I would have personally preferred a film centered on Indy on an adventure with Short Round and Mutt, as it would feature Indy together with his surrogate son and biological son respectively.
As flawed as it may be, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had a satisfying ending. He married Marion, had a son, and had a happy ending. Dial of Destiny shouldn't have happened or should've been better.
There were no reshoots on Indy 5. That’s been confirmed several times over. Besides, the cast and crew long moved on. Ford filmed Shrinking, 1923 and Captain America 4 and wasn’t even available when these reshoots “supposedly” happened. They were made up by the same random RUclips “Doomcock” guy. Bizarre so many people still continue to spread his BS.
I agree. I love that ford wanted to do more as this was his ultimate role he wanted to be remembered by. The third movie riding into the sunset was genius only to be ruined by hollywood greed and lucas spielberg and ford went back and forth over the alien idea for well over a decade. They should have listened to their instincts. Crystal skull was meh. The dial of destiny has a beginning and an end both worthy of being in a much better movie. Raiders A+ Doom A- Crusade A+ .. ... Skull C+ DIAL C+
"We need to punch up this script!" "How about removing Marion, and adding a plain woman who keeps talking about how attractive she is! She also writes, making it a twofer!" "Perfect!"
How about this: How about this: Mutt is not dead, he is MIA and a POW in Vietnam… So Indy asks Short Round to help him rescue his son… Along for the ride is his wife Marion and his god daughter played by the much more attractive and far more likable Haley Atwell!!! 🤭
Raiders of the Lost Ark was the first movie I saw without any parents - we were all 10-11 years old and me and six friends all took a 90+ minute bus ride to get to the mall where a theatre was showing the movie. For us at that age it was like an adventure to get there to see what would be a great adventure movie.
@@JoBloOriginals - You know, I loved the video where this channel was in favor of this film. Now you've turned on a dime? Shame. Also, there is ZERO information on Spielberg's script - no reunion with Short Round confirmed, etc. That was made up when people saw fan art of Indy/Short Round, lied and said it was concept art. You need to vet things better.
How about this: How about this: Mutt is not dead, he is MIA and a POW in Vietnam… So Indy asks Short Round to help him rescue his son… Along for the ride is his wife Marion and his god daughter played by the much more attractive and far more likable Haley Atwell!!! 🤭
KOTCS is the end of Jones’ story for me. It is not as good as those that came before it, but it is an Indiana Jones adventure and no one can deny it follows the formula.
The same Kathleen Kennedy who produced Jurassic Park, Lincoln, Gremlins, Back to the Future, Roger Rabbit, ET, The Sixth Sense…all remarkably bad films she ruined, I’m sure you would say.
@@richardathome65 Hey Dick, what is the common denominator with all the films you mentioned? All made WELL before the "Me, Too" and "Woke" Leftist dogma. Some people like me would call those "the good old days"....
Imagine telling someone in 1986 that in 2022 through 2024 there would be a Top Gun part 2, a fifth Indiana Jones, a fifth Ghostbusters, and a fourth Beverly Hills Cop, and they'd all star the actors from the 80s.
The would understandably think of it as being ridiculous. e.g. "You're confusing the actors, right? Because I'm sure an adventure movie starring an 80+ years old Indiana Jones makes no sense."
I'm one of those "older theater-goers" (67 right now). My wife and I are happy to go to the theater for good movies ("Top Gun: Maverick", "Sound of Freedom", "Mission Impossible 6")
Fans online will fight you to the death if you suggest reshoots happened. “The director said there wasn’t. Stop spreading conspiracy theories!!” The release date got pushed back during production by a year, it cost $300m+, John Williams said they were possibly shooting a new ending, and the ending we got felt like it was written in an afternoon.
They filmed multiple endings, showed them to test audiences. they hated them all.(probably Indy staying in the past or dying , PWB becoming the new Indy, maybe she even got back to the future early in the 30s and took his place in his original adventures ) so they had to do reshoots which was what we eventually got (which didn't make too much sense)
80 year old Indy, stupid McGuffin, lame action, bad CGI, monobrow boy, a weak and depressed and pathetic and useless Indiana Jones, not to mention a weird cameo by Antonio Banderas for no reason.
I agree, but after seeing it a second time, I realize that she supposed to play a con woman, and you cannot blame her! Blame the writers!! do you honestly think her dialogue is coming from her? It’s coming from the writers!! (Most likely male writers!!)
While Kennedy IS the individual most responsible for the state of Lucasfilm, I’m sick and tired of people acting like she’s singlehandedly responsible the proliferation of heroines across the movies she produces as if she views it in her best interests solely because of her gender. That’s totally how it works!
@@gamestation2690 Not outright producer but she had always been involved. Anyway it’s not a defense of Kathleen Kennedy but she doesn’t come off much better or worse than most people in the industry in a similar position. People assume because she’s a she that she has an interest in advancing feminist causes at the expense of all else which is such an insulting notion. The only sort of open activism I could find from her was presenting at an event about #metoo shortly after the Weinstein scandal broke, which was admittedly also not long before the release of The Last Jedi. But she has no writing credits and is only known for one instance of executive meddling on Disney’s Star Wars movies.
@@LinkMarioSamus People still misinterpret that photo with her and the "The Force is Female" shirt, which was actually a slogan for Nike Air Force 1 shoes. She most likely wore the shirt because of a simple happenstance.
Idea: Mutt was not really KIA but is actually a POW and Indy finds out. He enlists Short Round and Mutt's two twin children (boy and girl) to go on some adventure to find the means to rescue Mutt. Mutt is rescued and Short Round gets to don the fedora to later pass it on to Indy's twin grandchildren who then all have many adventures including finding Atlantis. Could be more movies or a streaming show.
I only watched this on Disney+ earlier this year and its definately the weakest of the five. I mean, the positives: Harrison Ford turns in a good performance (and I wish I'm that fit when I hit 80). John Williams' Score is good, albeit seldomly spectacular (Helenas' Theme is great, though, although it doesnt really fit its character), Phedon Papamichaels' cinematography at least gives the entire thing the right "look", and as flawed as the CGI occasionally is, the intro is actually quite entertaining, at its core a very Indy-esqe mini adventure that has the right amount of energy. And James Mangold's direction is solid, the guy is certainly no amateur. But Helena is annoying and thoroughy unlikeable, the CGI is very hit and miss, Voller is a weak villain with very little presence (despite reliable Mads Mikkelsen really doing the best he can) and Antonio Banderas and John Rys Davies are utterly wasted in their bit parts. But the films biggest problems are... first of all, it just lacks tension, suspense and stakes, it really doesn't feel like there is any danger at all, no real ticking clock-element. It just... happens. And secondly, I dunno _Crystal Skull_ wasn't fantastic, but Indy was still his old self (albeit grumpier and slightly slower) and it ended with a Happy Ending: He married Marion, became Dean at his old University, and had a Son who may or may not inherit the Fedora in the future. _Dial of Destiny_ starts off with Mutt dead, Indy and Marion about to divorce and him being a simple professor at a less-renowned University, surrounded by Students who are bored by him and "collagues" who want his old ass gone. And then he spends the majority of the movie pushed around by an arrogant, backstabbing upstart who is being an asshole most of the time, yet we are supposed to like? And the movie ends at essentially the same point as _Crystal Skull_ did... only with an even older pair minus one son, their Bloodline extinct. Nope. The Original three movies are the only essential ones, but I like to thinj of _Crystal Skull_ as an extended epilogue that ends on a positive note at least. And Cate Blanchett was a great villain.
1. It was too long. 2. Helena is EXTREMELY unlikeable. 3. Indy is now a broken down drunk old man who basically has a death wish which just made everything depressing. 4. After a while, I just got bored. There’s only so many action sequences you can get into until you realize that you weren’t feeling any danger and you were just watching the somewhat, (in some scenes) questionable visuals. 6. Too much CGI. A few times the de-ageing seemed off plus why spend $300 million USD when you still have a 40 year old Harrison Ford STILL sound like 80 year old Harrison Ford?! You couldn’t hire the best impersonator money can buy??? In the tuk-tuk chase, you can clearly tell it’s CGI when Indy and Helena are bickering. You can see it’s CGI a few times when Indy is on the horse, especially on the two or three close-ups of Indy’s face upwards. You can easily see that it’s a CGI background, which takes us out of the immersion. 7. Teddy is a Great Value version of Short Round, but isn’t as likable or cute. He’s almost like a younger Helena, which is awful. (I could barely stand one!) 8. The best sequence is the prologue on the train, after in 1969, it quickly becomes such a slog. 9. What happens at the end with Indy and Helena annoyed me. (She spent the entire time being so ageist and annoying that for me, I was like, “Okay, we still got 15 minutes to go, I think I’m going to dose off a little.” Because at this point, I just didn’t care anymore and I just wanted to have it be over with! 9. Was Indy ever cleared??? 10. I’m sorry but Crystal Skull is better than this imo. I enjoyed it better. Looking back, Mutt and aliens don’t look as bad anymore. (They did him dirty btw.) 11. It only made $300 million USD TOTAL! 12. Why was this necessary?! Everything goes basically back to depressing reality minus one thing by the end! I’d rather have just had Crystal Skull’s happy ending if we needed a semi recent Indy movie, just leave it at that! And 13. Why couldn’t they have brought Short Round back? He himself saw Indy as his own father figure. He could have become an archaeologist himself and reaches out to Indy, (who is happily still with Marion and who is now thriving and president of his university and who has become wealthy and semi famous after writing several books about his adventures that which would evolve into the young Indiana Jones Chronicles.) to help him on a mission and the movie goes with them instead of Helena. Plus Mutt and Indy are on good terms now, with Mutt being much maturer and wiser after all this time. Perhaps he joins too? SR and Indy can have a really touching moment somewhere in the movie too. And at the end, Indy decides to retire and Mutt announces he's going to be a father. I started thinking about it throughout the movie. Just on what could have been. God what a disappointment!
