DCS: Enigma's Cold War Tutorial - A Complete Guide to the Troop Drop Mechanic
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- We're going to learn everything about the troop drop mechanic for Enigma's Cold War Server in this video. This tutorial will show you how the troop drop mechanic works on Enigma's Cold War Server. We'll examine troop types that can be loaded into helicopters on the ECW server, we'll take a look at the numbers of troops in each squad, we'll take a look at how many seats helicopters have, and we'll take a look at how the weights of the soldiers differ by sides. To top it off we are going to go through every phase of a helicopter mission in relation to the troop drop mechanic and very clearly tell you how it gets done. After watching this video you'll be able to log onto Enigma's Cold War Server and understand what you need to do to use your helicopter of choice in combat using deploy-able ground forces.
just picked up the MI-8 and having a blast with it, wanted to get into Enigmas cold war and this video was EXACTLY what i need, and only 4k subs? super underrated, see you in the skies!
Damn thanks man I really appreciate that! Hope to see you out there man! Congrats on picking up the Hip!
Everything I needed, man! This needs to be a linked vid in the ECW tutorials playlist.
Awesome to hear that. Thanks man !
A very much needed video. Thank you, sir, and congrats on all this great new content you've been kicking out!
Thank you man ! I appreciate it !
Very useful! I'd just been attacking targets with my Huey and hadn't considered troop drops still I started playing ECW, many thanks!
No problem I'm glad it helped! Troop drops in helicopters are a great way to help your side out!
The hip currently has a bug where it doesn’t have any recon troops.
For how long has this bug been on the game?
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@@yinkism if I shout it loud enough it’ll become true. Trust me bro.
First of all great Video.
But is it possible to Pick up Recon troops with the Hip that has been dropped by a Mi24 and use them?
I didn't know this, and I don't play on the enigma server, and it will come in handy during the winter when I have more time, thanks for the detailed information and the nice recording 🤗🤗👌👌
Glad I could help!
Didn’t realize Recon only revealed after pickup - that’s good to inowb
Maybe this has changed recently as I’ve been using recon for the last few days and the targets have appeared before I picked up the troops. Also got the message in the top right hand saying what they had discovered.
I'm new to DCS and this is very helpful!
Welcome aboard. That is wonderful to hear, thank you for stopping by. I'm glad to hear this was helpful!
Useful video. I was actually asking questions about the troop drops in the discord yesterday and you helped me out. I had issues not being able to drop troops and I'm pretty sure it was from the enemy hex being flipped to friendly while I was en route to the drop location.
Thanks, Eske.
Ah glad you got it figured out! Yeah it’s a good thing to periodically check the hex state as the ticks happen every 15 minutes but if it flips to your side great job you probably contributed to it flipping!
1 recon squad for the Hip would be awesome but maybe it´s too poweful then. I've found that I'm often the only one who really uses the Hind's recon forces and that its too time consuming to fly around in the Hip searching for targets without someone doing recon...
Great video 👍
Thank you! Yeah I think they believe it’s too OP but really no one knows for sure how it would play because it has never been tried. I think a fair way to do it if that is the biggest worry is to make Hip recon like that in jets where you must return your recon troops to the base for the recon to count. That would make one recon effectively take 30 minutes or so in total for most farp to front flights and back.
@@ryu1940 I flew the Hip yesterday and I really think it would be OP with recons. Erased 3 sectors on my own with a little luck with troop placement. 12 Troops are definetly enough
@@Fumes1-3how do you know you got everything?
Finished the video, good stuff man. I don't play ECW yet but given that I'll be on the hind I'll probably do 2 recon squads, fly in drop one, fly further into enemy Territory outside of their recon area and drop the second one. That gives an me an big recon area and i get the chance to light up any enemies I see on the way
This is a very smart tactic and how I recommend others do it too! Great idea man! By the time you drop the second one you can fly back towards the first drop cus they will almost be all done with their mission.
Thank you so much ! i've been felling a bit lost on helos in EWC but not anymore!!!
Wonderful I’m happy to hear that!
Great Vid! I'm also looking forward to the CSAR option to be added again soon.
