The lesson from Crispy's confusion over the word "canoodling" is that old timey slang for sex can sneak pass the asexual filter in a way that doesn't cause crispy.exe to stop working. Other words this should be further tested with are "hanky panky" and "making whoopee."
Or even just cuddling and heavy petting. Because it might mean the lighter end of things, it's allowed a pass. I'm 63, a lot of words have "drifted" in meaning during my lifetime.
@@sherylcascadden4988 As an ace myself, "heavy petting" does NOT make it through the filter. Why? _Furries and fanfic._ Two things that pop up frequent enough in these horror stories that the connection is _immediately_ there. Everything else gets a pass tho.
As someone who commissions a lot of art of his characters, people who try and coerce artists to give them free art piss me off. Artists are trying their best to make a living off a craft that takes a LOT work, and people do all sorts of things to try and devalue that hard work for a freebie.
The 2nd story, the guy who waited until the last minute to make a sheet, that's a "that guy" strategy to cheat on their sheet. Basically, they make the sheet absolute last minute so you skip the review step because they gave it to you while you were distracted. I had a player who did this EVERY TIME.
He became a "that guy" because the DM ruined the love interest and made her a villain. TLDR: DM ruins players love interest NPC and creates a "that guy".
How are you all missing the DM is THAT GUY too? Taking a payers idea, incorporating it and then perverting the idea would irk many people. Both the DM and THAT GUY were THAT GUY!
I half expected the Pick-Me Girl's relationship with the BBEG to end like this Sorceress: "That's horrible! Your plan is horrible!! You're horrible!!! You're an irredeemable monster!!!!" BBEG: "Oh, oh! What took you so long? Idiot!!" *Backhands*
Every BBEG: I am a cold blooded murderer with no rules that I follow and no boundaries that I respect. I will destroy your life and murder everyone you love. This girl: I can fix him.
One exception to "make your character beforehand" (and personally I think this should be standard to avoid cheating) is if part of Session 0 is making your characters together.
Good addition. I know a lot of non-D&D games suggest you do this, and whatever you're playing making characters together lets you tie their backstories together, or come up with a reason for them to work as a team pre-game. That can make the first few sessions a lot smoother. One of my groups isn't used to learning new systems. So when I'm bringing them new games we're going to be spending time before the session making characters and going over the rules. That way both me and the books are there if they have any questions and it's easier to see where they're struggling.
That whole "the players should be the strongest force" mentality is never gonna fly with me. It's one of the reasons I don't use npc classes for npcs, only player classes. Once you start down the road of player characters being the strongest beings every story becomes a "You're the chosen ones" thing and it's lame. I know this is a controversial take, once I got into a long argument about how many characters in a given country would be level 20 and I said hundreds, which made the person I was talking with gasp. They thought outside the party there should be none. All I'm gonna say is choose your words carefully if you wanna get cute with the local wizard or army commander in my campaigns, lol
I personally love doing the "Important-to-the-World NPCs are powerful and very busy" route. Why doesn't the Archmage Wizard that gives the party hot chocolate fight the BBEG? "I'm sorry my friends, but if I don't stop this portal from opening up on the other side of the world, we'll lose regardless. This battle is to be fought on two fronts, and I know you can all handle BBEG."
@@tatersalad76 Exactly, stuff like that makes the world feel real and lived in. What's happening to the PCs should feel important to them but it shouldn't be the only important thing that's happening. Otherwise the world starts to feel like those old western movie sets where all the buildings were just facades and everything that isn't facing the camera is just unpainted wood. Just because you don't design an encounter down every alley or around every corner doesn't mean you shouldn't be giving the impression that there isn't.
Pay your artists people. I've been lucky enough that I haven't had an abhorrently bad experiences in my career but god I hear about so much. I cry and beg into the universe. Respect your artists and people who are knowledgeable in their feilds
I have actually have seen romance done in a dnd game a number of times. You just... need the right people. And more importantly, know what is rollplay, and what is personal, and make sure to keep those lines clear.
They were all in their late 20's and still decided to keep that girl around after multiple years. Those idiots should of let Sarah go day 1. Always the weird dudes who keep the weird women around.
Third story: this gave me such PTSD and anger in the beginning. STG if I ever get contacted by another person convinced that their shitty game idea is the absolute best in the world that's gonna hit big on Kickstarter and wants free art for it "for future profit" I'm gonna punt them into the stratosphere. I work as a professional illustrator and concept artist myself and these types of people are the absolute WORST.
Intro: I was worried the table would act like jerks over OP choking on food. Thankfully they didn't, allowing the choking itself be the horror. Tabletop horror stories have shown there's people who prioritize their fun over someone's well being. 1st story: The samurai portion definitely felt bad, that guy overreacting to the plan to spice a love interest up. Later on he felt moronic. 2nd story: Hearing the DM admit problem player's wife was similarly bad explains how he could possibly get married. Good to hear the problem got kicked instead of OP having to leave just to avoid him. 3rd story: Another case of an agreed upon game plan getting tossed aside because someone's whiny. While it's usually DM's harassing player builds, players harassing a DM also happens. The players who stayed gave garbage advice for this scenario, like they expect they'll get their way next time. 4th story: Three good reasons to not date Sarah? Don't want to, no obligation to have three reasons, and this conversation is over. Good thing she accepted being dropped like a sack of bricks and replaced by sane people both in and out if the table.
More groups should adopt my rule #1: under no circumstances will belligerence be tolerated. The vast majority of problems can be resolved through discussion, but that all falls apart when players start getting stubborn and combative, so any instance of that gets stamped out immediately
Sara reminds me of someone I once played betrayal in the house on the hill. We had to explain to this women ever single turn how to take her entire turn and never once actually tried to learn. Her husband picked it up immediately but in her mind we were being rude for asking her to use her head when we’re just supposed to have mindless fun
I flirted with a villain, and she ended up dying in the next session. Something that pissed my character off, and I got a reunion after canonically the universe reversed but we kept our memories. I got reunited with her, she wasn't really a big bad evil character. And we brought down the actual BBEG, who I got to challenge to a duel for his traitorous character.
Depends when the post was made. Wendy was 12 at introduction, but time skips happened so she aged. I think she's closer to 14-15 now, give or take when the sequel series happened.
As soon as Wendy got mentioned I knew the player was going to be a problem. Reason 1 not to date Sarah: she's the sort of person who thinks she's entitled to reasons when getting turned down.
I mean the pick me was a lot. I do find it interesting she asked out 3 of the 4 guys. Imagine being that last guy. Either you're thinking you're the luckiest man alive or you feel kinda hurt she went for everyone BUT you lol. I'm gay but I'd probably feel a lil sad like wait what's wrong with me 🥺. At the same time she's pretty yikes idk lol 😂
My first 5e PC, I made at the table. I didn't have the books, so had to borrow from the table. They were explaining how the classes and races differed from 3.5e, which I was familiar with. After like 5-10 min of me sifting through the PHB, I still couldn't settle on a race, (I knew before I got there I wanted to play a sorcerer), I was like, I'll just be a human, let's play. Zero backstory, so went with classic amnesia to start. Later developed/uncovered, she was actually a dragon whose mother had true polymorphic her into a human to hide her draconic origins from the cult of tiamat. Though as she leveled, her skin was slowly covered in shiny scales that she hid. The gnome rogue called her a "shiny human."
First story be like that scene from Asobi Asobase where Hanako tries to talk while hiding a candy under her tongue and it slips into the back of her throat, causing her to unleash an unearthly screech.
