Hi Michael, as a bass player in a "Shadows" band I very much appreciate anyone who puts effort in getting to the original "Hank" sounds. Don't let anyone discourage you! Keep on playing!
Forget about the hateful comments Michael. You are doing a great job my friend. Remember folks, only Hank sounds like Hank no matter what gear you've got.
Michael,,absolutely well done,,you will inspire a lot of young inexperienced players to practice,.practice.!.and work on getting it right!,you've persevered to get that sound,,this will encourage players to do the same!,,I'm sure Hank never got it right until the last take.!.thanks for your work!
Hello Michael, thank you for sharing your latest practise session, well done to you, I too have been playing a few years now and love the Shadows music, you are correct when you say we must practise all the time, this is so important. I believe you are a better player than you give yourself credit for, the better we play the more confident a player we become, as we master our nervousness we improve greatly, you are so tense with your hands so rigid that you are unable to relax your fingers to play fluently, this is not at all easy. May I suggest that you hold your tremolo arm with the little finger of your right hand all the time you are playing until you are so used to playing with it, you will use it automatically without giving it a thought, the difference in tone/sound will be enormous and you will feel happier with your playing and therefore start relaxing naturally. Also if you live anywhere near a Shadows Guitar Club please go along, you will learn much more quickly and they will help you. Happy playing. Kind regards, Mel
Great job Michael . Lots of people need help with various things in music so thanks for taking the time to make your videos and also giving advice and tips. Best wishes from Liverpool uk
Hi Michael, this is brilliant, I've watched it many times and have taken in every word you have spoken, I'm 67 and just started learning guitar and as you rightly say, practice and practice, I'll get there in the end. Thank you very much
Keep going Michael you have put some major effort in there. What you have to remember is artists such as Hank and others play these tunes everyday to thousands and will play different versions ie will change notes and techniques in every performance. As for practice it's super important to practice for at least 3-4 hrs daily. I'm a singer in the Rat pack style but mainly Dean Martin is my influence. I know about 50+ songs word perfect. How I did that was every night in bed I literally perform a full set of songs in my head, I've been doing this for the last 5 yrs. It's easier that way as your subconscious mind is like a sponge that retains info.
Excellent sound Michael, I have searched for the Shadows sound all my life. You really need to use the tremolo arm, watch Hank he never stops using it.
There is tension in your playing, you will find that your music will flow much better if you relax, then the somewhat staccato sound will become much more fluid. You have technique enough to play Shads stuff, and a nice guitar as well.....keep it up I am sure you will get there. A nice honest video, well done
The fastest way to get Hank Marvin’s sound is 1.a stat stile guitar sss with the bridge set to float.2 a Tube amplifier (I recommend aBlack star I’d core.) set to clean delay and finally a volume pedal (use with a bit of gain and delay. good luck
3 simple steps to get hank marvin’s sound.1. A strat style guitar.2 an amplifier with delay and reverb built in and 3 a volume pedal (always have your trem bar set to float.
yes a great sound micheal.... i envy your playing......never mind the critisism about lack of trem arm thats a minor thing well done to you..please keep going
Tak for en indsigtsfuld video! Det er inspirerende at der er flere af os guitarister “50+” der fatter at øvelse er netop det der skal til! Keep it up! Mvh Perry Stenbäck
Nice to see that you are using the Zoom MS-50G - great sounding unit. I've been using it for several years. Keep up he good work and anjoy playing your guitar. Greetings from Norway
🙂 you really need to learn to use the trem.😁👍 We have around a million and a half Hank Marvins in England most don't know when it's time to get off ! The Strymon Volante is one hell of a great echo unit to gig with, give one a try. 🎸😁👍
Good on you Michael, you are an inspiration, I admire your effort. There are a few other devices out there to get THAT SOUND as well. The BEST by far is TVS3 made in Perth Western Australia, (Expensive) but accurate. Also Alesis Q20 with patches available on Ebay. Plus of course the Charlie Hall stuff from UK. Anyway keep it up pal and congratulations from New Zealand.
I play a lot of shadows stuff and my own compositons too but I am pensioner now with back and arthritis problems so I need a strat that is very lightweight. I was thinking of the Ibanez but people are saying its not good for Shads stuff. I like the improvisation, I do a lot of that as well, its good for progress as a musician.
I think you sound great I'm just starting out playing lead iv just got a positive grid spark amp gonna have a play about with that and hopefully be able to get near the shadows tone ,I think you play great keep it up 👍
It's hard enough when you are learning to play guitar to keep in time and rythym to a backing track,when he gets more familiar with his general playing he will be more confident using the vibrato bar. At the moment the vibrato is just something else to think about,I think he his playing pretty well,it can only get better and it will,try to relax a little Michael, otherwise well played. Try to gently hold the vibrato bar by letting it rest in your free fingers whilst playing and you will soon get the hang of it,you do need the vibrato to really get Hanks sound,his playing style is built around the vibrato.
