This was about as comprehensive a deconstruction of a case against as it’s possible to conceive, Mr. Stow. I used to think Aaron Kosminski a viable suspect - not anymore. Excellent research and very cogently argued.
The rain they believed playing with one self was a sign of mental illness was because the Bible said it was. The Bible said this whom do it can only gain forgiveness by plucking out one's own eyes. Hence why so many Romans plucked it their eyes. It was one of the only ways to be removed from the African front. Because of its mental implications. If they couldn't control their own desires they weren't fit to be around others.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 PLEASE APPLY THE SAME COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO A SEPARATE VIDEO ALL ABOUT THE "FROM HELL" LETTER. I love the level of research you do and I trust it. No one in my opinion has solely focused upon the "From Hell" letter only. I would love you to delve into everything about it as I believe without doubt that his is actually from JTR and the insight into his mind and frustrations are shown, cryptically I concede but nevertheless, if genuine (which I believe it to be) shows a great deal into the mindset of JTR. I want to know how the letter was delivered, my mail or hand delivered? The man it was delivered to; who was he and what impact could his committee have made on the streets of someone like JTR in terms of reduction of victims and opportunity. That letter to me smells of absolute frustration in that the writer feels cheated and angry about what that committee are doing on the streets a night to lower JTR prey availability and his fear himself of being caught as a result of that extra security being applied. On a separate note, one thing i did think of from watching your videos was how different the last victim was (Mary Kelly) from all the others. Substantially so in terms of age in particular. My understanding is that Lechmere had 12 children? Is it possible he had his fill with Kelly and therefore sated his desires given how in her case he was not rushed and got to do all the things he fantasized about? Is it possible he felt some guilt about her because he went so far, lost so much control and perhaps, she reminded him of his own daughter and his love for her/them caused him to stop? Just a thought but I think also worth investigating. Please do a video on the from hell letter though, I don't think you will ever get any closer to JTR than that letter.
Why was Mary Kelly slaughtered like that? Because the Ripper had time and was undisturbed. It didn't make him crazy, he was crazy from the start. He would have slaughtered the other victims the same way if he had enough time and without the fear of being discovered.
It’s ironic his Andersons book came out in 1910 when Lechmere was still alive, I wander if he ever saw it or even read it, if he did he probably laughed inside.
Just randomly got this recommendation from the algorithm, not a jack ripper guy.. don’t know anything about the case(besides that it was never solved) Excited to check this series and I’m sure it will make it into my bedtime rotation, appreciate the content dude.
With 30 years of forensic psychiatric nursing experience I agree completely that while any one of the frenzied attacks could have been the result of someone in the depths of psychosis a series of such murders would suggest the complete opposite! To suggest someone with a severe disabling mental illness would then only murder during periods of mental stability when they would need to be a sadistic sexual psychopath is highly unlikely and I can think of no such cases.
Totally agree. I'm an LVN, I've worked the last 32 years with Dementia, schizophrenic patients in a nursing home lockdown unit. I've been my schizophrenic brother's guardian since 1996. It's very unlikely JtR was a young schizophrenic.
@@Makaveli_93 Males usually don't start developing symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia until around 18 years of age. Females are much younger when symptoms develop. Very few serial killers are schizophrenic.
@@Makaveli_93 Sloppy, unorganized, very impulsive. Kosminski couldn't hide his crazy in the daylight. What makes you think he'd get away with this? He can't even be placed at a crime scene. He could barely speak English.
Shorts was most likely seen whilst in the act. Conjecture I know but think about this. A man sees Shorts in the act and shouts Lipski and Shorts panicking runs across the street from where a woman was later found murdered. He puts himself there!!. Worried he had been seen & identified. He goes straight to police to report himself a witness. The man who shouted Lipski never comes forward. Also man with pipe never identified. Police did thorough investigation. No man with pipe. Shorts could well be JTR. Kosminski easy scapegoat.
This is what I like about your content, Edward, and your friend Christer Holmgren's: you not only put forth the evidence for Lechmere's guilt, you take pains to explain *why* the police missed him in the first place. With every other suspect, people are grasping at straws now, just as Swanson and Anderson were back then. That "it was the crazy Jewish immigrant from Poland" remains the most "mainstream" theory on the Ripper's identity is just mind-boggling to me.
All the criminial profiling that has been done on him based on known cases has shown him to be a very likely suspect. He grew without his mother in Whitechapel. He'd gone through the pogrom of Poland probably viewing violence and sexual violence at a very young age. He had an unstable home moving with frequency. Unsteady employment. He lived at 3 Sion Place, the epicentre of the killings. All the deaths fell in his geographic profiling area.
He was an adult in Whitechapel - being without a mother as an adult is not unusual. He didn't live a Sion Square at the time of any of the murders. He didn't move frequently. His lack of employment was due to mental illness. He was mentally unfit for work. This factor pretty much eliminates him as a repeat stealthy serial killer.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 So, at the time of the murders he didn't live at 3 Sion Square?? He was born around 1864/65 when he came to Whitechapel he was in about 1881/82, so he was 17, not exactly an adult. In 1890 he was admitted to Mike End workhouse giving his address as 3 Sion Square. He moved between there and 16 Greenfield St.
The background information about the London police superiors on the case is totally fascinating. Rather than assuming they were experienced and knowledgeable cops, THOL has once again provided superb research that breaks these suppositions down. All of this still leaves Charles Lechmere as the strongest suspect IMO. Great video Mr Stow!
Indeed. How many times are we told by the Kosminski supporters that the bigwigs knew what they were doing and thus can't have been wrong? That's been their mantra.
Blomer is two faced. In one comment he once argued he doesn't rule out Lechmere from being a suspect... but then goes on to write books on how Lechmere wasn't a suspect. Wish the man would make up he's mind.
A cool and calculating person would never have risked to kill Stride and Chapman and probably also Eddowes and Nichols where JTR did. He only depended on luck to get away from the murdered Chapman and during the Stride murder he was probably even witnessed by two people. It was never in his hands to get away, he just took a chance and had tremendous luck. He did not even care to be discovered, otherwise he would not have risked those murders in first place. I don't say that JTR was totally insane, but I also don't think he was as normal as many think today. He was simply a slave of his drives when he was doing what he was doing and afterwards and in between he maybe functioned reasonably, like many people.
@FrankMcCloud We can argue he was definitely a cool and calculating customer to work out how much time he had in Mitre Square between police beats, and he was cool and clever enough to get the job done on time. Little risk in the back yard of Hanbury Street in the dark when people were asleep in bed. I don't think Schwartz saw JTR. He didn't even see Stride being murdered. JTR wouldn't have pulled a victim onto the street in full view of others and then shout at one of them. What Schwartz saw was likely nothing more than a drunk being approached by a lady of the night hawking herself and he took offence and reacted with violence. I dare say that must have been a frequent occurrence.
@@lyndoncmp5751 It seems very probable to me too that he always knew exactly the routes and time schedules of the policemen. Though it can't be totally excluded that he was simply extremely lucky. I think the risk in Hanbury Street was tremendous. Not to meet police, but one of the many tenants who lived in the building and particularly were already awake preparing for work. And even if they were sleeping, it could have easily been that a scream of the victim or just some noises could have woken up some. And most of all, he was in a trap in this backyard, he could not have escaped had someone come and there was no way for him to exclude this possibility, so this was sheer luck in the end. He could also not have been sure to not be seen when escaping from there, when stepping through the corridor and out of the door. As for Schwartz I think that the time frame was very narrow. Like in Bucks Row. Only a few minutes maybe and here the guy beating the woman would have needed to escape quickly while JTR must have already been around the corner. And the place was a very risky one too. Diemschütz could have arrived at any time and so could have someone left the building at any time.
I always wondered why the Royal angle was pushed over the years, maybe because this is more fascinating and throws people off from looking into Kozminski
It's amazing to me with all the notable "Ripperologists" out there, none of them agree on any suspect. I have to admit that's part of the reason I find all the research so interesting.
@noahbrock349 In 2019, they did DNA from the only remaining evidence of the crimes. The DNA tested back through ancestry with seven on the scarf to Aaron. People still argue it amd claim the scarf did not come from the crime scenes etc...but there you have it, DNA seminal fluid from him.
Thank you for visiting the locations and providing a "just the facts," style of narration. You are so good at this, should you conclude with your investigations, and you want to continue this style of reporting, please consider going through the Annotated Sherlock Holmes and discuss the real cases that inspired many of the Sherlock Holmes stories, perhaps in a second channel. I don't know if it's of interest to you, but even a tour of all the stories, inspired by true crime or not, would be extremely entertaining for a very large audience and you have the style of delivery that would make it thoroughly enjoyable.
Nice idea, but a hell of a lot of work for somebody not familiar with that topic. I don't know if Ed is or isn't but I think he has his hands full with the Jack The Ripper topic still.
@@leejames1792Who were the thousands of people seen standing around Polly Nichols just killed dead body in Bucks Row? Answers on a postage stamp please.