I quite enjoyed the de-aged indy opening but as soon as the cuted to indys present time and i saw folded flag nex to the mutts portrait i knew this movie will ruin indys story
I hated the way they treated Indy as a grieving Failure because of Mutts unsurprising dead but John Williams told the fans that he was recording new music for new scenes and ending it confirmed what Mangold was denying and that was the shit show that is the movie. Mangold being in Kennedy's payroll went to say that JW was lying and that in my book it is wrong, to treat the legend that way. This movie is boring from start to finish, for me it doesn't feel like a Indy film and Harrison Ford looks and acts bored the whole film. The fact that they killed Mutt and didn't use Short round tells you how the heads of Lucas Film (Kennedy) don't care about these characters. I always visualize a last adventure where Mutt, Short Round and to some degree a grandchild for Indy set out on one last adventure before retiring with their family forever.
First of all, there’s absolutely no reason to use short round. Not for this movie. Second, stop blaming Kathleen Kennedy! You’re like every dweeb out there that hates women, Third, it did not do any better by having Mangold direct it. The whole problem with this film is the writing. It all starts with the writing OK? And by the way Kathleen Kennedy has produced many successful, fun movies some of which you probably have liked
People are sick and tired of seeing new directors crapping on our heroes. Complain about Crystal Skull made a lot of money. Now they have Jones as a terrible, falling apart who needs a strong hateful woman to tell him he has been wrong.
Because sad sack aging heroes is totally only a new thing. Also even though I have not seen the movie I do not get good vibes about how you described Helena, though I have read about her role in the plot.
The whole point was to contrast how this man who had been on such heart pounding adventures had mow grown old and lived a shitty life like many normal people do. How old age gets everybody
@@LinkMarioSamus They did the wrong thing with Indy's age in Kingdom. They tried too hard to not make it seem like Indy was older. They wanted to make it seem like a guy in his 60's was still the same guy and could do the same stuff as when he was in his 30's. So it looked like an old guy wearing a young person costume--this actually makes the character seem older, because when men get older and try to look younger, they seem out of place and trying to be something they're not. This is why middle-aged men who suddenly get Corvettes and Oakley sunglasses actually appear old, because of the dichotomy. This even happened to Harrison Ford--remember in the 90's/early 2000's when he started spiking his hair and getting an earring? This made him seem older because it felt like he was actively fighting against it. Make Indy a bit slower, thicker and maybe keep the beard he had in "Mystery of the Blues", and it would have seemed like a more graceful progression.
@@doctorfeinstone6524 "How old age gets everybody" And how many people want to see that as a protagonist of an exciting adventure film? Especially if you're already a huge fan of the previous ones.
How about this: How about this: Mutt is not dead, he is MIA and a POW in Vietnam… So Indy asks Short Round to help him rescue his son… Along for the ride is his wife Marion and his god daughter played by the much more attractive and far more likable Haley Atwell!!! 🤭
I like Crystal Skull a hell of a lot more than most, and I’m really sad that Dial of Destiny robbed Indiana Jones of his happy ending. It just made him sad and jaded, and the film itself didn’t do much for me either. Many of the characters are forgettable, and even though Mads Mikklesen has some good ideas behind him, none of it really stands out much. I can’t remember most of the characters’ names. I really liked the flashback sequence at the beginning, but most of the stuff aside from the ending was ok but not spectacular.
One thing I noticed about Dial is that it's just too long, but also the audience isn't given any time to just stop and breathe it in. Indy's chased continuously throughout the movie (and caught multiple times, which wears on you), and there aren't any "pauses" where things are just sort of in a stasis or lull so you can drink things in. You feel like you're under the gun the whole time as a viewer. It left out really any sense of amazement or wonder and went straight for the conflict the whole time. And the villains don't even feel unique this time around to make it worth your while--they're not even given an ironic Indy-style death like every other villain the series; they just bite it in a plane crash. On top of that, this time around they lean too far into the aging Indy thing. You started to see the cracks in Kingdom, but it goes overboard here. The sad part is that they did handle this correctly in the Young Indiana Jones bumpers for "Mystery of the Blues"--we had an early-50's aged Indy who was bearded, a bit grayer, but still had that mischievousness to him. They really should have taken a page from "The Dark Knight Returns", and made him a big thicker and bearlike, but still have the same drive as when he was younger. Compare this to Sean Connery--he played older characters but never seemed like his characters were burdened by it. Indy could still be great character in his 60's and 70's if they write him well enough.
Definitely had a “serial” feel to it. They really should have tried to crank out an Indy movie every year (or two, maybe) to utilize Ford/Indy in his prime. Missed opportunity, but in hindsight. The films never had to be “deep”* any more than necessary to be entertaining. And Temple was quite entertaining. * And there IS a remarkable sub “plot” that in Temple that no one else seems to notice: Indy begins as a _loser_ (a little pathetic, in fact). Rewatch it with that in mind. He loses the deal with Lao Che, loses the diamond, nearly loses his life, boards a plane thinking he’s going to “win” - loses, can’t charm Willy - like a loser. Wants to find the Sankara stones for “Fortune and Glory” - selfish, unheroic reasons.
The Director is right, the concept isn't that absurd. What the film lacks to be on par with its predecessors is that slightly horror and disturbing element that was there in every film
I completely disagree about Crystal Skull being too fantastical....did those people watch the previous 3 films??? Supernatural demons coming out of an arc to melt people's faces off? An Indian high priest pulling a beating heart out of a man's chest with his bare hand, his chest closing back up completely healed and the person was still alive after like nothing happened? A knight that was hundreds of years old protecting the holy grail that gave you eternal life when you drank from it or healed a bullet wound if you poured water over it? Aliens is probably the most realistic plot point of all 4 of those movies.
Crystal Skull has a lot of basis in real life ideas. The idea of crystal skulls being connected to aliens is an actual theory. Even Spalko’s supposed mind reading abilities are part of a little-known soviet operation. I might be getting some of this stuff wrong, but Crystal Skull is just as well rooted in reality as the previous three films.
Dial of Destiny should have gone something like this Indiana became like his father ignored his family and preferred ancient dead people over his family. Mutt is not dead he's still enlisted after the war he opened up his shop reparing bikes something he liked doing (as established in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull) got married started a family. Indiana tried to call him but couldn't too ashamed of himself repeating same mistake his father did. Indiana wants to go back in time to get all those years he wasted of not being there for his son, his wife Marion, and not meeting Matt's son. Jurgen is revealed to be brother of Belloq who wants to finish what brother failed to do look for the Dial of Destiny and use to change time the way he sees fit. Helena is not Indiana Jones goddaugther she's actually his daughter her full name is Helena Sophie Jones and her mother is Willie Scott. Before you say Indiana never had a daughter and I'm making it up nope it was established in the Young Indiana Jones series he has daughter named Sophie and she has two kids also Old Indy mentions he has multiple children. Sophie mother is never mentioned and Mutt was a thing yet till Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Helena is similar to her father going on adventures but she actually takes her kids with her on her adventures and spends time with them. Jurgen is revealed to have killed Oxley after he refused to help him find the Dial of Destiny and his death drove wedge between Indiana and Marion with Indiana being accused of not caring for him which is not the case and Marion wanted to avenge Oxley for being there for her and Mutt. Everything in film remains the same but only difference It's not just Indiana and Helena they are joined by Marion, Spike, Lucy, Sallah, and Short Round for one last adventure. Jurgen dies same way like his brother and Donovan the Dial of Destiny taking away his years. Indiana wants to use the Dial of Destiny to go back get all those lost years he wasted not being there for Marion and Mutt but is told by Marion he can't change the past no matter how many times he tries but before he use it the Dial of Destiny destroys itself unable to remain intact. Film ends with Indiana with Marion going to visit their son Mutt before they knock at the door he turns to Marion says "Sweetheart you were right I can't go back no matter how times I can try I can't change the past. If there is one very important thing i learned you have to live life moving forwards not back this time" then Marion gives Indiana a gentle punch in the face. Instead of Mutt answering the door its little boy named Henry Oxley Jones the fourth after Indiana introduces himself and makes amends with his son. Sallah, Short Round, Helena with her children Spike and Lucy, and Stanforth arrive all invited for cook out and just in time to watch NASA launch Armstrong to the moon being covered on the news by none other than Willie Scott which of course Short Round mentions her history with Indiana and Marion gives him that look of really any more surprises. Indiana puts his hat on his grandson passing of the torch finally and Indiana retires. Idk something like this would have been much better
sure, it was that instead of all the poor writing and the rest of it. certainly not that the main character and the actor who plays him are old and tired.
I know people disliked Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, which Spielberg directed, but I would have been interested in seeing him direct Dial Of Destiny. It could have turned out better
I rewatched Crystal Skull with an open mind, after 15 years, prior to seeing Dial. It falls apart a bit mid-way, but there’s an energy and a finesse to Spielberg’s direction that felt diminished in Dial. I’d rank them both at the bottom, but Crystal Skull is rated so lowly that it borders on “underrated.”
I know were talking about "Dial"...i believe in "Crystal" they needed to omit the whole monkey swinging scene..but the whole fencing bit worked..it just felt to silly for a "Jones" flick. We knew Mut was good with a blade. It felt rushed. And yes..true fans...really despise additional characters to Indy films..i believe the Indy films to me were just darker with resonance of what they were back in the day..and they touched your heart into the character with with whom he shared the adventure with..
@@eriksinica2557 It’s funny, the monkey swing worked for me on a second viewing. I gave myself over to the sense of whimsy. What didn’t work: nuclear fridge and CG space alien. Probably never going to work!
Say what you will about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but at least you could tell it was directed by an individual. There was enough energy to keep this adventure afloat. Aside from the opening scene, I don't feel the same way about Dial of Destiny. VIDEO REQUEST: WTF happened to The Last Airbender (2010) Please make this video 🙏
After watching Dial of Destiny i left the theater in total shock and disbelief. I had high hopes, that it would at least be a little bit better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. To me Dial of Destiny is a low effort sacrilege. It's like they didn't even try to live up to the original 80's installments magic, trying to cash in on the name Indiana Jones alone. Is it really that hard to glorify an old hero of times passed? Top Gun: Maverick did it... why can't Disney?