That high fantasy one with the clockwork peace keepers sounds like a good world, wouldn't mind experiencing that. Fickle the original players they just wanted to murder hobo
Not even DND related but I feel that it’s a oddly a little more common than it should be for a group of guys to encounter a girl who tries to systematically do that.
Story 3: When they attempted to attack the peacekeepers on the train, the DM should've asked why they were doing that, equating them to the city guard or something along those lines. "If you walk into a town, is the first thing you do assault the guards? Like, before you even find a tavern or go to the objective of a quest? You just kill any armed person walking the street?" It's not even murderhobo behavior, it's just insanity, especially if the clockwork peacekeepers are a known entity in this world.
@@ArcCaravan Which would never have happened if the DM had cut it off when it started. The DM chose to just let them go through with it, and then went 'gosh I'm so shocked they're mad at me for letting them do something pointless'. If the DM had opened their mouth and said "No, guys, you're not getting it, the peacekeepers aren't meant to be attacked, knock it off" they wouldn't have had to overreact to their own stupidity. So in this, both players and DM take a hard fail
@@mikaneko DM warned them it was a bad idea and even if the DM forced them to stop, they'd likely whine about railroading because they didn't get to do what they wanted.
YOU are THAT GUY TOO! I find love interests in D&D rather silly unless it's a real life couple playing. But if YOU are allowing him a love interest deciding to make her evil was a rotten thing to do. Now THAT GUY becomes that guy when he stayed in your game to mess it up. For my part you do me dirty and I dump you and your game.
Ugh that 2nd story with the chronically unprepared PC... We're dealing with this at our table rn, too. A new player joined alongside her bf. Her bf is a forever DM and does well. But the gf? She doesn't do any work for her characters. It's a problem we're hoping we're gonna solve it soon.
22:55 This is the glory of Pathfinder 2. I have introduced more than 20 people to the system, little less than half of them first-timers at tables. No confusion. None. It's DEAD simple and genius. Just needing reminders about how their abilities work on the squares. I will forever wipe with 5E book pages until the day I die ever since 2E came out.
Honestly, the whole "Your love interest is secretly a red mage" thing is a bad idea in my opinion. Unless you cleared it with the player, making the character they specifically wanted as a love interest be a psycho villain is generally misguided. The player reacted badly, but still.
@@nidohime6233 Can't tell if that's a joke or not, but just in case it isn't, those aren't the same kind of red mages. In D&D, the Red Mages of Thay are one of the several cartoonishly evil factions of the world, basically a bunch of homicidal death-cultists. They are almost never anything beyond chaotic evil and their antics usually spell doom for entire countries, maybe the whole world. So for the DM to casually make a player's hoped-for love interest into a red mage...yeah, that's a dick move. A big one too. It's basically the same as making the player's requested love-interest character a sith in a Star Wars Jedi vs Sith war campaign. Can't really be surprised if the player doesn't like it.
Also take into account the love interest was inspired by Wendy from Fairy Tail. *im not agreeing with That Guy by any metric but if you take Wendy and turn her into a Thay Wizard, buddy pal we're gonna have problems*
@darklord884 tldr; Wendy Marvell is the typical shy, sweet girl that most animes typical use for their FMC. The Wizards of Thay are cutthroat and, as mentioned above, "cartoonishly" evil to the point that when they finally decided one member crossed the line, THAT MEMBER BECAME A DARKLORD FOR WHAT HE DID. In short, making a character like Wendy a Red Wizard is like claiming a baby bunny is related to a parasitic wasp.
A lot of forever-players get confused about linear stories or deep lore. They see they cant play the murderhobo walnut, and confuse it with railroading Please dont do this lol
1st story. Am i reading this wrong or did OP turn Samurai's love interest into an enemy of the party? If so I can understand him being checked out for future games from OP because that's not "Spice" that's a straight up Screw You
Lol I have NO idea what happened. I mean… I kind of do? That’s one of the transitions that I use between stories. Background audio was unmuted (for some reason). Why it popped up in the middle of the video, I have no idea.
5:00 'While your DM preps 3 to 4 hours a week.' Me: 'Uh, yea. I totally prep that much every week for my sessions. It's not like I whip things together in 30 mins and improvise the rest. Nope. Not at all. 4 hours. Minimum. Yup...'
On average it seems like DMs prep more than players, at least they need to. Exceptions exist, but not really an excuse for players to mess up like that guy.
One of my player character, aa fighter orc, met a BEG (not putting the first B as he was only the villain of the first arc) before his reveal, and they got a bit close through similar views and careful wording from my BEG to not seel himself out. When the reveal got done, he refused to fight him and just held him still in a grapple to not let him hurt others. He used the same talks they had when getting friends to plead him to stop his ritual about to drown the region. In the end the BEG gave in (not without having two other characters at 0HP stabilized by the cleric), and forced the team to get out while he was dealing with the monster he had summoned. They never saw him again, but the orc fighter still hopes he is okey and searches for him during his downtime. I will not say if i have planned something or not in case my dear fighter friend come across this. But i think, that's how you deal with the reveal of a close NPC revealed to be evil. Or at least one of the ways. There's so much to do with a relation turning betrayal, but i guess that would require putting work into it rather than having the NPC fall in their arms.
“He wanted gis love interest to be a rip off of wendy from fairy tail” I dont care how old his character is, that’s a red flag. Only pink if his character is also, like, 13
@Crispy, just a note, RAW, you can cast two cantrips in a turn if one is a bonus action and one is a standard action. You can only cast a cantrip and a leveled spell in a turn if the leveled spell is a bonus action. You can, only in the case of having two levels in fighter, cast two leveled spells in a turn through action surge. Now, back to your regular stories...
for that first story, me and a fellow dm have dealt with that plenty of times with one player, he would lose his character sheets or forget them almost every week and ask us to make him a new one, majority of the time tellign us he wants it to be basically some character from an anime that got isekei'd into the dnd world. it got every annoying, he is starting to go for more original characters now but still asks others to build them for him, me and my friend had enoug hand we arent doign it anymore since it takes time away from us DMing or doing other things.
Just Murderhobo Things I think underlines the importance of session zero. Taking as a given the GM told the players up front how things were going to be different, for the players to ignore these "warnings" just proves they either needed to get over their idiotic ideas or not be in that campaign.
While being against that NPC choice was reasonable, the reaction was overboard. I'm guessing the plan was her changing sides, something that spiced things up as both DM and player agreed on.
I'm confused about sara's story, they say that she couldn't cast two fireballs in a turn even if it was quickened. Quickened spell is a meta magic that sorcerers have, and I'm wondering if someone forgot to mention that they were using it to cast two fireballs
Apparently Quickened only allows a sorcerer to follow a spell up with a cantrip, not another spell slot spell. So two casts of fireball aren't allowed.
@@pinkpugilist no, the rules state that the spell has to have a casting time of one action, so using the quickened spell metamagic would allow two fireballs.
I don't even consider my character to be a real adventurer until like level 5, until then he's just getting the feel for this adventuring thing. Yeah regular enemies should be beatable by the party, but that doesn't mean they should be able to kill literally anyone and be the strongest force in the entire universe at 3rd level.
I usually think level 3 is when the adventure really starts since that's when most classes get subclasses or important features. Then characters can stand out more both aesthetically and mechanically, regardless of roleplaying and world building.