Very good my friend. I would suggest to try and use all your fingers for ease of playing. I couldn't use my little finger at first, but now it's second nature for me. well done though.
I use a Vox Valvetronix Tonelab and SE which can have around 96 patches you can edit and name. It is great on the Vox sounds. I use Vox AD60 or AD120 (blue speaker cloth like the AC15 and AC30 cabinet style)which are the Amplifier version with the Valvetronix 'brain' built in. I have been trying for years to get the sound and the Tonelab and SE work great for recording and through a mixer into speakers.
A bloke i used to know lived next door to Hank marvin in England years ago Hank said to get my sound you need the Hank Marvin Kinman pick ups to start with then find an old Vox amp and a few pedals, what are your thoughts
Hi Michael just found you on you tube you have done very well i know its hard to get this sound i am 77 started to play about 8 to 10 years ago i bought Hall and Collins echo unit and i have black star amp i cant read music but play from memory i have about 50 posts on you tube and i would like your comments please i thinks the guitar is the hardest instrument to learn and ye practice is the main part but iam now suffering in my left had or wrist from arthritis so can only play for about 20mins at a time but very impressed my name is Alan Bywater
Using 1st and second fingers is creating tension I think hank use mostly 1st and 3rd. Also practise 1234 slide 5 from 6 string to first and return using a finger for each fret
Hi Michael, how are you progressing with your playing? I'm just starting at 72 learning to play the Shadows music. So far I've been learning how to play and get that sound right, hopefully you've got to where you want to be.
Hi, thank you for the respons, I may not be better but I am still adding new songs to my repertoire, fx I have made a sort of Shadows like version of "save your love my darling,,save your love" with backing from a Karaoke version of the song. good luck with your playing.
Unfortunately Apache was almost the wrong tune, a lot of different, or extra notes that Hank doesn't put in, but I enjoyed your enthusiasm for it, keep on pluckin'
Hi, I am using a Katana 100 guitar amplifier, on the clean channel, but I am getting almost the same result on my PA system! the important thing is the pedal with the delayes (2-3 layers)
Nice presentation. 😊 My tip is buy a alesis Q2 echo with the Charlie patches. Then you will have a very good sound of the shadows. They are low on price That's my advice for a better sound Cheers tonio
Thank you for your support, I try to focus on the positive things, and it brings me a lot of fun and joy to play different kinds of guitar music, I am a retired engineer trying to catch up with my teenage guitar heroes.!
@@michaelnielsen7406 I'm also a retired Engineer, picked up a guitar again after nearly 30 years of not playing. I've really got back into it and really enjoy just playing the instrument for the fun of it. The pandemic has given me lots of time to practice!
That was enjoyable and may I say 'motivational'. You see I'm a mere lounge room guitar player, but I do like music. Occasionally I'm able to get together with a bass player, someone on ukulele and someone on vocals, and that really is fun for us all.
Somebody asked for the Hank Marvin tone in a facebook group, I watched some videos and I still can't decide about the pickup, it seems he uses the second position (bridge + middle). Single coil seems to be part of the key, then I am not sure if compressor since you know the picking with compression has a particular sound.. I cant decide because I watched some live videos. One thing for sure is that there are different sounds for different songs surely, this guy in facebook said that different songs have different delays. Another thing to take into account is that since Hank Marvin and the Shadows is an old band, much of that sound comes from different instruments, amplifiers, recording methods, and all there was in those times. So, it is difficult to talk about 1 sound, but if I was to make a patch (in my gt10) I would try to immitate the new sound, in the live videos, I like that sound. Having so few ingredients, the preamp choice and that sort of small choices would be vital for the patch. Also, as far as I heard (old and new) this guitar player doesnt seem to use any strange stuff, like flanger or anything like that. he seems to use 2 delays, 1 short and the other a bit longer. then as I said maybe a a compressor, and in my case I am gonna have to use a single simulator effect to simulate a single pickup, or get a stratocaster (I always wanted one). and last, if you dont use your bar you will never sound like Hank Marvin, but there is a trick, there is an effect called tremolo, and since Hank Marvin was obsessed with his tremolo bar, well, you can use that effect to be ON all the time and nobody would notice the difference. I can bet in my gt10 tremolo has also a predelay (not sure about that), so I can definitely use that resource as well, it is gonna be unfair and cheatery, but it would work for sure.
Hi, I bought a set of many reverb types dedicated to different Shadow songs, and I have settled for around 10 different reverb types, some short and some longer, but always with 2 reverbs on top of each other. so the choice of reverbs certainly makes a difference! I get the best sound from my bridge pickup on my strat. In the early days the Shadows used thicker strings (0,012) which were hard to bend, therefore the tremolo arm was needed. So as you mentioned the entire sound chain of instrument type, string type, pickup choice, reverb selection, amp type etc.defines the final sound.
