David Cohen And Nathan Kaminsky - Jack The Ripper Suspects.

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • In this video, Steven Blomer and Richard Jones discuss three Jack the Ripper suspects. The three are David Cohen, Nathan Kaminsky, and Aaron Kosminski.
    All of them were twenty-three years old, and all of them have, at one time or another, found themselves put forward as contenders for the mantle of having been Jack the Ripper.
    David Cohen was arrested in December 1888 as a wandering lunatic, and, following his appearance at the Thames Police Court was sent to an asylum.
    When Sir Robert Anderson, who at the time of the Whitechapel murders had been the Assistant Metropolitan Police Commissioner wrote his memoirs, he stated that, contrary to the popular belief, the police had in fact caught Jack the Ripper and that he was a low born Polish Jew living in the heart of the area. Unfortunately, he didn't actually name his suspect.
    In 1987, whilst writing his book, "The Crimes, Detection, and Death of Jack the Ripper," Martin Fido set out to find whether or not Anderson's suspect could be the Kosminski who had been mentioned by the Melville Macnaghten in a list of three likely suspects.
    Martin couldn't find any Kosminski who fitted the bill.
    But he did find a David Cohen, and thus a new suspect was put forward.
    In this video, Steven and Richard explore what has to be one of the most tangled theories concerning the Jack the Ripper murders.

Комментарии • 288

  • @PerryCJamesUK
    @PerryCJamesUK Год назад +45

    God Bless Mr Fido. One of the very first people to make me want to be a detective and investigate things instead of just accepting what I've been told. RIP a true gent.

  • @rockys201
    @rockys201 Год назад +48

    RIP to Martin Fido. He had charisma and brilliance that will never be equalled

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Год назад +4

      Agreed Fido was brilliant Total class act

    • @karenlittle3339
      @karenlittle3339 Год назад +5

      Richard is his equal both brilliant narrators

  • @davethomasatemyhamster
    @davethomasatemyhamster Год назад +48

    Kozminski Kominski and Cohen sounds like a firm of solicitors 😃

    • @paulchristodoulou7973
      @paulchristodoulou7973 Год назад +5

      A good one at that

    • @paulmichael5527
      @paulmichael5527 Год назад

      Retainer ok

    • @davidhallett8783
      @davidhallett8783 11 месяцев назад +2

      They re in the same building as dewey cheatham and howe

    • @legitbeans9078
      @legitbeans9078 11 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely more of an accounting firm since they are all jooz

    • @kevinmcgovern5110
      @kevinmcgovern5110 7 месяцев назад

      I thought they were the three astronauts in hibernation, along for the ride with Bowman & Poole in 2001: A Space Odyssey…😅

  • @eesoo5420
    @eesoo5420 Год назад +25

    I know Lechmere is all the rage right now and is incredibly suspicious, but David Cohen, to me, is almost certainly the ripper.

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 6 месяцев назад

      The killer wouldn't have just stayed there waiting to be seen so Lechmere is a dud as a suspect. Look up George Chapman, real name Severin Klosowski.

    • @avostorm8111
      @avostorm8111 6 месяцев назад +1

      Cross?

    • @richardwakefield3178
      @richardwakefield3178 5 месяцев назад +5

      I think we can safely disregard Aaron Kosminsky. Kaminsky or Kaminsky/Cohen however, I feel like we are just one piece of evidence away.

    • @markwolfshohl6562
      @markwolfshohl6562 5 месяцев назад +5

      Lechmere/ Cross. NOT the Ripper!

    • @avostorm8111
      @avostorm8111 5 месяцев назад

      I was thinking a fun twist would be the French Ripper was Jack. Did almost the same exact thing. Granted he would have only been 18 at the time.@@richardwakefield3178

  • @taranullius9221
    @taranullius9221 Год назад +28

    "X person wasn't violent in the asylum ergo not capable" has always bothered me so much. Many of the most famous serial killers weren't violent either at home or in prison. It's just not something that should ever be put on a list to rule someone out as a suspect. There's nothing to me to suggest JTR was a raving lunatic. He knew how to evade.

    • @taranullius9221
      @taranullius9221 Год назад +1

      He, like so many of them, hated women, not random people in prison. They're not all ASPDs who can't control their temper.

    • @taranullius9221
      @taranullius9221 Год назад +4

      ...and they're certainly not all lunatics. Back then they had a broader understanding of the term and a broader number of reasons why someone would be institutionalised. It's just bad history and bad psychology.

    • @walkietalkietraveller2932
      @walkietalkietraveller2932 Год назад +3

      excellent point, Tara. similarly, we are now coming to learn that it is possible for appalling killers to stop and simply live out the remainder of their lives, quietly, in anonymity.

    • @Charles-oo8bq
      @Charles-oo8bq Год назад

      It's likely the inmate would be doped up as well..

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 6 месяцев назад

      Try Severin Klosowski, changed his name to George Chapman & as such - hung in 1903. @@Charles-oo8bq

  • @davesmith7432
    @davesmith7432 Год назад +48

    The first time I heard of David Cohen was from Martin Fido. His JTR series on YT is brilliant. RIP Martin. As always, great job Rich!

    • @karljunge
      @karljunge Год назад +2

      Martin Fido is a delight and a gift to ripperology

  • @omarhamid3638
    @omarhamid3638 Год назад +17

    I’m loving this series of interviews with different authors about their varied and all interesting respective theories. Thanks very much 👍

  • @prowl06
    @prowl06 Год назад +13

    It has been my experience that men who target women exclusively for their violent tendencies rarely are willing to be violent towards men or people in authority. Kosminski’s relatively peaceful behaviour once incarcerated isn’t exculpatory in my opinion.

    • @The1Floyd
      @The1Floyd Год назад

      Most serial killers in prison are extremely calm and some even refer to them as pleasant.
      Fakers like Charles Manson for example tried hard to appear violent in prison for his reputation.
      So I agree with you completely. A lot of people who study the Ripper tend to ignore the tendencies of Serial killers we actually caught.

    • @williampilling32
      @williampilling32 Год назад

      In some more modern instances once incarcerated serial killers have proven themselves to be very adept at convincing medical staff that they are fine and no longer a threat. People like kemper, unterweger and shawcross were released only to kill again after convincing everyone that they had reformed.

  • @tophers3756
    @tophers3756 Год назад +35

    I urge anyone hesitant to read Martin Fido's book because they don't agree with his assessment of Cohen to rethink that decision. The great majority of the work is factual examination of the killings, the victims, and the effects on the community. It's a wonderful resource.

    • @adoculos4521
      @adoculos4521 Год назад +6

      You do know that all these experts are only giving their opinion don't you? There is no actual evidence against ANY suspect and we will never know who JtR was.

