Why 1st Form Frieza, Cell and Baby is their STRONGEST form

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  • Опубликовано: 21 янв 2025

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  • @MellowMan339
    @MellowMan339 3 месяца назад +1906

    “Check out my perfect form, it’s perfect!” The writing man 😂

    • @xerlius
      @xerlius 3 месяца назад +246

      I didn’t like that line at first, but it’s grown on me lmao.

    • @Pocket_Kingss
      @Pocket_Kingss 3 месяца назад +13

      @@xerliusbum

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 2 месяца назад +154

      The whole character was built around being aggresively redundant, obvious and talking too much. He managed to be so obnoxious with the stupid little dialogue on the ultimate and he barely says anything

    • @12ww37
      @12ww37 2 месяца назад +83

      Sometimes in life you feel like Cell (Perfect Form) and other times you feel like Perfect Cell

    • @D-Ender2
      @D-Ender2 2 месяца назад +63

      It feels like TFS write that dialogue for the funny

  • @monkeyboys3240
    @monkeyboys3240 3 месяца назад +543

    If you stay in semi perfect Cell form, you can gain more health. In sparking mode, you have enough time to combo into two life drains. Go sparking mode, get them in knock away, use life drain, at the end of the animation spam life drain again and it should combo. This will net you a bar and some change everytime and it’s the perfect counter to senzu bean spam

    • @bloominninja
      @bloominninja 2 месяца назад +46

      Ah yes, the yajirobe snack machine combo

    • @benoliver5593
      @benoliver5593 2 месяца назад +7

      ​@bloominninja my brother didn't believe me till I trapped him in s lifestyle combo

    • @bloominninja
      @bloominninja 2 месяца назад +5

      @@benoliver5593 punch the yajirobe vending machine for that bonus health :D

  • @keiishere511
    @keiishere511 2 месяца назад +212

    1:07 absolute cinema writing

    • @Pablo-4048
      @Pablo-4048 2 месяца назад +36

      It fucking kills me how he delivered it too
      He sounded like he was at the verge of laughter

  • @GlaZim
    @GlaZim 2 месяца назад +400

    0:35 *ONE HUNDRED PERCE-* oof

  • @foxtrotzekeyy
    @foxtrotzekeyy 2 месяца назад +162

    going from first form to second form on Frieza is amazing. I love the way he screams, like it's straining him and hurting him.

    • @mervinantoinesaurty4733
      @mervinantoinesaurty4733 2 месяца назад +26

      Of course it must be hurting cause bros head was about to explode during the transformation 🤣🤣

    • @AsobiMedio
      @AsobiMedio 2 месяца назад +3

      Bro's stretching both physically and spiritually. I imagine his first form has got to be like compressing himself into a tiny set of clothes, and every transformation after is the equivalent of loosening up the belt.

  • @CrimePaint
    @CrimePaint 2 месяца назад +944

    it sure was nice of Goku to allow all these other characters to be in the new Goku Game.

    • @ShiryuInTime
      @ShiryuInTime 2 месяца назад +53

      *hahahahahahaha i play dragon ball legends and i feel this too, Goku Ball Legends*

    • @Theshawnusgames
      @Theshawnusgames 2 месяца назад

      It's lore-accurate. Goku is the biggest selfish dick in the universe.

    • @charmandurr4dayzzz924
      @charmandurr4dayzzz924 2 месяца назад +34

      @@ShiryuInTime erm for a while it was gohan ball legends

    • @Jackson-hv8ky
      @Jackson-hv8ky 2 месяца назад +7

      Nah it should a Frieza game

    • @bigbosspanda1976
      @bigbosspanda1976 2 месяца назад +5

      @@charmandurr4dayzzz924it still is Gohan Ball Legends.

  • @kenmodo
    @kenmodo 3 месяца назад +227

    16:00 that yajirobe dash attack does work against giants, it deals unblockable damage, about 7k and it's very spamable. You couldn't see it since your health bar didn't load in yet but it's yajirobe's greatest button against giants.