Hi Michael, you need to learn how to bend the strings to get more feeling into what you’re playing. Also try to relax when playing. Hum the tune that you’re playing when you’re playing it. I bought a cheap Strat, stripped it all down then put Fender custom shop 54’ pickups, fitted a Goto trem unit which is very stable, fitted a bone nut, changed the tuners for some good quality locking ones, refretted the neck etc. I use a Zoom G2 NU with Charlie Hall patches which works well. Regarding amps, I have an Vox AC30 for larger venues micked up, a Fender Vibrolux and a Vox AV60 for smaller venues. I’m always getting good comments for The Shadows sound I get so I guess it must be right, of course it’s all to do with your fingers and the expression you can get..... keep going, you will get there in the end
Hi Chris, thank you for a positive and informative response, I know that i´m too tense when i am playing, and i am really strugling with the tremolo arm.
Blev selv forelsket i den rød/hvide stratocaster da min far i sin tid introducerede The Shadows, The Ventures og generelt guitar musikken til mig som dreng! Du gør det så godt!
Hello, where did you find the patches for Zoom MS-50G? Art d'eco has patches for several Zoom Models but does't have the ones for MS-50G. Can you help? thank you. Roberto
Hi, I bought the patches on the internet, and loaded them manually into the zoom MS 50G, following the descriptions that came with the patches. There are many different patches, so i have only selected 10-12 patches! and it seems to be sufficient for my playing., good luck. Michael
@@robertooggionni1670 There is a homepage www.greatguitareshop.com where you can buy the patches, maybe you will have to load them manually into the Zoom 50 pedal
Hi Chris, I bought them on the internet, and down loaded the files and a list of all the settings, but then I established a selection of them (10 sounds) one by one manually on my ZOOM pedal, based on the list of settings.
@@chrischrisworks6243 Have you tried to look for ZOOM G1Xon Art d´Echo? Steve Reynolds on youtube havs also done a video on how to get the Hank Marvin sound
That's your version of Apache. I watched and watched the shadows apache to get the nuances and timing just right. You play fills that are not there in the original and the timing is off. I enjoyed it though and there are no rules.
It was just an attempt to get closer to the tune, both regarding the tone and the feeling. I am trying to play a number of Shadows tunes, and gradually I manage to get them more and more correct! but as you say, there are no rules.
Hi, I am using a ZOOM multistomp pedal MS 50, as this pedal can handle several echoes at the same time, and this is important! then I have bought echo patches from "Art d´echo" and loaded them into the pedal.(manually). there are other guitar pedals there can handle several echoes (ZOOM and others) for me this was the cheapest way to shadows echoes.
@@michaelnielsen7406 Hi Michael Many thank's for your reply ,I have a ZOOM Multistomp MS 50,and i have also ZOOM G3X, now I m go to buy ZOOM G5N,send me a link from "Art D'echo" please,thank you for advance,and the software EDITH SHARE Thank you verry much All the best Miguel
hey michael ,whit stefan from belgium,i have got a quiestion ,i have a zoom ms-50 g ordered ,en have a fender strato 60 special edition , and a line 6 for amp , whitch amp or you recommended you for mi for a good sound , bat not a tube amp because i need a headfone connection, jou cant see the trees nouwmoor in the wood , thanks for the information , gr from belgium.
@@stefan3775 Hi Stefan, I think the Katana 50 is a good choice, it has some good settings for playing in your home, but it might not be loud enough for a band with a drummer
You're doing great, but I really think you should be listening to the records a bit more closely. You can dispense with the tremolo, but you must compensate with solid finger vibrato. A string plucked with no feel just ruins the listener's pleasure. You are doing great. Keep improving.
Hej tror du er dansker 😊lyder godt og Ja det bare at øve øve kender det godt .men prøv at få vibratorarmen med også .😊😆😊😊har et par forslag til echo maskiner der er Alesis Q2 og Q20 hall & colins echo unit. Jeg er 38 og har spillet det i 23 år nu så fedt Kenneth fra Fyn
great playing but you have got 2 things wrong first have your strings set to low they need to be raised a little bit from the bridge end ... 2nd you are playing over the middle pickup to get the right sound try playing over the neck pickup also check the tuning of your strings and relax then your playing will Sound will be wow keep up the good work
Hej Michael, som dig prøver jeg også ! Hvis du har lyst kan vi prøve at dele nogle af vore erfaringer. Ved ikke hvor du bor, ud over hvad jeg kan se på billedet. ( det ligner en typisk Dansk ejendom med nogle år på bagen ). Jeg er hjemmehørende i NV Sjælland.
Hej Lars, tak for din tilbagemelding, jeg bor i Vanløse i København, og det kunne da være sjovt at dele erfaringer, min mail adresse er "rytsel.nielsen@mail.tele.dk" hvis du vil kontakte mig. mvh. Michael
@@ctiley2212 I'm sorry, but that is putting the world upside down! Cecilia Millership isn't stating (like Michael Nielsen DOES) that (s)he can get close to Hank B's sound, just that Michael doesn't. Which -in a way- is true! Question is: should Cecilia write this as a comment? For Michael is doing his best and giving an insight into his quest for the Shadows' sound. That shouldn't be disqualified just like that with a superior "you are nowhere near Hanks sound". But I can assure you: there was a time I could get closer to Hank B'sound than is demonstrated on the video. Alas I can't "prove" it as due to osteo-arthritis I can't play the guitar anymore...................