    • @tophers3756
      @tophers3756 Год назад +3

      @@adoculos4521 my comment still stands. I didn't say anyone knew who JtR was. I said that even if you disagree with Fido's theory regarding Cohen his book is filled with FACTS of the case, eg, information on the crime scenes, the victim's lives, the area of Whitechapel, etc. Therefore it's worth reading. The Cohen hypothesis takes up a rather small portion near the end of the book.

    • @carollawrenson5931
      @carollawrenson5931 Год назад +6

      Fido is an excellent researcher and an even better writer and narrator. I have been a fan of his work for years!

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Год назад +1

      @@adoculos4521 Well. There is a ton of circumstantial evidence against Charles Allen Lechmere. He's the best suspect by far.

  • @tjmusic8697
    @tjmusic8697 Год назад +8

    I really like Steven!
    I agree. I think Kosminski is the ripper. He just fits too well.
    Something I just read that I don't think they mentioned is that we have at least multiple lines of evidence favoring Andersons suspect being identified with Aaron Kosminski.
    The first is the known naming of Kosminski by Macnaghten and Swanson. This seems to confirm that there is no mis spelling going on. They meant to write kosminski.
    The second one is that Andersons suspect is described as going insane due to years of indulgence in solitary vices, and Aaron Kosminski is described by the asylum as being a self abuser. Both of these are euphemism for excessive masturbation which was believed to cause insanity.
    So the masturbation issue links Andersons suspect with Aaron Kosminski, and Swanson linking Andersons suspect with a Kosminski. We have Aaron being the only Kosminski at the asylum. We also have Macnaughtens naming of Kosminski as a suspect.
    So I think we can say that Aaron Kosminski was the Anderson suspect and that both Swanson and Anderson were convinced he was the ripper.
    For me, that is telling. Because the two men who probably knew the most about the case were confident about their suspect, even indicating that he had been IDd by a witness and then ceased killing.
    To me, this is probably the best evidence out of any suspect.

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 6 месяцев назад

      This killer planned everything he did & chose his victims. And was never caught. Not the work of any nutter. George Klosowski changed his name to George Chapman. Hung in 1903, look him up.

    • @johnmorris1009
      @johnmorris1009 2 месяца назад +1

      I think quite a lot of statements are heresay though. Other than the shawl (which might not even have belonged to the victim and might not even have had his DNA on it) there is no solid evidence linking him to any of the crimes.

  • @DiniAdd0807
    @DiniAdd0807 Год назад +13

    I believe David Cohen was the Ripper per Martin’s research. It makes so much sense to me.

    • @stevenblomer7738
      @stevenblomer7738 Год назад +4

      He may well be.

    • @davesmith7432
      @davesmith7432 Год назад +1

      Martin made a 3 or 4 part audio presentation on the murders. It’s really entertaining. Spoiler alert, you know who he names as the killer.

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Год назад +1

      Exactly

    • @adoculos4521
      @adoculos4521 Год назад

      Try to grasp that it is only an opinion as no actual evidence exists to identify who JtR was.
      Do you believe all opinions without actual evidence?

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Год назад

      Not a jot of evidence for the theory.

  • @jupite1888
    @jupite1888 Год назад +3

    Always Very Interesting Guests and Interesting Discussions. Thanks Richard

  • @markbrodie7491
    @markbrodie7491 Год назад +22

    One of your best videos yet! I’ve always thought Martin Fido’s research was some of the finest ever undertaken on this case-he was a real pioneer in this regard. I’m still not sure what to make of the Kaminsky-Cohen-Kosminski theory, but it sure seems as though a link has been missed somewhere along the line.

    • @deancordery5935
      @deancordery5935 Год назад +3

      Great thanks again for another awesome video, although I can't believe JTR would be a jew he'd of stood out like a sore thumb. I believe Charles Allen Lechmere aka Cross was the Ripper, so many time's Lechmere was overlooked by almost everyone, he worked and lived all his life around Whitechapel and knew every back Alley including the double event that took place not far from where he lived with his mother, and yet Lechmere keeps getting ignored.
      My I've looked at many books and theories delved into many Libraries too look for that 💡 moment, one documentary on Channel 5 gave me that 💡 moment when the name popped up Charles Allen Cross who lied at the 1st enquiry and again lied too PC Mizen I feel it had too be someone who worked and lived in the area and perhaps someone who took multiple routes too and from work, Lechmere got away with it due too the lack of understanding a Serial Killer and also the News papers at that time they put wild theories about someone who was famous,foreign looking, perhaps someone from across the pond or a member of Queen Victoria's Royal Family, no one wanted JTR too be a working man a family man from a broken home but he is and my what a way to get away with it didn't stand out in the crowd he blended in fitted in and he knew it....

    • @vespasian606
      @vespasian606 Год назад +7

      @@deancordery5935 Quite a few people lied. Some were in the wrong place at the wrong time such as George Hutchinson for instance. Some were in it for the money such as Pearly Poll and others just wanted to please their editors. Being a liar does not make anyone a more likely suspect and Lechmere being the first to come across the body is not proof of anything except his bad luck. He certainly didn't appear to be trying to profit from the situation unlike some of the others I have mentioned. There is a ton of research from those proposing Lechmere as a candidate and some of it is of a very high standard. Yet for all their efforts it doesn't amount to anything except proof of their own diligence. Take away his discovery of the body and there is nothing. Not a single scrap.

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Год назад +1

      @@vespasian606 Exactly!!!!!!! Thank you

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Год назад +1

      If a suspect can't be placed at a crime scene, it's not a very good suspect. They don't even know who this "Phantom" man was.

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Год назад +2

      @Robert Smith But, Lechmere was at a crime scene, matter of fact standing "Where the woman was" a dead body. His lying about everything else makes him more suspicious. No one else can place a suspect at a crime scene. Best suspect by far.

  • @JoeLisle
    @JoeLisle Год назад +12

    Wish we knew who done it not for historical reasons but for the victims

    • @meninpapin
      @meninpapin 2 месяца назад

      It's never ever for the victims.
      Have you ever seen they cover the victims. That wouldn't make for good entertainment.
      There are however few exceptions but that's how it is.

  • @warcrypublishing
    @warcrypublishing Год назад +4

    Brilliant watch guys 👏

  • @elizabethabraybant7282
    @elizabethabraybant7282 3 месяца назад +2

    Jacob Levy was the Ripper. We know the City Police watched someone in Butchers Row . We also know that the suspect had been confined to a private asylum for a short time which Jacob had been sent to an asylum during his jail sentence. One thing that has always been a question in my mind is why the connection has never been made to Greenfield St? Jacob's first butcher shop was there, Isaac Kosminski 's tailor shop was there and Pizer worked as a slipper maker there. They probably all knew each other and were partners in crime. Jacob was the Ripper, who sent Aaron Kosminski to kill Liz Stride while he waited for Catherine Eddos in Mitre Square.

