Deep down almost everyone has a probably subconscious sense of infant/toddler sense of security from being controlled and even opressed. Some more than others find it brings back conforts of childhood. Where you give up having to look after yourself to return to that childhood bliss of security.
the disgusting snivelling hack doesnt even know the difference between congress and the capitol... claims bannon is like lenin... claims the right wanted to overhaul the constitution when its COMPLETELY proven that is what the left both wants, and ACTIVELY did in breaking it in many states over the 2020 election, which provenly changed the course of the election... this guy is beyond a fraud@@carlosgaspar8447
@@John-rk2bl You know what's really scary? Rereading this comment from over a month ago I genuinely don't remember which kind of CBT Slavoj was talking about in this video. Edit: it was the sexy kind 👠🥜
The court jester of capitalism aligning ever more closely with Klaus Schwab. Marxism-Leninism is the only answer and this troll's only function within society is to mislead people interested in leftist philosophy with his ramblings. The problem is that he's entertaining to listen to even though he has little of substance to say.
His point is that enjoyment in itself is "bad" (from our point of view). There's no innocent pleasure, bc pleasure exists in relation and in opposition to what we identify as just and good. There is no original and autenthic call of the flesh, pleasure isn't a natural property of our organs. It's artificially engendered in opposition to something else (namely, the lacanian symbolic order).
Zizek's point about the ethical tempation in doing the right thing reminds me of Kierkergaard's leap of faith in "Fear and Trembling". There, he suggests that by all ethical and universal standards, Abraham did the wrong thing to attempt to kill his son Issac, but he was acting under the "teleological suspension of the ethical"in the realm of the religious. I always found this line of reasoning very seductive but very problematic, and I guess Zizek would agree(?), given that Goebbels made essentially the same point to encourage the genocide of the Jewish population.
theology thinks that theological ethics is compatible with philosophical ethics - when we disregard this singular incident. but I think it is too much to over come to make christianity at all appealing (in addition to the fact that Jesus was publicly murdered and yet the Christians redeem themselves and suppose Jesus to redeem themselves) or is the Jesus pain such surplus enjoyment as cock and ball torture, that for this reason he says whatever the Christians want to hear to calm their conscience?
@@julioignacio8124 True, the only justification for "horrific actions" is if it prevents more horrific actions down the line. Nazis shooting innocent people = bad. Shooting nazis = good.
Whoever wrote the O.T. books needed for a God to account for Good, so that human imperfection and vulnerability to Evil was emphasized and sanctioned. Later, with the emergence of the Christ, that imperfection and vulnerability to Evil was actualized to be now celebrated. That seems to be at the core of the ideology.
The ball crusher reminds me of Mt Everest. People pay for the problem. I fortunately got a spinal cord injury that left me paralyzed from the chest down for life for free!
"“Knowledge for its own sake” - this is the final snare morality has laid; with it, we become completely entangled in morals" always comes to mind while Listening to zizek.
When I read the title “Surplus Happiness” the vision of Hitler at the microphone speaking to his enthralled minions, with Ode to Joy playing in the background came to my mind. Guess I’ll have to watch it. He’s always full of surprises.
the disgusting snivelling hack doesnt even know the difference between congress and the capitol... claims bannon is like lenin... claims the right wanted to overhaul the constitution when its COMPLETELY proven that is what the left both wants, and ACTIVELY did in breaking it in many states over the 2020 election, which provenly changed the course of the election... this guy is beyond a fraud
@@williamtsanders Nietzsche Said it, the meaning is that knowledge is sought with interests that lead to oughts or support our presupposed outcome, or at the very least knowledge for knowledge sake as a value is an ought. Zizek is still a communist who admits communism was a total failure. This failure in part is that it is economic/political theory that inverts the oughts gathered from Marx’s untenable theory written by and for a certain group(the only group you can’t criticize) to perpetrate the subjugation of white nations and death. To create an economic weapon to foment this rebellion over the whole world. This is happening and continues to fail. Continuing to support failed theories due to this moral ought of this kind of theoretical “knowledge”instead of what is the most real world solution that emerged organically over centuries ( Laissez-faire trading) is a snare types like this keep thrashing against as they cry out about the nazi’s.
I'm very much intrigued by this idea of excessive enjoyment. Are we all doing this? Are we all in the process of denouncing pleasure ending in the enjoyment of denounce itself? I'm troubled and afraid...
Wouldn’t that be the great joke of it? If that pleasure we so sought & suffered after happened to occur naturally (even perversely) then we’d realize we have no choice whether we experience pleasure, it happens out of our control. With that realization perhaps we can be free to allow pleasure to come and go, affect us how she pleases.
@@HollywoodUndead736 Maybe, if I understood you correctly, however, here, I think, comes into play that infamous 'free will' that we possess. Can we ever be spontaneous in the sense that you describe as naturally going with the flow (the ebb and tide of pleasure). What I learned is that we are far from spontaneous or harmonious with our surroundings...
