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I didn't cry when my grandparents passed away. I still haven't, I was their power of attorney and I was there with them as they were dying for years, but relatives that never visited had the most draumatic wailing cries. I would congratulate people on a happy funeral, I simply don't feel that death should be a taboo thing, rather just as we celebrate birthdays and weddings we should also celebrate the eventual death.
@@andyonlysmaller6557 I disagree to an extent. Death is painful and celebrating death would mean make it common and make murderer feeling even less responsible at some point. I see pros and cons to your solution.
@@Sol_Badguy_GG death is actually very common, 100% of everything alive in existence will end. This is what makes our time alive unique and special. Murder is painful because it is cutting the life experience short and not because of death itself.
The weird thing is, when I was 25 years old I told a joke on a bar, with my best college friend, and everything I hear Dr. Peterson tells makes me feel I was spot on with the coment. I said to that friend (we're both inteligent, and pretty troubled, and even more at 20 something, at the senior year at our first college degrees - marketing): We're both bright and useless. Like christmas trees! Man, it was all anyone had to say about us both. And only after a LOT of change we started to really work towards our goals. Now we both changed our professional directions, I'm a lawyer and he is a neuroscientist.
Diego Belingieri I'm 22 and I feel like I'm in for a real deep-dicking in life. I'm working in construction, playing in a band (guitar/synth is what I play) and I constantly go back and forth as to whether or not I want to go back to school. Oh yeah and I can dance like an absolute monster haha but uh, other than that I'm a goner if I don't do something. Yup, better get the KY jelly cause this life is gonna have it's way with me if I don't do anything about it lol
Matthew and Chlorox: I'm 37, and I decided to go to a law school at 31. Graduated at 35, completed my specialization this year. I'm behind my peers because I'm just starting a career at this age, but at least I'm moving forward. I actually hated the whole publicity industry. My friend managed to do it better, he first became a philosophy professor (his masters), then entered a psychology doctorate, but didn't really like it, for he likes hard sciences better than applied. He then abandoned it and went for neurosciences as a behavioral deterministic agent, and with that he managed to link it to marketing, earning a decent income through a consulting company. He was more strategic, I almost totally lost my time invested in the marketing and publicity other than, by a small margin, acting in consumer law cases. Thomas: There's nothing wrong about having fun and also a blue collar life can be pretty fulfilling if you plan accordingly and don't change your mind later, but you gotta create a strategy, you could even have your own company someday even if you just don't feel like going to college. And if you manage to have a stable, sufficient income, spend your entertainment time with your band and dancing :)
He has changed psychology for the better... i listen to all his lectures..i wish I could just sit in your class let alone have a great dialogue!!! I hope he's recovering well
I wish would be more Jordan Peterson man around and no media this days. Some common sense serves everyone well especially when is the truth, no agenda, just the truth about humans.
I’m 20 years old, my mother died 2 years ago next month, 2 weeks before I started my first semester of college, which I completed before deciding to take a year off. I pushed through it, moved out of the house of my stepfather of 15 years who found a new girlfriend within months, have found a reliable, flexible schedule job and am trying to go back to college during corona. The moment my mom died, I decided that it would be ME who comforted other people. So when I made all the calls to what little family we had in california, I made sure to be as supportive as possible, and to not show tears, but to be strong and show a glass half full mentality to those who I knew would be devastated. This video just completely shifted my own views of myself. I was just dealing with what was in front of me. I was just trying to do everything I could think of that would make the death of a mother, sister, daughter, and friend as easy as it possibly could be. “You have to be brutal to be useful in the aftermath of your parents death... so you kinda have to be some tough monster to manage that.” These words have just instilled something incredibly deep and powerful inside me. Very very ground shaking to hear that come from one of my role models, and my biggest life mentor. ...I sure do hope Jordan’s recovery is continuing to grow stronger.
I just saw Dr Peterson last night! He was as funny and bright as ever! I felt so lucky to go watch him in person and I enjoyed his interactive conversation with the audience... I look forward to seeing him again !!! It was also my birthday ...What an amazing experience that was !!!
I work in a call centre that takes calls for advise from nurses, we just take the details and pass it onto the nurse so we maybe only spend 2-3 minutes getting details usually from a family member, sometimes the patient and even that can be rough. More often then not we get the call and the family member who is very calm, polite, patient and we take their details and ask what the situation is and they say their family member has died and it shocks me everytime because they are just so calm and collected the entire call. Then we take a call for a non palliative client and the customer is crying, distraught and raving and it's because a dog is barking next door. Humans are weird creatures.
I try to implement as much as what Jordan Peterson teaches one step at a time. Key word try. Starts with cleaning my room which I never really did before hearing the importance from the big J.P. man.
Last words of him really spoke to me on a different level. Since I have lost my father, I have become this cold, distant and tough man. Everyone saw it different way but I had to become this person to get things done while everyone was crying, I did what needed to be done. In the process the mask I have put on stayed on me and now we are one, probably will last until the end of my days. Nevertheless, I would do the same if I could face the same situation now, perhaps better way but still the similar transformation. And for me it is the tragedy of life. Life is suffering and pain,all we can get to choose is our reactions and nothing else.
I think what we need is truth and genuine exchange of ideas. harsh reality wouldn't do much damage to me, it actually make me stronger, but lying, hiding, and compromising attitude do traumatized my spirit . I do appreciate his honesty and authenticity while others are just busy pretending we are living in a wonderful world, like following those hippocrates would make this world a prefect place, those people are pathetic
I think that's a great question, that all young people should ask themselves, before they step out into the real world. "Do you want to be useful, or pathetic?"
