Hey guys, just wanted to thank you for putting in a balanced podcast. I think it's important to criticise when fair but also acknowledge the enormity of the the task. The reality for a long time world class managers have failed. There is something wrong when there is only one away win at Liverpool and Chelsea away in the last 30 odd years. It's not easy to overturn that history. What I do know is if the supporters lose faith, we will get a new manager, a few positive results, then a few negative and the cycle will repeat. This creates a legacy issue with a Frankenstein squad. When Ange taken over Brisbane Roar in the A league it was a basket case. But he made hard decisions to get rid off former EPL players as they were a bad cultural fit. Expect change over summer and you will see how ruthlessly pragmatic he can be.
💯. The squad will look radically different in a year and the ways of playing more embedded. Look at the first 35 games against the records of Lego head and Horse Teeth. Way better.
I'm pretty optimistic about next season. The two things I'd like to see from Ange though is 1) Get a clean sheet and 2) Fix our creativity issues. The guy at top left should boost his volume too.
Regarding squad depth and injuries what Spurs need to invest in the academy. We hired someone like Toure, Defoe, or Scott Parker. They used the club as a stepping stone for the next job. Get someone who is good and committed to the job long term.
I watch several other "podcasts" and I like Chris Cowlin's show a lot. However, your show offers a different feel. Keep up the focus. BTW: Don't feel sorry for Royal. That situation has persisted for 3 years and one of our managers should have "fixed" this, like moving him on before his value was $0, before the last 2 games.
Oh...and Ange must be more flexible than Poch and Conte were. Dragusin should have played that last game and VDV at left back, and Lo Celso should have been in the #10, not Kulu. That does not take a managerial license to see that it would have given us a chance TO WIN the last 2 games,..
Agree he should have been moved on, but that's not Royal's fault. He's not suited for the style of play & then was also playing on the other side. He does his best, unfortunately it's not good enough for what we want to do.
Emerson Royal was predictably exposed (as was Davies v. Arsenal) but Ange's tactical dogmatism (stubbornness ?) is now an issue. Injuries are inevitable with his high intensity system. I suspect that he requires more top quality players than Spurs will ever allow him to buy to make us really compete. So, if he starts badly next season (bearing in mind eight Europa League group games) be will be under intense pressure. Klopp (+stronger cv) and Arteta bought time in their first seasons. (Klopp: reached LC+EL Final ; Arteta : won FA Cup)
Let’s see. It’s clear Gil, Royal, Spence, Rodon, Skipp, Hoijberg, Parrot, Scarlett and Ndombele need to be sold. It’s all about who Spurs bring in to replace them.
To me the midfield has totally lost form and is being outplayed. Saw Bissouma walking back in defence when goal was being scored, when he could have prevented a shot. Laziness! Agree with Si about how Rugby has the best use of VAR. The refs ask for assistance when they require it, and are not dictated to by VAR. I think Ange is now getting a clear picture of which players need to be cut from the squad, and needs to be backed in the summer to replace them.
Yep, Rugby leads the way with VAR, much football could learn from it rather than reinventing the wheel. Agree re the squad, expecting at least 5 players out the door this summer. It’s going to be a big overhaul!
The refs are biased. It's less dispute if the big team won because they are supposed to win. Some of the top players are protected species. It's fair to say that Kane also get some favorable decisions. The refs have no problem sending some unknown player off but they will hesitate if red card is for Rodri.
Relax mate this 4 games have been tricky from the start. Even with our best form, it will be difficult nonetheless. All 4 losses arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool and Chelsea are part of the European places opposition. With some confidence and players coming back, there's optimism ahead
I think there is a stigma working against Vicario. Spurs could manage it better by putting a strong player around him when defending set pieces but also referees seem to offer him no protection because of his reputation of ‘needing to be stronger’
The BIG PICTURE is Levy hired the wrong mate...AND AP took the wrong job offer....two wrongs never make a right(DO THEY?)...all the opposition managers KNOW how to nullify Plan A(NGE)'s MateBALL...a few better players wont change much.