@@SvOekel By making her statement she is claiming superiority and the qualifications to make the statement. If she thinks she is qualified to be so rude, let her prove it, he does a lot better than I ever have so good on him, his sound I think is quite pleasant.
Adrian,Michael is learning..did you play like Hank when you were learning?..can you even play like Hank now?...give him a break..I've been playing Shads tracks when they were being released and entering the charts,in the 1960's,from 15 years old,..I studied Hank's every move,every bend,every fluffed note..[check out FBI!],but I couldn't afford the gear,so had to learn on a plywood box Rossetti Lucky Seven,with a wide flat neck...no pickups no tone whatsoever..but I practised,and practised......and practised ....six and seven hours every night after a hard shift working underground as a young coalminer....until it all came to me,then I got some decent gear,and suddenly friends were saying I was as good as Hank....well...NO-ONE is as good as Hank,cos he has a unique feel,charisma,body language,and character. So he is a hero to us all,and we just have to practice,and be content with ourselves,and to hell what any body else thinks!!..if they can do better....let's see them on here!!. Having said all that,I do accept constructive and kind criticism and advice,as it is all a matter of opinion,but we can all do without negative derogatory comments,with no substance at all,and which only serves to undermine a player's confidence. The vibrato arm and picking position advice is absoloutely correct,and given in the correct manner,so Adrian,try to keep comments in a more positive manner and don't come across as a Mr Know-all,who thinks he knows all,but knows absoloutely F......-all!! Rant over Adrian....sorry Mate but you had it wrong also!
It is a very nice effort, but to be honest you are not close to sounding like Hank, it is way off but keep trying, oh if you can get a Stratocaster and get rid of the HB.I am not being nasty just honest
Shon-Philleepe...same comment applies to you [as it does to Adrian ,and everybody else on here who have Cow-dung for brains]!..sorry mate...you are a joke!
The most useful thing out there to get that sound is a Gretsch. Apache, FBI, Frightened City, (I could go on) sorry guys, but no possible way is that the sound of a Strat.
Hi Michael, as a bass player in a "Shadows" band I very much appreciate anyone who puts effort in getting to the original "Hank" sounds. Don't let anyone discourage you! Keep on playing!
Forget about the hateful comments Michael. You are doing a great job my friend. Remember folks, only Hank sounds like Hank no matter what gear you've got.
Michael,,absolutely well done,,you will inspire a lot of young inexperienced players to practice,.practice.!.and work on getting it right!,you've persevered to get that sound,,this will encourage players to do the same!,,I'm sure Hank never got it right until the last take.!.thanks for your work!
Hello Michael, thank you for sharing your latest practise session, well done to you, I too have been playing a few years now and love the Shadows music, you are correct when you say we must practise all the time, this is so important. I believe you are a better player than you give yourself credit for, the better we play the more confident a player we become, as we master our nervousness we improve greatly, you are so tense with your hands so rigid that you are unable to relax your fingers to play fluently, this is not at all easy. May I suggest that you hold your tremolo arm with the little finger of your right hand all the time you are playing until you are so used to playing with it, you will use it automatically without giving it a thought, the difference in tone/sound will be enormous and you will feel happier with your playing and therefore start relaxing naturally. Also if you live anywhere near a Shadows Guitar Club please go along, you will learn much more quickly and they will help you. Happy playing. Kind regards, Mel
Great job Michael . Lots of people need help with various things in music so thanks for taking the time to make your videos and also giving advice and tips. Best wishes from Liverpool uk
Hi Michael, this is brilliant, I've watched it many times and have taken in every word you have spoken, I'm 67 and just started learning guitar and as you rightly say, practice and practice, I'll get there in the end. Thank you very much
Hi Michael, I'm a great fan of The Shadows. Thanks for posting this video.
Keep going Michael you have put some major effort in there. What you have to remember is artists such as Hank and others play these tunes everyday to thousands and will play different versions ie will change notes and techniques in every performance. As for practice it's super important to practice for at least 3-4 hrs daily. I'm a singer in the Rat pack style but mainly Dean Martin is my influence. I know about 50+ songs word perfect. How I did that was every night in bed I literally perform a full set of songs in my head, I've been doing this for the last 5 yrs. It's easier that way as your subconscious mind is like a sponge that retains info.
Excellent sound Michael, I have searched for the Shadows sound all my life. You really need to use the tremolo arm, watch Hank he never stops using it.
Excellent Michael. I took up the guitar at the age of 62. Well done 👍 😎
Start to finish, well done!
