@@joanneaugust6611I'm passionate about music, doesn't mean I'm ever going to be able to sing though. It's all about talent. Being passionate about it is a motivator to become talented. So stop being pedantic.
@@LiamLewyShepherd Talent is defined as naturally given, skill is worked for. That's why I argue against Billy Elliot being very talented. He develops SKILLS because of his passion. You may call me pedantic, I call this a normal debate. There's a total and complete lack of talent or early education which makes it impossible to become truly good at something. For everyone else, things can be learned. That includes people with an average or below average talent. Billy Elliot is not the story of a prodigy, it's the story of someone fighting for their passion. I'm not pedantic, this is an important distinction. Why? Because people see a six-year-old with great piano skills and think "oh, this raw talent just dropped on this kid". No. All skills are LEARNED. Talent just means being able to do that a little faster. But this overly romanticised worldview discredits the tons of work the "talented" people put in every day to stay ahead of the curve. The point is simple: Hard work and determination are much, much, much more important than natural talent. By the way: With a proper musical education during the early childhood, people usually don't actually become tone-deaf in the first place. That means a lack of talent is really a lack of education. Families that sing together don't really have children that can't sing. So you might never be able to do this because you're grown and missed your chances, but every goal can be worked towards. I simply and plainly detest the notion of a lack of talent being a hindrance or a lot of talent doing the work for you. No. You can learn whatever you want and you may need ages for it or a shorter while. And yes, at fourty-something the train for many things has passed. But at Billy's age? If he had a passion for ice hockey or playing the drums, he could have done the same.
@@joanneaugust6611 I'm so sorry. My own personal talent is procrastination, and as a result I can't be arsed to read all of that. So I'm just going to reply with.. "👍"
This was the 'audition' of Billy's life. The one that finally got his dad on his side. The real audition at the ballet academy was a piece of cake compared to this!
@@sebastianchicazapata4519 because it was 1980s working class Britain and he had the awareness that it would send the dad under and he was already totally thrown by the dancing, in the end we see Billy’s dad is accepting and Michael lives freely and openly - it makes sense to the time and it’s just funny
We need more movies like this again. Movies that TRULY shows how a person can change and accept things and concepts they never knew they's ever accept due to stubborness and upbringing.
How is it "underrated"? This film won countless awards including a BAFTA (Britain's Oscars) for best film and Jamie Bell won for best actor (the youngest Winner ever.) It also scored several Oscar nominations, and it was also turned into a hit Broadway musical.
The thing is, the father didn't know how good his son was, he thought he was just spinning around in a circle or ball dancing with boys. It doesn't take a dance expert to know what Billy did was incredible. Just a few seconds onto this dance he realises his son has a god given talent for moving. Not dancing. Just moving.
I got this movie because I told my parents to come home with a new dvd. I looked at the cover I was like what BS is this 😂 I’m glad this is how I found this movie
This is a beautiful scene, no words needed, just the music and Billy's dance. Some of the shots were referenced to past dancing movies such as Footloose and Flashdance (I'm pretty sure there's more, please comment them)
@@Pinkpanda73 if you liked this movie, you should watch " Les Choristes " it's a french movie who's kind of our equivalent of " Billy Elliot " mixed with " Dead poets society "
Hermosa película!!!! Lloré con el padre cuando rompió el piano, cuando rompe la huelga, cuando lo ve irse en ómnibus y cuando lo ve bailar en el final!!!!!
Hace 24 años de esta belleza de pelicula, como pasa el tiempo. Y después de 24 y muchos más recordaremos el gran salto de Billy y la cara de orgullo del padre. ❤❤
Film social à l’anglaise, drôle, émouvant, touchant, d’une justesse absolue et si bien tourné, jamais dans les clichés, ce film est une merveille absolue. Le cinéma anglais dans toute sa perfection. 👍👍👍👍👍 from 🐸
I love that scene, but I love the one at the end even more, when the father attends his son's first performance as a principal dancer in Swan Lake (the Matthew Bourne version).
