The fact that they made you root for Walter and then you realize that after defeating Gus, the only great threat is Walter, He went from a harmless and innocent teacher to slowly losing his kind heart and molding it into a cold and manipulative socipath
Hearing Hank say Walter bombed a nursing home really cleared my head from the walter dick riding i was doing, i just realized "oh shit he didn't just kill gus, so many people could've died"
RIP Akira Toriyama, the creator of Dragon Ball 🥀. Vegeta was a goated character, he knew how to write great characters. His legacy will be forever remembered.
I'll be honest, I'm not sure if Vegeta really deserved his character change. Like, after Namik, he was still evil, just holding off on it. And somehow through fighting, he became a good person? He's still a great character no doubt. But he ain't no Zuko. 😊
@@NoHandle44did u watch the show? I understand but his development makes sense see his pride and ego whenever he gets stronger and gets shattered, he only starts caring after trunks almost gets killed,he actually realises he has a family to protect, and gokus sacrifices and gohans ssj2 makes him question his saiyan nature,the last arc he misses his power and gets it back and we see his will power to fight golu and his ever consuming ego, he fights off the evil and gives his attonement of sacrifice, not the best but u see exactly how he changes
@@MaymunEjaz I mean, yeah he does change. But it also kinda seems like he has his self reflection when there's a bigger problem at the moment. Like a, "Well I'm evil, but this jelly bean is gonna destroy my family that I just remembered I had. Better kamikaze myself". And him getting humbled by Goku would've been a good start to his growth, if he didn't constantly relapse like every other arc. I want to like his atonement, but it's kinda difficult with how flawed it is.
While Ice King aka Simon didn’t have much of an arc in the original show, I will attest that the IK has one of the most shocking reveals off all time. He went from a wacky, kidnapping ice wizard, to the most sad character in the entire show.
Walter’s personality was so abrupt that you have to believe that it was ALWAYS there. Had he stayed at Gray Matter, he would have become a ruthless ceo. The money, power, and recognition would have been too much to keep his ego in check.
Speaking of Walter having the audacity to cry, Bryan Cranston did a good job there with the crying because he saw Kristen Ritter (actress of Jane) look dead and in that moment, Bryan saw the face of his own daughter in that exact same dead position. It haunted him so much to the point where he needed a powerful reminder from Anna Gun (actress of Skyler) that none of it was real. Terrible for Byran there. But I'll admit, VERY GOOD ACTING.
Holy shi- BrBa actors got it rough during productions man! Like i remember seeing a post talking about how skyler can't have social media cause of the internet and her acting to whine walt left the house, and I'd get that in some AMAZING shows, but TWICE!? In ONE show!? Holy- this makes me love brba more, brba also had the part where the baby was calling for it's mom and bryan went along with it, like yooo making brba seems like you not only need phenomenal acting skills but need to have a therapist on stand by 😂
Stanley Pines, Simon Petrokov, Magneto, Rigby, Hawkgirl, and of course Zuko were the characters from my childhood cartoons who had some of the best changes.
One of my favorites was Ahsoka Tano. She was so insufferable at the start of Clone Wars, but come the end of the show, she was one of the most respectable and selfless characters in the franchise
I think what makes these arcs so great is how the writers are very honest about the characters' situations. We are shown every step to their change in painstaking detail. Ugly parts and all. Which is what makes the conclusion to their arcs so satisfying.
You forgot that not just the whole "Jane wasn't good for Jesse", but she quite literally threatened to END Walt, also putting his whole family into the pit...
I honestly WOULDN'T say DBS ruined Vegeta's character, it's a topic that comes up every time DBS and Vegeta are mentioned. People usually say DBS retconned Vegeta because he went back on his Buu Saga development. But the developments aren't the same. In the Buu Saga, Vegeta puts down his life long grudge of revenge against Goku, he's not orienting his entire life around beating Goku anymore. In Super, yes, he still wants to beat Goku, but it's as a regular martial artist and a prince and wanting to be the best he can be, he just didn't lose interest in fighting and retire like half the cast. But you can see the difference when he skips out on training to with his family, like when Bulma was going to give birth.
Glad someone understands that. I've seen too many people say Super ruined Vegeta when the "You're number one" speech didn't mean I don't want to surpass you anymore
Yea i literally hate super but even a blind man can see super went there rite direction with Vegeta an his character development now goku whole nother topic
Debatable. The whole point of Vegeta Buu Saga was being able to overcome his ego. And in Super he literally need to go back to super over inflated ego to power up.
