Love the fly shot! I had one a couple years ago but not on film unfortunately. Well Josh love your channel man keep the great content coming. You are opening my eyes to match shooting would be very fun. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Great video! I just scored 1,000 rounds of SK Long Range off the inter web. Breaking your cheek weld between strings and getting groups like that is a symptom of improper parallax adjustment.
I'm just running one in bone stock form and have gotten .3 at 50 all day with sk red box. Standard velocity cci I've gotten consistent .6inch. I firmly believe this gun with a trigger job or drop in IS ABSOLUTELY the best bang for the $ . I have a 455 and had a 457 but still like that bergara bolt feel much more .
I has similar results with my Bergara @ 50 yds but the difference was 1/8" so what I do is buy the cheaper CCI ammo and just subtract 1/8" from my groups lol
My similar results are .3 inch 5 shot groupings at 50 yards from CCI Competition ammunition. Stock rifle with NF NXS 3.5-15 x 50 optic, SFP MOA scaled reticle and 1/4 minute dials. At 100 yards not quite MOA, a result I’m sure of not yet figuring out my MOA wind constant. I now believe it to be 7 and if that’s right a 10 mph full value wind would be worth about an inch and a half of favor. I’ve only had the rifle for a few days but so far I perceive the rifle shoots in the direction the barrel is pointed and the only thing precluding better results is my position not yet good enough to discern NPA as being perfected.
As a UK .22lr shooter I use Eley Sport (probably different name in USA) most of the time. A friend gave me a box of Eley Edge (cases are black - no longer made) to try, 🙂 did like the way they grouped
I have a brick of Long Range Match that I haven't shot yet. May have to give it a try but my new Vudoo shoots SK Standard just great. Thanks for the video, Josh.
FWIW I have read repeatedly and as you have stated, the B14R was built around using SK and Lapua 22lr ammo. My B14Rs loves SK ammo. Mine shoots especially well with SK Pistol Match Special and SK Rifle Match at 50 yards. The guys in my rifle club who own Vudoos and highly customized CZ 457 MTR's are amazed how well stock B14Rs's shoot.
I’m getting .37 MOA at 50 yards, 5 shot groupings using 23 year old CCI Competition ammunition from my bone stock Bergara with a Harris bipod attached to sling swivel stud. Nice rifle, bought it used and stuck a NF 3.5-15 NXS with MOA scaled reticle and dials on it. I have not cleaned the bore and do not intend to.
Mine results were pretty much the same. Sub-par groups with anything but the SK Long Range Max. The gun was much easier to handle in the Bravo chassis as the factory one is slick as snot. Mine spends most of its time in the safe as my Tikka T1X in a boyds stock shoots everything better as does my CZ 457.
Interesting. My B14r steel barrel in the HRM stock shoots Norma TAC as well as the anything you tried today at 50 yards. Of the limited ammo I've tried, mine doesn't like Eley branded stuff very much at all. It loves Norma at 50 and even does well at 100 but falls completely apart at 200. It absolutely loves the limited amount of Lapua Midas + and Pistol match I've been able to feed it, but still, out to 50, the Norma can go toe to toe with even the Lapua with consistent .3 & .25 inch groups. Luckily I've been able to stock up on a few thousand rounds of Norma TAC since I can't get any Lapua unless our local Sportsman's Warehouse decides to carry it, which they haven't done in over a year now, and who knows if they'll continue to even stock the Norma stuff once I've bought it all🤷🏻♂️😡. Out of curiosity, what're your torque settings on the action screws!? I used 55 in/lbs and certainly have no complaints. I've got a Trigger Tech trigger on its way and since I'll have to remove the action anyway, I may play around with other settings and see what happens but I really can't imagine mine getting much better then it is.
I have similar results with Norma Tac22 Black box, not so much luck with the Norma Match. I’ve been sorting them by weight and the results have improved a little. My rifle does not like any Eley ammo and it shoots the SK ammo very well when I can find it.
@Luther Price interesting about it not liking Norma Match. Wonder why. Sadly, I used up all my SK ammo in my T1x back when I thought I could get a regular supply. I was recently able to grab 500 rounds of Midas +. Looking forward to seeing how it does at 100 - 200 yards. And how the T1x and B14 compare at those distances with that ammo.
The Black box Tac22 is a faster round than the Match, 1083 vs 1100 by their testing but the Match has a smaller weight deviation 52.6-53.0grs, the Tac22 is 52.4-53.4grs with the largest percentage at 52.8-53.0grs. I’m very happy with the Norma as a whole and I like the cost also😂
@Luther Price great info! And you bet, the Tac 22 is a bargain, at least for my 2 .22s, but it seems to do well in about every test with every .22 I've seen. It's like they've found a Goldilocks spot between performance and price.
