This analysis seems off on a few levels.. I paid 67k for full electric seats, blue laser lights, m suspension. Harmon Kardon. You buy this car for the performance aspect without paying a premium for true M car. The x drive is for peace of mind in snow, gravel and wet roads. You’re also underselling the usefulness and utility of the large hatchback. The competitors you mentioned have hideous interiors . Really cheap textures. Regarding the Audi S5, you’re sacrificing reliability. The B58 in the M440i is bullet proof. The Audi S5 engine can’t hold a candle to it. That’s why Toyota chose the B58 for their Supra. THis car in the black or Brooklyn Grey is epic and the grill works for me.. It also adds greater cooling.
Spot on. I was scratching my head through this entire review. Recommending an S5 over the M440i?! Why? Cause you like losing races? Cause you like visiting the mechanic? Cause you like old interiors? Oh you don’t like the grill? That’s ok, you’ll only ever see the BMWs tail lights in an S5 anyways. And I actually like the S5. Strange take by these guys to be sure, but I guess that’s why they say there’s no accounting for taste.
I 100% agree with you, I have the 440i Coupé with every package in Brooklyn grey. The only reason I went with the 440i was for the X-Drive like you. It's a great value M sport car and I still get blown away by its ability to park itself. I have so many people tell me that they love my car. People love the front, I don't know what all the reviewers keep mentioning the grill in a derogatory way, just because it is different.
I just purchased a used 2022 M440i Gran Coupe. And I have to say the comparison with the 440i coupe is kind of silly. And to suggest that the 440 coupe is a better car is even sillier. First the performance is vastly different. Obviously. If someone likes the 440 platform and wants more performance then the M440i is the obvious choice. But the silliest thing is to compare the coupe with a 4 door hatchback. All performance issues aside these are different animals that meet different needs and desires altogether. So I'm not sure I understand the reasoning there. Then there is the idea that the xDrive component "kills everything". I can't find any reviews that suggest that xDrive causes any significant loss of performance and in fact BMW specs suggest xDrive models of the M340i are faster off the line. (Of course now the M440i is available in rear drive so the point is moot anyway.) Many reviews in which the car is put through its paces also indicate the the xDrive models will allow a little freedom in the rear. So again, muddy reasoning without any real data to back it up. The day I purchased this car I also drove a similarly spec'd but rear wheel drive M340i. In terms of comfort and handling I felt no difference whatsoever. No, neither test drives were on the track but most of these M-lite cars are never going to see a racetrack. Mine won't. (I am a track day instructor and have a dedicated track car. I also don't understand why some reviewers hate on this car simply because it doesn't fit neatly into some imagined 3-4-5 hierarchy. It is a 4 door hatchback. Who cares what model number it has on it? Why does it exist? It offers all the performance of an M340i. It is slightly more practical than an M340i and its overall lines are more elegant than and arguably better looking than the M340i. Are the looks hurt by the grill? Yes. The grill is ugly. Yes, reviewers parrot this all the time but it is, in my opinion, objectively ugly. Will it grow on me. No. Will I stop noticing it in a few weeks? Yes. Do I care what anyone else thinks about it? No. So no big deal really. Finally, who is the car for? For me and my wife (she will be the primary driver) we get best in class performance, reasonable luxury and a little bit of practicality. This will make the car a great daily driver and an EXCEPTIONAL long trip GTO.
xDrive helps considerably off the line. This car can 0-60 faster (with launch control) than cars with more horsepower than it due to its ability to put the power down with traction. xDrive in the car is also rear wheeled biased so its much different than your typical awd or 4x4 car.
I'm looking for either that or the M340I, How do you find the back seats to be, is it that much smaller than a M340I or will it be able to fit 4 or 5 adults for 40 mins rides ? I also live in a very hot area so the ventilated seats in the M440I is what makes me lean towards it instead of the M340I also is there another reasons to pick the M340I intead of the M440I if i don't mind the looks ?
@@reflexx8332 I did not check out the rear seats in the M340i but it is my understanding that they have a little more leg room and a bit more head room. I am 6'4" tall. I can sit in the back seat of the M440i Gran Coupe with the front seat set to where my 5'5" wife has it set. The leg room is adequate but not good. Headroom is limited by the rear window so I can not lean way back. I could ride back there in reasonable comfort for 30 minutes or so with no problem. Obviously it will be much easier for shorter people. I don't think the M440i Gran Coupe or the M340i will be comfortable with 3 adults in the back seat. Maybe a short trip across town but that's it. Also, keep in mind that the front seats on the M440i Gran Coupe go waaaaay back. Further back than I need at 6'4" tall. When the front seat is pushed all the way back there is no leg room in the back but just remember that almost no one will need them that far back. For me the M440i Gran Coupe is way better looking than the M440i Coupe which to me has proportion issues for coupe which should be better looking. I just don't like its looks at all. I think the M340i is a bit bland looking. It isn't a bad looking car but it doesn't necessarily stand out from an Accord or a Camry in my opinion. But that's just my opinion. On the other hand, our Gran Coupe gets comments all the time. I live in a small city of about 60,000 near a very large city and I have yet to see another M440i Gran Coupe around town. I think the main practical things you have to decide with the M340i vs the M440i Gran Coupe is rear seat vs trunk. The M340i probably has better rear seat comfort. The M440i Gran Coupe has way better rear hatch space which is also way more accessible than a trunk. You can't go wrong either way. But, I would strongly recommend sitting and or riding in the rear seats of both models to see what you need.