    • @seankinnane12
      @seankinnane12 3 месяца назад

      youre right the ripper did reside on Greenfield st

  • @TheJazzper1970
    @TheJazzper1970 Год назад +5

    Excellent. One of the best pieces of online media I have seen or heard in regards to Kosminski or Cohen. As to the lack of known violence from Kosminski; serial killers need not be violent out with their murders. For instance there is not much violence committed by Dennis Rader other than his known murders.

    • @deansanders5926
      @deansanders5926 Год назад

      There is actually more proof Aeron was violent. A letter now in UK and brought by a carpet fitter from a Australia is by the Vicar who knew the family. He mentions enough to show Kosminski is the one.

  • @pauldrummond225
    @pauldrummond225 Год назад +1

    Excellent food for thought there and RIP Martin Fido a true researcher and Ripper scholar.

  • @berger1510
    @berger1510 Год назад +11

    Having spent a career doing psychometric tests on people, knowing criminal psychology and working with offenders of all degrees of seriousness, I'll concede that there's a real chance that Kosminsky killed Stride, but the one thing I can guarantee is that the man who killed Stride didn't kill Kelly. I'd say the Police had proper reason to believe Kosminsky given witness evidence killed Stride, but that has all the hallmarks of a disorganised, angry, unplanned attack, almost domestic if you like, a victim and perpetrator known to each other with possibly a history of verbals and fimiliarity and a lack of control from the killer. That's what the circumstances and MO suggest. The other killings were entirely different. I'd suggest that the Police had enough evidence to pin the Stride killing on Kosminsky and then ascribed it to the series of similar, but different murders. and were happy to have a prime suspect. The Kelly murderer is a different psychology altogether.

    • @jdvisualz3391
      @jdvisualz3391 Год назад +5

      Do you believe the Kelly murder was a natural escalation due to the opportunity of having privacy and a few hours? Many believe it too violent to be Jack, but to me it seems what Jack would do in that situation, given he was able to disembowel his victims in just 10 or 15 minutes in al alleyway.

    • @feralbluee
      @feralbluee 11 месяцев назад +1

      you make sense and give a coherent case. these guys ramble and seem more befuddled than really sure. there’s not one piece of real evidence in the whole video. thanks for your comment. actually learned something. have a good day :) 🌷🌱

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 6 месяцев назад +1

      Why isn't anyone connecting the Ages of the first 4 victims, all killed outdoors. Mary Kelly being only 25 but she had her own room yet was in peril of being turfed. All 5 were drinkers. I think this was a very well thought out crime & Mary Kelly was the hell on earth crime for the killer who knew he had a place where he could take his time for ultimate shock value. It was said that he had the fire going, burning her clothes so he could see better. BS, he was burning some of his Own clothes & some of hers to cover that up. I believe the friend of hers who said he saw him with her & saw them go in her door could have recognised him & that's why he stopped after that murder. I don't believe the killer was some mental maniac who needed to go into an asylum, he Planned everything he did. No-one ever heard a scream, that alone says a whole lot about the planning.
      Why dismiss Severin Klosowski/George Chapman just because he poisoned women. He poisoned Three, watching their horrific suffering, he was a fn sadist. How very interesting to know that after the separation from the Polish wife he met & married in England, the next woman's name was Annie Chapman & he took that surname. He was 30, she was 39 when they met. Hmm. She, who was a big drinker. He got away with poisoning her & so, he had a new MO & continued with his drinking, his violence, his womanising & bumping off partners who pissed him off. Obviously he was a very devious but charming sociopath, the main thing was, he was an Anglo then, not a KLOSOWSKI.
      One witness had already picked up on a likeness to a Jewish looking man & one had picked up a European accent. The torn off piece of Eddowe's apron with blood & faeces was dropped in the archway of the building where mostly Jewish families lived. There shouldn't have been a reason for the apron to have been so dirtied up as it was found. Who the hell would carry such a disgusting piece of evidence anywhere but more than that, there's the piece of evidence that would have got him the death penalty if caught with it. He was Very sure of where all the beat coppers would be for their rounds. And each time. He was trying to pin the crime on that race knowing about the anti-Semitism & that was going on Before the suspicion of one as a sadistic woman killer.
      He was training to be a surgeon in Poland since he was 15 years old & 4.5 years into that & married, he took off for England, abandoning that career prospect, family & his wife. Why? That could be the clue, the victimology as a whole is the key to who.

    • @johnmorris1009
      @johnmorris1009 2 месяца назад

      I think either Joseph Barnett or Francis Thompson killed Kelly. The suspicious ex and the violent and intelligent psychopath, who was lodged nearby. Both had opportunity.

  • @colinbrown5529
    @colinbrown5529 3 месяца назад +2

    I've never believed the murders to be done by 1 person maybe 2 or 3 independent murderers

  • @davethomasatemyhamster
    @davethomasatemyhamster Год назад +11

    Intrigued by the person that was treated for syphilis- in some circumstances it can get into the brain and totally change personality. Interesting stuff. Loved it!👍👍❤❤

    • @dahlizz99
      @dahlizz99 Год назад

      Yes, can make a person more violent I believe. Sus

  • @paulchristodoulou7973
    @paulchristodoulou7973 Год назад +8

    What I want to understand is were the people submitted to these institutions medicated as this could help explain why Aaron Kominski didn’t show aggressive traits while incarcerated

    • @Charles-oo8bq
      @Charles-oo8bq Год назад +2

      Good point

    • @tjmusic8697
      @tjmusic8697 Год назад

      I'm not sure what level of medication they had. But another thing is that the deterioration of Kosminski may have been so much as to make him incapable of being violent. Perhaps his sickness went from obsession with killing to hearing voices after he got in the asylum

    • @dahlizz99
      @dahlizz99 Год назад

      I mean people were doing cocaine for mild headaches pretty much so who knows what they used on actual insane people

    • @Hell...IsOtherPeople44
      @Hell...IsOtherPeople44 6 месяцев назад

      There were no medications for mental illness back then, no proper diagnosis even, it was all termed insanity, a catch all for everything from Schizophrenia to dementia to menopause. What was often done to patients was a frontal lobe lobotomy procedure, essentially brain damage. The physicians back then thought it was the cure, only because patients were so damaged by the procedure, they could no longer act violently.

  • @ruiseartalcorn
    @ruiseartalcorn Год назад +2

    Great interview! Very interesting indeed! Many thanks :)

  • @proteus4301
    @proteus4301 6 месяцев назад

    Your channel has some of the most enjoyable and knowledgeable discussions I've seen on JTR. Fido's investigations and findings are worthy of attention and brought some new information to the subject and so stand out from all the other garbage that throws up a new name every month.

  • @julianferris5364
    @julianferris5364 Год назад +1

    I’ve been waiting for this topic for years! Finally a deep dive!

  • @berger1510
    @berger1510 Год назад +1

    excellent stuff lads, really enjoyed that.

  • @drbigmdftnu
    @drbigmdftnu Год назад +1

    Great presentation!

