YES!. Fully loaded cattle truck. Is pulled. On a gravel road. Up some incline - ruclips.net/video/14yiPCAcSXg/видео.html. In another instance. A jack-knifed low bed. Loaded with a sizable front end loader. Is straightened and pulled - ruclips.net/video/Hj53_vq1M3o/видео.html. Also up a slanted road. Seeing. Only. Is believing! 300 SW/fuel tanker. In the mud - ruclips.net/video/V0MFUELc8aY/видео.html. Troopy/Truck in mud - ruclips.net/video/HQT-Wj_oTAk/видео.html. 70/truch in mud - ruclips.net/video/UyVFaUbFT0Y/видео.html. Seen a 2,8l Hulux creating miracles as well.. but with a tarred road's assistance. each for his own. Regards. S Africa.
I never liked the the V8 but I did wish they would add two more cylinders to the current 4cyl to give us a new modern straight 6. If BMW and Merc can still make great Straight 6 diesels there is no reason Toyota cant except that they are lazy and milking us. I still think the old HDFTE is the best land cruiser engine ever. But for now I think the 4cyl is great. Went to test drive it and its the first Land Cruiser in a while I liked again. Kinda reminds me of my dads old KZTE land cruiser.
Honestly the new gen3 1gd is a great engine as far as 4 cyl modern common rail diesels go Thinking of it now, it could be a excellent base platform for a inline 6. Would even turn out to be a 4.2 litre like the old 6s
Im a valuer in heavy yellow plant and equipment. I have some major mining clients. In 2022 i had discussions with a manager re their fleet of v8 70, no 200s, no 300s but also Hilux and prado. I asked why. He said they have severe dusting issues with 200/300 less of an issue in prado and hilux. All the 70s had after market airboxes but the cost of engine replacement as well as supply/maintenance was a major problem. I asked what the solution was. He said “we would like to see the 2.8/auto and pedestrian safety improvements in a new 70. Better fuel economy, better safety, less costs eg 4 injectors not 8 etc. and here we are. I sold my last v8 last year and bought my first hilux after having owned 40,60,80,100,200,300 78, 79x5 v8s (still own a lovely fj45) Hated the 300. Hated it. What about fhe hilux? Can inlive with the 2.8? 💯. In fact im struggling with the concept of stepping back into a 70. Apart from suspension (and the fact these mid range utes should never be 3.5 towing), im pretty happy. Lol. Great report btw
Been towing a 3T trailer and now would NOT go back to a prehistoric manual having to lug a heavy load with a roaring engine and now think it would be torture going back to changing gears. Absolutely love the auto 2.8 its an absolute pleasure and suits me perfectly. Weekend Hauling just became a whole lot less stressful at the same time as owning an iconic 70 series.
I’m still not sold.. if I was in the market for a new Toyota I would now swing to the 300. Still scratching my head why the V6 didn’t end up in the 70, but I think it may one day…
Hi Mark, what do you love about it? The lack of power, lack of reliability, lack of money you will have after buying it or lack of 4x4ing ability as they are SHIT HOUSE
@@Andrew-hu1bx Maybe. Or perhaps. Saving three or four litres of fuel per 100km. @3. 18,000 litres over a 600,000km period. The sheer enjoyment of a V8 for me.
@@mrsizzle3201 Gee…420k is good going. Being a2018 it will have the DPF fix. Any issues with injectors and timing chain? I have a 2019 Prado, so just trying to keep on top of any potential issues. Cheers
Regular oil changes-synthetic and right spec oil and the right catch cans like provent ,diff oils like Redline Shockproof , care to avoid dusting the engine will all go a long way to make the 2.8 long lasting. Whether it’s going to be as engaging as the V8- that’s for you to decide.
The 4 cylinder is more powerful and economical. Why would you want a v8 when the smaller motor is better? I don't have either, I have the old 1 hd-fte and they kick v8's arses
They have taken the decision lightly. If they had put more thought into it, they would have transitioned ALL Landcruiser to the same base straight 6. As has Mercedes, BMW, Mazda with some of their models. I just can’t see the output being enough for the fully loaded.
With the year it's been on the market, seems to be a lot of positive reviews and feedback that it can handle the heavy load. However, whether it still can down the track with more KMs on the engine and worn components is the real question
What you should have been whinging about is the loss of the 1HD-FTE in 70 series, a far superior engine to the V8. Some would say the best engine ever made by Toyota.
@@trickster8635 The 1HD-FTE is the best landcruiser engine that has ever been built, I find it hilarious that uneducated people actually try compare the 1VD to even a 1HZ hahaha. The V8 is absolute crap!
The only thing that worries me about is the "the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long" factor. These engines were made to perform at a higher level than most (which the 4cyl now does), and last in many cases, decades - so surely the 4 cylinder is working harder to perform at the same level? Will they burn out years before the older, simpler diesel engines like the vd, hd-fte or the kz/kd-fte? Will the tech used to make them perform end up being an expensive (possibly unreliable off road) nuisance that eliminates the benefits of 'downsizing'? Those are my two questions.
Yeah definitely the biggest debate there. Heat is what is going to test this engine. Now whilst they are new and fresh - not a problem! But down the line? Time will tell. However the Prado’s and Holiday,s have seemed fine over the last 8/9 years, so surely this will mean the same for the 70.