@@bencompson Thanks man appreciate the feedback, looks like the M440I GC is the better car overall and with the M440I having ventilated seats and the M340I don't makes it the better pick with the added bonus of having a more usable trunk without much compromises for the back seats, but one last question, how do feel about the extra added weight in the M440I GC compared to the lighter M340I with them both having the same engine and power do you feel that its a bit more floaty or less nimble when driving it compared to the 3
@@reflexx8332 I did not drive the 3 enough to really make a good comparison. I don't know how much the 3 weights but the M440i GC is heavy. However, given its weight I am astonished that it does not feel heavy. It is not floaty at all. It brakes like a beast (although brake modulation is not the best I've driven). For spirited on road driving it feels very agile to me. At the same time it does not ride harshly either. My track car is a 350Z and it is unpleasantly harsh even in stock form. My previous daily driver was an Infiniti G37 Coupe and it was a bit harsh as well but did not handle any better than the M440i GC all of which is to say that I think BMW has hit a very happy medium with the GC. Would it make a good track car? I don't know. But that is not what it or the M340i are intended to be. That's what the M3 is for. We considered an M3 but it just doesn't make sense to me for the money and all the track/performance features that would never get used (by me anyway) and that make it less pleasant to drive day to day. Anyway, between the M340i and the M440i GC I don't think you can make a bad choice.
When you say "Planet Earth" you must mean yourselves and your immediate social circle. The rest of the world has gotten over the new grill, and I would bet more than half of them have taken a liking to the it. I count myself among the initial naysayers, but I have to admit it has grown on me. Two things matter: seeing the car in person and placing the new 4-series next to the old 4 series.
RWD purists exhaust me... xDrive has a massive RWD bias. Beaver teeth is an homage to the old BMW grill. It's neat and unique. Car reviewers complain that "everything looks the same today!!" and when it's different, they screech. This is a perfect example of why automobile manufacturers hate car reviewers. This is coming from an Audi fanboy, not a BMW fanboy, I might add. Terrible, terrible review. All subjective. No objective. I'm half tempted to buy this car just because of these reviewers. I might trade my Audi in.
I actually like the front end lol. I’ve seen these in the metal and they look very expensive and ‘aggressive’ but not in a bad way. And I’m a diehard BMW fanboy too. I actually liked them when they first unveiled them! It’s weird because in video and pictures it doesn’t look as good but in person-seeing it in 3D brings out the nuances of the design, especially the grille. It doesn’t look “flat”, it has some depth to it. I’m starting to suspect the enthusiasts that don’t like them are the ones that spend a lot of time online on Reddit or forums just mimicking each other’s opinions. 🤣 Same thing happened when Bangle started going for it!
This car looks far better and far more distinct than the last generation 4 series in my opinion. This is a gorgeous grand touring car that still has the expected BMW athleticism.
Of course if one reviewer says the grill is ugly then they all jump on the band wagon. I own a 2022 in aventurine Red and I get so many compliments on the car and the look. It is such a beautiful car. BMW certainly hit the mark with this car, it’s different then anything on the road and I love them for it. BMW is in the business to make money not lose it. So trust me they put a lot of research into this. Even better the 4 series for the last few months have been out selling the 3 series… so the people who actually own the car and not just have it for a week loves the look.
Great video, but I do have to disagree with your Audi vs BMW assessment. I recently traded in my S5 sportback for the M440 Gran Coupe and the difference in handling is significant. The Audi was extremely nose heavy and you could really feel the weight of the front end in corners. The BMW feels much more balanced. The ride is better as well.
Totally agree with your assessment. I test drove the Audi and the handling was sub par. People don’t get how amazing and reliable the B58 is… Shame. The grill is great! It flows with the contours on the hood lines. It’s menacing but not evil. Definitely not for everyone , but neither is BMW .
I loveeee that car, and yes, I think the “beaver teeth” sets it apart. They are awesome. I had the coupe model for a loaner, and my neighbor went nuts over it. He ended up buying one.
We’ve given BMW plenty of love over the years on TV and on our original RUclips channel. You might enjoy our feature film “Icon” which compares all the M3 generations. Thanks for watching.
My Brooklyn Grey M440i has been built and is on the way. The front didn’t bother me at all. My well equipped car is coming with all options ordered no chip issues
This car is a bit of an enigma. It is 4-door like the 3 series or 5 series, but it has a hatchback. Here's the kicker though... the front passenger room is wider and it's quieter at speed than the 3 series. It slots PERFECTLY between the 3 series and 5 series. It's slightly nicer than the 3 series without encroaching on 5 series levels of luxury or price.
Very biased review, not helpful. Been trying one quite a bit as friend got his delivered, with (power) sport seats in cognac leather. The car feels amazing to drive and agile, it doesn’t feel at all at the wheel like a 5 series, unlike what is said. Thinking of putting a deposit down for one.
I like it too! The bigger grill gives it a more aggressive look. I was also looking at the g70, but this is bigger, has a liftback for cargo, it's faster, has better fuel economy, has better tech, and doesn't have that garbage half-analog gauge cluster.
Hi guys! Dustin from SF. So to give you an insight into the STUPID manual seats in a $67k car it’s from the chip shortage like you suspected. BMW, instead of just not building cars or letting cars sit like Ford, they decided to make cars but lose some features (power seats, passenger lumbar, Harman/Kardon speakers, touchscreens) but you still get the car. A family friend ordered that exact 440i Gran Coupe xDrive but in white over red and he didn’t get power seats. He was quite angry, but what can you do!? Cheers!
I think it exists because we dont have the BMW wagons over here anymore and this is more palatable to the US consumer than a wagon would be (I love wagons grrr). Also drives better than a SUV like the x1 or x3 but is almost just as practical
The manual seats are temporary cuz you got them early. When they’re more available it’ll be electric. A lot of things would change when they’re more available
You mention Kia Stinger, Genesis, Alfa and Acura TLX but NOT the main competition with the Audi S5 Sportback?!!! Which IS the main competition with luxury, tech and performance to the BMW 4dr grande coupe!
I’m in the market for a car like this, a sporty sedan/hatch that can haul an acoustic bass. But after this review and their comparison of the prior gen against the Stinger, I’m putting my down on a Stinger.
Came from a Stinger myself a GT2 and upgraded to this M440i GC. The Stinger was a great car in my 3 years of ownership just not as refined and the power delivery is butter smooth on the BMW. Plenty of cargo space.
@@masanta Prior gen M440i GC, I'd probably go there, but not with those teef. Stinger looks too good, and the GT1 gives you all the performance but a lot more value.
@@daresoner Thats what he said. Is a badge worth 17k more. Be loyal to you're wallet not a brand. The Stinger gives you looks, performance, amazing warranty. So does the other competitors listed.