  • @dermotkelly6946
    @dermotkelly6946 Год назад +1

    It just gets better , great video 👍

  • @piggywiggy-wi6ek
    @piggywiggy-wi6ek Год назад +4

    This video is academic. Very informative.

  • @mrliberty8468
    @mrliberty8468 10 месяцев назад +2

    It was Lee Harvy Oswald and he acted alone...

  • @KingBritish
    @KingBritish Год назад +3

    I've enjoyed both times that I've seen Blomer on this channel. He seems very knowledgeable and when something is circumstantial he makes it clear and doesn't try to pass it off as fact like a couple other 'Ripperologists'.

  • @fourshore502
    @fourshore502 Год назад +16

    is it possible that they possibly knew it was one of these guys but they knew he would be in an asylum for the rest of his life so they put a lid on it because they wanted to avoid the anti-semitic riots that would most likely be the result if the thruth came out? are there any indications of that? i know there have been similar cases like that, where the powers in charge decide not to pursue the matter further because it is deemed that the risk of the damage of the truth emerging is too great? even very current cases which i wont get into *cough*twitterfiles*cough*.

    • @vespasian606
      @vespasian606 Год назад +6

      There is much to suggest that the police did not know who the ripper was. Not at the time and not afterwards. I do not regard memoirs, marginalia and off the cuff conversations with journalists as real proof of anything except their frustrations. At the time certain trusted officers in the Met and the City police also helped fulfil roles that involved matters of national security. I am not implying that Special Branch (for instance) ever directly looked into the murders but I am of the opinion that someone at the Home Office would have asked their opinion. I don't think they knew either.

    • @terrytaylor1394
      @terrytaylor1394 Год назад

      A closer contemporary analogy might be that of Muslim Grooming Gangs. My u/standing has always been that Schwarz did positively identify Kosminski and as discussed in the vid, wouldn't testify against him for religious reasons. The Police then have a positive ID of their prime suspect but insufficient evidence to prosecute. Hence dumping him quietly in a lunatic asylum and the murders stop. Maybe David Cohen was a John Doe for Kosminski?

    • @davidhallett8783
      @davidhallett8783 Год назад

      Exactly right. Pro bono

  • @ShellacScrubber
    @ShellacScrubber Год назад +6

    A very interesting and enjoyable discussion.
    One point I'd like to make is that at the time of the murders and to a lesser extent nowadays, a suspects viability was judged chiefly on whether he exhibited 𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘯ly violent behaviour.
    Of course, in more recent times the science of psychological profiling has shown us that a serial killer is rarely 𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘭𝘺 violent and more often than not, their public persona is that of a "normal," quiet, even gregarious individual.
    Also, and in my opinion, the most useful piece of information to come from the psychological profiler has been the discovery that rather than being openly violent, 𝘢𝘭𝘭 serial killers exhibit a lack of 𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘺 !
    For me, this fact alone represents a huge fly in the ointment in terms of Ripper "candidacy", for any of the contemporaneous suspects put forward by the various police officials back in the day .

  • @mariocroisetiere4900
    @mariocroisetiere4900 Год назад +1

    Thank you nr. Jones...

  • @andrewjohnson388
    @andrewjohnson388 Год назад +2

    That was great. I still find the suspects named by Mcnaughten on the response of the Cutbush relative in the Police etc strange. But only Kosminsky was a possible suspect on the list. All confusing.

  • @radicalmystic8224
    @radicalmystic8224 Год назад +4

    Add Jacob Levy to these two.

  • @emmaking5361
    @emmaking5361 6 месяцев назад

    So sad to learn of Martin’s passing. I first became interested in Jack the Ripper after watching a documentary you (Richard) and Martin were featured in. I must have been in my early teens and Martin was so well read and passionate about the subject.

  • @dahlizz99
    @dahlizz99 Год назад +4

    Does anyone know if they could deduce which type of knife was used in the murders? I've heard that they could. So if that's the case it shouldn't have been hard for the coroner to determine that Elizabeth Stride and Eddowes was killed using the same type of blade?

    • @kimella1320
      @kimella1320 Год назад +2

      If the coroner thought of looking at things like that, and was educated enough about that type of thing... yes, it is possible. I wonder if something like that was in a coroner's report? It would be very interesting to know.

    • @lw3646
      @lw3646 2 месяца назад

      I think now based on the medical reports they could tell you likely if it was a big knife or a small surgeon knife.

  • @elsbet1656
    @elsbet1656 Год назад +2

    THANK YOU

  • @cbamr
    @cbamr Год назад

    Great interview, Richard. Steve makes a lot of sense and appreciate listening to your discussion

  • @peterdickinson4599
    @peterdickinson4599 2 месяца назад

    Clear as mud. Ha ha!
    Though the section on the men who were running the case, without any prior policing experience, was very interesting.

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 Год назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @victorcontreras9138
    @victorcontreras9138 Год назад +2

    Very good topic. I had also heard the name Nathan Komenski as a suspect but he isn't mentioned much. Don't know if he had a lot of reasons for suspicion as Aaron.

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown Год назад

      From what I slightly recall it's Kaminsky and he's the brother of David Cohen/Aaron Kaminsky. It's either that or he's the brother of the famous Aaron Kosminski. It's really hard to keep track of, there's a lot of talk of mixing them up, but I'm pretty sure it's the brother of Cohen/Kaminsky, the outwardly violent patient.

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@88mphDrBrownThey don't know who he was. Absurd suspect that can't even be named correctly.

  • @lw3646
    @lw3646 2 месяца назад +1

    I've got an excel spreadsheet of all the suspects im trying to use to see which closely matches the supposed facts about the killer.

  • @freddyfurrah3789
    @freddyfurrah3789 Год назад +2

    THE COPS KNEW.

  • @KingBritish
    @KingBritish 11 месяцев назад +1

    As you said there is no evidence that Cohen had a brother to be released to but later on you say that Aaron Kosminski was released into the care of his brother. That suggests to me all 3 of of them (Cohen, Kaminsky and Kosminski) are all the same person.

  • @matthewwalker5430
    @matthewwalker5430 9 месяцев назад +1

    Names, particularly in the working classes but not exclusively, were notoriously nebulous in Victorian Britain (and probably in a lot of places). When you go through Census records of the time it is extremely common to see surnames misspelt, second names used instead of first names in 1 year and then either switched in the following census or missing altogether. It really doesn't surprise me that an "Aaron Davis Cohen" could then appear as a "David Cohen", he could easily have gone by both or it might just be a case of whoever happened to be writing it down and the same can be said for "Kosminski/Kaminsky" - many people couldn't read to double check the spelling anyway, especially if they weren't even native English speakers. All that being said, I'm not sure I'm buying the "David Cohen = Jewish John Doe" argument, that seems strange to me. As far as I know "John Doe" itself was not even used in the 18th/19th century in the same way we use it today - as in applying it as a name for the unidentified came later I believe, although it may have been in use that way by the end of the 19th century I guess. It was more typically used as a fictitious plaintiff in legal cases (and still is in certain situations, just like Richard Roe is used as a fictitious defendant in order to argue principle, in the same way as you would say "the people versus"), so it doesn't make sense that, in his actual criminal case, the name "Aaron Davis Cohen" would be used because, if David Cohen was a Jewish variant of Richard Roe, the criminal case would be THE place where it would appear that way

  • @peteclarke9416
    @peteclarke9416 Год назад +1

    That's what I thought Steve.. Once he's been seen he finishes Stride, thinking he could be caught or the coppers brought over any second.. Then heads towards Bishops gate... One can't sit on the fence forever!!

