Good And Evil In The BIBLE | Jordan Peterson
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- „I had a vision of the Bible" ... The struggle between good and evil. Jordan Peterson wonders if God is Evil? How much good does God give us? Are we fighting the evil within us, are we being punished? A very interesting motivational video about bible stories between good and evil
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How do you define good and evil? But in the life you live?
The story of Eden, God's garden.
God created Adam in His image and likeness, to be His son with the authority to rule the earth with God.
The two "trees" in the garden, the "tree" of life is speaking of God, Adam could "eat" from that tree as much as he want. The other "tree" was what God warned Adam about, the "tree" of knowledge of *good and evil,* the tree that would bring death, speaking of the exact opposite of the first "tree", satan, created not only to be a choice for Adam but also a challenge or opposition...
The other "tree" however deceived Adam, pretending to be good, when Adam believed the lie and chose to reject God's word (warning) he got separated from God (you can't eat from both trees), his spirit "died" (can not operate in the spirit realm anymore), got his mortal body (body of sin), lost his authority to rule (satan took that) and fallen into satan's bondage (satan now has a claim on him).
As descendants of Adam, we are all born in this fallen state, born into bondage, living in satan's nature (definition of sin) which lead to death...
In this fallen state, it is interesting to note that we can still choose good or we can choose evil but both are still "eating" from the wrong tree.
There is only one way to get delivered from satan's bondage, getting our spirit resurrected which in turn restore our relationship with our Creator, allowing Him to change us back into His image and likeness, living in His nature and that is through His manifestation in flesh (representing fallen Adam) but without sin, when this sinless "man" died, (the opposite of Adam who sinned and brought death into the world) he destroyed satan's claim on man. This restore our authority to rule over the deceiver, the opposer, "eating" from the "tree" of life again....
Evil is a voluntary Act of injury
@@amyedie8902 Very well said...
A game , an illusion....
It would be interesting to know how many choices the average human being makes Every 24 hours. Each choice that we make, beginning with whether to get out of bed, or sleep for another 10 minutes; Has a dramatic impact on our timeline as we walk through the day. So many choices seem to be Mundane. When I was young, I was always waiting for that one choice that would really impact my life in a spectacular way for good. Now I realize that it's the culmination of a lifetime of seemingly small and innocuous choices, that shape our personality and determine our character, and also determine what choices continue to be available to us, Or not.
You are a desperately needed Light; in a Dark World Sir. Carrion !
I believe that's from a joke you told. LOL
I cannot express my thoughts and feelings concerning the Responsibility that you have somehow managed to levitate onto your own shoulders. So: you are following your own advice, which is as common as flying monkeys.
the statue of Atlas comes to mind. May All that is Good and True; Keep You and Yours.
"Because I knew you could win." Amazing. Even when Jordan Peterson wasn't confident in his belief in God, God was confident in His belief in Jordan.
You are right You are right. Thanks for the reply
yep🙏
I see some validity to this in the same way you wouldn't do your kid'a homework for them. Sure, you could easily breeze through those low levels math. Addition? Subtraction? Easy peasy. For you, but not for the kid (yet). The kid needs to struggle through some of that learning process and figuring out how to process it on their own, to get the building blocks they need to understand life better and build on those skills to get to deeper mathematics like multiplication, calculus, etc
Similarly perhaps, while God could easily remove all obstacles from our lives, part of our process to growth, independence, and maturity involves 'suffering' or working and struggling through life processes. Learning how to communicate. Learning how to forgive, to be a good friend, to do right and not evil. If we don't learn these things, we severely cap our capacity to grow and build on them and become more capable people.
@@timothyn4699 God says…”work out your salvation”
@@truthfulpatriot9129 true, though that statement has many ppl wondering and trying to figure out exactly what it means. Aka there hasn't been a unified understanding of it
there's the idea of salvation by grace through faith, though faith without works is dead
and, even though there's a matter of working out your salvation, in what way are we to work? Is it just in growing as a person, or something else or more?
Not fully sure, but I believe some of it pertains to morality and keeping oneself pure/holy unto God. While we may mess up at times, God's grace helps in those moments, but we shouldn't be actively participating in or practicing sin. Some of it may also pertain to doing good deeds or helping those in need
I love this guy. He's in an epic battle with The Almighty God to understand the LOGOS of everything, and he's continuously getting his ass handed to him. Someday, when he's had enough, he will give up and admit, "God, you were right all along", repent of his pride, and begin a new life IN Christ. It will truly be a good day, and I'm praying for him✌
You are right How do you overcome the evil you find at a certain moment?