I own the 440i Coupé and people genuinely love the front and the car as a whole. I have more people tell me that they love my car than any other car I've owned. It's a mean and sporty looking car which stands out. The reviewers have a base model instead of a fully spec model, which is the main negativity in this review. They'd be happy with a fully spec version. This is my first BMW and whilst mine is a full spec car, for me the interior is quality and the features are fantastic. It's more intelligent than my previous car the Polestar 2 Performance and quicker than my previous Audi TT S-Line. Do I wish it was fully Android Automotive? Yes but car manufacturers seem to be as resistant as mobile phone manufacturers were and will hopefully succumb to the better OS.
When the beaver teeth were first released, I thought they were the ugliest thing ever but then a BMW m4 or m3 came flying up behind me 1-2 years ago and it looked sooooo mean; it looked soooo aggressive; I instantly had to have it. It is so good looking in person when its paired with the M styling.
I am waiting for my 2024 M440i, I am trading from a 2015 X6. I still want a car that has storage capacity, and I like the profile much better than the 4 series coupe. The manual seats was temporary and due to chip shortage. Power seats are back.
Great review guys, as expected. The best part is that you don't just read off a spec sheet, but rather you take us through the mental dialog that we all go through when looking at cars to buy.
Everyone I talk to loves or at least likes the front end. Stop this nonsense where "everyone" hates the grill. That's not even close to honest. Only traditionalists seem to have a complaint and more and more people are liking it. Weak review because the 440i is more fun to drive than the S5. Both great cars, but the BMW is superior. The 440i Xdrive convertible is the best way to go.
Just ordered the 2024 model of this car. Personally, love the grill design. Yes, it's not "classic" BMW, but subjectively, I think it looks great. Unfortunately for those that hate it, I can say there is a huge backorder for this car. I ordered last week (late Feb 2023) and my build date isn't until April due to orders in front of me.
I have had 6 BMW's and for anyone considering this car, if you think performance is the reason to buy this type of car... well enjoy. My opinion is this is a luxury car that can perform more then needed for typical driving and even spirited driving. Having said that, whatever your choice BMW M440i GC, Audi S5, Mercedes C43 AMG, you will just be choosing looks inside and out. For me after driving all 3. The Audi was best outside and inside, minus the stuck on tablet on dashboard. The exhaust was real and throaty on the Audi with good crackles on downshifts as well. The other cars not so much, pumped in sound on merc, and the BMW engine sounds nice but the exhaust is all pumped in. Don't worry though, they are all good and you just pick what you like and you will be happy.
To me this is the best overall car in their line up. Love the hatchback. It woukd be better if they brought over a 340 wagon but we all know that’s never going to happen
You can still get the 3 series, 340i, with RWD, Turbo 6, and high performance cooling and tire + adaptive sport suspension for 60K. Still too much, but a lot more palatable, and no stupid grille. Either that or get the stinger/G70. Or get a Cadillac CT4 Blacking. Just some thoughts.
Hey guys, love the videos! Curious did you ever get to drive this on something other than winter tires? I had the opportunity to drive my neighbors in the winter and then again in the spring when he switched to msp cups and sheesh big difference sheesh
Great video as always. If you don’t want AWD, the better alternative would be the M340i, no beaver teeth and you can get it in rear drive or all wheel drive. Exact same car, horsepower, torque, engine, etc. thats what I bought
My wife likes the "teef," and pretty much all the huge grills across brands. But she isn't a car person. I don't like the "teef," but my dislike is nowhere near the vehement disdain the rest of the car community seems to have. I wonder if most non-car people like that look and the manufacturers know most people buying even fast or luxurious cars aren't car people. Because we are in an era of oversized grills.
If one does not need the hatch, please consider the m340i or m340i x-drive. The 3 series gains the advantage of a more rigid chassis (as it does not have a hole for a hatch), lighter curb weight in rwd or x-drive form, better subjective front end styling, and maybe most important for the cost conscious; more affordable pricing.
I must agree, BMW manual seats are near on impossible to get comfy in and only a few of the adjuster things have labels so no one knows how to adjust it
What the hell does BMW think ? $60 and up without power seats ? So No memory seats . Forget it . I am thinking about trade in my 2019 Infiniti Q50S for this Baby at the end of the year , no way for a luxury car without memory seat and but manual . I do not want to spend $50k and up for a car with 4 cylinders , no way . 4 cylinders is so boring after 2- 3 years cause it is weak ….
That middle rear seat is useless with the hump for the awd. It’s a solid 4 seater. Can’t wait to trade in my 430i GC for the 440i m lite. Only problem is I can’t find any used ones with low miles 😢
I was looking at this last month when I was in the market to upgrade my car. Ended up getting the M240i instead. It has the same motor but was 10k cheaper. Also it reminded me of my FRS I got rid of a few years ago. PS: If you guys are looking to do a review on the M240i I’m local in Utah. Just hit me up and we can figure out the details.
By the way, mine is rear wheel drive with all the available options, electric everywhere. 7.5 liter for 1000km after 3000km. It pull like mad. Don’t let it stand on a restaurant parking, people will stop and admire it. I feel young again like in the time I bought my first car, a 1965 Mustang with a 289 engine. Time has past but the feeling of power is still the. Cheers.
So here's a kicker: the i4 M50 which is a faster and more powerful vehicle that slots between M3 and M440i in capability is the same price...fully loaded it's just a few grand more but it also costs much less to own, and if your lifestyle can accommodate an EV it isn't the logical choice to go with the M440i over the i4 M50.
Yes $70K is far too much; manual seats is due to chip shortage; have seen it mentioned in the news a few times but even with them that is too much. Beaver face grille looks A LOT better if you get the blackout package (because it turns the border of the grille black, eliminating the "nostril" look). In 430i guise with the upgraded leather and M Sport pkg, you can walk out with this for $50K - $52K. 35mpg, superior dynamics, build quality far better than any rival near the price, and you still can rip off a 0-60 in 5.2 (if you go X-Drive). Ughhh, that is a SLAM DUNK, imho.
Again, the people who dislike the styling were never in the market nor could they even afford it. The amount of new 4 Series, and M3/M4’s I’ve seen on the roads says that people do like the styling.