My life was the opposite - my Dad was a printer and owner of a printing company. All I wanted to do was study science. My Dad thought this was unacceptable. Still, I went to university and got a science degree 😊
The dad is the real hero of the story. He sacrificed his reputation so that his son could have a future, even though he didn't even like his son's career choice.
Phenomenon Jamie Bell movie ever. One of my favorite movies of Jamie Bell's (like Rocketman for instance). Also, the Dancing with Dad is one of my favorite scene in that movie. Also, I would recommend the new Babylon movie with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie if you can upload it, along with Backdraft with William Baldwin and Kurt Russell, The Shining with Jack Nicholson, Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth, the first two Back to the Future movies with Michael J. Fox, Black Rain with Michael Douglas and Andy Garcia, Terry Gilliam's Brazil, and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Kevin Costner.
THE 'AWAKENING' SUCH SUCH A BRILLIANT FILM ... MY FATHER DID NOT TALK A LOT. HE DID WHEN HE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. SO THIS REMINDS ME OF HIM. I SAT WITH HIM AFTER MY MOTHER DIED AND MY BOYS HAD TO GET ALONG FOR A BIT. THEN, THEN HE TALKED! MY 'SILENT O'MILES' AS I NICKNAMED HIM!
Scene from Swan Lake, Op. 20, composed by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. The song is performed by the Russian State Symphony Orchestra under the direction of Dmitry Yablonsky. Edit: The term "swan-song" is unknown to the people who are trying to 'correct' you.
This music doesn't have a name, a few years ago it was called "Billy Elliot score by Stephen Warbeck" on RUclips, now you can find it as "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
@@jolie_julie5599 This music doesn't have a name, a few years ago it was called "Billy Elliot score by Stephen Warbeck" on RUclips, now you can find it as "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
😊I love it, when you have something inside you it has to live to be expressed I was put into jobs I hate I do them but I never be good at them cause I hate them I wanted to dance 😊😅 to move to explore to learn new languages to do psychology I was cut from dance to do management😂 I never enjoy my pay and my job😂😂 but I went dancing for free every day🎉😊I was happy as an 🐘
This movie was filmed in 1999/2000. Tom Holland must have been a toddler, while Jamie Bell is a few years older. But I too think Holland eventually played the part on stage
the point isn't for him to dance what is considered "well", it's simply to dance at all. the act of dancing itself is revolutionary and freeing for billy. he can always be taught, but the love and freedom he finds in dancing is what's vital. he was finally showing his father who he his and what he loves.
he had great form, just some rough edges, but he was in the heat of the moment, it was a moment of passion and freedom. as the teacher says, it isn't about how good you are, because thats what the ballet school teaches you, its about how you *move*
the point isn't for him to be a perfect dancer (after all his main goal in the second half is to go to ballet school), the point is that it's something he's passionate about, that he has been practicing in secret (even if he's not the best at it, those moves a random boy that has never done ballet can't do easily) and that he's talented at it. when his dad sees that he understands why billy could become a professional if he went to school
wow... im sorry billy. im sorry billys dad. im sorry everyone, im sorry we all had to see this. ill never get this two minutes back. the ending where billy yells stop and his dad keeps running is absolutely hilarious though.
It's like a desperate cry for his dad's recognition through dance. Desperate but full of hope at the same time. Beautifully danced
Do you know what the title of the song he's dancing to is?
And also incredible courage, laying it all on the line despite what his Dad’s said at every turn 😊
Some movies, no matter how many times I have watched them, will always make me cry. This is one of those movies
This film was vile garbage.
The same happens to me.
I love how Jackie realises just how talented of a dancer Billy really is in this moment, and eventually lets him follow his dream.
It's not about talent at all. It's about passion.
@@joanneaugust6611Well both come into play
@@joanneaugust6611I'm passionate about music, doesn't mean I'm ever going to be able to sing though. It's all about talent. Being passionate about it is a motivator to become talented. So stop being pedantic.
@@LiamLewyShepherd Talent is defined as naturally given, skill is worked for. That's why I argue against Billy Elliot being very talented. He develops SKILLS because of his passion. You may call me pedantic, I call this a normal debate.