Thank you Dr. Peterson, personally I believe all names have power. The irony is a man so profound named Peter son, son of the temples rock. Like your name you stand as shining pillar in a seemingly abysmal world.
these words about how tough you really must be to be useful when your parents die. At that moment I thought about how brave my father was when his brother died unexpectedly (he wasn't old, nobody expected he would die on that day), and, man, he never even tried to cry or complain about the injustice of the world after the funeral. Now I realize how tough he really is. Unfortunately, I think I'm pussy comparing to him )))
I agree with Doc, if you are open, discerning, a thinker, and you are not productive with that mind, you may turn it towards yourself and be your worst enemy.
In the face of tragedy I was useful, but then afterwards I was pathetic. I think many people would say the same thing. I would like to know if Dr. Peterson thinks people remain useful or if their strength only lasts for a period of time.
How the heck do you just ask to watch an embalming and then they let you? It's like you hear actors training for the role of a cop so they ride around with police to get an idea of what they go through. it's like *what?! how?!* and *_what_* again!?!?! When i was out of work i'd door knock asking for experience - without pay, didn't think i'd get rejected every single time. Not like the stories you hear from 1950's - 70's where quit your job one morning and (virtually) that same afternoon you'd have another.
I am not afraid of death. I fear the consequences that comes from the process. I have seen plenty of love ones and random people (at a dementia clinics) die. The part i thought was strange i never got sad or lonely. I could see that life was fading and would just tell myself they are now at peace and i should be too with the event. Now social networking and meeting new people... please just burn me instead. I hate meeting people.. There to umm needy.
I'm kind of the same, but with women. I know women are just like us, just as imperfect as us. But from the time I was a child for some reason I've always felt like girls and women, at least the ones I'm attracted to, are flawless creatures. Sometimes I even feel like I'm worshipping women and it's crippling when it comes to flirting and having relationships of any kind with women. I'm 20 years old now and never had any trouble "attracting" women but I don't know how to approach them or maintain myself around them. If anyone might have a suggestion or solution for this, it would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I wish you hope and joy in your search for the one, if you find her she will necessarily seem flawless despite her downsides, i never had a girlfriend until the perfect one do most of the work to dig my shyness, it's been 10 years now and we take the ride until death came for us. Stay true, open yourself, be honest, never cheat and remember the purpose of life is to first survive then procreate. 🙏 Peace & Love Basil 🙏
I know it was probably just an edgy internet comment, but if you really think 4chan compares to real life experience - it only goes to confirming 4chan is a phase teenagers go through. It's akin to kids watching R rated films and thinking they are tough for it.
I seemed to have hit a nerve in such that you can't defend against my argument but have to use a kids tactic: "what about you?" So I stand by my original comment.
Atleast I'm that smart to know that I'm not really smart Atleast I'm that mature that I know I'm a bit pathetic and I can't do all the things Atleast I try my best even though I mostly procrastinate
Seeing someone you love die or dead feels surprisingly natural, I think. Almost disturbingly natural. It's when you do something that you used to do with them but they're not there anymore, that's when it hurts. Hits you all at once. Next thing you know you're thinking. "Where did you go? Why aren't you coming back? Why did you leave me? Don't you know that I need you? Come back. You're not allowed to die."
Joe M man my reaction has always been opposite to how you broke that down. It’s interesting to behold someone grieving this way simply because it’s foreign to how I do it but it’s interesting how different the reaction can be
I had a fear of death, wouldn't look in my mother's casket (I was young and afraid) , but years later on a trip to India, I spent an entire afternoon and evening sitting and watching family members wash, embalm and burn their loved ones on the bank of the Ganges. I sat there until I felt all the fear melt away. Changed my view of death forever.
When he talked about your parents death, I felt that. I was in middle school when I started thinking of my parents death. I wanted to be the one to die first. I couldn't even think that I could handle their death if they were to go ahead of me. Years go by, and I still thought of my parents death as I left our family home. I would rarely see them and afraid that if they die, I wouldn't be there and I wouldn't be able to handle it. Last year, my dad died. In my arms. I was stoic, and handled it responsibly. We were in a public place and I held him as I waited for an medics and an ambulance. I rode in with him in the ambulance. I watched as the doctors were trying to revive him. I didn't shed a tear. I was making sure that everything should be done as it was supposed to.
Your comment gave me so much hope. Im an only child, and throughout my childhood I'd been extremely attached to my parents and very anxious of losing them. My mom died when i was 13. Im 20 now and with only my dad left, i lie late nights just wishing that i die first. I really want to be the useful one, and not pathetic when the situation arises.
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thank you for posting so many videos of this guy yesterday I decided to quit my addiction to my phone and all kinds of other things because he said The more you sacrifice the more potential that you have. and he also mentioned that people are addicted because they don't have something that is better than the addiction to replace it with. I've decided that my potential is what I will replace my addictions with then proceed to make the most out of my life.Thanks.
Thanks for uploading! Also FYI: the slight jitteriness in the video is probably the result of reencoding with a different frame rate than the original. It looks like the original video was ~25 fps, so if this clip was done in 30 fps that's the cause of the jitter.
I’ve had dreams so deep, I had to readjust myself to reality when I woke up. Felt like I’d had a month long holiday, and came back with jet lag and an emotional come down. Our minds can do some incredible things, and all we have to do is be alive and functioning to unlock some of that power.