@@ArcCaravan I know about level 3, I typically start campaigns at level 3, I'm just saying it's level 5 when I'd call adventurers worthy of the title. Before that they're more like capable travellers who are willing to do the occasional risky task, maybe it's just my own point of view, but that's how I picture it. Adventurers are what you hire when you need something special, that mercenaries, sellswords, guardsman or knights just aren't right for the job.
@@PaladinGear15Probably a differing of opinions, I'm just saying my views of the topic (hopefully helping the algorithm somehow). I generally see adventurers as anyone with a class level who goes on adventures, not really a title to me. What you call "real adventurer" I'd call hero (give or take alignment), probably with an extra requirement like beating a big boss character or completing a large quest.
It's interesting how the 4 main channels each have something to set them apart from each other. You have your skits. Drake has his fanart. Critcrab has his little squishy crab minions. And Doge has his cats.😊
To be fair, if you play a 4h game, changes are you will need some food. It will also keep your energy up enough to have a good game. I have eaten quick meals while playing, so take care of your basics during games
When our group gets together, we make dinner first. Sit down to eat. Talk about characters and stuff. Finish up, clear the table, and play! 🎲 But we can only do that when we game IRL.
Idk if its an english thing but “you remind me of my wife” is a joking thing said to men and women. I hear it in the workplace and the pub constantly, I wouldn’t think of it as a red flag ever
In America it kinda depends on the tone it can be a joke but a lot of men use it to just outright dismiss the opinion of a women. Kinda more similar to how people might use "thanks mom". Sometimes a joke sometimes passive aggressively saying you're being uptight and ruining things
Kinda random, but the "action economy" thing in the last story jumped out at me. Yeah, the whole Bonus Action spell thing was _not_ written well in the Player's Handbook. The simpler, clearer phrasing would be, "you can only cast one leveled spell on your turn." As is, it's kinda confusing. But also, there _is_ a way to cast Fireball twice in one turn - Twinned Spell. I can't help but wonder if anyone mentioned this to our Pick-me Sorceress, and if not, why?
I started with Live Action Roleplay in my basement playing with my brother. We started out using characters like Shinobi, Shadow Master, Link, Ganon, Zelda. We created a few unique characters. Over time those ripped off characters became more original as time progressed with their character progression. I still add to that story on occasion to this day. I also participated in non-literate, semi-literate, literate, and R2 level role-play. Advanced literate is a meaningless level since the term is used so loosely.
Samurai dude? I had exact same player at my table for a while. He asked for love interest and.... and... he send me jinx trailer from LoL to describe what kind of character she is. So now in my Traveller (hardish SF) Universe Director of Operations for Duke's of Trojan Reach Intelligence Service is a bit gun-ho woman with very advanced cybernetics. And after almost a year of campaign he asked if space suits could be considered armor. After he aquired quite advanced suit, basically imprevious to most small arms.
I think some players hear "you won't be super powerful" and go okay I won't be killing god session one but still think the local authority should be mince meat
Can't help but wonder why Loyd ended the relationship considering how I have a general idea of how Pick Mes are to date. Typically it's a lot of putting down other girls to make them look better, a lot of desperation and neediness, a lack of self and in more extreme cases, very strong anti-feminism views. So curiosity has me wanting to know what she did after just a month that had him noping out.
I never understand people not prepping characters for campaigns when they have more than a week to do so... then again maybe that's because I have so many characters lying about-... no, no i still make new characters for campaigns...
Some of the things I have learned throughout the years is anytime someone uses insults like "incel" "pick me girl" or any of the other buzz word insults. They are more often than not about to tell you lies about the person and are using those buzz words to cause an emotional reaction out of you so their side looks better. Extremely rarely has anyone ever included phrases like that in their comments and has it turned out they were telling the truth. Take it with a grain of salt and dont believe anything you read on the internet until you can verify it.
I feel that I need to play devil's advocate for the player in the first story with the love intresst. Given how invested the player was in making his npc love intresst it should have clued the dm in that it was important to the pc. For the dm then to turn around and make the npc an agent of an evil faction and opponent to the party could be seen as twisting it into something it should not be in the pc's eyes. Some may like the conflict and potential for a redemtion arc for that npc especially if they are a love intresst but if it is handled badly or sprung on them with little warning it sends a message to the players not to trust things in their backstory or trust the dm with sensitive character info. It's can be like writing about a pc's fear of something in the past only for it to keep coming up time and again to torment them just because the dm knows that it will have an affect on the pc. In the follow up I can make an argument for the player not wanting to give any info to the dm so as to not give them more ammo to hurt their pc with, it's the kind of behavior that can led to players making pcs that are orphans and dont care for anything but this own survival willing to throw anyone els under the buss and never trusting any npc they meet as any interraction is just an opening to hurt them with. The op could very well be the bad guy in another horror story without knowing it.
I once had a player who kept saying he had to "finish up his character" and that it would only be a minute An hour of waiting later he finished his character and revealed that he never worked on his character before entering the call Also in the same session one of the players was driving home from work while in the call saying that he'll be home soon to play and we almost waited for two hours, part of it was him driving home the other part was him arguing with his mom and starting up his computer I would have told either of these people to fuck off but I was doing the one-shot for someone who asked me to do it and they were some of his friends so I felt like I couldn't
The first (intro) story seems less a horror story and more a comic one (at least in hindsight), though I can understand how terrifying it can be to hear someone choke online and not being able to help. Hopefully it doesn't happen again to OP. "You need a character": I'm very guilty of working at the last minute on a character, but at least I'd have the decency to accept that the GM has a point in not letting me in if I take too long. And this is a one-shot; you don't need a long-winded character thesis, just a general concept and a quick write-up. "Just Some Advice": Yeah, artists live off their commission work, so asking them to do stuff for free is insulting. You don't ask your buddy the plumber to fix your sink for free unless you're BFFs. Plus, a "girl" knowing more about game development than him setting him off is funny, even if it did bring out his worst behavior yet. I just want him to choke on the idea a "girl" knows more about what's clearly his dream job (though he'll clearly never actively do anything to advance that dream, he just expects it to fall into his lap). Also even if it is his passion project, he's clearly not good at it. "Just Murderhobo Things": I'd say both sides were at fault here. The DM for putting a few strong barriers, but mostly the party for just trying to go loco even though they were warned. I'd say mostly a problem of player/DM mismatch. Hopefully both sides get the party/DM they deserve. "Just Pick Me": ...I think the "Pick Me" girl was just there because she wanted a date, and had quite a few issues. She was just at the table to flirt with people, as she didn't seem focused or concentrated on the game, even before the breakup.
"Just Murderhobo Things" - I find it hard to blame the DM when no reason was given for the players attacking the peacekeepers beyond deciding to be murder hobos. And it was only mismatched because the players lied about agreeing with the DM on the game.
@@ArcCaravan agreed. I'm listening to a campaign where one of the first fights, the PCs had to surrender to not get TPKd. It's a system where, as the DM explained, being outnumbered makes a really big difference. Real stakes are good sometimes, and I hope that DM can find ppl who are actually willing to work with that
I know a GM who was going to run a game where magic destroyed the planet we where on and there was only a floating crust shatered into chucks and the part we where on magic was outlawed besided people inslaved by the goverment to power and fly the space ships (can't remember the DND space ships names right now x.x) And most everyone in the party had magic..... but we where all level 1 and didn't even have access to all our cantrips like i think we got our spells but only 2 level 1 spells and the rest where cantrips because magic was so hard to find. Most of us where talking about stuff like means of hiding the fact we used magic and taking stealth magics and the like .... I think it was gastault so we could have other classes too but we where SUPER underpowered and at best people wanted to kill us at worst they wanted to scoop our brains out and use us as starship engines. We had to find a way to gain power / spells with out giving ourselves away and evenchaly steal a ship. First post from some guys was out right flat asking some people in a bar where they could buy some spell books and trying to blast peoples face off with fire bolts when they where like "HERITIC"!! u.u People started fighting gauards and GM tossed the game out the window.