Thank you! Yeah it’ll be really good when csar comes back now that we have all these different things to contend with.
Great video that helped me get into some fun UH-1 missions. Next step is getting better at landing the Hind. I don't own the Hip yet but maybe at the next sales event, got the F15-E this time round.
That is great to hear. I’m glad it helped. I love the Hip and it’s definitely worth the $25 bucks when it’s on sale like this.
Thanks man, this is great information. I have been busy, but I need to get back in there. Thanks for all you do for us!
No problem man thank you for watching ! I’m glad it was helpful! See you in there when you get a chance. I’ve been busy too making this and other things going on. Can’t wait to fly again.
This is great. I can now fly my huey in there and know what to do!
That’s awesome to hear man!
The MAGIC HiP Bus!!
Very helpfull and entertainingly serverd.keep up the great work!
Awesome to hear that, thank you!
Brilliant video. Thanks for the info!
Thanks and thanks for watching !
Thanks for making me understand !! Awesome video
No problem! I am happy to hear it is helpful !
for drop distances you should include NM (Nautical Miles) as thats what the F10 uses.
You could actually change it. I’ve used NM in the past but now my F10 is set up to show KM.
Hey there. Thanks for this awesome video. Just a noob question here from someone who's never played on this server (or MP at all).
What happens if you die with the squad on board? Or if you don't pick them up? Is there a negative effect on the side more than if I died empty?
I’m not sure actually. I don’t think there is an impactful difference whether you die with them onboard or not. Airframes have an attrition value that applies to the side but I don’t know if additional ground attrition is applied to the soldiers you carry.
Thanks for this. I am definetely getting a helo.
That’s awesome to hear! My pleasure. I’m glad it’s helpful!
@@ryu1940 Oh massively, doing a trail program on the Apache, Hind and Gazele and really got the helo bug but had no idea how this all worked. Massive help!
super useful video thank you!
Great to hear that. I’m glad you’ve found it helpful!
Thank you again for the great info
You deserve a medal :-D
Haha thank you! I’m just happy when more helicopters show up on the server. It’s awesome.
Fantastic video. Great job
Thanks man!
Man those standard troops are beefy as fuck. 4km in 3 min! I too love to sprint w/ 50lbs of gear for 3 min straight hitting ~50 MPH in my stride :p
You miscalculate, they run 4km to the target AND 4km back so the little buggers are actually breaking into triple figures.
Very informative!
Thank you!
That intro music ❤❤
I love using it for tutorials. Really has the let’s jump into it vibe lol
Question: How do you know where and how many troops are actually needed?
Excellent question. If no recon is done and you don’t see orange circles on the F10 map indicating the location of enemy troops you won’t really know. You’ll have to just visually spot them on the front line and take a guess as to how many are in the area when you drop your troops. I usually always drop two standard squads and iirc that is usually enough to destroy one full group. It’s possible if another group is nearby you may kill from the two different groups so the groups will still have remaining survivors requiring another drop.
Thank you
Thank you for watching!
great video. answered a lot of questions i had, i do have two more
1 if attacking an oil rig where do you drop the troops?
2 if you allow troops to despawn does that affects the time as if losing an aircraft ? points wise i.e does a side lose points if troops despawn
Thank you! 1: you can land right on the oil rig or touch the water in a hover and they will come out. I have a video on my channel showing an oil rig attack.
#2 I am not sure if attrition of ground troops is factored into the side points calculations.
@@ryu1940 awesome thanks! I'll check it out
I've been taking 2 infantry and 2 SOF on every flight so I have enough to take out anything I might come across, and still have enough troops if I lose some during pickup/dropoff. Might go back to just 3 infantry as I haven't been having much luck with infrastructure targets.
That’s generally what I’ve been going back and forth between. I like the 2/2 combo incase someone starts doing recon I can go after infrastructure and since I mostly go after one camp at a time the 8 standard troops is always enough to wipe an enemy camp out in one go.
Just picked up the Gazelle during sale. Now i Need to work on my landings a bit, then I will give this a try. The Mistral is not allowed, right?