Great video. It was a big help for my practice. I got an electric guitar just to play surfing music like Tthe Shadows and The Ventures . Cheers
You did a great job with it. Definitely caught the feel of the music.
Hi Michael, your right lots of practice, to get that playing & sounds. Keep up the good work
Peace pipe was excellent, well done, sounds and music great. Inspirational
Brilliant video ....very informative. Impressive playing too...I'd love to be able to play like you.
I am proud of you,man!!! a Friend of the Shadows, is a friend of mine!!!!! Keep going, there is only one way, and that is up!!!!
Hello Michael, much appreciated, keep it going ! 👍👏👏
There is tension in your playing, you will find that your music will flow much better if you relax, then the somewhat staccato sound will become much more fluid. You have technique enough to play Shads stuff, and a nice guitar as well.....keep it up I am sure you will get there. A nice honest video, well done
The fastest way to get Hank Marvin’s sound is 1.a stat stile guitar sss with the bridge set to float.2 a Tube amplifier (I recommend aBlack star I’d core.) set to clean delay and finally a volume pedal (use with a bit of gain and delay. good luck
Good job...excellent.!!!
3 simple steps to get hank marvin’s sound.1. A strat style guitar.2 an amplifier with delay and reverb built in and 3 a volume pedal (always have your trem bar set to float.
Nice work Michael.. I love Shadows tunes.
yes a great sound micheal.... i envy your playing......never mind the critisism about lack of trem arm thats a minor thing well done to you..please keep going
Tak for en indsigtsfuld video! Det er inspirerende at der er flere af os guitarister “50+” der fatter at øvelse er netop det der skal til! Keep it up! Mvh Perry Stenbäck
Nice to see that you are using the Zoom MS-50G - great sounding unit. I've been using it for several years.
Keep up he good work and anjoy playing your guitar. Greetings from Norway
🙂 you really need to learn to use the trem.😁👍 We have around a million and a half Hank Marvins in England most don't know when it's time to get off ! The Strymon Volante is one hell of a great echo unit to gig with, give one a try. 🎸😁👍
Excellent video Michael. Well done.
Good on you Michael, you are an inspiration, I admire your effort. There are a few other devices out there to get THAT SOUND as well. The BEST by far is TVS3 made in Perth Western Australia, (Expensive) but accurate. Also Alesis Q20 with patches available on Ebay. Plus of course the Charlie Hall stuff from UK. Anyway keep it up pal and congratulations from New Zealand.
Thank you for your nice respons, and your tips for the right sound.
Steve Hilliar. Charlie Hall and allesis quadraverb gt with echoes from the past
I play a lot of shadows stuff and my own compositons too but I am pensioner now with back and arthritis problems so I need a strat that is very lightweight. I was thinking of the Ibanez but people are saying its not good for Shads stuff. I like the improvisation, I do a lot of that as well, its good for progress as a musician.
I have bought a Harley Benton strat, but it weighs 3.5 to 4 kg, so it is not light weight
Very nice playing and nice sound. Helpful tips too.
Michael You must use the tremolo(vibrato really) arm if you wish to get anywhere near Hank. Its just not the same I'm afraid if you don't.
Ya, I too play by the trem under my last two fingers at bar end tip so easier to rock flexibly.
I think you sound great I'm just starting out playing lead iv just got a positive grid spark amp gonna have a play about with that and hopefully be able to get near the shadows tone ,I think you play great keep it up 👍
We have the same guitar, plays great, and I love the neck profile.
Mr. Michell , congratulations your video is very good !!!!
Very nice Video my dear friend. Great sound!
Good JOB - CONGRATULATIONS !!!! I am using Mooer GE-200 and I am having good results !!!
It's hard enough when you are learning to play guitar to keep in time and rythym to a backing track,when he gets more familiar with his general playing he will be more confident using the vibrato bar. At the moment the vibrato is just something else to think about,I think he his playing pretty well,it can only get better and it will,try to relax a little Michael, otherwise well played. Try to gently hold the vibrato bar by letting it rest in your free fingers whilst playing and you will soon get the hang of it,you do need the vibrato to really get Hanks sound,his playing style is built around the vibrato.
Very good my friend. I would suggest to try and use all your fingers for ease of playing. I couldn't use my little finger at first, but now it's second nature for me. well done though.
Absolutely beautiful Michael, just love what you play.
I use a Vox Valvetronix Tonelab and SE which can have around 96 patches you can edit and name. It is great on the Vox sounds. I use Vox AD60 or AD120 (blue speaker cloth like the AC15 and AC30 cabinet style)which are the Amplifier version with the Valvetronix 'brain' built in. I have been trying for years to get the sound and the Tonelab and SE work great for recording and through a mixer into speakers.