My granddad was told by detective Abberline that Jack the ripper was Kosminski. He told him he didn't think Liz Stride was a victim of the ripper and said a woman who had been chopped up had been pulled out the Thames before the murders. That's why they closed the case after Mary Kelly was killed. My granddad and his brother had been raised in the workhouse in Hounslow, grandad was in the WW1as a sniper. Great uncle Tom was a bare knuckle fighter who would go round the pubs of London fighting. Abberline was a boozer. He said he personally and another policeman had taken kosminski to Colney Hatch asylum aftermary kellys murder. Abberline said the police fucked up. They were watching kosminski but he managed to kill again that's when it was decided to commit him to an asylum. I've thought about this overwhelming years.i think abberline was telling most of the truth but not quite all of it. Abberline was adrunk I think him saying they had messed up was not totally the truth. I think the cops did indeed get Jack the ripper into custody and I think they had nothing on him unless he confessed so they gave him a beating and killed him. That's why they knew to close the case and seal it. But that's just my take on it. My grandmother wouldn't believe what granddad told her: she was a republican and hated the royal family, she wouldn't have it that one of them wasn't involved and thats why it was shut, and hushed up. I belive granddad.
Sorry to disagree. I believe granddads story. But for I believe Abbeline? Not so much. I think the one thing everyone can be sure of is the police closed and sealed the case pretty soon after the last accepted murder. So they had to have known pretty conclusively that the murder spree was over. Serial killers are notoriously hard to catch, and much harder to prove it. They couldn't even tell animal blood from human at the time. So I think they got him and, accidently or otherwise, killed him. Kosminski or not, they knew. I always found it funny that my granddad said abberline, falling down drunk had said they fucked up. That's something police don't like to admit. To my mind, that is the clincher. They beat him to get a confession and he died of it and they hushed it up. How far up the cover up went, who knows. But you seem to be a researcher, it would be interesting to see if anyone died in police custody at the time, or who was arrested if possible. It might be a lead worth investigating.
@saydvoncripps The case was not closed for years as far as I know. It was still ongoing and later murders such as Alice McKenzie were thought of as Ripper murders at the time.
@@saydvoncripps I suspect the case was closed in 1892 because 1 There had been no obvious series of killings that the media tied to JTR for several years so the pressure was off. One off crimes that might be tied to him could be explained away as unrelated. 2 The police had come up with an internal theory or narrative(suicide; committed to an asylum) that satisfied the higher ups simply so that they could close the case and get away with it. In other words the top was very receptive to the idea of closing the case. And thus was duly supplied. 3 Policing is primarily about resource allocation and the higher ups love it when they can close a case and move those resources elsewhere. If it cant be solved then the next best thing is a plausible reason to suppose that there is closure (ie there wont be any more of this particular murder series). 4 The key variable in all of this is media/public/political pressure. Cos that affects the higher ups the most. Once the hue and cry died down the pressure was to close the case one way or another. And move on. And so they did.....the mcnaugtan memorandum is not a summary of a police investigation. Its a cover yer arse political document that explains why the case was close.
Wow what an excellent, thorough and damning riposte to the entire Kosminski theory. I've not seen a more exhaustive video on Kosminski. Everyone who favours Kosminski must watch this and take great heed. I'll have to watch it again to take it all in. Well done to you Ed. Brilliant. What I find incredible is the 'it would have been of no public benefit to reveal the identity of the killer' spiel. Seriously? No benefit for the public to know the most famous serial killer ever? How convenient of an excuse that was. "They don't need to know so we don't need to tell them!". Oh my goodness 😂.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 They certainly would have done, if only to protect their own police reputation...."we got our man, here he is, this is his name" etc.
What exactly is it you feel is a riposte here? I tend to favor Kosminski as a suspect, but i fail to see how exactly this is supposed to really attack that position. But maybe you can tell me, what argument here you find particularly strong?
@@Pawsk Firstly I think it's clear to anyone familiar with serial killer cases through history that an outwardly abnormal person like Kosminski is absolutely not logically viable as Jack The Ripper. Secondly it's blindingly obvious that the police didn't have a clue who the Ripper was or the type of person he was so their opinions are worthless and based on nothing but the prevailing mindset of the time, which we know today were outdated and misguided. Thirdly, Jack The Ripper wouldn't have been placed in Colney Hatch and Leavesden. The most infamous, brutal and terrifying killer of the times in Colney Hatch and Leavesden? No. Just no. The police bigwigs were merely trying to save the reputation of their profession. Nothing more.
Mary Kelly would have known Jack the Ripper. Letting him into her house ? I don't think she would have let just anyone into her house. They would have had to look a person of means at least.
@@mikepotts2470she had literally asked Barnett to read her reports of the murders and was on her guard. No chance she brings a Jewish lunatic into millers court
I was thinking about this the other day. It's not certain that Kelly knew the murderer. It is possible. She was heard singing into the night. This implies being drunk - especially as a lot of people were almost continually drunk back then. A neighbour heard someone shout / cry murder. But this is not the only ripper crime scene where that occurred. But most tellingly, that window beside the door was broken. The murderer could of removed the rag, peered in to see Kelly laying on the bed, opened the door that was just a couple of feet from the window, whereupon Kelly might of heard something or felt a breeze and called out just as she was silenced. But it is of course all pure hypothesis.
@awotnot Hmmmm but why would JTR be going around peering through windows for victims though? His method was to find them on the streets, and plenty of women were still on the streets. There was a long gap between Eddowes and Kelly and people's guards had relaxed a bit. JTR wouldn't have needed to become a peeping tom. I suspect he was taken to Kelly's abode, not randomly spied on it. UNLESS of course he knew Kelly and where she lived so planned it out beforehand. Then your theory could be correct. Either way, Kelly isn't bringing somebody like Kosminski home.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! KEEP UPLOADING THEY ARE SO NICE! Now for real, you are the only person I know that keeps bringing new questions to this subject the others are just asking the same questions for no reason. It's not like they are going to ever solve the case by doing the same things over again.
It's intellectually lazy to write off the Ripper as a sexual lunatic. He seems very accutely aware of the social and politicsl condition of the area at the time--and even exploited it, yelling "Lipsky" at an onlooker, causing the onlooker and another possible eyewitness to get spooked and run off. This was at the site of the first murder the night of the "double event." He seemed able to create illusion of actual purpose in case he was caught or interrupted. It was all planned, or roughly coreographed in his head. He was changing his wardrobe quite a bit and was aware enough of the vast population of the area to know to always have his back towards possible onlookers. He was acutely aware enough to create subterfuge. He knew the lighting was dim, etc... which also factors into the skill of his crimes. To be able to pull off his deeds so quickly and expertly in that poor lighting was incredible. I think he also realized how inept the police were, possibly that factored into his initial plan for even attempting such dastardly deeds. Apparently, there were parts of White Chapel that police wouldn't venture into without a partner or two.
It’s almost unthinkable that JTR was some crazed lunatic, wild-eyed and foaming at the mouth. Whilst he was certainly abnormal, he had to have been able to offer at least a veneer of plausibility, to engage with his victims, persuade them to go with him and then, slip away unnoticed thereafter.
Your research challenges given theories we are made to take for granted. This is brilliant in rigour and methodology. Thank you. The videos also provide visual details that enable the audience to appreciate the case you put to us.
Just out of curiosity, but is the general concencus, that Anderson and Swanson were straight up lying, or do people generally think that there was in fact a witnessidentification of JtR, but Anderson had no reason to be as convinced as he was?
I think the trend at the top was increasingly anti-Jewish rhetoric and that fact alone swayed their racist mindsets. It had to be a Jew. Whilst another Jew had to conceal the truth because he did not want to implicate his Jewish brethren. I think both men batted the ball between one another and between them they concocted the narrative. This is not say they were lying. Perhaps deluded would be a better word. They deluded themselves into thinking it must of been Kosminski because he was Jewish. Although I accept that I'm merely repeated Ed's words here. Another great upload btw Ed. Fascinating info.
Of course, the big police bosses would have hated to go down in history as having completely and utterly failed on this case. Even if it was years after the murders, there had to be some saving of face. I think that's why Anderson wrote what he did.
Does anyone else ever get the idea that after 136 years, Edward and Christer are the only two people who've actually put any *real* research into this?
Think it was Michael Connor that picked up on Lechmere then dropped it because he was getting frenzied attacks from deniers. Edward and Christer certainly did pick up on it and bought Lechmere to where he is at today. Others to worried about getting abuse from other so called Ripperologist who cling on for dear life to their suspects.
I believe many people have put forth suspects they genuinely believe in and have done some great research. However, I believe Mr. Stow and Christer have put forth the most plausible version, with all due respect to their predecessors.
@@leejames1792Seems you are the one who is disrespectful. You should respect other people's suspects. You always have the choice to leave the room and shut the door behind you. Maybe this channel is a bit to sensitive for you.