@@CaptainPangolin True, but he couldn't fully go through with it he said it himself he couldn't be the man he used to be anymore before Granolah was going to unleash that attack at Vegeta
@@jsemicolona Well, even before that with his Ultra Blue Super Sayan (I don't know the name. The bullshit power up he got from wanking himself "I'm dah fucking sayan prince !")
I can't believe Derek actually talked about something I fully knew about. I watched The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra this year (i play fortnite) and Zuko actually grew to become my favorite character, because of his backstory and the way he redeemed himself and helped the Avatar restore balance to the world. (and moon-rizzer sokka)
What makes Zuko's character development feel more human and real was that "relapse" when he chose to side with Azula. When you're recovering you aren't throwing off all bad things at once. There were still traces of that old Zuko because the change was gradual.
Thorfinn has by far the best character development. Goes from an innocent little boy to a stone cold mass murderer who can compete with the strongest killers then he becomes a slave and then becomes a peaceful man who wants people to stop fighting
I think 1 thing needs to be understood, character progression =/= character development. Static characters can have great character development Ex. The joker or batman, they're fairly static characters, but the development is from the exploration of how they would respond in different situations. Development = exploring how characters respond to different things, and gaining further insight on their thoughs, ideas, purpose, objectives etc progression = how a character changes through time It just so happens to be the case that in many cases development co-incides with progression (as shown here)
You said well. Vegeta has a minimum of character development, but a lot of janky character progression. And that is why the vegeta character is shallow and wide. Walter has both in detail, well done. Just ridiculous this guy put vegeta over Guts into the list.
@@dentangaji6161 depends on the character. Again with the joker from Batman for example, it’s development. With someone like zuko from avatar, his progression was fascinating (his development was great too)
If we’re talking about Vegatas character development let’s not forget the man’s complete growth in GT. The man loves humans now and calls Kakarot Goku.. he’s also laughing and doing father daughter bonding and hoursing around with goten and trunks.
Finn, the Human is one of the best characters I've ever met, I loved to see that kid grow, make mistakes, learn from them, mature and become a true Hero, I felt proud of him
wdym super was peak too, go see top arc and black goku arc his lines in that are pure godly and in recent chapters man is feeling guilty for his previous actions and thats a huge leap , he is actually chill these days too like after winning against goku he doesn't go on full sicko mode or anything just make fun with goku 🚶♂️🤷♂️
Arthur Morgan, the man who started as a outlaw, gradually trying to become a better man through his tuberculosis. you can see the struggles of the things he has done and the ones he's about to do, and how he decided to pile them away and kept trying to have a new life. this isn't just a character develpoment anymore, through arthur, we can see the final effort of life trying to make it's last effort doing something. we can see how something so catastrophic can change a man's life forever. we can see everything a man had buildt in his life, only crumbled into dust and ashes by the harsh hammer of rality. but, that's just the way it is. the lesson we learnt only to be forgot, the buildings we made only just to burn. that's the way it is. Derek, i'm not sure if you can see this. but please, make this comment become visible by everyone with ease, thank you.
Another good one is Steve from stranger things. He started off all in nancys pants, but now he sacrificed his life 5 times to save the kids in the show
Reverse Character Arcs can also be really great, because it makes you look at characters in different perspectives, like Pink Diamond from Steven Universe.
You sir have earned a sub also I hate that it seems like characters no longer get development any more it’s just here’s the character now watch the action. I think at least in my opinion it’s why I can’t watch newer western shows there’s no character development any more
I feel like majin Vegeta was able to resist not because he became good but the urge for a Saiyan to fight stronger opponent out weighed his hate for Goku.
The thing that’s craziest to me about Zuko’s journey, is how quickly his hair grew in less then a year.
Strawberry mint growth oil fr
@@isaiah9104 LMAOOO
Nah, what was crazy was how they let him have that cut in s1😭
the development of his hair was the greatest development of all time lol
yet still gradual
The fact that they made you root for Walter and then you realize that after defeating Gus, the only great threat is Walter, He went from a harmless and innocent teacher to slowly losing his kind heart and molding it into a cold and manipulative socipath
Hearing Hank say Walter bombed a nursing home really cleared my head from the walter dick riding i was doing, i just realized "oh shit he didn't just kill gus, so many people could've died"
A man can only take so much,bro but jesse😢
You were rooting for him after he let Jane die?
@@VitaminDealerNah but still better than Gus
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RIP Akira Toriyama, the creator of Dragon Ball 🥀. Vegeta was a goated character, he knew how to write great characters. His legacy will be forever remembered.