  • @kasparolesen1515
    @kasparolesen1515 Год назад +6

    Very interesting and thank you for the video. Could you have a closer look at Jacob Levy?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  Год назад +5

      Hi Kaspar. Yes, indeed. I'm planning one on him.

    • @f.o.c.s.1028
      @f.o.c.s.1028 Год назад +2

      @@JackTheRipperTours
      Yes Jacob Levy is an interesting Character well worth a look at. Born in1856 which fits the supposed age range of J.T.R. his Height though was only 5-ft 3 inches which is somewhat outside the hight range.

    • @StormRiderShow
      @StormRiderShow Год назад +1

      @@JackTheRipperTours Looking forward to that one. Levy is interesting, particularly with the possible connection to the Mitre Square witnesses. Absolutely love your channel Richard.

    • @f.o.c.s.1028
      @f.o.c.s.1028 Год назад

      @@StormRiderShow
      According to the home office files Joseph Lawende's description of the man seen with Catherine Eddows by Church Passage. The mans height was 5-ft 7or8in. Jacob Levy's height was 5-ft 3 in.

    • @paulanthony5274
      @paulanthony5274 Год назад

      @@f.o.c.s.1028 I thought he was described as 5'5 to 5'6 or was that the earlier description by Israel Schwartz when Liz Stride was murdered? Either way it's taller though. Although the witness by the brewery clock before the Chapman murder said he was a little taller than the deceased.
      But there isn't anyone who stated he was 5'3 so valid point..

  • @richardtofts4977
    @richardtofts4977 Год назад +1

    Assuming that the piece of apron was eventually discarded or lost by the Police?

  • @richardwakefield3178
    @richardwakefield3178 Год назад

    I feel that this line is undoubtedly the correct jigsaw puzzle, there is just 1 piece frustratingly missing. One day we may find some material that gives a complete name. Everything else should then start to fall in place.

  • @herbert9241
    @herbert9241 Год назад +3

    Ah, but every burgeoning foray into serial murder begins with the picking up of a chair.
    Nice to see Steven again. Of the various interesting guests I've seen on your channel, Steven is the most circumspect thinker.

  • @elizabethabraybant7282
    @elizabethabraybant7282 3 месяца назад

    I think the seaside home was Joseph Hyam Levy's retirement home on the coast. They probably broke the law by removing Jacob from Stone , hence( with great difficulty) to be identified by Joseph Levy. I believe some sort of agreement was made between JHL and the police not to reveal Jacob's real name so as not to dirty the Levy family name. Also if a Kosminski helped Jacob in any way he would also be guilty and if they were never sure who Jacob was they called him Kosminski.

    • @elizabethabraybant7282
      @elizabethabraybant7282 3 месяца назад

      I also want to add that If we could find out when Aaron Kosminski 's headstone was erected in Plaschett cemetery we may find out it is actually Jacob in that grave, buried under Aaron's name.

  • @meninpapin
    @meninpapin 2 месяца назад

    Plz explain what does he mean Kosminski was only known as a suspect after 1991 & Cohen late 80's.
    I watched the 100 year anniversary on Jack the Ripper in 1988 presented by Sir Rich Attenborough with a panel of law experts FBI, etc & they all came to the conclusion Kosminski was the ripper.
    So in a nutshell he was known as a prime suspect way before 1991.
    Or am I sitting the pot miss.

  • @joeylowell293
    @joeylowell293 Год назад +7

    I am sorry to tell you all this but neither of these men are Jack the ripper, the cops back then had NO CLUE what a serial killer was or how to catch one. This is the only man that fits in every way and was seen at Mary Kelly's murder site one hour before she was killed. he has done what we would expect him to do he involves himself into the case and he did it for two reasons one is he was seen by Sara Lewis and had she not seen him we would never know who Jack was and knew he had to give reason why he was there and the second was to know what cops knew. this man gave his statement three days after his friend Mary Kelly was killed big red flag. now the few who have studied serial murder will see that his statement shows his Ego and boy is it big but before i get into that this man lived alone and on Commercial street he was 5'7 with a stout build was 28 years old with brown hair and brown mustache. this man was named George Hutchinson his statement showed he not only knew Mary Kelly but he had been listening to what was being said and written about him and we see this in his statement when the people were saying it was a Jew he gave them the writing on the wall when they said he was a doctor he sent them the kidney when they said he looked like a sailor he made sure to say the man last seen with Mary Kelly gave her a red handkerchief and thats because he had one on when he was seen talking to Kate Eddowes before her murder and they said it was red. When they say he is a Rich Toff down slumming, he gives them the made-up man seen with Mary Kelly. Why would a man follow a friend that asked him for money and then wait 45 minutes in a light rain on a cold night when cops were out in force looking for the Ripper to see if they came out Answer? He was stalking her! We know he knew two of the victims and that is very important because again the few of us who have studied serial murder know that if they kill a known victim they will always cover or destroy the face and sometimes the body to depersonalize the victim. only two victims had this done to them Kelly and Eddowes and he knew both.we believe he wrote at least two of the letters the from Hell letter and the first letter dated on the 17th Sept. and this is the letter that he gives his trademark name Jack the Ripper. anyway we found lots of red flags and they all point to him as the ripper, We are trying to find where he went when he left London in 1891 he we can find that we will find more ripper murders.

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 Год назад +1

      Although I'm a lechmere man I do agree Hutchinson is suspicious

  • @jessgunn6639
    @jessgunn6639 Год назад +1

    a few years back i came across a programme that spoke of the mortuary attendant being a likely suspect and the theory did appeal to me, does anyone know of any further information on this?

    • @HGTaffer62
      @HGTaffer62 Год назад

      Henry(NL): A certain M.J.Trow is the author of 2 books detailing his theories that:
      1. A mortuary attendant was JtR and…
      2. That the same individual was also responsible for the ‘Thames Torso Murders’. Or at least for some of them.
      I DO HOPE I’VE GOT THIS RIGHT! It has been a while since I read this 😔👍.

    • @timothytietz9194
      @timothytietz9194 Год назад

      Robert Mann?.

  • @johnmorris1009
    @johnmorris1009 2 месяца назад

    I used to think Kosminski was once of the most likely suspects. Now he doesn't figure, for me.