The Almighty chooses who He Will, when He Will, for whatever reasons He Will, to do His Will. Not yours.
Remember that Jesus healed people spiritually and physically. So: The religious leaders of that time: Who were waiting for, and looking for the Messiah, tortured and killed him.
because he was a carpenter from Nazareth, and had long hair. They were looking for someone super special, someone more like themselves.
your comment is wistful...
Some day we will uneat that apple
@@lightlayagajoie5739 That's an interesting thought. I've always thought about it like trying to put the genie back in the bottle, Or trying to close Pandora's Box. We will absolutely know at some point out of time.
Ahhh Jordan. I could listen to him discovering the love of God and Jesus all day. ❤️
Lol
Jesus did say hard things even for His own Disciples to Apprehend..But where there is a willingness first it is Acceptable even tho the substance is small..
You know what, the best way to Experience Christ is to have a close walk with Him ..It's not as complex as Ministers make out..Just a matter of getting real with Him .I see He has now given me More than just about All in His house... Paul said we're restricted by our own affections..I received it by Grace to share with as many as can receive it .
I admire and adore the way this very very clever and high achieving academic of high repute openly reveals to us his struggles with his humanity, temptation, frailty and mortality. His struggle with the Logos and meaning helps us all to come to grips with the same issues. God bless him. Thank you for this helpful work.
Thanks for the reply
Without his vulnerability it could be empty words however Jordan's chosen to truly enrich his soul and inadvertently inspire the proud, I hope!
Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a profit unto the nation's"
Thanks for the answer
I've been following Jordan for several years now and it has been so awesome to watch him grow and evolve in his faith. Many times, intellectual types manage to reason their way OUT of believing in God. Jordan has had such profound experiences that it has literally forced his hand to believe. Truly incredible to watch. The line, "because I knew you could win" is more profound than most people realize. That's how God views us. Even in our broken, angry, ugly often misguided ways...he still believes in us.
Jordan's grifter script has evolved, that's for sure.
You are right.
Yes...
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8
God made man to know and fellowship with him. We have rebelled against God like disobedient children. Parents continue to love their children in spite of the mistakes they make and the trouble they cause them.
That is what "grace" is all about in the Bible. God provided a remedy for our rebellion in Jesus Christ. For those who trust Jesus Christ as full restitutions for their sins and disobedience, our relationship with God is restored and we can truly call him "Abba" ("Father"). God knows that we can never be perfect. He alone is perfectly "holy". That is why he will receive us in Jesus Christ who fulfilled the moral law perfectly for us. Christians are "accepted in the beloved" because they have connected with Jesus Christ by faith. The Christian life is a life of JOY (knowing that you are forgiven) not of torment over our inability to live up to God's standard of perfection. "Sanctification" is a continuous process whereby Christians progressively purify their lives after they have believed by the POWER of the Holy Spirit who now indwells them.
Ephesians 1:5-7 "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;"
Ephesians 1:5-7
1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."
It seems that vision was prophetic. The rest of us can only imagine the enemies he has faced and battles he has won since this talk was given.
1 Corinthians 10:13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
I had a dream a few years ago that I was running through the court of the temple from Roman soldiers, I tripped and fell on my face. As I was trying to get back up I felt someone touch my shoulder. I turned to look, terrified it was a Roman about to run me through with a sword, but it was Jesus. He was reaching down to help me up and said "I'm here now".
@@bolihood indeed it was. What makes it more wonderful is that I had been studying eschatology, with the purpose of disproving preterism (aka: covenant eschatology). I prayed for God to give me guidance or reveal the truth to me and then I had that dream.
@@bolihood interesting. I don't know what that could mean for you, but to me the dream I had meant that preterism is the truth. The "end times" were during the Jewish/Roman war of 66-73AD that climaxed in the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70AD.
Thanks for the answer
Love when Jordan opens up like this! I always had a saying to myself about why we’re here and all this confusion about evil being brought into the world. I think it’s about free will and also like Jordan was saying it’s a test. But god is so holy and perfect that God says I’m going to put you through cruel, unrelenting, and crazy world. Because if you can’t choose me (God) at your worst. Then how are you going to choose me(God) at your best? Because that’s what satan’s flaw was, he loved himself, his ego, his pride. And choose to stop being an angel and decided to become his own god.