Great review Paul and Todd. It’s interesting to see what aspects shift your thoughts on this versus the rwd 430 and lesser extant the M4 from tv. It also makes me curious to see how your think the all electric i4 flavor of this form factor will compare? It seems like most of the electric competition in the price range are CUVs outside of the Model 3 and Polestar 2. It’d be interesting to see if a RWD i4 would hold merit as a (butter-faced) hatch alternative to a Mach E, Volvo C40, Ioniq5, Q4, etc etc that isn’t a crossover.
(Sept 2022) I am a reformed hater, I now actually like the front end. I really like the lines of this car, I love the big power, and I appreciate that the exhaust sound does not pop and crackle. Trade the xDrive for some electric seats and you will have a true classic BMW.
Todd.. owned classic bmws for a long time. Been in the bmw club a long time. Let me say that you get a parking lot full of e30 e36 e46 e90 m3s and m5s everywhere.. and half the talking is how none of those people would buy the ugly cars with sewer cover grate grill. So todd.. there is hope. Too bad the ship that burned down was not full of bever teef.. but the burned vw products cheered me up.
Ugh! You guys really should spend a little more time researching current issues before you spend 20% of the show whining about and downgrading the car because your press car came with manual seats. What a waste of time. That was a temporary production issue. They now come with auto seats just like the convertible you tested, and it doesn't cost more.
I’m a huge BMW fan, currently own an 07 328xi and 14 X5, and a Mini Countryman, and all the new noses are hideous, absolutely make me throw up in my mouth whenever I see them. For the same money, go for the Cadillac CT4V Blackwing.
Your Mini Countryman is hideous! Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as the new BMWs. These new 4 Series are gorgeous. You are just one of those people who are scared of change.
My car didn’t come with MANUAL seats adjustments. You guys got the cheap version. Probably because your car reviewing & don’t have the fully specked out one.
How do you forget how this competes with the more beautiful Audi S5 Sportback till the end of the video? Boggles my mind and in 2024 now you can get this without X drive. In addition my neighbor took his family of 4 to Utah from Los Angeles on a road trip with comfort for their kids in the back (11 and 15 yr old). Agree the front is so ugly that I will likely buy the Audi S5 Sportback.
You shouldn't give BMW a pass. BMW is cutting away at packages, keeping the pricing the same, isrive is still a work in progress after 15 years, I own a 24 440i GC, and if I could take a reasonable hit on the BMW, a Tesla "S" would be in my driveway. BMW has lost its way.
This car exists because if you'r carrying cargo more often than passengers it's far more practical than the M340i sedan. On the flip side, you lose backseat space. The REAL dream would be if BMW brought the M340i Touring to North America. THAT car makes the Gran Coupe irrelevant in almost every respect except for the coupe styling.
So you guys need to realize styling is highly subjective and the constant stupid comments about the grill apply to your tastes and only your taste. Many, and I mean MANY people like the new aggressive and bold styling. Dosent look like every other BMW made for the last 30 years. Also please try and remember not everyone is buying cars based solely on the race car qualities.
This analysis seems off on a few levels.. I paid 67k for full electric seats, blue laser lights, m suspension. Harmon Kardon. You buy this car for the performance aspect without paying a premium for true M car. The x drive is for peace of mind in snow, gravel and wet roads. You’re also underselling the usefulness and utility of the large hatchback. The competitors you mentioned have hideous interiors . Really cheap textures. Regarding the Audi S5, you’re sacrificing reliability. The B58 in the M440i is bullet proof. The Audi S5 engine can’t hold a candle to it. That’s why Toyota chose the B58 for their Supra. THis car in the black or Brooklyn Grey is epic and the grill works for me.. It also adds greater cooling.
Spot on. I was scratching my head through this entire review. Recommending an S5 over the M440i?! Why? Cause you like losing races? Cause you like visiting the mechanic? Cause you like old interiors? Oh you don’t like the grill? That’s ok, you’ll only ever see the BMWs tail lights in an S5 anyways. And I actually like the S5. Strange take by these guys to be sure, but I guess that’s why they say there’s no accounting for taste.
I 100% agree with you, I have the 440i Coupé with every package in Brooklyn grey. The only reason I went with the 440i was for the X-Drive like you. It's a great value M sport car and I still get blown away by its ability to park itself.
I have so many people tell me that they love my car. People love the front, I don't know what all the reviewers keep mentioning the grill in a derogatory way, just because it is different.
@@SirBobbyDazzler The BMW traditionalists hate the grill. The general population loves them. It’s bold and different.
I just purchased a used 2022 M440i Gran Coupe. And I have to say the comparison with the 440i coupe is kind of silly. And to suggest that the 440 coupe is a better car is even sillier. First the performance is vastly different. Obviously. If someone likes the 440 platform and wants more performance then the M440i is the obvious choice. But the silliest thing is to compare the coupe with a 4 door hatchback. All performance issues aside these are different animals that meet different needs and desires altogether. So I'm not sure I understand the reasoning there.
Then there is the idea that the xDrive component "kills everything". I can't find any reviews that suggest that xDrive causes any significant loss of performance and in fact BMW specs suggest xDrive models of the M340i are faster off the line. (Of course now the M440i is available in rear drive so the point is moot anyway.) Many reviews in which the car is put through its paces also indicate the the xDrive models will allow a little freedom in the rear. So again, muddy reasoning without any real data to back it up.
The day I purchased this car I also drove a similarly spec'd but rear wheel drive M340i. In terms of comfort and handling I felt no difference whatsoever. No, neither test drives were on the track but most of these M-lite cars are never going to see a racetrack. Mine won't. (I am a track day instructor and have a dedicated track car.
I also don't understand why some reviewers hate on this car simply because it doesn't fit neatly into some imagined 3-4-5 hierarchy. It is a 4 door hatchback. Who cares what model number it has on it? Why does it exist? It offers all the performance of an M340i. It is slightly more practical than an M340i and its overall lines are more elegant than and arguably better looking than the M340i.