  • @22leggedsasquatch
    @22leggedsasquatch 18 дней назад

    You can't place logic onto the actions of a homicidal sociopath. 3 tines you repeat the Strude/Eddows double murder, despite the clear explanation that the Ripper was interrupted and wanted to get his work done, then found Eddows. Why is that so difficult to grasp?

  • @feralbluee
    @feralbluee 11 месяцев назад +1

    as a completely new person to this theory, it sounds awfully befuddled to me. if i were a juror, i’d have go not guilty. you haven’t proven anything to me. and that they’re both Jewish is a little suspect. of course, i’m living now, not back then. Jews were probably suspected because they were Jewish - foreigners. the English seem to always suspect foreigners. (i get this kind of thing from Agatha Christie novels and other writings about that time period in England.)

    • @RadagastBrown420
      @RadagastBrown420 5 месяцев назад

      Indeed there was very persistent antisemitism at that time.

  • @JohnSmith-nu9jz
    @JohnSmith-nu9jz 9 дней назад

    While 'David Cohen', seems the more plausible between he and Kosminski, neither seem viable candidates. Whoever JTR was, he was older, more experienced, cunning and, above all, fitted in, able to convince the victims to go with him. Someone between 28-42, had a profession or reason to travel during the night, so able to prey on women who'd been drinking. I don't buy Stride as a Ripper victim either - too many people around.

  • @Legionmint7091
    @Legionmint7091 Год назад

    Thank you Mr. Jones.
    This was really interesting, revealing quite a lot of facts that I strongly suspected but never have been able to confirm before.
    My very best regards
    /Magnus

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 7 месяцев назад

    As has often been mooted, the killer having possibly been seen and frustrated badly needed to satisfy himself and so fled away from the area. He then perhaps manged to compose his superficial demeanour targeting the first suitable victim he came across.

  • @SteffBrockley
    @SteffBrockley 9 месяцев назад

    It’s so interesting that Schwartz’s account says that Broad-Shoulders was walking down Berner Street alone and then met Stride at the Yard before immediately blitz attacking her. If Broad-Shoulders is the Ripper, then it’s not how you’d expect the Ripper to ingratiate himself with his victims. Had he been stalking her, or did he lash out at any prostitute he saw in a yard? Then why pick prostitutes to kill if not for their willingness to go with him? Or is it just that only prostitutes would be out at the time he hunted? Or are some of the victims unfairly labelled as prostitutes? Did he think he was alone on the street and would have acted differently if Schwartz wasn’t there? Or was he seen more regularly than we realise and witnesses in the East End were just unwilling to go to the police?
    And I know it’s not always helpful to think this way, but should Schwartz be a suspect? Did he realise he was seen by Pipeman who did chase him, so Schwartz reported it before Pipeman had a chance to do it, putting Pipeman closer to the perimeter of suspicion than himself, but inventing Broad-Shoulders to give him leeway in a he said/he said argument. Could Israel just’ve identified Kosminksi as the killer to close the case, but refused to testify so he didn’t become too prominent and have his story questioned? The more I think about this, the more fantastical and unlikely it sounds 😂

  • @YachiruRetsuUnohana
    @YachiruRetsuUnohana Год назад +3

    I don't think we will ever know who JTR was. Honestly, I don't think he was ever interviewed and if he was interviewed it wasn't by the cops. It was probably one of those nosy newspapers. I think JTR has never had any involvement with the police. I also think that he was just a average WASP. I don't think it was Nathan. Nathan seems way too out of control. JTR seems to be very much in control. I'm willing to guess that he was married, had a stable job and had his own home. As far as why I think he "stopped" killings. I think his wife may have given birth. Some serial killers have been known to slow down or stop their activity during life changes. So, maybe he had a job change or his wife gave birth.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Год назад +2

      Yes, the police were as clueless as they were nearly a hundred years later in Yorkshire.
      Back then they actually thought serial killers were outwardly mad and not the outwardly normal personalities we now know them to be.

    • @infamousaudio409
      @infamousaudio409 Год назад +2

      Most of your expectations of the real Jack the Ripper point to Charles Allen Lechmere.

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Год назад

      @@infamousaudio409 No evidence for Lechmere whatsoever NOTHING!!!! Its a new and dumb theory, that only the most gullible of people will fall for

    • @infamousaudio409
      @infamousaudio409 Год назад +2

      @@jimlewis2395 I wouldn't say he's a new suspect at all. You mention no evidence against Lechmere, I'd argue Lechmere has the most evidence against him, and unlike any other suspect, Lechmere can be placed at the scene of Polly Nichols murder at the time of death. I'm sorry but any other suspect doesn't come close to Lechmere.

    • @brianbommarito3376
      @brianbommarito3376 Год назад +1

      I agree with what you folks are saying about Lechmere. I find him extremely plausible. There were a number of conflicting details in his account of events the night of Polly Nichols’ death. He claims to have been concerned about the woman he allegedly found lying in Buck’s Row. But after fellow cart-man Robert Paul got involved, something changed and Lechmere (aka Charles Cross) suddenly no longer wanted to do anything but summon a policeman. Maybe he got spooked, but I think it was much more than that. I found Paul’s reaction to be more natural than Lechmere’s. Neither of the men saw any blood to indicate that she had just been murdered. They thought she might be dead, but they weren’t sure despite checking for a pulse. I think if she was dead, it could not have been longer than 15 minutes. Lechmere claimed to Paul and to the coroner’s inquest that he was running late for work but also claims he was searching for a tarpaulin to use in his profession. But I ask myself: why would he search for a tarp he may never find if he’s already running late? Would it not be more logical if he had searched for a tarp the previous night and taken it home with him and had it ready for work the next day? I’ll never know, I wish Lechmere were alive and could be questioned about these things and give himself a chance to clear up the confusion. Until that confusion is resolved, I have to look at him with very suspicious eyes and take his testimony with a grain of salt.

  • @strictlycasual765
    @strictlycasual765 17 дней назад

    Ha anyone ever had the theory that there was more than one Jack, not intentionally? Example is he double event might have been a mad coincidence where for example Kosminsky killed the first victim, there was no interruption and that’s just how he did it, without mutilation - while half a mile away Lechmefe was getting busy on the second victim that night and doing what the ripper did best:……
    I don’t believe there was 2 people in suspicious circumstances called Kosminsky and ‘being returned to brothers care’ separately says it was the same person to me?

  • @elizabethabraybant7282
    @elizabethabraybant7282 3 месяца назад

    Is it possible that Aaron Kosminski could have lived to 1919 if he had contracted Syphilis in 1888?

    • @lw3646
      @lw3646 2 месяца назад

      Typically you die after about 16 years if untreated.

  • @philipskalla4312
    @philipskalla4312 Год назад +1

    '... the Jewish law Mesirah which actually forbade Jews from giving up another Jew to Gentile law.'
    40:10
    That did not apply in a case of murder, nor to a case in a country under the rule of law.

