I like how Crispy starts out the "Nice Guy" story speaking normally, then gradually shifts to his "That Guy" voice as it becomes obvious who the real psychopath is. That's some quality role-playing, right there. :D
The nice guy one hurts. My dude. A woman can be kind and friendly without it meaning she wants you. I know you're socially awkward, but you can't just go and "fall in love" with every pretty female who's nice to you. This is one of the big things that scares us lady types out of actively participating with the nerdy communities we're technical a part of or are interested in joining.
I get what you are saying and its the proper way to see things. Anyhow, as someone who was socially awkward, I feel like I have to break a lance on behalf of socially awkward guys. It's not like you choose who you fall in love with and to me it really isn't surprising that someone who is socially not very competent gets a crush on a girl who treats him decently. I have experienced this in my youth. I was the nerdy outcast who got bullied by all the cool kids and who got ridiculed and exposed whenever someone found out which girl he liked. You better bet that this kind of guy grows very attached to a girl who treats him decently or even with some affection for once. And I really can't see that what that guy did that was so terrible and unforgiveable that he should be put down and judged for all the Internet to see - especially since the presentation was already not neutral and the girl's take was not presented. All I can see is someone who is hurt, seeks comfort and seeks to cope with rejection in some way. It's not like I give much credence to his idea that this girl is a psychopath or whatever - sounds to me rather like some rationalization to deal with his hurt. But "You should stay for the night" is still a suggestion and not a decision or obligation. Yeah, it's not a very elegant or pleasing way to show affection but he tried and I don't see him doing anything with ill intent. So, who am I to judge?
I had to slowly remove myself from a game I really liked because a guy I genuinely liked as a friend had clearly become obsessed with me to the point it was damaging his marriage. I just slowly showed up less and less and eventually stepped away leaving my gaming group because I cared too much about this guy as a friend to watch him destroy his relationship with a woman I also considered a good friend. I removed myself from their lives and occasionally say hi to them or like a picture of their kids. They have two adorable kids now, I don't regret what I did, but it really sucked I needed to do it.
Typically, the reason why a lot of guys like him don't understand this fact is that most people in their day-to-day lives don't show them even basic courtesy. So when someone they find attractive is very friendly in every interaction it's overwhelming. Not saying that's always the case, but it seems to fit the bill for that story specifically. Hope he gets help so he can straighten himself out and avoid getting himself and others into situations like that.
Gonna add in that no, just because the barista smiled at you and knows your order, it does not mean she is your twu luv. Customer service jobs force us to be nice and friendly. That also goes from the nice comic book employee or game store employee that shows you around or helps you find your product.
“I think it’s weird to [fall in love] this fast.” It is because it is not love, it’s lust. Incel was obsessed with having a cute asian girlfriend and sad when she refused.
@@rynowatcher Honestly that's one of his earliest red flags. It tastes bitterly like nice guy sexism, condescension disguised as a compliment. In other words it's just a reflavored "Wow I can't believe I found a girl that ACTUALLY likes -geeky hobby- and not just FAKING it for ATTENTION and SIMPS!"
@@dantauche7917 "oh but sex is the furthest thing from his mind, he just wanted her to stay safe, but if she initiated it of course he wouldnt outright reject her..." and blah blah blabbity blah we all know thats exactly how he'd say it if he could lol
@@mrroboshadow slight little nitpick you should probably replace he with I since it's a quotation marks and I'm assuming you're impersonating the op Man I sound like a 🤓
@@dantauche7917 Yeah I'd say that's it, she was nice to him like a normal amount and that set his incel brain off into thinking she must be interested.
Ok class, repeat after me: Being nice does not mean flirting. Being nice does not make someone obligated to spend time with you. Being nice does not mean that you are entitled to their whole being. Being nice is a common courtesy. Not a sign that they want to get into your bed and just because you are attracted to someone it does not mean that they are attracted to you. Got it? …I’ll be back for the next time this happens (because some people never learn)
@@ursulajoni15 The fact that so many of these niceguys are so crazy as to think that basic politeness is a sign of romance makes me think that their behavior is so bad that most people just can't tolerate them.
That Nice Guy story is eye-opening to how their minds work. And then the "psychopath girl's" version of events. It's so incredibly rare we get both sides of the story like this
The girl's version was not even necessary. The nice guy's version already had all the signs: 1) Asking a girl to stay the night after getting her alone. and then "pouring out all his feelings" dramatically, instead of just telling her "Hey, I like you, wanna go on a date?" in a more neutral setting. 2) Constantly projecting inner feelings and knowledge to her, like how she *must* have known how he felt.
@@haski002 I mostly compare this to other stories where there's only one side. Not saying it was ever a debate, just nice seeing more than one perspective.
I realize this is the least significant thing in the Nice Guy story, I just don't have anything meaningful to add to the rest of it beyond "Oh god, why?". But I can't help but comment on she "made the odd choice to play a half-orc" kinda hurts my half-orc's feelings. Also, lord, this guy sounds like my brother
Didn't you know? We're apparently supposed to only play tieflings,elves and maybe aasimar. 🤷 Oh and healers only apparently! Seriously,that guy needs some serious self awareness rather than blame the girl who gracefully rejected his stereotypical neckbeard advances.
A GIRL, playing A BRAWNY HALF-ORC. How SCANDALOUS. And when there's a Paladin in the party!? EVERYONE knows Paladins are honourbound to cleanse the taint of Orcish blood from reality as soon as they encounter it.
@@WyntheRogue I assumed the rule was "nothing directly from the player's handbook". Then I realized you meant girls. Thought those guys supported humans so long as they're scantily clad, but I'm generally ignorant of their culture.
Occurs to me, relistening to the Message from the Nice Guy story, that he says that the girl "memorized all the rules right away," making the assumption that she never played before, when it's more likely she had played before and Nice Guy just assumed that gorls never played DnD unless he specifically saw it.
I disagree with this comment on the premise that the children were never in danger. The parents were very situationally illiterate though. Perhaps they should focus a bit more on their murder hobo progeny before they decide to shoot up a school rather than trying to demonize people’s hobbies.
Poor Martha! She probably just wanted to have fun at the table and find some new friends. Maybe she realized that OP was a bit shy, so she was extra nice to him. And he interpreted that as interest beyond just friendship! I've been in this predicament a few times myself: If you have a man with low self-esteem you can try being nice to him at the risk of him falling in love with you and making things awkward, or you try to keep him at a distance only to reinforce his low self-esteem even more.
Remember though that it's not our job to build up their self-esteem. As nice as it is to feel like we're brightening up someone's day, they're only going to get attatched to you and base all of their sense of self around what would make _you_ "happy". It's very unhealthy. Be cordial. We both know that you can't force someone to not fall in love with you BUT we can choose how we respond. I respond with a 10-foot pole. They'll move on eventually and maybe self-reflect on what makes them special. That in turn is gonna bring them a level of confidence they never knew they had, but definitely needed.
I get social anxiety, I have it in spades, but holy crap this guy went off the deep end quickly. Assuming motive and getting upset that a girl both feels threatened and isn't interested isn't social anxiety behavior, it's self-entitlement behavior, which is not the same thing at all. Even just the main post from "Nice Guy"(TM) was super creepy. He has no idea what was going on inside that girl's head, and just assumed he knew exactly what she was thinking and planning. Big yikes.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if he was actually suffering from social anxiety, his first reaction to what happened would have been something along the lines of "crap, I screwed that royally, didn't I?", not "SHE'S A PSYCHO WHO MANIPULATED ME FOR HER OWN AMUSEMENT."
Those weird parents would probably expect me to be institutionalized if they think like *two* sets of dice is excessive. Let me just tuck the 25~ sets away then
@@Schweighsr the box is a photobox that you can buy at michaels. I bought a pretty box and some matching color felt and glued the felt to the lid. Multifunctional storage. Thanks Marie Kondo. ~~Although I also want those cool book dice holder and tray~~
I had a moment of catharsis when OP in the first story got up, took their stuff and called out the DM's BS in front of everyone. That's the kind of thing I want to see in these horror stories.
Sooo small detail for the nice guy story that, for me, is a blatant clue of which version is true. He says he asked her if she wanted to stay for the night, while she says he told her she *should* stay for the night and played up outside being risky at this time. But his own story describes her answer as "What do you mean? I live close by." This answer I feel makes no real sense if he just offered her to stay for the night, but seems suddenly much more logical if he formulated it the way she describes it. Soooo yeah, he kinda gave away that he's the one bullshitting here.
@So Mad *Shrug* Don't know, don't care. I have seen enough things happen irl to know that sometimes reality can be freakier than fiction, so I could believe it was real. But real or not, it's at least an entertaining story to hear about.