This man ripped me out of the drone level conscience last year, just by watching a hand full of videos. There were things that I was pushing to the side, unwilling to look at. I didn't have any teeth (metaphorically speaking). I was researching like crazy, aimlessly. RUclips recommended an INFJ video to me and I had no idea what that meant. As I watched, I thought, dam this is me. Then I saw that it was the least common personality type. So I took the MBTI test for the first time and it said I was an INFJ. I felt strong joy and was compelled to find out more about myself. I found SCOTT MORGAN via youtube and he shined a light on my out of control Fe function, which I knew nothing about. He helped me realize I was caught in a Ni Ti loop. He is an INFJ and a counselor. Imediatly I snapped into my head and let go of all the anxste that I was living in dayly. At this point I became the alchemist, able to change how I felt, or able to flip flop a situation around. I was so excited and for two weeks I was on the mad hunt for more. At the end of the second week, RUclips recommended a video from RALPH SMART. He snapped me into the wizard level consciesness via an Indigo video. I was, once again like, that's me! I watched several more videos. One of which he challenged me to make my own video content, even if I could barely talk. So I did and since 11/22/17 I have made 16 videos on my awakening. They start out rough, seeings how I had never videod myself before, ever. I have to mention the fact that I had so much anxste, I was dam near paralyzed on the daily previously. Now I am on top of the world even though I'm a broke 36 yo who just moved back in with mom. I sent a similar comment to Jordan Peterson's page yesterday. I just want to put my story out there in hopes of him seeing it. I want him to know how much I appreciate him. This is probably another shot in the dark, but he is worth my time. He reminds me of my grandfather WALTER M. EDGE. He was a sports article writer for the New York Times in his day. I'm going to check your channel out now, thanx for helping out lost souls like myself.. : ) Sincerely, Jeff D. Hall
Is it tragic that I'm the only one who would show up at my parents' funeral since they've alienated all other family members and are so anti-social that they have no friends or loved ones? At least I don't have to worry about being useful at their funeral. I only have my own private existential pain to face.
Michelle I don't think it's tragic. They did have you and each other after all. And even if they didn't, things are only tragic to oneself when oneself states so. If they weren't sad about being alone, who are we to judge them.
This man is immeasurably intelligent and wise. I just absolutely love listening to him explain my own behaviors and thoughts to me, and also tell me WHY I think and act in certain ways. He's amazing. No bones about it!!
It’s really annoying, I have a high IQ but my openness is average. I rarely create anything, and when I do it’s generally pretty shit. I’d love to have a conversation with JP about shit like that 😕
he was spot on about the creative release thing. if u dont make anything, whether thats art, music, food, a piece of writing- anything- you'll really suffer.
Ha ha! I worked in palliative care in Germany for several years, now I'm a funeral celebrant! Never considered myself as tough, actually. 190 funerals last year.
Next Please When he said it I though it also depends on your views on death. I mean, if you keep in mind we're all going to die, helping people who are dying do it peacefully doesn't seem like such a traumatic job.
seen it, and i don't see a difference, even youtube has gory content dont really see your point tbh are you trying to tell me that you know more gorier website and live leak is weak sauce ? can u actually explain yourself and show it as a real thing, you got some statistics that show that theync gore is worse and its better to watch that or watching theync goe is gona make me collapse from the horror there is idk really KNOW WHAT YOU TRY TO DO HERE MATE
I am so looking forward to recording our dreams (we’re almost there, look it up) and being able to more thoroughly examine them, if only for the entertainment value. Oddly enough, as an occasional lucid dreamer, I once was lucid enough to recognize my late father in my dream and remembered that he was dead in real life. I asked him if he wanted me to tell mom anything? In his ever so typical manner he replied “Just tell her anything!” Mom agreed, that was just like him.
Actually its interesting because I've had dreams and they have come true in real life. It's like the weirdest deja vu ever so I would love to record my dreams and go over them again.
First 2 minutes hit HARD! I'm a Chatholic but nihilsitic stuff tends to pop up in my mind every now and then (probably cause I haven't got my life sorted out at all and I'm not doing much with it) I keep wanting to do creative stuff but immidiately shut it down due to being a perfectionist and feeling its "not worth it" or "I should be doing something else" but cause of my other problems don't do any of this stuff consistently... "They critisize themselves out of existence" indeed... Not sure what to do about this delima, but I'll hopefully figure it out...eventually...
@@GoFinkle I'm really sorry that you're suffering. I know it's not easy and the people around us sometimes make it worse. If it helps just remember that you're not alone. I think of it this way. Yes life can be shit but I've been through a lot already and I've come out stronger. Life is a bitch but you can handle it. You are much stronger than you think. Hugs ❤
Sounds like his friend Chris he talked about in his book. 😭. It’s like he unconsciously wipes tears. And himself. Which is always what he tries to help people with. What’s wrong with him.
I remember as a child watching my parents butcher chickens. You know the whole process. Well, now 70 years later, I watch these episodes and depending on what my psyche is contemplating, I see that being exposed as a child on a farm is important, and must be followed with dialogue between mother and child to be a healthy adult, and forms us into the creature we become, of saint and sinner in one. the god man creature.
I grew up on a farm and hunting. It does change your life perspective. At no point did anyone want to *hurt* an animal. We wanted to kill it and eat it. I wouldn't go so far as to say that we had reverence, but there was definitely compassion and appreciation for the process. Death was an unpleasant necessity of life. Young people now days are so sheltered that they can't cope with reality. That's not a healthy place to be mentally.
I truly believe that the roots of many problems lie in the fact our society pulls people off of farms and into cities where urban living separates people from the cycle of life and death and insulates them from where our food comes from. I, too, grew up on a farm and commonly saw my dad slaughter rabbits for sale to a local butcher (and our dinner table). He also hunted and fished so I grew up knowing the sacredness of life - and of living.
I'm 17 and I've done 6 months of volunteering at a palliative care unit, and it really isn't as troubling as you think it is to constantly see people die.
TheIcanntspel it feels very strange I must say, especially when you're alone with that person, since you're at that point technically the only person in the room and that's hard to wrap your head around when you're staring at what was just another living human being a few minutes ago. In the moment the gravity of the situation doesn't really dawn on you at all, to be honest they just look like they're sleeping, afterwards is when you start to really think about it. I guess the reason it hasn't troubled me as much as other people who see people die is because I'm always expecting it given the nature of the place I'm in. I can't even begin to imagine what it feels like to see someone die suddenly and unexpectedly though
Seeing old and/or sick people die is not necessarily traumatizing. When my father died I was glad he was finally at peace. People have looked at me weirdly when I said I wasn't sad he was dead but they didn't see him during his illness.