Oh, now I realize the chorus of gawkers and hateful critique in my head as I waste away barely taking care of myself anymore is not external and the self deprecation is taken with great pain and humiliation… I’m almost compelled to stop it.
clear example of how necessary talk of the worst horrors is: the remnants of these ideological events remain in the culture (through both the ball crushers and steve bannon)
It comes from Jacques Lacan, who was a contemporary of Bataille. I'm not sure if there was any connection between the two, I've read "The Accursed Share" and some of Lacan's seminars but I am not an expert on either.
They are pretty inextricably linked, Bataille heavily influenced Lacan's work though he did not publicly avow it. He even married his wife Sylvia, adopted his daughter and moved into his apartment, giving lectures there for a few years.
Isnt it like widely accepted in the kink community that like -the psyche turning something horrible and grim into something pleasurable is a way of dealing with and processing the horribleness of life? In a way, making the best of i.
I'm not being a smart ass but enjoyment is very possible on drugs, not that this is a sustainable lifestyle and the enjoyment definitely lessens with time. But for quite a while you will have enjoyment. Enjoyment lessens with age and the more competent you become in life.
I think enjoyment and indulgence are often being confused with each other. I think indulgence is, or can be, excessive, because one could be seeking or experiencing it to get away from some real life problem/s or issues, whereas those issues or problems won’t necessarily disappear by seeking indulgence. I think enjoyment is at least potentially different from indulgence because indulgence can be counterproductive and bring more unwanted suffering whatsoever. But enjoyment can be multifaceted, in that enjoyment doesn’t have to be excessive, and can very well be experienced in small things, from a simple leisure time without any excessive activity or experience, to having a dish or drink one enjoys, to going to the toilet and relaxing while doing business, to lying down and relaxing etc. We need to recharge and get rid of stress that we feel or know that is hurting us and taking a toll on us. Sadly, most of us are not psychopaths that don’t suffer. Most of us need recharging, communication and support, which I personally hate. I myself wish I was born a psychopath or at least lacked empathy, so that I wouldn’t suffer. All that is not to suggest that I wish I were some evil, corrupt, criminal kind. What I’m saying is that I wish I just lacked redundant, excessive empathy, such as caring what other people would do or think or say etc. Needless to say, it would be the worst thing to be born a corrupt, tyrannical, despotic, criminal kind. I’m happy I’m not that way but unhappy I don’t lack redundant, excess, counterproductive empathy and care about others’ thoughts or actions etc. I’ve been trying to outgrow and overcome the habit of assuming what others would or will feel, do or say.
At the University of Oslo, there was a guest lecturer who looked and spoke a lot like this professor, but he was talking about Chinese culture. Could it have been him?
Thank you Slavoj, I found that many of the content providers who've supplied me with documentation I cite in my own work have been compromised. Access may become difficult to obtain due to the compromise of an email address, or a history of prior publication.
Can someone explain what Zizek means by saying Bannon claiming he is a Leninist, whether it is a mask or not, engenders surplus enjoyment? I thought I understood what he was saying, until that line.
I think he says it doesn't matter if you believe it's a leninist mask that bannon takes up or not. As in his inspiration for his ideology doesn't matter. His actions depict surplus enjoyment which as he explains surmounts the basic or common decency of accepting the constitution with a sense of duty.
Someone who prohibits themselves to enjoy only to enjoy the rituals of prohibition is exactly the kind of perverse thought that only zizek can imagine. 😂😂😂
Let's assume that someday you realize that happiness and pleasure are antagonistic. And yet that you refuse to let go of your pain which is the bedrock of the pleasure that you can experience. On the one hand you will know that pleasure is not compatible with happiness and you will deny yourself it. On the other hand you will not allow the relinquishment of pain (the healing) to occur, which means that your pain will still seek to find a release through the experience of pleasure in your experience. However since you'll have banned pleasure (and for good reasons, based on the proper discernment that happiness and pleasure are fundamentally incompatible), the only thing that you will be able to resort to is the prohibition of pleasure. And this is the only thing that you'll value now, the only thing that you'll fight for. You will gain a sense of power from your own inner coercitive system. You will resist both pain and pleasure. You will resist pain because you will resist healing. You will resist pleasure because you want happiness. And that will be the gridlock of your mind that will send you straight down to hell. I know. I have been there.
These sorts of premises will be looked down in history as examples of the psychological impact of social isolation. Find friends and laugh a little. Stop doing heroin lol
@@alpha0xide9 what is the alternative to ideology tho, complete randomness of decision making? aren't we all in some sort of ideology? im not arguing, im just trying to make sense of this and im a little bit dumb and a lot bit uneducated about the subject.
there is a biological basis for what he is saying: large releases of dynorphins is accompanied by an increase in receptors for (and increased sensitivity to) endorphins - natural opioids...pain is almost always followed by pleasure; at least, when it occurs, it increases the capacity for pleasure
@@OblivionZXZ yes, but because this is my perverse enjoyment, I will wax on. I wonder if mentioning minimalism is viewing it through a lens of only consumerism. His point for minimalism, I think, would be the question "What enjoyment do you derive in your abstinence of materialism? Do you enjoy it because it is a struggle that you can showcase to others? Is it a genuine enjoyment of some task you wish to perform (for example, writing novels)? If you are the former, you have not left the ideology and have just changed enjoyment from desire-fulfillment for "surplus enjoyment" (as defined by Lacan). If you are the latter, are you still a minimalist or are you a novelist? The difficulty is that even when you are a novelist, your libido/ego/whatever-that-is will still have desires outside of these novels. This is where Zizek often ends, orbiting around paradoxes. However, while the practical utility is open to criticism, many people assert that he has no point. His point is that these things are not simple, but they are not simple in specific ways.