    • @Chocolate_coin865
      @Chocolate_coin865 2 месяца назад +28

      it would be cool if you can turn great apes back to normal with yajirobe’s dash attack

  • @SalamiCellar
    @SalamiCellar 2 месяца назад +66

    Cell is hilarious, he definitely shouldve became an ally like piccolo or something, dude loves bbws

  • @joelredpath7594
    @joelredpath7594 3 месяца назад +110

    Another thing to point out with cell I believe 1st and 2nd from cells grab also heals him a little bit.

    • @jordimatthews4853
      @jordimatthews4853 3 месяца назад +16

      They steal 3k health and 1 bar of ki

    • @BrandonLung
      @BrandonLung 2 месяца назад +10

      1st form's cell ult heals, and 2nd form cell rush skill heals

    • @migojio
      @migojio 2 месяца назад +3

      Dont forget that it can also force people out of sparking mode

    • @BrandonLung
      @BrandonLung 2 месяца назад

      @@migojio wait fr?

  • @123jolak
    @123jolak 2 месяца назад +33

    This is the reason why so many fights in DBZ start with first form goku. He's just saving DP

  • @masterfarr8265
    @masterfarr8265 2 месяца назад +28

    0:17 I think Ridley Scott’s gonna sue somebody.

    • @mortadaisprettyepic
      @mortadaisprettyepic 2 месяца назад +7

      You have successfully made my day because of that tfs reference

  • @monkeyman123321
    @monkeyman123321 2 месяца назад +21

    I love how he explains how to play the team, and then fumbles it in the example match.

  • @jaquilies
    @jaquilies 2 месяца назад +30

    Now that I've figured out the Buggy from One Piece and Baby have the same English VA I can never take Baby players seriously

  • @tommydummy4873
    @tommydummy4873 3 месяца назад +246

    sometimes I forgot this guy made league videos

    • @robertdyer339
      @robertdyer339 3 месяца назад +2

      You forgot about fighter z

    • @malekk_99
      @malekk_99 3 месяца назад +6

      You should have not reminded us

    • @nlm7033
      @nlm7033 3 месяца назад +6

      You'd have to be an OG to remember the league vids

    • @mjay6245
      @mjay6245 3 месяца назад +1

      The ADHD all makes sense now 😂

    • @Attackle
      @Attackle 2 месяца назад +1

      "Legends always die" was his biggest hit 😂

  • @kenmodo
    @kenmodo 3 месяца назад +36

    11:10 cell is stronger than you're showing, his grabs and dash super heal you so it's a great character to slow your opponents roll

  • @yardenl1998
    @yardenl1998 2 месяца назад +6

    Transformations are sooo much fun. Just to see a playable playstyle of this strategy is pure joy

  • @KarmicID
    @KarmicID 2 месяца назад +9

    "100 PER- OUCH !"

  • @Admiralkirk95
    @Admiralkirk95 3 месяца назад +19

    Ya this is some old techs from the last game too. Especially since I think damage was a little lower back that one. So 5k health went a bit further than this game.
    But if you want a very cheesy team. Go Android 19 and 20, then go Cell base form/2nd form, and yajirobe. Both the androids have energy depleting grabs. In particular 19 can use false courage to brick wall through an opponent to get the grab off. And both have healing ultimates.
    Cell 1st and 2nd form both have healing grabs and healing ultimates. And yajirobe has his sensu bean. it's cheesy as hell but winning by time out and health is perfectly viable with this strat.

  • @ernimuja6991
    @ernimuja6991 3 месяца назад +15

    Tested it yesterday, Frieza second form deals the most damage in a combo.

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian 2 месяца назад +2

      Apparently his combo game sucks despite that.

