I would counter by saying Toor Knives are designed explicitly for tactical applications and have contracts with military/leo and have far fewer attachment points than the strongarm sheath
It might depend on how big the knife is I’m not sure but for the liner lock folders around 15:30, I have the same issue but a way around it is to move your thumb out of the way as soon as there’s motion then close it with the pointer finger. Eg: start with pressure on both back of the blade and the liner then as soon as you push the liner move thumb away and continue pushing on the back of the blade. Should work with those two you mentioned, feels a bit weird at first to close but you’ll get used to it.
And on ALL Gerbers.. they have date codes somewhere on the blade..i have a couple strongarms.... and actually i love the sheath....i feel like the " FATAL FLAW " is the 420HC steel..imagine it in a better steel
I'm sure they could sell it in an upgraded steel (they might already with the camp version?) but I'm not really bothered by the budget steel especially if it's almost indestructible
I’m right there with you when you mentioned having a compression lock on the native 5. I have yet to buy one but just because I don’t like the lock up now. I just got a para 3 with awt scales and pocket clip and man is it sexy! The knife with awt scales and pocket clip during Black Friday was only 110 for the knife, and 70 for the scales and clip. 180 total and it’s more expensive now stock.
The MSI is such a great blade, also the Amphibian is excellent as well, I actually like the pocket clip😂. But you’re correct both of these blades could serve you for the rest of your life perfectly 👍
My perfect knife would be a buck 110 auto with A. A liner lock B. A button lock and a pocket clip. I would carry mine way more often as I need one handed operation for most uses. I agree with the issues on the gerber fixed blades. Love my strong arm but sheath could be better. And the issue with the principle is why I passed on it.
I edc that Case Marilla and keep the Kinsua in my rig as one of my backups. Those pocketclips are definitely annoying, but, they're quite capable knives. I need new pants anyway.
The worst pocket clip of all time trophy will always go to the Microtech DOC flipper. I’ve had one for years and while it doesn’t affect my hand (lefty), it’s super sharp and highly ramped. Maybe one day I’ll grind it down, but it’s also a long discontinued model, so perhaps it’s best to keep it unmodified. 😅
I have a launch 16 and IMO it's 90% perfect until you try to press the button with gloves on or without looking directly at it. My callused thumb can't feel anything. With gloves on it's a paperweight because it's impossible to press the button with gloves on. It only needs to be 1-1.5 mm taller to be perfect. I adhered a silicone disc to the button and I love this knife now. Some people hate the pocket clip but I don't have any issues with it.
I just recently bought the microtech amphibian and your right the pocket clip is unusable in its shipped configuration it’s way too tight. I took a pair of pliers and bent it out just enough to where it’s raised to where you can get a piece of paper between the scales and the clip and it’s perfect that way.
@ agreed. I really like mine, I have a couple benchmade bugouts in various trim levels and a zt 0562cf that I’ve been carrying for about a year but I’m really liking this amphibian. It’s a beast cutting cardboard and various things at work, but the first thing I did was bend that clip out.
@@joshhopper6109 played around with it for a minute and got it a little better, I'll have to try again when I have some more time but you're definitely onto something...
Good list. I've had the Strongarm on my list for a long time, but ended up going with a 1095 knife instead. Your thoughts on the flipper tab getting in the way is kind of the opposite of how I see it. I think the tab helps prevent people from having the blade guillotine their thumb when unlocking. Maybe it is just me, but my poor thumb has lots of scars from sharp knives dropping during unlock. I really like the MSI with serrations, but yeah, thumb opening is bad and unfortunately the blade is too thick to just add cheap thumb studs off Amazon.
I think the worst pocket clip has to be the stock spyderco clip. Automatically add 30$ to every single knife so you can get a decent clip that doesn’t snag on everything you get close to and rip your knife out of your pocket.
The biggest thing that had me return the livrwire and get the microtech is the tiny body screws and the tiny pocket clip. Also the blade felt really thin I didn’t like it
Ocd4edc has a bunch of aftermarket spyderco goodies. The cme makes the lick interface flush with the scales and let's you forget the nub was even there. Or you can hack the blade up. I'd prefer spending the 5 bucks. @@DXSharpening
It's funny watching you wearing gloves and complaining that the MSI's opening hole makes it hard to open for you, and that the Amphibian is perfect, because I don't wear gloves, but DO have nails, and I love the Amphibian to death, but so wish it had the MSI's opening hole, because that is perfect for me, and the Amphibian is awkward for me to operate. I have to get my hand and fingers in just the right spot to pull it off without breaking a nail, while the MSI is just easy all day, every time, without a thought.
