2023 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring vs. Sport-L - FIRST DRIVE! (POV Binaural Audio)
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- The 11th Generation Honda Accord is here! Let's explore and drive the Top Touring trim level and the Sport-L. Both trims are hybrid electric powertrains.
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The Honda Accord is basically the giant middle finger to family SUVs. They did a great job with this, as did you with this video.
This feels like a GREAT BUY in this segment. The Accord does not need to be a canyon carver, track rat, fun machine...it needs to work/have tech you want/ and look fine. Seems to check all those!
Great video as always!
Really love that you drive this so hard. Its very true what you said, a car that can handle well is a car that is safe. I'd love to see more "normal/economy" cars driven harder in reviews to demonstrate their limits.
Appreciated!
You and Topher have basically the same thumbnail, with the steering wheel at pretty much the same angle. Great stuff.
You can tell when it’s a sunny day and there was one spot with the best light we end up finding the same image 😂
@@TedwardDrives Yeah, for sure. Good choice, I'd say. :)
Never thought I’d see the day when Accords came stock with 19” wheels. I feel old. 😂
I want my '76 back with 155/13s. Imagine the money saved on tires!
They have been coming with 19s since 2016
@@brrepublic8174 19s were usually the fancy/sport option wheels. the 10th gen came with 17s on the base and EX-L. the sport 19s keep getting stolen and the touring 19s affect mpg and nvh significantly. I think the lower trims of the 11th gen still come with 17s. honestly if i got a touring like this id rather just rock a pair of 17s for the better mpg and ride, an accord doesnt need 19s
The low-profile 19s they use on the Accord have only a 40,000-mile max tread life. I'd be replacing them every 18 months with how many miles I put on a car in a year. Would be nice to have an option for 18s with tires that are not low profile and have at least a 60,000-mile tread life warranty, like what are on the CR-V Sport Touring.
@@ShaiyanHossain
The 19 damaged very easily and were expensive to replace.
23 minutes and I'm not bored yet, what a perfect car
I saw an 11th gen Honda Accord in white the other day and thought it looked really good. Very clean and professional.
I get compliments everywhere I go with the hybrid touring. It's just classy and nice.
This new Accord is massive, it's almost 2 inches bigger than a 5 series. I feel like I'd rather a nice CPO 530e for much less, sure it might not be as reliable but you're getting a lot more car for the money.
but after 48k miles - look out! As a BMW owner - I can tell you that company has its hand in your bank account ALL THE TIME! Crazy cost of ownership!
@@jimc5696 yes although a huge determining factor is what motor you have. The newer B series motors are actually reliable.. however the cars have lost the magic BMW steering and feedback which made you want to buy one in the first place
BMWs are notoriously unreliable, buy a CPO Lexus es hybrid
Stop only looking at startup costs for a car to compare $. Consider cost to repair, and how often you have to repair. Over a 10 year span the cost of ownership generally with BMW's is much higher. Reliability with BMW's is also hit or miss. They can be great, but if something breaks it always costs more. Like checking account destroying "holy shit I don't have $4000 to repair" more.
If you look up the average cost to repair of BMW vs. the industry average, on average per a 2022 study, BMW's are around 30-35% more expensive to maintain. $968 vs. $652/year to repair.
Yes BMWs can be unreliable but the more modern ones are very much a case of you look after it and it will look after you. Yes, a Lexus will provide more stress-free motoring but you might as well have just bought a new Camry. Besides, the point of my comment was to explore alternatives for the 35-40k range, not to have a bunch of people going on and on about BMW reliability.
I keep seeing all these comments…Man, I wouldn’t care if you and TheTopher uploaded the same video, I’d still feel like we got twice the content.
Easily my favorite RUclipsrs
I just love how they make the cvt sound and feel like its changing gears
Tedward, if this car thing doesn't work out, do narration and sales stuff. Your voice is so smooth and calming.