@So Mad Possibly, but there are men out here who really are just like this. And when I see videos about them and the way they behave, they genuinely don't seem real. This guy isn't even the worst of it, not by a long shot.
@So Mad I honestly have no idea what the heck you're talking about. This story has no ending, letting alone a "and then everyone clapped" type ending. And its whole point is that you got two opposite points of view, so doesn't sound to me like a story where everything fits.
I've never understood the whole "friendzone bad." Martha sounds like a lovely friend, i would be pretty happy if I had a friend like her. Friendship is great, and true friends are rare. Dude could have had a fantastic life long friend but somehow that was a bad thing? Dude. She doesn't want to stay.
I once played a fighter, who through my choice of abilities and magic items had a really really crazy good charisma, like +18 for diplomacy and intimidation, at one point we got teleported into some castle, and immediately the guards swarmed on us, we were like level 16 at this point so they weren't a threat, but my good aligned fighter decided he didn't want to fight them, so I rolled like 12+18 for a total of 30 and explained "hold on, please let us explain, we were teleported here without warning, we don't even know where we are, if you could just escort us out we'll leave immediately", so naturally the guards yell "SHUT YOUR MOUTH, DUMBASS!", then surrounding me all with their spears at my character's neck. The Cleric then rolls, like a 7+3 for a 10, and she basically says "uhh yeah, what he said" gesturing to my character, at which point the guards of course drop their weapons and get on their knees, begging forgiveness for the terrible misunderstanding. I asked the DM "what the hell? I rolled three times better, and the guards acted as if I took a swing at them", the DM says this "your character's a fighter, he's good at fighting and nothing else"... what's the point, with some DMs? >_
Exactly. A 25 year old has no reason to interact with 14 year olds, 12 year olds, or 10 year olds unless they are family or the 25 year old is a teacher/coach/etc.
Honestly, I kinda wish “psychopath girl” hadn’t posted her response there. OP already sounds creepy enough as is, but I’m sure in his head all negative responses are now the result of her manipulation, rather than a sign that he really needs to step back and reconsider the situation.
i thought the Nice Guy Story would be in the perspective of a different player at the table. but never expected a post FROM the Mr. Nice Guy. that was a twist i never saw coming
You really had me in the beginnen of the „psycopath“ Story. And then the Voice Starts to Shift and I cant stop thinking oh no….I have Seen where this is going 😅
OMG, i don't know where that DM got that "monks aren't religious"....but that's WRONG....my brain shut off and had to pause the vid for a moment because "What??????"
@@davarrashayde yea like just bc Monk in DND isn’t religious by default, like it isn’t built in the class unlike Cleric or something, it doesn’t mean that a monk can not be religious.
When I started college thirty years ago, I was painfully shy around girls. Maybe all the pop culture references to the “dreaded friend zone” helped me out here, but I knew women were a lot more selective about who they dated than guys are. As someone who never worked up the nerve to ask a girl out in college, I’m impressed Nice Guy agreed to do something to actually be with her outside of the game. Unfortunately, Nice Guy didn’t take his failure as a chance for self reflection on how he misread the situation, made her feel uncomfortable, and how to not make things worse with this group of people. He instead chose to whine on Reddit and thereby, figuratively, step on his own dick.
Intro story: I’m honestly impressed. I didn’t believe that level of cringe was humanly possible to achieve. Let that be a lesson to me, I guess. First story: Wow, what a prick. Here’s a tip for all you DMs out there-if there’s a specific player whom you dislike to the point that you’re going to punish their character for existing, just don’t invite that player to your table! D&D is supposed to be fun, and it’s not fun to play with people you hate. Second story: I feel bad for these kids, honestly. Having a DM like that as their first experience with the game… I could see this destroying any enthusiasm they might have for the hobby. Being hovered over by their judgmental parents for the whole game almost certainly didn’t help either. This game just sounds miserable for everyone involved with it. Third story: Oh my god, poor Martha! All she wanted was to play some D&D, and now some maniac is confessing his undying love for her and calling her a psychopath for saying no! This guy seriously needs to check his ego if he thinks not being in love with him is an actual sign of being mentally disturbed. You aren’t as attractive as you think you are, buddy. Fourth story: You’d think most people would have the self-awareness not to open with “My goal is to use my magic to r@pe people!” Apparently, you’d be wrong. I don’t understand why this creep wasn’t immediately kicked, but I’m glad he didn’t stick around.
on the first story (btw nice of you to not count the intro as "1st story") what if the dm likes torturing people they hate? cause i'll bet thats, if not exactly, then pretty close to what was going on
Once again, that last story makes me go “why don’t these people just find kinksters to roleplay with?” And then I immediately realize that their behavior has probably gotten them banned from those spaces too
26:23 I can only describe my feeling toward moments like this with a DBZA quote. Vegeta: *nose starts bleeding while groaning* Nappa: What's wrong, Vegeta? Vegeta: Just-just an aneurysm from sheer stupidity.
I love the way you talk about falling in love the way you might talk about a status effect in a video game. “Characters with the *Alloromamtic* trait have a 0.03% chance of Falling in *Love* when they talk to a stranger of their preferred gender”
Throughout the "nice guys" story, I felt like... nope, that's not what that means, nope you don't talk to people like that, nope this sounds iffy! So I was very happy to see that there was another side was shown
Okay, so there’s just a whole lot that’s weird in that kid’s table story. Frankly, OP should’ve just left the minute they realized it was a kid’s game. Also, they probably shouldn’t have mythologized the older players the way they did
Yeah, that one seemed weird. Taking it at face value (because stranger things have happened) to assume someone in their mid forties would be playing in the 80s (I'm 44, I would have been a very small child during the early editions) is weird on its own. And even though they make a point to say they're embarrassed they still feel weirdly braggy about beating two kids
Just from the fact that the guy completely misinterpreted basic kindness as FLIRTING and had some weird fantasy of her "teasing" him makes his entire story uncreditable. He made her out to be the villain when she hadn't done a single thing wrong, and constantly described her as more of just an object of his attraction than an actual person who, very obviously, showed no interest in him besides platonic affection. THIS is why girls are scared to be friends with guys. Because of disgusting people like this, who are deluded and try to take advantage of girls.
“True Horror: LARP Addition” This kind of shit is why LARP terrifies me. Especially since some larp games are super prone to attracting creeps (namely Vampire Masquerade).
The nice guy....... 1 session of dnd. A roleplaying game. As a player, Martha fulfilled her part. ONE. SESSION. A HANDFUL of HOURS. and you're "in love"?????
I have a decently flirty larp character, but I always ask ooc if flirting is acceptable before going that route, especially if I don't know the other player that well. Consent, people! Ask for it!
The second the OP of the Psychopath Story called her a "Cute Asian Girl with Beautiful Long Hair" I got the feeling he'd turn out to be an incel wierdo. As for the way he asked her to stay, it kind of reminds of Dennis Reynold's yacht. There are wierd guys outside, she should stay the night. He thought she wouldn't say no, cause of the implication.
I dispute that monk isn’t a religious class. They literally get trained in MONASTERIES, TEMPLES, and SHRINES! All of which are overtly religious settings. Jedi are basically space monks
Jedi...are space monks...For the rest of my life, I am never going to look at another Jedi character and not hear those words echo in my mind. I thank you for service. 🫡
I actually feel a little bad for the Nice Guy in that story. It sounds like a lot of this comes from social incompetence and a lack of understanding of other people. That doesn't forgive the malice shown toward the girl he misread though. If your first reaction is that a person you made uncomfortable is a "psychopath" who "manipulated" you, when you yourself are aware that you're socially awkward, you're seriously missing something important and need to stop feeling like a victim. I hope he can learn from this and grow, though I get the feeling he's probably going to (or already did, most likely) get dunked on mercilessly by the Internet and will reflexively dig himself deeper into a hole. Speaking as someone who is also asexual, btw. I had a couple unrequited romantic feelings in my early years, but I just let them go and now two are happily married with kids and the other is unhappily married with kids. Wouldn't have been able to/wanted to give them the kids they desired, and I actually am very happy where I am now, so turned out for the best I think.
I thought the "nice guy" one was a parody until you mentioned the response. Glad the LARP crew were on the ball about putting the breaks on creeps plans.
You know, if you don’t want someone with the ability to fly each fight you could just say “I’d rather you not have flying.” You don’t need to create bows from the ether.
In the LARP I was in we were quick to shut down cringe behavior, its unwanted and unnecessary. Its just...why ruin the game for others when they wanna have fun? I do hope at some point you give LARP a chance Crispy, you might enjoy it.