Modern engines are much better. Even engines such as the 1hd was 20 years behind what was available. Oils, machining and materials are much better. Many diesel engines have been running steel pistons for a long time, mass production is behind in many ways. Just think, Other than electronics, F1 technology that is being used in 2024 was being used back in the 1940s in Germany. Car engines are very far behind. They don't even incorporate ceramics yet, except ball bearings in turbo chargers. Oils that we use now are okay, but compared to jet oil, we could do a service every 50,000k.
The 2.8 has been proven, we have plenty running around the pit in the Pilbara with over 400k with relatively low issues. Also the mines don’t want manuals, Rio Tinto isn’t buying any manuals past 2026 for their fleets
I think everyone is getting a bit wound up over the 4cyl reliablity vs the v8. The V8 was never a crazy unlikabke engine in the first place and the easy of maintenance on the 4cyl will help its longevity aswell
Good luck with the 2.8, just had our work Hilux have the DPF replaced at 160,000km, and my old mans recently purchased second hand Hilux needed its DPF changed out at 30,000km. The combination of emissions hardware and all the electronics that will be the first thing to fail as the kms mount up. You won’t see old GDJ cruisers still running in the bush in 30 years in the same way you see HZJ75s & 79s today
They haven't fixed the rear axle in the 2.8L auto, so doubt that will be the case in the manual. The gearing will be different so hopefully it has good enough decent down hill.
I'm 55 and ordered a 2.8 single cab. When your older you get over the clutch pedal. I am lost about the track and at this stage and looking at the Dwiz. Any helpful coments? I like the front bar on that troopy, what is it?
We deal with the JMACX rear track conversations here personally, which is also fitted to the PDP 79 Series - never had a problem. As for the bar, I believe it is an off-road Animal one. - PDP Team
@@PerthDieselPerformance Replacing the rear axle is the ultimate solution, but what a cost! I solved mine with offset rims. Negative 25mm on the rear axle, so that fixes most of the issue whilst still being legal (cannot increase the track more then 50mm without it being engineered). Spare has zero offset, so it can be used front and rear. If you've got the cash, then DWiz or JMACZ is the best option, but sadly couldn't afford that route. BTW - The rims I used were King Wheels 5x150 PCD 16"x8" Hurricane II.
My 3.4litre 4cylinder turbo 13bt 1989 still going never wanted a V8. I would have wanted a 6inline. I will like the 4cylinder but manual what else would I do driving in dirt otherwise ?
I like your take on it. Currently the only 4x4s on the market with AdBlue to my knowledge is the Ineos Grenadier and the latest Triton. Wonder how they will go. And when we could expect to see it in future in other vehicles with the way emission laws are going. - PDP Team
@@PerthDieselPerformance Here in the UK all diesels have adblue now, they have done for a few years. Even on tractors and excavators. Any diesel engine over 25hp has to have it! It will soon be mandatory for you too I suspect. I have a grenadier and it does about 8000 miles on a tank so it’s not too bad. My 200hp tractor uses loads! I’m getting it deleted on the tractor as there is no mandatory testing on tractors. I need someone to make a delete program for the grenadier though, one that can be re instated once a year for the MOT though, a smartphone app would be ideal. My issue with adblue is that if the system fails the car will not start, even though it could still be driven the software wont allow it. I’m happy to do my bit for the environment but not if it leaves me stranded in the middle of nowhere.
Yes, I sold my turbo 6 cruiser with 160k on it and moved into a Ram 5.7 couldn't be happier. Had the cruiser for 13 years and sold it for 24k more than I purchased it for. Ram is so much better to drive, ride in and actually tows a tad better too. Wouldn't want a new diesel with all the issues they have now.
Don't think it ever will. Unless laws become so strict that all new vehicles must be hybrid, though that to happen anytime soon in Australia? Yeah don't see that happening. - PDP Team
I don't know why Toyota didn't back the 6 cylinder diesel as is available in other markets. It will be interesting how it copes with towing long term! It's a little engine that has the boost wound up to push in more air & fuel to create the power. They don't have the best long term reliability in the Prado.
The 6cyl would be ideal and I’m sure Toyota would still sell them here if they can but the crash safety is the biggest issue, you have no crumple zone with a long 6 cylinder
I remember the turbo charged 750cc motor bikes. You do not see any anymore, the 1100ccs of the time are still going. To make power etc by turbo shortens the life of an engine.
@@Cappuccino-ph7rp Yep & watch em sky rocket in value as everyone scrambles to grab em before they are gone. Dinosaurs they maybe called but they will out live alot of other engines if taken care of.
@@Cappuccino-ph7rp Keep dreaming mate, the V8 struggles unbelievably compared to the inline 6’s. V8’s torque displacement are absolutely not favourable for a tow rig where as inline 6’s produce much better low down torque and longevity
The 2.8 is a good engine but in this case and also for the v8, just another band aid solution, the straight sixes are still made for foreign markets, a modern version of the 1HD-FTE outputting 175kw/600nm should have been the way to go. For the 2.8 with the manual gearbox, toyota don't have a gearbox in there parts bin for the 500nm, so they took the lazy solution and reduced the 2.8's torque to suit a current gearbox, we should demand better from toyota
Pity Toyota did not put the V6 in the 70 series would be awesome. Longevity of the 4 cylinder is a worry for me. Mining company's want manuals because it is easy to lock them in low gear for mining site use.