Oh nice picking up the Gaz. I am not sure if it still not allowed or not as I haven’t flown in a couple months but there was a sentiment if the FM of the missile was fixed they would add it back in. I know the Gaz has had some work done so I wonder if the missile was updated and made suitable to work on the server now.
This is my first time online. I know about the Hexes and where to spawn, I usually fly the HIP so troop transport is my bag. After you load the troops you find anywhere in the opposite Hexes and just place your troops or are you looking for something specific. Sorry if this is a stupid question but I never played online before.
Not a stupid question at all. You have to find troop concentrations on the enemy side. These will be trucks or tanks and some AAA. They are usually in the open and typically situated along the border with your side hexes. So the easiest thing to do is fly to the front line and fly a few kilometers in enemy territory then fly parallel to the front.
Once you find an enemy concentration you must land a standard squad of troops within 4km of the enemy. They will kill on a 1 to 1 basis meaning a squad of 4 soldiers will kill 4 enemy units after you drop them in range. The timer to kill regular enemy with a standard squad is 3 minutes
@@ryu1940 Thank you very much. I will go online and see if I do not die within 10 minutes...lol.
thank you again
@@MrGoodnite44 no problem! Good luck !
A useful vid 👏
I’m glad to hear that, thank you!
Guessing CSAR currently isn't an available option?
Yeah it’s being reworked at the moment and will be added in later is what I heard.
@@ryu1940 CSAR's always been my preferred role when it comes to helis, but have in fact been enjoying the new troop transport system quite a bit too
Do you find it exhausting to fly this thing long ranges? I know there is a basic altitude / heading hold, but even that seems to need adjusting every couple seconds. If its 20+ minutes to the target I find myself getting really sloppy / tired. Just me?
I always hand fly it and use trim. For the most part it requires periodic adjusting but I kind of find it relaxing. If I’m flying a long range raid usually I’ll have a few steering points so I’m really focused on flying a course to a landmark and that keeps me busy. I dunno maybe I’m strange but I love flying the thing lol
I normally like to play with friends but sometimes they can't play or due different timezones, I'm by myself. What do you think about playin in Enigma's alone? Is it viable or fun to go around dropping troops?
I've been going solo in mi-8 and it's been fun. Doing drops into enemy airfields has been exciting because you have to sneak past all enemy players and air defense, I'll literally be shaking while doing the handing because of how tense it is.
It’s fun. I actually prefer flying the Hip by myself. Of course until they get multicrew added for it. The Hip surviving depends on not being detected and if there are a few of you flying close together the odds of detection go up. I think two separate hips would be good for attacking an airbase or a factor. You could work together to take down the air defense then attack together. But I always fly alone haha
@@akihikotanakashi6392do you normally destroy the air defenses first or just sneak by?
@@TheCth777 I generally try to take them out. It's possible to avoid them if you fly low enough but taking them out helps your team in the area too.
Sof x2 and standard x2 in hip currently
That’s a pretty solid one I use a lot too!
Sir!! have questions. I drop 2 recons and they found some info around there. the orange circles show on the map before pick them up? I picked them up and died soon after and change my helo with SOF. some time later the orange circles(around enemy airbase) are gone!! wonder why? Also after that I drop my SOF near workshops. there were 4 workshops very close each other. SOF blows 2of them visually but still the Orange circle remains on map. And soon the message said 'resession'? then seems the server reset itself. I look around the map after that and confirm 4 workshops still on map and 2 destroyed work shop come back alive visually :( Could you explain a bit about this? why orange circles are not match at all on the map and what is resession? please
Sometimes the Orange circles take a little bit of time to update. Eventually they go away if something is destroyed. The server resets every 4 hours so maybe you were close to the server ending and then that is why it reset. Also some times if they admins want to put a new patch to the server they may restart it between the normal 4 hours.
good video, only i missing how to find on the map where to drop them? where is to best spot, like if i drop them on enemy area, if they will not find anything? can i redeploy them somewhere else? or i have to RTB ?
Yes you can redeploy them infinitely if they find or do not find targets. I always just land within the range of the type of troops I’m carrying so if it’s 4km range then I find a target maybe from recon or I just see it with my eyeballs and then land a little ways away. You may need to use your ruler in the f10 map to find a good spot to land.