The accounts I have read make no mention of any siblings of Kosminski that the police were able to locate. He is not known to have ever lived with siblings, if he had any. HE lived in the barbershop where he was employed, doing only minor, unskilled tasks such as sweeping and washing the floor after hours, He was only very rarely allowed to cut a patron's hair. At one point he did get into a fight with another employee and threw a chair at him. His co-worker was injured, a broken arm I think, but recovered. It was after this incident that his employer contacted the asylum for the insane ask asked that Kosminski be committed. Kosminski raised no objections, and a local magistrate approved the employer's request. This was the beginning and end of Kosminski's "criminal career,"
The "homicidal maniac" who stands out from the crowd and kills himself out of self-loathing is a very Victorian caricature that has nothing to do with real serial killers. They are experts at seeming perfectly normal and take huge amounts of pride and joy in their acts. They never take their own lives, always give up without a struggle when caught, and always brag to anyone who will listen about every nasty detail. None of them ever really stops until he physically can't do it anymore. Some start up again years or decades after seeming to stop. They are true psychopaths who consider only their own pleasure and feel no guilt or empathy. Jack might have moved elsewhere, died, or been otherwise stopped, but he certainly didn't end himself in a satisfying little morality play like some Victorian version of a Shakespeare character.
All the other keyboard ripperologists who are too lazy or perhaps in capable of doing this sort of film work are very jealous of Mr Stows work...well to be precise they are angry that he has reached millions of viewers and they almost all agree with his view.
Yes. Those poor women would have gone willingly to the place where they were murdered. So most likely the culprit was respectable or charming in nature (a psychopath), extremely ordinary and therefore beyond suspicion (given the sensationalism around the crimes as being the work of a 'madman') or was someone known to to the victims but who was considered harmless/trustworthy. Other much less likely theories for the victims compliance in going with their killer are that JTR was a woman or a police constable but its hardly worth exploring those avenues.
While recovering from a touch of gout, I just watched this episode. Thanks, Edward I found it most informative. For me his medical history is at odds with what appears to be a cool, calculating, yet deranged person. It is clear he had a plan - for example, to get no obvious blood on him; to kill in such a way that allows this. And if that did not work, he was cool enough to evade capture and clean himself up. So this for me does not fit a deranged person - a person that would most likely be caught covered in blood. So for me, I hate to say it, the killer was a predator - bent on his twisted mission - whatever that was. Anyway, thanks for the episode.
Great research and analysis. It does seem like the police at the time may have been overly concerned in looking for someone who had specific traits and profile. Which ultimately may have been to the detriment of the investigation.
Great stuff...Yes, Chiefs of Police and such love to PIN a suspect not to admit defeat! Still goes on ...a lot! .Really enjoy your work Sir. Thank You.
Nay, nay and thrice nay ! (ooh missus !) Anderson had no previous experience of policing, and neither do I, so I think we’re both equally qualified and entitled to offer an opinion. He personified all that was “bumbling and bureaucratic” about the Police hierarchy of the time (a description which was to be inherited by men orchestrating the slaughter of the first war). In 1888 Kosminski fitted the bill but, as progress and knowledge are now revealing, it was the wrong bill. Not the crazed maniac, but the individual who you might notice least. Jack the Ripper “might” have been caught by chance by the “honest copper” on the beat but probably not by Andersons flimsy at best and, in my opinion, wide of the mark deductions. A very thorough and entertaining film which torpedoes Anderson’s and Swansons theories and ultimately the Kosminski theory.
Excellent work sir. While Kosminski is the "favorite" suspect theres too much about him that makes him unlikely to be JTR. Speaking from 25 yrs experience around criminals he just doesnt fit the crimes.
I have to disagree at 42:50 There are well-documented cases of serial killers who are extremely mentally ill (paranoid schizoids etc,.) displaying planning, forethought- Richard Ramirez for example. It's not out of the realm of what we know about serial killing.
Schizophrenic and mental illness didn't influence his sentencing. Would he have been committed to an asylum had he not been apprehended for murder? No.
One of the most interesting parts in this video comes at 37:00 -- that people were supposed to give their real name in legal matters. It is obvious, of course, despite blabber from other Ripperologists, and Lechmere didn't do it. Another interesting question is this: _Why_ did Victorians so often hide themselves behind false names? In Whitechapel, it seems as almost everyone did it, even in their everyday lives.
The people we meet in.the Ripper tale aren't typical Victorians. They are often people from the bottom level of society among whom alternative names are more common. Lechmere wasn't from that class.
Nathan Kaminsky was Jack The Ripper. He was a cobbler’s assistant on the Whitechapel Road & lived at Black Lion Yard. He contracted syphilis from a prostitute (in those days a fatal condition). He developed all the attributes McNaughton ascribes to Kosminsky, especially his hatred of women. As the syphilis caused his mental degeneration so his crimes became worse. Just after the Mary Kelly murder he was arrested for attacking two women in the street in broad daylight and after a brief interview taken to Colney Hatch asylum. He refused to give his name so was called officially David Cohen, a Jewish version of John Smith or John Doe. He was transferred to Bethel Asylum where he died in early 1889 from syphilis. Aaron Kosminsky was a Whitechapel resident who had a mental illness. He had a pathological aversion to washing. He was a placid man with no propensity to violence, except on one occasion when he threatened his sister with a knife (probably because she threatened him with a flannel).
@@MostWantedHitman There is zero proof the shawl belonged to the victim and the dna they found on it also belonged to thousands of other people besides him. This whole story has been debunked repeatedly
A new THoL video = a great start to the weekend! 😃 Did the police house-to-house search area reach as far as 22 Doveton Street? If so, I suppose they will have quickly moved on and not questioned the "normal, respectable, hardworking, English family man" who was head of that household.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407so much packed in. Most RUclips channels would be at least double the length, with the same information, and a TV documentary would have to have 10 series of 8 episodes each, just for this one 50 min video. I commend your commitment to the truth, and when something is ambiguous, your deductive reasoning is virtually beyond reproach, imo.
I feel Kozminski is one of the least likely Ripper suspects of all. He was clearly suffering severely from his paranoid delusions, which caused him to have a pathological fear of washing and eating. My guess is that these fears would have been a problem for a serial killer who was known to remove the victim’s organs. Eventually, he would have had to find a way to get the blood off or he would have been caught.
It's worthwhile to remember the ripper very probably woulda looked very plain , like serial killers do . "Is that him ?! " No way ?? , really?" would have been the likely response on his capture " The police didn't understand serial killers back then They were looking for overtly crazy people. The myth took over and helped hide him. I do believe it was lechmere aka cross and he should have been caught after nicholls or at least ruled out and interrogated . He cpuldnt believe his luck
Gr8 Stuff Edward....Amazingly closed-minded were the Authorities,....Kosminski , Cohen & Kaminsky, maybe all of them the same person, not-likely to be JTR, as they didn't have their English Language Skills at a level where the Victims wud feel comfortable with them and go into an isolated place without being frightened of their appearance, as well....Kosminski was not dressed as a sailor, so the women wud have been wary of those with an accent that wasn't a sailor...More likely, JTR was someone the women had seen around the area before and did not feel threatened....If Kosminski murdered during lucid periods, highly unlikely that wud be the case, he wud have been caught by The Police who were everywhere when the murders occurred, as he wudn't have had escape plans, as U said, Edward........The Vigilance Groups about Whitechapel, like George Lusk's Committee, for sure wud have caught him, as well and I read Policemen were dressed as prostitutes to try and catch JTR, too.....Don't know how true that was, but the point is, JTR wud have been caught near a victim, if the perpetrator had a major mental illness...If any of the Letters to Police from JTR were written and sent by Kosminski, I doubt that he wud be able to do that with any plan.. The From Hell Letter, is likely to be the only one that is genuine and is not signed JTR, just 'catch me when U can Mishter Lusk', as it was sent to him not the Police....Kosminski and the DNA evidence has been rejected and the reality is Kosminski wudn't have been roaming the streets in Whitechapel, not knowing where he was and then murdering the women...The Beat Policemen wud have seen him and detained him, but this never happened...Cheers fm Damo🤔👍
8:47 my lord!!! Such idiotic and biased comments…. I imagined that the police had done a very bad job in this case but now I’m sure they never caught him because they clearly didn’t care….😮
I think it’s outdated Victorian era rationale. Only 30 years prior to these murders, scientists were removing convicted, executed criminal’s brains and looking for abnormalities to indicate a murderous disposition.
Interestinly this is one of the few videos on this channel that I am more or less in agreement with. Anderson and Swanson had shown impressive levels of incompetence and indifference to the case, and it's not entirely beyond the realm of possibility that they just found some sort of scapegoat to latch on to, who happened to be a Polish jew. I do not believe that the murderer was poor Charles Lechmere, but it wasn't Kosminski either.
