sufism is elusive because the reality the sufis are trying to capture is very elusive hidden behind endless veils .. thanks for your wonderful introduction to Attar s conference of birds
What a beautiful way to describe Sufism. ☺️ Thank you, I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I adored this book, it's absolutely amazing. It makes me want to learn more about Sufism. I hope your weekend is pretty good. 🤓
Hello old friend. Just wanted to pop in and say hello, and let you know that I am still lurking around even though I don't always comment. Crystal, I just want to tell you how proud I am of you, and how you have kept your channel unique and true to your own visions, you are a special, wonderful lady.
Hi Lillian! * gives lots of hugs * Thanks for popping in, it's always fabulous to hear from you. Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot to me.🥰 It took a bit of time to figure out my channel's voice, but I adore the content I create. So it means others could enjoy it as well. My channel's audience may not be large or have a wide appeal, but we all are a cool bunch of folks who share in some pretty awesome, adventurous bookish taste. 💞 And that's the coolest ever!
It sure is underrated, there's so much we can examine in it. I'm sure you'll enjoy this one. It includes many little stories & snippets of wisdom. My favourites are the parts about the ocean. I hope you have a great rest of your week! ☺️
Thanks! 🤓 It's a beautiful book if you enjoy poetry & parables. Rumi is fabulous as well, though I haven't read him in years & was far too young to actually understand his meaning. So I'm certainly eager to revisit his work again. 💕
I wrote a comment and it seems to have disappeared! Maybe it's being held for review, let me know if it doesn't show and I'll write it again! Wonderful video!
I did! I always found the idea of Sufi mysticism so fascinating, I don’t know if you’ve ever read Richard Burtons (half made up) stories of his travels but they sound so exotic. Really lovely video, would have liked to hear you read some!
Thanks, I'm interested in learning more about Sufism & their poetry. No, I've never read his works. He seems like an interesting fellow though. Thanks, to me, my reading voice isn't super interesting.😌
Also, have you heard of Chaucer’s “Parlement of Foules (The Parliament of Birds)”? It’s also an allegorical poem involving birds, thought it’s much shorter than this (for the record, I haven’t read it yet 😅). I just Wikipedia’d it and it appears that Chaucer wrote it a couple of centuries after Attar wrote this. Perhaps he was influenced by Attar??
Why no, I haven't! * quick Wikepedia search * It's the earliest known reference to Valentine's Day? That's interesting! I can't see any connection between the two though. Attar's subject matter has little to do with romantic love. The only similarity I can see is the poetic form (Chaucer's Heroic & Attar's is Mathnavi Persian Poetic Form). Chaucer's title sure is interesting though ... hmm... possibly something to read next year. 🤓
Maybe that’s the point? Maybe Chaucer was poking fun at Attar by taking his grand divine metaphor and turning it into a love poem, similar to how the Canterbury Tales is supposed to poke fun at Dante’s Divine Comedy? Actually it’d also be interesting to learn if there are any connections between Dante and Attar.
Attar's poem has very clear references to Christianity. I'm sure it could be equally enjoyed by devout Christians as well as Muslims & that's what makes it so unifying. For translations, I wonder if this would have made it into England, I'm doubting it for some reason. I'm sure Dante would have read it though, but I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps Italy being geographically quite a bit closer to the Muslim world? The history of translation would be a great route to explore here.
I would think that Dante would’ve been much more likely to have read this. There was actually a strong Muslim presence in Sicily for a long time, so it certainly shouldn’t have been as hard for Dante to have come across Attar’s work as it might’ve been for Chaucer.
Thank you! I didn't major in anything. In the US, it would be considered a Liberal Arts degree. It means I have a deep respect for the value of the humanities. I studied Eastern & Western philosophies, world religions, Indigenous studies, anthropology, history, women studies. I took a Latin class as well.
sufism is elusive because the reality the sufis are trying to capture is very elusive hidden behind endless veils .. thanks for your wonderful introduction to Attar s conference of birds
What a beautiful way to describe Sufism. ☺️ Thank you, I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I adored this book, it's absolutely amazing. It makes me want to learn more about Sufism. I hope your weekend is pretty good. 🤓
Hello old friend. Just wanted to pop in and say hello, and let you know that I am still lurking around even though I don't always comment. Crystal, I just want to tell you how proud I am of you, and how you have kept your channel unique and true to your own visions, you are a special, wonderful lady.