Perfect daily driver as a compliment to a "fun car" like your CTR or whatever else. Taking delivery of my sport-l in a couple days. Was between this and bolt euv, (also have my name on an euv) but the ability to never be concerned with road tripping range, and honda's great "feel" and quality - has pushed me into likely going for the accord. As someone who previously owned a rav4 prime as a daily appliance, the crv hybrid I drove a couple weeks ago blew me away - unbelievable how smooth honda has made this drivetrain, and how GREAT their inputs are. Love watching your reviews tedward - we tend to think alike and its very helpful to hear your opinions.
edit: Saw "my car" in person at the dealer today - silver sport-l - is straight up police interceptor. Its so bad I can't unsee it and don't think I'll take delivery. Saw a touring model also - the silver fog light type accent in the bumper makes the bumper look deeper (taller), and combined with the touring wheels - just looks oddly so much better. I can't believe how weird the sport-l looks in person. What a let down.
Are the hybrid Accords being sold in-person only? I don't see a single listing for one withing 100 miles of me.
@@Narium413 reach out to your dealer and ask them what incoming allocations they have. Do that before they get posted in the inventory, so you're not battling with "regular" customers.
THE THROTTLE HOUSE DUDES!!! i love it when car youtubers crossover
Finally someone who is driving the Accord more aggressively instead of like you're going to a funeral or taking a driver's ED test!
Ngl, I think this is the best looking saloon at the moment. That front end is so clean and modern. It sums up the word ‘modern’, other German brands think making something modern means thinking completely outside of the box and going with something a bit odd, like the new 7 series. Great video as always! Your reviews are so much more relatable than others.
I disagree that the Accord is a family sedan, its a sporty and efficient sedan for people without families too. You don't need to have a family to like having a bigger car.
Neat
I would really consider this as a daily if the acceleration didn't look so painfully slow on video. This Accord is probably amazing for highway cruising, but I have a 2 hour commute through the mountains, and I need a car with a bit more juice than this haha. The interior honestly looks great. I'm a bit torn on the outside. It's simple and classy, but at the same time maybe a bit too plain? I don't necessarily think it looks bad though. Gonna wait to see how the Sonata refresh ends up.
Great way to put it regarding the exterior. I've been back and forth on it. I don't dislike it, but it just kind of looks plain like you said. Definitely looks professional, but it's lacking some aggressiveness that I'd like to see. I've seen so many people saying it's ugly, and I get that it's subjective, but that just feels like an exaggeration to me. How can something so plain be considered *ugly* lol
2 hour commute? Damn and I’m over here complaining about 1 hour of traffic everyday
I wouldnt touch Hyundai (or Kia)'s dealerships or service departments with a 10 foot pole. I agree with everything else you said though. This Accord looks nice to cruise in but the juice isn't there. The outside for sure is plain, don't hate it but looks boring. I feel like the 10th gen Accord has more lines and curvature on the outside.
@@manofculture9344 Ah, I apologize if my comment misled. I meant 2 hours total per day, although I used to have a 4 hour drive before I moved. Wasn't a fan. I commend you for dealing with traffic for that long. Luckily I have a nice 10 mile stretch at the end of my drive where I can comfortably hit triple digits haha
Then i guess you need a Lambo or even the Bugatti if you want more juice
They definitely need to bring the 2.0T back because this acceleration just isn’t it.
What about the new V6 they put in the new pilot? N/A and 10spd auto would be interesting
It would be nice if they brought back a type s version with the 2.0T, or even a V6, but maybe it could mess the Acura line. I'd love to see that anyway
Really is a shame. Because literally everything else is there. It looks good, has good luxury, its relatively affordable. It's just missing that ONE bit of what makes an Accord an Accord.
Fun.
A J35 with the 10 Speed is “just a dream”- Nellys voice lol
@@CARBONHAWK1 how sick would that be lol, imagine in a civic?
100% agrees
Honda's style is amazing
Nice video man 🫡
didnt like the design at first but im starting to like it a lot now
I will say this: As a Honda enjoyer, If Toyota still has their Camry TRD 300hp V6 models, then I’m never going to look back at the pitiful 192hp 1.5T Accord and this 206hp hybrid. I loved the older 278hp 2017 V6 Honda Accord’s and even the 252hp 2018 2.0T Accords that used to win drag races against Ecoboom Mustangs; but if this pitiful 192hp is all they got that’s not a hybrid, then I am no longer on the market for an Accord, and the Accord is dead to me.
I understand that not enough people bought these higher hp products, but it’s just sad to see the performance options of V6, V8, and 2.0T disappearing.
the next camry is slated to get the 2.4t iirc, but that too is on the line. i think toyota is aiming for a phev version akin to the rav4 prime instead
The 2.0t needs to comeback
This is certainly a car of all time.