1. It was too long. 2. Helena is EXTREMELY unlikeable. 3. Indy is now a broken down drunk old man who basically has a death wish which just made everything depressing. 4. After a while, I just got bored. There’s only so many action sequences you can get into until you realize that you weren’t feeling any danger and you were just watching the somewhat, (in some scenes) questionable visuals. 6. Too much CGI. A few times the de-ageing seemed off plus why spend $300 million USD when you still have a 40 year old Harrison Ford STILL sound like 80 year old Harrison Ford?! You couldn’t hire the best impersonator money can buy??? In the tuk-tuk chase, you can clearly tell it’s CGI when Indy and Helena are bickering. You can see it’s CGI a few times when Indy is on the horse, especially on the two or three close-ups of Indy’s face upwards. You can easily see that it’s a CGI background, which takes us out of the immersion. 7. Teddy is a Great Value version of Short Round, but isn’t as likable or cute. He’s almost like a younger Helena, which is awful. (I could barely stand one!) 8. The best sequence is the prologue on the train, after in 1969, it quickly becomes such a slog. 9. What happens at the end with Indy and Helena annoyed me. (She spent the entire time being so ageist and annoying that for me, I was like, “Okay, we still got 15 minutes to go, I think I’m going to dose off a little.” Because at this point, I just didn’t care anymore and I just wanted to have it be over with! 9. Was Indy ever cleared??? 10. I’m sorry but Crystal Skull is better than this imo. I enjoyed it better. Looking back, Mutt and aliens don’t look as bad anymore. (They did him dirty btw.) 11. It only made $300 million USD TOTAL! 12. Why was this necessary?! Everything goes basically back to depressing reality minus one thing by the end! I’d rather have just had Crystal Skull’s happy ending if we needed a semi recent Indy movie, just leave it at that! And 13. Why couldn’t they have brought Short Round back? He himself saw Indy as his own father figure. He could have become an archaeologist himself and reaches out to Indy, (who is happily still with Marion and who is now thriving and president of his university and who has become wealthy and semi famous after writing several books about his adventures that which would evolve into the young Indiana Jones Chronicles.) to help him on a mission and the movie goes with them instead of Helena. Plus Mutt and Indy are on good terms now, with Mutt being much maturer and wiser after all this time. Perhaps he joins too? SR and Indy can have a really touching moment somewhere in the movie too. And at the end, Indy decides to retire and Mutt announces he's going to be a father. I started thinking about it throughout the movie. Just on what could have been. God what a disappointment!
It wasn't as bad as the rumors suggested, but there were some questionable decisions made. Including short round would have been a plus, and keeping Indy and Mariam married would have been better. Making him sad and grumpy was also questionable. Everything else was pretty fun to watch. Glad they took out the berating old jokes.
Glenn Powell as Kentucky Jones. I can see the teaser now…camera slowly pans up revealing his whip, satchel, fedora, then BOOM, the Tornado Wrangler himself
You got a "downvote" from me for omitting that the final ending was redone AFTER the referenced OverlordDVD "Phoebe dons hat' rumors were posted, as John Williams himself has stated. Quit throwing your integrity away..
That was never true. Or is this part of the lore that whiny fans need to believe to justify their complaining? Williams never mentioned anything about Phoebe donning the hat, nor has anyone credible.
I just came from the Indiana Jones Sub Reddit, where criticising this film is apparently a crime. The toxic positivity there about this movie is astounding. Don’t understand why people can’t accept that other people don’t have to like the same things they do. It’s completely fine to dislike this film, and talk about it. Just as it’s fine to enjoy it, and talk about that too. I thought it was a poor send off for the character. I wanted to see Indiana Jones, kicking arse for the last time. But instead what we got was some unlikable character, stealing the limelight, always having the final say, never really being wrong. And Indy just doesn’t do much in this film. It’s almost like he was a side character in his own film.
1. It was too long. 2. Helena is EXTREMELY unlikeable. 3. Indy is now a broken down drunk old man who basically has a death wish which just made everything depressing. 4. After a while, I just got bored. There’s only so many action sequences you can get into until you realize that you weren’t feeling any danger and you were just watching the somewhat, (in some scenes) questionable visuals. 6. Too much CGI. A few times the de-ageing seemed off plus why spend $300 million USD when you still have a 40 year old Harrison Ford STILL sound like 80 year old Harrison Ford?! You couldn’t hire the best impersonator money can buy??? In the tuk-tuk chase, you can clearly tell it’s CGI when Indy and Helena are bickering. You can see it’s CGI a few times when Indy is on the horse, especially on the two or three close-ups of Indy’s face upwards. You can easily see that it’s a CGI background, which takes us out of the immersion. 7. Teddy is a Great Value version of Short Round, but isn’t as likable or cute. He’s almost like a younger Helena, which is awful. (I could barely stand one!) 8. The best sequence is the prologue on the train, after in 1969, it quickly becomes such a slog. 9. What happens at the end with Indy and Helena annoyed me. (She spent the entire time being so ageist and annoying that for me, I was like, “Okay, we still got 15 minutes to go, I think I’m going to dose off a little.” Because at this point, I just didn’t care anymore and I just wanted to have it be over with! 9. Was Indy ever cleared??? 10. I’m sorry but Crystal Skull is better than this imo. I enjoyed it better. Looking back, Mutt and aliens don’t look as bad anymore. (They did him dirty btw.) 11. It only made $300 million USD TOTAL! 12. Why was this necessary?! Everything goes basically back to depressing reality minus one thing by the end! I’d rather have just had Crystal Skull’s happy ending if we needed a semi recent Indy movie, just leave it at that! And 13. Why couldn’t they have brought Short Round back? He himself saw Indy as his own father figure. He could have become an archaeologist himself and reaches out to Indy, (who is happily still with Marion and who is now thriving and president of his university and who has become wealthy and semi famous after writing several books about his adventures that which would evolve into the young Indiana Jones Chronicles.) to help him on a mission and the movie goes with them instead of Helena. Plus Mutt and Indy are on good terms now, with Mutt being much maturer and wiser after all this time. Perhaps he joins too? SR and Indy can have a really touching moment somewhere in the movie too. And at the end, Indy decides to retire and Mutt announces he's going to be a father. I started thinking about it throughout the movie. Just on what could have been. God what a disappointment!
Oh my god, yes. Toxic positivity is the perfect description. Fans on there are like, “This is my 18th time watching it! It just gets better and better!” Like, what? There’s such a tribalism that comes with anyone who supports the Disney product. You can’t even say PWB was underwhelming as a sidekick without being called a misogynist.
I thought it was entertaining and Ford carried off the old guy version of Jones really well. The action scenes such as chases weren't in Spielberg's class, too confusingly edited but a good ending. It was better than the last one. Mind you the budget seems insane especially in the era of Godzilla Minus One
No one wants to see an aging hero because it makes them feel vulnerable. I for one was glad to see the reality of the impact Indy had gone through in his life and the toll it took on his life.
I think Dial is decent film. Ford does a good job (though I did have to suspend disbelief a bit that a 80-year old man, even one as fit as Ford, can go on big adventures, chases and fights without ending up seriously injured), there's some decent action bits and I liked seeing Marion and Sallah return. That bit where Indy talks about his regrets with Mutt was well done. My issues is that a lot of it feels like Indiana Jones's Greatest Hits. We've got another scene of Indy disguising himself in Nazi uniform, the Nazis as villains, a kid sidekick, a fight aboard a train, a chase through North African streets, a bit with crawling animals (this time eels), Indy & Marion doing their Raiders romantic scene and so on. But this time, they feel like copies of the originals rather than standing alone for this film. I also felt the movie was too long at two and a half hrs. as an Indy movie should be around two hours at most. I didn't hate Helena Shaw like most, yet my issue was how inconsistently written her character was (one minute she's putting Indy in danger, then at the midpoint, she randomly starts helping him). I also felt the rest of the characters were all forgettable. I love Mads Mikkelsen, but felt he was wasted as the villain. Even for all their flaws, Temple of Doom and Crystal Skull had more personality, standout action scenes, some quotable dialogue and engaging characters. Again, I liked things about it and it's not terrible, but given it's the final installment of one of cinema's greatest heroes, I expected a little better.
I flocked to see the Indiana Jones 4 movie, and I was excited about parts of it and parts of it. I really did not like I do not want to see this last one. It's like a friend that has cancer. He's about to die, and you don't want to see it happen.
When all which have been tested have been proven to have been created here on Earth. Some in the 19th century, some in early 20th. During the same period where all other bogus things were created. Would have been interesting if they were not, but...definitely not aliens.
(long comment as I talk about a few things from the video) _starts talking about Overlord DVD posting a video about bad test screenings_ Oh man I remember that channel, stumbled across one of their Star Wars videos a couple of years back and it felt like I was listening to a cult leader. O_o Don't remember the topic but it was some response to something Disney/LucasFilm did with Star Wars. The way they phrased their sentences combined with the extremely calm and almost assertive tone did not sit well with me at all. He called for fans to band together against something like a boycott or maybe it was to complain/spam about the leadership at the company. Left a couple of minutes in because I legitimately felt like I was somewhere I shouldn't be, it was the first & last time I got that feeling from a RUclips video. Somehow, I'm not surprised that the rumors about the test screenings came from that channel. Anyways in regards to the movie itself: I said this on another RUclips video but I place a lot of the blame on the marketing as well as just Harrison Ford being so old by this point. Leading up to Crystal Skull there was a massive push to bring the series back into relevancy especially for the next generation. The Star Wars Prequels just finished so a lot of people had their eyes on Indiana Jones for a variety of reasons. Lego sets for the series were now being made along with a video game retelling the stories which allowed a ton of kids (myself included) to get into the series. There were Halloween Costumes, cheap fedoras and toys like fake whips. This movie had standard marketing, there was no push to make the series big again so the only reason to see the movie is if you're already a fan, and there was no cultural drive to become a fan. It was just some old character getting a new movie. I mean no disrespect when I say this but Harrison Ford's age also played a part. In Crystal Skull he pretty much looked the same but with grey hair. He's clearly older but also clearly the same guy so any kid that likes Indiana Jones still recognized him in the role. Compare that to this movie where he looks like a grandpa and even kids would think he's too old for the role, assuming they recognize him without being told it's the same guy. This is only a problem because the budget was so huge that they needed the younger generation to see the movie. If it only cost 100M or less than it would've been fine. The movie itself was fine and Harrison is still great in the role but it took too long to get made. Would've done better a decade ago when the franchise was still relevant.