I work on one of the big 3 Mining Company's minesites in WA as a HV and LV tyre fitter. I can assure you that the majority of day to day mining vehicles rarely travel with less than highway pressure or get put in 4wd even when off the black top. When conditions call for 4H or 4L the pit is usually shut down and no one drives in those conditions because of 'safety issues.' The majority of 70 series Landcruisers or any other Toyota 4WD vehicles as preferred by mining companies do most of their work at Highway pressures and in 4H. So the moral of the story is never buy an ex miner!!
Yes, however the manual will not be released in a single cab or wagon variant - so are mining companies enquiring on the auto's then if Toyota have decided to not have these variants as a manual?
So this is just my 2 cents. The V8 is a bit overrated in my opinion, however, I do get why people are sceptical of the 4cyc offering from Toyota on such a big vehicle. Why not just offered us a V6 or better yet, an inline 6 option? And if the answer is due to regs, then ok, why not offer a hybrid option? Toyota is a leader in hybrid technology and packaging. I'll be much more please with some hybrid assist to help the small 2.8L.
Still early for hybrid technology in 4WD, especially remote areas. Only now starting to be introduced into market from other manufacturers. Time will tell
@@Andrew-hu1bx Mate you are wrong again! I have guys asking me weekly to buy mine & more than what I paid for it. You really have thing for the V8 landcrusier don't you, can't afford one eh! Never mind at least you are a Toyota fan boy so you can't be totally wrong.
I grew up in dads truck and that V8, that V8 is what made the 70. Dont think they will sell many. Like taking the LS away from the commodore or the Cummins away from dodge. Its lost its soul. no thank I will buy something else.
Give me a 2UZ in auto or manual in a new 76 and I will happily go into debt. It will be hard work getting me out of my UZJ100. Would rather buy a second one lol.
At the beginning in your statistics you mention 346742 units where brought to Australia previously compare with 171010 units, it has been like that for a while, if you back track the records, was since the V8's come out in 2007 the mines did rejected the V8 versions as V8 was taken the diesel fitters to long to keep them on duty with the daily task, as you mention the gear box bell housing issue the got the clutches and trow-out bearings wearing prematurely and stopping them to be in long service, for diesel fitters the simple task of replacing the starter motor was getting the diesel mechanics behind schedule with the mine side daily duties as was taken way to long to perform simple jobs, many mine specs did request to Toyota since them to build them in with the old trusty 6 inline turbos as was reliable, easy to fix, unbreakable plus keep the mine running smoothly and fitters happy, is one of the reason the records show less V8 import to Australia as the mines buy them a lot
Because it comes out "de-tuned", as many would describe - this is what keeps it so reliable! But also why many tune their 70s. Keep in mind, you lose a bit of reliability when pushing more boost.
@@PerthDieselPerformance They need to keep the rear axle width due to the Troopy/76 rear bodywork. Otherwise they'd have to make the rear body wider. If they only sold 79s then it would be an easy fix.
This will drive up old land cruiser price through the roof,us Australian love v,8 The 6 cylinder diesel motor are bulletproof,I hope Australian by less land cruiser,and teach Toyota a lesson,we are not interested in this bull crap.Australian has to start stand up,Your got trucks with add blue,tractor with add blue,I had a recall on my Toyota about muffler,I think they called it d.p.f😅.enough is enough.
The V8 is looked at with rose tinted glasses. Its not a remarkable engine in anyway aside from the noise it makes. Its not amazingly reliably. It made rubbish power and average torque. It uses fuel like its going out of fashion. But my god it sounds awsome with the right exhaust
@@Andrew-hu1bx nah mate, I know to well. Diesel mechanic by trade. Proper big shit diesel , so I know them quite well. As for leaving town, the only place I haven’t been is West Australia. You plonked with your prehistoric freakin Land Cuusers and Patrols and other equally rubbish don’t know how #hit they are and how there is much better choices.
I work at a Toyota dealership! It’s no surprise that the 8 has gone! It was written on the wall for sometime actually. The V8 engine is a dinosaur now and it just wasn’t meeting emissions standards so out it went. There has already been a comparison video made between the new auto 4 cylinder and the V8 and on the dyno,with both vehicles stock,the new 4 banger made 20 hp more than the V8! Not much sure but more nonetheless. Still it will be thirsty averaging around 14 litres per 100 klm. But I imagine the die hard cruiser fans won’t care about this. I believe the new engine is prado based so it is a proven unit so should be hassle free?
The 2.8L will always push more figures out on a dyno when it's pushing more boost. The V8s come out with such little boost (with fair reason of extra longevity and reliability), the V8 engine can be pushed a lot more than what the 2.8L already is pushing.