17:10 Nice Guy says a girl wanting to play a half-orc is weird. I say she has my attention. Post-story edit: man oh MAN did that dude get progressively creepy. 😬
I love how the creepy OP can't think of any other way to describe the girl he liked other than "hot Asian chick". Real cool how dudes just boil down ladies like this, especially poc.
She doesn't want to stay dude. Also that nice guy story was likes! Then the guy asking for mind spells for a larp story caught me by surprise with a double yikes!
Intro story: As a GM, the way to do that is having your DMPC do some sort of heroic power move or sustained magic whatever to open up the BBEG to player attacks. Things look impossible, the party is low, then this friend the players have grown to love and care about creates an opening for THEM to save the world. It’s not that hard. 1st story: If you don’t like a character, SAY NO. If you can’t say no, you have no business GMing. If you don’t like a player, just don’t invite them / don’t invite them back to your table. You’re not a bad person for not liking someone else but don’t waste everyone’s time pretending you like someone you don’t. And, if others try to pressure you to invite them… maybe pick a different activity than TTRPGs 2nd story: Just walk out. IMHO kids are miserable to play with and the parent is a weirdo. 3rd story: Ahhhh the Nice Guy tone coming out. Martha treated a game like a game and got burned by a guy who pretended to be her friend but decided his pp was all that mattered. I’ve got very few male friends for that reason.
Wow. And I thought I was socially inept. But the "she doesn't wanna stay" dude was the embodiment of nonexistent social skills paired with can't take no for an answer. 😑
regarding flying characters, my old gm (before i moved states) allowed aarakocra but the one time a player actually wanted to play one, he told him outright "okay, but you can't fly." the player asked "why not?", though it was less out of disrespect and more out of genuine confusion. the gm looks him dead in the eyes and says "you got human bones, boy. they're too heavy" we all burst out laughing and "you got human bones, boy" became the default response to a failed check. can't persuade an npc? damn, you got human bones, boy. missed an attack? better do something about those human bones. all in all, it was a funny way to explain why the aarakocra couldn't fly and gave us an in-joke from the get-go
Holy crap once I learned I was invited by some guy to play dnd with just his kids I would’ve been out of there as fast as possible. It’s not worth the shaming.
omg the slow descent in the Nice Guy story had me losing my mind and yelling out loud at the video hahahaha usually we don't see these stories from this point of view! hahaha thanks for the videos!
LARP is generally pretty uncomfortable for a woman. A lot of men think they can grope you and blame it on alcohol they consumed or on the role. Its fun to them. The most bizzare situation (not the most frightening) I had happen to me was when the story expected a bunch od guys to torture me for info, but they obviously didnt know if I would handle the roleplay(it was simply because of my gender ), so they just stood around nervously, while one of them physically held me with his hands, while his thigh was firmly stuck betweeen my legs, tightly touching my private area. While he was discussing what to do with me. So they will hesitate to do pretend pain to you, but it will never occur to them that they are technically mildly sexually assaulting the player. Thats LARP to ya.
Lol, "Message from the Nice Guy" sounds like a great bit of creative writing, I suspect both "characters" are the same person having some fun. It's a bit too extreme to the point of parody, especially with the "psychopath girl" responding
My dm let my tiefling have wings. I didn’t even know tieflings could have wings, but my dm asked me “you want wings?” And of course I was like “I can do that? Fuck yes!” And I got wings. Man they were so broken lmao. DM couldn’t complain though. He was the one who offered
I'm so confused about the no religious monks thing. Like a monks are literally a type of religious person and b in the medieval era which most dnd is set in. Basically everyone was religious. You could play any class and have a religious spin on it from fighter to bard so I'm just confused. Also I love that monk concept
You're confusing sociopath and psychopath but the point stands. Edit: I love how halfway through you started to also realize OP was the creep and changed "his" voice accordingly. That's a nice touch.
i wasn't paying attention to the nice guy story until i was hearing it, somehow missing the title and descriptions. so when i listened and heard the change in voice...... *chef's kiss* masterful
Player: So this is my character. Toxic DM: Approved 😊 Player: Now I’m reminding you I have flight and WILL use it. Toxic DM: Approved 😊 Player: I fly into the air in the encounter Toxic DM: *rains down hellfire and brimstone and anything alike* NO! 😡
It took me a moment to figure out what you meant by "Allos", and I lost it when I figured it out. As someone somewhere on the aro/ace spectrum, it just made me laugh so hard~
Similar story to the first full length one if it's okay to share them here. My first 4th Edition campaign, my best friend finds a local dm (hard to do in Wyoning) and we go to his house. We roll characters (me a Dragonborn fighter defender) and we enter the game. He lived for a collective minute into the game. Dm "fighter, what do you do?" Me: I advance into the frozen cave, weapon out and looking for potential dangers Dm: (looks at his notes, me, asks for my character sheet, laughs) you step through a hole in the ice and fall to your death. Me: ...couldnt I have...seen the hole? Dm: you said you were looking for danger. Not holes. Now rogue! What do you do? My friend the rogue: i... I step...around the hole? Dm: ah! Good! You look down and find a skeleton sealed beneath the ice with a scroll and a magically glowing sword clutched in its hands! ...I sat there for 3 hours while they played the game because the table rule was no rerolled or new characters. Turns out a year later when I asked my friend what the fluff happened, that the dm didnt like me because I didnt like the Watchmen movie when we were making characters. So he killed me. Nothing against my friend, we were both awkward high school kids, but this dm was one of the worst I'd ever had. Sorry for the long comment Crispy. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
The vast majority of psychopaths and Sociopaths are just normal people by the way. I know the nice guy was just saying she was one because he was hurt, but I still feel like I needed to clarify that.
Yeah you're absolutely right, Crispy - a good LARP should have decent safeguarding policies for all players, and that includes getting rid of people like that as soon as possible. That dude was a walking red flag and would not be welcome at any of the big LARP fests I've attended.
A D&D player bringing their own dice? ... have they never heard of a dice goblin? You know, the kind of player who has a collection of _thousands_ of dice? And probably several filing cabinets full of character sheets? They tried to murder, rob, _and cannibalize_ the person they were hired to protect - but sure, the monk's the bad guy because they're a fatalist rather than a sociopath
As a recent Nice Guy just reared his ugly head to fuck with me after months of silence, I find that story incredibly frustrating yet cathartic. Nice work with the slow seep into that creepy voice Crispy.
If it makes the guy in the second story feel any better - the trapdoor probably had nothing at all behind it. Most likely the DM ended the session there because he had no idea what was behind the mysterious trapdoor he'd pulled out of thin air two seconds earlier. And if he had, it probably just would have been more goblins, and another grindingly slow three-hour combat.
My guy shot himself in the foot. I get the awkwardness and falling head over heel and not knowing what to do cause of said awkwardness so that part I'm more sympathetic toward. It's all fine all the way up to movie night. I can imagine how scary it must have been for the girl whether the guy intended it or not. Hope the poor lad learns a bit about social rules from on.
10:51 - watching this with 13 sets of polyhedral dice (two old 6-piece sets, one custom 11-piece set and ten 9-piece sets) lined up in cases in front of my screen...
The type of nice guy incel that acts like they got led on bc a girl they liked was nice to them is a big reason why a lot of women would rather pass up on compliments and being friendly to guys they don't know too well. Also yeah pretty telling that he thought she's the best thing since sliced bread but it still revolves around her being a hot asian chick. That's what we call having a fetish, not being in love.