Since you can't go back and re-interview the witnesses that Scotland Yard failed to properly interview and make sure weren't lying the entire thing is unsolvable, there's just not enough pieces to solve the puzzle. Hell people are so stuck on the "canonical 5" they don't even consider that no other serial killer in history has ever simply sprang into action out of nowhere and started the series. There's always a murder before sometimes a couple years, sometimes 10 years before, which predates the series, the Ripper would've been no exception but no "ripperologist" seems to care to find the earlier murders. There's no decisive metrics on how many murders overall were taking place in Whitechapel at that point and in the 10 years before and after and how those stack up against 1888 so you cannot make the argument this was all the work of a single individual even, if murder was commonplace in Whitechapel who's to say that Stride for example is a Ripper victim? There's nothing to base that on decisively, and due to differences in the M.O it's entirely arguable Stride wasn't a Ripper victim and yet the star witness is a Stride witness, so that's a major problem right there. You'd need a list of all murders in that and surrounding areas for the 10 years before and after the canonical 5, you'd need to re-interview the witnesses to find out which ones were lying or not and for which ones the story remains verbatim after a few weeks so you can arrange which ones are more believable, you'd need to conduct more extensive profiles and backgrounds for all suspects, the victorian lists should all be dismissed since they're all based on a lot of racial bias and nonsense. Some because it's presumed homosexuals hated women, others because of Lipski and the racist idea that only a Jew would do that kind of thing etc... None of the witnesses was deemed a viable suspect for some reason and were never investigated, the whole thing is just a mess and a ton of pieces are missing entirely from the puzzle.
Actually I agree. Except murders weren't commonplace. I have looked at a range of unsolved murders 15 years either side of 1888 and suspect Lechmere might be guilty of about 20.
It will be interesting to see what students of Kosminsky will think of your efforts Ed. Its refreshing to have research such as this and, hopefully, it will lead to a better understanding of not only Kosminsky, but Ripperology. Detective William Thich (who I have researched in depth) openly reported that the police had absolutely no idea who the Ripper was. Thick was in close contact with Abberline both before and after the Whitechapel murders and took part in many houses to house enquiries.
I fear the response will be about Lechmere, instead of any attempt to address the problems with the Kosminski theory. That is my previous experience. Thick is an interesting character - in my view a good, on the ground copper, doing what was necessary to prevent, detect and solve 'normal' crime in the East End.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Kosminski is indeed a popular suspect, have you any plans to do some of the other popular suspects such as Jacob Levy, Joseph Barnett, William Henry Bury, Joseph Barnett, George Hutchinson or Francis Thompson.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Great, they all interest me to some degree (and that includes Lechmere) but my personal take is we simply cannot prove who JtR was, so I take the view I favour no one suspect over any other reasoned and reseached suspect. though I guess there are some that could be marked suffiently unlkely.
There's only two possibilities either Aaron kosminski is not the cause Minsky they were talking about, or they made one of the biggest blunders in history by thinking he was dead.
"The juwes are the men who will not be blamed for nothing". The graffiti found at the scene of one of the murders. (I forget who) For some reason the Police cheif had this vital evidence washed off the wall?
I had read some basic stuff about Kosminski in connection with the Ripper murders and found him to be a plausible suspect, but your presentation evaluating the sources made me see the problems with him being the ripper. His mental illness sounded far too debilitating for him to be an effective serial murderer.
I put zero stock in the idea Jack the Ripper killed himself because of his crimes. Has that ever happened? Has there ever been a documented case of a serial killer committing suicide like that? They keep offending until caught. It also seems unlikely he was a madman. The Ripper was unassuming enough to navigated the fairly crowded streets and convince prostitutes to step into alleys and yards with him. Im sure they were desperate but women would have absolutely been on guard. That said i wasnt there and didnt see Kosminski how insane was he? Gacy was insane but he managed to be a prolific worker and run several firms.
Yes, while Nichols was drunk and probably didn't care who she was with on Bucks Row, by the time we get to Annie Chapman I would have expected some caution about going with a strange foreign man into the back yard of 29 Hanbury Street because both Nichols and Tabram had recently happened.
@@TheIndependentLensYes. Truth does hurt. So perhaps you can share this elusive truth? You sound sure of it. Logic dictates that you literally cannot be sure of anything at all if you cannot provide sound evidence. And you have provided none. ZILCH. You even started out by stating "I believe" This is murder case. Not a religious or theological "belief" case.
According to the book: The Crimes of Jack the Ripper: The Whitechapel Murders Re-examined by Paul Roland; one of the more plausible Ripper suspects was a mad syphilitic Jewish butcher named Jacob Levy who lived in Middlesex Street. Under closer examination the case against Levy is a compelling one and is detailed in the book.
Excellent work, as always! This case is a good example of "profilers" making assumptions that have no basis in facts or scientific evidence. As we see in other cases: Peter Sutcliffe, JJ DeAngelo, Gary Ridgeway and many others. They are not mad and are "The ideal/perfect family man". The authorities have no idea who they are investigating because they simply can't understand anything outside their own personal frame of reference. Often leading to the conviction of innocents. How many people have taken the fall and even given false confession, because an interrogator said "confess and we will stop."?
Thank God for modern science, (DNA and forensics) profiling is still a bit of a joke and confessions are still being coerced, but those are fewer and less frequent.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Agree. They should coin a term for this investigation bias contamination. Like in the Yorkshire ripper case. They were fooled by a hoaxer "with a Jordie accent". Swamped with information. Many lessons were learned from that.
This was about as comprehensive a deconstruction of a case against as it’s possible to conceive, Mr. Stow. I used to think Aaron Kosminski a viable suspect - not anymore. Excellent research and very cogently argued.
Thank you
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Always a pleasure.
The rain they believed playing with one self was a sign of mental illness was because the Bible said it was. The Bible said this whom do it can only gain forgiveness by plucking out one's own eyes. Hence why so many Romans plucked it their eyes. It was one of the only ways to be removed from the African front. Because of its mental implications. If they couldn't control their own desires they weren't fit to be around others.
@@phillipstroll7385Fascinating motive. I hadn't heard that before
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 PLEASE APPLY THE SAME COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO A SEPARATE VIDEO ALL ABOUT THE "FROM HELL" LETTER. I love the level of research you do and I trust it. No one in my opinion has solely focused upon the "From Hell" letter only. I would love you to delve into everything about it as I believe without doubt that his is actually from JTR and the insight into his mind and frustrations are shown, cryptically I concede but nevertheless, if genuine (which I believe it to be) shows a great deal into the mindset of JTR. I want to know how the letter was delivered, my mail or hand delivered? The man it was delivered to; who was he and what impact could his committee have made on the streets of someone like JTR in terms of reduction of victims and opportunity. That letter to me smells of absolute frustration in that the writer feels cheated and angry about what that committee are doing on the streets a night to lower JTR prey availability and his fear himself of being caught as a result of that extra security being applied. On a separate note, one thing i did think of from watching your videos was how different the last victim was (Mary Kelly) from all the others. Substantially so in terms of age in particular. My understanding is that Lechmere had 12 children? Is it possible he had his fill with Kelly and therefore sated his desires given how in her case he was not rushed and got to do all the things he fantasized about? Is it possible he felt some guilt about her because he went so far, lost so much control and perhaps, she reminded him of his own daughter and his love for her/them caused him to stop? Just a thought but I think also worth investigating. Please do a video on the from hell letter though, I don't think you will ever get any closer to JTR than that letter.
Why was Mary Kelly slaughtered like that? Because the Ripper had time and was undisturbed. It didn't make him crazy, he was crazy from the start. He would have slaughtered the other victims the same way if he had enough time and without the fear of being discovered.
She was deliberately disfigured and maimed to hide her identity, because the person killed WASN’T Mary Kelly. Someone…helped her escape (to France).
It’s ironic his Andersons book came out in 1910 when Lechmere was still alive, I wander if he ever saw it or even read it, if he did he probably laughed inside.
Yes, never thought of that
No body no the fact.
He may have laughed outside, we just don't know.
Crikey. Nice observation mate.
Just randomly got this recommendation from the algorithm, not a jack ripper guy.. don’t know anything about the case(besides that it was never solved)
Excited to check this series and I’m sure it will make it into my bedtime rotation, appreciate the content dude.
With 30 years of forensic psychiatric nursing experience I agree completely that while any one of the frenzied attacks could have been the result of someone in the depths of psychosis a series of such murders would suggest the complete opposite! To suggest someone with a severe disabling mental illness would then only murder during periods of mental stability when they would need to be a sadistic sexual psychopath is highly unlikely and I can think of no such cases.
Yes!
Totally agree. I'm an LVN, I've worked the last 32 years with Dementia, schizophrenic patients in a nursing home lockdown unit. I've been my schizophrenic brother's guardian since 1996. It's very unlikely JtR was a young schizophrenic.
Well, why wouldn't it be plausible that at the earlier stages of his life he was less insane and capable of this?
@@Makaveli_93 Males usually don't start developing symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia until around 18 years of age. Females are much younger when symptoms develop. Very few serial killers are schizophrenic.
@@Makaveli_93 Sloppy, unorganized, very impulsive. Kosminski couldn't hide his crazy in the daylight. What makes you think he'd get away with this? He can't even be placed at a crime scene. He could barely speak English.
If we can't even identify the correct Kosminski there's no way we can attribute the murders to him.
Yes, and it was a convenient patsy to blame somebody in an asylum. No more than that.
Shorts was most likely seen whilst in the act. Conjecture I know but think about this. A man sees Shorts in the act and shouts Lipski and Shorts panicking runs across the street from where a woman was later found murdered. He puts himself there!!. Worried he had been seen & identified. He goes straight to police to report himself a witness. The man who shouted Lipski never comes forward. Also man with pipe never identified. Police did thorough investigation. No man with pipe. Shorts could well be JTR. Kosminski easy scapegoat.