If you had a clue and and with your comment reaffirms that you have never played the game once implemented properly you can't defend anges system all the opposition can do is play a low block but eventually cop it
Typical Spurs fans. Conceding 13 goals in the last 4 games.... But let's talk for 15 minutes about 'unlucky' referring decisions. Regarding Ange just needing 'his players'. Ange has already brought in about 9 players. One of his signings (Dragusin) was sat on the bench while he watched Royal getting cooked by Salah. No one will say it, but the first 10 games was a new manager bounce. Just look at where we'd be in the league after that. The fan rhetoric will change from 'not enough games' this season to 'too many games' next season. Just watch. Let's face it, Spurs will win nothing again and finish 6th / 7th again next season. Then fans will be saying it's the NEXT season where we'll really kick on. *eyeroll*
9 players? I’d say his only mainstay players were Johnson, Maddison, Dragusin and Van de Ven Werner - Stop gap after we lost Solomon and Perisic to season ending injuries. Gil he has decided rightly isn’t good enough. A big upgrade on LW will be his priority this summer. Of course Royal will get cooked by Salah. He has a defensive right back playing LWB due to injuries. The alternative is Skipp and LWB. There are no real options. Realistically Ange needs 2 more summers to build a squad remotely capable of challenging for trophies. Next season we expect a similar league finish but with better performances. Not sure what your expectations are otherwise. We can’t outspend City. Liverpool and Man Utd will go big and they’re much bigger football clubs. Newcastle have a state backing them. Give the man a chance. If your expectation is him to stroll past those teams in his first season you will be, and are, utterly disappointed
@@richardjames123 you really can’t include Werner as a loan stop gap after an unexpected injury crisis or Solomon who was also free and also spent all season injured. Phillips a cheap prospect for the future who looks a good buy Kulusevski was already at the club. It was made permanent during Ange’s time but he’d only been in the door 5 minutes. He’s better than no option on RW. VdV and Maddison were good signings
@OhSoSpurs Look it up, Kulu was an Ange approved signing. I didn't and still don't think Kulu fits Ange's system. I want to trust Ange, but I don't trust his signings. I'm not the one talking about title challenges. Ange is. If the club won't invest in the right quality players, he needs to stop talking. Having said that, as one of the richest clubs in the country, we could absolutely spend competitively with the likes of Arsenal. However, we have the added problem that on the odd occasion we do push the boat out, we invest in the wrong players, ie. Ndombele and Richarlison. This hasn't changed under Paratici. Rinse and repeat. Nothing new here. Ange will grow tired of the club's poor investment or the fans will grow tired of Ange's tactics with inferior quality players.
@@richardjames123 Johan Lange is in charge of transfers and we do spend in line? We have the leagues 5th most revenue and have spent the 4th most on transfers since the stadium opened. Kulu was approved by Ange, I agreed with you but he was already here on loan, wasn’t expensive and Ange had only been here 5 minutes. Recouping his fee won’t be difficult.
This over hyped manager is clearly not coaching the defensive side - he won't last past December. I wouldn't trust him with the transfer budget based on the crap he has signed like johnson and werner
I think it is too soon to write off Johnson, he has already improved a lot since the start of the season imo. Also while I agree we shouldn't sign him permanently, Werner was an opportunistic free hit loan, who has contributed with quite a few goal contributions.
The only crap he signed even on loan are Werner , Johnston to and a point Vicario, best for some time vdv and playing very seldom Dragusin ho's not bad the others Ange inherent
Werner has had a goal involvement every other game. 2 goals, 3 assists and 2 forced own goals from 13 appearances, 10 starts. Not too shabby. Johnson, 13 goal involvements from 32 appearances, 23 starts. Again first season, new team, new system not too shabby so before we start slating players we should get the data right
@@dutchgrass his goalkeeper, not bad ,but the boss over his area ,poor only afterwards he will scold his defenders , every Tom dic and Harry will harass Vicario in corner kicks against Spurs ,just a tuch on his arm by Ben White, just look into Vic's face you'll see how he looks , saves he make , kicking out of hand , ball on the pitch kicking out non existing, knowing your ,Liverpool, Arsenals, Newcastle's , Everton's ,Fulham and all know how too rush Spurs playing out from the back Vic has no counter ????