Even if one doesn't like the overall movie, there are often still aspects to enjoy. I despise Highlander 2, but the moment where Sean Connery gives a speech, stops some whirly bladed thing and bagpipe music swells in the background... well, I did enjoy that.
Dial of Destiny bothered me so much. I loved the part where they did the time travel thing. I HATED that she wouldn't just let him stay there. Like, what an ending that would have been. We never would have needed a follow-up movie
I noticed that you didn't mention when discussing alternate ending the fact that Karen Allen has stated in interviews that she wasn't in the final film at all. That she was brought in later during re-shoots and that Mangold has admitted to there being an alternate ending that was not included as extras on home media. Which does mean he did lie about never shooting an alternate ending.
The one thing about the first 3 movies that drew people in was they faced the question of religion and long standing stories that had been around for 1000 years. the crystal skull and dial of destiny have no basis in history. Had they went for something like the spear that pierced Christ's side or some other legend from a religion then things would have went a lot better. Those things have affected people either by word or by life choices. A time machine, while fanciful , has never affected anyone or changed anyone's life.
ANY project that has Waller-Bridge attached to it, is automatically something I will refuse to spend my time and money on. Bloody hell, I dislike that creature with a fiery passion.
I wish the 4 previous films had returned to theaters, one film a week, in anticipation for 'Dial of Destiny'. I LOVE the film, I just really think that it didn't quite resonate with younger audience due to not having that brand awareness.
Ford kind of seemed like he agreed with the fans in an interview he did with James Mangold and Phoebe Waller Bridge. Ford answered the question from the interview, who asked, "what are you most afraid of?" Phoebe Waller said something like spiders, I forget what James Mangold said, and Harrison Ford said, "making a terrible movie." And he looked over to say it again to James Mangold, who didn't really catch what he said. Too bad you did put that clip in here. Kind of says it all just like Mark Hamill did with TLJ.....
Once they added Waller-Bridge, the movie was doomed. If there were a re-edited version of the movie, where her role was somehow reduced greatly, you could have a good movie. Especially if there were more Karen Allen instead. Ultimately, I agree with Bumbray. The franchise should have ended with "Last Crusade", where they literally ride off into the sunset. And yes, there will be further attempts to "reboot" or "re-imagine" Indy. Similar to Margot Robbie wanting to become Captain Jack Sparrow in the next "Pirates" movie.
@@gamestation2690 She is insufferable. Smug, smarmy, snotty and coasting on the fame of something she did years ago, with nothing decent since then. The worst female Indy partner, with Kate Capshaw running a close second (her shrieking throughout the entire movie was really tiresome).
The biggest issue with this movie was how dull and uninspired it was. I’m a massive Indy fan and I wasn’t even thinking about this movie a couple days after seeing it. The original trilogy and even Crystal Skull to a lesser degree had so much energy. The stunts were real and exciting, the locations and sets all had a tangibility to them. They felt gritty and high intensity. Indy’s just going through the motions in Dial. He uses his whip one time, barely fights anyone, and spends the entire bizarre third act bleeding out on a plane. The action scenes were forgettable. There was nothing remotely close to the truck chase, mine cart bridge fight, tank chase, or even the motorcycle chase from Crystal Skull. The storyline with Indy and Marion felt incredibly contrived and far too similar to what they did with Han and Leia. For the legend, Indiana Jones, to go out in such an unceremonious way was just pretty sad. Also, Indy 4 made 7 HUNDRED million worldwide… not 70 million. It was a massive box office hit
Although I love your channel. You need to admit the internet rumors were true. They did change the ending. John Williams confirmed it. They should never have hired Phoebe waller bridge.. she is a hardcore feminist and turns off half the country
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I would have personally preferred a film centered on Indy on an adventure with Short Round and Mutt, as it would feature Indy together with his surrogate son and biological son respectively.
That could've been really interesting! Short Round rules
@@JoBloOriginals Yeah, especially as Ke Huy Quan is now an academy award winning actor.
If Disney didn't suck and wasn't run by ideologues, a Short Round series of films or a TV series would ROCK!
i‘d want to see that movie…
@@k2sworld Yeah, as Walt Disney has been replaced with “Woke” Disney for the past several years now.
As flawed as it may be, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had a satisfying ending. He married Marion, had a son, and had a happy ending. Dial of Destiny shouldn't have happened or should've been better.
Dial of Destiny was a stupid story. It should've been entirely a story in Indy's past, not when he's old and fragile.
There are 3 .
A low bar to be better than Crystal Skull with its awful jungle CGI chase scene… yet it didn’t come close to crossing it!
Nah, we need one more with his long lost 1/2 brother, Indiana Smith.
@@Flint-Dibble-the-Don LOL 😆
"No, there were no screenings with bad results. We simply spent a hundred million on reshoots to help support the movie-making community."
There were no reshoots on Indy 5. That’s been confirmed several times over. Besides, the cast and crew long moved on. Ford filmed Shrinking, 1923 and Captain America 4 and wasn’t even available when these reshoots “supposedly” happened. They were made up by the same random RUclips “Doomcock” guy. Bizarre so many people still continue to spread his BS.
lol yeah economy is hard rn so we'll spend a lot of money to help
Indiana Jones to me will forever be a trilogy of movies released in the 1980s.
I agree. I love that ford wanted to do more as this was his ultimate role he wanted to be remembered by. The third movie riding into the sunset was genius only to be ruined by hollywood greed and lucas spielberg and ford went back and forth over the alien idea for well over a decade. They should have listened to their instincts. Crystal skull was meh. The dial of destiny has a beginning and an end both worthy of being in a much better movie. Raiders A+ Doom A- Crusade A+
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Skull C+
DIAL C+
Same with the Star Wars Trilogy.
"We need to punch up this script!" "How about removing Marion, and adding a plain woman who keeps talking about how attractive she is! She also writes, making it a twofer!" "Perfect!"
Exactly Girl Boss film, it was.
@@tek_soup The same awful actress is working on the new Lara Croft movie.
@@6581punk i know, shit rolls up hill in Hollywood Woke.
This is what happens when you let business people, instead of artists, make the principal decisions.
How about this:
How about this:
Mutt is not dead, he is MIA and a POW in Vietnam…
So Indy asks Short Round to help him rescue his son…
Along for the ride is his wife Marion and his god daughter played by the much more attractive and far more likable Haley Atwell!!!
🤭
Raiders of the Lost Ark was the first movie I saw without any parents - we were all 10-11 years old and me and six friends all took a 90+ minute bus ride to get to the mall where a theatre was showing the movie. For us at that age it was like an adventure to get there to see what would be a great adventure movie.
Now THERE's a subject for an interesting movie. (But, you know, Hollyweird, "postmodern writers," The Message, DEI, ESG.)
@@Otokichi786 What are you on about? LOL
Mads Mikkelsen can play a villain role in his sleep and still be menacing.
Just rewatched Dr Strange, he was the best actor in it.
He could be a villain in a coma and still upstage the lead.
he haunts my nightmares and i like it
but then again… even he couldn‘t save this boring movie from failing
Pusher movies were pretty good
Spielberg's Indy 5 script would have reunited Indy with an adult Short Round, as well as more of Marion. We were robbed.
it keeps me up at night imagining what could've been.
Source? This is pretty much a lie.
@@JoBloOriginals - You know, I loved the video where this channel was in favor of this film. Now you've turned on a dime? Shame. Also, there is ZERO information on Spielberg's script - no reunion with Short Round confirmed, etc. That was made up when people saw fan art of Indy/Short Round, lied and said it was concept art. You need to vet things better.
@@braytonwright6011 this movie sucked. Sound of Freedom was far better and made far more $$$ as it should have!
How about this:
How about this:
Mutt is not dead, he is MIA and a POW in Vietnam…
So Indy asks Short Round to help him rescue his son…
Along for the ride is his wife Marion and his god daughter played by the much more attractive and far more likable Haley Atwell!!!
🤭
The final budget of this movie was around 348M. Not including marketing.
insane
Sounds like a domestic box office gross more than a actual budget. A bloated budget was one of the factors for the fifth movie's ultimate failure.
Why?
Lots of reshoots
Jesus Christ and they really thought that was a good idea???
There are only three Indiana Jones movies.
That's the way we see it :)
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They rode off into the sunset after Last Crusade and no other movies were ever made ever. EVER!!!
You tell 'em, John Casey!
purist
KOTCS is the end of Jones’ story for me. It is not as good as those that came before it, but it is an Indiana Jones adventure and no one can deny it follows the formula.
As flawed as it is, it's leagues better than Dial of Destiny.
And Dial of Destiny doesn't?
@@Casarzino No, it doesnt actually, Mangold just didnt know the secret formula for an Indy film, and it's glaringly obvious
@@LoneWolf051 to me Dial felt much more like an Indiana Jones film than KOTCS.
This movie should've been called " Grumpy Old Man & The Death of a Dynasty".
Dial of Dysentery
@@cameron398 how can such an exciting premise miss? bahahahahahah
"Creative team" and the name Kathleen Kennedy shouldn't be in the same sentence.
Did she make it gay and lame😂
@@alexalexalex797 imsure
Demolition team would be more appropriate
So very true.
Considering she’s really not the mastermind behind the stories, I agree. Great scapegoat though
the history channel guy with the Einstein hair has become the face of anything alien/UFO LOL
Kathleen Kennedy that's what happened.
