V for Vendetta is really funny because the comic is a really well thought out anarchist thesis where one of it's core points is "Britain almost became fascist only a few decades after WWII" And it depicted exactly why fascism was appealing and all the quiet horror it unleashed and how it could generate someone like V as an antithesis that was just "mere" anarchy but a direct rhetorical antagonist to it Then the movie is an action cartoon with all of that stripped out
Makes me think about how the Pet Sematary novel is filled with depictions of the ugliness of humans just living their lives compared to the movies which gut all of those elements in favor of making a spooky spooky slasher flick.
That's what happened in my country , when we shifted towards democracy and multiparty system people choose regressive islamist party that promoted to abolish democracy and even the republic system
It's not "people" as much as blaming uneducated people for choosing servitude People are people It's the duty of the communists to raise the class consciousness
@@dord4453 true , however in my country a lot of them where assassinated , and accused of treason and serving others interests (also accused of «fighting islam»)
I so cannot agree with him on the immigrant question. After the immigration waves, crimes skyrocketed in countries that took most of these so-called "refugees" in, Sweden became the rape capitol of Europe, and only 2nd in the world after South Africa. SWEDEN, before the migrant waves Sweden was an example country on how to lead! When the war in Ukraine happened, then we saw real refugees, women, children, elderly, with some young men, most of them stayed behind to fight the Russians. But when I see videos of these, again, so-called "refugees" I only see young men. Where are the women and children? Also, funny enough, the Swedish government reported that once these immigrants are granted citizenship, 70% of them returned to the country they "fled" from to celebrate and then came back to Sweden. I keep telling people to account for countries in the world where there is a Muslim majority, and to how is that country run, now Imagine that will happen in your country as well... There is no such thing as Islamophobia, but the other way around, Islam is afraid of everything that is not Islamic, they are the ones that want to change us, they want us to build them mosques and to respect their traditions, yet if you go to any Muslim country you could be executed if you're gay, just to say one example. And if you as a woman go to the local police because you were raped they will put you to jail. Basically they don't belong to Europe, because they don't care about integrating... and of course I am not talking about the minority of Muslims who actually want a better life and are integrating, I'm talking about the majority, and the point is this, if the majority acts like this, then we shouldn't allow the minority as well...too much risk, we cant profile every person individually... Europe and the Islam are not compatible...
Yeah.... the only time right wingers suddenly become such advocates for women is when they can use that as a springboard to attack a group they hate even more. Everything you say is like you lifted it straight from a fox news piece.
As an Iranian I fully agree with you, unfortunately western people know nothing of islam and islamists and romanticize the situation. These things you say is a clear truth for us Iranians but in europe they would call you a islamophobe. We lived at the heart of middle east and islamist politics which made most of our people into atheists and non-religious people.
"It's not as simple as that" exactly ... but on the point of your lazily assuming voters are racist for wanting less refugees. It's astounding how people can sympathise with Palestinian violence but not with European's far milder desire to preserve their culture. Its actually pathetically stupid.
Zizek is strangely essentialist about what the future should be. What draws me to Marxist thought is the fact that we build the future up. The future does not come _down_ from on high, as if there is some ideal future up there that we have to bring down from the sky. Rather, the future is like a pyramid that we build up, and we don't know what is at the next level until we reach it, and then once we get there, we can see a glimpse of what the next level after that will be, but still not clearly until we rise up to it. And there is not just one next level, there are infinite ones, which can all emerge depending on the paths we take. So I disagree with him in this idea that you have to have some "grand vision" of what you're going to do. I think we don't know what the future is until we get there....because just like climbing up to a horizon, you don't know what paths you have to take until they come into view.
@@john.premose Real as in Lacanian Real. Yes you are not saying that. Zizek is saying that. You are just saying random stuff. Edit: I know what essentialism is btw and I use that word intentionally and correctly in that the Real is the Platonic identity of the thing in itself within a given, very much so Zizek esque context.
The problem with Marxism is that the path to heaven could easily be the path to hell; there is just no way to know in what direction your cycles of destruction and synthesis take you.
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V for Vendetta is really funny because the comic is a really well thought out anarchist thesis where one of it's core points is "Britain almost became fascist only a few decades after WWII"
And it depicted exactly why fascism was appealing and all the quiet horror it unleashed and how it could generate someone like V as an antithesis that was just "mere" anarchy but a direct rhetorical antagonist to it
Then the movie is an action cartoon with all of that stripped out
Makes me think about how the Pet Sematary novel is filled with depictions of the ugliness of humans just living their lives compared to the movies which gut all of those elements in favor of making a spooky spooky slasher flick.
