How did you build that squad? Just curious. I've heard people say an "Oops! All melee!" squad kicks ass with Grimaldus, but others say you should put a mixed build with flamers.
Back in October I sold everything 40k I owned from over 10 years being in the hobby except for my built & painted terrain! ... over 22k of space marines (Dark Angels and Blood Angels) and tons of other crap. Took the money and started a brand new Black Templar collection (and banked the rest!). Absolutely love the new sculpts! Always been one of my favorite marine chapters since after getting into the hobby back in 2012. Once had 1200 points of them around 2014 but never did anything with them and eventually sold them off. So after deciding to do a very hard 40k hobby reset I decided on these guys, there really was no one else I was considering. At 6k built, based, and primed ... they're done unless something new and cool comes out in the future? I've been painting the characters and I absolutely love them and the contrasts in their paint scheme (but I still paint Blood Angels the best, lol working on that with my BT). Their model sculpts are superb! Their upgrade kit is far superior to any other upgrade kit or sprue for space marines! Their lore is right up there as one of the best, and they are a well-covered chapter from Black Library! Their primarch is Dorn, and their founding heir is Sigismund! ❤🏆 .... It's only win-win when it comes to deciding to collect and play Black Templars! Right now their rules are good but we all know that can come and go over the years lol and editions. But you cannot go wrong with going with Black Templars. Great video!
How much did you sell it for? I’ve accumulated a lot of Salamanders and am considering selling them. Not sure how much an army goes for tho? Don’t want to low ball myself.
Step 1. Buy a bunch of storrmcast that nobody wants. Step2. Hand swaps and add backpacks Step 3. Paint them black and red and white. Also works for custodes and you can skip the backpacks.
Ah, Templars. My first army I created when Indomitus came out and I started my hobby adventure. I loved them for lore reasons even before they were cool, and all we got was reroll advance + charge and a mortal FNP. How times have changed
Picked up the Combat Patrol and Black Templars Army Set (still easily purchased in the USA for around $170) a few weeks ago from my FLGS. I appreciate the final tips for filling out a 2000 point army. Once I get all of this table ready I'll have to look into the options you suggested.
Just wanted to add as a BT player, the Greytide Studio stuff is SO choice. I don't regret picking the Eternal Pilgrims pack for a second. My BT are sexy as hell. Also, my bud has their Space Wolves pack. I can't comment on it directly as I don't play them and my bud hasn't finished putting everything together, but it looks pretty slick too!
The greytide Eternal Crusaders set is clutch. Im fairly certain that every one of my Sword Bretheren/Squad leaders has at least one bit. 10/10 best investment if you want your templars to really stand out
@@Spongemonkey26they have more uniqueness to them, makes sense. We dont need all space marine chapters with unique units and that much attention WHEN other main factions are bleeding out. Emperor Children, Aeldari, Dark Eldar, Votann… arguably even Nids (they left two key units with old sprues, ravagers and nid warriors).
I’ve been in this hobby since 2012, not going to happen. The divergent chapters get more attention, the Ultramarines get a decent amount for the codex compliant chapters, and the rest get crumbs.
I absolutely love the GTS stuff, I have a lot for my DA’s and they look amazing. The only issue I have with any commercially available bit kits from manufactures other than GWS/Forge World is that they are not offically legal for official GWS tournaments. Which is a shame, wish they were. I think it has to do with picture rights as GWS reserves the right to publish any pictures from their tournaments.
I run my emperor’s champion as my warlord since he is 75 points and can do some damage to characters and our HP to elite stuff. Plus I can smash in. Other things with how cheap he is
When deciding on my first army I knew I wanted to do a space marine one. I was torn between Black Templars and Dark Angels. I ultimately went with Dark Angels. There were a few reasons. But one was that I also eventually wanted to build a sisters of battle army. I felt that having two armies who thematically were the same, ie religious dogma to the extreme. Would be like putting a hat on a hat. I also felt that Sisters fit that theme a lot better than Templars do.