If that's a newly setup rifle it's possible something shifted or settled to cause the POI shift. I also had a brand new scope from a reputable company where the reticle would randomly shift under recoil(found out after sending it in for repair). It was really only the second group that shifted. First, third and fifth had the same POI. However, your "flier" on the fifth matches the location of the second group. Maybe try shooting a group...giving the scope a smack with your hand and see if there's a POI shift.
Good results there. I use SK long rang match for general practice. But I have not yet found anything the shoots as well as RWS R50. Keep up the good work
Have the same rifle. Same results. After trying at least 15 different variations of match ammo. It shoot the SK long range match way better than anything I’ve tried.
Mine absolutely hated everything but norma tac 22 it was the only thing I could get sub Moa with I tried 10 different kinds of 22 ammo. Only part I regret about getting rid of my tikka it did well with a bunch of different ammo. Thanks for the great video.
I have 5. .22 rifles 1. Anschutz 54 and 2. Walther KK UIT Spezial Match and a Kimber 82G and a Bergara with a Bartlein barrel on it. They all hate Tenex they all love Norma-Tac at 50 yards and the New recipe Norma-Tac is pretty darned good at 100 yards they slowed it down to 1080 and made it more consistant velocity wise. SK Standard Plus and Eley Match only 1. lot so far out of 4. lots tried. Eley Club and they love RWS Match and Wolf Match Target and Wolf Match Extra and even CCI Standard. Now that being said, For the Excessive Price that Tenex costs it should somehow shoot better or at least be delivered by a good looking college coed in a short skirt with beer and pizza so i at least i am getting something for my $$$$$$$$$ Tenex is consistant, consistantly bad in my rifles. I wish SK Match and LR Match were more available.
Lol with anything else in that price point lot testing is key. Your rifle may hate 9 out of 10 lots and do something amazing with the 10th lot. Ask me how I know.......but dont ask my wife.....she doesnt know how much ive spent testing 22lr match ammo 🤣🤣🤣
With my eyes if I don’t get exactly in the same spot and focal point behind the scope my shots do the same thing. It may not be what caused your shift, but it does do it to me, but I shoot with glasses as well.
When you start getting that level of accuracy, slight changes in position or hold from group to grout will manifest on the target and be lost in the noise of groups in the .5 inch plus groups.
I'm amazed that it shoots such tight groups right out of the box with just a trigger upgrade. My gun likes SK, shoots SK Biathlon and Long Range match about the same, with SK Pistol match being just as good at 50 yds but not at 100 yds (it's pretty slow).
My new B14R does very well with SK match Rifle, SK Match pistol special, Eley Team and RWS rifle match Did not like Eley Match But everything else under .5 moa at 50
Good video Josh, I purchased the Bergara B14R, it shoots great even though I am using cheap ammo, I am happy to have it, I will try the ones you recommend, by the way if you know a bipod base for picatinny rail, I will really appreciate it, because the ones I found they are not flat and they don’t work good with the rifle, thanks in advance 👍
Hey Josh Love the channel and the way you present your videos. Heaps of great info and insight. Two quick questions/comments. Firstly, not having a go at your abilities, but when group testing why not use something like a Caldwell sled or something similar to eliminate “shooter” from the results. I have a mate who suggested setting up in a vice, but I wonder if that would upset harmonics, maybe not if the barrel is totally free floated. Maybe there is another video! Secondly, to remove wind as much as possible why not shoot at say 25 or 20 yards. Obviously you will get smaller groups but the relative accuracy should be comparable, groups being angular measurement, but cutting out wind Your thoughts?
Hey Mike. Honestly with a good bipod and rear bag at 50 there isnt much shooter in the equation. At 25 ive found most ammo shoots one hole with very little variation in group sizes. Never been a fan of the sleds etc. They are less stable and less comfortable than the bipod and bag as well. Its also putting something between your shoulder and the rifle making the lop longer than it would otherwise be on the bench in my setup.
I have the Carbon, its good. but I'm not sure about it yet. I have a Lilja blank ordered for it. Mine also likes the SK, Wolf, RWS. Most of my ammo is 10-15years old also lol. Headspace was .0455 from factory. I shimmed it to .0425. It seemed to help a tiny bit. Made a tuner for it. I think the carbon needs a heavy tuner weight to affect the harmonics. I would go for the Steel barrel, I think. The Carbon is supposed to hold a better cold barrel zero. I have not checked that out yet. May not since I'm rebarreling. The carbon barrel is tensioned. The nut that holds the carbon sleeve on tensions the barrel like prestressed concrete.
Enjoyed this a lot as a new shooter but......what happens to the same loads out to a hundred? Or 200 as the PRS is want to do. Love my Bergarra and am watching to find ways to increase performance & complete with the pros from Dover....
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Hey Josh, I’ve seen in past videos you’ve swapped out after market barrels on the B14R, how has that worked out for you? I want to keep the stock it came with so it limits the barrels. I would like to drop a Kreiger 1.25” in it but it won’t fit. I’m thinking of sending my barreled action to Kenny at DP Gunworks if I can get it back in a timely manner, I’ve liked what I’ve seen in improvement s with his tuneup. Thanks for the great videos.