Was a gutless v8 from the get go,who cares😅a LS CONVERSION AUTO WOULD GET THE SAME FEUL RANGE 😅2.8 IS CRAP ON FEUL,,,,,,!,,,,,,, TO,THEY NEED A HYBRID,,,,,,,, THAT USES 4 TO 6 LITRES PER 100KM,,,,,,SOME ONE SWÀP IN A PRIUS AND CAMRY HYBRID
Dont know why they didn't just keep the good old 6 cylinder diesel going same with nissan why nissan didn't make a good version of the td 42 even though its still a good motor
Ram and Silverado would have to be happy with this call from Toyota
Grew up dreaming of a V8 Cruiser and wouldn't go near a 2.8.
Might as well buy a Hilux...people buy the 70 series primarily for their V8 engines...
I certainly didn't.
Buy a 70 series for its rugged build and rural workhorse longevity.
@@markwinter7511 That's certainly a huge positive factor to the 70 Series. Despite being "ancient" technology, can always count on it to not fail!
@@PerthDieselPerformance The GVM on a Hilux doesn't come close.
Makes my 100 series worth 200 now, 😂
YES!.
Fully loaded cattle truck. Is pulled. On a gravel road. Up some incline - ruclips.net/video/14yiPCAcSXg/видео.html. In another instance. A jack-knifed low bed. Loaded with a sizable front end loader. Is straightened and pulled - ruclips.net/video/Hj53_vq1M3o/видео.html. Also up a slanted road. Seeing. Only. Is believing! 300 SW/fuel tanker. In the mud - ruclips.net/video/V0MFUELc8aY/видео.html. Troopy/Truck in mud - ruclips.net/video/HQT-Wj_oTAk/видео.html. 70/truch in mud - ruclips.net/video/UyVFaUbFT0Y/видео.html. Seen a 2,8l Hulux creating miracles as well.. but with a tarred road's assistance. each for his own. Regards. S Africa.
I never liked the the V8 but I did wish they would add two more cylinders to the current 4cyl to give us a new modern straight 6. If BMW and Merc can still make great Straight 6 diesels there is no reason Toyota cant except that they are lazy and milking us. I still think the old HDFTE is the best land cruiser engine ever. But for now I think the 4cyl is great. Went to test drive it and its the first Land Cruiser in a while I liked again. Kinda reminds me of my dads old KZTE land cruiser.
Honestly the new gen3 1gd is a great engine as far as 4 cyl modern common rail diesels go
Thinking of it now, it could be a excellent base platform for a inline 6. Would even turn out to be a 4.2 litre like the old 6s
The new shape 70s are still available with 1hz in Africa
@@GQjuz mine sites in australia still buy them for offroad use on site over the newer 4.5
Im a valuer in heavy yellow plant and equipment. I have some major mining clients. In 2022 i had discussions with a manager re their fleet of v8 70, no 200s, no 300s but also Hilux and prado. I asked why.
He said they have severe dusting issues with 200/300 less of an issue in prado and hilux. All the 70s had after market airboxes but the cost of engine replacement as well as supply/maintenance was a major problem. I asked what the solution was. He said “we would like to see the 2.8/auto and pedestrian safety improvements in a new 70. Better fuel economy, better safety, less costs eg 4 injectors not 8 etc. and here we are.
I sold my last v8 last year and bought my first hilux after having owned 40,60,80,100,200,300 78, 79x5 v8s (still own a lovely fj45)
Hated the 300. Hated it. What about fhe hilux? Can inlive with the 2.8? 💯. In fact im struggling with the concept of stepping back into a 70. Apart from suspension (and the fact these mid range utes should never be 3.5 towing), im pretty happy. Lol. Great report btw
What are the reasons you disliked the 300?
Been towing a 3T trailer and now would NOT go back to a prehistoric manual having to lug a heavy load with a roaring engine and now think it would be torture going back to changing gears.
Absolutely love the auto 2.8 its an absolute pleasure and suits me perfectly.
Weekend Hauling just became a whole lot less stressful at the same time as owning an iconic 70 series.
Manual is such hard work on the frèeway
@@lynblisso2880 The 2.8L I absolutely shits all over the Dinosaur V8 1VD
@@lynblisso2880 we will see after 700 k
Now try towing with a y62
You'll never buy another woke joke
@@Andrew-hu1bxpity you own a haval
I’m still not sold.. if I was in the market for a new Toyota I would now swing to the 300. Still scratching my head why the V6 didn’t end up in the 70, but I think it may one day…
I thought the same thing, why the V6 didnt go into the 70, they should do a Hilux with the V6.....
@@brightonXIV That's actually not a bad idea! Would be a direct competitor to the V6 Ranger.
@@PerthDieselPerformance
If Toyota doesn't do it.
Might be a new PDP thing?!.?
Hilux V6 conerversions!!???
I’m glad I got my V8 this year, absolutely love it
Glad to hear mate!! Got many plans for it?
A manual version is some consolation.
Although.
To match a V8.
Are two of those screaming little 2.8s. Required. Per wheel!
Hi Mark, what do you love about it? The lack of power, lack of reliability, lack of money you will have after buying it or lack of 4x4ing ability as they are SHIT HOUSE
@@Andrew-hu1bx
Maybe. Or perhaps. Saving three or four litres of fuel per 100km. @3. 18,000 litres over a 600,000km period.
The sheer enjoyment of a V8 for me.