Ange won't change his philosophy. So why do people expect things to change? It doesn't matter if you had Viera and Rio in this team you will concede 60 goals every season with this moronic high line. Ange will be sacked next season.
Ange might not change his philosophy and if that’s the case then the personell needs to change, whether it is mental change or physical change. The next stage of developing this team is to ground that midfield so the back line has the right protection and it will come good. No doubt in my mind
Thanks Lads. Civilised discourse as always. Rick (currently en route to Cork)
Safe trip to Cork Rick! Thanks for tuning in 💪
Clocking up the air miles!
@@dutchgrass too true. Heading to Cornwall for a few weeks on Sunday. Will watch the Saturday match in Dublin at the Spurs supporters pub.
It's so refreshing to listen to a toxic free podcast TRUST I ANGE LADS HE WILL DELIVER YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK
Thanks for the kind words 🙂 COYS
Definitely. 2nd priority is a clinical 9 to push Richie
Hey guys, just wanted to thank you for putting in a balanced podcast. I think it's important to criticise when fair but also acknowledge the enormity of the the task.
The reality for a long time world class managers have failed. There is something wrong when there is only one away win at Liverpool and Chelsea away in the last 30 odd years.
It's not easy to overturn that history. What I do know is if the supporters lose faith, we will get a new manager, a few positive results, then a few negative and the cycle will repeat.
This creates a legacy issue with a Frankenstein squad.
When Ange taken over Brisbane Roar in the A league it was a basket case. But he made hard decisions to get rid off former EPL players as they were a bad cultural fit.
Expect change over summer and you will see how ruthlessly pragmatic he can be.
Thanks Vaz! Roll on the summer. Ready for a ruthless Ange clear out! COYS
💯. The squad will look radically different in a year and the ways of playing more embedded. Look at the first 35 games against the records of Lego head and Horse Teeth. Way better.
I'm pretty optimistic about next season. The two things I'd like to see from Ange though is 1) Get a clean sheet and 2) Fix our creativity issues. The guy at top left should boost his volume too.
With you there. We need a better 6 and an upgrade on the LW urgently. Not to forget a natural wing back as cover for Porro and Udogie. COYS
Regarding squad depth and injuries what Spurs need to invest in the academy. We hired someone like Toure, Defoe, or Scott Parker. They used the club as a stepping stone for the next job. Get someone who is good and committed to the job long term.
The recruitment team will be looking at multiple channels to build a sustainable talent pipeline. One of those HAS to be youth development for sure
I watch several other "podcasts" and I like Chris Cowlin's show a lot. However, your show offers a different feel. Keep up the focus.
BTW: Don't feel sorry for Royal. That situation has persisted for 3 years and one of our managers should have "fixed" this, like moving him on before his value was $0, before the last 2 games.
Oh...and Ange must be more flexible than Poch and Conte were. Dragusin should have played that last game and VDV at left back, and Lo Celso should have been in the #10, not Kulu. That does not take a managerial license to see that it would have given us a chance TO WIN the last 2 games,..
Agree he should have been moved on, but that's not Royal's fault. He's not suited for the style of play & then was also playing on the other side. He does his best, unfortunately it's not good enough for what we want to do.
Thanks Scott!
Agree, he needs to be sold
All aligned on the Royal question. Great person, hard worker, decent defensive right back, can’t play in this system. Shake hands and move on
Emerson Royal was predictably exposed (as was Davies v. Arsenal) but Ange's tactical dogmatism (stubbornness ?) is now an issue. Injuries are inevitable with his high intensity system. I suspect that he requires more top quality players than Spurs will ever allow him to buy to make us really compete. So, if he starts badly next season (bearing in mind eight Europa League group games) be will be under intense pressure.
Klopp (+stronger cv) and Arteta bought time in their first seasons. (Klopp: reached LC+EL Final ; Arteta : won FA Cup)
Let’s see. It’s clear Gil, Royal, Spence, Rodon, Skipp, Hoijberg, Parrot, Scarlett and Ndombele need to be sold. It’s all about who Spurs bring in to replace them.
