Mind blown guruji, i once broke the 180° while shooting a short but i used a oner for it... Tbh i had no idea, great cinematographers like you existed in India until i a few years ago when i got ur channel...
On set for features or episodic TV, no one ever talked about the 180 degree rule. Some mention may have been spoken about "the line." In rehearsal, actors see the camera placement thereby establishing the line and they adjust accordingly--on union shoots.
Great video! Need to watch it a few times to fully understand. I reckon that the 1.37:1 ratio greatly influences the shot compositions. OSS are more common in wider aspect ratios. Googled the prime lens used. I knew it was neither wide angle not telefocus. It's s 50mm. Looked a little wider, 40-ish to me, but I'm still learning. Anyway, this is gold! Thank you!
The cut between 2:03 and 2:05 is a definite jump. The doorway cannot be there in 2:05 if the actors' marks are as in 2:03. However, there is no issue for the viewer because the master Ozu has confused them sufficiently breaking the 180 rules in previous shots!
Best 180 degree rule breaking scene was in Christopher Nolan's movie Following in which two actors physically move from one sids to another to Break the rule It was awesome
I don't mean this in a snide way, but why would you do this? Some of the scenes seem pretty simple. Like conversations or a character moving through rooms. Why disorient your audience.i understand if it's for the theme or fits some sort of conflict.But other than this, i can only see it as lack of set space or laziness.
Questio, because im still fairly new to this: Does the interrogation scene from inglorious basterds count as well? Because the camera rotates past the 180 around the table
@@wolfcrow now i feel silly. I just looked at the scene again and it is the cut less than a minute later. The moment, when hans pulls out his big pipe.
Arguably the most famous break of the rule is the bathroom scene with "Grady" in The Shining. ruclips.net/video/XnxgYYfIooc/видео.html A complete 180 degree switch at least twice in the first 2 1/2 minutes of 5 minute scene. Though both characters are in frame, full body or waist up, each time, cut, it's still jarring somewhat, being that the information in scene both sides is very similar, with mirrors, urinals switching sides, colors and overall emotion of setting stays same imo. Would be interesting to know reasons for this rule break and why Kubrick did it. Anyone? thanks.
what would be the mathematical equation to describe upside down video? we've got 180 degrees for the two dimensional representation, upside down would bring in at least another coordinate, yea? BTW, I absolutely LOVE your videos and get smarter each time I watch them. Please keep posting!!!!!
I don't have the slightest idea what the 180 degree rule means. All I know is that these films , especially the Noriko Trilogy, are movie masterpieces.
i still find no reason to break this rule..it doesnt look too natural:) although he did a good job i still find it a bit confusing/un-natural and too risky ..a bit pointless... maybe:) but i do agree that sometimes is good to break some rules ...
Breaking the rule has a somewhat jarring effect, so for example if two characters are talking, and one of the characters reveals a new important piece of information which shifts the tone of the scene, then breaking the 180 degree rule could be a good idea. Also as an example (also presented in the video), you can use it to disorient the viewer, so for example if character is lost in a maze, you can emphasize the effect by breaking the rule.
That's exactly the reason. He doesn't want to do it the "natural" way, that's what makes him unique. He doesn't want to be basic just like all the other directors. Do you think he'll become well known if he done it the normal way like everybody else? Of course not.
Oh, I thought you were talking about former trampoline gymnast and now high level German politician Annalena Baerbock. One of the many many many non-STEM capable women that confuse 180 with 360 degrees... so little did you know your unconscious bias operating here? What woman could use the 180 rule if she can't tell that from turning all around, a 360 Bearbock!?
I'll say this: a filmmaker is better off without knowing the 180° rule. Just do it the way you want. Nobody is that dumb to not know where & how to take a shot.
I hate “film students” whom need to be explained about the 180 degree rule. If you love cinema enough to study it, the 180 rule is the most obvious to deduce.
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Arrival's dream sequence is another good example of a good way to break the rule.
I was just trying to remember whether they did that. Nice one.
Mind blown guruji, i once broke the 180° while shooting a short but i used a oner for it... Tbh i had no idea, great cinematographers like you existed in India until i a few years ago when i got ur channel...
Thank you!
Can you make a video about the usage of Limited space in films
Wow! Such a nice explanation!
Especially the technique to shoot from below to make the viewer more relaxed while watching
On set for features or episodic TV, no one ever talked about the 180 degree rule. Some mention may have been spoken about "the line." In rehearsal, actors see the camera placement thereby establishing the line and they adjust accordingly--on union shoots.
Haha. Ur comment at the end made me laugh! Thats the end punch. Great video as always. Cheers
This interest me even-though I don't get often disoriented by rule breaking or even notice it :D
Great video! Need to watch it a few times to fully understand. I reckon that the 1.37:1 ratio greatly influences the shot compositions. OSS are more common in wider aspect ratios. Googled the prime lens used. I knew it was neither wide angle not telefocus. It's s 50mm. Looked a little wider, 40-ish to me, but I'm still learning.