@@antonhuman8446 Don't listen to that MR hu1bx troll, probably a kid that doesn't even have his licence yet, he trolls anyone with a V8 crusier.
Was not interested in the least in this vehicle, until a manual was confirmed!
The manual is exciting!!! Keen to see how it will perform.
Longevity is the big question on the 2.8 when it's tasked with heavy load.
Agreed.
I bought one and don't think you will 500 000km out of it. So I will enjoy what I get out of it.
This 2.8 has been in the 200 series hino trucks and coaster buses for 8 years and are still going
Just hit 420k in my 2018 hilux towing 3t van. No issues yet
@@mrsizzle3201 Gee…420k is good going. Being a2018 it will have the DPF fix. Any issues with injectors and timing chain? I have a 2019 Prado, so just trying to keep on top of any potential issues.
Cheers
Regular oil changes-synthetic and right spec oil and the right catch cans like provent ,diff oils like Redline Shockproof , care to avoid dusting the engine will all go a long way to make the 2.8 long lasting.
Whether it’s going to be as engaging as the V8- that’s for you to decide.
Cannot beat the V8
Yup!
Only the 5.7 blows head gaskets, 4.7 will go forever.
Nothing like the vdj. All these guys sticking up for this emission pleaser 4 banger makes me sick.
The 4 cylinder is more powerful and economical. Why would you want a v8 when the smaller motor is better? I don't have either, I have the old 1 hd-fte and they kick v8's arses
@@EYE50MM😂 yes you can, it’s called another landcruiser engine
They have taken the decision lightly. If they had put more thought into it, they would have transitioned ALL Landcruiser to the same base straight 6. As has Mercedes, BMW, Mazda with some of their models.
I just can’t see the output being enough for the fully loaded.
With the year it's been on the market, seems to be a lot of positive reviews and feedback that it can handle the heavy load. However, whether it still can down the track with more KMs on the engine and worn components is the real question
When are they going to make the front and rear axles the same track?
Never 😂
What you should have been whinging about is the loss of the 1HD-FTE in 70 series, a far superior engine to the V8. Some would say the best engine ever made by Toyota.
Trav also agrees with this and mentioned it during the interview segment with Ronny!
@@trickster8635 The 1HD-FTE is the best landcruiser engine that has ever been built, I find it hilarious that uneducated people actually try compare the 1VD to even a 1HZ hahaha. The V8 is absolute crap!
Agreed m8@@Andrew-hu1bx
@Andrew-hu1bx gotten 900000kms off of the 1HDFTE
So many turncoats, makes me sick to see how influenced they are by the dollar.
This is pure unbiased opinion. Not a single dollar influences us in sharing our opinion and advice. - PDP Team
@@PerthDieselPerformance Of course your not but maybe not true for others.
The only thing that worries me about is the "the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long" factor. These engines were made to perform at a higher level than most (which the 4cyl now does), and last in many cases, decades - so surely the 4 cylinder is working harder to perform at the same level?
Will they burn out years before the older, simpler diesel engines like the vd, hd-fte or the kz/kd-fte?
Will the tech used to make them perform end up being an expensive (possibly unreliable off road) nuisance that eliminates the benefits of 'downsizing'?
Those are my two questions.
Yeah definitely the biggest debate there. Heat is what is going to test this engine. Now whilst they are new and fresh - not a problem! But down the line? Time will tell. However the Prado’s and Holiday,s have seemed fine over the last 8/9 years, so surely this will mean the same for the 70.
Modern engines are much better. Even engines such as the 1hd was 20 years behind what was available. Oils, machining and materials are much better. Many diesel engines have been running steel pistons for a long time, mass production is behind in many ways. Just think, Other than electronics, F1 technology that is being used in 2024 was being used back in the 1940s in Germany. Car engines are very far behind. They don't even incorporate ceramics yet, except ball bearings in turbo chargers. Oils that we use now are okay, but compared to jet oil, we could do a service every 50,000k.
Will they fix the wheel track
No, because it's Toyota.
Why would they spend money changing when plebs buy them anyway…
The 2.8 has been proven, we have plenty running around the pit in the Pilbara with over 400k with relatively low issues. Also the mines don’t want manuals, Rio Tinto isn’t buying any manuals past 2026 for their fleets
Exactly! Hence why we reckon there is no manual in the single cab or wagon variants. Cheers for the comment. - PDP Team
I think everyone is getting a bit wound up over the 4cyl reliablity vs the v8. The V8 was never a crazy unlikabke engine in the first place and the easy of maintenance on the 4cyl will help its longevity aswell
Good luck with the 2.8, just had our work Hilux have the DPF replaced at 160,000km, and my old mans recently purchased second hand Hilux needed its DPF changed out at 30,000km. The combination of emissions hardware and all the electronics that will be the first thing to fail as the kms mount up. You won’t see old GDJ cruisers still running in the bush in 30 years in the same way you see HZJ75s & 79s today
Are they going to fix the rear axle? Not having a manual meanx the wagon decends too fast
They haven't fixed the rear axle in the 2.8L auto, so doubt that will be the case in the manual. The gearing will be different so hopefully it has good enough decent down hill.
And will they supply a wellside.
