Ngl Tyus Jones is a great addition to the Suns. They desperately needed a point guard, and he’s really good at facilitating the ball. Plus they literally got him for pennies
@@rongiefaustino8867why not though? this signing alone will fix their biggest problem. Jones led the league in assist to turnover ratio with 7/1 on the Wizards😭. Imagine what he can do with the Suns. Suns biggest problems were 4th quarter consistency and turnovers. Point guards can really help this, and now Booker should go back to shooting guard where he can shine.
@@GorgeousRock having a capable point guard is a bare minimum. Just because they got Tyus fn Jones doesn’t mean they’re better than the competition. The Suns are still not among the best teams in the west.
Beal needs to be on the second team. A good defense starter will help the starters. Their shortcomings is a distributor, kd and booker are isolation players.
Suns are the only team in NBA history that addresses their greatest flaw from last year and still are being questioned about if they actually improved. Its fine, everyone can sleep on em. Will make their successes all the sweater.
They will be fine in the regular season. I could honestly see them contending for a top four seed if things break right for them, but this roster isnt built for the playoffs.
People blame the Beal trade but forget they got him for Chris Paul, someone who couldn’t even play anyway. It was an upgrade. The real issue was the KD trade which nuked their wings.
Chris Paul was better. They both have injury issues, so if I had to pick one I'd absolutely pick Chris Paul. Beal waited too long to leave the Wizards, he's fallen off now.
CP3's deal ended this year. If they kept him they could have actually signed someone else or traded CP3 for someone good, but they traded CP3 and all the rest of their draft assets to get Beal. The opportunity cost of trading for Bill is why the Suns will achieve nothing. If they didn't trade for Beal they could at least trade for a solid 3&D guy
Basically gave up EIGHT unprotected firsts, 1 protected first, 3 swaps, multiple 2nds and Cam Johnson if you look at final haul - don’t get me wrong KD is elite but that’s crazy for dude in his mid 30s, and the Suns did this after losing in the playoffs to Mavs and year prior to Bucks in finals who are still solid teams.
@@vlada He's only ever requested a trade from the Nets because they were a dumpster fire for multiple reasons. The current owner he has is trying to do whatever it takes to get the Suns a championship. So his history and character says it's very likely he'll stay.
Beal trade was the biggest issue. If they had traded CP3 for draft assets or a cheap player, or let him leave when his contract ended, they'd have had money on the books to help sure up that defense/roster, or at least have some flexibility. Beal just doesnt fit and costs too much money, while also having that no trade clause in his contract so he has to agree to any trade, meaning he cant be moved. KD and Book at least can be traded if need be and would've allowed them to blow it up if the money from trading CP somewhere else or letting him walk, didn't work out well enough. They had Book and KD, would've had Nurkic, and worked from there, but paying Beal 50 million is just far too much when you already knew KD and Book were on the roster with their contracts
Do you know how salary cap works? Even if you wiped off Beal salary they would be already over the cap and wouldn't be able to sign anyone (they would have small exceptions)
I agree on mostly everything except pressure, everyone is counting them out so if they do fail again nobody would be surprised. Also KD's legacy is pretty much set in stone at this point
Definitely, honestly I felt like they made alot of mistakes during Book’s tenure. I mean it’s wild they never got a long term solution in the backcourt with him.
Im really tired of this KD getting injured narrative. Bruh, after coming back from the Achilles, people fell on his damn knees two years in a row and he had a freak accident due to a wet floor when he joined the suns. He hasnt had durability issues. He has had mishaps
Suns need to blow it up, trade booger , kd , and put a gun on Beal head so he can waive his no trade clause and go after cpoper Flagg . 100 % this Suns squad will win no more than one playoff game
Also, regarding defense. It's worthy of mentioning that the Nuggets in 2023 had no big name defenders on their team, yet they defended well enough to win. Just because a team has a roster that isnt well known for defense, doesnt mean they wont play defense at all.
I never thought this would work because they've combined three players that all demand the ball & do alot of one on one play just not good for team ball
I think that it's defense that kills Phoenix. It's not that they don't have talented defenders, it's that the effort felt very lackluster on that end last year. You look at teams like Boston and their defense is good because not only do they have talent, but they also try hard on that end. Even guys like Pritchard who are not great defenders put in a lot of effort on that end and try to get steals, jump lanes, be a nuisance and fight for rebounds. Similarly, both JT and JB work hard on the defensive end, which sets the right tone for the rest of the team. It's hard for everyone to buy-in when the best players are relying on the roleplayers to do all the defending...which is sometimes how it felt watching the Suns play.