Ugh...hearing about the favoritism (or pointed attacks on characters) reminded me of a campaign i was in at one point... The cast was as follows , The DM (one of our guy family friends), Myself (at the time about 20 fem), my mom, my brothers (one 2 years older than me the other 8 years younger0, and my older brother's girlfriend (about my age). The sessions leading up to the final session where everyone "noped" out of the campaign and were just done with it had already shown clear signs of favoritism...DM would always ensure caster characters found SOMETHING that they could use or that would benefit them in the loot, but the melee classes were lucky if they found a few copper coins...the reason I bring this up is that the casters would be given wands or magical staves or robes and such while the melee classes essentially got nothing...fortunately myself and my mom who were both arcane casters, as well as the cleric player in the group would just put it in the party loot and when we got to a town/city we would sell it to help update the melee character's gear and such to help the party as a whole...even though the DM always tried to make it even HARDER for anyone to fond someone who could work on the melee player's gear or make anything for them...and that wasn't even the least of it...all enemies would have INSANE high ACs in regards to physical attacks and could hit like a TRUCK...but their magic resistance was essentially non existent, also they seemed to have weapons that could essentially ignore our melee player's AC, but when looting OBVIOUSLY no one found said weapons... Now that was bad enough, but the DM also -loved- his puzzles...we ran into well over 5 times the number of puzzles than we ran into any kind of actual combat...About half of the party was playing characters with fairly low intelligence...the 2 arcane casters and the bard/rogue esque fighter of the group being the exceptions...(cleric was VERY wisdom based not int)...most of the puzzles we came across were magical in some way...so the 2 arcane casters (myself and mom) were the main two solving the puzzles. The rest of the party was fine with it as it wasn't something that their characters were good at...but the DM started to get angry that it was essentially just the two of us solving the puzzles. The final session this came to a nasty head and nuked the campaign...in part because he would always have a set way that he wanted each puzzle answered...if it wasn't his "Only answer" for it, then we would get hit or fail the puzzle and take some kind of damage somehow...one puzzle room was something that everyone tried to do something to get across as we were all stuck there...the room had sealed itself after we entered, the walls were smooth carved bricklike stone same as the floor though we could see the other side of the room was the same, there was a leaver on the other side of the room but not one on our side. In the middle dividing the room into the two sections was a pool of lava...judging the distance the fighter could on a 15+ roll with a good running start (which he had room for) could nearly clear, he only needed about another 2 to 3 feet to get all the way across...just to be safe we checked for traps by throwing items across, casting detect magic and numerous other things, we found through these tests that the walls had enchantments so that you couldn't use something like spider climb to get across (but no other magic to be found), we also tried making a lot of water and dousing the lava...but the "cooled" lava only stayed in it's rocklike state for a second at best before returning to it's molten state...after all these tests our fighter mentioned above (and my little brother's character) decided to pole-vault across the lava lake to the other side to get to the lever to hopefully let the rest of us get across...( there was no writing or any kind of clues or anything so we were running with what we had.) Fighter rolled and got a nat 20 on his roll...in our house rules that the DM gave us a nat 20 makes the roll be a 30 plus whatever you're adding to it...with all of his things added in he had like a 52 if memory serves after adding the running start and his jump to the roll...the DM then calmly in a flat voice says "Once your character gets to where they are at the half way point over the lava they fall into the lava pool. Nothing is left. Roll a new character." we all looked at him and i asked "What so he hit an invisible wall??" to which the DM replied "Yes" rather smugly...it was at that point that everyone mentioned we had cast detect magic and that he hadn't said that there was any kind of wall there to which he said "You just weren't able to see it" and when it was pointed out that other things had flown through it and clattered to the ground on the other side he just smiled and in the same smug tone he said "Well you'll have to figure it out."...Eventually everyone gave up and started ignoring him, my little brother after experiencing his first character death and for a BS reason went to play COD in his room because he was too frustrated to build another character. Once the DM couldn't take being ignored anymore he finally said we could leave the way we came in even though it HAD been sealed before then...we all weren't too happy with him but continued on and hoped that he learned his lesson...those hopes were shattered quickly...The next "sealed puzzle room" we wound up walking into was in a mausoleum/crypt, inside this ornate crypt was a Exquisite high-elven styled ball room, with many noblemen and women with masks and long pointy ears and fine delicate features dancing to the moonlight sonata...After talking with the NPCs we find out that they have been stuck here for well over 1billion years...everyone's trying to figure out what we need to do to get out of here, and we are told by the NPCs that there's no way out, they tried everything they could think of, they never got hungry or thirsty here, but they also couldn't stop dancing either. It didn't take long before my mom and I to say what needed to be said to stop the event...though to be honest we stumbled upon the answer accidentally (i realized it was the answer due to the way that the DM reacted to us saying it.) The reason we said it was because as soon as we went into that crypt he started playing the moonlight sonata on repeat on the phone he was using for ambient sounds and such...both my mother and I had said "I wish the moonlight sonata would end." which was the answer, but he hyper focused on everyone else wanting someone else to find the answer...the rest of the party was arguing and being loud and all as he had turned the music up to drown out mom and I saying the right answer, all the noise was giving me a headache and had already given mom a migraine. So finally i wrote down on a piece of paper and handed it to him that had written on it 'My character says loudly and clearly "I wish the moonlight sonata would end." ' to which he looked at the paper and after reading it looked at me and said "You have to SAY it." being all smug at which point i blew up and told him that mom and I had both said it at least 5 times and he was too busy blatantly ignoring us because he didn't want us solving the puzzles to actually listen. at which point my older brother turned off the music himself and grabbed the paper, after reading it he even said, "Yeah, dude even i heard them saying it over and over...and I was being loud myself and not seated next to them, you're right next to them, there's no way you wouldn't hear them unless you were intentionally ignoring them." My mom butted in and said that she really didn't care anymore after the BS way that little brother's character was killed off to the way that the DM was ignoring us it was obvious that unless things went exactly as DM wanted it the game wasn't going to go anywhere and as such was no longer any fun and she had a migraine and so was going to bed. Everyone agreed that the fun that was there originally had all been sucked out of it and we never played that campaign again... TLDR: DM gets super controlling, favors casters till they annoy him by easily solving his puzzles, at which point DM uses BS methods to kill off melee party members and blatantly ignores casters in any puzzles even when they give correct answers, while also not allowing for any "creative" or otherwise answers that he didn't have scripted for the puzzles.
honestly the idea that someone irl would recognize someone else posted an rpghorrorstory is mortifying. like. having two people from the same group have two different whole accounts is so… awkward 2 my brain
The second Crispy’s voice turned at “beautiful Asian” I knew we were listening to the villain’s narration.
I like how Crispy starts out the "Nice Guy" story speaking normally, then gradually shifts to his "That Guy" voice as it becomes obvious who the real psychopath is. That's some quality role-playing, right there. :D
Makes me want to be playing at his table.
Came to the comments to say the same thing
Ya gotta admit, didn't knew he was reading the post of a nice guy till the voice change lol
Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.
I was literally about to comment about that 🤣
imagine if someone looked at your grill and said "I knew you were into barbequing, but I didn't think you'd be THAT into it"
"I knew you were into sports but not into it enough to OWN A BALL."
The nice guy one hurts. My dude. A woman can be kind and friendly without it meaning she wants you. I know you're socially awkward, but you can't just go and "fall in love" with every pretty female who's nice to you. This is one of the big things that scares us lady types out of actively participating with the nerdy communities we're technical a part of or are interested in joining.
A message for everyone really.
I get what you are saying and its the proper way to see things.
Anyhow, as someone who was socially awkward, I feel like I have to break a lance on behalf of socially awkward guys. It's not like you choose who you fall in love with and to me it really isn't surprising that someone who is socially not very competent gets a crush on a girl who treats him decently. I have experienced this in my youth. I was the nerdy outcast who got bullied by all the cool kids and who got ridiculed and exposed whenever someone found out which girl he liked. You better bet that this kind of guy grows very attached to a girl who treats him decently or even with some affection for once. And I really can't see that what that guy did that was so terrible and unforgiveable that he should be put down and judged for all the Internet to see - especially since the presentation was already not neutral and the girl's take was not presented. All I can see is someone who is hurt, seeks comfort and seeks to cope with rejection in some way.
It's not like I give much credence to his idea that this girl is a psychopath or whatever - sounds to me rather like some rationalization to deal with his hurt. But "You should stay for the night" is still a suggestion and not a decision or obligation. Yeah, it's not a very elegant or pleasing way to show affection but he tried and I don't see him doing anything with ill intent. So, who am I to judge?
I had to slowly remove myself from a game I really liked because a guy I genuinely liked as a friend had clearly become obsessed with me to the point it was damaging his marriage. I just slowly showed up less and less and eventually stepped away leaving my gaming group because I cared too much about this guy as a friend to watch him destroy his relationship with a woman I also considered a good friend. I removed myself from their lives and occasionally say hi to them or like a picture of their kids. They have two adorable kids now, I don't regret what I did, but it really sucked I needed to do it.
Typically, the reason why a lot of guys like him don't understand this fact is that most people in their day-to-day lives don't show them even basic courtesy. So when someone they find attractive is very friendly in every interaction it's overwhelming.
Not saying that's always the case, but it seems to fit the bill for that story specifically. Hope he gets help so he can straighten himself out and avoid getting himself and others into situations like that.
Gonna add in that no, just because the barista smiled at you and knows your order, it does not mean she is your twu luv. Customer service jobs force us to be nice and friendly.
That also goes from the nice comic book employee or game store employee that shows you around or helps you find your product.
“I think it’s weird to [fall in love] this fast.”
It is because it is not love, it’s lust. Incel was obsessed with having a cute asian girlfriend and sad when she refused.
@@rynowatcher Honestly that's one of his earliest red flags. It tastes bitterly like nice guy sexism, condescension disguised as a compliment. In other words it's just a reflavored "Wow I can't believe I found a girl that ACTUALLY likes -geeky hobby- and not just FAKING it for ATTENTION and SIMPS!"