I'm 55 and ordered a 2.8 single cab. When your older you get over the clutch pedal. I am lost about the track and at this stage and looking at the Dwiz. Any helpful coments? I like the front bar on that troopy, what is it?
We deal with the JMACX rear track conversations here personally, which is also fitted to the PDP 79 Series - never had a problem. As for the bar, I believe it is an off-road Animal one. - PDP Team
@@PerthDieselPerformance Replacing the rear axle is the ultimate solution, but what a cost! I solved mine with offset rims. Negative 25mm on the rear axle, so that fixes most of the issue whilst still being legal (cannot increase the track more then 50mm without it being engineered). Spare has zero offset, so it can be used front and rear. If you've got the cash, then DWiz or JMACZ is the best option, but sadly couldn't afford that route.
BTW - The rims I used were King Wheels 5x150 PCD 16"x8" Hurricane II.
Loss of V8 is loss of grunt. Real man go with grunt. No V8 makes the world a little lesser, cold and quite! Keep the after market V8 Alive
I love the new one but nothing will ever beat the reliability and feeling of the V8
Fair comment!!
My 3.4litre 4cylinder turbo 13bt 1989 still going never wanted a V8. I would have wanted a 6inline. I will like the 4cylinder but manual what else would I do driving in dirt otherwise ?
A 4cyclinder manual expected next year
I'd rather go back to a petrol 4x4 than have adblue plus the backward performance (for the engine) of the dpf.The older diesels were so reliable.
I like your take on it. Currently the only 4x4s on the market with AdBlue to my knowledge is the Ineos Grenadier and the latest Triton. Wonder how they will go. And when we could expect to see it in future in other vehicles with the way emission laws are going. - PDP Team
@@PerthDieselPerformanceI think the Ford Everest also uses AdBlue, at least in V6
@@PerthDieselPerformance Here in the UK all diesels have adblue now, they have done for a few years. Even on tractors and excavators. Any diesel engine over 25hp has to have it! It will soon be mandatory for you too I suspect. I have a grenadier and it does about 8000 miles on a tank so it’s not too bad. My 200hp tractor uses loads! I’m getting it deleted on the tractor as there is no mandatory testing on tractors. I need someone to make a delete program for the grenadier though, one that can be re instated once a year for the MOT though, a smartphone app would be ideal. My issue with adblue is that if the system fails the car will not start, even though it could still be driven the software wont allow it. I’m happy to do my bit for the environment but not if it leaves me stranded in the middle of nowhere.
Yes, I sold my turbo 6 cruiser with 160k on it and moved into a Ram 5.7 couldn't be happier. Had the cruiser for 13 years and sold it for 24k more than I purchased it for. Ram is so much better to drive, ride in and actually tows a tad better too. Wouldn't want a new diesel with all the issues they have now.
The problem was water jackets to close to the head gasket & blowing at cylinder 5 & 7 in the 5.7. The 4.7 is one of Toyota's best motors ever.
Well apparently Toyota doesn’t think so … I’ve had 2 V8 ,76 and 79… they were slow and very unresponsive
This is a different engine
Do you think it will get that mild hybrid version like the hi-lux has now/soon?
Don't think it ever will. Unless laws become so strict that all new vehicles must be hybrid, though that to happen anytime soon in Australia? Yeah don't see that happening. - PDP Team
Hope they fix the rear axle issue.... keep those Luxie's humming 😉🍻
Hahaha…good luck with that.
Why would they spend money changing it when plebs keep buying them anyway
I don't know why Toyota didn't back the 6 cylinder diesel as is available in other markets. It will be interesting how it copes with towing long term! It's a little engine that has the boost wound up to push in more air & fuel to create the power. They don't have the best long term reliability in the Prado.
Solid take. Still too early to say
The 6cyl would be ideal and I’m sure Toyota would still sell them here if they can but the crash safety is the biggest issue, you have no crumple zone with a long 6 cylinder
Is there stats on how many facelift V8’s have been brought into the country?
Not yet. Would be a interesting stat to know!
I remember the turbo charged 750cc motor bikes. You do not see any anymore, the 1100ccs of the time are still going. To make power etc by turbo shortens the life of an engine.
Hence why there are so many 1HZ's still kicking around with no dramas!
Will anyone come out with a engine convertion for the 2.8l 79 series landcruiser.
To put a V8 in? Can't see why it wouldn't an easy conversation to do. Though to do that to a brand new vehicle, say bye to any warranty.
I understand the need for change, but why not the 6 cylinder engine that’s in the 300
We wonder if the 400 Series will become a 4 cylinder engine too…..
Any 3 Doors SWB? Any news?
Not yet
Good interview. Steve 🇦🇺
Cheers Steve!
IMO it comes down to load over displacement. 8 cylinders will always cope with a sustained load over a long period of time.
Great point
@@Cappuccino-ph7rp Yep & watch em sky rocket in value as everyone scrambles to grab em before they are gone. Dinosaurs they maybe called but they will out live alot of other engines if taken care of.
@@Cappuccino-ph7rp Keep dreaming mate, the V8 struggles unbelievably compared to the inline 6’s.