Tony Blair repeated winston churchills words when he said
" kill one man you are a villian, kill a milion and you are a hero "
Stalin's quote "A single death is a tragedy a million deaths a statistic"
This is what I like about your content, Edward, and your friend Christer Holmgren's: you not only put forth the evidence for Lechmere's guilt, you take pains to explain *why* the police missed him in the first place. With every other suspect, people are grasping at straws now, just as Swanson and Anderson were back then. That "it was the crazy Jewish immigrant from Poland" remains the most "mainstream" theory on the Ripper's identity is just mind-boggling to me.
Top notch stuff as always Mr. Stow. Keep it coming!
Thanks, will do!
All the criminial profiling that has been done on him based on known cases has shown him to be a very likely suspect. He grew without his mother in Whitechapel. He'd gone through the pogrom of Poland probably viewing violence and sexual violence at a very young age. He had an unstable home moving with frequency. Unsteady employment. He lived at 3 Sion Place, the epicentre of the killings. All the deaths fell in his geographic profiling area.
He was an adult in Whitechapel - being without a mother as an adult is not unusual.
He didn't live a Sion Square at the time of any of the murders.
He didn't move frequently.
His lack of employment was due to mental illness. He was mentally unfit for work.
This factor pretty much eliminates him as a repeat stealthy serial killer.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 So, at the time of the murders he didn't live at 3 Sion Square?? He was born around 1864/65 when he came to Whitechapel he was in about 1881/82, so he was 17, not exactly an adult. In 1890 he was admitted to Mike End workhouse giving his address as 3 Sion Square. He moved between there and 16 Greenfield St.
Anderson got the ADL treatment by the sound of it.
Love the snark mr.Stow! One day and one night to investigate six murders lol! Outstanding work as usual!
Ha - yes! Actually only half of one night!
The background information about the London police superiors on the case is totally fascinating. Rather than assuming they were experienced and knowledgeable cops, THOL has once again provided superb research that breaks these suppositions down. All of this still leaves Charles Lechmere as the strongest suspect IMO. Great video Mr Stow!
Agreed. Can't wait for Blomer to see this video 😂🤣
Indeed. How many times are we told by the Kosminski supporters that the bigwigs knew what they were doing and thus can't have been wrong? That's been their mantra.
The sad reality the upper police hierarchy were amateur buffoons.
Blomer is two faced. In one comment he once argued he doesn't rule out Lechmere from being a suspect... but then goes on to write books on how Lechmere wasn't a suspect. Wish the man would make up he's mind.
Hey Cat! in all fairness to Blomer, he’s trying to sell his crappy books and he can’t have the case being solved! lol
Always happy when a new video comes out to watch.
I believe jack was calm, cool, calculating, and intelligent. He was not mad just bad!
I believe that he was disorganized, reckless, and probably endowed with nothing more remarkable than a low animal cunning.
A cool and calculating person would never have risked to kill Stride and Chapman and probably also Eddowes and Nichols where JTR did. He only depended on luck to get away from the murdered Chapman and during the Stride murder he was probably even witnessed by two people. It was never in his hands to get away, he just took a chance and had tremendous luck. He did not even care to be discovered, otherwise he would not have risked those murders in first place. I don't say that JTR was totally insane, but I also don't think he was as normal as many think today. He was simply a slave of his drives when he was doing what he was doing and afterwards and in between he maybe functioned reasonably, like many people.
@@bendavies8881 Tend to agree.
@FrankMcCloud
We can argue he was definitely a cool and calculating customer to work out how much time he had in Mitre Square between police beats, and he was cool and clever enough to get the job done on time.
Little risk in the back yard of Hanbury Street in the dark when people were asleep in bed.
I don't think Schwartz saw JTR. He didn't even see Stride being murdered. JTR wouldn't have pulled a victim onto the street in full view of others and then shout at one of them. What Schwartz saw was likely nothing more than a drunk being approached by a lady of the night hawking herself and he took offence and reacted with violence. I dare say that must have been a frequent occurrence.
@@lyndoncmp5751 It seems very probable to me too that he always knew exactly the routes and time schedules of the policemen. Though it can't be totally excluded that he was simply extremely lucky.
I think the risk in Hanbury Street was tremendous. Not to meet police, but one of the many tenants who lived in the building and particularly were already awake preparing for work. And even if they were sleeping, it could have easily been that a scream of the victim or just some noises could have woken up some. And most of all, he was in a trap in this backyard, he could not have escaped had someone come and there was no way for him to exclude this possibility, so this was sheer luck in the end. He could also not have been sure to not be seen when escaping from there, when stepping through the corridor and out of the door.
As for Schwartz I think that the time frame was very narrow. Like in Bucks Row. Only a few minutes maybe and here the guy beating the woman would have needed to escape quickly while JTR must have already been around the corner. And the place was a very risky one too. Diemschütz could have arrived at any time and so could have someone left the building at any time.
I always wondered why the Royal angle was pushed over the years, maybe because this is more fascinating and throws people off from looking into Kozminski
Makes my month when House of Lechmere uploads! 👏 Many thanks and I look forward to watching 🤗🙌
Happy to hear that!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Great work and I look forward to the next one 👍
Mr. Stow I think many of us look forward to your content eagerly.
Greetings from across the pond!
Extremely interesting , liked and subscribed , thank you.
Thank you all!
It's amazing to me with all the notable "Ripperologists" out there, none of them agree on any suspect. I have to admit that's part of the reason I find all the research so interesting.
Aaron was JACK.
@@freddyfurrah3789No.
It’s because they alll want to be right.
@@freddyfurrah3789Evidence?
@noahbrock349 In 2019, they did DNA from the only remaining evidence of the crimes. The DNA tested back through ancestry with seven on the scarf to Aaron. People still argue it amd claim the scarf did not come from the crime scenes etc...but there you have it, DNA seminal fluid from him.
Thank you for visiting the locations and providing a "just the facts," style of narration. You are so good at this, should you conclude with your investigations, and you want to continue this style of reporting, please consider going through the Annotated Sherlock Holmes and discuss the real cases that inspired many of the Sherlock Holmes stories, perhaps in a second channel. I don't know if it's of interest to you, but even a tour of all the stories, inspired by true crime or not, would be extremely entertaining for a very large audience and you have the style of delivery that would make it thoroughly enjoyable.
Nice idea, but a hell of a lot of work for somebody not familiar with that topic. I don't know if Ed is or isn't but I think he has his hands full with the Jack The Ripper topic still.
no one suspected Lechmere because he was normal and i suspect he kept killing
Thousands of other "normal" people there at the time too.
Where any of them found standing next to a freshly slain corpse that showed signs that the culprit had been disturbed?
@@leejames1792Who were the thousands of people seen standing around Polly Nichols just killed dead body in Bucks Row? Answers on a postage stamp please.
My granddad was told by detective Abberline that Jack the ripper was Kosminski. He told him he didn't think Liz Stride was a victim of the ripper and said a woman who had been chopped up had been pulled out the Thames before the murders. That's why they closed the case after Mary Kelly was killed.
My granddad and his brother had been raised in the workhouse in Hounslow, grandad was in the WW1as a sniper. Great uncle Tom was a bare knuckle fighter who would go round the pubs of London fighting. Abberline was a boozer. He said he personally and another policeman had taken kosminski to Colney Hatch asylum aftermary kellys murder. Abberline said the police fucked up. They were watching kosminski but he managed to kill again that's when it was decided to commit him to an asylum.
I've thought about this overwhelming years.i think abberline was telling most of the truth but not quite all of it. Abberline was adrunk I think him saying they had messed up was not totally the truth. I think the cops did indeed get Jack the ripper into custody and I think they had nothing on him unless he confessed so they gave him a beating and killed him. That's why they knew to close the case and seal it.
But that's just my take on it. My grandmother wouldn't believe what granddad told her: she was a republican and hated the royal family, she wouldn't have it that one of them wasn't involved and thats why it was shut, and hushed up. I belive granddad.
You should write that up and sell the story
Sorry to disagree. I believe granddads story. But for I believe Abbeline? Not so much. I think the one thing everyone can be sure of is the police closed and sealed the case pretty soon after the last accepted murder. So they had to have known pretty conclusively that the murder spree was over. Serial killers are notoriously hard to catch, and much harder to prove it. They couldn't even tell animal blood from human at the time. So I think they got him and, accidently or otherwise, killed him. Kosminski or not, they knew. I always found it funny that my granddad said abberline, falling down drunk had said they fucked up. That's something police don't like to admit. To my mind, that is the clincher. They beat him to get a confession and he died of it and they hushed it up. How far up the cover up went, who knows. But you seem to be a researcher, it would be interesting to see if anyone died in police custody at the time, or who was arrested if possible. It might be a lead worth investigating.
@saydvoncripps
The case was not closed for years as far as I know. It was still ongoing and later murders such as Alice McKenzie were thought of as Ripper murders at the time.
The case wasn't officially closed until 1892.
@@saydvoncripps I suspect the case was closed in 1892 because
1 There had been no obvious series of killings that the media tied to JTR for several years so the pressure was off. One off crimes that might be tied to him could be explained away as unrelated.