Hi there. Thanks for posting . I guess you're at 50 yards...sorry if you stated . What bore guide did you use? I'd love to see some hunting ammo being used!. (Cos I hunt 😂}. Bedding and tuner do come to mind too. Enjoyable video.. Excellent fly results..
Try sk pistol in your bergara. Mine absolutely loved it. That long range is bloody brilliant, my vudoo also has a taste for the unobtainable 🤣🤣 Good shooting mate.
How do you manage to use a bore guide, on my B14-R the ejector that protrudes from the lower bolt channel fouls the bore guide tip? I have a Birchwood Casey guide with the interchangeable chamber tips. So, i'm going to either rod it without a guide or just use a snake or other cleaning means. Loving your videos Josh.👍
Good review, much appreciated. Just one question, when you do the barrel clean when shifting from the Eley to the SK ammo, is it your full cleaning regime (with nylon brush) or are you simply doing a simple wet patch / dry patch clean? Cheers
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the reply, I’m a new rifle shooter. Well new as in I’ve only shot supervised. Got into target shooting and now I’m hooked. Been watching your channel and it’s really helped me 👍
Nice groups from that long range. Did you check FPS on the SK? Im looking at the chassis for mine also. Ready to see your review with it. Keep up the quality videos. Thanks
Anarchy Outdoors is a cool company got a throw lever for my Athlon scope that is great quality got it quickly and funny they gave me a decal and a piece of pineapple hard candy with my order lol
Has Bergara fixed their ejection problems they seem to always have? Even if they are accurate, jams would cause me to not want the rifle. For that reason, I'm leaning toward a CZ 457.
It really wasn't a fair comparison of ammo's. The Eley tested was almost 2X the price point of the SK offerings. Lapua CX and Midas+ would have been more comparable price point. Eley Club would be more in line as comparison but I don't know anyone who shoots that.
Good day am looking for info on Bergara 14r I have been saving for one and it just came in, so what base ring’s hight are you using for 56mm Keep up the Great videos , you do a fantastic job at your RUclips channel Thanks
How does this rifle compare to the CZ 457 Varmint At-One rifle? I'm deliberating purchasing one of the two. Mission: 400-600yd shooting, with potential for competition.
I like that the krg has a full aluminum mini chassis and the options it has for arca rails, forends, etc. Its not a necessary upgrade but im not a huge fan of the feel of the factory stock either.
@@PursuitofAccuracy, hi Josh, ref the POI shift, my thought was also did you use a different magazine, the 3rd group was back, closer to the first group, so it could have been 2 magazines… Certainly something to be aware of and check…
I know that paper isn't your thing, but since you shoot the ARA target for testing. Could you shoot a ARA target like some of us do. 1 bullet per bullseye? I would like to see what a real shooter can do. It's one of the most frustrating targets I've ever shot. Thanks!
wouldn't a budget build be better suited to like a cz457 varmint AT-ONE? I love my 6.5 creedmoor b14-HMR but the $1k for a b14r price is just too rich for my blood when it seems like the cz contends with it in every aspect for less money
Just curious to see how it performed in the KRG bravo. I am debating between just getting the full up B14R or getting the barreled action and putting it in the KRG bravo. Would really like to hear if you thought the change is worth it :)
Why do you test at 50 yards? Why not at 100 yards or more? Seems like a waste. I've shot fantastic groups at 50 just to have it go bad at 100. Love the videos, keep up the good work.
50 is the starting point to all my testing. Its less effected by environmentals so its giving a better representation of the ammo and barrel. Once i initially test at 50 i push them out further
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The cz and vudoos all have shot similar or smaller groups than that for sure. But with that said 50 yard groups are not the objective. As you start pushing the distances out rifles quickly seperate. The b14r may be as good as the others but I havent really tested it at distance yet so time will tell
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@@PursuitofAccuracy I've always used this sk long range match it has won me a lot of competitions and more top 3's than I can count but the only reason I used it over center x is because it was $5 cheaper so it was a no Brainer for the same performance 🤷
Thanks Josh, I had a lot of tenex that shot really well in my bergara but only had a half a brick and when I got to the last box of course the stamp was not on it and I didn’t save any of the other boxes. Story of my life,lol So I’m going to try and play with some velocity’s in the tenex and stay away from the one you tried.
@@PursuitofAccuracy First, LOVE the channel and your content! Since its a new rifle, not your crafted rifle, perhaps the way you got on the rifle was different.
@@PursuitofAccuracy Yes I now but like your wife I don't listen to everything you say :) It would be easier and only takes a second while setting up targets. Not to worry you're not the only one.