Black Templars in Firestorm Assault is no slouch either. The problem I’m having is deciding on what characters to put in it. With the points changes for Helbrecht, Grimaldus, Inceptors, Aggressors and Scouts it’s been a chore.
Grimaldus might be the “best” pick considering he does well with crusader squads and you can get flamers in that unit for some dev wounds and all the guns will get a strength up. Not to mention Helbrect abilities are a bit wasted in a detachment that does not rely on hit roll. Just my two cents.
With the knowledge that I can soon bring Deathwatch kill teams with my templars I have some cool ideas for sure to diversify while meeting my head canon standards
I'd guess either Horus Heresy vehicle kits or pick up a squad of Devastators and equip the actual marines in there with anything but multi meltas - you get a squad you can use and two multi meltas for your vehicles. The devastator method will probably require a bit of cutting and finesse to make the normally handheld MMs look good as a pintle mount though
The bits are excellently designed, but I would recommend against buying though only-games, their consumer service is abysmal and some of their practices are shady at best. I suggest looking at reviews before making any order there.
From what I’ve heard a straight up crusader squad swarm supported by Grimaldus and Helbrecht with Sword Brothers is a very solid option. You’d really want to get some transports with that though.
@@serikgauthier9469I still like the land raider to deliver the sword brethren with character support because of the charge after moving. Impulsor rig is a lot harder to pull off since you have to set up the threat range (can’t charge if they hop out after it moves)
Complete noob question from someone just starting out: The bits and pieces you can buy for the models, especially weapons and armor, do they change the units abilitys? For example sword vs hammer/fist, or a shield in the offhand meaning more hitpoints? And are they rule compliant even tho its not official?
Sadly the regular Marine CP is a complete trap for BT players. The Librarian is not usable AND as mentioned you get the rest for much cheaper in the smaller starter set (plus those Nids...).
I am brand new to this hobby, and I am putting together a black templar army. But I am having a hard time finding just a crusader set, all I find is a primaris crusader sets. Is the crusaders just that set without the neophytes or where could someone track down a (non primaris) crusader set?
Started an army with Orks cuz they look cool, ended up really enjoying the faction. Probably gonna start picking up Black Templars… cuz they look cool.
Ik in a previous video you talked about the leviathan box set actually kinda fitting the black Templars and wanted to ask what other units should I include to make the army more complete?
Noob question: In Auspex's example list he sticks a second sword brethren squad with no character with in the same land raider as Helbrecht and his sword brethren squad. Is there a reason he did that instead of combining them into one big squad?
No specific reason I can think of. The benefit of having two squads instead of one big one is that you can charge two different targets, and they are strong enough to do well on their own. One big squad is sometimes an overkill, on average you'll do far more damage than needed for anything that's not a Knight, so there's also that.
Remember that time a whole crusading fleet disappeared in the ghoul stars thinks will see them again interesting fact helbretch was saved by the orks which drew his attention away from the ghoul stars
Just got the Introductory Set and the Getting Started with WH40K magazine (with the marine and Nid). Would you recommend getting a Black Templars or Dark Angels (with the Dreadnought) Combat Patrol for me to get next? And which "hero" figure would be best for either ? Thanks.
Here’s a preview of what you need. Flamers, meltas, hammers, and heavy armor. Have an abundance of these and you’re one step closer to to being a sally. Bonus points if you really hate eldar.
So using add-ons that aren’t GW is legal to play with? I just dont wanna dump money into printing and little pieces that im going to have to find a way to tear off later. We have a few friendly game stores with tables but ALOT of my local warhammer stuff is at the GW store and thats where most other players hang from what ive seen
My only advice as a Black Templar player is kitbash your own Emperor's champion or highly customise it extra bits. It's a shit tier model and looks bland asf.