K D100 I once met a guy who worked at a morgue and he was talking about how he was trying to get another job because constantly seeing children and people his age(under thirty) dead every day was really messing with him. I think the really troubling part is thinking about how much life was taken away from a person. He also told us to *never* ride a motorcycle.
Speaking of dreams, I guess because I watched so many of his lectures lately and reading his book, I had a dream about J. Peterson. I got meet him and thanked him for all of his work :)
If you think Reddit is sorted out in any way whatsoever, then you've either not been on Reddit before or you're on Reddit far too much for your own good. Edit: I know this comment was 2 years old, maybe your opinion on it has changed by now.
This video really resonated with me. My father died unexpectedly in February 2009. He was a tax accountant, and he had clients coming... that day... in less than an hour. I went to see him at the hospital and immediately went to his office and began making phone calls. It was almost like I had to compartmentalize my grief because there were things that needed to be taken care of immediately. I wanted to fall in a heap but couldn't. Although feeling "useful" isn't how I would describe that event, I felt numb and being driven by something that wasn't me. I don't know if that makes sense?
There was a lot I wanted to say but drunk at 01:00 in the morning isn't the best time to collect my thoughts but JP is so insightful although I may challenge some of his opinions with debate out of curiosity.
@@vivianwill9341 Their job is not to burden other people's problems. Unless you wanna stand in your own way or feel satisfied where you at, make a therapist's years of study and hard work useful for both you. :)
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I didn't cry when my grandparents passed away. I still haven't, I was their power of attorney and I was there with them as they were dying for years, but relatives that never visited had the most draumatic wailing cries. I would congratulate people on a happy funeral, I simply don't feel that death should be a taboo thing, rather just as we celebrate birthdays and weddings we should also celebrate the eventual death.
@@andyonlysmaller6557 I disagree to an extent. Death is painful and celebrating death would mean make it common and make murderer feeling even less responsible at some point. I see pros and cons to your solution.
@@Sol_Badguy_GG death is actually very common, 100% of everything alive in existence will end. This is what makes our time alive unique and special. Murder is painful because it is cutting the life experience short and not because of death itself.
I hope he feels better soon. We want his amazing mind back to academia.
In case you haven't checked it out, his daughter uploaded a podcast with him. He discusses his illness and current recovery. Good stuff.
Kodex I Is he doing better though?
What happened?
hell yeah bro and who found himself in the first seconds?
@@clsdchnnl9273 much better. From what he said, it appears he was in reeaally bad shape.
The weird thing is, when I was 25 years old I told a joke on a bar, with my best college friend, and everything I hear Dr. Peterson tells makes me feel I was spot on with the coment.
I said to that friend (we're both inteligent, and pretty troubled, and even more at 20 something, at the senior year at our first college degrees - marketing): We're both bright and useless. Like christmas trees!
Man, it was all anyone had to say about us both. And only after a LOT of change we started to really work towards our goals. Now we both changed our professional directions, I'm a lawyer and he is a neuroscientist.
I actually really like this
Diego Belingieri congrats. How old are you now? (Aka how long did it take you two to go from Christmas trees to professionals?)
Matthew L yup even I wanna know and all I am is bleach! :)
Diego Belingieri I'm 22 and I feel like I'm in for a real deep-dicking in life. I'm working in construction, playing in a band (guitar/synth is what I play) and I constantly go back and forth as to whether or not I want to go back to school. Oh yeah and I can dance like an absolute monster haha but uh, other than that I'm a goner if I don't do something. Yup, better get the KY jelly cause this life is gonna have it's way with me if I don't do anything about it lol
Matthew and Chlorox:
I'm 37, and I decided to go to a law school at 31. Graduated at 35, completed my specialization this year. I'm behind my peers because I'm just starting a career at this age, but at least I'm moving forward. I actually hated the whole publicity industry.
My friend managed to do it better, he first became a philosophy professor (his masters), then entered a psychology doctorate, but didn't really like it, for he likes hard sciences better than applied. He then abandoned it and went for neurosciences as a behavioral deterministic agent, and with that he managed to link it to marketing, earning a decent income through a consulting company.
He was more strategic, I almost totally lost my time invested in the marketing and publicity other than, by a small margin, acting in consumer law cases.
Thomas: There's nothing wrong about having fun and also a blue collar life can be pretty fulfilling if you plan accordingly and don't change your mind later, but you gotta create a strategy, you could even have your own company someday even if you just don't feel like going to college. And if you manage to have a stable, sufficient income, spend your entertainment time with your band and dancing :)
He has changed psychology for the better... i listen to all his lectures..i wish I could just sit in your class let alone have a great dialogue!!! I hope he's recovering well
“If you can’t even think about that, man you’ve got some thinking to do”
I'm so glad that he is doing much better and that his successful recovery is continued in my country of Serbia!
I wish would be more Jordan Peterson man around and no media this days. Some common sense serves everyone well especially when is the truth, no agenda, just the truth about humans.
literally i struggle with the self criticism so much it’s so debilitating
I’m 20 years old, my mother died 2 years ago next month, 2 weeks before I started my first semester of college, which I completed before deciding to take a year off.
I pushed through it, moved out of the house of my stepfather of 15 years who found a new girlfriend within months, have found a reliable, flexible schedule job and am trying to go back to college during corona.
The moment my mom died, I decided that it would be ME who comforted other people. So when I made all the calls to what little family we had in california, I made sure to be as supportive as possible, and to not show tears, but to be strong and show a glass half full mentality to those who I knew would be devastated.
This video just completely shifted my own views of myself.