There's a total and complete lack of talent or early education which makes it impossible to become truly good at something. For everyone else, things can be learned. That includes people with an average or below average talent.
Billy Elliot is not the story of a prodigy, it's the story of someone fighting for their passion.
I'm not pedantic, this is an important distinction. Why? Because people see a six-year-old with great piano skills and think "oh, this raw talent just dropped on this kid". No. All skills are LEARNED. Talent just means being able to do that a little faster. But this overly romanticised worldview discredits the tons of work the "talented" people put in every day to stay ahead of the curve.
The point is simple: Hard work and determination are much, much, much more important than natural talent.
By the way: With a proper musical education during the early childhood, people usually don't actually become tone-deaf in the first place. That means a lack of talent is really a lack of education. Families that sing together don't really have children that can't sing.
So you might never be able to do this because you're grown and missed your chances, but every goal can be worked towards.
I simply and plainly detest the notion of a lack of talent being a hindrance or a lot of talent doing the work for you. No. You can learn whatever you want and you may need ages for it or a shorter while. And yes, at fourty-something the train for many things has passed. But at Billy's age? If he had a passion for ice hockey or playing the drums, he could have done the same.
@@joanneaugust6611 I'm so sorry. My own personal talent is procrastination, and as a result I can't be arsed to read all of that. So I'm just going to reply with.. "👍"
This was the 'audition' of Billy's life. The one that finally got his dad on his side. The real audition at the ballet academy was a piece of cake compared to this!
Love this coment! Totally agree
Me tooo@@violetthemoonchild1950
Perfectly said ❤
Do you know what the title of the song he's dancing to is?
Wow! Great comment!
His dad was a simple but sensitive man, he could recognize beauty in the midst of ugliness and despair.
You said it very well.
You don’t say
I love how he has his moment in the boxing gym of all places.
0:50 His dad truly ‘sees’ his son for the first time- such a moving (and brave) scene
Michael taking the skirt off kills me everytime haha
And clapping later 😂😂😂😂 I love him!
It actually makes me feel so sad. Why did he have to do that? He was having fun, expressing himself, having joy with his beloved friend. 💔
@@sebastianchicazapata4519 because it was 1980s working class Britain and he had the awareness that it would send the dad under and he was already totally thrown by the dancing, in the end we see Billy’s dad is accepting and Michael lives freely and openly - it makes sense to the time and it’s just funny
And the round of applause at the end haha
Priceless look on his dad, he immediately knew how amazingly talented Billy was 🥲
😢❤❤❤❤❤❤
This and the "It's like electricity" scene are on the list of all time great cinema moments.
What about the scene with Jackie and Tony? That scene breaks me
We need more movies like this again. Movies that TRULY shows how a person can change and accept things and concepts they never knew they's ever accept due to stubborness and upbringing.
The retorts of his mind through the dancing is just awsome its brilliant. Old man couldn't help but know how good he was
can't hold my tear watching this scene every time
Underrated classic.
Underrated????
Agree
@@alixguy212You agree being dumb with him, nice.
How is it "underrated"? This film won countless awards including a BAFTA (Britain's Oscars) for best film and Jamie Bell won for best actor (the youngest Winner ever.) It also scored several Oscar nominations, and it was also turned into a hit Broadway musical.
It's not underrated. The Suicide Theory is underrated.
The thing is, the father didn't know how good his son was, he thought he was just spinning around in a circle or ball dancing with boys. It doesn't take a dance expert to know what Billy did was incredible. Just a few seconds onto this dance he realises his son has a god given talent for moving. Not dancing. Just moving.
Excellently put
I got this movie because I told my parents to come home with a new dvd. I looked at the cover I was like what BS is this 😂 I’m glad this is how I found this movie
This is a beautiful scene, no words needed, just the music and Billy's dance. Some of the shots were referenced to past dancing movies such as Footloose and Flashdance (I'm pretty sure there's more, please comment them)
@@Pinkpanda73 if you liked this movie, you should watch " Les Choristes " it's a french movie who's kind of our equivalent of " Billy Elliot " mixed with " Dead poets society "
Hermosa película!!!!