Hey Cone, I'd like to see your take on each of the teams with players in the Olympics and how you think the Olympic run will alter their trajectory. Example, KD might remember what winning feels like, Tatum/Brown may have an axe to grind and all that good good.
Nurkic played only around 50+ games in his last 2 seasons in Portland because they literally were tanking and had to sit their vets to lose games, so him playing 70+ games isn't that much of a surprise as he was not actually injured a lot in those 2 seasons. you need to look into context rather than raw data. him playing around the 70 games mark should still be possible next year.
The Suns trading for Beal might’ve been their biggest mistake. Given the next to nothing Boston gave up, they could’ve traded much less and gotten Jrue Holiday instead who would’ve given them the playmaking and defence they were otherwise missing. With the extra remaining assets, they easily could’ve made more moves for some solid defensive role players. They easily could’ve been top contenders had that happened but it’s too bad. Jrue has somehow been underrated his entire career when he’s proven time and again that he can be that final missing piece on a championship contender as long as they have at least two solid scorers with him which the Suns had.
Getting Bradley “over rated over priced” Beal doomed this team last year. Beal is a con artist. He was always a second option on a horrible wizards team 5 years ago and never ever deserving of his max contract. NO ONE wants him on their roaster especially with his stupid no trade clause. The NBA should eliminate Wizards, Hornets, Clippers and Blazers. They are watering down the ENTIRE NBA
1) KD is NOT injury prone. In the 2022 and 2023 seasons Bruce Brown and Jimmy Butler ran/fell into his leg each season respectively. He's not like Kawhi where his body just breaks down on him. 2) The Suns ended their season at 13th defensively despite the shortcomings of the roster. The difference between Frank and Budenholzer is that Frank is garbage at offense, while Bud can (and does) coach both at a high level.
Perfect this video perfectly encbapsulates the modern RUclips sports take video Start with a take...A fairly innocuous take...The one that's been around for months or maybe even en years Add three maybe four points of evidence Then let the repeating begin Take that three minutes of content and repeat it three more times using different words and different sentence form And there you go 。。。your three minute video is now a thirteen minute RUclips masterpiece
Once again 49 wins while going through what they went through is not a “massive disappointment” they win 50+ games if all 3 play 65+ games & they simply lost to a better team in Minnesota and they acquired the necessary pieces in the offseason
The suns can be better if Bradley Beal transitions to more of a defensive role. I’m not saying he should be a 3 and d player but he must prioritize defense then shot creation for that starting line up to work. If that happens suns are a top 5 team.
If the Suns start bad, they will trade KD in the deadline. If they do okay, they will keep this team together, but we all know KD is about a month of subpar playing by his teammates from asking for another trade probably to Dallas or Boston or something crazy like that
Unfortunately they sold their soul for an aging/one dimensional beal. They should have retooled the supporting cast knowing they have two elite offensive players on all 3 levels.
Notice how KD gets swept and nobody says a word. Imagine if that was Tatum!! Omgggg 😂 like I always said. KD and Booker are high volume jump shooters who provide nothing else. That’s why they’re always getting smacked around.
Everyone blamed a former #1 pick for everything that went wrong. Now we had a much talented team and we blame a point guard situation. When you assemble a big 3 someone has to sacrifice their game. Look at Bosh/Love. Unfortunately you also take the blame since you ain’t putting up previous numbers. Team lacked leadership, culture and brotherhood.
unsubbed bruh. didnt know your another rusty buckets lmfao. mavs didnt even make the playoffs in 2022 but yall have these hot takes but phoenix. insane. chemsitry is a thing
Should the Suns get bitten by the healthy bug, look out. My sleeper pick to come out of the West. If they are healthy, I don't see a better team. Book, KD and Beal are gonna be tough
@@apexrootsthey made the sixth seed with LITERALLY no point guard. And they still played amazing. Imagine what they are all going to do at there natural positions.
@@Unlimited-D-Works Lmao a team with KD, Booker and Beal was only good for a sixth seed? And then got swept by the wolves in the playoffs in the first round? Sheeeesh suns' expectations and standards are pretty low that ya'll set for em. 😂
wrong. bol bol mvp season incoming
How could I forget
Damn right!
Might be stretching it, Budd, but I do see him having a better season this year for sure.