Are the looks hurt by the grill? Yes. The grill is ugly. Yes, reviewers parrot this all the time but it is, in my opinion, objectively ugly. Will it grow on me. No. Will I stop noticing it in a few weeks? Yes. Do I care what anyone else thinks about it? No. So no big deal really.
Finally, who is the car for? For me and my wife (she will be the primary driver) we get best in class performance, reasonable luxury and a little bit of practicality. This will make the car a great daily driver and an EXCEPTIONAL long trip GTO.
xDrive helps considerably off the line. This car can 0-60 faster (with launch control) than cars with more horsepower than it due to its ability to put the power down with traction. xDrive in the car is also rear wheeled biased so its much different than your typical awd or 4x4 car.
I'm looking for either that or the M340I, How do you find the back seats to be, is it that much smaller than a M340I or will it be able to fit 4 or 5 adults for 40 mins rides ?
I also live in a very hot area so the ventilated seats in the M440I is what makes me lean towards it instead of the M340I also is there another reasons to pick the M340I intead of the M440I if i don't mind the looks ?
@@reflexx8332 I did not check out the rear seats in the M340i but it is my understanding that they have a little more leg room and a bit more head room. I am 6'4" tall. I can sit in the back seat of the M440i Gran Coupe with the front seat set to where my 5'5" wife has it set. The leg room is adequate but not good. Headroom is limited by the rear window so I can not lean way back. I could ride back there in reasonable comfort for 30 minutes or so with no problem. Obviously it will be much easier for shorter people. I don't think the M440i Gran Coupe or the M340i will be comfortable with 3 adults in the back seat. Maybe a short trip across town but that's it.
Also, keep in mind that the front seats on the M440i Gran Coupe go waaaaay back. Further back than I need at 6'4" tall. When the front seat is pushed all the way back there is no leg room in the back but just remember that almost no one will need them that far back.
For me the M440i Gran Coupe is way better looking than the M440i Coupe which to me has proportion issues for coupe which should be better looking. I just don't like its looks at all. I think the M340i is a bit bland looking. It isn't a bad looking car but it doesn't necessarily stand out from an Accord or a Camry in my opinion. But that's just my opinion. On the other hand, our Gran Coupe gets comments all the time. I live in a small city of about 60,000 near a very large city and I have yet to see another M440i Gran Coupe around town.
I think the main practical things you have to decide with the M340i vs the M440i Gran Coupe is rear seat vs trunk. The M340i probably has better rear seat comfort. The M440i Gran Coupe has way better rear hatch space which is also way more accessible than a trunk.
You can't go wrong either way. But, I would strongly recommend sitting and or riding in the rear seats of both models to see what you need.
@@bencompson Thanks man appreciate the feedback, looks like the M440I GC is the better car overall and with the M440I having ventilated seats and the M340I don't makes it the better pick with the added bonus of having a more usable trunk without much compromises for the back seats, but one last question, how do feel about the extra added weight in the M440I GC compared to the lighter M340I with them both having the same engine and power do you feel that its a bit more floaty or less nimble when driving it compared to the 3
@@reflexx8332 I did not drive the 3 enough to really make a good comparison. I don't know how much the 3 weights but the M440i GC is heavy. However, given its weight I am astonished that it does not feel heavy. It is not floaty at all. It brakes like a beast (although brake modulation is not the best I've driven). For spirited on road driving it feels very agile to me. At the same time it does not ride harshly either. My track car is a 350Z and it is unpleasantly harsh even in stock form. My previous daily driver was an Infiniti G37 Coupe and it was a bit harsh as well but did not handle any better than the M440i GC all of which is to say that I think BMW has hit a very happy medium with the GC.
Would it make a good track car? I don't know. But that is not what it or the M340i are intended to be. That's what the M3 is for. We considered an M3 but it just doesn't make sense to me for the money and all the track/performance features that would never get used (by me anyway) and that make it less pleasant to drive day to day.
Anyway, between the M340i and the M440i GC I don't think you can make a bad choice.
First time BMW owner and I love the car.
I like the grill. I wouldn't do non power seats. I am comparing this to the Audi S5. My 10 year old fits the back fine.
Non powered seats are not an option. They are driving an early review version of the car.
When you say "Planet Earth" you must mean yourselves and your immediate social circle. The rest of the world has gotten over the new grill, and I would bet more than half of them have taken a liking to the it. I count myself among the initial naysayers, but I have to admit it has grown on me. Two things matter: seeing the car in person and placing the new 4-series next to the old 4 series.
RWD purists exhaust me...
xDrive has a massive RWD bias.
Beaver teeth is an homage to the old BMW grill. It's neat and unique.
Car reviewers complain that "everything looks the same today!!" and when it's different, they screech.
This is a perfect example of why automobile manufacturers hate car reviewers.
This is coming from an Audi fanboy, not a BMW fanboy, I might add.
Terrible, terrible review. All subjective. No objective.
I'm half tempted to buy this car just because of these reviewers. I might trade my Audi in.
I actually like the front end lol. I’ve seen these in the metal and they look very expensive and ‘aggressive’ but not in a bad way. And I’m a diehard BMW fanboy too. I actually liked them when they first unveiled them!
It’s weird because in video and pictures it doesn’t look as good but in person-seeing it in 3D brings out the nuances of the design, especially the grille. It doesn’t look “flat”, it has some depth to it.
I’m starting to suspect the enthusiasts that don’t like them are the ones that spend a lot of time online on Reddit or forums just mimicking each other’s opinions. 🤣 Same thing happened when Bangle started going for it!
This car looks far better and far more distinct than the last generation 4 series in my opinion. This is a gorgeous grand touring car that still has the expected BMW athleticism.
Of course if one reviewer says the grill is ugly then they all jump on the band wagon. I own a 2022 in aventurine Red and I get so many compliments on the car and the look. It is such a beautiful car. BMW certainly hit the mark with this car, it’s different then anything on the road and I love them for it. BMW is in the business to make money not lose it. So trust me they put a lot of research into this. Even better the 4 series for the last few months have been out selling the 3 series… so the people who actually own the car and not just have it for a week loves the look.
