How to Score Films: One Scene - Four Styles
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2020
- How to score films: Take one movie scene and score it four different ways. That was the challenge we set film composer, Guy Michelmore. Allow the natural sound to come through but use different instrumentation, different approaches so four quick over-the-shoulder scoring demonstrations including creating instruments from scratch.
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As a film editor, my technique is to edit to the music. It is incredible to see you do the exact opposite.
I find that fascinating too!
For a simple video you can edit to the music, You are almost free to do what you want . But for a film you have a storyboard to follow for the editing then add the music, SFX etc..
7:31 "I quite like hitting the Kids there" hahaha love it
Oh no..... I have to think these things through
"...it sort of changes the mood a bit."
Damn it, yout beat (ha!) me to it!! :D
🤣🤣🤣
This has become my favorite RUclips channel. And I’m not even a musician. Fascinating, uplifting, and inspiring.
This channel is certainly one of the most important channels on songwriting and beyond, in the whole world you-tube community. My hat goesoff to you, Sir, much love from Greece.
Thank you
Please! Never stops doing this kind of videos! Amazing content!!
What you did with the glass sound was incredible, you should make some more synthesis with samples videos!
Okay I'm a session guitarist and when you opened the acoustic patch and just started playing immediately thought "I couldn't play this that good" - way to put me out of a job! 🤣🤣
Ah but session players always bring something special
@@ThinkSpaceEducation of course! I was just blown away at how well you played that acoustic part on keys!
I probably don't need to tell you this but with a keyboard the spread triads are way easier and you can easily cover 2 - 2 1/2 octaves while holding the bass note. I'm not sure Allan Holdsworth could (have) played that. :) What i'm saying is don't feel too bad.
I stumbled upon your channel last night wanting to get ideas on how to start writing orchestral music. I play electric guitar, wanting to incorporate both elements, but just wanted to say in two days you've become my favorite RUclips channel. I admire your creative spirit and way of explaining things
Thank you, Guy, for this inspirational tour. Can't wait to give it a try myself!
This is super nice!! I love to see this way of creating a score! I am only setting my 1st steps into this adventure! Thanks again for the lesson today Guy!
Guy is back! May the magic begin.
The best part of this video is the way he opens the door at 8 min 40 sec haha... Very relatable!
:)
So inspirational! Thank you for your valuable videos Guy!
I'm glad I found this channel. Great videos !! Thanks Guy ! Greetings from Belgium.
Done! Glass Sample was not loading on Iris for some reason, so I ended making another patch with my tibetan bell... it’s been a very fun experience, would be pleased to let you hear the resulting work...thank you again for inspiring me
The sound of the bowl in the very low register is just brilliant
Such a pleasure to watch you....because you take the time to edit to our very short attention spans. You really earn your views. Inspiring, thank you.
Only just found this Guy, wow! Such brilliance, all that you done here was the sort of productions that I have in my head? But just don't have the skill to put the ideas out, so wonderful and beautiful skill full, absolutely blown me away, thank you.
Ive watched about three of your videos and im deeply impressed. Thank you for your help. ive already made significant progress.
Brilliant!
Yeah I come back to Guy every so often. The sarcasm meets incredible composions does it for me!
Thank you very much for this.
Connecting the organic real life with the digital to have fun with film music and creativity, respect.
Your best video yet EVER!!!
Guy you are a delight to watch and I’m really enjoying your videos, especially when you go out mobile/portable on location or in your car..
That 1st track...amazing!
Interesting approaches towards white noise great work, it inspired me to a new method of composing thank you.
Wow.. The Iris 2 is AWESOME!!! Thanks for your videos... You are Amazing :)
Though it's not a contest, I must say that my favorite was your second version. (You should become a spokesman for Izotope. I can see why you like it so much.)
Me too
Very nicely done Guy!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!
Fantastic!
Wonderful! Thank you! Where have you been all my life?!!!
You are an EXCELLENT composer 👏
And a fantastic teacher!
very creative! n Fun! Well DONE! i like it....
Great video. I love hearing your thought processes as you create the pieces. In the last one I would've made the bowls have a wet delay. The regular sound was too inharmonic but the delay "bounces" sounded lovely.
I like the unbound creativity. Top marks for use of the wine glass - interesting layered ambient sounds.