@@jameslucas4173 casual he’s bouta average 57, 28, 17, 11, and 6 on 84, 76, 100 splits
Big bol neva the little one
Ngl Tyus Jones is a great addition to the Suns. They desperately needed a point guard, and he’s really good at facilitating the ball. Plus they literally got him for pennies
300 million pennies
Monte morris 2
Not exactly a needle mover
@@rongiefaustino8867why not though? this signing alone will fix their biggest problem. Jones led the league in assist to turnover ratio with 7/1 on the Wizards😭. Imagine what he can do with the Suns. Suns biggest problems were 4th quarter consistency and turnovers. Point guards can really help this, and now Booker should go back to shooting guard where he can shine.
@@GorgeousRock having a capable point guard is a bare minimum. Just because they got Tyus fn Jones doesn’t mean they’re better than the competition. The Suns are still not among the best teams in the west.
I see cone growing a little beard
A thin wispy Fu manchu mustache and goatie.
@@StevenEatsAloneno it doesn't. It means you were born in wrong body. One snipsnip and you're beard problemare solved. You're welcome.
Beal needs to be on the second team. A good defense starter will help the starters. Their shortcomings is a distributor, kd and booker are isolation players.
Move Brad to the bench and start Tyus Jones at point and Book at the 2 where he belongs.
Suns are the only team in NBA history that addresses their greatest flaw from last year and still are being questioned about if they actually improved.
Its fine, everyone can sleep on em. Will make their successes all the sweater.
I want people to sleep on them and leave them the hell alone for the season. That way they can just focus on getting it done.
Sun's are a sleeper in the West. I'm sure they will be in the top 6 seed in the West. Hoping my Lakers get there too
Sweeter*
Not good enough for a deep playoff run. Terrible 2K way roster construction. Like a 7 year old was GM 😂
The suns are better when they have lower expectations (from a suns fan)
They will be fine in the regular season. I could honestly see them contending for a top four seed if things break right for them, but this roster isnt built for the playoffs.
People blame the Beal trade but forget they got him for Chris Paul, someone who couldn’t even play anyway. It was an upgrade. The real issue was the KD trade which nuked their wings.
Chris Paul was better. They both have injury issues, so if I had to pick one I'd absolutely pick Chris Paul. Beal waited too long to leave the Wizards, he's fallen off now.
@@Gaspiracy CP3 doesnt have anything left, he couldnt even play come playoff time anymore and dissappeared in the finals appearance.
CP3's deal ended this year. If they kept him they could have actually signed someone else or traded CP3 for someone good, but they traded CP3 and all the rest of their draft assets to get Beal. The opportunity cost of trading for Bill is why the Suns will achieve nothing. If they didn't trade for Beal they could at least trade for a solid 3&D guy
They should have known that Beal was the worst possible fit with Durant and Booker. And it is also one of the worst contracts of all time...
Basically gave up EIGHT unprotected firsts, 1 protected first, 3 swaps, multiple 2nds and Cam Johnson if you look at final haul - don’t get me wrong KD is elite but that’s crazy for dude in his mid 30s, and the Suns did this after losing in the playoffs to Mavs and year prior to Bucks in finals who are still solid teams.
I can't stop thinking about Ant rocking back and forth, arms crossed, thrusting his waist forward 🤣🤣🤣
crotch chop
Yeah ok whatever floats your boat champ
Love your videos
Thank you for watching them!
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Will Beal be cool coming off the bench ?
T. Jones -PG
Booker/Beal - SG
KD - SF
Barring some unmitigated disaster I think KD will retire with the Suns. I don’t think he’s interested in leaving.
His history and character say that is unlikely.
@@vlada He and his agent quickly denied the rumors when Woj was speculating about it so there’s no reason to not believe him.
He loves Ant so much I could see him going to be a high-level role player for a year or two on Minnesota at the end of his career
@@cheesehead9555 He also likes Booker and playing in Phoenix. If anything if he were to leave it will probably be the Seattle expansion.
@@vlada He's only ever requested a trade from the Nets because they were a dumpster fire for multiple reasons. The current owner he has is trying to do whatever it takes to get the Suns a championship. So his history and character says it's very likely he'll stay.