A bloke i used to know lived next door to Hank marvin in England years ago Hank said to get my sound you need the Hank Marvin Kinman pick ups to start with then find an old Vox amp and a few pedals, what are your thoughts
Hi Michael just found you on you tube you have done very well i know its hard to get this sound i am 77 started to play about 8 to 10 years ago i bought Hall and Collins echo unit and i have black star amp i cant read music but play from memory i have about 50 posts on you tube and i would like your comments please i thinks the guitar is the hardest instrument to learn and ye practice is the main part but iam now suffering in my left had or wrist from arthritis so can only play for about 20mins at a time but very impressed my name is Alan Bywater
Using 1st and second fingers is creating tension I think hank use mostly 1st and 3rd. Also practise 1234 slide 5 from 6 string to first and return using a finger for each fret
Hi Michael, how are you progressing with your playing? I'm just starting at 72 learning to play the Shadows music. So far I've been learning how to play and get that sound right, hopefully you've got to where you want to be.
Hi, thank you for the respons, I may not be better but I am still adding new songs to my repertoire, fx I have made a sort of Shadows like version of "save your love my darling,,save your love" with backing from a Karaoke version of the song. good luck with your playing.
Unfortunately Apache was almost the wrong tune, a lot of different, or extra notes that Hank doesn't put in, but I enjoyed your enthusiasm for it, keep on pluckin'
Hi Michael what amp do you use and what amp setting I am struggling with them thank keep up the good work
Hi, I am using a Katana 100 guitar amplifier, on the clean channel, but I am getting almost the same result on my PA system! the important thing is the pedal with the delayes (2-3 layers)
Nice presentation. 😊 My tip is buy a alesis Q2 echo with the Charlie patches. Then you will have a very good sound of the shadows. They are low on price
That's my advice for a better sound
Cheers tonio
Good effort Michael. The tones are not too far away. Sad to see so many hateful comments, what a bunch of arseholes! Dont let them discourage you.
Thank you for your support, I try to focus on the positive things, and it brings me a lot of fun and joy to play different kinds of guitar music, I am a retired engineer trying to catch up with my teenage guitar heroes.!
@@michaelnielsen7406 I'm also a retired Engineer, picked up a guitar again after nearly 30 years of not playing. I've really got back into it and really enjoy just playing the instrument for the fun of it. The pandemic has given me lots of time to practice!
That was enjoyable and may I say 'motivational'. You see I'm a mere lounge room guitar player, but I do like music. Occasionally I'm able to get together with a bass player, someone on ukulele and someone on vocals, and that really is fun for us all.
well done michael very nice
Great video mate! Love Hank Marvin 👏🎸
No whammy action ?
Somebody asked for the Hank Marvin tone in a facebook group, I watched some videos and I still can't decide about the pickup, it seems he uses the second position (bridge + middle). Single coil seems to be part of the key, then I am not sure if compressor since you know the picking with compression has a particular sound.. I cant decide because I watched some live videos.
One thing for sure is that there are different sounds for different songs surely, this guy in facebook said that different songs have different delays. Another thing to take into account is that since Hank Marvin and the Shadows is an old band, much of that sound comes from different instruments, amplifiers, recording methods, and all there was in those times. So, it is difficult to talk about 1 sound, but if I was to make a patch (in my gt10) I would try to immitate the new sound, in the live videos, I like that sound.
Having so few ingredients, the preamp choice and that sort of small choices would be vital for the patch. Also, as far as I heard (old and new) this guitar player doesnt seem to use any strange stuff, like flanger or anything like that. he seems to use 2 delays, 1 short and the other a bit longer. then as I said maybe a a compressor, and in my case I am gonna have to use a single simulator effect to simulate a single pickup, or get a stratocaster (I always wanted one). and last, if you dont use your bar you will never sound like Hank Marvin, but there is a trick, there is an effect called tremolo, and since Hank Marvin was obsessed with his tremolo bar, well, you can use that effect to be ON all the time and nobody would notice the difference. I can bet in my gt10 tremolo has also a predelay (not sure about that), so I can definitely use that resource as well, it is gonna be unfair and cheatery, but it would work for sure.
Hi, I bought a set of many reverb types dedicated to different Shadow songs, and I have settled for around 10 different reverb types, some short and some longer, but always with 2 reverbs on top of each other. so the choice of reverbs certainly makes a difference! I get the best sound from my bridge pickup on my strat. In the early days the Shadows used thicker strings (0,012) which were hard to bend, therefore the tremolo arm was needed. So as you mentioned the entire sound chain of instrument type, string type, pickup choice, reverb selection, amp type etc.defines the final sound.
Hi Michael, you need to learn how to bend the strings to get more feeling into what you’re playing. Also try to relax when playing. Hum the tune that you’re playing when you’re playing it. I bought a cheap Strat, stripped it all down then put Fender custom shop 54’ pickups, fitted a Goto trem unit which is very stable, fitted a bone nut, changed the tuners for some good quality locking ones, refretted the neck etc. I use a Zoom G2 NU with Charlie Hall patches which works well. Regarding amps, I have an Vox AC30 for larger venues micked up, a Fender Vibrolux and a Vox AV60 for smaller venues. I’m always getting good comments for The Shadows sound I get so I guess it must be right, of course it’s all to do with your fingers and the expression you can get..... keep going, you will get there in the end
Hi Chris, thank you for a positive and informative response, I know that i´m too tense when i am playing, and i am really strugling with the tremolo arm.