For the second story, He became a "that guy" because the DM ruined the love interest and made her a villain. TLDR: DM ruins players love interest and creates a "that guy".
First story, love how you gloss over the dm being at fault by making the samurai's love interest's complete betrayal to the country as "a little spicy." No wonder the guy soured on that dm's games. That said, he should have just dropped, rather than be a problem player.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is something wrong with Hoard of the Dragon Queen? I thought the cursed campaign for Crispy was the strahd campaign?
I met my boyfriend at our dnd table. We have never once been an icky couple at the table and I wouldn’t dare bring our real life drama into the game. Our characters don’t even have feelings for each other! (My character has a very one sided crush that stems from the fact our characters were childhood best friends but he’s made it very clear his character is not interested in romance and I was perfectly fine with it). On the off chance we ever did break up… I certainly wouldn’t cause problems at the dnd table. I’d probably poke fun at him a bit but other than that i wouldn’t act like that pick me did! TLDR that pick me was weird do not pick her
First story: bruhhh the idea of a samurai and a spy falling in love is so epic! I would have jumped on that immediately! Think of all the possibilities! A clash of both cultures and ideals which brings them ultimately closer! The spy starts out hostile, wanting to steal an item from the party but it doesn't work so they are forced to cooperate with the party instead! By working together now and being roped into the shenanigans of the party they naturally have to spend time with the samurai - countless ideal opportunities for rp! If you want to make it real spicy? Have the samurai hand the item over a magic item that the spy was planning on stealing from them! "So you're just... Giving it to me?" "Yes, of course." "But why?" "You asked for it no? It would be disrespectful to deny your request when I have no need for it in the first place." "Are you not concerned what I might do with it?" "Hm, perhaps a little. But I wish to trust you regardless. There is no honor in pointless conflict." Just think of it! Arghhhh!
And then the spy slowly opens up about her past and her goals and kind of starts idealizing the samurai, because ha, there he goes, Mr. Perfect "I am the epitome of honor and chivalry". But the samurai also opens up, maybe he loses an important fight or doesn't manage to kill a certain enemy so they get away. And he blames himself for it! Laments how disappointed his parents/clan/teacher must be, that he still fails when it matters the most! And the spy realised that oh, this man had to fight tooth and nail for every one of his achievements. He had to work hard to get where he is and he continues, because he holds himself to this incredibly high standard that seems impossible to reach, yet he still manages to do it time and again. And the spy sits next to him like "Nonono, none of this is your fault. You're wonderful, kind and caring and the most honorable man I know." And she realises. Oh no. I think I'm falling for him. And you see she has this magic item that really helps with tracking people or helps people get stronger through tough training, and she really doesn't know what go do with the thing because it's just collecting dust, if only she had someone who would take it off of her. And the samurai is surprised because "Are you trying to help me?" "What? Psh no, not at all. I told you I just don't need it, really. You can have it, if you want." And of course he does take it and he smiles, oh he smiles so warmly and genuinely (has anyone ever looked at her like that before? She's not sure) and for the first time in what feels like forever, she feels good about giving something away. He thanks her and promises to put it to good use, but really to her it doesn't matter at all. Knowing you made someone happy is intoxicating enough as it is. He goes out to catch the suspect, defeat the enemy, rectify his mistake, whatever it is. And it works. At first he struggles, because even though he is thankful for the help it can be hard to accept help for problems that you believe are solely yours to solve. But he remembers how happy she was when he took it, quietly, trying to hide it, thinking he wouldn't notice. And so he uses it and he achieves his goal. And when he returns he thanks her again, his demeanor both softer but also more confident, and he wants to give it back. "Oh it's alright, you can keep it." says the spy (or perhaps she can no longer be called one). And in her newfound bravery born from missing someone in a way she didn't know she was capable of, she asks "Perhaps you could take me out to dinner instead?" The samurai agrees. Yeah I definitely have to make this an entire story now, AHHHHH-
"incredible, someone with a mortgage wrote that" is actually such a banger insult ngl
The lesson from Crispy's confusion over the word "canoodling" is that old timey slang for sex can sneak pass the asexual filter in a way that doesn't cause crispy.exe to stop working. Other words this should be further tested with are "hanky panky" and "making whoopee."
Or even just cuddling and heavy petting. Because it might mean the lighter end of things, it's allowed a pass.
I'm 63, a lot of words have "drifted" in meaning during my lifetime.
@@sherylcascadden4988 As an ace myself, "heavy petting" does NOT make it through the filter. Why? _Furries and fanfic._ Two things that pop up frequent enough in these horror stories that the connection is _immediately_ there.
Everything else gets a pass tho.
Wham bang, thank you ma´am.
I could have sworn canoodling was just flirting and cuddling
@@fernandod4046 ... I thought it had something to do with a canoe
As someone who commissions a lot of art of his characters, people who try and coerce artists to give them free art piss me off. Artists are trying their best to make a living off a craft that takes a LOT work, and people do all sorts of things to try and devalue that hard work for a freebie.
I get so angry when people ask for free art, I'm more interested in ceramics but I do love to draw. Art takes hours, weeks even.
The 2nd story, the guy who waited until the last minute to make a sheet, that's a "that guy" strategy to cheat on their sheet. Basically, they make the sheet absolute last minute so you skip the review step because they gave it to you while you were distracted. I had a player who did this EVERY TIME.
He became a "that guy" because the DM ruined the love interest and made her a villain. TLDR: DM ruins players love interest NPC and creates a "that guy".
Is it just me? Or is Crispy showing signs of Hoard of the Dragon Queen horror story trauma?
Yeah, it's called "Playing Hoard of the Dragon Queen."
@@TigerW0lf Is it really that bad?
@Sanodi21, it gets SO MANY things wrong ESPECIALLY with the Dragons themselves
I'm curious why Crispy seems to have ptsd when it comes to horde of the dragon qween.
Or am I thinking of Tyranny of Dragons?
DM: You didn’t turn in your character sheet. Sorry, it’s too late, you can’t play this evening.
That Guy: So anyways, I started blasting.
The typos tend to throw me more than the actual story twists.
How are you all missing the DM is THAT GUY too? Taking a payers idea, incorporating it and then perverting the idea would irk many people. Both the DM and THAT GUY were THAT GUY!
@@michellejean11 did you read the same story? Or is there a post calling the OP out for trying to paint themselves in a good light?
michellejean11 ...Did you miss the part where the DM asked him first? If the guy agreed to it you can't really blame the DM that much.
@@Tdzilla1 I’m not blaming the DM, I was making a Danny DeVito joke
I half expected the Pick-Me Girl's relationship with the BBEG to end like this
Sorceress: "That's horrible! Your plan is horrible!! You're horrible!!! You're an irredeemable monster!!!!"
BBEG: "Oh, oh! What took you so long? Idiot!!" *Backhands*
I think even Puss in Boots memes gave up on her :P Or maybe even the BBEG would be begging the party to take her back.