Beal trade was the biggest issue. If they had traded CP3 for draft assets or a cheap player, or let him leave when his contract ended, they'd have had money on the books to help sure up that defense/roster, or at least have some flexibility. Beal just doesnt fit and costs too much money, while also having that no trade clause in his contract so he has to agree to any trade, meaning he cant be moved. KD and Book at least can be traded if need be and would've allowed them to blow it up if the money from trading CP somewhere else or letting him walk, didn't work out well enough. They had Book and KD, would've had Nurkic, and worked from there, but paying Beal 50 million is just far too much when you already knew KD and Book were on the roster with their contracts
Do you know how salary cap works? Even if you wiped off Beal salary they would be already over the cap and wouldn't be able to sign anyone (they would have small exceptions)
I agree on mostly everything except pressure, everyone is counting them out so if they do fail again nobody would be surprised. Also KD's legacy is pretty much set in stone at this point
The Durant trade was a failure.
you mean the bradley beal trade was a failure.
Both were failure
Which one?
@@brushylake4606 the one where we traded our best defenders and role players for a ball dominant player that turns it over a lot.
Definitely, honestly I felt like they made alot of mistakes during Book’s tenure. I mean it’s wild they never got a long term solution in the backcourt with him.
Im really tired of this KD getting injured narrative. Bruh, after coming back from the Achilles, people fell on his damn knees two years in a row and he had a freak accident due to a wet floor when he joined the suns.
He hasnt had durability issues. He has had mishaps
Suns need to blow it up, trade booger , kd , and put a gun on Beal head so he can waive his no trade clause and go after cpoper Flagg . 100 % this Suns squad will win no more than one playoff game
They don’t own any of their picks until like 2030, like it or not this is the team they’re locked in to
Also, regarding defense. It's worthy of mentioning that the Nuggets in 2023 had no big name defenders on their team, yet they defended well enough to win. Just because a team has a roster that isnt well known for defense, doesnt mean they wont play defense at all.
I never thought this would work because they've combined three players that all demand the ball & do alot of one on one play just not good for team ball
No Leadership is the most glaring issue with this team add in Kevin Durant's mood swings and I see the same result.
They need to get rid of Beal for role players
when you have three stars together, they gotta have continuity they’ll be better this year just from being more used to each other
I think that it's defense that kills Phoenix. It's not that they don't have talented defenders, it's that the effort felt very lackluster on that end last year. You look at teams like Boston and their defense is good because not only do they have talent, but they also try hard on that end. Even guys like Pritchard who are not great defenders put in a lot of effort on that end and try to get steals, jump lanes, be a nuisance and fight for rebounds. Similarly, both JT and JB work hard on the defensive end, which sets the right tone for the rest of the team. It's hard for everyone to buy-in when the best players are relying on the roleplayers to do all the defending...which is sometimes how it felt watching the Suns play.
Hey Cone, I'd like to see your take on each of the teams with players in the Olympics and how you think the Olympic run will alter their trajectory. Example, KD might remember what winning feels like, Tatum/Brown may have an axe to grind and all that good good.
Their team can get to playoffs, but the highest they can go is maybe the second round tbh. It'll be fun watching them tho
Nurkic played only around 50+ games in his last 2 seasons in Portland because they literally were tanking and had to sit their vets to lose games, so him playing 70+ games isn't that much of a surprise as he was not actually injured a lot in those 2 seasons. you need to look into context rather than raw data. him playing around the 70 games mark should still be possible next year.
The Suns trading for Beal might’ve been their biggest mistake. Given the next to nothing Boston gave up, they could’ve traded much less and gotten Jrue Holiday instead who would’ve given them the playmaking and defence they were otherwise missing. With the extra remaining assets, they easily could’ve made more moves for some solid defensive role players. They easily could’ve been top contenders had that happened but it’s too bad. Jrue has somehow been underrated his entire career when he’s proven time and again that he can be that final missing piece on a championship contender as long as they have at least two solid scorers with him which the Suns had.
proud owner of the phoenix suns picks 😎 🚀
Great picks to have
Those picks won’t be any good if Booker is still there and healthy
@@ki2726lol yes they will 😂
And the wolves are the proud owner of the phoenix suns
@@DizcretiI doubt it
kd was solid asf on defense last year too
Getting Bradley “over rated over priced” Beal doomed this team last year. Beal is a con artist. He was always a second option on a horrible wizards team 5 years ago and never ever deserving of his max contract. NO ONE wants him on their roaster especially with his stupid no trade clause. The NBA should eliminate Wizards, Hornets, Clippers and Blazers. They are watering down the ENTIRE NBA
Another defensive minded coach for a team that is not defensive minded, definitely not going to end good...again
1) KD is NOT injury prone. In the 2022 and 2023 seasons Bruce Brown and Jimmy Butler ran/fell into his leg each season respectively. He's not like Kawhi where his body just breaks down on him.