Things i don't have:
- Black templars
- Cash
Things i do have:
- high credit limit
- poor impulse control
You and me both, brother
Lol this cheered me up lol😂
Watching this with 4000 pts of black templars
Not quite 4000 for me but same vibe
Yeah I’m at 6,300 😂😂
same
Same
Approaching 7000 in the same boat
My 20 man primaris crusader squad led by Grimaldus just marched around the board tonight and killed anything they encountered. It was glorious!
How did you build that squad? Just curious. I've heard people say an "Oops! All melee!" squad kicks ass with Grimaldus, but others say you should put a mixed build with flamers.
Ha I do that same thing. Let me guess, with a castellan and Siggy's seal?
@@LordCrate-du8zm I went all melee. I do have one 10 man primaris crusader squad that I built with bolt rifles and the two flamers.
@@daweimer71 Alr thanks bro, now I can build my BT army!
Couldn’t have been timed better
100%
Literally just bought a bt combat patrol perfect timing
I just finished painting the one I got a few weeks ago
Back in October I sold everything 40k I owned from over 10 years being in the hobby except for my built & painted terrain! ... over 22k of space marines (Dark Angels and Blood Angels) and tons of other crap. Took the money and started a brand new Black Templar collection (and banked the rest!). Absolutely love the new sculpts! Always been one of my favorite marine chapters since after getting into the hobby back in 2012. Once had 1200 points of them around 2014 but never did anything with them and eventually sold them off. So after deciding to do a very hard 40k hobby reset I decided on these guys, there really was no one else I was considering. At 6k built, based, and primed ... they're done unless something new and cool comes out in the future? I've been painting the characters and I absolutely love them and the contrasts in their paint scheme (but I still paint Blood Angels the best, lol working on that with my BT). Their model sculpts are superb! Their upgrade kit is far superior to any other upgrade kit or sprue for space marines! Their lore is right up there as one of the best, and they are a well-covered chapter from Black Library! Their primarch is Dorn, and their founding heir is Sigismund! ❤🏆 .... It's only win-win when it comes to deciding to collect and play Black Templars! Right now their rules are good but we all know that can come and go over the years lol and editions. But you cannot go wrong with going with Black Templars. Great video!
How much did you sell it for? I’ve accumulated a lot of Salamanders and am considering selling them. Not sure how much an army goes for tho? Don’t want to low ball myself.
Step 1. Buy a bunch of storrmcast that nobody wants.
Step2. Hand swaps and add backpacks
Step 3. Paint them black and red and white.
Also works for custodes and you can skip the backpacks.
I have a boat load of stormcast that were largely given to me with no idea what to do with em. Emperor bless you, Brother.
So as someone who hasn’t selected an army yet but has been interested in starting for a while I enjoy your videos and they do help
Only been collecting black templar for a year now, but love those bits, got the dreadnought ones and love how they turned out after painting
Ah, Templars. My first army I created when Indomitus came out and I started my hobby adventure.
I loved them for lore reasons even before they were cool, and all we got was reroll advance + charge and a mortal FNP. How times have changed
I got those bits from greytide studios a while back. Absolutely awesome
He does some nice stuff. There is other stuff that is top tier on Cults too.
Picked up the Combat Patrol and Black Templars Army Set (still easily purchased in the USA for around $170) a few weeks ago from my FLGS. I appreciate the final tips for filling out a 2000 point army. Once I get all of this table ready I'll have to look into the options you suggested.
Step 1: Get SM army
Step 2: Magnetize Multi-Meltas
Step 3: Win all tournaments
Watching this while I paint my primaris Black Templar i started collected in ninth edition and need to get tabletop ready for adepticon.
Incredibly insightful video! I am looking to start playing Warhammer and decided on Black Templar. This video cleared up so many questions, thank you!
My redemptor has that armor upgrade sprue. It looks amazing in person.
Just wanted to add as a BT player, the Greytide Studio stuff is SO choice. I don't regret picking the Eternal Pilgrims pack for a second. My BT are sexy as hell.