Probably the first girl to ever show him any attention....and he asks her to "sleep with him" the second ti e they've even met. L. O. L.
@@dantauche7917 "oh but sex is the furthest thing from his mind, he just wanted her to stay safe, but if she initiated it of course he wouldnt outright reject her..." and blah blah blabbity blah
we all know thats exactly how he'd say it if he could lol
@@mrroboshadow slight little nitpick you should probably replace he with I since it's a quotation marks and I'm assuming you're impersonating the op
Man I sound like a 🤓
@@dantauche7917 Yeah I'd say that's it, she was nice to him like a normal amount and that set his incel brain off into thinking she must be interested.
Ok class, repeat after me:
Being nice does not mean flirting.
Being nice does not make someone obligated to spend time with you.
Being nice does not mean that you are entitled to their whole being.
Being nice is a common courtesy. Not a sign that they want to get into your bed and just because you are attracted to someone it does not mean that they are attracted to you.
Got it?
…I’ll be back for the next time this happens (because some people never learn)
hell in many situations(like doing a group activity that requires you to be t least civil ) being nice doesn't even mean they like you platonically.
@@ursulajoni15 exactly
@@ursulajoni15 The fact that so many of these niceguys are so crazy as to think that basic politeness is a sign of romance makes me think that their behavior is so bad that most people just can't tolerate them.
I like reminding myself of this
Not "that guy/girl"
But I do get crushes easily and try very
hard not to be a creep/weirdo about it.
That Nice Guy story is eye-opening to how their minds work.
And then the "psychopath girl's" version of events. It's so incredibly rare we get both sides of the story like this
Its funny how her version is basically exactly what I assumed was the case based on his version.
Agreed. I liked seeing both sides instead of just getting an obvious victim.
@@ArcCaravan it was pretty obvious who the victim from the moment the "nice guy" started making creepy comments, which is a few sentences in
The girl's version was not even necessary. The nice guy's version already had all the signs:
1) Asking a girl to stay the night after getting her alone. and then "pouring out all his feelings" dramatically, instead of just telling her "Hey, I like you, wanna go on a date?" in a more neutral setting.
2) Constantly projecting inner feelings and knowledge to her, like how she *must* have known how he felt.
@@haski002 I mostly compare this to other stories where there's only one side. Not saying it was ever a debate, just nice seeing more than one perspective.
I realize this is the least significant thing in the Nice Guy story, I just don't have anything meaningful to add to the rest of it beyond "Oh god, why?". But I can't help but comment on she "made the odd choice to play a half-orc" kinda hurts my half-orc's feelings.
Also, lord, this guy sounds like my brother
Didn't you know? We're apparently supposed to only play tieflings,elves and maybe aasimar. 🤷 Oh and healers only apparently! Seriously,that guy needs some serious self awareness rather than blame the girl who gracefully rejected his stereotypical neckbeard advances.
A GIRL, playing A BRAWNY HALF-ORC. How SCANDALOUS. And when there's a Paladin in the party!? EVERYONE knows Paladins are honourbound to cleanse the taint of Orcish blood from reality as soon as they encounter it.
@@WyntheRogue I assumed the rule was "nothing directly from the player's handbook". Then I realized you meant girls. Thought those guys supported humans so long as they're scantily clad, but I'm generally ignorant of their culture.
Occurs to me, relistening to the Message from the Nice Guy story, that he says that the girl "memorized all the rules right away," making the assumption that she never played before, when it's more likely she had played before and Nice Guy just assumed that gorls never played DnD unless he specifically saw it.
Wow, imagine inviting a random adult to come play with your middle school kids?? Some parents are just oblivious to risky situations... 😰
I wonder if not telling him that he would play with kid was his way of making sure he wasn't here because of that.
to be fair the adults were right next.
I sounds like the adults wanted a free babysitter.
@@grecia3146 kinda what I was thinking
I disagree with this comment on the premise that the children were never in danger. The parents were very situationally illiterate though. Perhaps they should focus a bit more on their murder hobo progeny before they decide to shoot up a school rather than trying to demonize people’s hobbies.
Poor Martha!
She probably just wanted to have fun at the table and find some new friends. Maybe she realized that OP was a bit shy, so she was extra nice to him. And he interpreted that as interest beyond just friendship!
I've been in this predicament a few times myself: If you have a man with low self-esteem you can try being nice to him at the risk of him falling in love with you and making things awkward, or you try to keep him at a distance only to reinforce his low self-esteem even more.
Remember though that it's not our job to build up their self-esteem. As nice as it is to feel like we're brightening up someone's day, they're only going to get attatched to you and base all of their sense of self around what would make _you_ "happy". It's very unhealthy. Be cordial. We both know that you can't force someone to not fall in love with you BUT we can choose how we respond. I respond with a 10-foot pole. They'll move on eventually and maybe self-reflect on what makes them special. That in turn is gonna bring them a level of confidence they never knew they had, but definitely needed.
@@gabbygabs9220 No, but it is our job to build yours.
@@amosfamous7327 bitter
@@ashleycreps9282 pot, meet kettle
@@amosfamous7327 No it's not. Get over yourself.
I get social anxiety, I have it in spades, but holy crap this guy went off the deep end quickly. Assuming motive and getting upset that a girl both feels threatened and isn't interested isn't social anxiety behavior, it's self-entitlement behavior, which is not the same thing at all. Even just the main post from "Nice Guy"(TM) was super creepy. He has no idea what was going on inside that girl's head, and just assumed he knew exactly what she was thinking and planning. Big yikes.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if he was actually suffering from social anxiety, his first reaction to what happened would have been something along the lines of "crap, I screwed that royally, didn't I?", not "SHE'S A PSYCHO WHO MANIPULATED ME FOR HER OWN AMUSEMENT."
The first red flag from the Nice Guy, for me, was "This takes a lot of courage to admit, but..."
I was like, "Huh. Weird brag but OK."
Those weird parents would probably expect me to be institutionalized if they think like *two* sets of dice is excessive. Let me just tuck the 25~ sets away then
I wonder what they would think of my gemstone dice sets...
I don’t have an addiction…
(Hides her self-made dice box full of dice away)
@@starbird3939 Is it bigger than a gallon jar? Asking for a friend.
Gods, what would they have to say about fancy Dice Boxes.
@@Schweighsr the box is a photobox that you can buy at michaels. I bought a pretty box and some matching color felt and glued the felt to the lid. Multifunctional storage. Thanks Marie Kondo.
~~Although I also want those cool book dice holder and tray~~
I had a moment of catharsis when OP in the first story got up, took their stuff and called out the DM's BS in front of everyone.
That's the kind of thing I want to see in these horror stories.
Sooo small detail for the nice guy story that, for me, is a blatant clue of which version is true. He says he asked her if she wanted to stay for the night, while she says he told her she *should* stay for the night and played up outside being risky at this time. But his own story describes her answer as "What do you mean? I live close by." This answer I feel makes no real sense if he just offered her to stay for the night, but seems suddenly much more logical if he formulated it the way she describes it. Soooo yeah, he kinda gave away that he's the one bullshitting here.
@So Mad *Shrug* Don't know, don't care. I have seen enough things happen irl to know that sometimes reality can be freakier than fiction, so I could believe it was real. But real or not, it's at least an entertaining story to hear about.
@So Mad Possibly, but there are men out here who really are just like this. And when I see videos about them and the way they behave, they genuinely don't seem real. This guy isn't even the worst of it, not by a long shot.
@So Mad I honestly have no idea what the heck you're talking about. This story has no ending, letting alone a "and then everyone clapped" type ending. And its whole point is that you got two opposite points of view, so doesn't sound to me like a story where everything fits.
I've never understood the whole "friendzone bad." Martha sounds like a lovely friend, i would be pretty happy if I had a friend like her. Friendship is great, and true friends are rare. Dude could have had a fantastic life long friend but somehow that was a bad thing?
Dude. She doesn't want to stay.
I am presently friend zoned and it's a pretty great place to be. I can find someone else and I have an amazing friend I care about.
I once played a fighter, who through my choice of abilities and magic items had a really really crazy good charisma, like +18 for diplomacy and intimidation, at one point we got teleported into some castle, and immediately the guards swarmed on us, we were like level 16 at this point so they weren't a threat, but my good aligned fighter decided he didn't want to fight them, so I rolled like 12+18 for a total of 30 and explained "hold on, please let us explain, we were teleported here without warning, we don't even know where we are, if you could just escort us out we'll leave immediately", so naturally the guards yell "SHUT YOUR MOUTH, DUMBASS!", then surrounding me all with their spears at my character's neck. The Cleric then rolls, like a 7+3 for a 10, and she basically says "uhh yeah, what he said" gesturing to my character, at which point the guards of course drop their weapons and get on their knees, begging forgiveness for the terrible misunderstanding.