Spyderco's are boring, ugly and overpriced but they are reliable and very well made. Don't even get me started on Benchmade because they are hot garbage. The 3 knives I recommend to people are the Kershaw Bel Air, Hogue Deka and Kershaw Livewire, if carrying automatics where the person lives is legal. Nice list btw!
The Toor knife is designed for diving and those serrations serve a purpose and are functional for underwater tasks. If you dive, you'll know. If you've never dived, you're not in a position to criticize.
I fully admit i haven't dived and I am not a diver, however they are not serrations they are simply cuts in the blade that are not sharpened and I actually have tried to cut rope with them and it does not work -- i don't see how that would be any different underwater... If you are an experienced diver and have used a blade with unsharpened cuts in it I will happily trust your opinion over mine
Aren’t you just a cute little gatekeeper. Here’s a thought, why don’t you just explain why you think, or know, why toor designed that blade the way that they did and educate all of us?
First of all, what's with the gloves? Who wears gloves showing items? Where your thimb slips off the Livewire, its a you problem! Put a little pressure on it and it will work fine! It's got plenty of height and texture to it to work fine! And lastly I hate clips on folders! They're ugly and ruin the looks of a knife! They are called pocket knives, to be put "in" your pocket, not clipped to the pocket! My suggestion is to offer folders without a clip, for those of us that don't like them! 🤔👍
Man i feel the same way about the Shootout ! I absolutly love it one of the greatest work knife i have own. But the internal design is such a shame I am ok with the high price as long a the knife is durable. But the Shootout is not 🥲 unless they really fixed it or that after market remplacement parts can be found easly
Don't forget man.....everyone's definition of a "perfect knife"is going to be vastly different
The only perfect knife is the amphibian, there is no other acceptable answer sorry
The cuts in the blade on the first knife is wild. Makes no sense. Great video man!
Thanks for watching!
the gerber sheaths are designed for military personnel hence all the attachment points and such .
I would counter by saying Toor Knives are designed explicitly for tactical applications and have contracts with military/leo and have far fewer attachment points than the strongarm sheath
@@DXSharpening cant argue that point , just saying what the stuff is for.
Bro! The first knife you showed is called the Muff Diver! I would buy it just for the name. 😎
Ha, didn't realize it had another meaning in other countries' slang
@@DXSharpeningwhat presumably english speaking country are you from where it doesn’t have that slang meaning?
It might depend on how big the knife is I’m not sure but for the liner lock folders around 15:30, I have the same issue but a way around it is to move your thumb out of the way as soon as there’s motion then close it with the pointer finger. Eg: start with pressure on both back of the blade and the liner then as soon as you push the liner move thumb away and continue pushing on the back of the blade. Should work with those two you mentioned, feels a bit weird at first to close but you’ll get used to it.
I have got used to it over time, just wish it was a little more comfortable! Thanks for watching!
And on ALL Gerbers.. they have date codes somewhere on the blade..i have a couple strongarms.... and actually i love the sheath....i feel like the " FATAL FLAW " is the 420HC steel..imagine it in a better steel
I'm sure they could sell it in an upgraded steel (they might already with the camp version?) but I'm not really bothered by the budget steel especially if it's almost indestructible
I’m right there with you when you mentioned having a compression lock on the native 5. I have yet to buy one but just because I don’t like the lock up now. I just got a para 3 with awt scales and pocket clip and man is it sexy! The knife with awt scales and pocket clip during Black Friday was only 110 for the knife, and 70 for the scales and clip. 180 total and it’s more expensive now stock.
AWT makes pretty much any knife hard to beat, I have a hard time deciding between new scales or a new knife
I know it’s a bit thick behind the edge but I’d still think the 940 is perfect. Still my favorite after all these years.
A hard one to beat for sure
The 3 " things" on the sheaths..thats to go in between molle or pals webbing... on packs or vests
I understand the attachment points/variability I just don't think it's necessary
22:39…… why do you think I’m watching your RUclips channels lolol. I love looking like a knife obsessed person
Ha! Thanks for the support!