  • @dahlizz99
    @dahlizz99 Год назад

    But the part about him dying soon after is pretty major.. this would be like me saying today: "yeah Christiano Ronaldo was the suspect when he played at Man United but he died shortly after". Dude is still alive, it's a pretty major mistake then

  • @baddreamfancydress2017
    @baddreamfancydress2017 Год назад

    Surely Anderson first talks about a 'Madman revelling in blood' as early as 1892?

    • @stevenblomer7738
      @stevenblomer7738 Год назад

      He does, while a year earlier he says he has no idea.
      The point I was making is that 95 is the first time, it is said he is dead.

  • @timecapsule5604
    @timecapsule5604 Год назад +1

    Waltert Sickert was 28 the perfect age remember the lady that said she saw someone with a parcel the night of Mary Kelly's murder and he looked liked a foreigner and Walter Sickert I think spoke 6 or more languages and definitely had a light German accent and he always loved going to the shows and was into performing wore fake mustaches

  • @jonsantos-2938
    @jonsantos-2938 Год назад +1

    We should not dismiss aaron as jtr based on his lack of violent behaviour in his private and institutionalized time, just think of todays serial killers, most of them are as calm as a plant, they display no emotion or erractic behaviour, even the ones serving life on prison, they dont go about harming offices or imates, but the opposite, you would not even say they were capable of such atrocities by watching their behaviour

  • @berger1510
    @berger1510 Год назад +1

    For both Steve and Richard..whilst I take your point about what Martin said that anybody who wants to put forward a new suspect needs to dismissl Anderson first..don't we also need to put another person within the very small period beween Nicholls having her throat cut and Lechmere being there when the wounds were fresh and starting the bleed? Paul is far enough behind Lechmere not to see his activity and also audible enough for Lechmere to hear him coming and back away from the body. Kosminsky may well have been seen around the vicinity of the Stride murder, but there's every possibility, given the carelessness of it and the MO, that it wasn't a Ripper killing. Another thing that puzzles me about the Stride incident is that Schwartz says that someone, most likely the killer shouts "Lipski" at him, clearly a racial slur as Schwartz was of obvious pyhsical Jewish looks....how likely is it that Kosminksy, another Jew is going to use an anti-semitic slur against another Jew? Very unlikely I'd say. Anyone who shouts Lipski at Sshwartz is going to be an English, indigennous resident. The Stride killing is at a different time and with a different MO to all the other killinhs. Kosminsky 'might' have killed Stride, I have my doubts, but I have even more doubts that he was responsible for the others, expecially the Kelly nurder.

    • @_psychopath_5623
      @_psychopath_5623 Год назад +1

      Stride was killed by ripper. He was interrupted.

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 10 месяцев назад

      Aaron Kosminski couldn't even speak English, much less write in the language. He spoke Yiddish until the day he died.

    • @FrankMcCloud
      @FrankMcCloud 7 месяцев назад

      In another video on the killing of Stride with Steve and Richard, he mentioned that "Lipski" also sounded like the Polish "Go away" or so. Then this could indeed come from a Jew. But I believe that the street graffiti was from the Ripper and I doubt that Kosminski could have written it.

  • @raysargent4055
    @raysargent4055 9 месяцев назад

    Who was the witness that identified someone he new or was related to at the site of Liz strides murder .

  • @jamiestacey7862
    @jamiestacey7862 Год назад +2

    Mr Jones, Who do you think Jack the Ripper was? 👍

  • @tomr3422
    @tomr3422 Год назад +8

    roaming lunatic - isnt that just another way of saying british.

  • @michaelharrington7656
    @michaelharrington7656 Год назад

    I don't quite get why Anderson entitled his memoir "The Lighter Side of My Official Life." Does he mean that the rest of it was secret? It is not clear.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk Год назад

      I've always taken it to mean the lighter(-hearted) side of his official life... not that the book is a laugh a minute, mind you! However, since Anderson was a serious-minded, religious and even sanctimonious man, it may have seemed lighter-hearted to him.

  • @Tsumami__
    @Tsumami__ 11 месяцев назад

    If one picks up a chair and holds it like a lion tamer, it may not be seen as violent, but if one picks it up and holds it over their head to bash someone with, that can be pretty violent. I’ve seen people pick up folding chairs and do damage with them, I would imagine whatever chair was picked up was a sturdy as hell wooden chair…
    Idk, picking up something to bash someone with is pretty violent.
    But whomever “Jack” was, he may not have even seemed like a violent person to those he knew in everyday life.

  • @Tsumami__
    @Tsumami__ 11 месяцев назад

    I’ll always find it fascinating that despite being so concerned about violence against the Jewish community in whitechapel, the top level police at the time seemed to very much fall into their own prejudices and did exactly what the graffiti said - blamed the Jews.
    The only interesting thing about Kaminsky is that he was a boot maker, and it was theorized the knife used in the murders was a shoemakers knife or a cork knife.

  • @michaelparks5669
    @michaelparks5669 4 месяца назад

    Steve is the BEST!

  • @stevedavenport2975
    @stevedavenport2975 Год назад +2

    Just sounds very racist,

  • @red20753
    @red20753 Год назад +1

    I'm 100% certain Cohen was the Ripper

  • @MrBeckenhimself
    @MrBeckenhimself 7 месяцев назад

    Regardless of it was Kosminski or this Kamnisky fellow. The police proved they had no clue about anything. Sent to an asylum and died shortly thereafter. Well Kosminski didn't even close to die shortly thereafter. So even if it was Kosminski (which is possible) the police still mixed him up with this Kaminsky fellow. So either way they really made fools of themselves.
    Who can't seperate two people from each other? Kosminski and Kaminsky sounds similar. But when your job happens to be to solve cases one could at the very least demand you can tell two people apart.