I agree, a bad start next season will really test the mettle of the board and the fans
# Carroll clawing the ball out of the Man U goal
# Lasagne gate
# Moussa Sisoko, so called handball in the Champion League Final.
All coming flooding back. Also coming 4th and not getting Champions League football
To me the midfield has totally lost form and is being outplayed. Saw Bissouma walking back in defence when goal was being scored, when he could have prevented a shot. Laziness! Agree with Si about how Rugby has the best use of VAR. The refs ask for assistance when they require it, and are not dictated to by VAR. I think Ange is now getting a clear picture of which players need to be cut from the squad, and needs to be backed in the summer to replace them.
Yep, Rugby leads the way with VAR, much football could learn from it rather than reinventing the wheel.
Agree re the squad, expecting at least 5 players out the door this summer. It’s going to be a big overhaul!
Wouldn’t it ironic if we beat Man City and in so doing hand Arsenal the Premiership… 😳😏🤔
The refs are biased. It's less dispute if the big team won because they are supposed to win. Some of the top players are protected species. It's fair to say that Kane also get some favorable decisions. The refs have no problem sending some unknown player off but they will hesitate if red card is for Rodri.
More common sense and impeccable logic but please ask Si to not do the next show on a trampoline , I felt a bit queasy at the end.
😂😂😂 we will pass on the message
It’s a trampette not a trampoline!!!!! Couldn’t fit the latter in the loft space!!!! Feedback received loud and clear 😂
Our recent form has left me too sad to comment 😢
We bring good cheer!
Relax mate this 4 games have been tricky from the start. Even with our best form, it will be difficult nonetheless. All 4 losses arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool and Chelsea are part of the European places opposition. With some confidence and players coming back, there's optimism ahead
2 wins from our last 3, a good summer window & we go again!
AT LAST.... You are oppening you'r eyes.
For years now,it has been fixed against Spurs.
😅
I’ve seen the light😂😂😂😂😂
By getting cleaned sheets , Spurs needs a stronger goalkeeper ho can manup in his box against aggressive attackers and Marshalling his defense
I think there is a stigma working against Vicario. Spurs could manage it better by putting a strong player around him when defending set pieces but also referees seem to offer him no protection because of his reputation of ‘needing to be stronger’
Vicario just needs the same protection from refs that raya, Allison , etc get.
Wouldn’t it be cringingly ironic if we beat or held Man City to a draw and thus handed Arsenal the Premiership…😳😏🤔
It would be incredibly Tottenham which means that’s inevitable 😅
Please no!!!! Wouldn’t it just about sum up our luck
The BIG PICTURE is Levy hired the wrong mate...AND AP took the wrong job offer....two wrongs never make a right(DO THEY?)...all the opposition managers KNOW how to nullify Plan A(NGE)'s MateBALL...a few better players wont change much.
I bet your misses left you for an Aussie
If you had a clue and and with your comment reaffirms that you have never played the game once implemented properly you can't defend anges system all the opposition can do is play a low block but eventually cop it
@@lemilemi5385 Born in Paddington Sydney MATE, about 5ks from where GuvNa Phhillip started NSW, which we called ORSTRRAAAALIA later
@@peterkehagias LOL, yeah I know...Whats the numbers in AngeBall formula of late, hows he set up...4..3...2..4
@@palaneproductions7357 then she must have left you for a Greek
Typical Spurs fans. Conceding 13 goals in the last 4 games.... But let's talk for 15 minutes about 'unlucky' referring decisions.
Regarding Ange just needing 'his players'. Ange has already brought in about 9 players. One of his signings (Dragusin) was sat on the bench while he watched Royal getting cooked by Salah.
No one will say it, but the first 10 games was a new manager bounce. Just look at where we'd be in the league after that.
The fan rhetoric will change from 'not enough games' this season to 'too many games' next season. Just watch. Let's face it, Spurs will win nothing again and finish 6th / 7th again next season. Then fans will be saying it's the NEXT season where we'll really kick on. *eyeroll*
9 players?