2 The police had come up with an internal theory or narrative(suicide; committed to an asylum) that satisfied the higher ups simply so that they could close the case and get away with it. In other words the top was very receptive to the idea of closing the case. And thus was duly supplied.
3 Policing is primarily about resource allocation and the higher ups love it when they can close a case and move those resources elsewhere. If it cant be solved then the next best thing is a plausible reason to suppose that there is closure (ie there wont be any more of this particular murder series).
4 The key variable in all of this is media/public/political pressure. Cos that affects the higher ups the most. Once the hue and cry died down the pressure was to close the case one way or another. And move on.
And so they did.....the mcnaugtan memorandum is not a summary of a police investigation. Its a cover yer arse political document that explains why the case was close.
Wow what an excellent, thorough and damning riposte to the entire Kosminski theory. I've not seen a more exhaustive video on Kosminski. Everyone who favours Kosminski must watch this and take great heed. I'll have to watch it again to take it all in. Well done to you Ed. Brilliant.
What I find incredible is the 'it would have been of no public benefit to reveal the identity of the killer' spiel. Seriously? No benefit for the public to know the most famous serial killer ever? How convenient of an excuse that was.
"They don't need to know so we don't need to tell them!". Oh my goodness 😂.
If they really knew they would have shouted it from the rooftops
@@thehouseoflechmere9407
They certainly would have done, if only to protect their own police reputation...."we got our man, here he is, this is his name" etc.
What exactly is it you feel is a riposte here?
I tend to favor Kosminski as a suspect, but i fail to see how exactly this is supposed to really attack that position.
But maybe you can tell me, what argument here you find particularly strong?
@@Pawsk
Firstly I think it's clear to anyone familiar with serial killer cases through history that an outwardly abnormal person like Kosminski is absolutely not logically viable as Jack The Ripper.
Secondly it's blindingly obvious that the police didn't have a clue who the Ripper was or the type of person he was so their opinions are worthless and based on nothing but the prevailing mindset of the time, which we know today were outdated and misguided.
Thirdly, Jack The Ripper wouldn't have been placed in Colney Hatch and Leavesden. The most infamous, brutal and terrifying killer of the times in Colney Hatch and Leavesden? No. Just no. The police bigwigs were merely trying to save the reputation of their profession. Nothing more.
@jannickfranck3864
My reply seems to have disappeared. At least, I can't see it.
Mary Kelly would have known Jack the Ripper. Letting him into her house ? I don't think she would have let just anyone into her house. They would have had to look a person of means at least.
She could probably charge more for that ! Probably all it boils down to I’m afraid
@@mikepotts2470she had literally asked Barnett to read her reports of the murders and was on her guard. No chance she brings a Jewish lunatic into millers court
It would be interesting to investigate the connection. In a previous video I believe it was suggested that Lechmere could have known Kelly.
I was thinking about this the other day. It's not certain that Kelly knew the murderer. It is possible. She was heard singing into the night. This implies being drunk - especially as a lot of people were almost continually drunk back then. A neighbour heard someone shout / cry murder. But this is not the only ripper crime scene where that occurred. But most tellingly, that window beside the door was broken. The murderer could of removed the rag, peered in to see Kelly laying on the bed, opened the door that was just a couple of feet from the window, whereupon Kelly might of heard something or felt a breeze and called out just as she was silenced.
But it is of course all pure hypothesis.
@awotnot
Hmmmm but why would JTR be going around peering through windows for victims though? His method was to find them on the streets, and plenty of women were still on the streets. There was a long gap between Eddowes and Kelly and people's guards had relaxed a bit.
JTR wouldn't have needed to become a peeping tom. I suspect he was taken to Kelly's abode, not randomly spied on it. UNLESS of course he knew Kelly and where she lived so planned it out beforehand. Then your theory could be correct.
Either way, Kelly isn't bringing somebody like Kosminski home.
You have a real career as a researcher! Well done!!
Thank you for another great video Edward can't wait for the next one
Glad you enjoyed it
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! KEEP UPLOADING THEY ARE SO NICE! Now for real, you are the only person I know that keeps bringing new questions to this subject the others are just asking the same questions for no reason. It's not like they are going to ever solve the case by doing the same things over again.
Thank you! Will do!
Your knowledge and attention to detail is amazing.
I can’t recall ever hearing the name ‘Sadler’ before!
Thank you very much!
Some of the most compelling to-date I must watch again t y.
And again...
Why would they take a suspect believed to be JTR to a common workhouse and not Broadmoor ? He must surely have been considered very dangerous?
Yes exactly
Hehe excellent point. Well played.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 are you still gonna write a book?
@@thedisabledwelshman9266
Yes!
It's intellectually lazy to write off the Ripper as a sexual lunatic. He seems very accutely aware of the social and politicsl condition of the area at the time--and even exploited it, yelling "Lipsky" at an onlooker, causing the onlooker and another possible eyewitness to get spooked and run off. This was at the site of the first murder the night of the "double event." He seemed able to create illusion of actual purpose in case he was caught or interrupted. It was all planned, or roughly coreographed in his head. He was changing his wardrobe quite a bit and was aware enough of the vast population of the area to know to always have his back towards possible onlookers. He was acutely aware enough to create subterfuge. He knew the lighting was dim, etc... which also factors into the skill of his crimes. To be able to pull off his deeds so quickly and expertly in that poor lighting was incredible. I think he also realized how inept the police were, possibly that factored into his initial plan for even attempting such dastardly deeds. Apparently, there were parts of White Chapel that police wouldn't venture into without a partner or two.
Keep em coming bro another excellent job as always. Idk how I missed two new videos but I’m happy now I can binge em at work
Isn’t Kosminski the current Luton town fc goalkeeper?
Fantastic video once again can we applaud Ed on his incredible work and time he puts in to these videos always fascinating and so well put together!
Thank you
Another interesting episode, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Edward as always 👍🇮🇪
Thanks 👍
It’s almost unthinkable that JTR was some crazed lunatic, wild-eyed and foaming at the mouth. Whilst he was certainly abnormal, he had to have been able to offer at least a veneer of plausibility, to engage with his victims, persuade them to go with him and then, slip away unnoticed thereafter.
Exactly
Great stuff and as always a real treat to listen to your research regarding the darker side of social and criminal history.
Thanks
Your research challenges given theories we are made to take for granted. This is brilliant in rigour and methodology. Thank you. The videos also provide visual details that enable the audience to appreciate the case you put to us.
Glad you like them!
Bloody good channel. No bias. No twerking. Proper research 👍
Just out of curiosity, but is the general concencus, that Anderson and Swanson were straight up lying, or do people generally think that there was in fact a witnessidentification of JtR, but Anderson had no reason to be as convinced as he was?
I don't think they were lying. I think they convinced themselves but wrongly
@@thehouseoflechmere9407
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Yes they had misguided beliefs, just as George Oldfield and co did in Yorkshire in the 1970s.
I think the trend at the top was increasingly anti-Jewish rhetoric and that fact alone swayed their racist mindsets. It had to be a Jew. Whilst another Jew had to conceal the truth because he did not want to implicate his Jewish brethren. I think both men batted the ball between one another and between them they concocted the narrative.
This is not say they were lying. Perhaps deluded would be a better word. They deluded themselves into thinking it must of been Kosminski because he was Jewish. Although I accept that I'm merely repeated Ed's words here.
Another great upload btw Ed.
Fascinating info.
Outstanding approach to researching this subject. Exceptional 👏!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well, I was settled on kosminsky being the ripper until watching this very well done presentation.
Good!
Of course, the big police bosses would have hated to go down in history as having completely and utterly failed on this case. Even if it was years after the murders, there had to be some saving of face. I think that's why Anderson wrote what he did.
Agree
42:30 “ in the Victorian period, mental illness and serial killing were both poorly understood”
That sums up the case against Kosminski
Does anyone else ever get the idea that after 136 years, Edward and Christer are the only two people who've actually put any *real* research into this?
That is a nonsense statement, plenty of experts on this case over the years, totally disrespectful.
@@leejames1792 "Totally disrespectful" to whom exactly? You?
Think it was Michael Connor that picked up on Lechmere then dropped it because he was getting frenzied attacks from deniers. Edward and Christer certainly did pick up on it and bought Lechmere to where he is at today. Others to worried about getting abuse from other so called Ripperologist who cling on for dear life to their suspects.
I believe many people have put forth suspects they genuinely believe in and have done some great research. However, I believe Mr. Stow and Christer have put forth the most plausible version, with all due respect to their predecessors.
@@leejames1792Seems you are the one who is disrespectful. You should respect other people's suspects. You always have the choice to leave the room and shut the door behind you. Maybe this channel is a bit to sensitive for you.
Excellent video. Also love how the guy uses a knife to point at the maps. Nice touch!
Another excellent video Ed.