I have the 2.0T..I will never give it up for this!
The hybrid system on the new Accord is so much different than all the others out there. It works more like they chevy volt than anything. With the gas engine simply being a generator for the electric motor. The noises and shifts are all faked with pumped in audio and the motor simulating power loss during "shifts." The gas engine does not have any gears but can power the front wheels directly at highway cruising speed for more efficiency. probably only turning at about 2k rpm though. So don't expect it to help with acceleration. I just think how it works is interesting.
It is direct drive in some situations and I think the simulated noise is only on top of the actual engine noise
@@davidlake611 yeah i said it could power the front wheels directly, but I don’t think the engine is making much noise at all
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Sad the 2.0T w/ 10AT is gone for this generation, wouldve been an absolute hit for the honda heads looking for a modern daily driver that they can mod
Touring interior and sport L exterior would be 🔥
Man this interior reminds me of the G80 interior. Honda did a good job.
Man, if only this car still had the V6 manual option.
I’m sorry but that was 6 years ago my guy
Man these Accords are really nice especially the Hybrids, having 500+ miles of range is crazy for my regular driving that would last me nearly 2 weeks haha. I love these Accord's personally I currently have a 2016 Accord LX and it's been great and very reliable. If I get another car in 4-5 years to replace it, it'll probably be a another Accord and most likely a hybrid.
I thought exactly the same thing with the volume click and scroll knobs are backwards. The volume should be the wheel. YES!
You and the topher uploaded at the same time
Embargo lifted. It's go time!
And Raitis rides
It looks like an old Buick or something it's gonna be a hit with old people
This was a great and comprehensive video, about an excellent vehicle line-up. 🙂
I'm tired of dailying in my fun car. My back hurts. This looks and sounds amazing. I wish Honda had better sound systems, springing for the touring to not get soup cans is a hard sell
Honda messed up badly with both the styling and dropping the 2.0L turbo on this one compared to the 10th generation in my opinion.
They need a Sport Touring trim. Has all of the extras from the Touring but the sportier wheels and black accents/trims. Around 42k? The Sport-L is but sucks it doesn’t have the cooled seats or rear vents/usb-c charging ports and heated rear seats.
I have seen opinions that when it is cold in winter it loses strength or does not respond. Great review!
So far, I have not seen the new Accord driven by anyone. Seen many new generation HR-Vs, CR-Vs, and earlier today, the new generation Pilot.
Great, detailed review as usual. Great sounds in the ear buds. That paper on the floor is making a lot of noise. 😆
The new accord looks very good but does looks in some ways very similar to a new Volvo s90 which is definitely not a bad thing. Great video as always as well.
RE: road noise, I'm told that the touring models have a special sound/wind noise reduction windshield to help reduce noise vs. the other trims
Awesome! I am also touring hybrid owner and when I hit gas like you I don’t get 30mpg I get 20-24mpg…
Too bad they ditched the stick. Great review as always Tedster!
i get why the hybrid is here, and i embrace it along with the electrified future, but you'd think there's gotta be enough demand to throw together an si or type-s model with the 2.0t
i had the opportunity to drive a 2019 sport once and it shocked me how fast it was, i'd never driven a turbocharged car before and feeling that surge of power was awesome. honda shouldn't deny that pleasure to their customers given the fact they have all the components to do it, & the window of opportunity to offer a gas-only car closes more and more every day...
I believe the sport-L is 35 starting, whereas the sport (cloth) is 31-32. With that in mind I think the Touring might be worth the extra 3k
accord hybrid owner here. got a 24' accord hybrid sport (base trim), and it would be worth upping to the sport-L trim. No heated mirrors on the base trim. Other than that, the car is excellent.
I have a 10th gen and I’d take that over this anyway
Looks better than the last gen in and out....but the drivetrain options are now horrible, give us the last gen drivetrain options with this updated look.
I'll keep my V6 Camry, I've practically rebuilt the whole car besides splitting the head bolts on the motor gotta keep all that Toyota magic from factory
I had a CVCC Civic a long time ago, and I got the impression, at the time, that Hondas were not that much fun to drive. Furthermore, my copy, which I believe was abused by the former owner, had its engine fail at 80K, so I wasn’t very impressed. I’ll give them another chance, maybe, when I’m done with my BMW 128i coupe (6-speed, no iDrive, 18” wheels, leather and metallic paint, nothing else), which in 5 years and 50K miles, has been cheaper than any hot Honda would be… The Honda might be the better car, in the final analysis, but the BMW is without a doubt, beautiful.