Every BBEG: I am a cold blooded murderer with no rules that I follow and no boundaries that I respect. I will destroy your life and murder everyone you love.
This girl: I can fix him.
I wanna laugh because this happens with irl psychos but I also wanna cry because this happens with irl psychos.
"When our bodies forget that we're supposed to be on the same team."
That has to be the best way I've ever heard that phrased.
One exception to "make your character beforehand" (and personally I think this should be standard to avoid cheating) is if part of Session 0 is making your characters together.
Good addition. I know a lot of non-D&D games suggest you do this, and whatever you're playing making characters together lets you tie their backstories together, or come up with a reason for them to work as a team pre-game. That can make the first few sessions a lot smoother.
One of my groups isn't used to learning new systems. So when I'm bringing them new games we're going to be spending time before the session making characters and going over the rules. That way both me and the books are there if they have any questions and it's easier to see where they're struggling.
Well at our game store they'll make a character randomly on the spot for you. I know a couple of people who've done that just for a change of pace
@@peterriverajr6899 that actually sounds pretty fun if that's what you expect from a campaign.
@@davidspring4003 this was adventures league it was more a series of one shots and short adventures but it is fun
That whole "the players should be the strongest force" mentality is never gonna fly with me. It's one of the reasons I don't use npc classes for npcs, only player classes. Once you start down the road of player characters being the strongest beings every story becomes a "You're the chosen ones" thing and it's lame. I know this is a controversial take, once I got into a long argument about how many characters in a given country would be level 20 and I said hundreds, which made the person I was talking with gasp. They thought outside the party there should be none. All I'm gonna say is choose your words carefully if you wanna get cute with the local wizard or army commander in my campaigns, lol
I personally love doing the "Important-to-the-World NPCs are powerful and very busy" route. Why doesn't the Archmage Wizard that gives the party hot chocolate fight the BBEG? "I'm sorry my friends, but if I don't stop this portal from opening up on the other side of the world, we'll lose regardless. This battle is to be fought on two fronts, and I know you can all handle BBEG."
@@tatersalad76 Exactly, stuff like that makes the world feel real and lived in. What's happening to the PCs should feel important to them but it shouldn't be the only important thing that's happening. Otherwise the world starts to feel like those old western movie sets where all the buildings were just facades and everything that isn't facing the camera is just unpainted wood. Just because you don't design an encounter down every alley or around every corner doesn't mean you shouldn't be giving the impression that there isn't.
Forgetting to eat before a D&D session. Oof.
"I am going to start Raging"
"You're not playing a Barbarian."
"Not my character. Me. I'm hangry!"
Pay your artists people. I've been lucky enough that I haven't had an abhorrently bad experiences in my career but god I hear about so much. I cry and beg into the universe. Respect your artists and people who are knowledgeable in their feilds
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Careful with not inviting Strahd to a party in Barovia, Tea Cakes. HIS hissyfits can actually do damage.
I have actually have seen romance done in a dnd game a number of times. You just... need the right people. And more importantly, know what is rollplay, and what is personal, and make sure to keep those lines clear.
Shoutout to Roy for dropping 2 solid "no"s to a pickme and leaving with no further comment. Chad move right there.
This women is so insane man. No wonder why it didn't last.
They were all in their late 20's and still decided to keep that girl around after multiple years. Those idiots should of let Sarah go day 1. Always the weird dudes who keep the weird women around.
Third story: this gave me such PTSD and anger in the beginning. STG if I ever get contacted by another person convinced that their shitty game idea is the absolute best in the world that's gonna hit big on Kickstarter and wants free art for it "for future profit" I'm gonna punt them into the stratosphere. I work as a professional illustrator and concept artist myself and these types of people are the absolute WORST.
Intro: I was worried the table would act like jerks over OP choking on food. Thankfully they didn't, allowing the choking itself be the horror. Tabletop horror stories have shown there's people who prioritize their fun over someone's well being.
1st story: The samurai portion definitely felt bad, that guy overreacting to the plan to spice a love interest up. Later on he felt moronic.
2nd story: Hearing the DM admit problem player's wife was similarly bad explains how he could possibly get married. Good to hear the problem got kicked instead of OP having to leave just to avoid him.
3rd story: Another case of an agreed upon game plan getting tossed aside because someone's whiny. While it's usually DM's harassing player builds, players harassing a DM also happens. The players who stayed gave garbage advice for this scenario, like they expect they'll get their way next time.
4th story: Three good reasons to not date Sarah? Don't want to, no obligation to have three reasons, and this conversation is over. Good thing she accepted being dropped like a sack of bricks and replaced by sane people both in and out if the table.
More groups should adopt my rule #1: under no circumstances will belligerence be tolerated. The vast majority of problems can be resolved through discussion, but that all falls apart when players start getting stubborn and combative, so any instance of that gets stamped out immediately
Sara reminds me of someone I once played betrayal in the house on the hill. We had to explain to this women ever single turn how to take her entire turn and never once actually tried to learn. Her husband picked it up immediately but in her mind we were being rude for asking her to use her head when we’re just supposed to have mindless fun
I like how my current party avoids the first one:
An hour of warmup play, and then we take an hour of dinner break. Then two more hours of play.
I flirted with a villain, and she ended up dying in the next session. Something that pissed my character off, and I got a reunion after canonically the universe reversed but we kept our memories. I got reunited with her, she wasn't really a big bad evil character. And we brought down the actual BBEG, who I got to challenge to a duel for his traitorous character.
Literally been refreshing this channel for the last 20 minutes lol lets get it
WENDY from FAIRY TAIL as a Love Interest?! She's like TWELVE!
Oh… yikes. That’s rough buddy.
Depends when the post was made. Wendy was 12 at introduction, but time skips happened so she aged. I think she's closer to 14-15 now, give or take when the sequel series happened.
@@ArcCaravan still a big nono for me
I will be honest Crispy, your the only youtuber that I keep up with daily uploads. keep up the amazing work!
I thought he said ASMR Paladin, and that was a very strange combination...
As soon as Wendy got mentioned I knew the player was going to be a problem.
Reason 1 not to date Sarah: she's the sort of person who thinks she's entitled to reasons when getting turned down.
I mean the pick me was a lot. I do find it interesting she asked out 3 of the 4 guys. Imagine being that last guy. Either you're thinking you're the luckiest man alive or you feel kinda hurt she went for everyone BUT you lol. I'm gay but I'd probably feel a lil sad like wait what's wrong with me 🥺. At the same time she's pretty yikes idk lol 😂
I thought it was 3 guys with the girl making it a group of 4.
My first 5e PC, I made at the table. I didn't have the books, so had to borrow from the table. They were explaining how the classes and races differed from 3.5e, which I was familiar with. After like 5-10 min of me sifting through the PHB, I still couldn't settle on a race, (I knew before I got there I wanted to play a sorcerer), I was like, I'll just be a human, let's play.
Zero backstory, so went with classic amnesia to start. Later developed/uncovered, she was actually a dragon whose mother had true polymorphic her into a human to hide her draconic origins from the cult of tiamat. Though as she leveled, her skin was slowly covered in shiny scales that she hid. The gnome rogue called her a "shiny human."
First story be like that scene from Asobi Asobase where Hanako tries to talk while hiding a candy under her tongue and it slips into the back of her throat, causing her to unleash an unearthly screech.
That high fantasy one with the clockwork peace keepers sounds like a good world, wouldn't mind experiencing that.