V8’s torque displacement are absolutely not favourable for a tow rig where as inline 6’s produce much better low down torque and longevity
The 2.8 is a good engine but in this case and also for the v8, just another band aid solution, the straight sixes are still made for foreign markets, a modern version of the 1HD-FTE outputting 175kw/600nm should have been the way to go. For the 2.8 with the manual gearbox, toyota don't have a gearbox in there parts bin for the 500nm, so they took the lazy solution and reduced the 2.8's torque to suit a current gearbox, we should demand better from toyota
awesome Travis
The manuel 4 cylinder may appeal to some, but the auto by all accounts seems very capable.
And to be honest, the auto would appeal to more.
Long live the V8!
@@pauljbusby Pffff haha just another petrol head that likes how a V8 sounds but not how it preforms
@@Andrew-hu1bx I dont give a toss about performance. I'm after Longevity
A manual version is some consolation.
Although.
To match a V8.
Are two of those screaming little 2.8s. Required. Per wheel!
V8 is number 1.
If they go down the path of having adblu to the 2.8, they can keep it.
I think the 2.8 will be like patrols zd30 a hand grenade , and i think will start seeing the 2.8 do this around the 200k mark
Just hit 420k towing a 3t van with no issues with my 2018 hilux
why not a v6 diesel NA or single turbo!
NA would be so sluggish and not up to par with what people are doing with their vehicles now.
The number of V8 owners who spend $30k plus on fitting automatic transmission to their vehicles speaks for how well the autos will sell.
Very true!
Just shows how many people can't drive. More of a concern for the rest of us.
Pity Toyota did not put the V6 in the 70 series would be awesome. Longevity of the 4 cylinder is a worry for me. Mining company's want manuals because it is easy to lock them in low gear for mining site use.
I work on one of the big 3 Mining Company's minesites in WA as a HV and LV tyre fitter. I can assure you that the majority of day to day mining vehicles rarely travel with less than highway pressure or get put in 4wd even when off the black top. When conditions call for 4H or 4L the pit is usually shut down and no one drives in those conditions because of 'safety issues.' The majority of 70 series Landcruisers or any other Toyota 4WD vehicles as preferred by mining companies do most of their work at Highway pressures and in 4H. So the moral of the story is never buy an ex miner!!
Yes, however the manual will not be released in a single cab or wagon variant - so are mining companies enquiring on the auto's then if Toyota have decided to not have these variants as a manual?
So this is just my 2 cents. The V8 is a bit overrated in my opinion, however, I do get why people are sceptical of the 4cyc offering from Toyota on such a big vehicle. Why not just offered us a V6 or better yet, an inline 6 option? And if the answer is due to regs, then ok, why not offer a hybrid option? Toyota is a leader in hybrid technology and packaging. I'll be much more please with some hybrid assist to help the small 2.8L.
Still early for hybrid technology in 4WD, especially remote areas. Only now starting to be introduced into market from other manufacturers. Time will tell
Used V8 and the 6's will go up in price..
If tou have a low km v8 might be worth parking up in the shed, prices will go up for sure
Already have!
@@jarrod1687yeah problem is that no one wants the V8 as it’s useless
@@Andrew-hu1bx Mate you are wrong again! I have guys asking me weekly to buy mine & more than what I paid for it. You really have thing for the V8 landcrusier don't you, can't afford one eh! Never mind at least you are a Toyota fan boy so you can't be totally wrong.
I grew up in dads truck and that V8, that V8 is what made the 70. Dont think they will sell many. Like taking the LS away from the commodore or the Cummins away from dodge. Its lost its soul. no thank I will buy something else.
Oh my god mate, the V8 was the Ute that wrecked the name “Landcruiser” the one that made it was the earlier model with the 1HD-FTE
It should come with the V6 engine that comes in the 300 series
That's what Trav expected the case to be much like how the VDJ is shared between the 70 and 200. Took us by surprise it didn't! - PDP Team
Tell Toyota we don't agree with 2.8 4 cylinder. Make it 3.3 diesel. That engine is leaps better.
Give me a 2UZ in auto or manual in a new 76 and I will happily go into debt. It will be hard work getting me out of my UZJ100. Would rather buy a second one lol.
At the beginning in your statistics you mention 346742 units where brought to Australia previously compare with 171010 units, it has been like that for a while, if you back track the records, was since the V8's come out in 2007 the mines did rejected the V8 versions as V8 was taken the diesel fitters to long to keep them on duty with the daily task, as you mention the gear box bell housing issue the got the clutches and trow-out bearings wearing prematurely and stopping them to be in long service, for diesel fitters the simple task of replacing the starter motor was getting the diesel mechanics behind schedule with the mine side daily duties as was taken way to long to perform simple jobs, many mine specs did request to Toyota since them to build them in with the old trusty 6 inline turbos as was reliable, easy to fix, unbreakable plus keep the mine running smoothly and fitters happy, is one of the reason the records show less V8 import to Australia as the mines buy them a lot
doesnt the 4 cylinder need 40psi boost or something to only be slightly better than the v8?
You can upgrade all you want….the engine is what is not going to last. Is this the end of the landcruiser? Sad day….
I had no idea that V8 had such a small output. Is this because it's old tech?