Thanks
Blev selv forelsket i den rød/hvide stratocaster da min far i sin tid introducerede The Shadows, The Ventures og generelt guitar musikken til mig som dreng! Du gør det så godt!
Hi Michael, very good plaing but absolutly to loud to the backingtracks
Hello, where did you find the patches for Zoom MS-50G? Art d'eco has patches for several Zoom Models but does't have the ones for MS-50G. Can you help? thank you. Roberto
Hi, I bought the patches on the internet, and loaded them manually into the zoom MS 50G, following the descriptions that came with the patches. There are many different patches, so i have only selected 10-12 patches! and it seems to be sufficient for my playing., good luck. Michael
@@michaelnielsen7406 thank you michael, could you tell me where in internet? Thank You,
@@robertooggionni1670 There is a homepage www.greatguitareshop.com where you can buy the patches, maybe you will have to load them manually into the Zoom 50 pedal
Tremolo????
Hello Michael Very good and informative. I wonder where can I get this patches Art`d echo ?
Hi Chris, I bought them on the internet, and down loaded the files and a list of all the settings, but then I established a selection of them (10 sounds) one by one manually on my ZOOM pedal, based on the list of settings.
@@michaelnielsen7406 Thanks for the answer, do you remember the adress on internet. I´ve tried twice but failed.
@@chrischrisworks6243 Have you tried to look for ZOOM G1Xon Art d´Echo? Steve Reynolds on youtube havs also done a video on how to get the Hank Marvin sound
That's your version of Apache. I watched and watched the shadows apache to get the nuances and timing just right.
You play fills that are not there in the original and the timing is off.
I enjoyed it though and there are no rules.
It was just an attempt to get closer to the tune, both regarding the tone and the feeling. I am trying to play a number of Shadows tunes, and gradually I manage to get them more and more correct! but as you say, there are no rules.
Hello Michael
Congratulations,with this sound of The Shadows,what use machine echo,and this patche use you?
Thank you for advance
Miguel
Hi, I am using a ZOOM multistomp pedal MS 50, as this pedal can handle several echoes at the same time, and this is important! then I have bought echo patches from "Art d´echo" and loaded them into the pedal.(manually). there are other guitar pedals there can handle several echoes (ZOOM and others) for me this was the cheapest way to shadows echoes.
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Hi Michael
Many thank's for your reply ,I have a ZOOM Multistomp MS 50,and i have also ZOOM G3X, now I m go to buy ZOOM G5N,send me a link from "Art D'echo" please,thank you for advance,and the software EDITH SHARE
Thank you verry much
All the best
Miguel
very good! its possbile to share that excel file of effects?
Meget fin video rigtig det kræver øvelse øvelse så skal det nok komme,men jeg syntes sq du er god.
hey michael ,whit stefan from belgium,i have got a quiestion ,i have a zoom ms-50 g ordered ,en have a fender strato 60 special edition , and a line 6 for amp , whitch amp or you recommended you for mi for a good sound , bat not a tube amp because i need a headfone connection, jou cant see the trees nouwmoor in the wood , thanks for the information , gr from belgium.
Hi, I use a Boss Katana 100 amp or play through my PA system
@@michaelnielsen7406 hey , thanks for the information greats grom Belgium , gr Stefan.
@@michaelnielsen7406 hey ,thanks , i go looking for a boss katana 50 mk2 ,i think the best amp for my , what you thinking of these amp ,gr stefan.
@@stefan3775 Hi Stefan, I think the Katana 50 is a good choice, it has some good settings for playing in your home, but it might not be loud enough for a band with a drummer
@@michaelnielsen7406 hay michael , its onely for playing at home , bat i wont a good sound whit my pedals , gr stefan.
You want the sound hank used vox ac30
Well done fantastic demo 😊😊
You're doing great, but I really think you should be listening to the records a bit more closely. You can dispense with the tremolo, but you must compensate with solid finger vibrato. A string plucked with no feel just ruins the listener's pleasure. You are doing great. Keep improving.
Godt 😄😄men du bruger ikke vibrator ????????
7th step "use your TREMOLO" whammy bar....
Hi Michael, well played, the older tracks didn't quite sound spot on to me could it be that the pickups aren't quite retro enough for them ?
Where is Hank Marvin sound ?