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks and I will spread the word to other vid. makers to watch your vids. I was at the range today and two other shooters said the same thing so it's not just me. They are afraid to say anything but not me as I have been married twice and lived. lol
Sorry, but one thing that pisses me off is that LARGE MAGAZINE on a 22… like WTF? …. Its like the company is not even serious about rimfire - I’ll never ever buy a POS like that
Looks like it's shooting Minute of Fly. Not bad for right out of the box. Thanks for the video. Be Safe
Love the fly shot! I had one a couple years ago but not on film unfortunately. Well Josh love your channel man keep the great content coming. You are opening my eyes to match shooting would be very fun. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Hey brother, much appreciated! Glad to see another rimfire youtuber out and about!
Great video! I just scored 1,000 rounds of SK Long Range off the inter web. Breaking your cheek weld between strings and getting groups like that is a symptom of improper parallax adjustment.
Nice
I don't know why SK match puts you in a spot.
The long range was fantastic in that rifle
GREAT VIDEO.
It was a joke really, i prefer the silver eley for what I shoot over any of the traditional black bullets
I had my Bergara in a Bravo, did not feed consistently. Put into an Mdt, no problems now.
The bravo is pickier about mag position than the mdt for sure
Looking forward to Part 2! Now THAT is how you take care of a fly!
I'm just running one in bone stock form and have gotten .3 at 50 all day with sk red box.
Standard velocity cci I've gotten consistent .6inch.
I firmly believe this gun with a trigger job or drop in IS ABSOLUTELY the best bang for the $ . I have a 455 and had a 457 but still like that bergara bolt feel much more .
I has similar results with my Bergara @ 50 yds but the difference was 1/8" so what I do is buy the cheaper CCI ammo and just subtract 1/8" from my groups lol
My similar results are .3 inch 5 shot groupings at 50 yards from CCI Competition ammunition. Stock rifle with NF NXS 3.5-15 x 50 optic, SFP MOA scaled reticle and 1/4 minute dials. At 100 yards not quite MOA, a result I’m sure of not yet figuring out my MOA wind constant. I now believe it to be 7 and if that’s right a 10 mph full value wind would be worth about an inch and a half of favor. I’ve only had the rifle for a few days but so far I perceive the rifle shoots in the direction the barrel is pointed and the only thing precluding better results is my position not yet good enough to discern NPA as being perfected.
As a UK .22lr shooter I use Eley Sport (probably different name in USA) most of the time. A friend gave me a box of Eley Edge (cases are black - no longer made) to try, 🙂 did like the way they grouped
I have a brick of Long Range Match that I haven't shot yet.
May have to give it a try but my new Vudoo shoots SK Standard just great.
Thanks for the video, Josh.
Awesome Video Buddy … And Great Shooting as always
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Lol
FWIW
I have read repeatedly and as you have stated, the B14R was built around using SK and Lapua 22lr ammo. My B14Rs loves SK ammo.
Mine shoots especially well with SK Pistol Match Special and SK Rifle Match at 50 yards. The guys in my rifle club who own Vudoos and highly customized CZ 457 MTR's are amazed how well stock B14Rs's shoot.
Well now I definitely know you can shoot on the fly, great shooting brother
Lol thanks
I’m getting .37 MOA at 50 yards, 5 shot groupings using 23 year old CCI Competition ammunition from my bone stock Bergara with a Harris bipod attached to sling swivel stud. Nice rifle, bought it used and stuck a NF 3.5-15 NXS with MOA scaled reticle and dials on it. I have not cleaned the bore and do not intend to.
Mine results were pretty much the same. Sub-par groups with anything but the SK Long Range Max. The gun was much easier to handle in the Bravo chassis as the factory one is slick as snot. Mine spends most of its time in the safe as my Tikka T1X in a boyds stock shoots everything better as does my CZ 457.
Interesting. My B14r steel barrel in the HRM stock shoots Norma TAC as well as the anything you tried today at 50 yards. Of the limited ammo I've tried, mine doesn't like Eley branded stuff very much at all. It loves Norma at 50 and even does well at 100 but falls completely apart at 200. It absolutely loves the limited amount of Lapua Midas + and Pistol match I've been able to feed it, but still, out to 50, the Norma can go toe to toe with even the Lapua with consistent .3 & .25 inch groups. Luckily I've been able to stock up on a few thousand rounds of Norma TAC since I can't get any Lapua unless our local Sportsman's Warehouse decides to carry it, which they haven't done in over a year now, and who knows if they'll continue to even stock the Norma stuff once I've bought it all🤷🏻♂️😡. Out of curiosity, what're your torque settings on the action screws!? I used 55 in/lbs and certainly have no complaints. I've got a Trigger Tech trigger on its way and since I'll have to remove the action anyway, I may play around with other settings and see what happens but I really can't imagine mine getting much better then it is.
I have similar results with Norma Tac22 Black box, not so much luck with the Norma Match. I’ve been sorting them by weight and the results have improved a little. My rifle does not like any Eley ammo and it shoots the SK ammo very well when I can find it.