That forward choil on the shaman is everything!! so the bodacious doesn’t really make sense to me. (Unless it’s 10x cheaper)
Hey some people love it some people hate it, I'm probably somewhere in between
@@DXSharpening yeah it just fits my hand like a glove. The forward choil imo makes the shaman,para3, and mini praxis so comfortable choked up
@@DXSharpeningI'd definitely take the bodacious without the choil over the Shaman, the flaw is the price for a base spec USA Spyderco.
The MSI is such a great blade, also the Amphibian is excellent as well, I actually like the pocket clip😂. But you’re correct both of these blades could serve you for the rest of your life perfectly 👍
It's ok you don't have to lie about the pocket clip here
@@DXSharpening 🤣
I am designing a pocket clip for the kershaw livewire, I will send you one when I am done.
That's awesome, looking forward to seeing it!
No doubt you'll sell a lot of those
Please!! I love my livewire, but the clip situation sucks. It can be legitimately hard to get out of the pocket
my perfect knife is the new Kizer Hawk, awesome action awesome comfort and very good price
Not familiar with it, I'll check it out!
That was my carry today. Full DLC variant.
My perfect knife would be a buck 110 auto with A. A liner lock B. A button lock and a pocket clip. I would carry mine way more often as I need one handed operation for most uses. I agree with the issues on the gerber fixed blades. Love my strong arm but sheath could be better. And the issue with the principle is why I passed on it.
I agree with you, I wish they made a lighter but still robust 110 that was easier to operate with one hand
I edc that Case Marilla and keep the Kinsua in my rig as one of my backups. Those pocketclips are definitely annoying, but, they're quite capable knives. I need new pants anyway.
Super underrated knife, hoping someone makes an aftermarket clip for them!
The worst pocket clip of all time trophy will always go to the Microtech DOC flipper. I’ve had one for years and while it doesn’t affect my hand (lefty), it’s super sharp and highly ramped. Maybe one day I’ll grind it down, but it’s also a long discontinued model, so perhaps it’s best to keep it unmodified. 😅
Hadn't heard of that one before, looks like it has been discontinued for awhile!
I have a launch 16 and IMO it's 90% perfect until you try to press the button with gloves on or without looking directly at it. My callused thumb can't feel anything. With gloves on it's a paperweight because it's impossible to press the button with gloves on. It only needs to be 1-1.5 mm taller to be perfect. I adhered a silicone disc to the button and I love this knife now.
Some people hate the pocket clip but I don't have any issues with it.
Kershaw has been crushing it lately with some of their launch stuff
I just recently bought the microtech amphibian and your right the pocket clip is unusable in its shipped configuration it’s way too tight. I took a pair of pliers and bent it out just enough to where it’s raised to where you can get a piece of paper between the scales and the clip and it’s perfect that way.
I am about to try this, scared though because it might actually be the perfect knife afterwards and then I won't have anything to talk about
@ agreed. I really like mine, I have a couple benchmade bugouts in various trim levels and a zt 0562cf that I’ve been carrying for about a year but I’m really liking this amphibian. It’s a beast cutting cardboard and various things at work, but the first thing I did was bend that clip out.
@@joshhopper6109 played around with it for a minute and got it a little better, I'll have to try again when I have some more time but you're definitely onto something...
@ I took it really slow. Didn’t want to stretch it too far because you’d have to take it off and put it in a vice to bend it back.
Do you like protech??? There one of my all time favorites.... along with 60 million others lol
I have 2 protechs and love them both, not as familiar with them as I am with some other brands though
Good list. I've had the Strongarm on my list for a long time, but ended up going with a 1095 knife instead. Your thoughts on the flipper tab getting in the way is kind of the opposite of how I see it. I think the tab helps prevent people from having the blade guillotine their thumb when unlocking. Maybe it is just me, but my poor thumb has lots of scars from sharp knives dropping during unlock. I really like the MSI with serrations, but yeah, thumb opening is bad and unfortunately the blade is too thick to just add cheap thumb studs off Amazon.
The MSI is the best knife design of all time. All they need to do is make it in K390 with a decent heat treat and I would be done.
Slight spelling error of MSI > amphibian but I totally agree
I think the worst pocket clip has to be the stock spyderco clip. Automatically add 30$ to every single knife so you can get a decent clip that doesn’t snag on everything you get close to and rip your knife out of your pocket.
I honestly don't mind it that much, but I do know people have some strong opinions about it
Demko Shark Cub , can't think of a thing I'd change.
Not super familiar with the shark lock but hope to check them out one day!