  • @bethryan9077
    @bethryan9077 6 месяцев назад

    Why isn't anyone connecting the Ages of the first 4 victims, all killed outdoors. Mary Kelly being only 25 but she had her own room yet was in peril of being turfed. All 5 were drinkers. I think this was a very well thought out crime & Mary Kelly was the hell on earth crime for the killer who knew he had a place where he could take his time for ultimate shock value. It was said that he had the fire going, burning her clothes so he could see better. BS, he was burning some of his Own clothes & some of hers to cover that up. I believe the friend of hers who said he saw him with her & saw them go in her door could have recognised him & that's why he stopped after that murder. I don't believe the killer was some mental maniac who needed to go into an asylum, he Planned everything he did. No-one ever heard a scream, that alone says a whole lot about the planning.
    Why dismiss Severin Klosowski/George Chapman just because he poisoned women. He poisoned Three, watching their horrific suffering, he was a fn sadist. How very interesting to know that after the separation from the Polish wife he met & married in England, the next woman's name was Annie Chapman & he took that surname. He was 30, she was 39 when they met. Hmm. She, who was a big drinker. He got away with poisoning her & so, he had a new MO & continued with his drinking, his violence, his womanising & bumping off partners who pissed him off. Obviously he was a very devious but charming sociopath, the main thing was, he was an Anglo then, not a KLOSOWSKI.
    One witness had already picked up on a likeness to a Jewish looking man & one had picked up a European accent. The torn off piece of Eddowe's apron with blood & faeces was dropped in the archway of the building where mostly Jewish families lived. There shouldn't have been a reason for the apron to have been so dirtied up as it was found. Who the hell would carry such a disgusting piece of evidence anywhere but more than that, there's the piece of evidence that would have got him the death penalty if caught with it. He was Very sure of where all the beat coppers would be for their rounds. And each time. He was trying to pin the crime on that race knowing about the anti-Semitism & that was going on Before the suspicion of one as a sadistic woman killer.
    He was training to be a surgeon in Poland since he was 15 years old & 4.5 years into that & married, he took off for England, abandoning that career prospect, family & his wife. Why? That could be the clue, the victimology as a whole is the key to who.

  • @otisdylan9532
    @otisdylan9532 Год назад

    Fine video. I consider Cohen one of the top suspects, so I'm glad he was given a video. What I liked most about the video is that it made me consider that an unknown Kosminski could be who Swanson was talking about, which I hadn't really considered. Offhand, the only problem I have with that is that I don't think that there's a record of any other Kosminski in any of the asylum records. I hope that you eventually do videos on 3 others that I consider top suspects: Jacob Levy, George Chapman, and William Bury.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Год назад +1

      Unlikely to be any of them and not a jot of evidence either.

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Год назад

      Charles Allen Lechmere

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Год назад

      @@lyndoncmp5751 Right. Not one can be placed at a crime scene.

    • @_psychopath_5623
      @_psychopath_5623 Год назад +2

      @@walkawaycat431 lel. Lechmere isn't the one.

  • @imissyoumom7644
    @imissyoumom7644 4 месяца назад

    After reading the Talmud, a Cohen, a Ski, a Stein and a Berg of some sort being the killer would not surprise me.

  • @lyndoncmp5751
    @lyndoncmp5751 Год назад +3

    Most interesting. However, the police didn't have any real idea who JTR was and assumed, as per the thinking of the time, he must have been a lunatic/somebody who ended up in an asylum. Nowadays we know different. Serial killers tend to be outwardly normal, even respectable.
    The police back then were as clueless as they were nearly a hundred years later in Yorkshire.
    JTR was almost certainly none of the suspects fingered by any policeman.

  • @JukeBoxDestroyer
    @JukeBoxDestroyer Год назад

    how many Kosminskis and Kaminskys could there possibly been in White Chapel at that time?

  • @peachyllama722
    @peachyllama722 Год назад

    Was class always used as a descriptive by the police in the 19th century?

    • @Fractal_blip
      @Fractal_blip Год назад +1

      Almost certainly. There seemed to be no such thing as political correctness in the 19th century, they were instead quite blunt seemingly.

  • @jamessharpe6699
    @jamessharpe6699 18 дней назад

    According to the FBI great and profiling David Cohen certainly was your Man

  • @thetragicyouth
    @thetragicyouth Год назад

    Wonderful, insightful discussion - just the facts, no distracting sensationalism. I'm very wary about Victorian memoirs and the rather suspicious "Ah well, we knew who it was all along" which inevitably flatters the writer far more than a more credible (truthful?) line like "I'm afraid we simply didn't have a clue..." would have done. Have you seen Pat Brown's video about Jacob Levy?

  • @Sigma.6
    @Sigma.6 10 месяцев назад +2

    Israel Schwartz identified Kosminski, but wouldnt go to court against him because he was a fellow Jew.
    Robert Anderson stopped just short of naming him, stating it served no pulic interest to do so, as hed alreqdy been committed to an asylum.
    Donal Swanson actually named him.
    Why keep foing over it?
    Jack The Ripper was Aaron Kosminski.
    Case closed.

    • @lw3646
      @lw3646 2 месяца назад

      Though he didn't give a first name.

  • @mariocroisetiere4900
    @mariocroisetiere4900 Год назад +2

    I ewally think mr. Fido found the guy....

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Год назад +2

      Yes

    • @adoculos4521
      @adoculos4521 Год назад

      No one has found JtR and never will.

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Год назад +1

      @@adoculos4521 Not conclusively but evidence STRONLY suggests it was this guy

    • @Fractal_blip
      @Fractal_blip Год назад +1

      @@adoculos4521 it was 100 percent whichever person it was that did the deed, now this you cannot dispute¡!

  • @MichaelGarner108
    @MichaelGarner108 Год назад

    Were kaminsky, kozminski and Cohen the same man ?

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown Год назад

      No, Aaron Kosminski had pretty detailed records. He was described as a mostly non violent paranoid schizophrenic, who excessively masturbated, and was committed for threatening his sister with a knife. It's also clear he was committed at a different time than this Cohen/Kaminsky fellow.

  • @rosshaugh7937
    @rosshaugh7937 Год назад +2

    Was the name David Cohen not given to Jews in the same way John Doe is given?

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Год назад

      Yes, it was

    • @stevenblomer7738
      @stevenblomer7738 Год назад +2

      That was the claim, I have found nothing official to support that view.
      And of course he appeared in court before he was committed to the Asylum.as Aaron Davis Cohen.
      That suggests David Cohen was not a John Doe.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk Год назад +2

      @@stevenblomer7738 Agreeed. Also, if officials actually _did_ use "David Cohen" as an alias for a male Jew, I'd expect to have seen a lot more "David Cohens" in the records. I've got a spreadsheet of every admission to the Whitechapel Infirmary from 1885-89 (a total of ~4,000 records) and there's only _one_ David Cohen in there, and guess who he is? (Clue: he was admitted in early December 1888 and listed as "insane").

  • @DF-ee8vt
    @DF-ee8vt Год назад +1

    There was probably some confusion between the two K-names. I had heard that David Cohen and Nathan Kaminsky were one and the same person.

  • @gingermiller436
    @gingermiller436 Год назад +1

    WOW!!!! The Jewish suspects just keep coming.

  • @vespasian606
    @vespasian606 Год назад

    01:12 Black Lion Square if my memory is correct. EDIT which apparently it isn't. Black Lion Yard is what I should have said.

  • @johnjones-eu1rv
    @johnjones-eu1rv 10 месяцев назад +1

    Maybrick was the Ripper…
    Case closed

    • @lw3646
      @lw3646 2 месяца назад

      Why?

  • @Ian-pb5dh
    @Ian-pb5dh Год назад

    This was a brilliant discussion. It would be interesting, in a future vidoe, to hear a bit more about why Steven dismisses Lawende as a witness.

  • @MichaelGarner108
    @MichaelGarner108 Год назад

    Lighter side ??