You are BRILLIANT Guy!!
I definitely love the first one.
Hey Guy your videos and courses are great, so thanks and well done.
I have a singing bowl and use a small leather covered beater that came with it, the idea is to cradle the bowl in your hand and hit a note. You then sustain the note by circling the beater on the outside of the bowl, keeping slight contact. Similar to getting the note from a wine glass. A lovely sound when slowed down too.
thank you for sharing .your vids are great in very inspiring.
you have great lighting ! good sound too, obv.
so happy i found your channel :)
Great Job Guy
Master at work! I've to admit - I have a strong addiction to your tutorial videos, Guy. Everyday I am checking notification section to see if a new episode is out. Truly exciting and brilliant to watch how you do what you do. I learn a lot from it and trying to apply to my scoring. Thank You. All the best!
I chuckled hard on the 4 to 3 underlying joke conversion on the orchestral version, well done editor.. and the 3 to 4 of course
Great video!
Great inspiration.
Great ideas!
Could you do a demonstration on using your own samples in Kontakt? The natural sounds was such a neat approach to this video. Thank you for all of your work, Guy!
Nice!
Opening doors by foot - that's what I call a creative process of a composer! Hitting the kids just complic... complements the picture :). Thanks, Guy. Interesting and funny, as usual.
Great vid!
Great tutorial 🙏🏿🙏🦄🎩
the garden studio is much much more inspiring I think overall. if it's raining you can just look outside and write a sad song as it goes, same for a cheerful sunny day and on.
I love the Williams and Zimmer mannequins you just walked past there! =)
they keep an eye on me
Good stuff, Guy! I also like working without a click. Cubase is great in that you can use the Warp tool to move the bar/beat lines of the grid around to adjust them to your performance in order to make musical sense. (Just make sure you use the plain Warp Grid mode - NOT the "musical events follow" version - otherwise you'll drag your performance all out of shape.) Then, editing in the Score editor or, better still, exporting to Dorico/Sibelius/Finale makes so much more sense and make preparing parts for "real" players much easier!
20:50 Best advise of the whole video!
Sound are great and good idea
11:35 sounds so much better with the accidental mouseclick at the end of the sample
Cool And Creative! 🎸😎🍷✌️
In this video Guy starts with a traditional approach then the homemade approach and ends with using artificial prerecorded sounds like the orchestral and electronic sound libraries he already has on deck. One could also do this in the reverse. Start by messing with presets and dohickeys in a software program, but then once you have a good idea what you want, go out into the world and get unique home made sounds that will accomplish the same thing. Then bring it back into the studio and put everything together in a more traditional way. This way you use the libraries to make all the mistakes and hone in on what the project needs, then you build your own never before heard library so the end result is more you.
I was thinking you need to go back and film a serial killer lurking around the beach cabanas for the second version with the tuned glasses :P Then you made the comment about a body.
Enjoying your videos!
+Guy I actually just today subscribed to your channel. I binged a bunch of your vids, and what hooked me was your vid on the BBC SO plugin you bought.....but it seems since that you haven't really been incorporating that program into your compositions. Any reason why?
I love the Hans Zimmer and John Williams cutouts.
Vangelis - Memories Of Blue, is on my mind at the moment hehe
Cool 😉
Thanks for the awesome creativity boost :)
Quick offtopic, how did you get the timecode to show in the video window without the window bar? I'm on Cubase Pro 9.5
We cut the movie in final cut pro x and put the t/c on there
ThinkSpace Education ahh got it, thanks
Wow! What acoustic guitar VST is that? Gorgeous sound!
Открывать дверь с ноги - вот это, я понимаю, творческий процесс композитора :). Спасибо, Гай. Как всегда, интересно.
Hello Guy,, thank you for the nice video and i hope that ich can make a Good Video with Music!
Have you thought about doing a contest for something like this? You film and edit some stuff and your viewers can compose something for it and you can critique them? Sounds like a ton of fun and also interesting to see your take on a bunch of other people's styles.
Yes we should do another contest - we do them from time to time
@@ThinkSpaceEducation Damn, I must've missed them, or maybe im just super late haha. I think it would be a ton of fun, and also some really good practice (at least for me personally before I get my first composer job). And feedback would be fantastic.