Fickle the original players they just wanted to murder hobo
Always bring snacks to your session. This includes online games as well. And take regular bio and snack breaks
Not even DND related but I feel that it’s a oddly a little more common than it should be for a group of guys to encounter a girl who tries to systematically do that.
Story 3: When they attempted to attack the peacekeepers on the train, the DM should've asked why they were doing that, equating them to the city guard or something along those lines. "If you walk into a town, is the first thing you do assault the guards? Like, before you even find a tavern or go to the objective of a quest? You just kill any armed person walking the street?" It's not even murderhobo behavior, it's just insanity, especially if the clockwork peacekeepers are a known entity in this world.
Exactly - the players weren't the real problem, it was the OP not saying anything, so I've got no sympathy for what happened.
@@mikanekoThose players overreacted over facing consequences for their actions.
There is a thin line between murderhobo and insanity (at least in-game).
@@ArcCaravan Which would never have happened if the DM had cut it off when it started. The DM chose to just let them go through with it, and then went 'gosh I'm so shocked they're mad at me for letting them do something pointless'. If the DM had opened their mouth and said "No, guys, you're not getting it, the peacekeepers aren't meant to be attacked, knock it off" they wouldn't have had to overreact to their own stupidity. So in this, both players and DM take a hard fail
@@mikaneko DM warned them it was a bad idea and even if the DM forced them to stop, they'd likely whine about railroading because they didn't get to do what they wanted.
Just reminding you Crispy to eat dinner before DnD!
YOU are THAT GUY TOO! I find love interests in D&D rather silly unless it's a real life couple playing. But if YOU are allowing him a love interest deciding to make her evil was a rotten thing to do. Now THAT GUY becomes that guy when he stayed in your game to mess it up. For my part you do me dirty and I dump you and your game.
Holy shit an actual screenshot was provided. I've never seen that before!
I dont think that "...what?" After the marriage comment was read, i think that was just Crispy's authentic reaction.
The high fantasy setting with clockwork protectors sounds kinda cool
Ugh that 2nd story with the chronically unprepared PC... We're dealing with this at our table rn, too.
A new player joined alongside her bf. Her bf is a forever DM and does well. But the gf? She doesn't do any work for her characters. It's a problem we're hoping we're gonna solve it soon.
Good on Sarah for hopefully learning from her mistakes.
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This is the glory of Pathfinder 2.
I have introduced more than 20 people to the system, little less than half of them first-timers at tables.
No confusion. None. It's DEAD simple and genius.
Just needing reminders about how their abilities work on the squares.
I will forever wipe with 5E book pages until the day I die ever since 2E came out.
The internet doesn't know what canoodling is, I'm getting old
"Someone with a mortgage wrote that," hits so fucking HARD! like that was just savage!
And that's why you always bring snacks to the game.
Honestly, the whole "Your love interest is secretly a red mage" thing is a bad idea in my opinion. Unless you cleared it with the player, making the character they specifically wanted as a love interest be a psycho villain is generally misguided. The player reacted badly, but still.
I don´t see why that is bad, red mages are a decent class in Final Fantasy.
@@nidohime6233 Can't tell if that's a joke or not, but just in case it isn't, those aren't the same kind of red mages. In D&D, the Red Mages of Thay are one of the several cartoonishly evil factions of the world, basically a bunch of homicidal death-cultists. They are almost never anything beyond chaotic evil and their antics usually spell doom for entire countries, maybe the whole world. So for the DM to casually make a player's hoped-for love interest into a red mage...yeah, that's a dick move. A big one too. It's basically the same as making the player's requested love-interest character a sith in a Star Wars Jedi vs Sith war campaign. Can't really be surprised if the player doesn't like it.
Also take into account the love interest was inspired by Wendy from Fairy Tail.
*im not agreeing with That Guy by any metric but if you take Wendy and turn her into a Thay Wizard, buddy pal we're gonna have problems*
@@WarmLusaminedon't know almost anything about Fairy Tail, could you please explain who Wendy is and how they aren't fit to be a Red Mage?
@darklord884
tldr; Wendy Marvell is the typical shy, sweet girl that most animes typical use for their FMC. The Wizards of Thay are cutthroat and, as mentioned above, "cartoonishly" evil to the point that when they finally decided one member crossed the line, THAT MEMBER BECAME A DARKLORD FOR WHAT HE DID.
In short, making a character like Wendy a Red Wizard is like claiming a baby bunny is related to a parasitic wasp.
A lot of forever-players get confused about linear stories or deep lore. They see they cant play the murderhobo walnut, and confuse it with railroading
Please dont do this lol
I do believe that shooting comment was a typo and they meant shouting
1st story. Am i reading this wrong or did OP turn Samurai's love interest into an enemy of the party? If so I can understand him being checked out for future games from OP because that's not "Spice" that's a straight up Screw You
That chick in the last story would even Fujiko Mine say "make up your damn mind, lady!"
Hahaha canoodling is a really old way of saying 'fooling around'
At 17:42 I couldn't help but be distracted by... an oddly familiar drum beat... lol.
Lol I have NO idea what happened. I mean… I kind of do?
That’s one of the transitions that I use between stories. Background audio was unmuted (for some reason). Why it popped up in the middle of the video, I have no idea.
0:40 THIS IS WHY Y'ALL NEED TO LEARN THE HEIMLICH
5:00
'While your DM preps 3 to 4 hours a week.'
Me: 'Uh, yea. I totally prep that much every week for my sessions. It's not like I whip things together in 30 mins and improvise the rest. Nope. Not at all. 4 hours. Minimum. Yup...'
On average it seems like DMs prep more than players, at least they need to. Exceptions exist, but not really an excuse for players to mess up like that guy.
One of my player character, aa fighter orc, met a BEG (not putting the first B as he was only the villain of the first arc) before his reveal, and they got a bit close through similar views and careful wording from my BEG to not seel himself out. When the reveal got done, he refused to fight him and just held him still in a grapple to not let him hurt others. He used the same talks they had when getting friends to plead him to stop his ritual about to drown the region.
In the end the BEG gave in (not without having two other characters at 0HP stabilized by the cleric), and forced the team to get out while he was dealing with the monster he had summoned. They never saw him again, but the orc fighter still hopes he is okey and searches for him during his downtime. I will not say if i have planned something or not in case my dear fighter friend come across this.
But i think, that's how you deal with the reveal of a close NPC revealed to be evil. Or at least one of the ways. There's so much to do with a relation turning betrayal, but i guess that would require putting work into it rather than having the NPC fall in their arms.
Canoodling: kiss and cuddle amorously
Or if they use the word wrong "THEY BE F***ING!!"
“He wanted gis love interest to be a rip off of wendy from fairy tail”
I dont care how old his character is, that’s a red flag. Only pink if his character is also, like, 13
I was concerned just because it was Fairy Tail.
@Crispy, just a note, RAW, you can cast two cantrips in a turn if one is a bonus action and one is a standard action. You can only cast a cantrip and a leveled spell in a turn if the leveled spell is a bonus action. You can, only in the case of having two levels in fighter, cast two leveled spells in a turn through action surge.
Now, back to your regular stories...
for that first story, me and a fellow dm have dealt with that plenty of times with one player, he would lose his character sheets or forget them almost every week and ask us to make him a new one, majority of the time tellign us he wants it to be basically some character from an anime that got isekei'd into the dnd world. it got every annoying, he is starting to go for more original characters now but still asks others to build them for him, me and my friend had enoug hand we arent doign it anymore since it takes time away from us DMing or doing other things.