  • @dil07419
    @dil07419 2 месяца назад +62

    0:29 PREPARE THYSELF 🗣️🗣️🔥

  • @CasualRacerRed
    @CasualRacerRed 15 дней назад +1

    this video pretty much explains why so many people pick Base Goku

  • @tchinen9023
    @tchinen9023 2 месяца назад +2

    Hey, little advice, transforming resets the swap character timing, so you should swap characters first so that they can heal while in the bench and earn skill points with the another and once you are back with that character transform so you can maximize your hp gain
    Edit: when a character is the bench they will heal about 1 health bar in the span of ~40 seconds

  • @willbermudez2386
    @willbermudez2386 3 месяца назад +108

    This is not news. In Tenkaishi franchise, when you transformed, you also gained health. When you fusion into vegito, gogeta or gotenks, normally the health of the two saijans combined and you had insane blue healths bars back then (when you had extra health bars it was blue color all the extra bars). The strategy wad increasing the health of goku ssj4 and vegeta ssj4 and combine then in the match because gogeta ssj4 was the best character, plus all the health you gained combining them, basically was a secured win back then.

    • @thelolhounds2.0
      @thelolhounds2.0  3 месяца назад +32

      @@willbermudez2386 The saiyans don't gain health when they transform. Only a select few characters

    • @GanguroKonata
      @GanguroKonata 3 месяца назад +13

      Damn bro, you remember tech from games that came out over a decade ago

    • @ImYogotDamnDaddy
      @ImYogotDamnDaddy 3 месяца назад

      *sick of all the ( in the old tenkaishi games they used to comments ) like there aren’t hella ( new ) ppl also wanting to learn this game* 🫨👎🏾

    • @ImYogotDamnDaddy
      @ImYogotDamnDaddy 3 месяца назад

      Or they’ll be like ( the rEaL Go’s play clASSic ) 😂

    • @ImYogotDamnDaddy
      @ImYogotDamnDaddy 3 месяца назад

      Taking my comments lame 😒

  • @thatonedragoondude8228
    @thatonedragoondude8228 2 месяца назад +5

    This used to be hella op in Butokai Tenkaichi series cuz I’m sure it would at least give you a whole health bar and restores some ki(I played the wii version)

  • @ernimuja6991
    @ernimuja6991 3 месяца назад +30

    Don’t ki spam a Yajirobe, each deflect grants skill points.

    • @dokutah7374
      @dokutah7374 2 месяца назад +12

      Or
      Just don’t ki spam unless you are a Vegeta character for lore purposes

    • @trashpanda003
      @trashpanda003 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@dokutah7374 or if you're playing zamasu and want to activate ppls ptsd from story mode

    • @drewdabrew4745
      @drewdabrew4745 2 месяца назад +1

      So does the vanish wars . One reason to just take the vanish combo or try and super counter instead .

  • @IgnisWings
    @IgnisWings 3 месяца назад +16

    fills me with such a sense of nostalgia to see the Team Battle strat for Cell and Frieza are very similar to BT3

  • @gunrunners5283
    @gunrunners5283 2 месяца назад +3

    Cells 1st and 2nd form ultimates are great. In team dp battles. Hit somebody with your self destruct then swap out to another character before they can hit you. Doing this lets him heal a bit. You could also use his rush super which can give him back some health. Both 1st snd 2nd form can gain health back but 1st forms ult gives back a bunch. Not to mention they both get solar flare

  • @Green13Gaming
    @Green13Gaming 2 месяца назад +5

    First form cell has ways of healing without transforming, he’s pretty solid at base

  • @ProtomanButCallMeBlues
    @ProtomanButCallMeBlues 2 месяца назад +2

    In the old Tenkaichi games the upside was always the health boost. I remember people would even power down with characters like Cooler to the original form just so they can power up again

  • @meko2812
    @meko2812 2 месяца назад +4

    oh god there might be Yajirobe Stall teams that jus heal infinitely until you are fully worn out then use Frieza to infinite heal while getting stronger with more powerful forms holy moly

  • @cloudshifter
    @cloudshifter 2 месяца назад +5

    Second form Frieza is actually his worst because ki blast is not available in his combos, a move that can push back opponents mid combo to utilize movement techs to get behind your enemy if you're having problems opening them up. Same goes for full power.

  • @caramel7149
    @caramel7149 2 месяца назад +5

    i thought perhaps first form frieza would have normals or specials with different timings making him technically better if underpowered.