I asked the DM "what the hell? I rolled three times better, and the guards acted as if I took a swing at them", the DM says this "your character's a fighter, he's good at fighting and nothing else"... what's the point, with some DMs? >_
Bruh, at this point you could just become a murderhobo
That sounds like a mix of favoritism and discrimination
@@thatonewitch Some people just don't accept that fighters can be anything other than meat shield brutes xD
“Back to the Kids Table”
Yeeeeaaah, don’t invite adults to a game squarely for kids. Adult and kids often have different ideas of a game.
Sounded like the old man assumed all DnD players are the same regardless of age.
Exactly. A 25 year old has no reason to interact with 14 year olds, 12 year olds, or 10 year olds unless they are family or the 25 year old is a teacher/coach/etc.
The entire point of a barbarian is to Rage. The fact they started botching when Raging is exactly what is supposed to happen.
Honestly, I kinda wish “psychopath girl” hadn’t posted her response there. OP already sounds creepy enough as is, but I’m sure in his head all negative responses are now the result of her manipulation, rather than a sign that he really needs to step back and reconsider the situation.
Gotta say it's interesting to see a Nice Guyᵀᴹ from the point of view of the Nice Guy
Indeed. Especially when we also get the target's view as well. Usually it's just one perspective we get with possible comments from a third party.
i thought the Nice Guy Story would be in the perspective of a different player at the table. but never expected a post FROM the Mr. Nice Guy. that was a twist i never saw coming
Nice guy obviously cleaned up his post to make himself look good. And STILL came off as kinda creepy.
You really had me in the beginnen of the „psycopath“ Story. And then the Voice Starts to Shift and I cant stop thinking oh no….I have Seen where this is going 😅
I forget who said it but to paraphrase, "as a DM it's easy to kill your players. It's hard to _almost_ kill your players."
“Monk can’t be religious!!”
Chrispy.exe has stopped working 😂😂
OMG, i don't know where that DM got that "monks aren't religious"....but that's WRONG....my brain shut off and had to pause the vid for a moment because "What??????"
@@davarrashayde yea like just bc Monk in DND isn’t religious by default, like it isn’t built in the class unlike Cleric or something, it doesn’t mean that a monk can not be religious.
When I started college thirty years ago, I was painfully shy around girls. Maybe all the pop culture references to the “dreaded friend zone” helped me out here, but I knew women were a lot more selective about who they dated than guys are.
As someone who never worked up the nerve to ask a girl out in college, I’m impressed Nice Guy agreed to do something to actually be with her outside of the game. Unfortunately, Nice Guy didn’t take his failure as a chance for self reflection on how he misread the situation, made her feel uncomfortable, and how to not make things worse with this group of people. He instead chose to whine on Reddit and thereby, figuratively, step on his own dick.
I have never felt so uncomfortable with one of these stories than with that nice guy one, I feel like I need a shower.
I feel there's worse. Like a story about a LARP organizer condemning a player speaking out against some scummy players.
@@ArcCaravan Oh there is most definitely worse, but it made me physically uncomfortable.
Intro story: I’m honestly impressed. I didn’t believe that level of cringe was humanly possible to achieve. Let that be a lesson to me, I guess.
First story: Wow, what a prick. Here’s a tip for all you DMs out there-if there’s a specific player whom you dislike to the point that you’re going to punish their character for existing, just don’t invite that player to your table! D&D is supposed to be fun, and it’s not fun to play with people you hate.
Second story: I feel bad for these kids, honestly. Having a DM like that as their first experience with the game… I could see this destroying any enthusiasm they might have for the hobby. Being hovered over by their judgmental parents for the whole game almost certainly didn’t help either. This game just sounds miserable for everyone involved with it.
Third story: Oh my god, poor Martha! All she wanted was to play some D&D, and now some maniac is confessing his undying love for her and calling her a psychopath for saying no! This guy seriously needs to check his ego if he thinks not being in love with him is an actual sign of being mentally disturbed. You aren’t as attractive as you think you are, buddy.
Fourth story: You’d think most people would have the self-awareness not to open with “My goal is to use my magic to r@pe people!” Apparently, you’d be wrong. I don’t understand why this creep wasn’t immediately kicked, but I’m glad he didn’t stick around.
on the first story (btw nice of you to not count the intro as "1st story")
what if the dm likes torturing people they hate? cause i'll bet thats, if not exactly, then pretty close to what was going on
Once again, that last story makes me go “why don’t these people just find kinksters to roleplay with?” And then I immediately realize that their behavior has probably gotten them banned from those spaces too
26:23 I can only describe my feeling toward moments like this with a DBZA quote.
Vegeta: *nose starts bleeding while groaning*
Nappa: What's wrong, Vegeta?
Vegeta: Just-just an aneurysm from sheer stupidity.
Wow... Didn't think you were that stupid, Vegeta.
@@An_Actual_Rat *insert soul rending scream of rage*
Nappa: Huh. Didn't realize you were that stupid, Vegeta.
Nappa: I am hilarious and you will quote everything I say.
I love the way you talk about falling in love the way you might talk about a status effect in a video game. “Characters with the *Alloromamtic* trait have a 0.03% chance of Falling in *Love* when they talk to a stranger of their preferred gender”
Throughout the "nice guys" story, I felt like... nope, that's not what that means, nope you don't talk to people like that, nope this sounds iffy! So I was very happy to see that there was another side was shown
The nice guy story killed me with the transition
I was legitimately shocked at the perspective change from OP's target.
Man, that kid's table story, those guys are cringe.
Not as bad as the old man.
My “12yr old murder hobo” experience was a guy just like this kid but he was just over fifty. That’s shameful.
Okay, so there’s just a whole lot that’s weird in that kid’s table story. Frankly, OP should’ve just left the minute they realized it was a kid’s game. Also, they probably shouldn’t have mythologized the older players the way they did
Yeah, that one seemed weird. Taking it at face value (because stranger things have happened) to assume someone in their mid forties would be playing in the 80s (I'm 44, I would have been a very small child during the early editions) is weird on its own.
And even though they make a point to say they're embarrassed they still feel weirdly braggy about beating two kids
When he said "it was a classic setup" I expected the classic bar opening
Bodyguards out on a mission actually sounds creative
Just from the fact that the guy completely misinterpreted basic kindness as FLIRTING and had some weird fantasy of her "teasing" him makes his entire story uncreditable.
He made her out to be the villain when she hadn't done a single thing wrong, and constantly described her as more of just an object of his attraction than an actual person who, very obviously, showed no interest in him besides platonic affection.
THIS is why girls are scared to be friends with guys. Because of disgusting people like this, who are deluded and try to take advantage of girls.
“True Horror: LARP Addition”
This kind of shit is why LARP terrifies me.
Especially since some larp games are super prone to attracting creeps (namely Vampire Masquerade).
I weirdly feel more terrified by investing so much in props and costumes only for it to be for nothing. Possibly for @%>/ like this guy showing up.
Yeah in the psychopathic girl story i picked up on the “Nice guy” vibes of OP i was very sceptical well before her reply
The nice guy....... 1 session of dnd. A roleplaying game. As a player, Martha fulfilled her part. ONE. SESSION. A HANDFUL of HOURS. and you're "in love"?????
I have a decently flirty larp character, but I always ask ooc if flirting is acceptable before going that route, especially if I don't know the other player that well. Consent, people! Ask for it!
Dudeeeeeee the voice shift, I frickin love that. rSlash does the same thing when op is the problem. It's great
The second the OP of the Psychopath Story called her a "Cute Asian Girl with Beautiful Long Hair" I got the feeling he'd turn out to be an incel wierdo.
As for the way he asked her to stay, it kind of reminds of Dennis Reynold's yacht. There are wierd guys outside, she should stay the night. He thought she wouldn't say no, cause of the implication.
I want to be the DM that larps an encounter just to see Crispy's visible expression 🤣
I love hearing the slow shift from regular voice to the nasally annoyed voice as he continues reading in story 3 XD
The Voice change to the Nice Guy voice 🤣 you're amazing!
I dispute that monk isn’t a religious class. They literally get trained in MONASTERIES, TEMPLES, and SHRINES! All of which are overtly religious settings. Jedi are basically space monks
Jedi...are space monks...For the rest of my life, I am never going to look at another Jedi character and not hear those words echo in my mind. I thank you for service. 🫡
I actually feel a little bad for the Nice Guy in that story. It sounds like a lot of this comes from social incompetence and a lack of understanding of other people. That doesn't forgive the malice shown toward the girl he misread though. If your first reaction is that a person you made uncomfortable is a "psychopath" who "manipulated" you, when you yourself are aware that you're socially awkward, you're seriously missing something important and need to stop feeling like a victim. I hope he can learn from this and grow, though I get the feeling he's probably going to (or already did, most likely) get dunked on mercilessly by the Internet and will reflexively dig himself deeper into a hole.