Agreed on Cobblemon. It looks way more in line with Minecraft's aesthetics.
I still enjoy 4e without shame. 🤘🏻 The simplified version, Essentials, was also really cool imo.
I totally thought that opening story was going to segue into some food ad.
The last story reminds me of a story that happened while I was in middle school/high school
Just Murderhobo Things I think underlines the importance of session zero. Taking as a given the GM told the players up front how things were going to be different, for the players to ignore these "warnings" just proves they either needed to get over their idiotic ideas or not be in that campaign.
Yo, I was literally playing a cobblemon server while listening to this, lol
Honestly, I would be mad, too if the DM made my backstory NPC love interest an enemy spy.
PLOT
While being against that NPC choice was reasonable, the reaction was overboard. I'm guessing the plan was her changing sides, something that spiced things up as both DM and player agreed on.
I'm confused about sara's story, they say that she couldn't cast two fireballs in a turn even if it was quickened. Quickened spell is a meta magic that sorcerers have, and I'm wondering if someone forgot to mention that they were using it to cast two fireballs
Apparently Quickened only allows a sorcerer to follow a spell up with a cantrip, not another spell slot spell. So two casts of fireball aren't allowed.
@@pinkpugilist no, the rules state that the spell has to have a casting time of one action, so using the quickened spell metamagic would allow two fireballs.
@@Tsalgood Depends on what your table thinks RAI vs RAW is. It’s poorly written and is confusing, imo. More reasons why I don’t play 5e anymore.
I come to Crispy's Tavern for the hard "H"s
Hwat do hyou hmean?
I don't even consider my character to be a real adventurer until like level 5, until then he's just getting the feel for this adventuring thing. Yeah regular enemies should be beatable by the party, but that doesn't mean they should be able to kill literally anyone and be the strongest force in the entire universe at 3rd level.
I usually think level 3 is when the adventure really starts since that's when most classes get subclasses or important features. Then characters can stand out more both aesthetically and mechanically, regardless of roleplaying and world building.
@@ArcCaravan I know about level 3, I typically start campaigns at level 3, I'm just saying it's level 5 when I'd call adventurers worthy of the title. Before that they're more like capable travellers who are willing to do the occasional risky task, maybe it's just my own point of view, but that's how I picture it.
Adventurers are what you hire when you need something special, that mercenaries, sellswords, guardsman or knights just aren't right for the job.
@@PaladinGear15Probably a differing of opinions, I'm just saying my views of the topic (hopefully helping the algorithm somehow). I generally see adventurers as anyone with a class level who goes on adventures, not really a title to me. What you call "real adventurer" I'd call hero (give or take alignment), probably with an extra requirement like beating a big boss character or completing a large quest.
I missed Crown of Deceit this week!
They said, "keep npcs back" makes me think they had dmpcs come Chad them out of trouble...
Early gang! Also Yeesh, that girl was a nightmare…
Pick Me Sorcerer: Guys just let me talk to to him! He’ll listen to me.
It's interesting how the 4 main channels each have something to set them apart from each other. You have your skits. Drake has his fanart. Critcrab has his little squishy crab minions. And Doge has his cats.😊
To be fair, if you play a 4h game, changes are you will need some food. It will also keep your energy up enough to have a good game. I have eaten quick meals while playing, so take care of your basics during games
Cobblemon shoutout hype!
When our group gets together, we make dinner first. Sit down to eat. Talk about characters and stuff. Finish up, clear the table, and play! 🎲 But we can only do that when we game IRL.
Idk if its an english thing but “you remind me of my wife” is a joking thing said to men and women. I hear it in the workplace and the pub constantly, I wouldn’t think of it as a red flag ever
In America it kinda depends on the tone it can be a joke but a lot of men use it to just outright dismiss the opinion of a women. Kinda more similar to how people might use "thanks mom". Sometimes a joke sometimes passive aggressively saying you're being uptight and ruining things
Kinda random, but the "action economy" thing in the last story jumped out at me. Yeah, the whole Bonus Action spell thing was _not_ written well in the Player's Handbook. The simpler, clearer phrasing would be, "you can only cast one leveled spell on your turn." As is, it's kinda confusing.
But also, there _is_ a way to cast Fireball twice in one turn - Twinned Spell. I can't help but wonder if anyone mentioned this to our Pick-me Sorceress, and if not, why?
Wait you can twin fireball? I thought it had to be single target?
I started with Live Action Roleplay in my basement playing with my brother. We started out using characters like Shinobi, Shadow Master, Link, Ganon, Zelda. We created a few unique characters. Over time those ripped off characters became more original as time progressed with their character progression. I still add to that story on occasion to this day. I also participated in non-literate, semi-literate, literate, and R2 level role-play. Advanced literate is a meaningless level since the term is used so loosely.
Samurai dude? I had exact same player at my table for a while. He asked for love interest and.... and... he send me jinx trailer from LoL to describe what kind of character she is.
So now in my Traveller (hardish SF) Universe Director of Operations for Duke's of Trojan Reach Intelligence Service is a bit gun-ho woman with very advanced cybernetics.
And after almost a year of campaign he asked if space suits could be considered armor. After he aquired quite advanced suit, basically imprevious to most small arms.
Where can I watch Ginny Di talking about the friend group thing he showed the clip of? Curious if he was in a campaign with them.
So then I started blasting. XD
I think some players hear "you won't be super powerful" and go okay I won't be killing god session one but still think the local authority should be mince meat
Can't help but wonder why Loyd ended the relationship considering how I have a general idea of how Pick Mes are to date. Typically it's a lot of putting down other girls to make them look better, a lot of desperation and neediness, a lack of self and in more extreme cases, very strong anti-feminism views. So curiosity has me wanting to know what she did after just a month that had him noping out.
I never understand people not prepping characters for campaigns when they have more than a week to do so... then again maybe that's because I have so many characters lying about-... no, no i still make new characters for campaigns...
Some of the things I have learned throughout the years is anytime someone uses insults like "incel" "pick me girl" or any of the other buzz word insults. They are more often than not about to tell you lies about the person and are using those buzz words to cause an emotional reaction out of you so their side looks better. Extremely rarely has anyone ever included phrases like that in their comments and has it turned out they were telling the truth. Take it with a grain of salt and dont believe anything you read on the internet until you can verify it.
DON'T PICK HER
Yeah, I did. I was in a friend group just like that. Had a girl who dated everyone in the group, even me.
I feel that I need to play devil's advocate for the player in the first story with the love intresst.
Given how invested the player was in making his npc love intresst it should have clued the dm in that it was important to the pc.
For the dm then to turn around and make the npc an agent of an evil faction and opponent to the party could be seen as twisting it into something it should not be in the pc's eyes.
Some may like the conflict and potential for a redemtion arc for that npc especially if they are a love intresst but if it is handled badly or sprung on them with little warning it sends a message to the players not to trust things in their backstory or trust the dm with sensitive character info.
It's can be like writing about a pc's fear of something in the past only for it to keep coming up time and again to torment them just because the dm knows that it will have an affect on the pc.
In the follow up I can make an argument for the player not wanting to give any info to the dm so as to not give them more ammo to hurt their pc with, it's the kind of behavior that can led to players making pcs that are orphans and dont care for anything but this own survival willing to throw anyone els under the buss and never trusting any npc they meet as any interraction is just an opening to hurt them with.
The op could very well be the bad guy in another horror story without knowing it.
Canoodling: to engage in amorous embracing, caressing, and kissing.