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I'll be honest, I'm not sure if Vegeta really deserved his character change. Like, after Namik, he was still evil, just holding off on it. And somehow through fighting, he became a good person? He's still a great character no doubt. But he ain't no Zuko. 😊
@@NoHandle44did u watch the show? I understand but his development makes sense see his pride and ego whenever he gets stronger and gets shattered, he only starts caring after trunks almost gets killed,he actually realises he has a family to protect, and gokus sacrifices and gohans ssj2 makes him question his saiyan nature,the last arc he misses his power and gets it back and we see his will power to fight golu and his ever consuming ego, he fights off the evil and gives his attonement of sacrifice, not the best but u see exactly how he changes
@@MaymunEjaz I mean, yeah he does change. But it also kinda seems like he has his self reflection when there's a bigger problem at the moment. Like a, "Well I'm evil, but this jelly bean is gonna destroy my family that I just remembered I had. Better kamikaze myself". And him getting humbled by Goku would've been a good start to his growth, if he didn't constantly relapse like every other arc.
I want to like his atonement, but it's kinda difficult with how flawed it is.
the zuko arc is extremely abbreviated here you really have to watch it to see it
zuko arc was inspirational
best character development imo
Naw, it's pretty accurate.
Zuko's arc has to be studied, in depth
Vegetas neck development is even better bro went from pencil neck to bull neck
Them’s his traps from all that gravity and hyperbolic chamber training.
The less evil he becomes, the beefier his neck gets and his hairline even improves
While Ice King aka Simon didn’t have much of an arc in the original show, I will attest that the IK has one of the most shocking reveals off all time. He went from a wacky, kidnapping ice wizard, to the most sad character in the entire show.
100% agrred on this ice king left my heart broken
He was already a bit pitfull but after that i cried for him
Fr bro went through it
Got you to 1k likes bro 🫡
Ngl I think Arthur Morgan had huge character development
My boeh arthur morgan, agree with you but maybe the creator didn't play the game yet
Walter’s personality was so abrupt that you have to believe that it was ALWAYS there. Had he stayed at Gray Matter, he would have become a ruthless ceo. The money, power, and recognition would have been too much to keep his ego in check.
Speaking of Walter having the audacity to cry, Bryan Cranston did a good job there with the crying because he saw Kristen Ritter (actress of Jane) look dead and in that moment, Bryan saw the face of his own daughter in that exact same dead position.
It haunted him so much to the point where he needed a powerful reminder from Anna Gun (actress of Skyler) that none of it was real.
Terrible for Byran there. But I'll admit, VERY GOOD ACTING.
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Jessica Jones will take her revenge on Walter.
😢😢😢
Holy shi-
BrBa actors got it rough during productions man! Like i remember seeing a post talking about how skyler can't have social media cause of the internet and her acting to whine walt left the house, and I'd get that in some AMAZING shows, but TWICE!? In ONE show!? Holy- this makes me love brba more, brba also had the part where the baby was calling for it's mom and bryan went along with it, like yooo making brba seems like you not only need phenomenal acting skills but need to have a therapist on stand by 😂
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Stanley Pines, Simon Petrokov, Magneto, Rigby, Hawkgirl, and of course Zuko were the characters from my childhood cartoons who had some of the best changes.
Simon went from a comedic relief to a depressed old man who lost his fiance from her turning into God. 💀💀
@@Vividlyablez Yeah hellova rollercoaster that guy went on
One of my favorites was Ahsoka Tano. She was so insufferable at the start of Clone Wars, but come the end of the show, she was one of the most respectable and selfless characters in the franchise
Bro I love Zuko and Vegeta. Respect
I think what makes these arcs so great is how the writers are very honest about the characters' situations.
We are shown every step to their change in painstaking detail. Ugly parts and all.
Which is what makes the conclusion to their arcs so satisfying.
You forgot that not just the whole "Jane wasn't good for Jesse", but she quite literally threatened to END Walt, also putting his whole family into the pit...
there finna be in the pit
Honestly Zuko and Vegeta imo have the best character development in fiction so it's a W to see them both in one video
Derek is a man of culture
Vegeta on Namek was peak vegeta for me
Black and white armour vegeta 🔛🔝
Buu saga Vegeta 🗿 👑🗿👑🗿
fr bro fr
He was so much better as a villain.
My boi got his own Character Development on Reaching to 100K
I honestly WOULDN'T say DBS ruined Vegeta's character, it's a topic that comes up every time DBS and Vegeta are mentioned. People usually say DBS retconned Vegeta because he went back on his Buu Saga development. But the developments aren't the same. In the Buu Saga, Vegeta puts down his life long grudge of revenge against Goku, he's not orienting his entire life around beating Goku anymore. In Super, yes, he still wants to beat Goku, but it's as a regular martial artist and a prince and wanting to be the best he can be, he just didn't lose interest in fighting and retire like half the cast. But you can see the difference when he skips out on training to with his family, like when Bulma was going to give birth.