I’d say his only mainstay players were Johnson, Maddison, Dragusin and Van de Ven
Werner - Stop gap after we lost Solomon and Perisic to season ending injuries. Gil he has decided rightly isn’t good enough. A big upgrade on LW will be his priority this summer.
Of course Royal will get cooked by Salah. He has a defensive right back playing LWB due to injuries. The alternative is Skipp and LWB. There are no real options.
Realistically Ange needs 2 more summers to build a squad remotely capable of challenging for trophies. Next season we expect a similar league finish but with better performances.
Not sure what your expectations are otherwise. We can’t outspend City. Liverpool and Man Utd will go big and they’re much bigger football clubs. Newcastle have a state backing them.
Give the man a chance. If your expectation is him to stroll past those teams in his first season you will be, and are, utterly disappointed
@@OhSoSpurs
Kulusevski
Maddison
Solomon
Philips
Veliz
Vicario
Johnson
Werner
Dragusin
@@richardjames123 you really can’t include Werner as a loan stop gap after an unexpected injury crisis or Solomon who was also free and also spent all season injured.
Phillips a cheap prospect for the future who looks a good buy
Kulusevski was already at the club. It was made permanent during Ange’s time but he’d only been in the door 5 minutes. He’s better than no option on RW.
VdV and Maddison were good signings
@OhSoSpurs Look it up, Kulu was an Ange approved signing. I didn't and still don't think Kulu fits Ange's system. I want to trust Ange, but I don't trust his signings.
I'm not the one talking about title challenges. Ange is. If the club won't invest in the right quality players, he needs to stop talking.
Having said that, as one of the richest clubs in the country, we could absolutely spend competitively with the likes of Arsenal. However, we have the added problem that on the odd occasion we do push the boat out, we invest in the wrong players, ie. Ndombele and Richarlison. This hasn't changed under Paratici.
Rinse and repeat. Nothing new here. Ange will grow tired of the club's poor investment or the fans will grow tired of Ange's tactics with inferior quality players.
@@richardjames123 Johan Lange is in charge of transfers and we do spend in line? We have the leagues 5th most revenue and have spent the 4th most on transfers since the stadium opened.
Kulu was approved by Ange, I agreed with you but he was already here on loan, wasn’t expensive and Ange had only been here 5 minutes. Recouping his fee won’t be difficult.
This over hyped manager is clearly not coaching the defensive side - he won't last past December. I wouldn't trust him with the transfer budget based on the crap he has signed like johnson and werner
I think it is too soon to write off Johnson, he has already improved a lot since the start of the season imo. Also while I agree we shouldn't sign him permanently, Werner was an opportunistic free hit loan, who has contributed with quite a few goal contributions.
The only crap he signed even on loan are Werner , Johnston to and a point Vicario, best for some time vdv and playing very seldom Dragusin ho's not bad the others Ange inherent
@@benjaminsolomon3918 doubting Vicario?!
Werner has had a goal involvement every other game. 2 goals, 3 assists and 2 forced own goals from 13 appearances, 10 starts. Not too shabby.
Johnson, 13 goal involvements from 32 appearances, 23 starts. Again first season, new team, new system not too shabby so before we start slating players we should get the data right
@@dutchgrass his goalkeeper, not bad ,but the boss over his area ,poor only afterwards he will scold his defenders , every Tom dic and Harry will harass Vicario in corner kicks against Spurs ,just a tuch on his arm by Ben White, just look into Vic's face you'll see how he looks , saves he make , kicking out of hand , ball on the pitch kicking out non existing, knowing your ,Liverpool, Arsenals, Newcastle's , Everton's ,Fulham and all know how too rush Spurs playing out from the back Vic has no counter ????
Ange won't change his philosophy. So why do people expect things to change?
It doesn't matter if you had Viera and Rio in this team you will concede 60 goals every season with this moronic high line.
Ange will be sacked next season.
Ange might not change his philosophy and if that’s the case then the personell needs to change, whether it is mental change or physical change. The next stage of developing this team is to ground that midfield so the back line has the right protection and it will come good. No doubt in my mind
@@simonbestford7436 there hasn't been a manager in Premier league history that has been successful with these tactics.
@@kinggeoffrey3801 that is what people said about Pep