I was just dealing with what was in front of me. I was just trying to do everything I could think of that would make the death of a mother, sister, daughter, and friend as easy as it possibly could be.
“You have to be brutal to be useful in the aftermath of your parents death... so you kinda have to be some tough monster to manage that.”
These words have just instilled something incredibly deep and powerful inside me. Very very ground shaking to hear that come from one of my role models, and my biggest life mentor.
...I sure do hope Jordan’s recovery is continuing to grow stronger.
I just saw Dr Peterson last night! He was as funny and bright as ever! I felt so lucky to go watch him in person and I enjoyed his interactive conversation with the audience... I look forward to seeing him again !!! It was also my birthday ...What an amazing experience that was !!!
I work in a call centre that takes calls for advise from nurses, we just take the details and pass it onto the nurse so we maybe only spend 2-3 minutes getting details usually from a family member, sometimes the patient and even that can be rough.
More often then not we get the call and the family member who is very calm, polite, patient and we take their details and ask what the situation is and they say their family member has died and it shocks me everytime because they are just so calm and collected the entire call.
Then we take a call for a non palliative client and the customer is crying, distraught and raving and it's because a dog is barking next door.
Humans are weird creatures.
I try to implement as much as what Jordan Peterson teaches one step at a time. Key word try. Starts with cleaning my room which I never really did before hearing the importance from the big J.P. man.
This resonates so much! Thanks for sharing it with us!
May we all be witnesses to Jordan's true humanity.
We are he.
And, may he find strength, healing and love on his journey forward.
Straight, honest and resonating. Brilliant.
This Human has helped me Greatly. Truly.
Last words of him really spoke to me on a different level. Since I have lost my father, I have become this cold, distant and tough man. Everyone saw it different way but I had to become this person to get things done while everyone was crying, I did what needed to be done. In the process the mask I have put on stayed on me and now we are one, probably will last until the end of my days. Nevertheless, I would do the same if I could face the same situation now, perhaps better way but still the similar transformation. And for me it is the tragedy of life. Life is suffering and pain,all we can get to choose is our reactions and nothing else.
I think what we need is truth and genuine exchange of ideas. harsh reality wouldn't do much damage to me, it actually make me stronger, but lying, hiding, and compromising attitude do traumatized my spirit . I do appreciate his honesty and authenticity while others are just busy pretending we are living in a wonderful world, like following those hippocrates would make this world a prefect place, those people are pathetic
He describes me exactly with dreamlike and no outlet.
Truth. As long asI'm creating I'm happy
Yep. That's me. Except for the Princess part.
I rediscovered music. Vitality returning.
Sure...
I think that's a great question, that all young people should ask themselves, before they step out into the real world. "Do you want to be useful, or pathetic?"
Hey thank you !
Thank you Dr. Peterson, personally I believe all names have power. The irony is a man so profound named Peter son, son of the temples rock. Like your name you stand as shining pillar in a seemingly abysmal world.
LOL that thumbnail! :-))
these words about how tough you really must be to be useful when your parents die. At that moment I thought about how brave my father was when his brother died unexpectedly (he wasn't old, nobody expected he would die on that day), and, man, he never even tried to cry or complain about the injustice of the world after the funeral. Now I realize how tough he really is. Unfortunately, I think I'm pussy comparing to him )))
I agree with Doc, if you are open, discerning, a thinker, and you are not productive with that mind, you may turn it towards yourself and be your worst enemy.
He perfectly described me wtf
I feel that psychology is his strong est point...
he 100% nailed me in the first 1:30
He accurately described my character in the beginning of the video , I dont like that about psychiatrists , even though I lobe this man
Wtf that was very accurate
TOO accurate if you ask me.
Those people are truly damn tough coz that's a horrifying job
damn okay yes sir
I wonder how common it is for therapists to be that involved with their patients? He seems to take it far beyond the 'talking cure'
I also have those dreams. THOSE dreams.
I needed someone other than myself who could interpret them to help understanding them better.
Do you want to be useful, or pathetic? Well, make your choice.
Words to live by.
"You"? That's me! :0
In the face of tragedy I was useful, but then afterwards I was pathetic. I think many people would say the same thing. I would like to know if Dr. Peterson thinks people remain useful or if their strength only lasts for a period of time.
How the heck do you just ask to watch an embalming and then they let you? It's like you hear actors training for the role of a cop so they ride around with police to get an idea of what they go through. it's like *what?! how?!* and *_what_* again!?!?! When i was out of work i'd door knock asking for experience - without pay, didn't think i'd get rejected every single time. Not like the stories you hear from 1950's - 70's where quit your job one morning and (virtually) that same afternoon you'd have another.
I am not afraid of death. I fear the consequences that comes from the process.
I have seen plenty of love ones and random people (at a dementia clinics) die. The part i thought was strange i never got sad or lonely. I could see that life was fading and would just tell myself they are now at peace and i should be too with the event.
Now social networking and meeting new people... please just burn me instead. I hate meeting people..
There to umm needy.
I feel like I'm high in openness but low in compassion
He sounds a lot like glenn from the tv show superstore
I don't dream
Goddamn he knows
Wow that hit home! I'm no Elon musk by any means but I defo need to create something at the minute.
Man, I wish this guy was my father. 😬🤣
No, this doesn't apply to me. I've listened to every one of Peterson's uploads. I've listened to this particular monologue 3 times at least
I'm kind of the same, but with women.
I know women are just like us, just as imperfect as us.
But from the time I was a child for some reason I've always felt like girls and women, at least the ones I'm attracted to, are flawless creatures.
Sometimes I even feel like I'm worshipping women and it's crippling when it comes to flirting and having relationships of any kind with women.
I'm 20 years old now and never had any trouble "attracting" women but I don't know how to approach them or maintain myself around them.