Abso-fucking-LUTELY!
How does she still have a job?
The same Kathleen Kennedy who produced Jurassic Park, Lincoln, Gremlins, Back to the Future, Roger Rabbit, ET, The Sixth Sense…all remarkably bad films she ruined, I’m sure you would say.
@@richardathome65 Hey Dick, what is the common denominator with all the films you mentioned? All made WELL before the "Me, Too" and "Woke" Leftist dogma. Some people like me would call those "the good old days"....
Misogyny and South Park fans go hand-in-hand.
Imagine telling someone in 1986 that in 2022 through 2024 there would be a Top Gun part 2, a fifth Indiana Jones, a fifth Ghostbusters, and a fourth Beverly Hills Cop, and they'd all star the actors from the 80s.
Or telling summer 1989 folk - Batman and Indy again in summer 2023 (but they both bomb)
Back to the Future Part II predicted it with the holographic Jaws 19
The would understandably think of it as being ridiculous.
e.g. "You're confusing the actors, right? Because I'm sure an adventure movie starring an 80+ years old Indiana Jones makes no sense."
I'm one of those "older theater-goers" (67 right now). My wife and I are happy to go to the theater for good movies ("Top Gun: Maverick", "Sound of Freedom", "Mission Impossible 6")
Honestly, I love ALL of the Indiana Jones movies, even Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny.
Fans online will fight you to the death if you suggest reshoots happened. “The director said there wasn’t. Stop spreading conspiracy theories!!”
The release date got pushed back during production by a year, it cost $300m+, John Williams said they were possibly shooting a new ending, and the ending we got felt like it was written in an afternoon.
They filmed multiple endings, showed them to test audiences. they hated them all.(probably Indy staying in the past or dying , PWB becoming the new Indy, maybe she even got back to the future early in the 30s and took his place in his original adventures ) so they had to do reshoots which was what we eventually got (which didn't make too much sense)
3 main problems with Diaper of Dysentery
1. Phoebe
2. Waller
3. Bridge
80 year old Indy, stupid McGuffin, lame action, bad CGI, monobrow boy, a weak and depressed and pathetic and useless Indiana Jones, not to mention a weird cameo by Antonio Banderas for no reason.
@@ferociousgumby Are you ageist?
@@gamestation2690 Yep, and I'm 70 years old.
I agree. Phoebe Waller Bridge screwed up this franchise and the James Bond franchise too.
@@andrewgardner8972 What did she do to make you hate her so much?
"We need to punch up this script!" "How about the writer who killed James Bond!" "Perfect!"
Oof. I get that Waller-Bridge is a huge deal in regards to her own writing projects, but she should stay away from franchise films.
PWB didn't even do anything writing-wise with this film...
@braytonwright6011 No, but she might be the most unlikable, insufferable protagonist I've seen in a movie.
Hey cut them Slack at least they didn't kill Indy.
Technically daniel craig killed bond, I'd say. He wanted that outcome, and barabara broccoli and the crew were more than happy to grant it
Phoebe Waller Bridge is beyond unlikable in this movie. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ROOT FOR HER????
You were also supposed to root for her when she played "feminist-bot 5000" in that _Solo: A Star Wars Story_ movie
Her character is the single most insufferable protagonist that I've ever seen in a movie. Just a loathsome character.
@@Right_Said_Brett And she's REALLY hard to look at.
I agree, but after seeing it a second time, I realize that she supposed to play a con woman, and you cannot blame her! Blame the writers!! do you honestly think her dialogue is coming from her? It’s coming from the writers!! (Most likely male writers!!)
@@bassage13 for God sake no she isn’t. Grow up
Kathleen Kennedy had a wide on for Phoebe Waller bridge.
Oof
While Kennedy IS the individual most responsible for the state of Lucasfilm, I’m sick and tired of people acting like she’s singlehandedly responsible the proliferation of heroines across the movies she produces as if she views it in her best interests solely because of her gender. That’s totally how it works!
@@LinkMarioSamus She was also a producer on all of the previous Indiana Jones movies.
@@gamestation2690 Not outright producer but she had always been involved. Anyway it’s not a defense of Kathleen Kennedy but she doesn’t come off much better or worse than most people in the industry in a similar position. People assume because she’s a she that she has an interest in advancing feminist causes at the expense of all else which is such an insulting notion. The only sort of open activism I could find from her was presenting at an event about #metoo shortly after the Weinstein scandal broke, which was admittedly also not long before the release of The Last Jedi. But she has no writing credits and is only known for one instance of executive meddling on Disney’s Star Wars movies.
@@LinkMarioSamus People still misinterpret that photo with her and the "The Force is Female" shirt, which was actually a slogan for Nike Air Force 1 shoes. She most likely wore the shirt because of a simple happenstance.
Idea: Mutt was not really KIA but is actually a POW and Indy finds out. He enlists Short Round and Mutt's two twin children (boy and girl) to go on some adventure to find the means to rescue Mutt. Mutt is rescued and Short Round gets to don the fedora to later pass it on to Indy's twin grandchildren who then all have many adventures including finding Atlantis. Could be more movies or a streaming show.
Nah he dead 💀
I only watched this on Disney+ earlier this year and its definately the weakest of the five.
I mean, the positives: Harrison Ford turns in a good performance (and I wish I'm that fit when I hit 80). John Williams' Score is good, albeit seldomly spectacular (Helenas' Theme is great, though, although it doesnt really fit its character), Phedon Papamichaels' cinematography at least gives the entire thing the right "look", and as flawed as the CGI occasionally is, the intro is actually quite entertaining, at its core a very Indy-esqe mini adventure that has the right amount of energy. And James Mangold's direction is solid, the guy is certainly no amateur.
But Helena is annoying and thoroughy unlikeable, the CGI is very hit and miss, Voller is a weak villain with very little presence (despite reliable Mads Mikkelsen really doing the best he can) and Antonio Banderas and John Rys Davies are utterly wasted in their bit parts.
But the films biggest problems are... first of all, it just lacks tension, suspense and stakes, it really doesn't feel like there is any danger at all, no real ticking clock-element. It just... happens.
And secondly, I dunno _Crystal Skull_ wasn't fantastic, but Indy was still his old self (albeit grumpier and slightly slower) and it ended with a Happy Ending: He married Marion, became Dean at his old University, and had a Son who may or may not inherit the Fedora in the future. _Dial of Destiny_ starts off with Mutt dead, Indy and Marion about to divorce and him being a simple professor at a less-renowned University, surrounded by Students who are bored by him and "collagues" who want his old ass gone. And then he spends the majority of the movie pushed around by an arrogant, backstabbing upstart who is being an asshole most of the time, yet we are supposed to like? And the movie ends at essentially the same point as _Crystal Skull_ did... only with an even older pair minus one son, their Bloodline extinct.
Nope.
The Original three movies are the only essential ones, but I like to thinj of _Crystal Skull_ as an extended epilogue that ends on a positive note at least. And Cate Blanchett was a great villain.
1. It was too long. 2. Helena is EXTREMELY unlikeable. 3. Indy is now a broken down drunk old man who basically has a death wish which just made everything depressing. 4. After a while, I just got bored. There’s only so many action sequences you can get into until you realize that you weren’t feeling any danger and you were just watching the somewhat, (in some scenes) questionable visuals. 6. Too much CGI. A few times the de-ageing seemed off plus why spend $300 million USD when you still have a 40 year old Harrison Ford STILL sound like 80 year old Harrison Ford?! You couldn’t hire the best impersonator money can buy??? In the tuk-tuk chase, you can clearly tell it’s CGI when Indy and Helena are bickering. You can see it’s CGI a few times when Indy is on the horse, especially on the two or three close-ups of Indy’s face upwards. You can easily see that it’s a CGI background, which takes us out of the immersion. 7. Teddy is a Great Value version of Short Round, but isn’t as likable or cute. He’s almost like a younger Helena, which is awful. (I could barely stand one!) 8. The best sequence is the prologue on the train, after in 1969, it quickly becomes such a slog. 9. What happens at the end with Indy and Helena annoyed me. (She spent the entire time being so ageist and annoying that for me, I was like, “Okay, we still got 15 minutes to go, I think I’m going to dose off a little.” Because at this point, I just didn’t care anymore and I just wanted to have it be over with! 9. Was Indy ever cleared??? 10. I’m sorry but Crystal Skull is better than this imo. I enjoyed it better. Looking back, Mutt and aliens don’t look as bad anymore. (They did him dirty btw.) 11. It only made $300 million USD TOTAL! 12. Why was this necessary?! Everything goes basically back to depressing reality minus one thing by the end! I’d rather have just had Crystal Skull’s happy ending if we needed a semi recent Indy movie, just leave it at that! And 13. Why couldn’t they have brought Short Round back? He himself saw Indy as his own father figure. He could have become an archaeologist himself and reaches out to Indy, (who is happily still with Marion and who is now thriving and president of his university and who has become wealthy and semi famous after writing several books about his adventures that which would evolve into the young Indiana Jones Chronicles.) to help him on a mission and the movie goes with them instead of Helena. Plus Mutt and Indy are on good terms now, with Mutt being much maturer and wiser after all this time. Perhaps he joins too? SR and Indy can have a really touching moment somewhere in the movie too. And at the end, Indy decides to retire and Mutt announces he's going to be a father. I started thinking about it throughout the movie. Just on what could have been. God what a disappointment!
I quite enjoyed the de-aged indy opening but as soon as the cuted to indys present time and i saw folded flag nex to the mutts portrait i knew this movie will ruin indys story
To me it felt kinda like the creators of the movie *didn't* like Indiana Jones.
‘Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny’ is the biggest missed opportunity ever… instead we got ‘dial’ which was terrible.
There’s already a comic by that name.
Anything with “of Destiny” in the title is going to be hard to take seriously, even for Indiana Jones
@@nochannelmusician769 Why?
That DVD OVERLORD has some good inside sources. He has always been right concerning STAR WARS.