Speaking as someone who is also asexual, btw. I had a couple unrequited romantic feelings in my early years, but I just let them go and now two are happily married with kids and the other is unhappily married with kids. Wouldn't have been able to/wanted to give them the kids they desired, and I actually am very happy where I am now, so turned out for the best I think.
I love how you can hear the voice shift once we all realised who the real psycho is.
I thought the "nice guy" one was a parody until you mentioned the response.
Glad the LARP crew were on the ball about putting the breaks on creeps plans.
You know, if you don’t want someone with the ability to fly each fight you could just say “I’d rather you not have flying.” You don’t need to create bows from the ether.
In the LARP I was in we were quick to shut down cringe behavior, its unwanted and unnecessary. Its just...why ruin the game for others when they wanna have fun?
I do hope at some point you give LARP a chance Crispy, you might enjoy it.
17:10
Nice Guy says a girl wanting to play a half-orc is weird.
I say she has my attention.
Post-story edit: man oh MAN did that dude get progressively creepy. 😬
I wish I could find and read "psychopath girls" original post
I love how the creepy OP can't think of any other way to describe the girl he liked other than "hot Asian chick". Real cool how dudes just boil down ladies like this, especially poc.
And then all the dudebros will get pissy and call you a snowflake for being offended with their blatant objectification of woman.
She doesn't want to stay dude. Also that nice guy story was likes! Then the guy asking for mind spells for a larp story caught me by surprise with a double yikes!
Intro story: As a GM, the way to do that is having your DMPC do some sort of heroic power move or sustained magic whatever to open up the BBEG to player attacks. Things look impossible, the party is low, then this friend the players have grown to love and care about creates an opening for THEM to save the world. It’s not that hard.
1st story: If you don’t like a character, SAY NO. If you can’t say no, you have no business GMing. If you don’t like a player, just don’t invite them / don’t invite them back to your table. You’re not a bad person for not liking someone else but don’t waste everyone’s time pretending you like someone you don’t. And, if others try to pressure you to invite them… maybe pick a different activity than TTRPGs
2nd story: Just walk out. IMHO kids are miserable to play with and the parent is a weirdo.
3rd story: Ahhhh the Nice Guy tone coming out. Martha treated a game like a game and got burned by a guy who pretended to be her friend but decided his pp was all that mattered. I’ve got very few male friends for that reason.
16:45 i was already feeling sus when he went on abt “psychopaths” but i did not expect it to get that bad that fast
Omg you could hear things devolve over time in the nice guy story. Good job on the voice work crispy.
Wow. And I thought I was socially inept. But the "she doesn't wanna stay" dude was the embodiment of nonexistent social skills paired with can't take no for an answer. 😑
ugh she doesn't want to stay dude. Also wow the horror dawning on me as I found out the OP was "That guy" was really crazy for me lol.
regarding flying characters, my old gm (before i moved states) allowed aarakocra but the one time a player actually wanted to play one, he told him outright "okay, but you can't fly."
the player asked "why not?", though it was less out of disrespect and more out of genuine confusion.
the gm looks him dead in the eyes and says "you got human bones, boy. they're too heavy"
we all burst out laughing and "you got human bones, boy" became the default response to a failed check. can't persuade an npc? damn, you got human bones, boy. missed an attack? better do something about those human bones. all in all, it was a funny way to explain why the aarakocra couldn't fly and gave us an in-joke from the get-go
Honestly, limitations on flying characters give me an idea for an Aaracockra whose wings were clipped as a child, rendering them unable to fly.
Holy crap once I learned I was invited by some guy to play dnd with just his kids I would’ve been out of there as fast as possible. It’s not worth the shaming.
omg the slow descent in the Nice Guy story had me losing my mind and yelling out loud at the video hahahaha usually we don't see these stories from this point of view! hahaha thanks for the videos!
You know that feeling when you're reading something, and slowly but surely you realize...that the narrator is the bad guy?
That nice guy one went real bad real fucking fast. How he managed to write that and not see himself as the bad guy is anyone's guess.
LARP is generally pretty uncomfortable for a woman. A lot of men think they can grope you and blame it on alcohol they consumed or on the role. Its fun to them. The most bizzare situation (not the most frightening) I had happen to me was when the story expected a bunch od guys to torture me for info, but they obviously didnt know if I would handle the roleplay(it was simply because of my gender ), so they just stood around nervously, while one of them physically held me with his hands, while his thigh was firmly stuck betweeen my legs, tightly touching my private area. While he was discussing what to do with me. So they will hesitate to do pretend pain to you, but it will never occur to them that they are technically mildly sexually assaulting the player. Thats LARP to ya.
Lol, "Message from the Nice Guy" sounds like a great bit of creative writing, I suspect both "characters" are the same person having some fun. It's a bit too extreme to the point of parody, especially with the "psychopath girl" responding
My dm let my tiefling have wings. I didn’t even know tieflings could have wings, but my dm asked me “you want wings?” And of course I was like “I can do that? Fuck yes!” And I got wings. Man they were so broken lmao. DM couldn’t complain though. He was the one who offered
I'm so confused about the no religious monks thing. Like a monks are literally a type of religious person and b in the medieval era which most dnd is set in. Basically everyone was religious. You could play any class and have a religious spin on it from fighter to bard so I'm just confused. Also I love that monk concept
You're confusing sociopath and psychopath but the point stands.
Edit: I love how halfway through you started to also realize OP was the creep and changed "his" voice accordingly. That's a nice touch.
Neither are legitimate psychological terms anymore anyway.
i wasn't paying attention to the nice guy story until i was hearing it, somehow missing the title and descriptions. so when i listened and heard the change in voice...... *chef's kiss* masterful
Player: So this is my character.
Toxic DM: Approved 😊
Player: Now I’m reminding you I have flight and WILL use it.
Toxic DM: Approved 😊
Player: I fly into the air in the encounter
Toxic DM: *rains down hellfire and brimstone and anything alike* NO! 😡
It took me a moment to figure out what you meant by "Allos", and I lost it when I figured it out. As someone somewhere on the aro/ace spectrum, it just made me laugh so hard~
Yeah. I thought allo was pronounced like it is in the word Allosaurus (but with a more pronounced o vowel), but Crispy pronounces it like ay-low
Similar story to the first full length one if it's okay to share them here.
My first 4th Edition campaign, my best friend finds a local dm (hard to do in Wyoning) and we go to his house. We roll characters (me a Dragonborn fighter defender) and we enter the game. He lived for a collective minute into the game.
Dm "fighter, what do you do?"
Me: I advance into the frozen cave, weapon out and looking for potential dangers
Dm: (looks at his notes, me, asks for my character sheet, laughs) you step through a hole in the ice and fall to your death.
Me: ...couldnt I have...seen the hole?
Dm: you said you were looking for danger. Not holes. Now rogue! What do you do?
My friend the rogue: i... I step...around the hole?
Dm: ah! Good! You look down and find a skeleton sealed beneath the ice with a scroll and a magically glowing sword clutched in its hands!
...I sat there for 3 hours while they played the game because the table rule was no rerolled or new characters. Turns out a year later when I asked my friend what the fluff happened, that the dm didnt like me because I didnt like the Watchmen movie when we were making characters. So he killed me.
Nothing against my friend, we were both awkward high school kids, but this dm was one of the worst I'd ever had. Sorry for the long comment Crispy. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
The vast majority of psychopaths and Sociopaths are just normal people by the way. I know the nice guy was just saying she was one because he was hurt, but I still feel like I needed to clarify that.
Yeah you're absolutely right, Crispy - a good LARP should have decent safeguarding policies for all players, and that includes getting rid of people like that as soon as possible. That dude was a walking red flag and would not be welcome at any of the big LARP fests I've attended.
I always carry a full set of dice in a leather bag for sentimental reasons, had them come in handy in several situations 😊
That nice guy story opened with a red flag with how it talked about mentally ill people tbh.
I would have left the kids game when the DM "hit the reset button".
A D&D player bringing their own dice? ... have they never heard of a dice goblin? You know, the kind of player who has a collection of _thousands_ of dice? And probably several filing cabinets full of character sheets?