Lloré con el padre cuando rompió el piano, cuando rompe la huelga, cuando lo ve irse en ómnibus y cuando lo ve bailar en el final!!!!!
Es lo mismo para mí
Such a moving and deep piece of art this movie is!
Hace 24 años de esta belleza de pelicula, como pasa el tiempo. Y después de 24 y muchos más recordaremos el gran salto de Billy y la cara de orgullo del padre. ❤❤
Film social à l’anglaise, drôle, émouvant, touchant, d’une justesse absolue et si bien tourné, jamais dans les clichés, ce film est une merveille absolue. Le cinéma anglais dans toute sa perfection. 👍👍👍👍👍 from 🐸
One of my favorite movies ever! Loved every minute of it and have watched it over 15 times!😘
Billy inspires me to leap higher, dance faster, see farrer.
*further. ;)
See "farrer"??? There is no such word. It is see FARTHER.
@@jb6712 isn't it 'further' ? said the french one.
chills......
This is such an emotional movie.
I love that scene, but I love the one at the end even more, when the father attends his son's first performance as a principal dancer in Swan Lake (the Matthew Bourne version).
Love , love , love this movie.
Really amazing 👍🏻💕👍🏻
Such an artist.
Once in a while a really good film comes along and then nothing for years, and years.
My life was the opposite - my Dad was a printer and owner of a printing company. All I wanted to do was study science. My Dad thought this was unacceptable. Still, I went to university and got a science degree 😊
Good on you
Brilliant movie! 😃😃
I love Billy Elliott!
I JUST WANT TO DANCE AT THE BALLET 🤣
“All he wanted to do was dance; and that’s MY story!” 😭
Terrific Scene!!!
Now Father knows. And he knows what it means to know.
I love this movie so much...
Such a Musician.
This is a great movie
Dans un Ballet d'Opéra, il te faudra corriger tes élancés des bras avec souplesses et aussi travailler sur tes mollets. Magnifique.
The dad is the real hero of the story. He sacrificed his reputation so that his son could have a future, even though he didn't even like his son's career choice.
Such an Author.
Phenomenon Jamie Bell movie ever. One of my favorite movies of Jamie Bell's (like Rocketman for instance). Also, the Dancing with Dad is one of my favorite scene in that movie. Also, I would recommend the new Babylon movie with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie if you can upload it, along with Backdraft with William Baldwin and Kurt Russell, The Shining with Jack Nicholson, Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth, the first two Back to the Future movies with Michael J. Fox, Black Rain with Michael Douglas and Andy Garcia, Terry Gilliam's Brazil, and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Kevin Costner.
YEP
Jobathon: to name but a few 👌👌
Such a designer.
SUPERB!!!❤❤❤
I love bily so small
Brilliant.
Great movie!
THE 'AWAKENING' SUCH SUCH A BRILLIANT FILM ... MY FATHER DID NOT TALK A LOT. HE DID WHEN HE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. SO THIS REMINDS ME OF HIM. I SAT WITH HIM AFTER MY MOTHER DIED AND MY BOYS HAD TO GET ALONG FOR A BIT. THEN, THEN HE TALKED! MY 'SILENT O'MILES' AS I NICKNAMED HIM!
Que linda pelicula la tuve en dvd pero se me perdio ...😢😢
Du Pur Génie.
hermosisima pelicula!!! desde Venezuela!!
Do you know what the title of the song he's dancing to is?
Coco: There is no song, just music - learn the difference
Scene from Swan Lake, Op. 20, composed by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. The song is performed by the Russian State Symphony Orchestra under the direction of Dmitry Yablonsky.
Edit: The term "swan-song" is unknown to the people who are trying to 'correct' you.
its a "piece" not a "song"
@@ph03beuwu Have you ever heard of a "swan-song"? Look it up.
@@ph03beuwu Ever heard of a 'swan-song'? Look it up.
i still to this day want to know the name of the song he dances to, if anyone knows it please let me know it
Nysor: there is no song, just music - learn the difference
What music is playing?
It's an original score for the film, called, "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
Lindo filme 😍
Can someone tell me what this song is called please?