Also, my bud has their Space Wolves pack. I can't comment on it directly as I don't play them and my bud hasn't finished putting everything together, but it looks pretty slick too!
The greytide Eternal Crusaders set is clutch. Im fairly certain that every one of my Sword Bretheren/Squad leaders has at least one bit. 10/10 best investment if you want your templars to really stand out
I just wish GW would give some of the love they give BT to some other Successors. All I ask for is an updated Pedro Kantor model…
Hell, BT get more love than most of the 1st founding chapters too.
@@Spongemonkey26they have more uniqueness to them, makes sense. We dont need all space marine chapters with unique units and that much attention WHEN other main factions are bleeding out. Emperor Children, Aeldari, Dark Eldar, Votann… arguably even Nids (they left two key units with old sprues, ravagers and nid warriors).
I’ve been in this hobby since 2012, not going to happen. The divergent chapters get more attention, the Ultramarines get a decent amount for the codex compliant chapters, and the rest get crumbs.
I absolutely love the GTS stuff, I have a lot for my DA’s and they look amazing. The only issue I have with any commercially available bit kits from manufactures other than GWS/Forge World is that they are not offically legal for official GWS tournaments. Which is a shame, wish they were. I think it has to do with picture rights as GWS reserves the right to publish any pictures from their tournaments.
Been waiting for this!!
Best space marine chapter
I run my emperor’s champion as my warlord since he is 75 points and can do some damage to characters and our HP to elite stuff. Plus I can smash in. Other things with how cheap he is
When deciding on my first army I knew I wanted to do a space marine one. I was torn between Black Templars and Dark Angels. I ultimately went with Dark Angels. There were a few reasons. But one was that I also eventually wanted to build a sisters of battle army. I felt that having two armies who thematically were the same, ie religious dogma to the extreme. Would be like putting a hat on a hat. I also felt that Sisters fit that theme a lot better than Templars do.
True, but you could always paint Sisters in red or white or metalic the other orders use.
Codex Compliant Astartes: Weak and Girlyman wimps
Black Templars: Strongest Space Marine chapter and Eternal Crusade Pilled
those 3d printed templar bits are spectacular! love that dreadnaught armor! are there primaris terminators yet?
Black Templars in Firestorm Assault is no slouch either. The problem I’m having is deciding on what characters to put in it. With the points changes for Helbrecht, Grimaldus, Inceptors, Aggressors and Scouts it’s been a chore.
Grimaldus might be the “best” pick considering he does well with crusader squads and you can get flamers in that unit for some dev wounds and all the guns will get a strength up. Not to mention Helbrect abilities are a bit wasted in a detachment that does not rely on hit roll. Just my two cents.
😂they literally upped all the points value bt players use. Except primaris crusade
With the knowledge that I can soon bring Deathwatch kill teams with my templars I have some cool ideas for sure to diversify while meeting my head canon standards
What’s the best way to get multi meltas for vehicles? $35 per melta is pretty steep. Only redeemers or the BT combat patrols get them by default.
I'd guess either Horus Heresy vehicle kits or pick up a squad of Devastators and equip the actual marines in there with anything but multi meltas - you get a squad you can use and two multi meltas for your vehicles. The devastator method will probably require a bit of cutting and finesse to make the normally handheld MMs look good as a pintle mount though
The bits are excellently designed, but I would recommend against buying though only-games, their consumer service is abysmal and some of their practices are shady at best. I suggest looking at reviews before making any order there.
PRAISE BE
I wonder if Black Templar's exclusive miniature only list is competitive? Or it should be mixed with standard space marines?
From what I’ve heard a straight up crusader squad swarm supported by Grimaldus and Helbrecht with Sword Brothers is a very solid option.
You’d really want to get some transports with that though.
@@kolosmenusLand Raider Crusader maybe?