Because it comes out "de-tuned", as many would describe - this is what keeps it so reliable! But also why many tune their 70s. Keep in mind, you lose a bit of reliability when pushing more boost.
@@PerthDieselPerformance thanks. Is the 4 pot detuned also but much better because of modern tech, or is it already tuned for more boost?
@@147258GS There is no surprise here that the V8’s make absolutely NO power at all
May as well buy a Chinese ute.
I guess they can finally correct that wheel track now the V8 option is officially dead.
And yet.... they haven't. Maybe they will announce the change. We doubt it though.
@@PerthDieselPerformance They need to keep the rear axle width due to the Troopy/76 rear bodywork. Otherwise they'd have to make the rear body wider.
If they only sold 79s then it would be an easy fix.
2.8 never late
Toyota Supra used the bmw i6, so should the landcruiser, except the diesel
Japanese SuperGT started in 93 and Toyota get a single podium until 96. They did it in a Supra running a 2.0L celica motor
This is clever because it will challenge the FORD RANGER BUYERS AND TOYOTA might get the sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
V8 in standard form was way under powered and a heavy lump, technology has moved on since the ark lol.
True!
RIP boat anchor V8 🤣
This will drive up old land cruiser price through the roof,us Australian love v,8 The 6 cylinder diesel motor are bulletproof,I hope Australian by less land cruiser,and teach Toyota a lesson,we are not interested in this bull crap.Australian has to start stand up,Your got trucks with add blue,tractor with add blue,I had a recall on my Toyota about muffler,I think they called it d.p.f😅.enough is enough.
They went WoKe
The V8 is looked at with rose tinted glasses.
Its not a remarkable engine in anyway aside from the noise it makes.
Its not amazingly reliably.
It made rubbish power and average torque.
It uses fuel like its going out of fashion.
But my god it sounds awsome with the right exhaust
@@jasonfields2793 You are spot on Jason, they are a useless engine
@@Andrew-hu1bx Do you own one?
Emissions..thirst...low power...complexity..low sales...expensive to make/buy....Bye bye v8
I can't believe the Toyota crowd is defending Toyota, Toyota fanboys are the absolute worst, blinded completely 🤣
Not like Toyota had much of a choice anyway 🤷
These utes haven’t been good since the 1hz anyway
Shitbox anyway. Only farmers buy diesel 4wd these days. Big cube petrol v8 beat them in every area.
Okkkkkkkk. Thanks for yr opinion
@@tontobb8956 thought you needed the education
@@Louie2309 Bahaha hmmm Louie, have you even left your town before with a petrol V8 😂
I think you have no idea what your on about mate
@@Louie2309 Petrols are even worse that the 1VD V8 cruisers
@@Andrew-hu1bx nah mate, I know to well. Diesel mechanic by trade. Proper big shit diesel , so I know them quite well. As for leaving town, the only place I haven’t been is West Australia. You plonked with your prehistoric freakin Land Cuusers and Patrols and other equally rubbish don’t know how #hit they are and how there is much better choices.
High Torque on a smaller engine just means higher turbo boost and more risk of failure. The old V8 was under stressed. Not the 4 donk.
Lol, laziest, low effort solution ever. Glad i got my V8.
2.8 with manual it'll be as gutless as all fark the hiluxs are fucked enough.
I work at a Toyota dealership!
It’s no surprise that the 8 has gone! It was written on the wall for sometime actually. The V8 engine is a dinosaur now and it just wasn’t meeting emissions standards so out it went.
There has already been a comparison video made between the new auto 4 cylinder and the V8 and on the dyno,with both vehicles stock,the new 4 banger made 20 hp more than the V8! Not much sure but more nonetheless. Still it will be thirsty averaging around 14 litres per 100 klm.
But I imagine the die hard cruiser fans won’t care about this. I believe the new engine is prado based so it is a proven unit so should be hassle free?
Dinosaurs were around for a long time & so will the V8.
The 2.8L will always push more figures out on a dyno when it's pushing more boost. The V8s come out with such little boost (with fair reason of extra longevity and reliability), the V8 engine can be pushed a lot more than what the 2.8L already is pushing.
Hopeless engine in a HiLux can only be worse, what a crying shame.
lol you talk about it like you have a choice)) you will comply with Toyota to stay in business.
The only vehicle we want from Toyota in America, and will never get it. We keep getting these overpriced, heavy, churched up, soccer mom vehicles.
About time the v8 was just for old blokes who never got with the times
Degrade
Was a gutless v8 from the get go,who cares😅a LS CONVERSION AUTO WOULD GET THE SAME FEUL RANGE 😅2.8 IS CRAP ON FEUL,,,,,,!,,,,,,, TO,THEY NEED A HYBRID,,,,,,,, THAT USES 4 TO 6 LITRES PER 100KM,,,,,,SOME ONE SWÀP IN A PRIUS AND CAMRY HYBRID
70 Series with Camry Hybrid engine in 2035?!?
Hopefully Toyota pull out of Australia completely, we dint need their new woke shit
Good bye Toyota
Haha who would want a 4 cylinder shitbox, v8 engine was the saving grace for these average vehicles
Dont know why they didn't just keep the good old 6 cylinder diesel going same with nissan why nissan didn't make a good version of the td 42 even though its still a good motor