Bought Izotope Iris on sale at Plugin Boutique today for about 80% off. Seems like a powerful tool.
I think it's a nice composition that harmonizes in detail with the scenes, only the sound of the seagulls was missing 😆
"Seaguls...stop it now!"
:)
Great video!!!
I'm from Brazil e I would like to see you scoring a Brazilian theme video.
Thanks!
I love your set up and how much you know about it ...............how do you manage family life and all this ???
Wonderful. A pleasure to watch/listen to.
Except ... the trouble with the synth sound is that it just sounds like a synth. The last one felt the least blended with the sea sounds (the original idea).
Yes do it with nature and... FILM... I love that.... THANKS
i thought your first take with the guitar nailed it for a Brian Cox type doc.
Oh my fucking god, you really are a true genius when it comes to music and film, I wish I was your neighbour Guy. I'm 54 year's old and I'm trying so hard to be at your level, looks like I've a very long way to go 😔😔😔😔
4:05 not an exactly I’m running a travel show face 😂
"Glorified white noise" - excellent :)
What library are you using for the acoustic guitar sound, it’s incredibly realistic? Thanks in advance for your response!
He's using Evolution Steel Strings from Orange Tree Samples. ruclips.net/video/iekdYOX9GlI/видео.html
Was wondering what keyboard that was?looks like a controller with omnisphere or something maybe.
M Audio Oxygen 88-k model. It's a MIDI controller.
Guy,
If I wanted 1 acoustic and 1 electric guitar from orange tree, what would you recommend?
Evolution Steel Strings $179 is my go to. electric depends what you're looking for
that entry to the studio made me laugh SO HARD HAHAHAHAHAHA
Im not sure what you were thinking about the bowl.. ?.. im my head it felt far to native to the scene. I like the idea of the wine glass and the bowl and creating a sound. But it didnt quite work for me. Thank you for making this video.. ive learned a lot.
"...the glorified white noise..." brilliant :-D
oooops, I put my comment on the wrong video --- try again -- loved the effect of the wine glass. Wonder if the bowls could have worked better with less delay and only playing low notes. Just a thought. Thanks, Guy.
Very possible. I too thought they may have just been a bit rough.
Still though, worth the shot.
On the last one... I’m thinking that I might put the bowl predominately in the surround channels.... and perhaps add some birds - seagulls, perhaps a loon...
Are there tutorials how to make a sound in Kontakt like Guy did ? One sound over the whole keyboardrange ? Amazing...........
Thats easy you literally click on the spanner icon and drag and drop the sound onto the mapping tab in Kontakt
Great Job Guy. You made a Kontakt file out of the Pot
True!
Guy? I'm just wondering, are you just improvising while recording, or have you thought of the themes and melody beforehand and then recorded the video?
edit: what I'm basically saying is that you are a very good improviser:)
Where is the mailing list? Couldn't find it anywhere, has it been too long and it's been withdrawn now?
What guitar library is that?
orange tree samples steel string acoustic
Wine glasses sound a lot better when held against a table by the bottom.. The fingers on the stem will already dampen the resonance of the glass :) anyway, as you were, sounds good anyway!
Hmm... I’ve got some real lead-glass crystalware.... don’t eat out of it anymore (lead) but... I’ll have to play with it... 🤔
Not arguing with the results, but the singing bowl is played in much the same way as a finger around the glass. There's a leather wrapped beater which is placed inside the bowl and moved in a constant circle on the inside edge of the rim. You can do it on the outside, but it's much harder to keep a constant pressure and therefore tone. Sorry - sorta winced when you just hit it :)
Since you are an good Film Score Composer person, can you do the Film Score Composer in my Movie please, Guy Michelmore!
More brown noise than white. And I find that so peaceful
Please package that wine glass sound! It’s gorgeous.
@@MePeterNicholls You can download it - below
Marvellous!
0:19 what is the triangular thing moving in the top left corner?
ok yeah what is that thing? 😦
illuminati confirmed
#5 plays theme from jaws
Was thinking the same thing!
Well, IMHO guitar is the best. I would be curious to listen guitar + glass
I like the second one but guiatr and glass would be good youre right
How do you choose which approach to go with in the end? There are so many different ways to score a scene or an idea, it can be utterly befuddling.