I’m a 63 year old man from the uk . Because of Jordan I have just started understanding and learning about myself long way to go . But there’s now a hunger to learn and grow . Quiet amazing ! Thank you
Agree, once we come to know and experience the Father and the Son, our entire world turns upside down. 🤭 Btw, you're not an old man at 63.. Blessings!
Jordan Maxwell
THIS MAN IS A REAL GIFT ! THANK GOD FOR HIM !
Thank you for your message
Praise God.
"Because I knew you could win."💖
Following God's dictates is good. Giving in to Satan's temptations is evil.
Very correctly said
Thanks for the reply
We sometimes find evil in ourselves ... We must offer goodness. May God protect you
Thanks for the reply...
I love the thought, of being ultimately tested. Though I’m somewhat a procrastinator, to be perfect, and not in a general sense., But to be a perfect me, pleasing to Father, and then therefor existence.. I strongly need that.
That dream of Jordan Peterson was powerful man, wow! I had a similar one when I was little actually. So I can relate
Querido Jordan tus pensamientos son un regalo para l humanidad! Bendiciones y saludos cariñosos a la familia!
Thanks for the reply. How do you overcome the evil you find at a certain moment?
I so happy this man believes in God because of his position in the world.
Jordan you left me speechless again. I absolutely love this. ✝️❤️🥰
Thanks for the answer
God will never give you more than you can handle.
“Because I knew you’d win”
I shouted that out before Jordan said it.
Then wept when he did say it.
the deep things of GOD! my life changed the moment I came to terms with the fact that GOD didn't destroy satan; he ALLOWS him to be the prince of the power of the air. THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD. realizing and accepting that fact; is half the battle.
Blessed are those who believed and have not seen.
"I don't know what to make of that...." I appreciate the man's honesty. He is so erudite and eloquent - yet he refuses to baffle us with bullshit. I never used that term before - never. But it's out there now - and I'm not retracting it.
I was looking for an earlier video where Dr. Peterson tells of his vision - wanted to share it with a friend. Of course, my assigned demon is making it hard for me to find that particular video.
I used to call him my, "resident demon" - but that was a poor choice of words. He doesn't possess me, but he is a familiar companion that I have allowed to influence me for too long.
I'll stop here, but let me say that when I first heard this vision and God's answer, it was a revelation for me. Thanks for sharing this version.
Prior to our coming to earth life, I think God warned us all. He said that earth would be very hard, unfair, cruel, sad and sometimes barbaric. He asked us all individually if we thought we wanted to participate in this. And, knowing the challenges and the eventual rewards, everyone of us said, yes, I want to go... I want the chance to learn , to understand, to achieve, to progress and to become.
Love, compassion, forgiveness are good.Everything that makes a full life possible for everyone is. Cruelty, oppression, selfishness, indifference to people's suffering, arrogance, greed are evil
You are very right ... Thank you for this answer
There’s a good example of this here in 2 Corinthians 12:1-10 Paul’s got some amazing insight into what Mr Peterson’s talking about. Who is Paul? What’s his story? Hmmm look it up :-)
Please God take us all away from Satan forever and bring us to your glorious heaven where we can feel your endless love forever.
Thanku Man U are the realist the way you broke it down to us
God is all about love and forgiveness, and maybe also loyalty. The hardest thing to forgive your children for is lack of loyalty.
"Lies and Deception Destroy People's Lives...
And When They Start Telling The Truth and Acting It Out ---
Things Get A Lot Better."
Is this what it’s like to “wrestle with God?” Jordan has wrestled with these ideas for a while, and I pray he finds what he needs.
God likes overcomers. Hard to do without something to overcome. The wind makers the tree stronger.
Das Übermensch 🤗🥰
Thank you for growing into a hero
I really appreciate what your channel does in showing Professor Jordan Peterson's great understanding of Christianity. I hope in the future you will check out more Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ 🙏❤️. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
Thank you very much for this impressive answer ...
@Curiouser and Curiouser Ok AND 😂?
Of making many books there is no end...
@@davemalone4421 Ok AND?
@Curiouser and Curiouser You understood nothing yet. Pride is evil and the reason for many bloody actions
I would like to be more bold in my faith. I'm also aware that it's harder to come down from the mountains of self-righteousness than rise from your own hell.