For anyone who is confused, Slavoj is saying that there is a kind of enjoyment had in the renunciation of enjoyment, in that it strives towards something else which is enjoyable even though the act itself is not, such as the renunciation of ethics in a brutal unenjoyable act to achieve the higher goal, such as a new state, orgasm, so on. I do however disagree with his point that ballcrushing isnt pathological. Its (edit: cross out 'definitely', added 'often') *often* a sign of a deeper pathetic selfhatred, you see men who like CBT or pegging or whatever and they very often selfhate or engage in other pathetic selfhating behaviors to achieve the ethical "surplus enjoyment" that self-deprecation often fulfills
" Its definitely a sign of a deeper pathetic selfhatred" You shouldn't be making "definite" claims or "definite" statements when what you're actually doing, is guessing. You're talking a conservative mindset and trying to apply it to a real philosophy regarding human enjoyment; which it doesn't. You're framing any action your ideology views as "deplorable" and saying it must relate to self-hatred. You haven't proven that claim and in fact there is no proof to that claim; as it's not a valid claim. Fetishization does have various roots, but you're massively overstating the impact of one particular potential underlying factor.
it's a bit unfair to have some grand swathing statement of the population , i mean yes there is trouble when self hatred breeds your sexual expression, but doesn't sexual liberty also breed that same result? in a word where men and women are permitted to engage in their pleasures consensually and lovingly, there can be no hatred. neither in one's self, nor the other. some guys, for example, just like to be pegged. simple as :)
@DontKillFriends I guess it's an overstatement, but it reflects social conditions that lead people to seek self-humiliation as part of their sexual identity. Why should we preserve it? Defending it as 'legitimate unpathological sexual practice' is just doubling down on the fetish to alleviate the symptom (not that I'm saying you're defending it as such). Legitimacy is just a made-up term, and pathology depends on the viewpoint; my point is that self-humiliation is almost always a symptom of deeper issues relating to how one sees oneself, and if those issues are actually dealt with at their root (through the death of capital, hierarchy, so on, and birth of a healthier society that doesn't rely on fear, ostracization and self-humiliation to perpetuate itself), then the practice itself should be rendered obsolete. I guess I was somewhat exaggerating, but hyperbole is needed to get the point across. Edit: and CBT and others are often part of if not borne of toxic relationships with horrific power imbalances, regardless of 'consent' or 'mutual enjoyment', both of which are not mutually inclusive with 'health' or 'good'
@@percivalyracanth1528 "Why should we preserve it?" Exactly what I was thinking. People can have their kinks and fetishes, but at some point we have to call it out for what it is. Light hearted self-deprecation is normal in social circles (as to show that one doesn't take themselves to seriously), but self-humiliation evidently isn't healthy. I'm starting to fear that people are losing their ability to see what is healthy human behaviour and what is depraved or perversed.
10:22 LOL Bingo! I was waiting for Zizek to be able to fit some emerging and peripheral country into his bizarre little story. Obviously, my first guess was Russia followed by China, India and Iran. Congratulations, you managed to secure your salary, Zizek.
I clicked the link to the full video, and then after watching for sometime they want you to click another link, to the payment for a subscription... Cmon, you could be more upfront about it, kinda bm.
School, college and all education industrial complex made you love him - you are not special. You behave the way System wants you to behave. Your love and admiration is systemic
How do you discuss and debate the status quo of politics nowadays without taking into consideration THE REAL POLICY MAKERS AND BENEFICIARIES..... Vanguard and BlackRock.....?
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The silent majority ( at least eighty percent of any population ) need either religion, or a definite sense of tradition. Tradition usually in the form of nation-state identity and rituals. Humans coalesce well in homogenous groups. It eases anxiety within the herd. The Arabs understood this, when they invented the Muslim faith. It allows diverse ethic and societal groups to have one consolidating purpose. Westerners will say to Muslim women… but you’re maltreated, you’re second class citizens. And the women will reply… My life is the same as my mothers, and my mothers mother. It is free of any anxiety, I know what to expect and what is expected of me. My life is ordered and free of apprehension and unease. You cannot understand how vital and life affirming this is to me. The West only has greed as a unifying factor. Greed covered by a gossamer thin charade of their quasi-hellenistic cult. That packages their corrupt system as benign and even… ‘sanctimoniously’ vitally important to humanity. People in the West still believe their politics is real. That it’s a fully working and free system of governance. Yet no nation-state within the American Empire can elect a true left or rightwing party. It isn’t allowed. The leaders would be immediately rounded up and imprisoned. You can only vote vanilla. Always two sides of the same political coin. The West is permanently in stasis… permanently stagnant. Because the entrepreneurial class and the large investment companies prefer 'their world' just the way it is. You cannot change the West. The US spends eight hundred and seventy billion a year on its military. In order to solidify their dominance permanently. That’s why all tradition and religion in the West have been carefully demoted and demolished. There is no unifying system to form any kind of a threat to their dystopia. You’re locked in tight, not too dissimilar from a prison.