  • @HerosTheme
    @HerosTheme 2 месяца назад +5

    Just happy tapion got into the game

  • @Pablo-4048
    @Pablo-4048 2 месяца назад +1

    1:13
    " Check out my perfect form, its *perfect.* "
    This shit kills me bruh

  • @rsho3472
    @rsho3472 2 месяца назад +15

    In BT3 you got an entire bar with Frieza transformations... Oh the nerfs. (Supposedly unbalance game making balance changes to all characters exept the fussions)

    • @oniuserjh
      @oniuserjh 2 месяца назад +3

      i liked his 3rd from bt3 more as well

  • @grizzlytalisman
    @grizzlytalisman 2 месяца назад +2

    I love playing as King Cold, Cooler, and Frieza in ranked

  • @greencomet2011
    @greencomet2011 3 месяца назад +3

    Seeing Freeza swell up to his 2nd form with the armor looks cursed.
    They could have at least animated the armor breaking it, instead of straight up disappearing.

  • @Lajakill
    @Lajakill 3 месяца назад +3

    Need more of this my guy.

  • @Datcassanova5
    @Datcassanova5 2 месяца назад +5

    I think one of the brolys has a triple unblockable ult using a similar method lmao

  • @epykepyk1156
    @epykepyk1156 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m a huge fan of second form easily because people never expect what I do with them. I’m not some Master but I’m pretty damn good. And that ultimate is so brutal. Takes two bars too

  • @Connor_Kirkpatrick
    @Connor_Kirkpatrick 2 месяца назад +1

    Cell seems VERY good. He gets health drain on the lower transformations, health buffs as he powers up, and has a great toolkit once Perfect. He just stays alive forever

  • @GrandHenchman
    @GrandHenchman 2 месяца назад

    I remember this same mechanic being the same in tenkaichi 3. I believe you needed to finish the cellgames tournament on the hardest difficulty to unlock either king vegeta or king cold (I can't quite remember). Issue was in that game mode your health would carry over in the matches, but the AI would be at full health. I remember cheesing it by choosing first form frieza and then spamming the transformations right as the match would end to regain as much health as possible.
    I have such fond memories of that game, what i would give to go back in time and play it again with my little brother on our old ps2.

  • @ElAndoro
    @ElAndoro 2 месяца назад +1

    I love Yajirobe. It is funny af when he manages to eat a sensu

  • @ImmortalDraylo
    @ImmortalDraylo 2 месяца назад +3

    With each transformation my strength becomes much stronger

  • @Electralmoon
    @Electralmoon 3 месяца назад +5

    don't forget imperfect cells ult heals him like 1 bar and a half

  • @benoliver5593
    @benoliver5593 2 месяца назад +2

    I wish they added a way to go to golden freiza from his base form

  • @kenmodo
    @kenmodo 3 месяца назад +2

    also, in sparking (a new mechanic) but you can use a super without using the rest of your sparking bar if you have more than the cost and then use your ultimate.

  • @Vectorbro
    @Vectorbro 2 месяца назад +1

    Didn't even realize who it was till this dude spoke it's been a century and a half

  • @chespinpoggers1337
    @chespinpoggers1337 2 месяца назад

    For what it's worth, if you like playing more of a powerhouse character, both Broly's restore all of their ki upon transforming as well. Final form Z Broly also has an unblockable ultimate attack Im unsure as to health gain however
    Syn Shenron also gains all of his Ki upon transforming, but he also gains a 4 ki bar move that is an instant attack similar to Hit's

  • @personb9034
    @personb9034 2 месяца назад

    I thought the same until i realized that transforming resets switch meter, which makes those transformations actually bad because switching out is simply better. Restores an entire bar and its free.

  • @dunstik8842
    @dunstik8842 2 месяца назад

    I'm not sure if Sparking Zero has this mechanic but previous games had the mechanic that if you start in a lower form and transform into a higher form you'll get a bigger stat buff then just starting out in the higher form. I assume to reward the player for taking the time to transform and burning a bar. If it's a mechanic in this game as well, more benefit.

  • @malonejohnson3356
    @malonejohnson3356 3 месяца назад +5

    Use cell form #1 life drain ... then transform .