Amen
At 1st I did not define good and evil. I accepted the definition of The Bible. But as I grew and came into contact with evil, I recognized it by seeing the effects of certain deeds, on people's lives. So the product determines the seed. When we see a maple tree, we know the seed. So then I began to look for the signs of the seed. I didn't have look very hard. but as I got older and educated, it became difficult to spot. and Evil would make itself home in me. It's difficult to eradicate from one's life. it has so many faces. and often I allowed a little Evil in for something that I thought I had to have. Now it just shows up unannounced. I think it lives in my Garage, and just comes into the house occasionally for entertainment. I'm kidding, kind of. I believe that the physical realm and the spirit realm co-exist and that a part of us is always in the spirit realm. I think it's our mind. If we don't stay out of the shadows, we can take a hit. No one is exempt.
It's seriously like the most complicated real time video game ever. And the Stakes are people's lives. including your own.
Thank you very much for this message
I just realized that I focused most of my time in my post on evil.
GOOD takes so much more effort, but when you work hard at doing the right thing, for the right reason, for a long time, you build something magnificent. You can't see it, but you know it exists, because you put your heart and mind into it for years. The Power of GOOD is unequaled. I believe that the most powerful weapons on earth are forgiveness, Truth, and Mercy, or love. Not cliche love, sacrificial love. And The Truth is simply paramount to our existence. Without the truth, we couldn't even disagree. how boring. There is no reason to even communicate if there is no standard to oppose or defend. We would still be cavemen. And Mercy or love is self explanatory. Forgiveness is awesome. I Don't believe any of us are actually capable of it but that's actually not the point. As we strive to forgive we learn about the creator, and we become self reflective. I think because we are forced to admit to ourself that we are incapable of complete forgiveness. I'm not talking about your children. we all forgive them even when we shouldn't. So that's one of the things you can learn about the Highest. He wants to forgive us, for we are His Chidren. I believe that we are successful at forgiveness when we reach a point where we actually want to forgive. I seriously doubt that we're actually capable of doing it except for our own children. This is turning into a book. At least you don't ask complex questions. I'm too tired to integrate the two and answer properly. sorry.
The good news is I will continue to consider it until I make peace with the question.
I don’t agree with all of Homie’s political believes but I gotta say I’m a recovering heroin addict and everything he says it’s pretty spot on boys you have to have faith you can’t do this alone doesn’t have to be God it doesn’t have to be Jesus you have your own personal relationship with your higher power and there’s so much man more to this earth there’s so much we’re missing right now and it’s so important to have someone like him speak to a young man
I believe that you are right that there is a testing, though God doesn't test. God gave us Jesus as a covering of our nakedness, our sinning nature.
Except Jesus never says that does he?
For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is through our Lord Jesus Christ
“I can’t put a lever underneath that argument…that’s what I am trying to do. I’m trying to break it.” (Not a perfect quote) @7:30. Genius! Now I understand what he means by beliefs are like tectonic plates to stand on. Such wisdom. I just want to dig into the Word deeper.
The trials, test, hardships and sufferings are trying to get you to denounce God. IF you don’t- you are faithful. Just like Job. Job prayed to, plead with, argued, begged, cried, and questioned, God, but he did not denounce God. He said, “ Your will, not mine.”
God was in control he knew that man kink had to go through this pain to understand good and evil
They ate the fruit of the tree of science of good and evil, it wasn’t an apple tree, and they sinned because they desired the same thing Satan did, to become like God. Death described in the scriptures according to how God thinks is not merely the physical death, however, the death God is addressing with Eve when instructing to not eat from the specific tree is the death that would occur between “them, Adam and Eve” in relation to God and their relationship (for lack of better word because this relationship packs a lot of weight in it and is much different than we think it is) through spiritual separation. And that’s exactly what happens, they ate the fruit and became separated from God. So in Genesis 3:22 -23. the scriptures explain why He kicked them out of the garden… it was so they would not eat from the tree of life and become eternally separated from God in Sin. In a nutshell this is the surface of what happened because there’s a lot more packed in these initial chapters.
ITS ALL ABOUT HOW WE REACT TO THE SITUATION HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER WHAT DOESNT KILL US MAKES US STRONGER
Because He loves us He gives us choice… That’s real love, freedom to decide if you’ll obey Him and choose Him.