Id rather be thinking with my own brain than succumbing to someone else rules. Accepting religion and tradition is for the mediocre, the true masters think for themselves.
@@josemarialaguingethe rugged individualism you refer to is in many ways a moral aspiration. But you’ve missed the fact that you’re still chained. Additionally - being independent provides its own chaos and insecurity. The freedom of movement (or sense of) carries with it the agitation of where to go. I think that’s what OP is trying to say. You look at someone else and say - I don’t want to be you. What do you think they see from the other perspective?
Enjoyment is impossible, and yet we cannot get rid of it. Do you agree?
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😂😂😂 You’re talking about Democrats in today’s 3rd Reich context. 😂😂😂
@@user-zq4fv8sj6v may have went over your head...😇
How interesting!+
Bloody hell. That freakish link.wants money for what I can get on RUclips for free
Bore
Deep down almost everyone has a probably subconscious sense of infant/toddler sense of security from being controlled and even opressed. Some more than others find it brings back conforts of childhood. Where you give up having to look after yourself to return to that childhood bliss of security.
Zizek really loves talking about his descent down the rabbit hole of investigating ball crushers
it's a rabbit hole that keeps repeating the same historical tropes, that of western theology.
the disgusting snivelling hack doesnt even know the difference between congress and the capitol...
claims bannon is like lenin...
claims the right wanted to overhaul the constitution when its COMPLETELY proven that is what the left both wants, and ACTIVELY did in breaking it in many states over the 2020 election, which provenly changed the course of the election...
this guy is beyond a fraud@@carlosgaspar8447
@@carlosgaspar8447 Speak for Western esotericism
@@carlosgaspar8447 Ball-crushing is part of it? 🤔
Zizek loves money.
Finally, Žižek’s take on Cock and Ball Torture
“What we get in exchange for our obedience and renunciation is a perverted pleasure in renunciation itself, in loss itself…”
that quote alone is such a head crusher of a thought... i feel blessed
@@anjie-8560 a ball crusher if you will
😆🤣@@jadenwaz9585
What? English please.
Right as he said it I saw the comment lol
It's 2:10 AM and I'm listening to Slavoj Zizek tell the story of how he discovered CBT. Life's at least interesting sometimes.
When I read you saw this at 2:10 i looked at my own clock and it was 2:11 i almost got scared :p
@@John-rk2bl You know what's really scary? Rereading this comment from over a month ago I genuinely don't remember which kind of CBT Slavoj was talking about in this video.
Edit: it was the sexy kind 👠🥜
At first I thought you meant cognitive behavioral therapy, but then it clicked; now I can’t choose which one is funnier.
4:49 AM....
3:00 AM
The philosopher of our time opens up talking about industrial strength ball crushers. That’s a true heavyweight.
I love how he’s saying things that are batshit crazy, deeply logical, and casually poetic. It makes me want to run down the street naked.
😂😂
deeply logical 🤣
logic is only tautologically deep. I hear he solves complex categorical problems in his free time, fully clothed.
The court jester of capitalism aligning ever more closely with Klaus Schwab. Marxism-Leninism is the only answer and this troll's only function within society is to mislead people interested in leftist philosophy with his ramblings. The problem is that he's entertaining to listen to even though he has little of substance to say.
@@joaor3357 you think they are not?
Wildest intro ever.
Right!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭😭🪬🪬🪬🪬
Lol! I feel the same!
I like it how he often cross-language-refers objectively and to the point.
Zizek is teaching me to get enjoyment from doing bad things.
His point is that enjoyment in itself is "bad" (from our point of view). There's no innocent pleasure, bc pleasure exists in relation and in opposition to what we identify as just and good. There is no original and autenthic call of the flesh, pleasure isn't a natural property of our organs. It's artificially engendered in opposition to something else (namely, the lacanian symbolic order).
A person does a perfectly innocent google search, for science, and ends up in a strange land. Perfectly innocent :)
Enough is a Feast 😇
A minute in and I'm hooked
Zizek's point about the ethical tempation in doing the right thing reminds me of Kierkergaard's leap of faith in "Fear and Trembling". There, he suggests that by all ethical and universal standards, Abraham did the wrong thing to attempt to kill his son Issac, but he was acting under the "teleological suspension of the ethical"in the realm of the religious. I always found this line of reasoning very seductive but very problematic, and I guess Zizek would agree(?), given that Goebbels made essentially the same point to encourage the genocide of the Jewish population.
theology thinks that theological ethics is compatible with philosophical ethics - when we disregard this singular incident. but I think it is too much to over come to make christianity at all appealing (in addition to the fact that Jesus was publicly murdered and yet the Christians redeem themselves and suppose Jesus to redeem themselves) or is the Jesus pain such surplus enjoyment as cock and ball torture, that for this reason he says whatever the Christians want to hear to calm their conscience?