Love the new infotainment and the design is very accord lol simple and clean, but definitely a lil sad that there isn't gonna be a 2.0L turbo 10-speed in the new 11th gen. Was really excited for it when the new redesign was revealed.
Lol Imagine they make a Type-S with the previous 2.0L Turbo 10-Speed, slightly better suspension, better brakes etc. (Unlikely ofc)
Heading to the mountain for some Pie?! I know where you were going! I like Mom's Pie House a little bit better though. So much fun driving this road.
No get up and go is such a letdown. Nice car though
RE plug in hybrid - I have a Honda Clarity PHEV with a very similar power train (1.5 L) and it’s one of the best cars I’ve had, wish Honda implemented that development into their other cars
I was looking at these, used of course. I like most everything about it, just can't get over the looks. To me, one of the least pleasing looking cars on the road. Still, if I can get past that......
Either put a 2.0t back in or put another V6 in it PLEASE
I’d say remove the cvt minimum
Uh, where were you in 2018? Heated AND ventilated seats then too. 😂
John 12:49 - For I did not speak of my own Accord.
Love It!!
Really wish they made accord and Camry wagons.
Question : sport mode sound was fake omg.. than what is actually difference between eco normal and sport? Does it actually fast? And for engine 100% on hybrid how does that work? I know that on regular gas when I hit fully rpm goes 5k-7k(comoare to hybrid its near 70-80%) near and shifts and on high way it could goes to 7-8k on full speed. But hybrid I see it goes near 100% gage quickly when I fully hit gas.
Really digging this car! My mom's car is about to die and she wants my '20 Corolla, so I may get this or hold on for the next gen Camry.
Oh God, Honda have made life-sized versions of the hotwheels Trap 5 wheels.
The grill gives me slight Aston Martin vibes.
my local dealer is selling these touring trim accords for 3k off MSRP.... i just might swipe one!
People in the comments want this car to be something it’s not. The accord has always been designed as a family car, if you want performance look for something else.. 🤦🏽♂️
The need a Sport Touring! They already do it in the Civic & CRV, why not on the Accord now that the 2.0T is gone?
I want to like it but the interior is a sea of black beige is no longer an option just (black and gray interiors) I love the design itself just would like to see a few more elements inside to give it more character. My 2014 EX-L V6 has a better sound to the door and the interior has better materials even the back door has leather on the top portion of the panel and rear air-vents. Honda has cheapen up on materials just to follow the market. Honestly from hearing what others are saying they wanted to bring the car up market however, they missed the mark for me. Honda needs to go back to the 9th gen especially the EX-L and Touring trims to remind them what upmarket is like and how the Accord should be.
Great video, great job!!
what does hp and torque actually mean? does hp mean how fast you can go from 0 to 60?
Seats are dreadful. If you enjoy sitting in a large hole where the seat is tilted back and your ass is in a hole, have at it. Back and ass hurts after 15 minutes
You just can't argue that : New is always better --Barney Stinson
I still want a v6.
@@TedwardDrives Just like the days of 8000rpm k series, the v6 accords are long gone
I wished Honda still offered the Accord with a manual transmission. It does look nice though
Mt Palomar! I biked it. Beautiful area.
Put it in +R mode in your next review!
No spare tire in a vehicle is ridiculous. Come on Honda.
honestly don't know many vehicles that come with a spare anymore. It's annoying but a spare is rare these days.
@@TedwardDrives Certainly doesn't make you want to buy one.
Julian Pie Company! Great place
Yes!!!
@@TedwardDrives I assume it's a must hit whenever you come visit during snowbird season?
I get that they have to round out their emissions quota for the lineup due to federal regs, and cars are selling poorly so of course the Accord is chosen to suffer, but if you live in the hills this is not enough balls. It's just adequate. Imagine how this thing accelerates fully laden with 4 fat Americans and a trunk full of gear - probably scary as hell if you have to pass in the mountains. It's just gonna push people to their SUVs. It's a shame because I do like everything else about it.
ugh, no 2.0t is such a dealbreaker
There’s a 2.0 on the touring
@@MrMlbfan6 Touring is a hybrid. There's no more 2.0T in the Accord unfortunately.