Hi Lillian! * gives lots of hugs * Thanks for popping in, it's always fabulous to hear from you. Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot to me.🥰 It took a bit of time to figure out my channel's voice, but I adore the content I create. So it means others could enjoy it as well. My channel's audience may not be large or have a wide appeal, but we all are a cool bunch of folks who share in some pretty awesome, adventurous bookish taste. 💞 And that's the coolest ever!
Allegorical writing is so underrated, and I'm often surprised with how many people struggle understanding it. Look forward to reading this!
It sure is underrated, there's so much we can examine in it. I'm sure you'll enjoy this one. It includes many little stories & snippets of wisdom. My favourites are the parts about the ocean. I hope you have a great rest of your week! ☺️
Fascinating - I used to have this book but didn't read all of it. Really loved the poetry of Rumi, though.
Thanks! 🤓 It's a beautiful book if you enjoy poetry & parables. Rumi is fabulous as well, though I haven't read him in years & was far too young to actually understand his meaning. So I'm certainly eager to revisit his work again. 💕
I’m so looking forward to reading this. Lovely video! 😁
I'm sure you'd adore it. It's packed with philosophical musings & beautiful language. Thanks, I like how it turned out.☺️
I wrote a comment and it seems to have disappeared! Maybe it's being held for review, let me know if it doesn't show and I'll write it again! Wonderful video!
Hmm.. no it hasn't showed up anywhere. It's all good , though. I'm happy you enjoyed this video! 🤓
I did! I always found the idea of Sufi mysticism so fascinating, I don’t know if you’ve ever read Richard Burtons (half made up) stories of his travels but they sound so exotic. Really lovely video, would have liked to hear you read some!
Thanks, I'm interested in learning more about Sufism & their poetry. No, I've never read his works. He seems like an interesting fellow though. Thanks, to me, my reading voice isn't super interesting.😌
Also, have you heard of Chaucer’s “Parlement of Foules (The Parliament of Birds)”? It’s also an allegorical poem involving birds, thought it’s much shorter than this (for the record, I haven’t read it yet 😅). I just Wikipedia’d it and it appears that Chaucer wrote it a couple of centuries after Attar wrote this. Perhaps he was influenced by Attar??
Why no, I haven't! * quick Wikepedia search * It's the earliest known reference to Valentine's Day? That's interesting! I can't see any connection between the two though. Attar's subject matter has little to do with romantic love. The only similarity I can see is the poetic form (Chaucer's Heroic & Attar's is Mathnavi Persian Poetic Form). Chaucer's title sure is interesting though ... hmm... possibly something to read next year. 🤓
Maybe that’s the point? Maybe Chaucer was poking fun at Attar by taking his grand divine metaphor and turning it into a love poem, similar to how the Canterbury Tales is supposed to poke fun at Dante’s Divine Comedy? Actually it’d also be interesting to learn if there are any connections between Dante and Attar.
Attar's poem has very clear references to Christianity. I'm sure it could be equally enjoyed by devout Christians as well as Muslims & that's what makes it so unifying. For translations, I wonder if this would have made it into England, I'm doubting it for some reason. I'm sure Dante would have read it though, but I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps Italy being geographically quite a bit closer to the Muslim world? The history of translation would be a great route to explore here.
I would think that Dante would’ve been much more likely to have read this. There was actually a strong Muslim presence in Sicily for a long time, so it certainly shouldn’t have been as hard for Dante to have come across Attar’s work as it might’ve been for Chaucer.
I love your account! I am curious to know what you studied at university?
Thank you! I didn't major in anything. In the US, it would be considered a Liberal Arts degree. It means I have a deep respect for the value of the humanities. I studied Eastern & Western philosophies, world religions, Indigenous studies, anthropology, history, women studies. I took a Latin class as well.