@@ryu1940 nice, thank you very much. I fly with Mi24. So i guess best will be SOF unit or recon
@@MyMatK sounds good. With recon you drop anywhere and you will see ground targets if they are within 12.5km and infrastructure targets 25km. With SOF you need to get very close so you must be very careful and take out nearby AA
Can you show how to survive in a helo in ECW? I startup, load troops and get popped by a fast mover after a few minutes of flight :P
Yeah I can make a video like that in the future. I usually touch upon it in some of my videos but some important things to do is to maneuver if you detect a plane by noise or visually. Do some large direction change when they turn away because they are going to look back at the direction they thought you were going first as they circle around. Another thing I do a lot with clouds now is fly into the shadier parts of the the map. Instead of being a dark colored dot among a brightly lit ground behind you, be dark dot with a dark shady background if you could help it. It will be harder for jets to see. Of course don't fly high as well but sometimes it can't be avoided and you'll have to fly high a little to understand the lay of the land before you can fly low and fast yet feel confident you wont run over an enemy vulcan waiting for you. My next video is going to be documentary style but maybe after that I can do something like this.
@@ryu1940 Thank you for the tips! Will trie. Your videos are awesome!
@@Rhinozherous thank you I’m glad you enjoy them !
So the standard troops also able to attack depots and factory..everything. then who like to use SOF? SOF is able to attack units?No? and they seems short operation range within smaller group.. then what is advantage for SOF? Seems none to me.
No the standard troops can only attack regular military units like tanks and SAMs etc. they can’t attack depots, infrastructure, or factories. You must use SOF for those types of targets.
Sometimes I bring regular standard troops with me to kill any air defense around a factory or depot of infrastructure target that I may be attacking with my SOF troops.
Hey, thanks for the video! I usually go with 2 or 3 standard squads unless I want to go to a factory or depot in which case I do 2 standard and 1 SOF. I have a question though, I dropped 3 standard squad next to a small town with a bunch of ground targets and I got a message that my troops where KIA after the 3min finished. Does that mean they were more ennemy targets than troops? TIA
No, they should be recoverable. It’s likely they walked out into an area and then were discovered by the ai and destroyed. It happens from time to time.
@@ryu1940 Ok Cool thanks for the reply and thanks again for the very nice videos, came at the perfect time for me, I just got the Mi8 for the 14days trial.
@@TheSisi37 oh that’s awesome! It’s a great one to catch on sale. Well worth it!
Do standard troops only attack targets revealed by recon?
No they will destroy any enemy units within 4km whether or not targets have been identified by recon or not.
How to navigate the submenu for airborne troops? I press 2, and all it does is make me jump into my navigators seat?
You must use the F keys like F1, F2, F3, etc
@@ryu1940 thanks I did but then it showed a 2. then I could go no further.... Really weird?
@@dendroaspis8378 are you in the right submenu you ? You need to hit the radio command then F10 for Other and then in there you should see menu items for troop orders iirc.
@@ryu1940 yip.... Radio menu then F7 I think.... Then it showed a "2" for troop options... I could not press 2....the other options were F11 to go back (I think) and F12 to exit.
@@dendroaspis8378 I can say for certain it is F10 first for the OTHER menu not F7 for AIRBORNE TROOPS. From F10 it is then F2 for TROOP ORDERS and then F1 to load troops F2 to drop troops F3 Display Passengers and F4 to Display Nearest CSAR.
Give that a try if you haven't been hitting F10 OTHER first.
Wait wait wait, I thought we were the fatty's in the west; why are Eastern troops 20kg's heavier!?!
i flew to several "O" markers and saw no flares :(
You need to click on the circle and see if it says troops waiting for exfil. Some circles are just enemy troop locations and infrastructure targets uncovered by recon and would not be shooting flares.
There’s always a possibility it bugged out but generally the troops will be sort of close to where you dropped them off. The flares in day time can be hard to see. I have trouble with this sometimes if it’s really bright out.
!hexmap
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Useless weight! Thats a horrible thing to say about a soldier! lol
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No problem!
pls gib new hexmap video command broke ihate u
They will change it to something else if I updated the video