I think that was his point. That justifying your horrific actions with a "higher moral purpose" is just bullshit
@@julioignacio8124 True, the only justification for "horrific actions" is if it prevents more horrific actions down the line. Nazis shooting innocent people = bad. Shooting nazis = good.
Whoever wrote the O.T. books needed for a God to account for Good, so that human imperfection and vulnerability to Evil was emphasized and sanctioned. Later, with the emergence of the Christ, that imperfection and vulnerability to Evil was actualized to be now celebrated. That seems to be at the core of the ideology.
Kierkegaard's point is completely different than the one made here.
The ball crusher reminds me of Mt Everest. People pay for the problem. I fortunately got a spinal cord injury that left me paralyzed from the chest down for life for free!
I'm forever thankful for when I had the first psychotic meltdown and finally knew for sure that my art is real.
Double it and give it to the next person
Never sit front row at a Zizek speech.
Free Ponchos for the front row.
Hilllaariousss! So original....insert totally original cocaine joke and so on and so on
@@chrisreid5272 Zizek would laugh, why can't you.
@@Matt-zk8qh it's not that I don't have a sense of humor. But some form of your comment is literally every second comment on a zizek video...
@@chrisreid5272 ok yeah, that's actually fair enough tbh
"“Knowledge for its own sake” - this is the final snare morality has laid; with it, we become completely entangled in morals" always comes to mind while
Listening to zizek.
When I read the title “Surplus Happiness” the vision of Hitler at the microphone speaking to his enthralled minions, with Ode to Joy playing in the background came to my mind. Guess I’ll have to watch it. He’s always full of surprises.
the disgusting snivelling hack doesnt even know the difference between congress and the capitol...
claims bannon is like lenin...
claims the right wanted to overhaul the constitution when its COMPLETELY proven that is what the left both wants, and ACTIVELY did in breaking it in many states over the 2020 election, which provenly changed the course of the election...
this guy is beyond a fraud
@henrywolf5332
whats that quote
@@williamtsanders Nietzsche Said it, the meaning is that knowledge is sought with interests that lead to oughts or support our presupposed outcome, or at the very least knowledge for knowledge sake as a value is an ought. Zizek is still a communist who admits communism was a total failure. This failure in part is that it is economic/political theory that inverts the oughts gathered from Marx’s untenable theory written by and for a certain group(the only group you can’t criticize) to perpetrate the subjugation of white nations and death. To create an economic weapon to foment this rebellion over the whole world. This is happening and continues to fail.
Continuing to support failed theories due to this moral ought of this kind of theoretical “knowledge”instead of what is the most real world solution that emerged organically over centuries ( Laissez-faire trading) is a snare types like this keep thrashing against as they cry out about the nazi’s.
@@henrywolf5332 pseud
If Žižek is talking about ball crushers, and then suddenly says "Now comes my trick," it's time to run.
I'm very much intrigued by this idea of excessive enjoyment. Are we all doing this? Are we all in the process of denouncing pleasure ending in the enjoyment of denounce itself? I'm troubled and afraid...
Wouldn’t that be the great joke of it? If that pleasure we so sought & suffered after happened to occur naturally (even perversely) then we’d realize we have no choice whether we experience pleasure, it happens out of our control. With that realization perhaps we can be free to allow pleasure to come and go, affect us how she pleases.
@@HollywoodUndead736 Maybe, if I understood you correctly, however, here, I think, comes into play that infamous 'free will' that we possess. Can we ever be spontaneous in the sense that you describe as naturally going with the flow (the ebb and tide of pleasure). What I learned is that we are far from spontaneous or harmonious with our surroundings...
Agreed. The beautiful thing about seeking enjoyment is the activity rarely meets your expectations. I.e.the $3000 watch I never wear.
Oh, now I realize the chorus of gawkers and hateful critique in my head as I waste away barely taking care of myself anymore is not external and the self deprecation is taken with great pain and humiliation… I’m almost compelled to stop it.
Burn it all down and rebuild from the ashes... because it feels so good.
clear example of how necessary talk of the worst horrors is: the remnants of these ideological events remain in the culture (through both the ball crushers and steve bannon)
This sounds like George Bataille’s theory of excess like a century earlier.
It comes from Jacques Lacan, who was a contemporary of Bataille. I'm not sure if there was any connection between the two, I've read "The Accursed Share" and some of Lacan's seminars but I am not an expert on either.
They are pretty inextricably linked, Bataille heavily influenced Lacan's work though he did not publicly avow it. He even married his wife Sylvia, adopted his daughter and moved into his apartment, giving lectures there for a few years.
Isnt it like widely accepted in the kink community that like -the psyche turning something horrible and grim into something pleasurable is a way of dealing with and processing the horribleness of life? In a way, making the best of i.
It turns out psychoanalysis is closer to kink culture than we thought
Ah yes, the "kink community."
Who knew that there could be a cohesive and clear authority on kinks?
legendary
Zizek: Now.. Now comes my trick
But wait a minute - wasn't this all staged?
@@dominik13579it doesn't matter
He looks better now than 10 years ago
Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To have this talk as not free is absolutely filthy...
Yup:( I'm so sad
@@michelepellegrino6640 for real. i had to pay $10 :(
After winning wars theres always excess stuff that must be destroyed
Finally. I was scared he'd never talk about ball-crushers
This would be even more awesome if devo were playing a concert behind him.