I once had a player who kept saying he had to "finish up his character" and that it would only be a minute
An hour of waiting later he finished his character and revealed that he never worked on his character before entering the call
Also in the same session one of the players was driving home from work while in the call saying that he'll be home soon to play and we almost waited for two hours, part of it was him driving home the other part was him arguing with his mom and starting up his computer
I would have told either of these people to fuck off but I was doing the one-shot for someone who asked me to do it and they were some of his friends so I felt like I couldn't
The first (intro) story seems less a horror story and more a comic one (at least in hindsight), though I can understand how terrifying it can be to hear someone choke online and not being able to help. Hopefully it doesn't happen again to OP.
"You need a character": I'm very guilty of working at the last minute on a character, but at least I'd have the decency to accept that the GM has a point in not letting me in if I take too long. And this is a one-shot; you don't need a long-winded character thesis, just a general concept and a quick write-up.
"Just Some Advice": Yeah, artists live off their commission work, so asking them to do stuff for free is insulting. You don't ask your buddy the plumber to fix your sink for free unless you're BFFs. Plus, a "girl" knowing more about game development than him setting him off is funny, even if it did bring out his worst behavior yet. I just want him to choke on the idea a "girl" knows more about what's clearly his dream job (though he'll clearly never actively do anything to advance that dream, he just expects it to fall into his lap). Also even if it is his passion project, he's clearly not good at it.
"Just Murderhobo Things": I'd say both sides were at fault here. The DM for putting a few strong barriers, but mostly the party for just trying to go loco even though they were warned. I'd say mostly a problem of player/DM mismatch. Hopefully both sides get the party/DM they deserve.
"Just Pick Me": ...I think the "Pick Me" girl was just there because she wanted a date, and had quite a few issues. She was just at the table to flirt with people, as she didn't seem focused or concentrated on the game, even before the breakup.
"Just Murderhobo Things" - I find it hard to blame the DM when no reason was given for the players attacking the peacekeepers beyond deciding to be murder hobos. And it was only mismatched because the players lied about agreeing with the DM on the game.
@@ArcCaravan agreed. I'm listening to a campaign where one of the first fights, the PCs had to surrender to not get TPKd. It's a system where, as the DM explained, being outnumbered makes a really big difference. Real stakes are good sometimes, and I hope that DM can find ppl who are actually willing to work with that
I know a GM who was going to run a game where magic destroyed the planet we where on and there was only a floating crust shatered into chucks and the part we where on magic was outlawed besided people inslaved by the goverment to power and fly the space ships (can't remember the DND space ships names right now x.x) And most everyone in the party had magic..... but we where all level 1 and didn't even have access to all our cantrips like i think we got our spells but only 2 level 1 spells and the rest where cantrips because magic was so hard to find. Most of us where talking about stuff like means of hiding the fact we used magic and taking stealth magics and the like .... I think it was gastault so we could have other classes too but we where SUPER underpowered and at best people wanted to kill us at worst they wanted to scoop our brains out and use us as starship engines. We had to find a way to gain power / spells with out giving ourselves away and evenchaly steal a ship.
First post from some guys was out right flat asking some people in a bar where they could buy some spell books and trying to blast peoples face off with fire bolts when they where like "HERITIC"!! u.u
People started fighting gauards and GM tossed the game out the window.
For the second story, He became a "that guy" because the DM ruined the love interest and made her a villain. TLDR: DM ruins players love interest and creates a "that guy".
First story, love how you gloss over the dm being at fault by making the samurai's love interest's complete betrayal to the country as "a little spicy." No wonder the guy soured on that dm's games. That said, he should have just dropped, rather than be a problem player.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is something wrong with Hoard of the Dragon Queen? I thought the cursed campaign for Crispy was the strahd campaign?
I met my boyfriend at our dnd table. We have never once been an icky couple at the table and I wouldn’t dare bring our real life drama into the game. Our characters don’t even have feelings for each other! (My character has a very one sided crush that stems from the fact our characters were childhood best friends but he’s made it very clear his character is not interested in romance and I was perfectly fine with it). On the off chance we ever did break up… I certainly wouldn’t cause problems at the dnd table. I’d probably poke fun at him a bit but other than that i wouldn’t act like that pick me did!
TLDR that pick me was weird do not pick her
Conoodling, cun-noodle-ing, ive seen it used for several stages of affection but usually it’s just used as a family friendly word for doin the do
Wait what’s wrong with Hoard of the Dragon Queen? My wife bought me that book for Christmas.
Canoodling is petting and kissing for the cute couple, basically.
First story: bruhhh the idea of a samurai and a spy falling in love is so epic! I would have jumped on that immediately!
Think of all the possibilities! A clash of both cultures and ideals which brings them ultimately closer!
The spy starts out hostile, wanting to steal an item from the party but it doesn't work so they are forced to cooperate with the party instead! By working together now and being roped into the shenanigans of the party they naturally have to spend time with the samurai - countless ideal opportunities for rp!
If you want to make it real spicy? Have the samurai hand the item over a magic item that the spy was planning on stealing from them! "So you're just... Giving it to me?" "Yes, of course." "But why?" "You asked for it no? It would be disrespectful to deny your request when I have no need for it in the first place." "Are you not concerned what I might do with it?" "Hm, perhaps a little. But I wish to trust you regardless. There is no honor in pointless conflict."
Just think of it! Arghhhh!
And then the spy slowly opens up about her past and her goals and kind of starts idealizing the samurai, because ha, there he goes, Mr. Perfect "I am the epitome of honor and chivalry".
But the samurai also opens up, maybe he loses an important fight or doesn't manage to kill a certain enemy so they get away. And he blames himself for it! Laments how disappointed his parents/clan/teacher must be, that he still fails when it matters the most!
And the spy realised that oh, this man had to fight tooth and nail for every one of his achievements. He had to work hard to get where he is and he continues, because he holds himself to this incredibly high standard that seems impossible to reach, yet he still manages to do it time and again.
And the spy sits next to him like "Nonono, none of this is your fault. You're wonderful, kind and caring and the most honorable man I know."
And she realises. Oh no. I think I'm falling for him.
And you see she has this magic item that really helps with tracking people or helps people get stronger through tough training, and she really doesn't know what go do with the thing because it's just collecting dust, if only she had someone who would take it off of her.
And the samurai is surprised because "Are you trying to help me?" "What? Psh no, not at all. I told you I just don't need it, really. You can have it, if you want."
And of course he does take it and he smiles, oh he smiles so warmly and genuinely (has anyone ever looked at her like that before? She's not sure) and for the first time in what feels like forever, she feels good about giving something away. He thanks her and promises to put it to good use, but really to her it doesn't matter at all. Knowing you made someone happy is intoxicating enough as it is.
He goes out to catch the suspect, defeat the enemy, rectify his mistake, whatever it is. And it works. At first he struggles, because even though he is thankful for the help it can be hard to accept help for problems that you believe are solely yours to solve. But he remembers how happy she was when he took it, quietly, trying to hide it, thinking he wouldn't notice. And so he uses it and he achieves his goal.
And when he returns he thanks her again, his demeanor both softer but also more confident, and he wants to give it back.
"Oh it's alright, you can keep it." says the spy (or perhaps she can no longer be called one). And in her newfound bravery born from missing someone in a way she didn't know she was capable of, she asks "Perhaps you could take me out to dinner instead?"
The samurai agrees.
Yeah I definitely have to make this an entire story now, AHHHHH-