@Luther Price interesting about it not liking Norma Match. Wonder why. Sadly, I used up all my SK ammo in my T1x back when I thought I could get a regular supply. I was recently able to grab 500 rounds of Midas +. Looking forward to seeing how it does at 100 - 200 yards. And how the T1x and B14 compare at those distances with that ammo.
The Black box Tac22 is a faster round than the Match, 1083 vs 1100 by their testing but the Match has a smaller weight deviation 52.6-53.0grs, the Tac22 is 52.4-53.4grs with the largest percentage at 52.8-53.0grs. I’m very happy with the Norma as a whole and I like the cost also😂
@Luther Price great info! And you bet, the Tac 22 is a bargain, at least for my 2 .22s, but it seems to do well in about every test with every .22 I've seen. It's like they've found a Goldilocks spot between performance and price.
I no longer use any SK/Lapua ammo. There would always be one or two flyers per box of 50.
If that's a newly setup rifle it's possible something shifted or settled to cause the POI shift. I also had a brand new scope from a reputable company where the reticle would randomly shift under recoil(found out after sending it in for repair). It was really only the second group that shifted. First, third and fifth had the same POI. However, your "flier" on the fifth matches the location of the second group. Maybe try shooting a group...giving the scope a smack with your hand and see if there's a POI shift.
Good results there. I use SK long rang match for general practice. But I have not yet found anything the shoots as well as RWS R50.
Keep up the good work
I agree, RWS 50 = Amazing
Great job. Down range camera is outstanding.
Have the same rifle. Same results. After trying at least 15 different variations of match ammo. It shoot the SK long range match way better than anything I’ve tried.
Factory barrel may be chambered with a lapua favoring reamer.
Great video Josh. I'm now looking for a Bergara B14R. 🤨 to go with my CZ 457 MTR.. Another rabbit hole !!!
This place is full of rabbit holes brother, ive managed to fall down them all
@@PursuitofAccuracy I actually picked up a used B14R from a local shooter. About 500 rounds thru it. Really good shape, scope base and three mags.
@@terrykleypas50 nice
Josh, SK long range three groups @.23 pretty impressive.......... steal all that ammo from Chris,that rifle will be good to go !!!
He shot it all.......lol
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Thanks for doing the test in the stock chassis.
Mine absolutely hated everything but norma tac 22 it was the only thing I could get sub Moa with I tried 10 different kinds of 22 ammo. Only part I regret about getting rid of my tikka it did well with a bunch of different ammo. Thanks for the great video.
Yeah we always miss the ones we let go haha
I have 5. .22 rifles 1. Anschutz 54 and 2. Walther KK UIT Spezial Match and a Kimber 82G and a Bergara with a Bartlein barrel on it. They all hate Tenex they all love Norma-Tac at 50 yards and the New recipe Norma-Tac is pretty darned good at 100 yards they slowed it down to 1080 and made it more consistant velocity wise. SK Standard Plus and Eley Match only 1. lot so far out of 4. lots tried. Eley Club and they love RWS Match and Wolf Match Target and Wolf Match Extra and even CCI Standard. Now that being said, For the Excessive Price that Tenex costs it should somehow shoot better or at least be delivered by a good looking college coed in a short skirt with beer and pizza so i at least i am getting something for my $$$$$$$$$ Tenex is consistant, consistantly bad in my rifles. I wish SK Match and LR Match were more available.
Lol with anything else in that price point lot testing is key. Your rifle may hate 9 out of 10 lots and do something amazing with the 10th lot.
Ask me how I know.......but dont ask my wife.....she doesnt know how much ive spent testing 22lr match ammo 🤣🤣🤣
With my eyes if I don’t get exactly in the same spot and focal point behind the scope my shots do the same thing. It may not be what caused your shift, but it does do it to me, but I shoot with glasses as well.
Sounds like you may be fighting parallax issues with your optic
@@PursuitofAccuracy Exactly, but it’s my eyes not the scope..lol.
@@tmurray1972 contacts? Lol
@@PursuitofAccuracy Strong glasses, it does it on all my scopes, too many lenses to aline perfectly is my guess.
When you start getting that level of accuracy, slight changes in position or hold from group to grout will manifest on the target and be lost in the noise of groups in the .5 inch plus groups.
came for the support. stayed to watch round two of fly assassin.
Thanks brother
Thanks Josh miss the CZ’s but appreciate all the info on the bergara’s
Cz coming back soon
Nice fly elimination!
I needed a fly shooter, thanks for making up my mind.
I want to know more of the bromance between the ginger and the Viking that’s a whole lot of shed time gentlemen.
Shed time is quality time
@@PursuitofAccuracy whether it’s a bat cave or a man cave it’s never a bad time …
I have the carbon, and not that I’ve tried as much ammo as you have, I am getting good results, .25-.35” groups at 50 yards with SK Standard plus.