@@oldshowfanatic77 in the honda website they put 2.0
@@oldshowfanatic77 they’ll
Probably make an 2.0t type s o r accord
@@MrMlbfan6 it's a 2.0 Atkinson cycle hybrid. It's no longer turbo. Only the 1.5 is turbo now.
boooooo. great review my brother but I'm still in love with my 2018 accord with the 2.0 turbo 6 SPEED MANUAL. if i could have one thing from the 2023 version into my 2018 will be the full screen cluster display, other than that there’s nothing else i would change about my car
I think it’s a great looking car. A lot of people are upset about no 2.0t, which I agree is a loss. However, for most people who buy the hybrid and 1.5t this a big improvement to me, especially the interior which is beautiful. But then I also own a new Civic Si so I’m biased on the new styling direction.
Nothing but a junky CVT now
If they made that trunk open like a fastback, that would've been excellent
Many people say the rear seat headroom is too tight. What were your thoughts?
Plenty for me. I think even Harrison from the throttle house team fit and he’s 6’5”
Touring in silver/black for me
Honda has made themselves less competitive, in the midsize sedan market. Anyone in the market for a midsize sedan. And they want performance. They are gonna have to go with the V-6 Camry, or the VC turbo Altima etc. And Honda is going to miss out on those sales.
im getting Audi "7" series vibes.from the exterior.
@18:35 the sport L doesn’t have rear vents?!
not bad at all.
Yeah I'm convinced that Honda makes a very interesting product; price is the biggest pain here. I'm going to keep my eyes out for the Civic hatch Hybrid (with the EU has had for about a year already...).
the accord is WAY more comfy than the civic. Test drove a civic after the accord and I can assure you the accord is way more refined. If you spend a LOT of time in your car (long commute), the accord is the better buy 100%.
@@matty1053 you're probably right, but at the Accord's pricepoint, i think I'm going Camry hybrid AWD or wait for the RWD PHEV Mazda6. I'm not sure the Accord is worth it anymore.
when a Tesla Model 3 has a electronic opening and closing trunk, it’s looks a bit cheap for the top-spec Accord to have a manual trunk
I hear you. But top trim is still under 40k. And model 3 feels like it was assembled by golden retrievers
*cries in Model Y owner*
..ain’t that the truth! I owned a 10th-gen Civic and I do miss it, was much more fun to drive
Is the revvving sound artificial or thats the actual engine Roar ?
Simulation because it’s a eCVT.
Guys I have a serious question what the hell does L mean in sport-L? I see it on Hondas build thing but I can’t notice that it has a longer wheel base does it mean luxury? I’m so confused usually L means long wheel base
Leather
there is something on back seat betwwen back and sit area. what is that?
Please do a whole review on the new android headunit
Civic Sr. Touring ✌🏽
Is that the engine or speakers feeding in engine noise?
Watch the post credit sequence :)
Interested in what sustained 80 mph interstate mpg is in the hybrid????
Probably 50+
24' Accord Hybrid Sport (base trim) owner here...
Hybrids aren't great for highway fuel efficiency. You are almost better getting a gas powered car for the MPG's. Plus, weather and HVAC has a HUGE play in mpg just like every car. But here are my own stats... 20 mile commute one way, 19.25 miles highway, .75miles city.
65mph, stop and go for about 10 miles... 52.3mpg. (this surprised me)
70mph, no traffic in the morning... 42.4mpg
75mph, no traffic... 40.1mpg.
Mind you my commute isn't just flat highway. Has more incline rather than decline. My accord is rated 44 highway, 41 city.
To note as well... Putting it in cruise and letting the car drive itself is the BEST fuel MPG results. I personally noticed a crazy difference.... 6mpg difference leaving it in cruise rather than 'feathering' the throttle.
You didn't mention that the Sport-L doesn't have rear ac vents and usb charge ports aside from the heated rear seats.
18:35
Did the L sport have a tighter suspension?
yes there are different bushings and in the Sport-L so it is more firm and less compliant than the Touring
The shifts sound somewhat natural...
which is very strange since there are no gears and no CVT haha
@@TedwardDrives Honda trickery at its best ha ha
Without a transmission of any kind, how is the hybrid model simulating shifts??
It’s just programming to make it sound more normal to the average driver
computer programming