So funny and clever!!
Pain comes as a light to the eyes.
Do you mean as fundamental baseline of how we construct our existence
Does the first row get raincoats?
No - they get ballcrushers
Even better.
I love Zlavoj
What's the Judith Butler piece he's referring to?
I'm not being a smart ass but enjoyment is very possible on drugs, not that this is a sustainable lifestyle and the enjoyment definitely lessens with time. But for quite a while you will have enjoyment. Enjoyment lessens with age and the more competent you become in life.
Tell me i was shopping for ball torture device without telling me i was shopping for a ball torture device
This is great ty
I think enjoyment and indulgence are often being confused with each other. I think indulgence is, or can be, excessive, because one could be seeking or experiencing it to get away from some real life problem/s or issues, whereas those issues or problems won’t necessarily disappear by seeking indulgence. I think enjoyment is at least potentially different from indulgence because indulgence can be counterproductive and bring more unwanted suffering whatsoever. But enjoyment can be multifaceted, in that enjoyment doesn’t have to be excessive, and can very well be experienced in small things, from a simple leisure time without any excessive activity or experience, to having a dish or drink one enjoys, to going to the toilet and relaxing while doing business, to lying down and relaxing etc.
We need to recharge and get rid of stress that we feel or know that is hurting us and taking a toll on us. Sadly, most of us are not psychopaths that don’t suffer. Most of us need recharging, communication and support, which I personally hate. I myself wish I was born a psychopath or at least lacked empathy, so that I wouldn’t suffer. All that is not to suggest that I wish I were some evil, corrupt, criminal kind. What I’m saying is that I wish I just lacked redundant, excessive empathy, such as caring what other people would do or think or say etc. Needless to say, it would be the worst thing to be born a corrupt, tyrannical, despotic, criminal kind. I’m happy I’m not that way but unhappy I don’t lack redundant, excess, counterproductive empathy and care about others’ thoughts or actions etc. I’ve been trying to outgrow and overcome the habit of assuming what others would or will feel, do or say.
I watched this with my hand over my crotch.
At the University of Oslo, there was a guest lecturer who looked and spoke a lot like this professor, but he was talking about Chinese culture. Could it have been him?
Zizek should critique the anime Hellsing Ultimate.
Thank you Slavoj, I found that many of the content providers who've supplied me with documentation I cite in my own work have been compromised. Access may become difficult to obtain due to the compromise of an email address, or a history of prior publication.
Where is the second part ?
Can someone explain what Zizek means by saying Bannon claiming he is a Leninist, whether it is a mask or not, engenders surplus enjoyment? I thought I understood what he was saying, until that line.
I think he says it doesn't matter if you believe it's a leninist mask that bannon takes up or not. As in his inspiration for his ideology doesn't matter. His actions depict surplus enjoyment which as he explains surmounts the basic or common decency of accepting the constitution with a sense of duty.
RUclips would be hugely better if it allowed text string blacklisting
Someone who prohibits themselves to enjoy only to enjoy the rituals of prohibition is exactly the kind of perverse thought that only zizek can imagine. 😂😂😂
Let's assume that someday you realize that happiness and pleasure are antagonistic. And yet that you refuse to let go of your pain which is the bedrock of the pleasure that you can experience. On the one hand you will know that pleasure is not compatible with happiness and you will deny yourself it. On the other hand you will not allow the relinquishment of pain (the healing) to occur, which means that your pain will still seek to find a release through the experience of pleasure in your experience. However since you'll have banned pleasure (and for good reasons, based on the proper discernment that happiness and pleasure are fundamentally incompatible), the only thing that you will be able to resort to is the prohibition of pleasure. And this is the only thing that you'll value now, the only thing that you'll fight for. You will gain a sense of power from your own inner coercitive system. You will resist both pain and pleasure. You will resist pain because you will resist healing. You will resist pleasure because you want happiness. And that will be the gridlock of your mind that will send you straight down to hell.
I know.
I have been there.
These sorts of premises will be looked down in history as examples of the psychological impact of social isolation.
Find friends and laugh a little. Stop doing heroin lol
He's actually paraphrasing Jacques Lacan's idea of surplus enjoyment, or pleasure (adapted from Marx's theory of surplus value)
@@juliasmith4708 that’s what he explicitly said yeah
Which premise? The pleasure accompanied by renunciation? @@marcag9810
The problem is that people confuse pleasure with happiness.
What's the difference?
People or Zizek specifically?
This escalated quickly...
If there was an overall point to this, I'm afraid it was lost on me.
Not that complex really. It is another take on his critique of the dangers of ideology
@@alpha0xide9 what is the alternative to ideology tho, complete randomness of decision making? aren't we all in some sort of ideology? im not arguing, im just trying to make sense of this and im a little bit dumb and a lot bit uneducated about the subject.
@@Tobias.Harris I'd say it's constant learning and in a constant battle to be free from ideology.
@@Tobias.Harris Logic... have not heard of it?