Good shooting josh I have never shot th sk long range match may have to try as well seen two bricks the other day lol
Different grouping, I believe we subconsciously follow the first shot sometimes
This is why I prefer using the scopecam vs the down range camera haha
I'm amazed that it shoots such tight groups right out of the box with just a trigger upgrade. My gun likes SK, shoots SK Biathlon and Long Range match about the same, with SK Pistol match being just as good at 50 yds but not at 100 yds (it's pretty slow).
Yeah its been a good gun
Looking forward to part 2
My new B14R does very well with SK match Rifle, SK Match pistol special, Eley Team and RWS rifle match
Did not like Eley Match
But everything else under .5 moa at 50
Always get a like for fly murders
Lol thanks
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Great video Josh
Thanks
Good video Josh, I purchased the Bergara B14R, it shoots great even though I am using cheap ammo, I am happy to have it, I will try the ones you recommend, by the way if you know a bipod base for picatinny rail, I will really appreciate it, because the ones I found they are not flat and they don’t work good with the rifle, thanks in advance 👍
Pic is not my expertise as all my stuff is arca
The Caldwell pic rail adapter plate does fine on my bolt action rifles, sturdy three rail and uses the sling stud to mount, look on Amazon
You got me at the fly im getting a Bergara
Lol
The fly! Haha great stuff
Thall shall not pass! 🤣🤣
Hey Josh
Love the channel and the way you present your videos. Heaps of great info and insight.
Two quick questions/comments.
Firstly, not having a go at your abilities, but when group testing why not use something like a Caldwell sled or something similar to eliminate “shooter” from the results. I have a mate who suggested setting up in a vice, but I wonder if that would upset harmonics, maybe not if the barrel is totally free floated. Maybe there is another video!
Secondly, to remove wind as much as possible why not shoot at say 25 or 20 yards. Obviously you will get smaller groups but the relative accuracy should be comparable, groups being angular measurement, but cutting out wind
Your thoughts?
Hey Mike.
Honestly with a good bipod and rear bag at 50 there isnt much shooter in the equation.
At 25 ive found most ammo shoots one hole with very little variation in group sizes.
Never been a fan of the sleds etc. They are less stable and less comfortable than the bipod and bag as well.
Its also putting something between your shoulder and the rifle making the lop longer than it would otherwise be on the bench in my setup.
Any reason for not using the carbon fiber version? I'm planning on buying one and not sure to go with steel barrel or carbon fiber barrel.
The steel have been more consistently good than the carbon
I have the Carbon, its good. but I'm not sure about it yet. I have a Lilja blank ordered for it. Mine also likes the SK, Wolf, RWS. Most of my ammo is 10-15years old also lol. Headspace was .0455 from factory. I shimmed it to .0425. It seemed to help a tiny bit. Made a tuner for it. I think the carbon needs a heavy tuner weight to affect the harmonics. I would go for the Steel barrel, I think. The Carbon is supposed to hold a better cold barrel zero. I have not checked that out yet. May not since I'm rebarreling. The carbon barrel is tensioned. The nut that holds the carbon sleeve on tensions the barrel like prestressed concrete.
Enjoyed this a lot as a new shooter but......what happens to the same loads out to a hundred? Or 200 as the PRS is want to do.
Love my Bergarra and am watching to find ways to increase performance & complete with the pros from Dover....
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Nice review, just getting into 22lr. Can you provide part 2 of this budget review ?
Hey Josh, I’ve seen in past videos you’ve swapped out after market barrels on the B14R, how has that worked out for you? I want to keep the stock it came with so it limits the barrels. I would like to drop a Kreiger 1.25” in it but it won’t fit. I’m thinking of sending my barreled action to Kenny at DP Gunworks if I can get it back in a timely manner, I’ve liked what I’ve seen in improvement s with his tuneup. Thanks for the great videos.
Hi there.
Thanks for posting .
I guess you're at 50 yards...sorry if you stated .
What bore guide did you use?
I'd love to see some hunting ammo being used!. (Cos I hunt 😂}.
Bedding and tuner do come to mind too.
Enjoyable video..
Excellent fly results..
Try sk pistol in your bergara.
Mine absolutely loved it.
That long range is bloody brilliant, my vudoo also has a taste for the unobtainable 🤣🤣
Good shooting mate.
Thanks Daniel
Do you use a bore guide when you clean a rifle ?
How do you manage to use a bore guide, on my B14-R the ejector that protrudes from the lower bolt channel fouls the bore guide tip? I have a Birchwood Casey guide with the interchangeable chamber tips.
So, i'm going to either rod it without a guide or just use a snake or other cleaning means.
Loving your videos Josh.👍
I use the boretech guide rod. It has a half moon shape so it clears all the ejectors etc
Good review, much appreciated. Just one question, when you do the barrel clean when shifting from the Eley to the SK ammo, is it your full cleaning regime (with nylon brush) or are you simply doing a simple wet patch / dry patch clean? Cheers
Typically just patches to get the old lube out
Good video
Thanks man
Great video, do you clean the barrel between each batch of ammo or each brand?? Looking to do this when my B14R comes
Sometimes yes but usually im just gonna foul it with the new ammo 10 rounds or so
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the reply, I’m a new rifle shooter. Well new as in I’ve only shot supervised. Got into target shooting and now I’m hooked. Been watching your channel and it’s really helped me 👍
Hey Josh! Quick question if I could ...