Glad someone understands that. I've seen too many people say Super ruined Vegeta when the "You're number one" speech didn't mean I don't want to surpass you anymore
Yea i literally hate super but even a blind man can see super went there rite direction with Vegeta an his character development now goku whole nother topic
Debatable. The whole point of Vegeta Buu Saga was being able to overcome his ego. And in Super he literally need to go back to super over inflated ego to power up.
@@CaptainPangolin True, but he couldn't fully go through with it he said it himself he couldn't be the man he used to be anymore before Granolah was going to unleash that attack at Vegeta
@@jsemicolona Well, even before that with his Ultra Blue Super Sayan (I don't know the name. The bullshit power up he got from wanking himself "I'm dah fucking sayan prince !")
You know your day boutta be fire when Derek uploads
bro i cant say why but i love these vids. keep it up G. here for every single vid
was with ya when u had 18k! Ur making good progress for a reason)!
lowkey this vid got me wantin to watch avatar again good work ma boy
"I watched Jane die. I could've saved her, but I didn't." That has to be the *coldest* line in television history.
Loved the berserk insert there at the end. Great top 3 though
Sick!! Was waiting for this!!🍺
I love your works hopefully for my art skills will get better just like your personality
Congrats ON 100K!!! wow your so underrated, just stumbled on your page, you was at like 1 subscriber! crazy to see the growth
thanks dude
@@DerekFDB wire me $10k
I can't believe Derek actually talked about something I fully knew about. I watched The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra this year (i play fortnite) and Zuko actually grew to become my favorite character, because of his backstory and the way he redeemed himself and helped the Avatar restore balance to the world. (and moon-rizzer sokka)
Grats on 100k, time for me to rewatch avatar
the fact that in 5 more months he reached 200k is crazy, love DerekFDB , keep making fire vids
Dude your humor and editing is on point! Great vid
Doofenshmirtz should be on here he had the greatest charecter development
Seeing as i subscribed yesterday.... i feel like i may have been 100k... which us wild, your vids are top quality and i love them!
What makes Zuko's character development feel more human and real was that "relapse" when he chose to side with Azula. When you're recovering you aren't throwing off all bad things at once. There were still traces of that old Zuko because the change was gradual.
Waited to long for this
Thorfinn has by far the best character development. Goes from an innocent little boy to a stone cold mass murderer who can compete with the strongest killers then he becomes a slave and then becomes a peaceful man who wants people to stop fighting
I mean, he followed his dad's footsteps. He was a cold killer, but realized that, killing without reason, is wrong. That anime taught me a lot.
Those are very well done, character development characters
I think 1 thing needs to be understood, character progression =/= character development. Static characters can have great character development
Ex. The joker or batman, they're fairly static characters, but the development is from the exploration of how they would respond in different situations.
Development = exploring how characters respond to different things, and gaining further insight on their thoughs, ideas, purpose, objectives etc
progression = how a character changes through time
It just so happens to be the case that in many cases development co-incides with progression (as shown here)
You said well. Vegeta has a minimum of character development, but a lot of janky character progression.
And that is why the vegeta character is shallow and wide.
Walter has both in detail, well done.
Just ridiculous this guy put vegeta over Guts into the list.
Which one is more important or impactful?
@@foreignfat6009it's probably because Vegeta is more Popular
@@dentangaji6161 depends on the character. Again with the joker from Batman for example, it’s development. With someone like zuko from avatar, his progression was fascinating (his development was great too)
Zuko truly is the best.
If we’re talking about Vegatas character development let’s not forget the man’s complete growth in GT. The man loves humans now and calls Kakarot Goku.. he’s also laughing and doing father daughter bonding and hoursing around with goten and trunks.
congrats on 100k man, lovely
dude your videos are TOO good, it amazes me
Very cool video! If there's a part 2, pls add thorfinn from Vinland Saga or batman from The Batman
Finn, the Human is one of the best characters I've ever met, I loved to see that kid grow, make mistakes, learn from them, mature and become a true Hero, I felt proud of him
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Congrats on the 104k Derek‼️ 😎👍🏾
3:56 Damn this made me laugh HARD. Subscribed.
Zuko, your my number 1 redemption arc, and vegeta, sorry you never get revenge on your barber
keep going bro love ur vids, the guts clip at the end made this vid perfect :)
John Lockes arc was wild in LOST
i love the zuko arc so much he became one of my fave characters so fast 😂 his anger cracks me up like same bro
Super Vegeta? I'm asleep. GT Vegeta? Now that's how you do my boy.