Glad you enjoyed it
The accounts I have read make no mention of any siblings of Kosminski that the police were able to locate. He is not known to have ever lived with siblings, if he had any. HE lived in the barbershop where he was employed, doing only minor, unskilled tasks such as sweeping and washing the floor after hours, He was only very rarely allowed to cut a patron's hair. At one point he did get into a fight with another employee and threw a chair at him. His co-worker was injured, a broken arm I think, but recovered. It was after this incident that his employer contacted the asylum for the insane ask asked that Kosminski be committed. Kosminski raised no objections, and a local magistrate approved the employer's request. This was the beginning and end of Kosminski's "criminal career,"
The "homicidal maniac" who stands out from the crowd and kills himself out of self-loathing is a very Victorian caricature that has nothing to do with real serial killers. They are experts at seeming perfectly normal and take huge amounts of pride and joy in their acts. They never take their own lives, always give up without a struggle when caught, and always brag to anyone who will listen about every nasty detail. None of them ever really stops until he physically can't do it anymore. Some start up again years or decades after seeming to stop. They are true psychopaths who consider only their own pleasure and feel no guilt or empathy.
Jack might have moved elsewhere, died, or been otherwise stopped, but he certainly didn't end himself in a satisfying little morality play like some Victorian version of a Shakespeare character.
All the other keyboard ripperologists who are too lazy or perhaps in capable of doing this sort of film work are very jealous of Mr Stows work...well to be precise they are angry that he has reached millions of viewers and they almost all agree with his view.
Yes it's a worry for them.
This particular film has led to some nutty responses
@rdmountford3132 Totally agree.
How do we know that Anderson wasn't the ripper?
One would have thought that if Kosminski was a 'known lunatic in Whitechapel' then the victims given their profession, would have known to avoid him.
Indeed
Yes. Those poor women would have gone willingly to the place where they were murdered. So most likely the culprit was respectable or charming in nature (a psychopath), extremely ordinary and therefore beyond suspicion (given the sensationalism around the crimes as being the work of a 'madman') or was someone known to to the victims but who was considered harmless/trustworthy. Other much less likely theories for the victims compliance in going with their killer are that JTR was a woman or a police constable but its hardly worth exploring those avenues.
Victims = Prostitutes
Prostitutes = want money
While recovering from a touch of gout, I just watched this episode. Thanks, Edward I found it most informative. For me his medical history is at odds with what appears to be a cool, calculating, yet deranged person. It is clear he had a plan - for example, to get no obvious blood on him; to kill in such a way that allows this. And if that did not work, he was cool enough to evade capture and clean himself up. So this for me does not fit a deranged person - a person that would most likely be caught covered in blood. So for me, I hate to say it, the killer was a predator - bent on his twisted mission - whatever that was. Anyway, thanks for the episode.
And how is that gout feeling now?
@@Cami-kd4zl Thanks for asking. Took a few days, but came good. find fresh pineapple helps.
Kosminski was indeed Jack the Ripper.
If you are of another opinion, don’t be so lazy. State your case!
@@TheBeautifulWindsofAragonforensics proved it a few years ago.
@@TheBeautifulWindsofAragon semen and blood was on eddowes clothes
@@LonelyGamr Has there been DNA proof?
@@TheBeautifulWindsofAragonNo
Great research and analysis. It does seem like the police at the time may have been overly concerned in looking for someone who had specific traits and profile. Which ultimately may have been to the detriment of the investigation.
Great stuff...Yes, Chiefs of Police and such love to PIN a suspect not to admit defeat! Still goes on ...a lot! .Really enjoy your work Sir. Thank You.
Absolutely love your attention to detail regarding facts. Liked & Subscribed, though I’m not convinced about your suspect……yet.
Much appreciated!
Nay, nay and thrice nay ! (ooh missus !)
Anderson had no previous experience of policing, and neither do I, so I think we’re both equally qualified and entitled to offer an opinion.
He personified all that was “bumbling and bureaucratic” about the Police hierarchy of the time (a description which was to be inherited by men orchestrating the slaughter of the first war).
In 1888 Kosminski fitted the bill but, as progress and knowledge are now revealing, it was the wrong bill.
Not the crazed maniac, but the individual who you might notice least.
Jack the Ripper “might” have been caught by chance by the “honest copper” on the beat but probably not by Andersons flimsy at best and, in my opinion, wide of the mark deductions.
A very thorough and entertaining film which torpedoes Anderson’s and Swansons theories and ultimately the Kosminski theory.
Great post. Nicely put.
Excellent work sir. While Kosminski is the "favorite" suspect theres too much about him that makes him unlikely to be JTR. Speaking from 25 yrs experience around criminals he just doesnt fit the crimes.
I have to disagree at 42:50 There are well-documented cases of serial killers who are extremely mentally ill (paranoid schizoids etc,.) displaying planning, forethought- Richard Ramirez for example. It's not out of the realm of what we know about serial killing.
Schizophrenic and mental illness didn't influence his sentencing. Would he have been committed to an asylum had he not been apprehended for murder? No.
If we ever knew for sure who Jack was he'd be as plain and boring as Raider or Ridgeway.
I like to review these researches. Thank you and good luck. ❤
One of the most interesting parts in this video comes at 37:00 -- that people were supposed to give their real name in legal matters. It is obvious, of course, despite blabber from other Ripperologists, and Lechmere didn't do it. Another interesting question is this: _Why_ did Victorians so often hide themselves behind false names? In Whitechapel, it seems as almost everyone did it, even in their everyday lives.
The people we meet in.the Ripper tale aren't typical Victorians. They are often people from the bottom level of society among whom alternative names are more common. Lechmere wasn't from that class.
Thank you! I was just going to add some comment about Charles Cross, I mean Lechmere.
In a word, No. One of many police suspects with not a single shread of evidence against him. The true killer will never be known.
Nathan Kaminsky was Jack The Ripper. He was a cobbler’s assistant on the Whitechapel Road & lived at Black Lion Yard. He contracted syphilis from a prostitute (in those days a fatal condition). He developed all the attributes McNaughton ascribes to Kosminsky, especially his hatred of women. As the syphilis caused his mental degeneration so his crimes became worse. Just after the Mary Kelly murder he was arrested for attacking two women in the street in broad daylight and after a brief interview taken to Colney Hatch asylum. He refused to give his name so was called officially David Cohen, a Jewish version of John Smith or John Doe. He was transferred to Bethel Asylum where he died in early 1889 from syphilis. Aaron Kosminsky was a Whitechapel resident who had a mental illness. He had a pathological aversion to washing. He was a placid man with no propensity to violence, except on one occasion when he threatened his sister with a knife (probably because she threatened him with a flannel).
lol
It was kosminski they found his dna on an artifact belonging to victim sold at auction
@@MostWantedHitman There is zero proof the shawl belonged to the victim and the dna they found on it also belonged to thousands of other people besides him. This whole story has been debunked repeatedly
Have you heard of the claim that DNA, from a schal and via relatives, links Kosminski to the case?
BRILLIANT! Loved this! And now it puts to rest, in my mind, that Aaron Kosminski was Jack The Ripper.
He wasn’t.
@@OoxB505he was
Really enjoying the videos in long form.
A new THoL video = a great start to the weekend! 😃
Did the police house-to-house search area reach as far as 22 Doveton Street? If so, I suppose they will have quickly moved on and not questioned the "normal, respectable, hardworking, English family man" who was head of that household.
No I provided a map of the search area which was the western half of Whitechapel and the Southern half of Spitalfields North of Whitechapel Road
@thehouseoflechmere9407 Thanks, just been back and had a look.
Definitely a lot of information.
Would you make more of an impact by organizing the presentation of the information?
One of the most interesting documentaries on JTR. Much food for thought. Thank you for the video. From South Carolina. 😊😊😊
Thank you
@@thehouseoflechmere9407so much packed in. Most RUclips channels would be at least double the length, with the same information, and a TV documentary would have to have 10 series of 8 episodes each, just for this one 50 min video.
I commend your commitment to the truth, and when something is ambiguous, your deductive reasoning is virtually beyond reproach, imo.
I feel Kozminski is one of the least likely Ripper suspects of all. He was clearly suffering severely from his paranoid delusions, which caused him to have a pathological fear of washing and eating. My guess is that these fears would have been a problem for a serial killer who was known to remove the victim’s organs. Eventually, he would have had to find a way to get the blood off or he would have been caught.
I really like your jacket sir, and your videos!
Glad to hear it!
My boss is going to fire the employee with the worst posture. I have a hunch, it might be me.
Every. Single. Time.
Brilliant video as always Ed, lot of work gone into that mate Kosminski wasn’t responsible for the JTR murders simple as that
It's worthwhile to remember the ripper very probably woulda looked very plain , like serial killers do . "Is that him ?! " No way ?? , really?" would have been the likely response on his capture
" The police didn't understand serial killers back then
They were looking for overtly crazy people. The myth took over and helped hide him. I do believe it was lechmere aka cross and he should have been caught after nicholls or at least ruled out and interrogated . He cpuldnt believe his luck
Love your work mate.