If god is omniscient, no one has free will
Perhaps he protected us when he set the tree of life out of our reach. Can you imagine the horror of having these life draining struggles of the soul enduring for eternity? That sounds more like hell than heaven. And has anybody noticed that God never beat them over the head by telling them of the future horrors they opened up for their offspring? That is love in it's purest form I believe .
The last thing that you said describes what God wants. He wants you to know the power of good over evil. Most people go straight to the evil without thinking of the consequences. These people are snakes, never thinking of others and always thinking they can get away with evil as they defend hell.
Rather than underlining it why not meat it with another word, "consept" that would solve said puzzle. Meat them in the middle rather than putting to an to together.
Sin is missing the mark and evil is the absence of the good
He always gives us everything that we can accomplish he knows everything otherwise he would not give it to us!
If you live by his presence with him you can conquer the world be in his peace and everything will be given to you he wants what is the best for his children !
Is love can't be mesured there no mesure for his love !
Blessed are those that have true faith.🙏 They tried to stop us speaking ( masks) they tried to stop us hearing ( churches closed) And they tried to stop us feeling ( social distancing) so thank you believers as now we can do those things. And of course our father God .🙏 Amen.
By eating the fruit and disobeying God so now he can't except you until you ask for forgiveness showing obedience just by you having faith that God sent his only Son to die for our sins that separated us from God because of evil. The Holy Spirit speaks directly to God for us once you're baptized.
You cannot have good without evil in the same sense you cannot have day without night or negative without positive . It's not to say that you have to keep living in the dark but to learn how to rise above and appreciate the dark for making you that much stronger. These two forces are what make the miracle of life we are stronger together then apart in the same sense as our political system .
I hear that sentiment a lot. I would like to propose that you cannot have evil without good because evil is a deviation from what is good. However, good can exist without evil, and that happens when perfection is achieved, which is what heaven is; all evil has been removed and only good remains.
@@lowercasepeople49 perfection in the sense of acceptance of imperfection, the journey not the destination. 🤔😂
@@lowercasepeople49 good cannot exist without evil it's like a marriage. You cannot create without the mother and the father . The miracle is a blend of good and evil . Team work makes the dream work 😂
Evil is the absence of good as darkness is the absence of light. Evil cannot exist in the presence of good as darkness cannot exist in the presence of light. Everything God created He declared good. He loves His creation enough to give it freedom to choose good or to reject it. That is the creation narrative in our scripture.
@@vincentcoppola9832 if god created everything then he created evil and at some point the evil can be good if you use it right . It's like how do you make violence good , well you use violence to protect and now it is good . Darkness is a necessary to life and everything is good it just depends on how you incorporate it. The same sense order can become rigid and break . Life is a balance too keep balance is to learn how to use evil and good for the greater good . Maybe this is what sacrifice is
I like the vision One word comes to mind purpose
Perfect!
still Astounds me that people think that Satan is an external agent, a being. other than ourselves
This was my exact understanding of reality. A mechanic builds a race engine and says it's amazing and unbreakable. A listener says give me the keys to the car and il test to see if your claim is true. Well do you give over the keys or not? We're getting ragged on low oil at 9500rpm, but we're still here - Glory to God Almighty 🙌
It's showing the individual fight of god verus the devil. It's your duty to always keep Jesus in your heart and soul. We are the holy seat of God on earth. If even one negative thought pushes Him a little more out of his seat. He will not share his seat tells us. We have to remove all evil and negativity in all things including thoughts. Like I believe we were taught a thought is just as bad as doing. So with even the smallest sinful thought you give the thrown seat to the devil fully for that second cause if there is any negativity in there. The lord will be no where around it. Leaving yourself open.. As with you and everyone God Bless! Luke - the light or to enlighten.
Free will does not bring you through the flaming sword to the Tree of Life. The flaming sword keeps you from the way. You can't see The Tree of Life!
Only when God makes you alive can you see.
Praise Jesus,
Michael Idarecis
You are right. Amen
Ask Christians who know their stuff the answers to these questions like you would ask any expert in a given subject, then if the various answers don't satisfy then speculate. It's about obedience to God, like a computer is obedient to its electricity supply. Things work when you are obedient, they don't when you're not. That's the lesson. It is deeper than any of us ultimately understand but that's one aspect.
I had a similar experience sir. Thank you for sharing.
Free will would not exist if we could not choose.