Did you have to remove the bolt release on your Timney Hit for it to fit in the Bergara? Thanks for you time!
I didnt
@@PursuitofAccuracy Ty 😊 🙏
@@CountryRimfire np
Nice groups from that long range. Did you check FPS on the SK? Im looking at the chassis for mine also. Ready to see your review with it. Keep up the quality videos. Thanks
I havent put it over the chrono yet
Anarchy Outdoors is a cool company got a throw lever for my Athlon scope that is great quality got it quickly and funny they gave me a decal and a piece of pineapple hard candy with my order lol
Lol yeah they always candy up the stuff they ship out lol
Has Bergara fixed their ejection problems they seem to always have? Even if they are accurate, jams would cause me to not want the rifle. For that reason, I'm leaning toward a CZ 457.
I really havent had any issues with ejection on any of the bergaras ive had or shot
Which bore guide are you using?
Great video. Love your content. For this rifle set up, do you know the torque settings you used for the action mounting screws?
65 in lbs
Why change chassis to another?
Ha ha ha 😂 good one Chris 👍
It really wasn't a fair comparison of ammo's. The Eley tested was almost 2X the price point of the SK offerings. Lapua CX and Midas+ would have been more comparable price point. Eley Club would be more in line as comparison but I don't know anyone who shoots that.
The video was shot to see which ammo, I currently had, would work best in that barrel.
Good day am looking for info on Bergara 14r I have been saving for one and it just came in, so what base ring’s hight are you using for 56mm
Keep up the Great videos , you do a fantastic job at your RUclips channel Thanks
I use a 30 moa base with medium rings or a mount
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank You for the info
How does this rifle compare to the CZ 457 Varmint At-One rifle? I'm deliberating purchasing one of the two. Mission: 400-600yd shooting, with potential for competition.
Really just depends on whether you want rem700 capatability or not. 400-600 is gonna take a lot of ammo testing
@@PursuitofAccuracy I don't need the rem700 support. So the CZ becomes the better bang for buck?
@@kitsune4635 yeah and better aftermarket barrel support. If your looking at 400-600 yards your probably gonna end up down that road sooner vs later
Yep 3 5 shot .25 groups that are in 3 different places is a 15 shot .75 group. Nice fly kill.
What do you call a fly with no wings? A walk.
Lol
Josh, what does the KRG stock give you that the factory stock is lacking?
I like that the krg has a full aluminum mini chassis and the options it has for arca rails, forends, etc.
Its not a necessary upgrade but im not a huge fan of the feel of the factory stock either.
You shot a fly 😂
The groups with the sk long range did you use the same mag in all 3 groups? Just curious could be the reason of slight poi change
Im 80% sure it was all the same magazine
I am going to guess- Cheek placement or stock placement on the rear bag..who knows
@@PursuitofAccuracy, hi Josh, ref the POI shift, my thought was also did you use a different magazine, the 3rd group was back, closer to the first group, so it could have been 2 magazines…
Certainly something to be aware of and check…
I know that paper isn't your thing, but since you shoot the ARA target for testing. Could you shoot a ARA target like some of us do. 1 bullet per bullseye?
I would like to see what a real shooter can do. It's one of the most frustrating targets I've ever shot. Thanks!
Next time im out there I will shoot an entire card for score
Barreled action or the heavy barrel action
Id go heavy just for the balance
wouldn't a budget build be better suited to like a cz457 varmint AT-ONE? I love my 6.5 creedmoor b14-HMR but the $1k for a b14r price is just too rich for my blood when it seems like the cz contends with it in every aspect for less money
The b14r is a trainer so it may fill a void that the 457, t1x, etc cant.
Wanna sell that Begera stock? Great video! Love my B14R, just added a CZ457 to my addiction.
It was donated to a local gentleman already
Just curious to see how it performed in the KRG bravo. I am debating between just getting the full up B14R or getting the barreled action and putting it in the KRG bravo. Would really like to hear if you thought the change is worth it :)
The krg offers more flexibility down the road for accessories. But stock to stock your not gonna see much difference
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks! I will keep an eye out for a deal on the barreled action or the full up rifle and go from there :)
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Looks like ur at Chris's range
Yeah i either go to chris's range or Gasdsen shooting center
@@PursuitofAccuracy pretty cool I didn't know you lived close
@@Lowballinoutdoorz I live in NC but im in Missourri an hour from Chris until November
Everyone talks like the TT triggers are the best, curious why you chose the Hit instead.
Honestly just because ive seen a few of the tt diamonds fail on vudoos. The timney just never seem to quit working.
I like both equally as far as feel
Why do you test at 50 yards? Why not at 100 yards or more? Seems like a waste. I've shot fantastic groups at 50 just to have it go bad at 100.