Much appreciated
Gr8 Stuff Edward....Amazingly closed-minded were the Authorities,....Kosminski , Cohen & Kaminsky, maybe all of them the same person, not-likely to be JTR, as they didn't have their English Language Skills at a level where the Victims wud feel comfortable with them and go into an isolated place without being frightened of their appearance, as well....Kosminski was not dressed as a sailor, so the women wud have been wary of those with an accent that wasn't a sailor...More likely, JTR was someone the women had seen around the area before and did not feel threatened....If Kosminski murdered during lucid periods, highly unlikely that wud be the case, he wud have been caught by The Police who were everywhere when the murders occurred, as he wudn't have had escape plans, as U said, Edward........The Vigilance Groups about Whitechapel, like George Lusk's Committee, for sure wud have caught him, as well and I read Policemen were dressed as prostitutes to try and catch JTR, too.....Don't know how true that was, but the point is, JTR wud have been caught near a victim, if the perpetrator had a major mental illness...If any of the Letters to Police from JTR were written and sent by Kosminski, I doubt that he wud be able to do that with any plan.. The From Hell Letter, is likely to be the only one that is genuine and is not signed JTR, just 'catch me when U can Mishter Lusk', as it was sent to him not the Police....Kosminski and the DNA evidence has been rejected and the reality is Kosminski wudn't have been roaming the streets in Whitechapel, not knowing where he was and then murdering the women...The Beat Policemen wud have seen him and detained him, but this never happened...Cheers fm Damo🤔👍
Exactly
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Keep 'em coming, Edward....Cheers fm Damo😊👏
What's crazy is how this happened all those years ago, and we still somehow know the names of a lot of the people who lived in the area.
8:47 my lord!!! Such idiotic and biased comments…. I imagined that the police had done a very bad job in this case but now I’m sure they never caught him because they clearly didn’t care….😮
I think they cared a lot - but they were blinded by Victorian attitudes and prejudices.
Another thought..why does hardly anyone mention the coins left at one murder scene?
why do they think the killer hated women? he was probably married with daughters
I think it’s outdated Victorian era rationale. Only 30 years prior to these murders, scientists were removing convicted, executed criminal’s brains and looking for abnormalities to indicate a murderous disposition.
Interestinly this is one of the few videos on this channel that I am more or less in agreement with. Anderson and Swanson had shown impressive levels of incompetence and indifference to the case, and it's not entirely beyond the realm of possibility that they just found some sort of scapegoat to latch on to, who happened to be a Polish jew. I do not believe that the murderer was poor Charles Lechmere, but it wasn't Kosminski either.
Without question, this video puts the final nail in this Kosminski nonsense. Another great one.
Yes, hopefully the Kosminski nonsense will disappear or at least become a very outdated theory.
Lol kosmenski is jack there is a lof of evidence @@lyndoncmp5751
Since you can't go back and re-interview the witnesses that Scotland Yard failed to properly interview and make sure weren't lying the entire thing is unsolvable, there's just not enough pieces to solve the puzzle. Hell people are so stuck on the "canonical 5" they don't even consider that no other serial killer in history has ever simply sprang into action out of nowhere and started the series. There's always a murder before sometimes a couple years, sometimes 10 years before, which predates the series, the Ripper would've been no exception but no "ripperologist" seems to care to find the earlier murders.
There's no decisive metrics on how many murders overall were taking place in Whitechapel at that point and in the 10 years before and after and how those stack up against 1888 so you cannot make the argument this was all the work of a single individual even, if murder was commonplace in Whitechapel who's to say that Stride for example is a Ripper victim? There's nothing to base that on decisively, and due to differences in the M.O it's entirely arguable Stride wasn't a Ripper victim and yet the star witness is a Stride witness, so that's a major problem right there.
You'd need a list of all murders in that and surrounding areas for the 10 years before and after the canonical 5, you'd need to re-interview the witnesses to find out which ones were lying or not and for which ones the story remains verbatim after a few weeks so you can arrange which ones are more believable, you'd need to conduct more extensive profiles and backgrounds for all suspects, the victorian lists should all be dismissed since they're all based on a lot of racial bias and nonsense. Some because it's presumed homosexuals hated women, others because of Lipski and the racist idea that only a Jew would do that kind of thing etc...
None of the witnesses was deemed a viable suspect for some reason and were never investigated, the whole thing is just a mess and a ton of pieces are missing entirely from the puzzle.
Actually I agree. Except murders weren't commonplace. I have looked at a range of unsolved murders 15 years either side of 1888 and suspect Lechmere might be guilty of about 20.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407is that including the Thames torso murders ?
@@Jayjaymk1978yes
Kosminski had mental illness and loved in the area . I think that's as far as it goes . I've never found his case for a suspect in any way compelling.
Aaron was JACK.
Aaron hated women
Didn’t these reports also name “dr t”?
It will be interesting to see what students of Kosminsky will think of your efforts Ed. Its refreshing to have research such as this and, hopefully, it will lead to a better understanding of not only Kosminsky, but Ripperology. Detective William Thich (who I have researched in depth) openly reported that the police had absolutely no idea who the Ripper was. Thick was in close contact with Abberline both before and after the Whitechapel murders and took part in many houses to house enquiries.
I fear the response will be about Lechmere, instead of any attempt to address the problems with the Kosminski theory. That is my previous experience.
Thick is an interesting character - in my view a good, on the ground copper, doing what was necessary to prevent, detect and solve 'normal' crime in the East End.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Kosminski is indeed a popular suspect, have you any plans to do some of the other popular suspects such as Jacob Levy, Joseph Barnett, William Henry Bury, Joseph Barnett, George Hutchinson or Francis Thompson.
@@theobjectivethinker64
Yes!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Great, they all interest me to some degree (and that includes Lechmere) but my personal take is we simply cannot prove who JtR was, so I take the view I favour no one suspect over any other reasoned and reseached suspect. though I guess there are some that could be marked suffiently unlkely.
My Great Great Great Grandmother was the first victim of Jack the Rippper. very sad
Seriously? Polly Nichols? Or Martha Tabram?
There's only two possibilities either Aaron kosminski is not the cause Minsky they were talking about, or they made one of the biggest blunders in history by thinking he was dead.
"The juwes are the men who will not be blamed for nothing". The graffiti found at the scene of one of the murders. (I forget who) For some reason the Police cheif had this vital evidence washed off the wall?
Yes
It wasn't at the murder scene .
@@TheSavagederek
True
@@TheSavagederek Down an alley way I think
But I hear no connection to having such good knife work!
Jack the Ripper was clearly a highly intelligent person,demented but intelligent
I had read some basic stuff about Kosminski in connection with the Ripper murders and found him to be a plausible suspect, but your presentation evaluating the sources made me see the problems with him being the ripper. His mental illness sounded far too debilitating for him to be an effective serial murderer.
I put zero stock in the idea Jack the Ripper killed himself because of his crimes. Has that ever happened? Has there ever been a documented case of a serial killer committing suicide like that? They keep offending until caught.
It also seems unlikely he was a madman. The Ripper was unassuming enough to navigated the fairly crowded streets and convince prostitutes to step into alleys and yards with him. Im sure they were desperate but women would have absolutely been on guard. That said i wasnt there and didnt see Kosminski how insane was he? Gacy was insane but he managed to be a prolific worker and run several firms.
Yes, while Nichols was drunk and probably didn't care who she was with on Bucks Row, by the time we get to Annie Chapman I would have expected some caution about going with a strange foreign man into the back yard of 29 Hanbury Street because both Nichols and Tabram had recently happened.
I can believe Kosminski was Jack the Ripper much more so than Charles Cross/Lechmere.
Hilarious. Not a jot of evidence for Kosminski and he doesn't fit the profile.
@@lyndoncmp5751 ton of evidence for him unlike the speculation and twisting of logic for Lechmere. Truth hurts.
@@TheIndependentLensYes. Truth does hurt.
So perhaps you can share this elusive truth?
You sound sure of it.
Logic dictates that you literally cannot be sure of anything at all if you cannot provide sound evidence. And you have provided none. ZILCH.
You even started out by stating "I believe"
This is murder case. Not a religious or theological "belief" case.
According to the book: The Crimes of Jack the Ripper: The Whitechapel Murders Re-examined by Paul Roland; one of the more plausible Ripper suspects was a mad syphilitic Jewish butcher named Jacob Levy who lived in Middlesex Street. Under closer examination the case against Levy is a compelling one and is detailed in the book.
I will do a film in Levy soon...
Excellent work, as always! This case is a good example of "profilers" making assumptions that have no basis in facts or scientific evidence. As we see in other cases: Peter Sutcliffe, JJ DeAngelo, Gary Ridgeway and many others. They are not mad and are "The ideal/perfect family man". The authorities have no idea who they are investigating because they simply can't understand anything outside their own personal frame of reference. Often leading to the conviction of innocents. How many people have taken the fall and even given false confession, because an interrogator said "confess and we will stop."?
Thank God for modern science, (DNA and forensics) profiling is still a bit of a joke and confessions are still being coerced, but those are fewer and less frequent.
Most 'Ripperologists' don't understand anything outside their own frame of reference and still engage in fruitless 'hunt the looney' escapades.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Agree. They should coin a term for this investigation bias contamination. Like in the Yorkshire ripper case. They were fooled by a hoaxer "with a Jordie accent". Swamped with information. Many lessons were learned from that.
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Bullshit
@@dcmastermindfirst9418yes it's bull that Lechmere is Jack .
That was very well presented Good Sir
Thank you kindly