Chloe: There is no song ... just music - learn the difference
@@joline2730 oh shut up
Did this inspire rob writing that one scene of IASIP?
L'Opéra Garnier T'attends lorsque tu le décideras. Reviens Grands.
Everyone can impress their mums. But to impress your father, that's real achievement
Unless you are a daughter. I only had to walk into the room to impress my dad. My four older brothers had to try a little harder. 😆
What's the name of this Music?
Did you ever find out?
This music doesn't have a name, a few years ago it was called "Billy Elliot score by Stephen Warbeck" on RUclips, now you can find it as "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
@@jolie_julie5599 This music doesn't have a name, a few years ago it was called "Billy Elliot score by Stephen Warbeck" on RUclips, now you can find it as "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
Ayyy first here but excited!
Wow
天才
What's the song name?
And: There is no song, just music - learn the difference
Danser sur du ¨Tchaïkovsky" C'est du Pur Génie.
DO death on the Nile 1978 next
Does anyone know what song this is?
It's an original score written for the film, called, "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
Jolie: There is no song, just music - learn the difference
Great movie. Am selling the dvd
Chào bạn thân yêu nha 💓❤️💓 like 💓💓
before I really thought he is tom holland
😊I love it, when you have something inside you it has to live to be expressed I was put into jobs I hate I do them but I never be good at them cause I hate them I wanted to dance 😊😅 to move to explore to learn new languages to do psychology I was cut from dance to do management😂 I never enjoy my pay and my job😂😂 but I went dancing for free every day🎉😊I was happy as an 🐘
👍👍👍
the billy's father it's a scabs???
Dice Dios sé
But hang on, who is the guy in the tutu?
Michael, Billy's best friend
Some parents don't deserve their children.
😢😢😢😢😢😢
He was a great Dad!
James dean!
1:48 yag
😱😭😭 2:04
Лол я тут единственный русский
、、、、、あと100万足りなかった。、でもBillyのように、つらぬけば、人生は、間違いなく変わっていただろう…今は後悔してない、、。いつか、夢が実現出来たとしたら、私は貴方をしっかり抱きしめる。…つもり。☆彡…🎄、あなたの傷みは、、私の傷みなのです…微笑みは、私の支え。、、。覚えいますでしょうか…?、今は外は寒いですか…。カラスが鳴いてます…
I thought this was tom holland 💀
Tom Holland's first role actually was Billy Elliott, only on stage!
This movie was filmed in 1999/2000. Tom Holland must have been a toddler, while Jamie Bell is a few years older. But I too think Holland eventually played the part on stage
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Might wanted to have him dance better than that…. Just saying
the point isn't for him to dance what is considered "well", it's simply to dance at all. the act of dancing itself is revolutionary and freeing for billy. he can always be taught, but the love and freedom he finds in dancing is what's vital. he was finally showing his father who he his and what he loves.
@@lilybby as a 6 foot tall violinist I understand the sentiment. Still wish they had let him dance better at that moment
he had great form, just some rough edges, but he was in the heat of the moment, it was a moment of passion and freedom. as the teacher says, it isn't about how good you are, because thats what the ballet school teaches you, its about how you *move*
the point isn't for him to be a perfect dancer (after all his main goal in the second half is to go to ballet school), the point is that it's something he's passionate about, that he has been practicing in secret (even if he's not the best at it, those moves a random boy that has never done ballet can't do easily) and that he's talented at it. when his dad sees that he understands why billy could become a professional if he went to school
@@Darrius996 he was untrained/self-trained. Raw talent. But you can see the potential and the passion.
wow... im sorry billy. im sorry billys dad. im sorry everyone, im sorry we all had to see this. ill never get this two minutes back. the ending where billy yells stop and his dad keeps running is absolutely hilarious though.
???
First
Awful film.
You ain't got a heart.
Gross movie
Is this what Cleveland show is referencing when Cleveland “dances for his dad?”
what is the song called?
Swan Lake Suite, Op. 20a: I. Scene" by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.
what music?
It's an original score written for the film, called, "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
@@jtrain5615thanks!