Impulsor with PSB and character is insanely strong and PSB with helbrecht and lieutenant is instant kill everything
@@serikgauthier9469I still like the land raider to deliver the sword brethren with character support because of the charge after moving. Impulsor rig is a lot harder to pull off since you have to set up the threat range (can’t charge if they hop out after it moves)
Complete noob question from someone just starting out:
The bits and pieces you can buy for the models, especially weapons and armor, do they change the units abilitys? For example sword vs hammer/fist, or a shield in the offhand meaning more hitpoints? And are they rule compliant even tho its not official?
Sadly the regular Marine CP is a complete trap for BT players. The Librarian is not usable AND as mentioned you get the rest for much cheaper in the smaller starter set (plus those Nids...).
Shhhhh we don’t need more people to know
Too late, i already bought my first primaris crusader box
I am brand new to this hobby, and I am putting together a black templar army. But I am having a hard time finding just a crusader set, all I find is a primaris crusader sets. Is the crusaders just that set without the neophytes or where could someone track down a (non primaris) crusader set?
alternativly, archies forge has great bits as well
Just finally build some marines and this video drops
Started an army with Orks cuz they look cool, ended up really enjoying the faction. Probably gonna start picking up Black Templars… cuz they look cool.
Ha! I'm literally doing this right now
Ha! Literally doing this right now
How to start Black Templars.
Step one. Abhor the alien, the witch, the mutant..
I want to start a new templars army now. I already have one. But now I want to add some more units😂😂.
Ik in a previous video you talked about the leviathan box set actually kinda fitting the black Templars and wanted to ask what other units should I include to make the army more complete?
Noob question: In Auspex's example list he sticks a second sword brethren squad with no character with in the same land raider as Helbrecht and his sword brethren squad. Is there a reason he did that instead of combining them into one big squad?
No specific reason I can think of. The benefit of having two squads instead of one big one is that you can charge two different targets, and they are strong enough to do well on their own. One big squad is sometimes an overkill, on average you'll do far more damage than needed for anything that's not a Knight, so there's also that.
@@flameski_ Awesome, thanks for the answer!
Remember that time a whole crusading fleet disappeared in the ghoul stars thinks will see them again interesting fact helbretch was saved by the orks which drew his attention away from the ghoul stars
Just got the Introductory Set and the Getting Started with WH40K magazine (with the marine and Nid).
Would you recommend getting a Black Templars or Dark Angels (with the Dreadnought) Combat Patrol for me to get next? And which "hero" figure would be best for either ? Thanks.
The army you play is up to you, the best hero to get would be high marshall or the emoorers champion
could you do one for salamanders pls
Here’s a preview of what you need. Flamers, meltas, hammers, and heavy armor. Have an abundance of these and you’re one step closer to to being a sally. Bonus points if you really hate eldar.
Anyone got any suggestions for a beginner 1000 point list?
where do they ship from? even if they ship world wide import tax is a thing
So using add-ons that aren’t GW is legal to play with? I just dont wanna dump money into printing and little pieces that im going to have to find a way to tear off later. We have a few friendly game stores with tables but ALOT of my local warhammer stuff is at the GW store and thats where most other players hang from what ive seen
I wanna get into warhammer 40k as black templar but I am new and don't have money. why is everything so expensive? 😑
I literally just started collecting just to convert them into minotaurs
I feel like that point should be named "why not start a Black Templars Army" that would have been qay quicker. 😅
watching this with three armies 😬
Space marine horde.
spam first born crusader squads and wait for GW to send them to legends because they are better than the New Primaris.
My only advice as a Black Templar player is kitbash your own Emperor's champion or highly customise it extra bits. It's a shit tier model and looks bland asf.
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You buy a time Maschine and start them when they we're still cool.
So one second ago?
What kind of crack are you smoking? Templars have arguably been one of the better Marine chapters for a while 🤣
You think black templars are not cool?
Ah, a heretic in our midst.
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heretic!
Hey that’s funny, can you tell me what this chain sword lubricant smells like?
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