Great video, but I do have to disagree with your Audi vs BMW assessment. I recently traded in my S5 sportback for the M440 Gran Coupe and the difference in handling is significant. The Audi was extremely nose heavy and you could really feel the weight of the front end in corners. The BMW feels much more balanced. The ride is better as well.
Totally agree with your assessment. I test drove the Audi and the handling was sub par. People don’t get how amazing and reliable the B58 is… Shame. The grill is great! It flows with the contours on the hood lines. It’s menacing but not evil. Definitely not for everyone , but neither is BMW .
I loveeee that car, and yes, I think the “beaver teeth” sets it apart. They are awesome. I had the coupe model for a loaner, and my neighbor went nuts over it. He ended up buying one.
Looks like Kia hired some “marketing pros” to comment on bmw videos lmao
We’ve given BMW plenty of love over the years on TV and on our original RUclips channel. You might enjoy our feature film “Icon” which compares all the M3 generations. Thanks for watching.
My Brooklyn Grey M440i has been built and is on the way. The front didn’t bother me at all. My well equipped car is coming with all options ordered no chip issues
This car is a bit of an enigma. It is 4-door like the 3 series or 5 series, but it has a hatchback. Here's the kicker though... the front passenger room is wider and it's quieter at speed than the 3 series. It slots PERFECTLY between the 3 series and 5 series. It's slightly nicer than the 3 series without encroaching on 5 series levels of luxury or price.
Very biased review, not helpful. Been trying one quite a bit as friend got his delivered, with (power) sport seats in cognac leather. The car feels amazing to drive and agile, it doesn’t feel at all at the wheel like a 5 series, unlike what is said. Thinking of putting a deposit down for one.
8:50 Frameless windows are one of the nicest upgrades on a car....
The 5 series drives like a boat compared to this car. These guys don’t know what they are talking about.
I love the beaver teeth! This will be my next purchase. Other than the cockpit Audi looks dated.
I like it too! The bigger grill gives it a more aggressive look. I was also looking at the g70, but this is bigger, has a liftback for cargo, it's faster, has better fuel economy, has better tech, and doesn't have that garbage half-analog gauge cluster.
Hi guys! Dustin from SF. So to give you an insight into the STUPID manual seats in a $67k car it’s from the chip shortage like you suspected. BMW, instead of just not building cars or letting cars sit like Ford, they decided to make cars but lose some features (power seats, passenger lumbar, Harman/Kardon speakers, touchscreens) but you still get the car. A family friend ordered that exact 440i Gran Coupe xDrive but in white over red and he didn’t get power seats. He was quite angry, but what can you do!? Cheers!
I actually prefer manual seats.
@@francisdrelling4060 I don’t mind them being manual, but they should have lumbar at minimum.
You can not buy it, BMW can cut the price accordingly (or do a Ford)
I guess that I am a genuine, anomaly, because I’m not a BMW fan boy, but I like the styling, kidney grill and all
It's basically two side-by-side 1958 Edsel grills.
I think it exists because we dont have the BMW wagons over here anymore and this is more palatable to the US consumer than a wagon would be (I love wagons grrr). Also drives better than a SUV like the x1 or x3 but is almost just as practical
The manual seats are temporary cuz you got them early. When they’re more available it’ll be electric. A lot of things would change when they’re more available
The whole time I was watching this I was thinking the same thing. Mine has the electric seats.
You mention Kia Stinger, Genesis, Alfa and Acura TLX but NOT the main competition with the Audi S5 Sportback?!!! Which IS the main competition with luxury, tech and performance to the BMW 4dr grande coupe!
Seems like you didn’t watch all of this…
I’m in the market for a car like this, a sporty sedan/hatch that can haul an acoustic bass. But after this review and their comparison of the prior gen against the Stinger, I’m putting my down on a Stinger.
Came from a Stinger myself a GT2 and upgraded to this M440i GC. The Stinger was a great car in my 3 years of ownership just not as refined and the power delivery is butter smooth on the BMW. Plenty of cargo space.
Kia Stinger Over the M440 ?
@@masanta Prior gen M440i GC, I'd probably go there, but not with those teef. Stinger looks too good, and the GT1 gives you all the performance but a lot more value.
You’re not easily influenced, that’s good haha
@@daresoner Thats what he said. Is a badge worth 17k more. Be loyal to you're wallet not a brand. The Stinger gives you looks, performance, amazing warranty. So does the other competitors listed.
I own the 440i Coupé and people genuinely love the front and the car as a whole. I have more people tell me that they love my car than any other car I've owned. It's a mean and sporty looking car which stands out.
The reviewers have a base model instead of a fully spec model, which is the main negativity in this review. They'd be happy with a fully spec version.
This is my first BMW and whilst mine is a full spec car, for me the interior is quality and the features are fantastic. It's more intelligent than my previous car the Polestar 2 Performance and quicker than my previous Audi TT S-Line. Do I wish it was fully Android Automotive? Yes but car manufacturers seem to be as resistant as mobile phone manufacturers were and will hopefully succumb to the better OS.
The 430 engine is awful compared to the b58. I own both…you guys are insane to think the 430i invokes the same driving joy as the b58 in the m440i
Don't like the way that car looks at any angle.
When the beaver teeth were first released, I thought they were the ugliest thing ever but then a BMW m4 or m3 came flying up behind me 1-2 years ago and it looked sooooo mean; it looked soooo aggressive; I instantly had to have it. It is so good looking in person when its paired with the M styling.
"contain this glorious power"
lol
anybody still think these Statler and Waldorf are for real? :-))
I am waiting for my 2024 M440i, I am trading from a 2015 X6. I still want a car that has storage capacity, and I like the profile much better than the 4 series coupe. The manual seats was temporary and due to chip shortage. Power seats are back.
Great review guys, as expected. The best part is that you don't just read off a spec sheet, but rather you take us through the mental dialog that we all go through when looking at cars to buy.
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
Everyone I talk to loves or at least likes the front end. Stop this nonsense where "everyone" hates the grill. That's not even close to honest. Only traditionalists seem to have a complaint and more and more people are liking it. Weak review because the 440i is more fun to drive than the S5. Both great cars, but the BMW is superior. The 440i Xdrive convertible is the best way to go.