He's full of shit like the rest of em
Watched "Raiders of The Lost Ark" last night at a Harkins theater in Denver, as part of their Tuesday Night Classics series. LOVED IT!
that's a SWEET way to see Raiders! Classic movies for life
Jealous!
I hated the way they treated Indy as a grieving Failure because of Mutts unsurprising dead but John Williams told the fans that he was recording new music for new scenes and ending it confirmed what Mangold was denying and that was the shit show that is the movie. Mangold being in Kennedy's payroll went to say that JW was lying and that in my book it is wrong, to treat the legend that way. This movie is boring from start to finish, for me it doesn't feel like a Indy film and Harrison Ford looks and acts bored the whole film. The fact that they killed Mutt and didn't use Short round tells you how the heads of Lucas Film (Kennedy) don't care about these characters. I always visualize a last adventure where Mutt, Short Round and to some degree a grandchild for Indy set out on one last adventure before retiring with their family forever.
First of all, there’s absolutely no reason to use short round. Not for this movie. Second, stop blaming Kathleen Kennedy!
You’re like every dweeb out there that hates women, Third, it did not do any better by having Mangold direct it. The whole problem with this film is the writing. It all starts with the writing OK? And by the way Kathleen Kennedy has produced many successful, fun movies some of which you probably have liked
People are sick and tired of seeing new directors crapping on our heroes. Complain about Crystal Skull made a lot of money. Now they have Jones as a terrible, falling apart who needs a strong hateful woman to tell him he has been wrong.
Because sad sack aging heroes is totally only a new thing. Also even though I have not seen the movie I do not get good vibes about how you described Helena, though I have read about her role in the plot.
The whole point was to contrast how this man who had been on such heart pounding adventures had mow grown old and lived a shitty life like many normal people do. How old age gets everybody
@@doctorfeinstone6524 Yeah the previous movie apparently got criticism for not taking Indy’s age into account enough.
@@LinkMarioSamus They did the wrong thing with Indy's age in Kingdom. They tried too hard to not make it seem like Indy was older. They wanted to make it seem like a guy in his 60's was still the same guy and could do the same stuff as when he was in his 30's. So it looked like an old guy wearing a young person costume--this actually makes the character seem older, because when men get older and try to look younger, they seem out of place and trying to be something they're not. This is why middle-aged men who suddenly get Corvettes and Oakley sunglasses actually appear old, because of the dichotomy. This even happened to Harrison Ford--remember in the 90's/early 2000's when he started spiking his hair and getting an earring? This made him seem older because it felt like he was actively fighting against it.
Make Indy a bit slower, thicker and maybe keep the beard he had in "Mystery of the Blues", and it would have seemed like a more graceful progression.
@@doctorfeinstone6524 "How old age gets everybody"
And how many people want to see that as a protagonist of an exciting adventure film? Especially if you're already a huge fan of the previous ones.
I still think dial of destiny shouldve been about Mutt and Short Round trying to find a kidnapped Indy
That would’ve been cool.
How about this:
How about this:
Mutt is not dead, he is MIA and a POW in Vietnam…
So Indy asks Short Round to help him rescue his son…
Along for the ride is his wife Marion and his god daughter played by the much more attractive and far more likable Haley Atwell!!!
🤭
Nope
@@OLOHEKAI are you gonna put your damn answer in every comment?
I like Crystal Skull a hell of a lot more than most, and I’m really sad that Dial of Destiny robbed Indiana Jones of his happy ending. It just made him sad and jaded, and the film itself didn’t do much for me either. Many of the characters are forgettable, and even though Mads Mikklesen has some good ideas behind him, none of it really stands out much. I can’t remember most of the characters’ names. I really liked the flashback sequence at the beginning, but most of the stuff aside from the ending was ok but not spectacular.
One thing I noticed about Dial is that it's just too long, but also the audience isn't given any time to just stop and breathe it in. Indy's chased continuously throughout the movie (and caught multiple times, which wears on you), and there aren't any "pauses" where things are just sort of in a stasis or lull so you can drink things in. You feel like you're under the gun the whole time as a viewer. It left out really any sense of amazement or wonder and went straight for the conflict the whole time. And the villains don't even feel unique this time around to make it worth your while--they're not even given an ironic Indy-style death like every other villain the series; they just bite it in a plane crash.
On top of that, this time around they lean too far into the aging Indy thing. You started to see the cracks in Kingdom, but it goes overboard here. The sad part is that they did handle this correctly in the Young Indiana Jones bumpers for "Mystery of the Blues"--we had an early-50's aged Indy who was bearded, a bit grayer, but still had that mischievousness to him. They really should have taken a page from "The Dark Knight Returns", and made him a big thicker and bearlike, but still have the same drive as when he was younger. Compare this to Sean Connery--he played older characters but never seemed like his characters were burdened by it. Indy could still be great character in his 60's and 70's if they write him well enough.
the "Temple of Doom" (George Lucas and Steven Spielberg's divorce movie) was the best!
It's the best of the sequels, for sure!
@k2sworld no it isn't. The last crusade is.
..it depends ...indy 3 mature and wise vs indy 2 bad ass hero.... i like both of them equal...😊😊😊
Definitely had a “serial” feel to it. They really should have tried to crank out an Indy movie every year (or two, maybe) to utilize Ford/Indy in his prime. Missed opportunity, but in hindsight.
The films never had to be “deep”* any more than necessary to be entertaining. And Temple was quite entertaining.
* And there IS a remarkable sub “plot” that in Temple that no one else seems to notice: Indy begins as a _loser_ (a little pathetic, in fact). Rewatch it with that in mind. He loses the deal with Lao Che, loses the diamond, nearly loses his life, boards a plane thinking he’s going to “win” - loses, can’t charm Willy - like a loser. Wants to find the Sankara stones for “Fortune and Glory” - selfish, unheroic reasons.
Kingdom skull was the first movie I about walked out of if not for my buddy. I wouldn't piss on dial if it were on fire and it was..
Thanks!
"Subverting our expectations ". The Ruin Johnson playbook.
The Director is right, the concept isn't that absurd. What the film lacks to be on par with its predecessors is that slightly horror and disturbing element that was there in every film
I completely disagree about Crystal Skull being too fantastical....did those people watch the previous 3 films??? Supernatural demons coming out of an arc to melt people's faces off? An Indian high priest pulling a beating heart out of a man's chest with his bare hand, his chest closing back up completely healed and the person was still alive after like nothing happened? A knight that was hundreds of years old protecting the holy grail that gave you eternal life when you drank from it or healed a bullet wound if you poured water over it? Aliens is probably the most realistic plot point of all 4 of those movies.
Crystal Skull has a lot of basis in real life ideas. The idea of crystal skulls being connected to aliens is an actual theory. Even Spalko’s supposed mind reading abilities are part of a little-known soviet operation. I might be getting some of this stuff wrong, but Crystal Skull is just as well rooted in reality as the previous three films.
Dial of Destiny should have gone something like this
Indiana became like his father ignored his family and preferred ancient dead people over his family. Mutt is not dead he's still enlisted after the war he opened up his shop reparing bikes something he liked doing (as established in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull) got married started a family. Indiana tried to call him but couldn't too ashamed of himself repeating same mistake his father did. Indiana wants to go back in time to get all those years he wasted of not being there for his son, his wife Marion, and not meeting Matt's son. Jurgen is revealed to be brother of Belloq who wants to finish what brother failed to do look for the Dial of Destiny and use to change time the way he sees fit.
Helena is not Indiana Jones goddaugther she's actually his daughter her full name is Helena Sophie Jones and her mother is Willie Scott. Before you say Indiana never had a daughter and I'm making it up nope it was established in the Young Indiana Jones series he has daughter named Sophie and she has two kids also Old Indy mentions he has multiple children. Sophie mother is never mentioned and Mutt was a thing yet till Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Helena is similar to her father going on adventures but she actually takes her kids with her on her adventures and spends time with them. Jurgen is revealed to have killed Oxley after he refused to help him find the Dial of Destiny and his death drove wedge between Indiana and Marion with Indiana being accused of not caring for him which is not the case and Marion wanted to avenge Oxley for being there for her and Mutt. Everything in film remains the same but only difference It's not just Indiana and Helena they are joined by Marion, Spike, Lucy, Sallah, and Short Round for one last adventure. Jurgen dies same way like his brother and Donovan the Dial of Destiny taking away his years. Indiana wants to use the Dial of Destiny to go back get all those lost years he wasted not being there for Marion and Mutt but is told by Marion he can't change the past no matter how many times he tries but before he use it the Dial of Destiny destroys itself unable to remain intact. Film ends with Indiana with Marion going to visit their son Mutt before they knock at the door he turns to Marion says "Sweetheart you were right I can't go back no matter how times I can try I can't change the past. If there is one very important thing i learned you have to live life moving forwards not back this time" then Marion gives Indiana a gentle punch in the face. Instead of Mutt answering the door its little boy named Henry Oxley Jones the fourth after Indiana introduces himself and makes amends with his son. Sallah, Short Round, Helena with her children Spike and Lucy, and Stanforth arrive all invited for cook out and just in time to watch NASA launch Armstrong to the moon being covered on the news by none other than Willie Scott which of course Short Round mentions her history with Indiana and Marion gives him that look of really any more surprises. Indiana puts his hat on his grandson passing of the torch finally and Indiana retires. Idk something like this would have been much better
You should consider using paragraphs.
Disney and DEI/ESG cancer happened to it
You are correct, but it figures that your comment wasn't hearted by the channel owner.
sure, it was that instead of all the poor writing and the rest of it. certainly not that the main character and the actor who plays him are old and tired.
I know people disliked Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, which Spielberg directed, but I would have been interested in seeing him direct Dial Of Destiny. It could have turned out better
I rewatched Crystal Skull with an open mind, after 15 years, prior to seeing Dial. It falls apart a bit mid-way, but there’s an energy and a finesse to Spielberg’s direction that felt diminished in Dial. I’d rank them both at the bottom, but Crystal Skull is rated so lowly that it borders on “underrated.”