2) The Suns ended their season at 13th defensively despite the shortcomings of the roster. The difference between Frank and Budenholzer is that Frank is garbage at offense, while Bud can (and does) coach both at a high level.
Perfect this video perfectly encbapsulates the modern RUclips sports take video
Start with a take...A fairly innocuous take...The one that's been around for months or maybe even en years
Add three maybe four points of evidence
Then let the repeating begin
Take that three minutes of content and repeat it three more times using different words and different sentence form
And there you go 。。。your three minute video is now a thirteen minute RUclips masterpiece
Great video
Suns are just trying to play gm in 2k but they only check the over all stats
Had no idea you went to uva I’m from Charlottesville that’s pretty cool
cone to 100k subs KEEP GOING
Once again 49 wins while going through what they went through is not a “massive disappointment” they win 50+ games if all 3 play 65+ games & they simply lost to a better team in Minnesota and they acquired the necessary pieces in the offseason
We were actually good defensively last season top 10, it was our offense that was trash and also Booker is not a bad defender
All they need to do is add 1 more wing and there fine
Maybe Booker will Talk Shit too Luka again!!! See how that goes
Booker keeping the Kardashian Curse on the Suns.
The suns can be better if Bradley Beal transitions to more of a defensive role. I’m not saying he should be a 3 and d player but he must prioritize defense then shot creation for that starting line up to work. If that happens suns are a top 5 team.
If the Suns start bad, they will trade KD in the deadline. If they do okay, they will keep this team together, but we all know KD is about a month of subpar playing by his teammates from asking for another trade probably to Dallas or Boston or something crazy like that
Clippers and suns keeping the big 3 dream alive.
Unfortunately they sold their soul for an aging/one dimensional beal. They should have retooled the supporting cast knowing they have two elite offensive players on all 3 levels.
It’s not over for the suns cuz it never really started! Only casuals thought this was a thing 😂
Notice how KD gets swept and nobody says a word. Imagine if that was Tatum!! Omgggg 😂 like I always said. KD and Booker are high volume jump shooters who provide nothing else. That’s why they’re always getting smacked around.
suns are not over they are barely starting we got a lot of new essential players
give it up gng
Suns and Mavs ECF 🙏🏽
Ayton wouldve taken this team to the finals 🙃
Everyone blamed a former #1 pick for everything that went wrong. Now we had a much talented team and we blame a point guard situation.
When you assemble a big 3 someone has to sacrifice their game. Look at Bosh/Love. Unfortunately you also take the blame since you ain’t putting up previous numbers.
Team lacked leadership, culture and brotherhood.
they need 2 trade Beal 4 a defensives style player
i live in pheonix, and im so glad im a mavs fan
Watch the Suns go farther this year
Honestly don't get hyped over the phonix suns.
Suns are gonna be a top 2 seed
Suns sell their soul for the Snake.
yes this year maybe next year is the Suns last chance 2 win championship
KD trade was idlotic. Classic new owner shlt, making move at all costs even if it doesnt make any sense and costs you every last asset.
7:28 for half a second i was like "who tf is Bud Wilgo"
Devin Booker is better at basketball than SGA. Suns will be a top 4 seed
BOOKER AND KAT to KNICKS ‼️
Wassssupp
When Vogel was fired, I wanted chaos. F Defense. We have Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beal. We need Mike D'Antoni back.😂
5 seed at best 🤷🏽♂️
unsubbed bruh. didnt know your another rusty buckets lmfao. mavs didnt even make the playoffs in 2022 but yall have these hot takes but phoenix. insane. chemsitry is a thing
Keep sleeping on the suns . Were going to bitch slap the rest of the nba this season. Mark my words
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Should the Suns get bitten by the healthy bug, look out. My sleeper pick to come out of the West. If they are healthy, I don't see a better team. Book, KD and Beal are gonna be tough
Uhh, based on what?? Those 3 guys were trash last year in the clutch and playoffs
@@apexrootsthey made the sixth seed with LITERALLY no point guard. And they still played amazing. Imagine what they are all going to do at there natural positions.
@Unlimited-D-Works who's the team leader? Tyus jones? Feels like sweep 2.0 incoming
@@Unlimited-D-Works Lmao a team with KD, Booker and Beal was only good for a sixth seed? And then got swept by the wolves in the playoffs in the first round? Sheeeesh suns' expectations and standards are pretty low that ya'll set for em. 😂
To think that the Suns might be bad until 2031 is hilarious. Its so far away and yet so real for them
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