@@josemarialaguinge ideology is inescapable
look at the prevalence of intermenient fasting among rich people
Challenge: Slavoj Zizek only uses explanations and metaphores with plants.
there is a biological basis for what he is saying: large releases of dynorphins is accompanied by an increase in receptors for (and increased sensitivity to) endorphins - natural opioids...pain is almost always followed by pleasure; at least, when it occurs, it increases the capacity for pleasure
Nice 👍 iai, you can do it when you want😊
I like his ideas but the way he speaks exhausts me.
6:41 💡
reading the comments is really depressing and makes me lose the faith in humanity unironically
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Sure, he stumbled upon hardcore bdsm while looking for historical reference, no doubt thats how it went
*nasal beatboxing intensifies*
My God. You are crazy
Amazing how we can go on for minutes without anything coherent or any content at all
What's his point?
Anyone...
Be aware of what you enjoy, what you don't, and most importantly, what you enjoy disliking and repressing
Like minimalist becoming addict to minimalism.
@@OblivionZXZ yes, but because this is my perverse enjoyment, I will wax on. I wonder if mentioning minimalism is viewing it through a lens of only consumerism. His point for minimalism, I think, would be the question "What enjoyment do you derive in your abstinence of materialism? Do you enjoy it because it is a struggle that you can showcase to others? Is it a genuine enjoyment of some task you wish to perform (for example, writing novels)? If you are the former, you have not left the ideology and have just changed enjoyment from desire-fulfillment for "surplus enjoyment" (as defined by Lacan). If you are the latter, are you still a minimalist or are you a novelist? The difficulty is that even when you are a novelist, your libido/ego/whatever-that-is will still have desires outside of these novels.
This is where Zizek often ends, orbiting around paradoxes. However, while the practical utility is open to criticism, many people assert that he has no point. His point is that these things are not simple, but they are not simple in specific ways.
You gotta listen to this one on psychedelics. You’ll die laughing.
For anyone who is confused, Slavoj is saying that there is a kind of enjoyment had in the renunciation of enjoyment, in that it strives towards something else which is enjoyable even though the act itself is not, such as the renunciation of ethics in a brutal unenjoyable act to achieve the higher goal, such as a new state, orgasm, so on.
I do however disagree with his point that ballcrushing isnt pathological. Its (edit: cross out 'definitely', added 'often') *often* a sign of a deeper pathetic selfhatred, you see men who like CBT or pegging or whatever and they very often selfhate or engage in other pathetic selfhating behaviors to achieve the ethical "surplus enjoyment" that self-deprecation often fulfills
" Its definitely a sign of a deeper pathetic selfhatred"
You shouldn't be making "definite" claims or "definite" statements when what you're actually doing, is guessing. You're talking a conservative mindset and trying to apply it to a real philosophy regarding human enjoyment; which it doesn't. You're framing any action your ideology views as "deplorable" and saying it must relate to self-hatred. You haven't proven that claim and in fact there is no proof to that claim; as it's not a valid claim. Fetishization does have various roots, but you're massively overstating the impact of one particular potential underlying factor.
it's a bit unfair to have some grand swathing statement of the population , i mean yes there is trouble when self hatred breeds your sexual expression, but doesn't sexual liberty also breed that same result? in a word where men and women are permitted to engage in their pleasures consensually and lovingly, there can be no hatred. neither in one's self, nor the other. some guys, for example, just like to be pegged. simple as :)
@DontKillFriends I guess it's an overstatement, but it reflects social conditions that lead people to seek self-humiliation as part of their sexual identity. Why should we preserve it? Defending it as 'legitimate unpathological sexual practice' is just doubling down on the fetish to alleviate the symptom (not that I'm saying you're defending it as such). Legitimacy is just a made-up term, and pathology depends on the viewpoint; my point is that self-humiliation is almost always a symptom of deeper issues relating to how one sees oneself, and if those issues are actually dealt with at their root (through the death of capital, hierarchy, so on, and birth of a healthier society that doesn't rely on fear, ostracization and self-humiliation to perpetuate itself), then the practice itself should be rendered obsolete.
I guess I was somewhat exaggerating, but hyperbole is needed to get the point across.
Edit: and CBT and others are often part of if not borne of toxic relationships with horrific power imbalances, regardless of 'consent' or 'mutual enjoyment', both of which are not mutually inclusive with 'health' or 'good'
@@percivalyracanth1528 "Why should we preserve it?" Exactly what I was thinking. People can have their kinks and fetishes, but at some point we have to call it out for what it is. Light hearted self-deprecation is normal in social circles (as to show that one doesn't take themselves to seriously), but self-humiliation evidently isn't healthy. I'm starting to fear that people are losing their ability to see what is healthy human behaviour and what is depraved or perversed.
@@percivalyracanth1528 sounds like projection. stop caring what others are consenting to in the bedroom, you weirdo
We burn it and start again
11:01 Salvoj.exe has crashed
Amen
Sex can't exist without orgasm and it is bliss as well as virtue.
the denial of orgasm is the ecstasy for some
Yes sex is virtue no need to be disgusted by it in the slightest as long as done properly in an intimate setting.
"To get the data"
10:22 LOL Bingo!