God didn’t want us to live through eternity in sin. So he protected mankind from eating of the tree of life.
I've noticed this as well. 51 so far.
If a psychologist tells you he had a vision, he's the one who needs a psychologist.
God makes nothing evil. Even the Angles have free will. We all can change for good or bad.
To the question why put a flaming sword in front of the entrance of the garden of Eden to prevent us from eating of the tree of Life; because had we eaten from the tree of life then we would be forever stuck in our sinful nature. Yet now through the resurrection of Christ, and if we chose to accept his gift and offer to have him take our place for our punishment and God's judgement, in exchange we receive Christ righteousness and blessings and are saved from hell; we will be finally able to eat from the tree of Life that is in heaven. The Bible talks about this especially in Revelations 22
"Because I knew you could win" is not the biblical narrative. It is that He sent His Son to win for us - because we cannot win. Everything between Genesis and Christ's passion attest to that.
This is a life of tribulation...without resistance a wing would never fly. We are challenged in order that we may hone control of the power of our individual human will...and learn to use it wisely.
(BG 18.66): Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction. Do not fear
Good and Evil have rules. The good of one is often the evil of another, and vice versa.
You're very right ... Thanks for the reply
God said to Himself let Us make man in Our image and in Our likeness, it is not until they eat the fruit God says to Himself, now they are like Us knowing good from evil.
I'm operating on the edge of my understanding. Wow enough said.
Thanks for the answer
Aren’t we all🤔just not near as intelligent as Peters.
You believe. Test is OK & Testing Isn't good to many times. Do it all straight away with the thought that you know. Remember when your having fun someone is not. Truth is the way. Thank you Jordan. Good man.
No value without choice stood out to me… ultimate free choice…the angels in heaven have to have free choice as well because the devil as an angel chose to go against God and was cast out… so even Jesus was tempted but He overcame that temptation…it’s a question I’d like to ask one day in Heaven….
Satan was the chief angel. He was the chore director. And he rebelled, and took one third of the angels with him. When he tempted Eve, in the garden, he was NOT a snake. He was the most beautiful creature,ever created. After the temptation of Eve and Adam, God cursed satan, to the form of a serpent. Maybe, if people would study the Bible a little, it wouldn’t be so confusing.
Satan is the author of every lie. The truth doesn't need one.
You are right How do you overcome the evil you find at a certain moment?
@@bpmotivation8926 if you stay in the moment, it might not be there in the next moment. If it keeps showing up, use it. I am an artist and I've always been fascinated with the artist man who created the Julian easel. He was in a Jewish concentration camp and used his time there to construct in his mind the perfect easel. When he got out he created it from his mind. It's design has never been altered and it's the best easel ever created. How about them Jonathan apples! As an artist, I'm interested in the morphed and intricate shadows thrown by objects. As in Jung's Shadow side, the evil within us can be harnessed like a pair of oxen to power our light side. When there's a cool shadow on the wall in my house, I paint it there on the wall so that when it isn't lit, it's still there. The intricate woodwork of the back of a chair, the loft ladder, the arch of a doorway slung long.. When a toddler discovers their shadow, they are sometimes afraid of it or try to get away from it. I teach art to very young children. Out of the scribbling stage, they are egocentric and only draw a figure of themselves for a while. Eventually they begin to draw other people in their compositions. I congratulated a child's mother when her three-year-old drew two people in her composition for the first time. I asked the child who the second figure was, assuming it was her mother. The child was disappointed in me and said in an obvious tone, "That's my shadow."
@@amyedie8902 Very interesting story ... Thank you for sharing it
I prayed as did many others for the day Jordan would meet Jesus. To see it coming true brings joy to my heart. Now more than ever he needs our prayers
Makes so much sense this way
Duality is the nature of the earthbound human, the difficulty lies within the balance of the beam of truth..when it strikes you will you Waken?? Peeling away the unknowing is healing..all conditions youve been through ..they are all experiences ,, all cups, with lessons,,,,, .realizing the consciousness between the two energy fields is a unified choice.... that vast Kaleidescape of energetic frequency that we each may experience...and ultimately chose....
Good and evil. .What's the feed back facility s condition ?
Snake and apple was the free choice god gave us, if Adam and Eve had no choice god would be a dictator. God gave us a choice not to follow him and if so here we are.