If anyone might have a suggestion or solution for this, it would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I wish you hope and joy in your search for the one, if you find her she will necessarily seem flawless despite her downsides, i never had a girlfriend until the perfect one do most of the work to dig my shyness, it's been 10 years now and we take the ride until death came for us.
Stay true, open yourself, be honest, never cheat and remember the purpose of life is to first survive then procreate.
🙏 Peace & Love Basil 🙏
If you cant think about it man, you've got alot to think about.
Im sorry but that was funny. I like how Peterson tells it like it is.
That goes for all the people that dont have an opinion about anything.
Oh, he's saying embalming. I thought he was saying they were going to see a bombing XD
this comment would've been so much funnier if the profile pic was of Bin Laden
I mean that could work too hahaha
Even I thought that 😂😂😂
@E.V.A V2000 "You have to be high on opiates to like my lectures" lololol
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅
"They criticize themselves out of existence" OMW I can't stop laughing... it's true
That’s not good. Sort it out
@@benjaminsibson8760 dude ifkrrrrrr, i was like omggg in the first 2 mins 😂
Yeeepp basicaly me
The one girl could have saved a trip to the slaughter house and just gone to 4chan.
I know it was probably just an edgy internet comment, but if you really think 4chan compares to real life experience - it only goes to confirming 4chan is a phase teenagers go through. It's akin to kids watching R rated films and thinking they are tough for it.
Dexterity So, since you took the time to respond to an "edgy comment," What does that say about you?
I seemed to have hit a nerve in such that you can't defend against my argument but have to use a kids tactic: "what about you?"
So I stand by my original comment.
Dexterity Ok.
Ok.
"he doesn't know anything about me" I said.
- 5 minutes later -
"goddamn it!
"You wanna be useful in the face of tragedy or do you wanna be.. pathetic? Well... You make your choice.""
Right in your face
"As a youth, I used to weep in butcher's shops"
Yup. I used to work with a bunch of guys that provided end of life services for lots of people...
Mostly people in the Middle East...
Snow White so you worked for the army?
No.
I said a bunch of guys that provided end of life services LOTS of people.
@@snowwhite7677 funeral services?
Snow White hitmen?
Atleast I'm that smart to know that I'm not really smart
Atleast I'm that mature that I know I'm a bit pathetic and I can't do all the things
Atleast I try my best even though I mostly procrastinate
LaifuThe Life Very much the same!
The type of people that DONT think like this annoy the shit out of me.
i feel the same
but in the end how will that benefit you?
it won’t,you’re just going to feel more miserable and pathetic every time you procrastinate
I m you , you are me... Lol , its so relatable, like I know I m not smart but I have a lot to learn n done even if I procrastinate
Seeing someone you love die or dead feels surprisingly natural, I think. Almost disturbingly natural. It's when you do something that you used to do with them but they're not there anymore, that's when it hurts. Hits you all at once. Next thing you know you're thinking. "Where did you go? Why aren't you coming back? Why did you leave me? Don't you know that I need you? Come back. You're not allowed to die."
Quit trying to make people cry with ur comments😂
@@maxmoseley7490 Yes. That was my scheme all along. You got me.
@@maxmoseley7490 lmmaaoo
Joe M man my reaction has always been opposite to how you broke that down. It’s interesting to behold someone grieving this way simply because it’s foreign to how I do it but it’s interesting how different the reaction can be
Thomas Connolly sad thing is there’s always one person who gotta die first in relationships..
I had a fear of death, wouldn't look in my mother's casket (I was young and afraid) , but years later on a trip to India, I spent an entire afternoon and evening sitting and watching family members wash, embalm and burn their loved ones on the bank of the Ganges. I sat there until I felt all the fear melt away. Changed my view of death forever.
When he talked about your parents death, I felt that. I was in middle school when I started thinking of my parents death. I wanted to be the one to die first. I couldn't even think that I could handle their death if they were to go ahead of me. Years go by, and I still thought of my parents death as I left our family home. I would rarely see them and afraid that if they die, I wouldn't be there and I wouldn't be able to handle it.
Last year, my dad died. In my arms. I was stoic, and handled it responsibly. We were in a public place and I held him as I waited for an medics and an ambulance. I rode in with him in the ambulance. I watched as the doctors were trying to revive him.
I didn't shed a tear. I was making sure that everything should be done as it was supposed to.
Your comment gave me so much hope. Im an only child, and throughout my childhood I'd been extremely attached to my parents and very anxious of losing them. My mom died when i was 13. Im 20 now and with only my dad left, i lie late nights just wishing that i die first. I really want to be the useful one, and not pathetic when the situation arises.
Bless you
Watching an embalming? Dude has some commitment.
As this is related to the video, I would like to let you know that Dr. Peterson and his colleagues developed the online program “Self Authoring” bit.ly/SelfAuthoring that helps you to analyze your past, to get your present life in order and to identify a more rewarding path for your future. It’s not free, but it has been proven to work in studies performed with university students. (Sorry, I make this sound like some toothpaste ad).
Jordan Peterson Fan Channel is an official affiliate of the program, so if you follow the link through, you will not only support Jordan Peterson and his endeavors but also this channel in a small way - and most importantly yourself.
Thank you and all the best!
thank you for posting so many videos of this guy yesterday I decided to quit my addiction to my phone and all kinds of other things because he said The more you sacrifice the more potential that you have. and he also mentioned that people are addicted because they don't have something that is better than the addiction to replace it with. I've decided that my potential is what I will replace my addictions with then proceed to make the most out of my life.Thanks.
Steven Seewald Hey! 1 month ago i deleted all social media from my phone, it was tough but life is so much more relaxing now. Good luck!
J E will do!
Oh yeah, And your link is a virus
you lying lil shit
He's literally talking about me. The constant dreams, logical self criticism, tree with damaged branches, everything.
"Do you want to be useful when faced with tragedy or do you want to be pathetic?"
Amazing
Thanks for uploading!