I was waiting for Zizek to be able to fit some emerging and peripheral country into his bizarre little story. Obviously, my first guess was Russia followed by China, India and Iran. Congratulations, you managed to secure your salary, Zizek.
plus de or plus de are pronounced different Zizek
I clicked the link to the full video, and then after watching for sometime they want you to click another link, to the payment for a subscription... Cmon, you could be more upfront about it, kinda bm.
The thumbnail probably shows Slavoj enjoying an angina 😅
He and Chomsky lost all their reputations in the last 3-4 years, weren't they?
Just to ruin the fun, you should know that IAI are the famous initials of Israeli Air Industries...
Why is everyone laughing? Are they psychopaths?
Probably.
I love psychopaths.
School, college and all education industrial complex made you love him - you are not special. You behave the way System wants you to behave. Your love and admiration is systemic
Ballsack grande.
Jouissance from his learning of Lacanian psychoanalysis no?
How do you discuss and debate the status quo of politics nowadays without taking into consideration THE REAL POLICY MAKERS AND BENEFICIARIES..... Vanguard and BlackRock.....?
And even Vanguard and Blackrock are just puppets for the few people who mainly benefit from those corporations.
I, eh...preeeFER to, sniff, NOT. (Slurp)
So this is an argument for liberal constitutionality given the equivalence of the extremism (on either side of the middle way) in politics.
Good observation. He loves to pretend to be a "conservative communist" but when anything veers away from the abstract He always falls in the middle.
@@gwillsthewizardyep this part is true
@@gwillsthewizardBecause he is a philosopher first and foremost
@@alpha0xide9 So an idiot. Got it.
"SSTHPLSTHSTLPSTHHSLLPSTLST. .. . "SHTHSTLP HTS STHSTPLTHE" SSTHTHHHHHHHHH" - zizek
Yes. But he makes us think, and think deeper, and think clearer, than anyone else.
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i never laughed so hard at something that should be taken seriously ...
Did we watch the same thing?
Humor helps
Is this philosophy or comedy? Sure, the two are related, but still. What intention blew life into this discourse?
To stop u from thinking along repetitive narratives.
Has it worked ?
I simply went to google or whatever...
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00:29 🌍 The left needs to acknowledge that the 20th-century organizational principles no longer apply to today's problems, including state socialism and social democracy.
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03:05 🌡️ Urgent global issues, such as climate change, require large-scale actions beyond the capabilities of the market.
05:20 🇨🇳 China's authoritarian approach can address some ecological problems but also leads to unforeseen ecological and social catastrophes.
08:03 🌹 The future could be socialist or communist in response to the failures of social democracy, emphasizing real social freedom.
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12:27 ♻️ Lifestyle ecology often functions as a mechanism to make individuals feel guilty while avoiding real systemic change.
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He sounds fun 🙄
First
Who gave Daffy Duck here permission to speak English?
Subtitles.
The silent majority ( at least eighty percent of any population ) need either religion,
or a definite sense of tradition. Tradition usually in the form of nation-state identity and rituals.
Humans coalesce well in homogenous groups. It eases anxiety within the herd.
The Arabs understood this, when they invented the Muslim faith.
It allows diverse ethic and societal groups to have one consolidating purpose.
Westerners will say to Muslim women… but you’re maltreated, you’re second class citizens.
And the women will reply… My life is the same as my mothers, and my mothers mother.
It is free of any anxiety, I know what to expect and what is expected of me.
My life is ordered and free of apprehension and unease.
You cannot understand how vital and life affirming this is to me.
The West only has greed as a unifying factor.
Greed covered by a gossamer thin charade of their quasi-hellenistic cult.
That packages their corrupt system as benign and even… ‘sanctimoniously’ vitally important to humanity.
People in the West still believe their politics is real. That it’s a fully working and free system of governance.
Yet no nation-state within the American Empire can elect a true left or rightwing party.
It isn’t allowed. The leaders would be immediately rounded up and imprisoned. You can only vote vanilla.
Always two sides of the same political coin. The West is permanently in stasis… permanently stagnant.
Because the entrepreneurial class and the large investment companies prefer 'their world' just the way it is.
You cannot change the West. The US spends eight hundred and seventy billion a year on its military.
In order to solidify their dominance permanently.
That’s why all tradition and religion in the West have been carefully demoted and demolished.
There is no unifying system to form any kind of a threat to their dystopia.
You’re locked in tight, not too dissimilar from a prison.
All facts.
Id rather be thinking with my own brain than succumbing to someone else rules. Accepting religion and tradition is for the mediocre, the true masters think for themselves.
@@josemarialaguingethe rugged individualism you refer to is in many ways a moral aspiration. But you’ve missed the fact that you’re still chained. Additionally - being independent provides its own chaos and insecurity. The freedom of movement (or sense of) carries with it the agitation of where to go. I think that’s what OP is trying to say. You look at someone else and say - I don’t want to be you. What do you think they see from the other perspective?
10 seconds for me.
He seems to be having more trouble getting the slurry out with all of the words in the way than usual: maybe its the reading?
Yeah, it's always hilarious when someone has a speech impairment
Ball crusher? Did you happen to see my ex wife's name on that list Slavoj?
No your not keeping the spoils of war.