I applaud your attempt at Hank Marvin, but without the use of the term arm, you will never get it right , sooy
It was an help knowing not to play that way your snatching at the notes
Hej tror du er dansker 😊lyder godt og Ja det bare at øve øve kender det godt .men prøv at få vibratorarmen med også .😊😆😊😊har et par forslag til echo maskiner der er Alesis Q2 og Q20 hall & colins echo unit. Jeg er 38 og har spillet det i 23 år nu så fedt
Kenneth fra Fyn
great playing but you have got 2 things wrong first have your strings set to low they need to be raised a little bit from the bridge end ... 2nd you are playing over the middle pickup to get the right sound try playing over the neck pickup also check the tuning of your strings and relax then your playing will Sound will be wow keep up the good work
Sorry mate, great effort but not quite there, oh maybe a Fender Strat will help get you there, keep going-still a bit of work to do
Does anyone know where to get backing tracks and sheet music for tracks like Peace Pipe and Flingel Bunt?
I don’t know about sheet music, but I get a lot of my backing tracks from Goran Tangrig, I often also use midi files
Hej Michael, som dig prøver jeg også ! Hvis du har lyst kan vi prøve at dele nogle af vore erfaringer. Ved ikke hvor du bor, ud over hvad jeg kan se på billedet. ( det ligner en typisk Dansk ejendom med nogle år på bagen ). Jeg er hjemmehørende i NV Sjælland.
Hej Lars, tak for din tilbagemelding, jeg bor i Vanløse i København, og det kunne da være sjovt at dele erfaringer, min mail adresse er "rytsel.nielsen@mail.tele.dk" hvis du vil kontakte mig. mvh. Michael
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Shawdoggie
Far from "THAT SOUND "!!! I am sorry!!!!
Les Paul guitar(s) - first big mistake!
I'm sorry mate but you are nowhere near Hanks sound.
Cecilia Millership, he sounds a lot more like Hank than you ever will, so maybe you only comment when you can prove you are better.
@@ctiley2212 I'm sorry, but that is putting the world upside down! Cecilia Millership isn't stating (like Michael Nielsen DOES) that (s)he can get close to Hank B's sound, just that Michael doesn't. Which -in a way- is true! Question is: should Cecilia write this as a comment? For Michael is doing his best and giving an insight into his quest for the Shadows' sound. That shouldn't be disqualified just like that with a superior "you are nowhere near Hanks sound". But I can assure you: there was a time I could get closer to Hank B'sound than is demonstrated on the video. Alas I can't "prove" it as due to osteo-arthritis I can't play the guitar anymore...................
@@SvOekel By making her statement she is claiming superiority and the qualifications to make the statement. If she thinks she is qualified to be so rude, let her prove it, he does a lot better than I ever have so good on him, his sound I think is quite pleasant.
Like ventus not hank marvin
Sorry mate playing it wrong
Adrian,Michael is learning..did you play like Hank when you were learning?..can you even play like Hank now?...give him a break..I've been playing Shads tracks when they were being released and entering the charts,in the 1960's,from 15 years old,..I studied Hank's every move,every bend,every fluffed note..[check out FBI!],but I couldn't afford the gear,so had to learn on a plywood box Rossetti Lucky Seven,with a wide flat neck...no pickups no tone whatsoever..but I practised,and practised......and practised ....six and seven hours every night after a hard shift working underground as a young coalminer....until it all came to me,then I got some decent gear,and suddenly friends were saying I was as good as Hank....well...NO-ONE is as good as Hank,cos he has a unique feel,charisma,body language,and character.
So he is a hero to us all,and we just have to practice,and be content with ourselves,and to hell what any body else thinks!!..if they can do better....let's see them on here!!.
Having said all that,I do accept constructive and kind criticism and advice,as it is all a matter of opinion,but we can all do without negative derogatory comments,with no substance at all,and which only serves to undermine a player's confidence.
The vibrato arm and picking position advice is absoloutely correct,and given in the correct manner,so Adrian,try to keep comments in a more positive manner and don't come across as a Mr Know-all,who thinks he knows all,but knows absoloutely F......-all!!
Rant over Adrian....sorry Mate but you had it wrong also!
@@highpitwilma yes I've been playing shadows numbers fo 40 years
@@highpitwilma I was playing shadows when I was 10 years old my dds a music teacher
Your forgetting tripple in apache
It is a very nice effort, but to be honest you are not close to sounding like Hank, it is way off but keep trying, oh if you can get a Stratocaster and get rid of the HB.I am not being nasty just honest
Plug your ears onto guitar tuner
wtf no way does this match hank
Nothing like it
Danelectro echo d4 great for hank songs sound great on gretsch
You need listen to record mate
Moron.
Sorry Michael, but you haven't got a clue.
boff
This is silly!
Hope this is a joke !!
Shon-Philleepe...same comment applies to you [as it does to Adrian ,and everybody else on here who have Cow-dung for brains]!..sorry mate...you are a joke!
That's like nails being scratched down a blackboard , my ears are painful now after listening to that .
The most useful thing out there to get that sound is a Gretsch. Apache, FBI, Frightened City, (I could go on) sorry guys, but no possible way is that the sound of a Strat.
Interesting viewpoint, but is Hank Marvin playing a Gretsch?? I don´t think so
Didn't Hank Marvin almost exclusively play a Strat though?