Yes. GT vegeta is peak even if don’t like the show. Vegeta chill af and care about surpassing Goku. A lot of lines also brought to tears too.
wdym super was peak too, go see top arc and black goku arc
his lines in that are pure godly and in recent chapters man is feeling guilty for his previous actions and thats a huge leap , he is actually chill these days too like after winning against goku he doesn't go on full sicko mode or anything just make fun with goku 🚶♂️🤷♂️
11:03 The real moral of the story is to understand character development isn’t just fictional.
Amazing Video, you never miss
would love to see another video just like this in the future with kevin from ben 10 and maybe lloyd from ninjago
This video made me want to rewatch each of these shows
DerekFDB: His (Walter's) transformation was night and day!
Or day *THEN* night. Because Vegeta was night, then day.
Imagine not catching up on Breaking Bad in 2023...Walt and Hank die. Jesse snitches
Thumbnail speaking facts
Ayy man just found your channel and already binged all the vids
Amazing content dude
Yessir new post!!!!
the fact that you didnt include grifith from breserk in that video is a low key crime
god bless u bro happy new year 2024 is gonna be a great year for u
9:18 bro had to make me cry outta nowhere💔
You haven't seen Season 5 yet?! Dear god that season has the single best episode of television in it! You're in for a ride man
*Anakin skywalkers left the chat*
No one is insulting Uncle Iroh that he is the best character ever written
Fr
@@jaylaavincent5791 What are you saying
@@jaylaavincent5791 Sorry, but you don't have anything to bother me with. I'm like Uncle Iroh, I have no enemies
@@jaylaavincent5791 What is wdym
wdym; what do you mean.
fr; for real
Arthur Morgan, the man who started as a outlaw, gradually trying to become a better man through his tuberculosis. you can see the struggles of the things he has done and the ones he's about to do, and how he decided to pile them away and kept trying to have a new life. this isn't just a character develpoment anymore, through arthur, we can see the final effort of life trying to make it's last effort doing something. we can see how something so catastrophic can change a man's life forever. we can see everything a man had buildt in his life, only crumbled into dust and ashes by the harsh hammer of rality. but, that's just the way it is. the lesson we learnt only to be forgot, the buildings we made only just to burn. that's the way it is.
Derek, i'm not sure if you can see this. but please, make this comment become visible by everyone with ease, thank you.
I once heard someone say that Walter White's character development wasn't about him changing. It was about him realizing who he truly was.
Another good one is Steve from stranger things. He started off all in nancys pants, but now he sacrificed his life 5 times to save the kids in the show
You should put Thorfinn from Vinland
The beach always been one of my favorites too
100k❤
DerekFDB
Well Deserved.
8:14 Truer words have never been said 😂
He is w man’s he is at 100k congrats 🎉🎉🎉🎉😢the best RUclipsr
The thumbnail goes hard as $h1t 🔥🔥🔥🔥
you should make recaps you're hella good at them ngl
Just wait till he sees Ozymandias
TY TY TY TY FOR TALKING ABOUT MY PRINCE ZUKO
You need to remake this video cos season 5 makes walt's ego in the maximum height
Awesome content!
Reverse Character Arcs can also be really great, because it makes you look at characters in different perspectives, like Pink Diamond from Steven Universe.
that middle finger from trunks require such bravery
great diagnosis of Walter
John Marstons and Arthur Morgans is definitely the best developments in video game history
bro dis guys meme selection is top tier
1:20 “And although he was a terrible father to him…”
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK, PLEASE!
Great vid bro.😺
Congrats on 100K ganger
Vegeta is my favorite character in DB. Happy to see at least some people like him too.
You sir have earned a sub also I hate that it seems like characters no longer get development any more it’s just here’s the character now watch the action. I think at least in my opinion it’s why I can’t watch newer western shows there’s no character development any more
Nahh when walter killed jane that was the moment i truly started rooting for him bro so cold w it
You gotta do a part 2 with ThornFinn from Vinland saga
You’ve literally chosen my 3 favorite fictional characters besides Spider-Man. That’s incredible.
I’m addicted to this vid cause it got Zuko in it
These characters are so fucking amazing man
You know what, you should do a review on book 1 to 3 of avatar
I feel like majin Vegeta was able to resist not because he became good but the urge for a Saiyan to fight stronger opponent out weighed his hate for Goku.
5:04 no he believed the girl was too good for Jesse he was gonna run away with her iirc
@@87wxdiazHe believed she was bad for him, and she was, they were gonna die as junkies in another country
Gt vegeta continued with that great development
7:45 is WILD