I know were talking about "Dial"...i believe in "Crystal" they needed to omit the whole monkey swinging scene..but the whole fencing bit worked..it just felt to silly for a "Jones" flick. We knew Mut was good with a blade. It felt rushed. And yes..true fans...really despise additional characters to Indy films..i believe the Indy films to me were just darker with resonance of what they were back in the day..and they touched your heart into the character with with whom he shared the adventure with..
@@eriksinica2557 It’s funny, the monkey swing worked for me on a second viewing. I gave myself over to the sense of whimsy. What didn’t work: nuclear fridge and CG space alien. Probably never going to work!
Dial of Dysentery. Terrible.
They stupidly decided to film it...and that's after they read the script. Thats what happened to this movie
Which script? There were like a dozen versions, half which got filmed some then rightly shelved.
Keep it up, Joe! Love your content!
Plus, I love the historical elements of Indiana Jones movies.
Say what you will about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but at least you could tell it was directed by an individual. There was enough energy to keep this adventure afloat. Aside from the opening scene, I don't feel the same way about Dial of Destiny.
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Indy 4 made more than 79.6 million at the worldwide box office. lol
After watching Dial of Destiny i left the theater in total shock and disbelief. I had high hopes, that it would at least be a little bit better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. To me Dial of Destiny is a low effort sacrilege. It's like they didn't even try to live up to the original 80's installments magic, trying to cash in on the name Indiana Jones alone. Is it really that hard to glorify an old hero of times passed? Top Gun: Maverick did it... why can't Disney?
1. It was too long. 2. Helena is EXTREMELY unlikeable. 3. Indy is now a broken down drunk old man who basically has a death wish which just made everything depressing. 4. After a while, I just got bored. There’s only so many action sequences you can get into until you realize that you weren’t feeling any danger and you were just watching the somewhat, (in some scenes) questionable visuals. 6. Too much CGI. A few times the de-ageing seemed off plus why spend $300 million USD when you still have a 40 year old Harrison Ford STILL sound like 80 year old Harrison Ford?! You couldn’t hire the best impersonator money can buy??? In the tuk-tuk chase, you can clearly tell it’s CGI when Indy and Helena are bickering. You can see it’s CGI a few times when Indy is on the horse, especially on the two or three close-ups of Indy’s face upwards. You can easily see that it’s a CGI background, which takes us out of the immersion. 7. Teddy is a Great Value version of Short Round, but isn’t as likable or cute. He’s almost like a younger Helena, which is awful. (I could barely stand one!) 8. The best sequence is the prologue on the train, after in 1969, it quickly becomes such a slog. 9. What happens at the end with Indy and Helena annoyed me. (She spent the entire time being so ageist and annoying that for me, I was like, “Okay, we still got 15 minutes to go, I think I’m going to dose off a little.” Because at this point, I just didn’t care anymore and I just wanted to have it be over with! 9. Was Indy ever cleared??? 10. I’m sorry but Crystal Skull is better than this imo. I enjoyed it better. Looking back, Mutt and aliens don’t look as bad anymore. (They did him dirty btw.) 11. It only made $300 million USD TOTAL! 12. Why was this necessary?! Everything goes basically back to depressing reality minus one thing by the end! I’d rather have just had Crystal Skull’s happy ending if we needed a semi recent Indy movie, just leave it at that! And 13. Why couldn’t they have brought Short Round back? He himself saw Indy as his own father figure. He could have become an archaeologist himself and reaches out to Indy, (who is happily still with Marion and who is now thriving and president of his university and who has become wealthy and semi famous after writing several books about his adventures that which would evolve into the young Indiana Jones Chronicles.) to help him on a mission and the movie goes with them instead of Helena. Plus Mutt and Indy are on good terms now, with Mutt being much maturer and wiser after all this time. Perhaps he joins too? SR and Indy can have a really touching moment somewhere in the movie too. And at the end, Indy decides to retire and Mutt announces he's going to be a father. I started thinking about it throughout the movie. Just on what could have been. God what a disappointment!
Indy fan for decades but i liked it. Wasn't amazing but it surprised me pleasantly
It wasn't as bad as the rumors suggested, but there were some questionable decisions made. Including short round would have been a plus, and keeping Indy and Mariam married would have been better. Making him sad and grumpy was also questionable. Everything else was pretty fun to watch. Glad they took out the berating old jokes.
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Glasgow, Italy. Nice one guys.
Yeah, how do the movies that Phoebe Waller Bridge “fixes” do at the box office?
They don't care about money.
They care more about Ideology.
That's why people like Phoebe Waller Bridge are allowed to fail upwards.
How good was Indy 1? My girlfriend and I held hands while watching it. At the end of the movie, our hands ached from gripping so tightly.
Glenn Powell as Kentucky Jones. I can see the teaser now…camera slowly pans up revealing his whip, satchel, fedora, then BOOM, the Tornado Wrangler himself
Never seen Dial, never will.
You got a "downvote" from me for omitting that the final ending was redone AFTER the referenced OverlordDVD "Phoebe dons hat' rumors were posted, as John Williams himself has stated. Quit throwing your integrity away..
That was never true. Or is this part of the lore that whiny fans need to believe to justify their complaining? Williams never mentioned anything about Phoebe donning the hat, nor has anyone credible.
@@braytonwright6011 found the bootlicker.
Is Overlord the guy who keeps announcing that Kathleen Kennedy is about to be fired but it never happens?
@@RictusHolloweye That's the guy.
@@braytonwright6011 Okay Disney shill.
Indiana Jones finished with The Last Crusade! 🙌🏻 One of the best films ever!
It's the new alchemy, as Mangold is changed to Manlead.
I just came from the Indiana Jones Sub Reddit, where criticising this film is apparently a crime. The toxic positivity there about this movie is astounding. Don’t understand why people can’t accept that other people don’t have to like the same things they do. It’s completely fine to dislike this film, and talk about it. Just as it’s fine to enjoy it, and talk about that too.
I thought it was a poor send off for the character. I wanted to see Indiana Jones, kicking arse for the last time. But instead what we got was some unlikable character, stealing the limelight, always having the final say, never really being wrong. And Indy just doesn’t do much in this film. It’s almost like he was a side character in his own film.
1. It was too long. 2. Helena is EXTREMELY unlikeable. 3. Indy is now a broken down drunk old man who basically has a death wish which just made everything depressing. 4. After a while, I just got bored. There’s only so many action sequences you can get into until you realize that you weren’t feeling any danger and you were just watching the somewhat, (in some scenes) questionable visuals. 6. Too much CGI. A few times the de-ageing seemed off plus why spend $300 million USD when you still have a 40 year old Harrison Ford STILL sound like 80 year old Harrison Ford?! You couldn’t hire the best impersonator money can buy??? In the tuk-tuk chase, you can clearly tell it’s CGI when Indy and Helena are bickering. You can see it’s CGI a few times when Indy is on the horse, especially on the two or three close-ups of Indy’s face upwards. You can easily see that it’s a CGI background, which takes us out of the immersion. 7. Teddy is a Great Value version of Short Round, but isn’t as likable or cute. He’s almost like a younger Helena, which is awful. (I could barely stand one!) 8. The best sequence is the prologue on the train, after in 1969, it quickly becomes such a slog. 9. What happens at the end with Indy and Helena annoyed me. (She spent the entire time being so ageist and annoying that for me, I was like, “Okay, we still got 15 minutes to go, I think I’m going to dose off a little.” Because at this point, I just didn’t care anymore and I just wanted to have it be over with! 9. Was Indy ever cleared??? 10. I’m sorry but Crystal Skull is better than this imo. I enjoyed it better. Looking back, Mutt and aliens don’t look as bad anymore. (They did him dirty btw.) 11. It only made $300 million USD TOTAL! 12. Why was this necessary?! Everything goes basically back to depressing reality minus one thing by the end! I’d rather have just had Crystal Skull’s happy ending if we needed a semi recent Indy movie, just leave it at that! And 13. Why couldn’t they have brought Short Round back? He himself saw Indy as his own father figure. He could have become an archaeologist himself and reaches out to Indy, (who is happily still with Marion and who is now thriving and president of his university and who has become wealthy and semi famous after writing several books about his adventures that which would evolve into the young Indiana Jones Chronicles.) to help him on a mission and the movie goes with them instead of Helena. Plus Mutt and Indy are on good terms now, with Mutt being much maturer and wiser after all this time. Perhaps he joins too? SR and Indy can have a really touching moment somewhere in the movie too. And at the end, Indy decides to retire and Mutt announces he's going to be a father. I started thinking about it throughout the movie. Just on what could have been. God what a disappointment!
The mod over on that sub gave my 6 year old account a perma-ban for being critical about the movie. Absolutely pathetic behaviour.
Oh my god, yes. Toxic positivity is the perfect description. Fans on there are like, “This is my 18th time watching it! It just gets better and better!” Like, what?
There’s such a tribalism that comes with anyone who supports the Disney product. You can’t even say PWB was underwhelming as a sidekick without being called a misogynist.
That sub is super pedantic too, full of posts like "where can I find the belt buckle that Sallah's stunt double wore in Scene 53 of Raiders?"
$97 million in 1986 is $239 million today because of inflation. Still outrageously expensive, but to be fair...
I thought it was entertaining and Ford carried off the old guy version of Jones really well. The action scenes such as chases weren't in Spielberg's class, too confusingly edited but a good ending. It was better than the last one. Mind you the budget seems insane especially in the era of Godzilla Minus One
I’m just glad people are reevaluating KOTCS. It’s flawed yes, but it still feels like an Indy movie
The fact the Spielberg backed out of Dial of Destiny keeps me from watching it. I don't even want to give it a chance.
No one wants to see an aging hero because it makes them feel vulnerable. I for one was glad to see the reality of the impact Indy had gone through in his life and the toll it took on his life.
There are 3 Indiana Jones movies, no more no less
Denial springs eternal.
For myself, Indiana Jones ended with the last crusade. I have never watched the last two and I probably never will.