They tried to murder, rob, _and cannibalize_ the person they were hired to protect - but sure, the monk's the bad guy because they're a fatalist rather than a sociopath
That first story, freaking YIKES
I feel the need to explain to some of these people that there's a difference between being a hedonist and being a rapist 😮💨😬😒
As a recent Nice Guy just reared his ugly head to fuck with me after months of silence, I find that story incredibly frustrating yet cathartic. Nice work with the slow seep into that creepy voice Crispy.
If it makes the guy in the second story feel any better - the trapdoor probably had nothing at all behind it. Most likely the DM ended the session there because he had no idea what was behind the mysterious trapdoor he'd pulled out of thin air two seconds earlier. And if he had, it probably just would have been more goblins, and another grindingly slow three-hour combat.
So funny, Crispy, sometimes you're falling into bits of talking extremely fast for a short time, like half a sentence or two. Really makes my day. :D
Had to pause halfway through the nice guy story. Your execution is perfect and really made me feel the cringe.
I'd love to hear the girl's post too honestly, it's too bad it didn't get read here
I've yet to play my first game but bingeing videos like this is giving me a great insight into things I need to look out for.
Damn, just thinking about the first story makes me want to pull out the ol' cringe suit.
My guy shot himself in the foot. I get the awkwardness and falling head over heel and not knowing what to do cause of said awkwardness so that part I'm more sympathetic toward. It's all fine all the way up to movie night. I can imagine how scary it must have been for the girl whether the guy intended it or not. Hope the poor lad learns a bit about social rules from on.
10:51 - watching this with 13 sets of polyhedral dice (two old 6-piece sets, one custom 11-piece set and ten 9-piece sets) lined up in cases in front of my screen...
Dude walks into house, realizes it's a bunch of preteens, stays. Yeah, that's on you my guy.
The type of nice guy incel that acts like they got led on bc a girl they liked was nice to them is a big reason why a lot of women would rather pass up on compliments and being friendly to guys they don't know too well. Also yeah pretty telling that he thought she's the best thing since sliced bread but it still revolves around her being a hot asian chick. That's what we call having a fetish, not being in love.
Ugh...hearing about the favoritism (or pointed attacks on characters) reminded me of a campaign i was in at one point... The cast was as follows , The DM (one of our guy family friends), Myself (at the time about 20 fem), my mom, my brothers (one 2 years older than me the other 8 years younger0, and my older brother's girlfriend (about my age).
The sessions leading up to the final session where everyone "noped" out of the campaign and were just done with it had already shown clear signs of favoritism...DM would always ensure caster characters found SOMETHING that they could use or that would benefit them in the loot, but the melee classes were lucky if they found a few copper coins...the reason I bring this up is that the casters would be given wands or magical staves or robes and such while the melee classes essentially got nothing...fortunately myself and my mom who were both arcane casters, as well as the cleric player in the group would just put it in the party loot and when we got to a town/city we would sell it to help update the melee character's gear and such to help the party as a whole...even though the DM always tried to make it even HARDER for anyone to fond someone who could work on the melee player's gear or make anything for them...and that wasn't even the least of it...all enemies would have INSANE high ACs in regards to physical attacks and could hit like a TRUCK...but their magic resistance was essentially non existent, also they seemed to have weapons that could essentially ignore our melee player's AC, but when looting OBVIOUSLY no one found said weapons...
Now that was bad enough, but the DM also -loved- his puzzles...we ran into well over 5 times the number of puzzles than we ran into any kind of actual combat...About half of the party was playing characters with fairly low intelligence...the 2 arcane casters and the bard/rogue esque fighter of the group being the exceptions...(cleric was VERY wisdom based not int)...most of the puzzles we came across were magical in some way...so the 2 arcane casters (myself and mom) were the main two solving the puzzles. The rest of the party was fine with it as it wasn't something that their characters were good at...but the DM started to get angry that it was essentially just the two of us solving the puzzles. The final session this came to a nasty head and nuked the campaign...in part because he would always have a set way that he wanted each puzzle answered...if it wasn't his "Only answer" for it, then we would get hit or fail the puzzle and take some kind of damage somehow...one puzzle room was something that everyone tried to do something to get across as we were all stuck there...the room had sealed itself after we entered, the walls were smooth carved bricklike stone same as the floor though we could see the other side of the room was the same, there was a leaver on the other side of the room but not one on our side. In the middle dividing the room into the two sections was a pool of lava...judging the distance the fighter could on a 15+ roll with a good running start (which he had room for) could nearly clear, he only needed about another 2 to 3 feet to get all the way across...just to be safe we checked for traps by throwing items across, casting detect magic and numerous other things, we found through these tests that the walls had enchantments so that you couldn't use something like spider climb to get across (but no other magic to be found), we also tried making a lot of water and dousing the lava...but the "cooled" lava only stayed in it's rocklike state for a second at best before returning to it's molten state...after all these tests our fighter mentioned above (and my little brother's character) decided to pole-vault across the lava lake to the other side to get to the lever to hopefully let the rest of us get across...( there was no writing or any kind of clues or anything so we were running with what we had.) Fighter rolled and got a nat 20 on his roll...in our house rules that the DM gave us a nat 20 makes the roll be a 30 plus whatever you're adding to it...with all of his things added in he had like a 52 if memory serves after adding the running start and his jump to the roll...the DM then calmly in a flat voice says "Once your character gets to where they are at the half way point over the lava they fall into the lava pool. Nothing is left. Roll a new character." we all looked at him and i asked "What so he hit an invisible wall??" to which the DM replied "Yes" rather smugly...it was at that point that everyone mentioned we had cast detect magic and that he hadn't said that there was any kind of wall there to which he said "You just weren't able to see it" and when it was pointed out that other things had flown through it and clattered to the ground on the other side he just smiled and in the same smug tone he said "Well you'll have to figure it out."...Eventually everyone gave up and started ignoring him, my little brother after experiencing his first character death and for a BS reason went to play COD in his room because he was too frustrated to build another character. Once the DM couldn't take being ignored anymore he finally said we could leave the way we came in even though it HAD been sealed before then...we all weren't too happy with him but continued on and hoped that he learned his lesson...those hopes were shattered quickly...The next "sealed puzzle room" we wound up walking into was in a mausoleum/crypt, inside this ornate crypt was a Exquisite high-elven styled ball room, with many noblemen and women with masks and long pointy ears and fine delicate features dancing to the moonlight sonata...After talking with the NPCs we find out that they have been stuck here for well over 1billion years...everyone's trying to figure out what we need to do to get out of here, and we are told by the NPCs that there's no way out, they tried everything they could think of, they never got hungry or thirsty here, but they also couldn't stop dancing either. It didn't take long before my mom and I to say what needed to be said to stop the event...though to be honest we stumbled upon the answer accidentally (i realized it was the answer due to the way that the DM reacted to us saying it.) The reason we said it was because as soon as we went into that crypt he started playing the moonlight sonata on repeat on the phone he was using for ambient sounds and such...both my mother and I had said "I wish the moonlight sonata would end." which was the answer, but he hyper focused on everyone else wanting someone else to find the answer...the rest of the party was arguing and being loud and all as he had turned the music up to drown out mom and I saying the right answer, all the noise was giving me a headache and had already given mom a migraine. So finally i wrote down on a piece of paper and handed it to him that had written on it 'My character says loudly and clearly "I wish the moonlight sonata would end." ' to which he looked at the paper and after reading it looked at me and said "You have to SAY it." being all smug at which point i blew up and told him that mom and I had both said it at least 5 times and he was too busy blatantly ignoring us because he didn't want us solving the puzzles to actually listen. at which point my older brother turned off the music himself and grabbed the paper, after reading it he even said, "Yeah, dude even i heard them saying it over and over...and I was being loud myself and not seated next to them, you're right next to them, there's no way you wouldn't hear them unless you were intentionally ignoring them." My mom butted in and said that she really didn't care anymore after the BS way that little brother's character was killed off to the way that the DM was ignoring us it was obvious that unless things went exactly as DM wanted it the game wasn't going to go anywhere and as such was no longer any fun and she had a migraine and so was going to bed. Everyone agreed that the fun that was there originally had all been sucked out of it and we never played that campaign again...
TLDR: DM gets super controlling, favors casters till they annoy him by easily solving his puzzles, at which point DM uses BS methods to kill off melee party members and blatantly ignores casters in any puzzles even when they give correct answers, while also not allowing for any "creative" or otherwise answers that he didn't have scripted for the puzzles.
The.... Paladin wanted to kill the cart driver.... Make him reread the class description
Sounds standard for paladins here.
I was like idk man nice guy is sounding suuuuuuuper sussy. Sure enough.
honestly the idea that someone irl would recognize someone else posted an rpghorrorstory is mortifying. like. having two people from the same group have two different whole accounts is so… awkward 2 my brain