Also FYI: the slight jitteriness in the video is probably the result of reencoding with a different frame rate than the original. It looks like the original video was ~25 fps, so if this clip was done in 30 fps that's the cause of the jitter.
Thank you. I just looked the fps up, and you are spot-on. I'll try to adjust this with the next clip.
Damn it. I hadn’t noticed until you said that.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
I’ve had dreams so deep, I had to readjust myself to reality when I woke up. Felt like I’d had a month long holiday, and came back with jet lag and an emotional come down. Our minds can do some incredible things, and all we have to do is be alive and functioning to unlock some of that power.
sometimes he sounds like intelligent version of Michael Scott to me !! so genuine and concerned for his people !!
This man ripped me out of the drone level conscience last year, just by watching a hand full of videos. There were things that I was pushing to the side, unwilling to look at. I didn't have any teeth (metaphorically speaking). I was researching like crazy, aimlessly. RUclips recommended an INFJ video to me and I had no idea what that meant. As I watched, I thought, dam this is me. Then I saw that it was the least common personality type. So I took the MBTI test for the first time and it said I was an INFJ. I felt strong joy and was compelled to find out more about myself. I found SCOTT MORGAN via youtube and he shined a light on my out of control Fe function, which I knew nothing about. He helped me realize I was caught in a Ni Ti loop. He is an INFJ and a counselor. Imediatly I snapped into my head and let go of all the anxste that I was living in dayly. At this point I became the alchemist, able to change how I felt, or able to flip flop a situation around. I was so excited and for two weeks I was on the mad hunt for more. At the end of the second week, RUclips recommended a video from RALPH SMART. He snapped me into the wizard level consciesness via an Indigo video. I was, once again like, that's me! I watched several more videos. One of which he challenged me to make my own video content, even if I could barely talk. So I did and since 11/22/17 I have made 16 videos on my awakening. They start out rough, seeings how I had never videod myself before, ever. I have to mention the fact that I had so much anxste, I was dam near paralyzed on the daily previously. Now I am on top of the world even though I'm a broke 36 yo who just moved back in with mom. I sent a similar comment to Jordan Peterson's page yesterday. I just want to put my story out there in hopes of him seeing it. I want him to know how much I appreciate him. This is probably another shot in the dark, but he is worth my time. He reminds me of my grandfather WALTER M. EDGE. He was a sports article writer for the New York Times in his day. I'm going to check your channel out now, thanx for helping out lost souls like myself.. : )
Sincerely, Jeff D. Hall
What is it like to move back home at your age? How did it happen? How do you plan to move forward?
Knowing from experience, "initiations" are one of the best tools to have a good quality of life.
The criticize themselves out of existence. Profoundly true! So happy to watch your lecture here! Thank you for posting.🌻😊💜🎶🇺🇸
We love you Jordan!! I just wish I'd found you before the SJW cult got their claws into me!
Never thought to ask what a character represented in a lucid dream.
Most of the time in my teenage years I'd just go and have sex during lucid dreams
@@vilmiswow bwahahahahaha😂😂😂same here😂
Is it tragic that I'm the only one who would show up at my parents' funeral since they've alienated all other family members and are so anti-social that they have no friends or loved ones? At least I don't have to worry about being useful at their funeral. I only have my own private existential pain to face.
Michelle I don't think it's tragic. They did have you and each other after all. And even if they didn't, things are only tragic to oneself when oneself states so. If they weren't sad about being alone, who are we to judge them.
Not like they could take that sentiment with them, really.
This man is immeasurably intelligent and wise. I just absolutely love listening to him explain my own behaviors and thoughts to me, and also tell me WHY I think and act in certain ways. He's amazing. No bones about it!!
It’s really annoying, I have a high IQ but my openness is average. I rarely create anything, and when I do it’s generally pretty shit. I’d love to have a conversation with JP about shit like that 😕
he was spot on about the creative release thing. if u dont make anything, whether thats art, music, food, a piece of writing- anything- you'll really suffer.
Ha ha! I worked in palliative care in Germany for several years, now I'm a funeral celebrant! Never considered myself as tough, actually. 190 funerals last year.
Next Please When he said it I though it also depends on your views on death. I mean, if you keep in mind we're all going to die, helping people who are dying do it peacefully doesn't seem like such a traumatic job.
Yeah those r bloody slabs of meat, I don’t know y everyone isn’t screaming
Lol
watch some liveleak and u be gucci :D
1,429,149 views try theync, come back later
seen it, and i don't see a difference, even youtube has gory content dont really see your point tbh are you trying to tell me that you know more gorier website and live leak is weak sauce ? can u actually explain yourself and show it as a real thing, you got some statistics that show that theync gore is worse and its better to watch that or watching theync goe is gona make me collapse from the horror there is idk really KNOW WHAT YOU TRY TO DO HERE MATE
I am so looking forward to recording our dreams (we’re almost there, look it up) and being able to more thoroughly examine them, if only for the entertainment value. Oddly enough, as an occasional lucid dreamer, I once was lucid enough to recognize my late father in my dream and remembered that he was dead in real life. I asked him if he wanted me to tell mom anything? In his ever so typical manner he replied “Just tell her anything!” Mom agreed, that was just like him.
Actually its interesting because I've had dreams and they have come true in real life. It's like the weirdest deja vu ever so I would love to record my dreams and go over them again.
First 2 minutes hit HARD! I'm a Chatholic but nihilsitic stuff tends to pop up in my mind every now and then (probably cause I haven't got my life sorted out at all and I'm not doing much with it) I keep wanting to do creative stuff but immidiately shut it down due to being a perfectionist and feeling its "not worth it" or "I should be doing something else" but cause of my other problems don't do any of this stuff consistently...
"They critisize themselves out of existence" indeed...
Not sure what to do about this delima, but I'll hopefully figure it out...eventually...