Love the videos, keep up the good work.
50 is the starting point to all my testing.
Its less effected by environmentals so its giving a better representation of the ammo and barrel.
Once i initially test at 50 i push them out further
How do yo think the SKLR will go at 200+? Be great to see a test at distance.
That will definitely be a future video. Gonna test the eley vs lr at distance
What distance was that? 50yds?
Yeah
If that is the weirdest thing you have ever seen i'm guessing you have never been to thailand.
Lmao
LOL
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The cz and vudoos all have shot similar or smaller groups than that for sure.
But with that said 50 yard groups are not the objective. As you start pushing the distances out rifles quickly seperate.
The b14r may be as good as the others but I havent really tested it at distance yet so time will tell
@@PursuitofAccuracy you didn't really answer my question on video was the question.... And I agree 100 yrd n up separates men from the boyz!!!! PLUS THE BERGARA WAS STOCK UNTIL U THROW DIFFERENT CHASSIS ON IT.... BUT THIS IS " RUclips " MAKE IT WHAT U WANT I GUESS.. WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE IT ALL STOCK MATCHED UP AGAINST UR PRICEY UPGRADES LIKE MATCHED BARRELS N SUCH.... JUST SAYIN. KEEP UR GR8 VIDEOS ROLLIN THNX SO MUCH😎😎
I use SK pistol match
What kind/size rings are those? 30 MOA rail?
Those were athlon low 34mm rings i believe
Thanks man! I have a Bergara barreled action coming in and was actually looking at that scope.
@@r.j.fensjr.8116 the riton?
Yes
@@r.j.fensjr.8116 lots of scopes in that price range. Id take a look at all of em and see which features make sense for you
So did you get the fly cheers Yogi 🇦🇺🤙🤙
Oh yeah the fly got smoked
Pursuit of Accuracy nice shot bro well done cheers Yogi 🇦🇺🤙🤙
Sadly SK is stopping the production of Long range match... It's been my go to ammo since I started
Interesting. Im not gonna lie.......i was gonna find eley match that shot in it anyways. The eley at distsnce has always worked better for me
@@PursuitofAccuracy I've always used this sk long range match it has won me a lot of competitions and more top 3's than I can count but the only reason I used it over center x is because it was $5 cheaper so it was a no Brainer for the same performance 🤷
@@greedyboy11 yeah its good ammo. I just cant bring myself to give up the benefits of the silver eley eps bullet.
Josh what was the tenex lot number if you don’t care to share.
James it was 1022-06017
Thanks Josh, I had a lot of tenex that shot really well in my bergara but only had a half a brick and when I got to the last box of course the stamp was not on it and I didn’t save any of the other boxes. Story of my life,lol So I’m going to try and play with some velocity’s in the tenex and stay away from the one you tried.
Wow ... Conquer 4-32 at $1979.99 MSRP ! not so much for a budget ...
Its a video about the rifle. The optic is going to change for everyone use case scenario.
cool video brother. did you move in? lol
Lol nearly
I’m always disappointed when I watch videos on RUclips on the Bergara trainer. Mine shoots .180-.187 @ 50. Shooting Midas Plus.
Every rifle is gonna have that magic lot. Ive had the bergaras shoot really well for me as well
...Well it sounds like the SHOOTER did something different!
Everything was shot the same
@@PursuitofAccuracy
Okay then it must be MAGIC!
@@Redacted-Information if I knew what you were suggesting id know how to respond.
What is it exactly you think was done differently or magically
@@PursuitofAccuracy
First, LOVE the channel and your content!
Since its a new rifle, not your crafted rifle, perhaps the way you got on the rifle was different.
@@Redacted-Information ah got ya haha. Honestly im always trying to shoot every rifle and ammo the same to not influence any outcomes.
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Bitte für ein echten Munitions test die Waffe fest einspannen. Und aus mindestens zwei losen einer Munitionssorte den Streukreis ermitteln.
can you guys do us all a favour and write on the target what yardage you are at :)
I try to always say it during the video
@@PursuitofAccuracy Yes I now but like your wife I don't listen to everything you say :)
It would be easier and only takes a second while setting up targets.
Not to worry you're not the only one.
@@DLN-ix6vf hahahaha.
I will try and think about it when editing and put it on the target
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks and I will spread the word to other vid. makers to watch your vids.
I was at the range today and two other shooters said the same thing so it's not just me. They are afraid to say anything but not me as I have been married twice and lived. lol
That was some weird grouping.
Yeah
If want a accurate gun that fails to feed eject and unreliable this is the piece of junk your looking for
🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, but one thing that pisses me off is that LARGE MAGAZINE on a 22… like WTF? …. Its like the company is not even serious about rimfire - I’ll never ever buy a POS like that
They are intended to be trainers so the mags are made to aics specs which also allows the use of 700 rem foot print chassis etc
Savage has a small mag ☺ ☺