Ahh, Z talking about "filems" 😌
Correct spelling would be : "fill'em" (with propaganda and surrogate paradigms)
Oh my gott, I talk too much
So? Even some people say that in Britain, Ireland and even the US
😅😅😅
That's what happened in my country , when we shifted towards democracy and multiparty system people choose regressive islamist party that promoted to abolish democracy and even the republic system
Which country are you talking about?
@@nashenas1950 Algeria
It's not "people" as much as blaming uneducated people for choosing servitude
People are people
It's the duty of the communists to raise the class consciousness
@@dord4453 true , however in my country a lot of them where assassinated , and accused of treason and serving others interests (also accused of «fighting islam»)
I appreciate the honesty he has on the issue of “refugees”.
Z for Zendetta 🦆
Zed, not zee
i love thinking sooo much... i once looked at this thing called realitý, it was a terrible thing..
I so cannot agree with him on the immigrant question. After the immigration waves, crimes skyrocketed in countries that took most of these so-called "refugees" in, Sweden became the rape capitol of Europe, and only 2nd in the world after South Africa. SWEDEN, before the migrant waves Sweden was an example country on how to lead! When the war in Ukraine happened, then we saw real refugees, women, children, elderly, with some young men, most of them stayed behind to fight the Russians. But when I see videos of these, again, so-called "refugees" I only see young men. Where are the women and children? Also, funny enough, the Swedish government reported that once these immigrants are granted citizenship, 70% of them returned to the country they "fled" from to celebrate and then came back to Sweden. I keep telling people to account for countries in the world where there is a Muslim majority, and to how is that country run, now Imagine that will happen in your country as well... There is no such thing as Islamophobia, but the other way around, Islam is afraid of everything that is not Islamic, they are the ones that want to change us, they want us to build them mosques and to respect their traditions, yet if you go to any Muslim country you could be executed if you're gay, just to say one example. And if you as a woman go to the local police because you were raped they will put you to jail. Basically they don't belong to Europe, because they don't care about integrating... and of course I am not talking about the minority of Muslims who actually want a better life and are integrating, I'm talking about the majority, and the point is this, if the majority acts like this, then we shouldn't allow the minority as well...too much risk, we cant profile every person individually... Europe and the Islam are not compatible...
Yeah.... the only time right wingers suddenly become such advocates for women is when they can use that as a springboard to attack a group they hate even more. Everything you say is like you lifted it straight from a fox news piece.
quit yappin
Based
As an Iranian I fully agree with you, unfortunately western people know nothing of islam and islamists and romanticize the situation. These things you say is a clear truth for us Iranians but in europe they would call you a islamophobe. We lived at the heart of middle east and islamist politics which made most of our people into atheists and non-religious people.
Well said
"It's not as simple as that" exactly ... but on the point of your lazily assuming voters are racist for wanting less refugees. It's astounding how people can sympathise with Palestinian violence but not with European's far milder desire to preserve their culture. Its actually pathetically stupid.
"culture" do you know why is there a refugee crisis?
All I know that rape is bad and we should combat it by any means.
Also, TND TTD TKD@@dord4453
@@dord4453 There isn’t one.
What do refugees have to do with your culture?
👍🏾🙏🏾
Zizek is strangely essentialist about what the future should be. What draws me to Marxist thought is the fact that we build the future up. The future does not come _down_ from on high, as if there is some ideal future up there that we have to bring down from the sky. Rather, the future is like a pyramid that we build up, and we don't know what is at the next level until we reach it, and then once we get there, we can see a glimpse of what the next level after that will be, but still not clearly until we rise up to it. And there is not just one next level, there are infinite ones, which can all emerge depending on the paths we take. So I disagree with him in this idea that you have to have some "grand vision" of what you're going to do. I think we don't know what the future is until we get there....because just like climbing up to a horizon, you don't know what paths you have to take until they come into view.
It is "essentialist" in that it (the future) is "essentially" not Real.
@@thee-wastegamer4044 no that is not what I said, and that is not what essentialist means
@@john.premose Real as in Lacanian Real. Yes you are not saying that. Zizek is saying that. You are just saying random stuff.
Edit: I know what essentialism is btw and I use that word intentionally and correctly in that the Real is the Platonic identity of the thing in itself within a given, very much so Zizek esque context.
@@thee-wastegamer4044 I am not saying random stuff. Pretentious hack.
The problem with Marxism is that the path to heaven could easily be the path to hell; there is just no way to know in what direction your cycles of destruction and synthesis take you.