Mangold didn't "set the record straight". He lied.
So we should believe you over the guy who made the movie?
I think Dial is decent film. Ford does a good job (though I did have to suspend disbelief a bit that a 80-year old man, even one as fit as Ford, can go on big adventures, chases and fights without ending up seriously injured), there's some decent action bits and I liked seeing Marion and Sallah return. That bit where Indy talks about his regrets with Mutt was well done.
My issues is that a lot of it feels like Indiana Jones's Greatest Hits. We've got another scene of Indy disguising himself in Nazi uniform, the Nazis as villains, a kid sidekick, a fight aboard a train, a chase through North African streets, a bit with crawling animals (this time eels), Indy & Marion doing their Raiders romantic scene and so on. But this time, they feel like copies of the originals rather than standing alone for this film. I also felt the movie was too long at two and a half hrs. as an Indy movie should be around two hours at most. I didn't hate Helena Shaw like most, yet my issue was how inconsistently written her character was (one minute she's putting Indy in danger, then at the midpoint, she randomly starts helping him). I also felt the rest of the characters were all forgettable. I love Mads Mikkelsen, but felt he was wasted as the villain. Even for all their flaws, Temple of Doom and Crystal Skull had more personality, standout action scenes, some quotable dialogue and engaging characters.
Again, I liked things about it and it's not terrible, but given it's the final installment of one of cinema's greatest heroes, I expected a little better.
I flocked to see the Indiana Jones 4 movie, and I was excited about parts of it and parts of it. I really did not like I do not want to see this last one. It's like a friend that has cancer. He's about to die, and you don't want to see it happen.
What went wrong? Walt Disney Co.
"Crystal skulls, which many think are alien in nature." Then they show the goofy dude from Ancient Aliens. Buddy, he thinks everything is from aliens.
When all which have been tested have been proven to have been created here on Earth. Some in the 19th century, some in early 20th. During the same period where all other bogus things were created. Would have been interesting if they were not, but...definitely not aliens.
What happened? Phoebe Waller "killer of franchises" Bridge happened.
(long comment as I talk about a few things from the video)
_starts talking about Overlord DVD posting a video about bad test screenings_
Oh man I remember that channel, stumbled across one of their Star Wars videos a couple of years back and it felt like I was listening to a cult leader. O_o
Don't remember the topic but it was some response to something Disney/LucasFilm did with Star Wars. The way they phrased their sentences combined with the extremely calm and almost assertive tone did not sit well with me at all. He called for fans to band together against something like a boycott or maybe it was to complain/spam about the leadership at the company.
Left a couple of minutes in because I legitimately felt like I was somewhere I shouldn't be, it was the first & last time I got that feeling from a RUclips video. Somehow, I'm not surprised that the rumors about the test screenings came from that channel.
Anyways in regards to the movie itself: I said this on another RUclips video but I place a lot of the blame on the marketing as well as just Harrison Ford being so old by this point.
Leading up to Crystal Skull there was a massive push to bring the series back into relevancy especially for the next generation. The Star Wars Prequels just finished so a lot of people had their eyes on Indiana Jones for a variety of reasons. Lego sets for the series were now being made along with a video game retelling the stories which allowed a ton of kids (myself included) to get into the series. There were Halloween Costumes, cheap fedoras and toys like fake whips.
This movie had standard marketing, there was no push to make the series big again so the only reason to see the movie is if you're already a fan, and there was no cultural drive to become a fan. It was just some old character getting a new movie.
I mean no disrespect when I say this but Harrison Ford's age also played a part. In Crystal Skull he pretty much looked the same but with grey hair. He's clearly older but also clearly the same guy so any kid that likes Indiana Jones still recognized him in the role. Compare that to this movie where he looks like a grandpa and even kids would think he's too old for the role, assuming they recognize him without being told it's the same guy. This is only a problem because the budget was so huge that they needed the younger generation to see the movie. If it only cost 100M or less than it would've been fine.
The movie itself was fine and Harrison is still great in the role but it took too long to get made. Would've done better a decade ago when the franchise was still relevant.
Stupid is Correct.
The part in the movie where they mow down Roman soldiers with a machine gun had me laughing out loud
I watched the movie with my family, and my mum called the man who keeps shooting people “Trigger-Happy Trevor”, which is now what I call him.
"A random RUclipsr" is an interesting way to describe Doomock xD
Doomcock is a joke.
@@jeffreymcquillen1208 Whereas you are a legend ! 🤣🤣🤣
@@jeffreymcquillen1208 And yet he called ir. The dude has been wrong a million times, bit he was right on this one
Did he say Glasgow Italy???
It made Crystal Skull look good. Which should be impossible. It is corporate cynicism and greed congealed.
I know Indy 4 is generally derided, but I enjoyed the interplay between Indy, Marion, and Mutt
Even if one doesn't like the overall movie, there are often still aspects to enjoy.
I despise Highlander 2, but the moment where Sean Connery gives a speech, stops some whirly bladed thing and bagpipe music swells in the background... well, I did enjoy that.
The only official Indy films are the first three. Crystal Skull was fan-fiction and Dial of Destiny was a student film.
Denial springs eternal.
Dial of Destiny bothered me so much. I loved the part where they did the time travel thing. I HATED that she wouldn't just let him stay there. Like, what an ending that would have been. We never would have needed a follow-up movie
Overlord was right.
I wish Mangold made a movie about that 1969 NYC. It was the most vibrant part of the movie, and it was supposed to show Indy as a sad sack.
I liked last crusade cause of sean connery
I noticed that you didn't mention when discussing alternate ending the fact that Karen Allen has stated in interviews that she wasn't in the final film at all. That she was brought in later during re-shoots and that Mangold has admitted to there being an alternate ending that was not included as extras on home media. Which does mean he did lie about never shooting an alternate ending.
The one thing about the first 3 movies that drew people in was they faced the question of religion and long standing stories that had been around for 1000 years. the crystal skull and dial of destiny have no basis in history. Had they went for something like the spear that pierced Christ's side or some other legend from a religion then things would have went a lot better. Those things have affected people either by word or by life choices. A time machine, while fanciful , has never affected anyone or changed anyone's life.
I always imagined the ending would be Indiana Jones vs the anti-Christ using all the religious artifacts he'd collected to fight zombie Nazis.
@@Slammy555 Indiana Jones and The Curse of The Omen
They could've just recast Mutt, made him a CIA agent who searchs Indy for help and at the end of the movie Indy is introduced to his grandson
What happened.....The same thing that's happened to Star Wars....Disney
ANY project that has Waller-Bridge attached to it, is automatically something I will refuse to spend my time and money on. Bloody hell, I dislike that creature with a fiery passion.
The ending was reshot.
Indy was supposed to Die.
I wish the 4 previous films had returned to theaters, one film a week, in anticipation for 'Dial of Destiny'. I LOVE the film, I just really think that it didn't quite resonate with younger audience due to not having that brand awareness.
Ford kind of seemed like he agreed with the fans in an interview he did with James Mangold and Phoebe Waller Bridge. Ford answered the question from the interview, who asked, "what are you most afraid of?" Phoebe Waller said something like spiders, I forget what James Mangold said, and Harrison Ford said, "making a terrible movie." And he looked over to say it again to James Mangold, who didn't really catch what he said. Too bad you did put that clip in here. Kind of says it all just like Mark Hamill did with TLJ.....
Bro knew they f***ed up
88% audience score on rotten tomatoes. Its good.
I couldn’t even finish this movie. So sad. 😭
It's Almost Unwatchable.
Price tag was actually 327 million which is worse.
Once they added Waller-Bridge, the movie was doomed. If there were a re-edited version of the movie, where her role was somehow reduced greatly, you could have a good movie. Especially if there were more Karen Allen instead. Ultimately, I agree with Bumbray. The franchise should have ended with "Last Crusade", where they literally ride off into the sunset. And yes, there will be further attempts to "reboot" or "re-imagine" Indy. Similar to Margot Robbie wanting to become Captain Jack Sparrow in the next "Pirates" movie.
What do people have against Phoebe Waller-Bridge, anyway?
@@gamestation2690 She is insufferable. Smug, smarmy, snotty and coasting on the fame of something she did years ago, with nothing decent since then. The worst female Indy partner, with Kate Capshaw running a close second (her shrieking throughout the entire movie was really tiresome).
She also killed off the Bond franchise, literally 💀
Rebooted Indy , probably in 5y time, Chris Pratt as Indy set in 1930s, directed by JJ Abrams . Ford does the old man Indy introduction ..
@@bozotheclown169 No, she didn’t.
Harrison Ford shafted his characters and fans in Indiana Jones and Star Wars all for the money.
Short Round 2.0 was a misfire.
Kid was unsympathetic.
A Natural Born Criminal, Theif and Murderer.
And we're supposed to like him.
The biggest issue with this movie was how dull and uninspired it was. I’m a massive Indy fan and I wasn’t even thinking about this movie a couple days after seeing it. The original trilogy and even Crystal Skull to a lesser degree had so much energy. The stunts were real and exciting, the locations and sets all had a tangibility to them. They felt gritty and high intensity. Indy’s just going through the motions in Dial. He uses his whip one time, barely fights anyone, and spends the entire bizarre third act bleeding out on a plane. The action scenes were forgettable. There was nothing remotely close to the truck chase, mine cart bridge fight, tank chase, or even the motorcycle chase from Crystal Skull. The storyline with Indy and Marion felt incredibly contrived and far too similar to what they did with Han and Leia. For the legend, Indiana Jones, to go out in such an unceremonious way was just pretty sad.
Also, Indy 4 made 7 HUNDRED million worldwide… not 70 million. It was a massive box office hit
Although I love your channel. You need to admit the internet rumors were true. They did change the ending. John Williams confirmed it. They should never have hired Phoebe waller bridge.. she is a hardcore feminist and turns off half the country
Politics are meaningless. Tom cruise is a crazy cultist but his movies kick ass.
I liked Dial Of Destiny simply because it had all the Indiana Jones elements. Such a vibe