EVERY SINGLE LECTURE THIS MAN GIVES IM THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. A LITTLE ENCOURAGEMENT WOULD BE HELPFUL
With tongue firmly in cheek, try to think of it in a SJW/neomarxist/3rd wave feminist kind of way, everything must be destroyed and then rebuilt.
Lmao start with making your bed every morning bucko
@@khyati7733 I'm glad my suffering makes you laugh your ass off
@@GoFinkle I'm really sorry that you're suffering. I know it's not easy and the people around us sometimes make it worse. If it helps just remember that you're not alone. I think of it this way. Yes life can be shit but I've been through a lot already and I've come out stronger. Life is a bitch but you can handle it. You are much stronger than you think. Hugs ❤
@@GoFinkle It's not entirely a joke. I'm in a similarly bad spot, and making my bed every morning did legitimately help a little.
This guy has changed my life so profoundly it makes me wanna cry. 🐐
Sounds like his friend Chris he talked about in his book. 😭. It’s like he unconsciously wipes tears. And himself. Which is always what he tries to help people with. What’s wrong with him.
I can't believe that Jordan Peterson mentioned me by name in this video. He really talked about me!
What he said about criticizing yourself like crazy is true I’m always down bc every thing I do is never enough
Useful in the face of tragedy.... or pathetic. one of those that need someone to take care of them. Make your choice.
I remember as a child watching my parents butcher chickens. You know the whole process. Well, now 70 years later, I watch these episodes and depending on what my psyche is contemplating, I see that being exposed as a child on a farm is important, and must be followed with dialogue between mother and child to be a healthy adult, and forms us into the creature we become, of saint and sinner in one. the god man creature.
You are right! I think we'd have a better relationship with life and death.
How many bodies in the basement 😣
I grew up on a farm and hunting. It does change your life perspective. At no point did anyone want to *hurt* an animal. We wanted to kill it and eat it. I wouldn't go so far as to say that we had reverence, but there was definitely compassion and appreciation for the process. Death was an unpleasant necessity of life.
Young people now days are so sheltered that they can't cope with reality. That's not a healthy place to be mentally.
I truly believe that the roots of many problems lie in the fact our society pulls people off of farms and into cities where urban living separates people from the cycle of life and death and insulates them from where our food comes from. I, too, grew up on a farm and commonly saw my dad slaughter rabbits for sale to a local butcher (and our dinner table). He also hunted and fished so I grew up knowing the sacredness of life - and of living.
Yup. I used to work with a bunch of guys that provided end of life services for lots of people...
Mostly people in the Middle East...
Just did his understand myself test and realized I'm high in openess 😂. It's so amazing how accurate he is
I'm 17 and I've done 6 months of volunteering at a palliative care unit, and it really isn't as troubling as you think it is to constantly see people die.
hakeem_shizzle What's it like to watch someone die?
TheIcanntspel it feels very strange I must say, especially when you're alone with that person, since you're at that point technically the only person in the room and that's hard to wrap your head around when you're staring at what was just another living human being a few minutes ago. In the moment the gravity of the situation doesn't really dawn on you at all, to be honest they just look like they're sleeping, afterwards is when you start to really think about it. I guess the reason it hasn't troubled me as much as other people who see people die is because I'm always expecting it given the nature of the place I'm in. I can't even begin to imagine what it feels like to see someone die suddenly and unexpectedly though
Yes, I've been there. It was very different to what you would think.
Seeing old and/or sick people die is not necessarily traumatizing. When my father died I was glad he was finally at peace. People have looked at me weirdly when I said I wasn't sad he was dead but they didn't see him during his illness.
K D100 I once met a guy who worked at a morgue and he was talking about how he was trying to get another job because constantly seeing children and people his age(under thirty) dead every day was really messing with him. I think the really troubling part is thinking about how much life was taken away from a person.
He also told us to *never* ride a motorcycle.
Speaking of dreams, I guess because I watched so many of his lectures lately and reading his book, I had a dream about J. Peterson. I got meet him and thanked him for all of his work :)
Oh wow! I hope your dreams comes true! 😄
Damn the more n more lectures i watch the more insight i gain thank you Jordan
Is it just me, or is RUclips sorting itself out and becoming Reddit?
If you think Reddit is sorted out in any way whatsoever, then you've either not been on Reddit before or you're on Reddit far too much for your own good.
Edit: I know this comment was 2 years old, maybe your opinion on it has changed by now.
I am trying to imagine the feeling of losing my mother, but i can’t. It’s gonna hit hard, how do you prepare yourself for that?
This video really resonated with me. My father died unexpectedly in February 2009. He was a tax accountant, and he had clients coming... that day... in less than an hour. I went to see him at the hospital and immediately went to his office and began making phone calls. It was almost like I had to compartmentalize my grief because there were things that needed to be taken care of immediately. I wanted to fall in a heap but couldn't. Although feeling "useful" isn't how I would describe that event, I felt numb and being driven by something that wasn't me. I don't know if that makes sense?
Jordan Peterson Talks about YOU...did anyone else get scared when they read the title?
There was a lot I wanted to say but drunk at 01:00 in the morning isn't the best time to collect my thoughts but JP is so insightful although I may challenge some of his opinions with debate out of curiosity.
I'm to prideful to ever have a therapist. A simple handshake with this hero would suffice.
I always feel worse after i tell people my problems. Thats why a therapist wouldnt work for me.
@@vivianwill9341 yh well maybe its shit you need to hear
@@josephbennett82 i dont like to burden people with my problems, even if it is their job.
@@vivianwill9341 Their job is not to burden other people's problems. Unless you wanna stand in your own way or feel satisfied where you at, make a therapist's years of study and hard work useful for both you. :)
True courage requires vulnerability.
Only a minute in and it's so relateable I feel like I don't even wanna finish it