Just ordered the 2024 model of this car. Personally, love the grill design. Yes, it's not "classic" BMW, but subjectively, I think it looks great.
Unfortunately for those that hate it, I can say there is a huge backorder for this car. I ordered last week (late Feb 2023) and my build date isn't until April due to orders in front of me.
I have had 6 BMW's and for anyone considering this car, if you think performance is the reason to buy this type of car... well enjoy. My opinion is this is a luxury car that can perform more then needed for typical driving and even spirited driving. Having said that, whatever your choice BMW M440i GC, Audi S5, Mercedes C43 AMG, you will just be choosing looks inside and out. For me after driving all 3. The Audi was best outside and inside, minus the stuck on tablet on dashboard. The exhaust was real and throaty on the Audi with good crackles on downshifts as well. The other cars not so much, pumped in sound on merc, and the BMW engine sounds nice but the exhaust is all pumped in. Don't worry though, they are all good and you just pick what you like and you will be happy.
Ok but where was this filmed?? Is this USA? Canada?
To me this is the best overall car in their line up. Love the hatchback. It woukd be better if they brought over a 340 wagon but we all know that’s never going to happen
Lack of power seats and other missing equipment were due to chip shortage at that time. The M440 is a direct competitor to the Audi S5.
Dude people buy what they like or what they can afford Full Stop. Move on with the grill already.
You can still get the 3 series, 340i, with RWD, Turbo 6, and high performance cooling and tire + adaptive sport suspension for 60K. Still too much, but a lot more palatable, and no stupid grille. Either that or get the stinger/G70. Or get a Cadillac CT4 Blacking. Just some thoughts.
Looks much better in person (compared to how it looks on screen/videos and picture) - really cool car.
We have drown the Taos already. Can drown the Beaver Teeff now be a thing?
Love this color
Hey guys, love the videos! Curious did you ever get to drive this on something other than winter tires? I had the opportunity to drive my neighbors in the winter and then again in the spring when he switched to msp cups and sheesh big difference sheesh
Great video as always. If you don’t want AWD, the better alternative would be the M340i, no beaver teeth and you can get it in rear drive or all wheel drive. Exact same car, horsepower, torque, engine, etc. thats what I bought
Makes complete sense, Glenn. Thanks for watching as always!
That grill was initially "suspect" but I quickly came to love it. Super aggressive, super cool.
The s5 is nowhere near as fast as the m440. Don't fool yourself. S5 is 350hp. M440 is on paper 380 but really 430
Great! now the beaver has braces.
I don't care how it drives, i can't get over the styling.
sorry if off the subject...but are you guys from SLC, Utah? I assume that's why most of your reviews seem to be in the Park City area.
Yep. The show is based in the SLC/PC area. Thanks for watching!
My wife likes the "teef," and pretty much all the huge grills across brands. But she isn't a car person. I don't like the "teef," but my dislike is nowhere near the vehement disdain the rest of the car community seems to have.
I wonder if most non-car people like that look and the manufacturers know most people buying even fast or luxurious cars aren't car people. Because we are in an era of oversized grills.
If one does not need the hatch, please consider the m340i or m340i x-drive. The 3 series gains the advantage of a more rigid chassis (as it does not have a hole for a hatch), lighter curb weight in rwd or x-drive form, better subjective front end styling, and maybe most important for the cost conscious; more affordable pricing.
Some strong points there - although the competition m4 convertible is my favorite.
Beautiful car especially that color spec
Pretty cool and nice car but I still haven't gotten used to that odd grille.
I must agree, BMW manual seats are near on impossible to get comfy in and only a few of the adjuster things have labels so no one knows how to adjust it
What the hell does BMW think ? $60 and up without power seats ? So No memory seats . Forget it . I am thinking about trade in my 2019 Infiniti Q50S for this Baby at the end of the year , no way for a luxury car without memory seat and but manual . I do not want to spend $50k and up for a car with 4 cylinders , no way . 4 cylinders is so boring after 2- 3 years cause it is weak ….
That middle rear seat is useless with the hump for the awd. It’s a solid 4 seater. Can’t wait to trade in my 430i GC for the 440i m lite. Only problem is I can’t find any used ones with low miles 😢
I was looking at this last month when I was in the market to upgrade my car. Ended up getting the M240i instead. It has the same motor but was 10k cheaper. Also it reminded me of my FRS I got rid of a few years ago.
PS: If you guys are looking to do a review on the M240i I’m local in Utah. Just hit me up and we can figure out the details.
Hi earthman. I am from planet Upong. I just want to tell U that I like this beaver grill. ( I own a M440i cabriolet) Nice vid, thanks.
By the way, mine is rear wheel drive with all the available options, electric everywhere. 7.5 liter for 1000km after 3000km. It pull like mad. Don’t let it stand on a restaurant parking, people will stop and admire it. I feel young again like in the time I bought my first car, a 1965 Mustang with a 289 engine. Time has past but the feeling of power is still the. Cheers.
So here's a kicker: the i4 M50 which is a faster and more powerful vehicle that slots between M3 and M440i in capability is the same price...fully loaded it's just a few grand more but it also costs much less to own, and if your lifestyle can accommodate an EV it isn't the logical choice to go with the M440i over the i4 M50.
Yes $70K is far too much; manual seats is due to chip shortage; have seen it mentioned in the news a few times but even with them that is too much. Beaver face grille looks A LOT better if you get the blackout package (because it turns the border of the grille black, eliminating the "nostril" look). In 430i guise with the upgraded leather and M Sport pkg, you can walk out with this for $50K - $52K. 35mpg, superior dynamics, build quality far better than any rival near the price, and you still can rip off a 0-60 in 5.2 (if you go X-Drive). Ughhh, that is a SLAM DUNK, imho.
Again, the people who dislike the styling were never in the market nor could they even afford it. The amount of new 4 Series, and M3/M4’s I’ve seen on the roads says that people do like the styling.
Really? I live in LA and see more 3 series and 5 series than the 4.
You hardly see them here. But I imagine most of the people are buying them for the badge, not because they like the looks.