  • @euroanez998
    @euroanez998 2 месяца назад +1

    I used to do this in the old Bodukai Tenkaichi 3

  • @pietrosmusi6730
    @pietrosmusi6730 2 месяца назад +1

    Counter argument: grate ape vegeta and unbloccable saucers

  • @whodle7232
    @whodle7232 3 месяца назад +25

    Up the DragonBall content

  • @fantasmicfuzzysock
    @fantasmicfuzzysock 2 месяца назад

    If you switch out between characters and recover after building skill bars with each one they live forever

  • @miguelisaurusbruh1158
    @miguelisaurusbruh1158 2 месяца назад

    Its funny how there's just a spare amdroid 17 and 18 somewhere over there waiting to be absorbed by cell

  • @Flinxmin
    @Flinxmin Месяц назад

    "Witness my perfect form, which is so perfectly perfect!... per-fect..." -Cell probably lol

  • @reesewhittington6778
    @reesewhittington6778 2 месяца назад

    Well, yeah, they kinda are, because you can just upgrade into the other forms when necessary. If it's like BT3, you also get a health boost when doing so.

  • @albatross092
    @albatross092 2 месяца назад

    imagine second form cell said "check out my second form, its second"

  • @lynell2B375
    @lynell2B375 2 месяца назад

    "check out my perfect form, it's perfect"
    did someone from tfs sneaked their way to the writers?

  • @fancyhermit7
    @fancyhermit7 3 месяца назад +4

    So with each transformation you get health regeneration

    • @toxicceoofcharisma
      @toxicceoofcharisma 3 месяца назад +2

      Seems to be only freeza, cell, and broly from wyat ive seen

  • @LokiBeckonswow
    @LokiBeckonswow 2 месяца назад

    tldr when you start in base forms you get health back when transforming up

  • @dbzbrucelee2778
    @dbzbrucelee2778 2 месяца назад

    only 1 thing bro is that you reset the switch count when transforming so you are stuck for another 25 seconds

  • @sergnio
    @sergnio 2 месяца назад

    you didn’t take into account lower defense stats, which might easily be worth more than half a health bar to not lose as much health when you’re being comboed

  • @CooperThethird-q9b
    @CooperThethird-q9b 2 месяца назад

    0:36 “100 PERC-“

  • @backupmephone85
    @backupmephone85 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm surprised they didn't add golden frieza

    • @xanderlaskey2753
      @xanderlaskey2753 2 месяца назад

      They did but you have to play a different version

  • @Eli-vated
    @Eli-vated 2 месяца назад

    Something you missed is a perfect cell that transformed into perfect cell size more damage then base perfect cell

    • @Eli-vated
      @Eli-vated 2 месяца назад

      Same with all transformations

  • @ark8787
    @ark8787 2 месяца назад

    it would be 10 transformations overall, if they would let you become super perfect cell from perfect cell.

  • @browhatfrthatscrazybrobruh6991
    @browhatfrthatscrazybrobruh6991 2 месяца назад

    Real tutorial from jeice

  • @Orsabell
    @Orsabell 2 месяца назад

    You can play with 2 metal coolers and 1 yajirobe if you want the heal team.

    • @personb9034
      @personb9034 2 месяца назад

      You may need to practice counting more

  • @ThatSaiyanBroly_400
    @ThatSaiyanBroly_400 2 месяца назад

    wait, make a tutorial on how to get better on PC. i see your playing on pc, and it intrigued me

  • @mnaouares1034
    @mnaouares1034 2 месяца назад

    i mean when u transform in fight with everycharacter u get a boost of stats more than if u just pick the character transformed

  • @EvilLordCanas
    @EvilLordCanas 2 месяца назад +5

    Am I the only one who's confused about Cell losing his wings in his 2nd form but regaining them in the 3rd one? What was the point of all that?

    • @davidarredondo2017
      @davidarredondo2017 2 месяца назад +2

      Goes from bug to pre-chrysalis then Perfect form

    • @personb9034
      @personb9034 2 месяца назад +2

      Toriyami couldn't make up his mind with the designs. He never planned anything lol

  • @lightsofdeath5590
    @lightsofdeath5590 2 месяца назад

    me when he dosent use one of the few characters moves that can heal with the press of a button or grab

  • @simplyusef
    @simplyusef 2 месяца назад

    i have a question.... is HJdoogan and thelolhounds the same person but different channels and different games? they sound so much alike

  • @LILREMAlNS
    @LILREMAlNS 2 месяца назад

    how do you find south african games on ranked? or online in general?