The biggest thing that had me return the livrwire and get the microtech is the tiny body screws and the tiny pocket clip. Also the blade felt really thin I didn’t like it
Definitely fair criticisms of it, doesn't mean it's a bad knife though maybe just not for everyone!
Man i love the handle and price of the msi but almost everything about the blade shape id change
I wish they did some of the other models in polymer too
OCD for edc has the solution for the Shaman there called the CME
I'll have to check it out, i hadn't heard of it before
The fatal flaw on all production knives in my eyes is the unbelievably soft geat treat. There's no reason for any steel to be below 63 HRC
Maybe true!
Where I’m from MUF means a woman’s lady parts. I’m sure you can imagine what a MUF Diver is 😳.
Ha, had to look it up, hadn't heard that one before!
Cheers
Lol tell me how old you are..without telling me how old you are😊
Get a cme for the shaman and call it a day, sheesh
Cme?
@@DXSharpeningcompression made easy by ocd4edc
Aftermarket stuff. The nub annoys me too and I'm not ordering a mod to solve it
Ocd4edc has a bunch of aftermarket spyderco goodies. The cme makes the lick interface flush with the scales and let's you forget the nub was even there. Or you can hack the blade up. I'd prefer spending the 5 bucks. @@DXSharpening
If you don't know what a MUF DIVER is, you need a little education in old school.
I probably do ha
cold steel kiridashi
Not familiar, I'll have to check it out
Also.... I'm sorry.. I'm just very outspoken and very passionate about knives.. BUT i am new here!!!!! So please don't take me the wrong way
Don't apologize at all, thanks for watching and welcome!
It's funny watching you wearing gloves and complaining that the MSI's opening hole makes it hard to open for you, and that the Amphibian is perfect, because I don't wear gloves, but DO have nails, and I love the Amphibian to death, but so wish it had the MSI's opening hole, because that is perfect for me, and the Amphibian is awkward for me to operate. I have to get my hand and fingers in just the right spot to pull it off without breaking a nail, while the MSI is just easy all day, every time, without a thought.
Spyderco's are boring, ugly and overpriced but they are reliable and very well made. Don't even get me started on Benchmade because they are hot garbage. The 3 knives I recommend to people are the Kershaw Bel Air, Hogue Deka and Kershaw Livewire, if carrying automatics where the person lives is legal. Nice list btw!
I'm really interested in the bel air, glad to hear you're a fan of it!
The Toor knife is designed for diving and those serrations serve a purpose and are functional for underwater tasks. If you dive, you'll know. If you've never dived, you're not in a position to criticize.
I fully admit i haven't dived and I am not a diver, however they are not serrations they are simply cuts in the blade that are not sharpened and I actually have tried to cut rope with them and it does not work -- i don't see how that would be any different underwater...
If you are an experienced diver and have used a blade with unsharpened cuts in it I will happily trust your opinion over mine
Aren’t you just a cute little gatekeeper. Here’s a thought, why don’t you just explain why you think, or know, why toor designed that blade the way that they did and educate all of us?
Adamas is the only great BM
I really like the adamas lineup and the 940
And do you ever do lives??? The knife community REALLY loves lives!!!!! Just an idea
I don't right now, perhaps in the future...
First of all, what's with the gloves? Who wears gloves showing items? Where your thimb slips off the Livewire, its a you problem! Put a little pressure on it and it will work fine! It's got plenty of height and texture to it to work fine! And lastly I hate clips on folders! They're ugly and ruin the looks of a knife! They are called pocket knives, to be put "in" your pocket, not clipped to the pocket! My suggestion is to offer folders without a clip, for those of us that don't like them! 🤔👍
Pocket clips seem to be popular right now, I'm with you I tend to prefer not having one
"Near Perfect Knives"
*lists off knives with major flaws*
Lists potential improvements to make them perfect lol
Frame and liner locks are trash
What's your favorite lock?
@DXSharpening the classic lockback, my work knife is an Atlantic Salt. I've used that thing like a chisel never had an issue
@@lanceschustereit1896 fair enough, I would probably tend to agree with you
Man i feel the same way about the Shootout !
I absolutly love it one of the greatest work knife i have own.
But the internal design is such a shame
I am ok with the high price as long a the knife is durable.
But the Shootout is not 🥲 unless they really fixed it or that after market remplacement parts can be found easly
I'll have to test out the replaced internals and let you know if they hold up, thanks for watching!
@ i would look forward any news about the update internal
If it’s durable and better well I would but one back.
@@ridedingo2497 will keep you posted 👍