Anyway, this is gold! Thank you!
You're welcome!
I like the tip at the end about do it often enough to seem purposeful 😅
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I appreciate your videos! Gives me a better eye for things like this
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The cut between 2:03 and 2:05 is a definite jump. The doorway cannot be there in 2:05 if the actors' marks are as in 2:03.
However, there is no issue for the viewer because the master Ozu has confused them sufficiently breaking the 180 rules in previous shots!
One effect is, it keeps the viewer always on his toes
so he will, in an otherwise 'boring' scene, keep his focus.
Best 180 degree rule breaking scene was in Christopher Nolan's movie Following in which two actors physically move from one sids to another to Break the rule
It was awesome
I don't mean this in a snide way, but why would you do this? Some of the scenes seem pretty simple. Like conversations or a character moving through rooms. Why disorient your audience.i understand if it's for the theme or fits some sort of conflict.But other than this, i can only see it as lack of set space or laziness.
Lesson: if you make a mistake, make the mistake several times and say it was an intentional choice to break the rules.
"Repetition legitimizes"
"Intention legitimizes"
Amazing analysis
Thank you!
Questio, because im still fairly new to this:
Does the interrogation scene from inglorious basterds count as well?
Because the camera rotates past the 180 around the table
No, you need a cut with a change.
@@wolfcrow now i feel silly. I just looked at the scene again and it is the cut less than a minute later. The moment, when hans pulls out his big pipe.
.......the 180 degree rule is little bit confusing yes..... but you made it easy for us .......thanks for new video
You’re welcome!
Arguably the most famous break of the rule is the bathroom scene with "Grady" in The Shining. ruclips.net/video/XnxgYYfIooc/видео.html A complete 180 degree switch at least twice in the first 2 1/2 minutes of 5 minute scene. Though both characters are in frame, full body or waist up, each time, cut, it's still jarring somewhat, being that the information in scene both sides is very similar, with mirrors, urinals switching sides, colors and overall emotion of setting stays same imo. Would be interesting to know reasons for this rule break and why Kubrick did it. Anyone? thanks.
Thank youuu
what would be the mathematical equation to describe upside down video? we've got 180 degrees for the two dimensional representation, upside down would bring in at least another coordinate, yea?
BTW, I absolutely LOVE your videos and get smarter each time I watch them. Please keep posting!!!!!
Thank you!
Parasite is also a great example of it !
I don't have the slightest idea what the 180 degree rule means.
All I know is that these films , especially the Noriko Trilogy, are movie masterpieces.
2:20 Looks tight...50mm?
Ozu used 50mm almost in all his movies. What I call single-lens director.
i still find no reason to break this rule..it doesnt look too natural:) although he did a good job i still find it a bit confusing/un-natural and too risky ..a bit pointless... maybe:) but i do agree that sometimes is good to break some rules ...
Breaking the rule has a somewhat jarring effect, so for example if two characters are talking, and one of the characters reveals a new important piece of information which shifts the tone of the scene, then breaking the 180 degree rule could be a good idea.
Also as an example (also presented in the video), you can use it to disorient the viewer, so for example if character is lost in a maze, you can emphasize the effect by breaking the rule.
That's exactly the reason. He doesn't want to do it the "natural" way, that's what makes him unique. He doesn't want to be basic just like all the other directors. Do you think he'll become well known if he done it the normal way like everybody else? Of course not.
ikr lol...just for the sake of being different...unless you're making "Scary Movie" it doesn't make sense lol
Or he just .. nvm lol I love these videos!
Impressive. Thanks … Why not review Hollywood movies?
i'm so confused now.
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180 degree rule
Or he just didn't care about the rule.. All he wanted to make frames as he imagined..
I feel dizzy.
I think I'm too amateur to understand these. 😂😂
*meanwhile Ozu: I just keep camera and record. What this man praising me about? Me confused.
Jk
Oh, I thought you were talking about former trampoline gymnast and now high level German politician Annalena Baerbock. One of the many many many non-STEM capable women that confuse 180 with 360 degrees... so little did you know your unconscious bias operating here? What woman could use the 180 rule if she can't tell that from turning all around, a 360 Bearbock!?
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I think you missed to Tell us about the purpose part. Makes no sense to me.
Breaking the 180 rule? Just put another camera 180 degrees across-problem solved.
nice exsercise!
I'll say this: a filmmaker is better off without knowing the 180° rule. Just do it the way you want. Nobody is that dumb to not know where & how to take a shot.
It can get tricky with moving cameras especially if you're filming doc style.
I hate “film students” whom need to be explained about the 180 degree rule. If you love cinema enough to study it, the 180 rule is the most obvious to deduce.