  • @cheekynandos5888
    @cheekynandos5888 3 месяца назад +2

    I think he doesn't like afterimage users

  • @ktg194
    @ktg194 2 месяца назад

    Cave man discovers fire

  • @Deadeye4066
    @Deadeye4066 2 месяца назад

    Because Baby Vegeta ultimate is Final Flash and he scream BIG BANG ATTACK

  • @marioneta7892
    @marioneta7892 2 месяца назад

    Final form Frieza: "ONE HUNDRED POR-UUUGH" 🗣🗣🔉🔉

  • @mateocortanage
    @mateocortanage 2 месяца назад

    Health, it's health

  • @justbronson7570
    @justbronson7570 2 месяца назад

    if someone lets the person they're fighting do all these transformations, the truly deserved that loss

    • @xanderlaskey2753
      @xanderlaskey2753 2 месяца назад

      There’s literally no way to stop someone from transforming unless the person transforming is literally worst player

  • @Meatslap
    @Meatslap 2 месяца назад

    Good players will diginyou and not let you transform

  • @ImmortalDraylo
    @ImmortalDraylo 2 месяца назад

    This has been my go to since day 1. First I love frieza 1st form since I was a kid, thought he was so cool. The same for first form cell. Then you get literally 7 characters and different play styles with just cell and frieza. The only part that sucks is that second and third form frieza kinda suck. They are super slow and even charge ki slowly. They all shot ki blasts very fast though.
    Second form cell sucks really, but first is the best with his grab drains

  • @Deluxo-Sauce-God
    @Deluxo-Sauce-God 2 месяца назад

    How to stall and play defense. This is why I don't play DP. At least in single battle they can't rely on stalling and have to play aggressively

  • @trinityskitz7929
    @trinityskitz7929 2 месяца назад

    bro fumbled so hard with cell

  • @Kdotmessi
    @Kdotmessi 2 месяца назад

    I use this same exact team in dbfz. Absolutely busted.

  • @Diamond-v9
    @Diamond-v9 2 месяца назад

    Once I get SP! Zero, my characters are gonna be Yajirobe, Imperfect Cell and MUI Goku (or Whis). That'd be so annoying lmfao

  • @waylontfd3076
    @waylontfd3076 2 месяца назад

    If you lower form and then transform again, does it heal you again? (Like 3 to 2 back to 3)

  • @JoshEastham
    @JoshEastham 2 месяца назад +1

    You basically get 6 characters or is it 8 even

  • @indominusrex2859
    @indominusrex2859 2 месяца назад +1

    And they're also stronger I you manually transform

  • @tapsofosiris3110
    @tapsofosiris3110 2 месяца назад

    Playing Sparking Zero on Keyboard is crazy work. I shuddered. Not kidding that shit is wack.

  • @thedevilsleutice
    @thedevilsleutice 2 месяца назад

    So I actually do this with Zamasu as well.

  • @ricardomatos5990
    @ricardomatos5990 2 месяца назад

    says a lot if you need to heal that much

  • @doeboydavis7643
    @doeboydavis7643 2 месяца назад +6

    This game is so cool but those vanishing battles are probably the lamest part of every fight

  • @Vince_the_simpy
    @Vince_the_simpy 2 месяца назад

    Ok what the hell...
    Third form Frieza had the worst transformation
    But has the most badass voices

  • @BeanHoopz
    @BeanHoopz 2 месяца назад

    check out my perfect form, it’s perfect ! my favorite line in the game

  • @onyx6774
    @onyx6774 3 месяца назад +1

    And not only it regens it also gives more benefits to your stats.
    Example transforming into second form frieza mid match is stronger than simply picking second form frieza in the character select screen.

  • @harrisondalrymple6053
    @harrisondalrymple6053 2 месяца назад

    video starts at 1:18