God gave us the possibility of Satan, in that possibility Satan is God's test for us. To show our capabilities. To show the truth of God's incredible, jaw dropping majesty. That's something he made turn so wretched and defiled, can raise up from the ashes and take new light by his side. It's about our relationship with God that he can show the best he has for us, in us. That's why the Bible/Torah basically are asking you, in less words, to completely give it all up to God. The majesty comes from him, nowhere else but him. Something so incredible should be shown for all to behold; not kept under a curtain. This is why the things we do matter greatly on the existential scale. Theoretically speaking after the crucifixion we are all on borrowed time, it was bought for us to have. We are so sensitive, perhaps that's why we are still here. This is the softest reality check we'll ever get; that this is easy and the really hard stuff is after here.
Peterson is not incorrect to use sin as a starting point for thinking about these things. C.S. Lewis once penned, “..human beings, all over the earth, have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain way, and cannot really get rid of it. Secondly, that they do not in fact behave that way. They know the Law of Nature; they break it. These facts are the foundation of all clear thinking about ourselves and the universe we live in.”
However, I want to caution the reader to recognize what this really entails. Peterson is a smart man, and sometimes gives good insight, however a lot of the questions that were posed here are answered within scripture. It is important to listen to sound teaching from people, but wise also to compare what people say to Scripture. I constantly scrutinize my pastor 🙃 privately in my mind of course.
The apostles Paul and Peter repeatedly speak of the benefits of suffering for doing good. In Romans 5 after making an extensive argument for being justified by faith in Christ (not our works) Paul says that “we boast in the hope and glory of God. Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
Would we be better without suffering and sin? YES, certainly! God created the world sinless and said that it was GOOD. Are we to glory in our shame, or the fact that we are wicked? By no means! It does no good to embrace our wickedness as if it were some sort of good thing that God created; He didn’t! But we are encouraged to take heart and hold fast in our suffering, because it produces perseverance, Godly character and hope!
I would encourage everyone to be a student of the Bible and others who have been historically accepted by the Church as a whole; C.S. Lewis is fantastic with these questions. Saint Augustine is harder to read but also delves into difficult questions. And at the end of the day and before studying, ask God for guidance.
Check out “Fighting for the Faith” on RUclips!
Adam and Eve became also because the infinite is terrifying to know how little you know about it.
The finite trying to understand the infinite and creation to the creator
You're right ... Thanks for the reply Nice to say
Another problem is that evil isn't a force or a thing it's a person it only exists within persons and one in particular
You can know the answer to everyting but it's not about us. Though we are a crucial part of the picture the picture is much bigger than us. Keep searching but patienly wait until He opens your eyes.
To have knowledge u need to seek...there's a war going on between the truth and the lie..When u find the truth...welcome to the real world...
There is “to know” and “ to know”
to know of something and
to know by the experience
A&E knew “of wrong” then they disobeyed
and now the knew by the experience.
A&E stopped trusting what they “knew of(what they had experienced) and now their birthright was broken.
100% Free will a choice by all of us, and since then the Creator has perused the creation, not violating our Free Will.
The question is does the creation love the creator? If so then….
Hi Dr. Peterson, Some ideas drawn from the bible, if taken literally, are really problematic too (i.e., snakes, trees). Apart from that, why would you believe it is not a good idea to share your visions? I had an enlightenment a few years ago which finally settled my mind so that I could finally live happily. I began to speak of this to my mother and immediately, she stops me, and says, "You're not supposed to talk about details like that!" But, why not? ~Fey.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7 KJV
That was prior to influence of Zoroastrianism dualism during the diaspora
Peterson looks like he is still having the vision in the title screen.
Thank you 😊❤🙏
This is the conflict that all Christian’s have to battle God’s view with satan’s world view always fighting for your soul.
Where was this talk? Was it on his recent tour?
When Adam and Eve disobeyed God , eating of the tree of knowledge they became conscious , they could realize right from wrong , so they had fear and hid themselves. Before conscience, we would not understand very much at all. We would be like a lambs.
My opinion is that they ate from the tree of life and once they were tempted to eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil they no longer deserved to eat from the tree of life and were excommunicated and understood that because God dictated that they would die, obviously not immediately but their walks with God in the cool of the day and participating with all creation will never be the same
What I wonder is how did satan even sin if he was an angel. Why was sin even created to be an option. How come our life is played with in this simulation. We all would choose God if sin didn’t exist? These are my questions had them for years