Really?? Wow. There are plenty of us who could easily afford this who find it ugly, and go with MB or Audi. Jeez.
I bought the m340i for its grill over the m440 GC…Wouldn’t want to be seen in the GC.
Great review Paul and Todd. It’s interesting to see what aspects shift your thoughts on this versus the rwd 430 and lesser extant the M4 from tv. It also makes me curious to see how your think the all electric i4 flavor of this form factor will compare? It seems like most of the electric competition in the price range are CUVs outside of the Model 3 and Polestar 2. It’d be interesting to see if a RWD i4 would hold merit as a (butter-faced) hatch alternative to a Mach E, Volvo C40, Ioniq5, Q4, etc etc that isn’t a crossover.
tldr- expensive bmw is fast and good, surprise
We’re guessing you didn’t watch much of this review.
I still bought the car, there is simply no other competitier in 4 door midsize performance sedans that matches it. The teeth is becoming tolerable.
Can you imagine taking your friends for a drive and having to explain the manual seats? Ouch....
You mean my friends that are waiting at the bus stop?? 😂
Yep i hate this model too but that is what after market is for 😆...I love my 2019 GC 440i M Performance Exhaust - stage 2 M Power Kit
Sorry guys. Bold styling is in and it’s not going away. There are used Corollas for sale if you aren’t into cars that look aggressive. 😁
Sit in an s5 sportback… it is so small up front. The headliner is super low. And the engine doesn’t compare to the b58.
You solve the M440i beaver teeth issue by buying a M340i. Thank god they kept the "regular" kidney grille on that car.
(Sept 2022) I am a reformed hater, I now actually like the front end. I really like the lines of this car, I love the big power, and I appreciate that the exhaust sound does not pop and crackle. Trade the xDrive for some electric seats and you will have a true classic BMW.
Todd.. owned classic bmws for a long time. Been in the bmw club a long time. Let me say that you get a parking lot full of e30 e36 e46 e90 m3s and m5s everywhere.. and half the talking is how none of those people would buy the ugly cars with sewer cover grate grill. So todd.. there is hope.
Too bad the ship that burned down was not full of bever teef.. but the burned vw products cheered me up.
#drownthetaos
@@seavixen125 #drownthebeaverteeff
I can forgive the grille but a 70k car where I have to manually adjust the seat! Give me a break BMW 😪
I haven’t seen them in person but the grill is growing on me, still would prefer without them but I won’t mind them.
Ugh! You guys really should spend a little more time researching current issues before you spend 20% of the show whining about and downgrading the car because your press car came with manual seats. What a waste of time. That was a temporary production issue. They now come with auto seats just like the convertible you tested, and it doesn't cost more.
Did you miss the part where we acknowledged it being a supply chain issue? Thanks for watching.
@@TestDriveVideos so why did you guys keep complaining about it 🤡
I love the grill 😊
And I picked the 4 series and S5 BECAUSE they are hatchbacks. The 5 series is less appealing in its lines.
The Beaver Teeff have to go. I would consider BMW but not until the teeff go!
Aren’t the beaver teef going to disappear for the same reason they appeared - stylistic design evolution?
There’s no reason to get this car when you can get the m340i xdrive for around 60k with a much better front grill
factsssss
Ventilated seats and a lift back are nice upgrades over the 340i. Coming from a 340 owner.
I’m a huge BMW fan, currently own an 07 328xi and 14 X5, and a Mini Countryman, and all the new noses are hideous, absolutely make me throw up in my mouth whenever I see them. For the same money, go for the Cadillac CT4V Blackwing.
not me, i just ordered an m3 xdrive in brooklyn grey. NOT trying to hide the grill, but accentuate it!
Your Mini Countryman is hideous! Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as the new BMWs. These new 4 Series are gorgeous. You are just one of those people who are scared of change.
My car didn’t come with MANUAL seats adjustments. You guys got the cheap version. Probably because your car reviewing & don’t have the fully specked out one.
Love hearing opinions. Hate opinions presented as facts.
Don't they have a rear-wheel drive variant of this car?
How do you forget how this competes with the more beautiful Audi S5 Sportback till the end of the video? Boggles my mind and in 2024 now you can get this without X drive. In addition my neighbor took his family of 4 to Utah from Los Angeles on a road trip with comfort for their kids in the back (11 and 15 yr old). Agree the front is so ugly that I will likely buy the Audi S5 Sportback.
I considered the s5 sportback but the car isn't as balanced as the m440i or even a Kia Stinger
I love the 440 gc!!!
I was like... no mention of Audi S5? But then I was happy :D
The new ones have electric seats
This one should have too… but chip shortage kept this car from having them.
I just looked it up, towing capacity for the 440 is over 3500lbs... Hmm... Any other sport sedans able to tow that much?
You shouldn't give BMW a pass. BMW is cutting away at packages, keeping the pricing the same, isrive is still a work in progress after 15 years, I own a 24 440i GC, and if I could take a reasonable hit on the BMW, a Tesla "S" would be in my driveway. BMW has lost its way.
Was in the market for a new car and I skipped over BMW because of that awful grill. WTF happened to them.
I’m going with the m440 over the m340 because of the hatch.
In Europe we cand order RWD , 25% discount so the car is great value
This car exists because if you'r carrying cargo more often than passengers it's far more practical than the M340i sedan. On the flip side, you lose backseat space. The REAL dream would be if BMW brought the M340i Touring to North America. THAT car makes the Gran Coupe irrelevant in almost every respect except for the coupe styling.
I was about to upvote you until you mentioned ugly ass station wagons. No thanks Clark Griswold.
beautifull car, specially in this green color...but manual seats ??
With gas prices the way they are I'm glad that thing can just naw on a log in the morning so I can get to work...
So you guys need to realize styling is highly subjective and the constant stupid comments about the grill apply to your tastes and only your taste. Many, and I mean MANY people like the new aggressive and bold styling. Dosent look like every other BMW made for the last 30 years. Also please try and remember not everyone is buying cars based solely on the race car qualities.
Who wants a pretend rocket that is really just a hatchback ?
The teeth look good in real life
I want a green car and I can’t get m340i in green, so I have to decide if the teeth are worth the color.