How To Get A SKRILLEX Level Mix & Master
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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15+ years of music production is also a factor of his level
There are people who have less time in who produce similar results tho
Seriously 15?? Lol I thought he produced for longer than that. I think the moment you play in that DAW is the moment you start. Not the moment you get signed.
@@AAABeatbox then in that case I have 25 years of experience!
Not really. There are producers of just 5-8 years who can produce of this caliber. Years of expertise isn't always a factor of having better experience than someone new but how well you have grasped information and learned doing it. It's not hard if you know what you're doing and can execute it well
Experience is an important factor but since it’s all in the box, new producers can accelerate timeline immensely due to less hurdles. Also, for EDM among others, there is a HUGE luck factor and a plethora of other factors that have nothing to do with making music. Do you and Party on 🎉🎉🎉
This video paired with the on that Ahee did about Skrillex's routing chains in ableton are way useful. If you're looking for more info on exactly why/how you can hit -4 LUFS, check that breakdown. Love your videos BZ!
-4 LUFS is just completely unnecessary these days.
Most of tracks on Eatbrain label are -3 to -4 Lufs
yeah doesn't anything above like -10 LUFS just get squashed anyways on streaming services
@@Danz_Partydjing tho
At least in dubstep djs like it around at least -6
U shud ev used a clipper before limiter. Cut those spikes then limit them. Because still mix isnt punchy neither hard enough.
L2 isnt working as a clipper in these settings
I've mastered things to as loud as -3 LUFS. However, going any higher than -5 is almost completely pointless these days.
please dont use true peak clipping on groups, that destroys transients!
For obtaining as insanely loud at -5 LUFS, without huge compromises - one must design the song for being loud. It begins in the sound design/selection.
Music gigachad
I’ve switched to using fab pro L2/ SIR standard clip for all actual dynamics control, and compression is more for effect/distortion/vibe. Every track has the pro L2 shaving off 3-5 db (sometimes more if it doesn’t need to be dynamic). Really tightened up my mixes and made mastering way easier.
Big Z … the man teaching us what other won’t , thanks so much king super helpful 🙏🏼
I've tried putting an L2 on my Drum/Bass/Synth busses but I get weird timings (latency?) all over the place in LPX. What am I doing wrong? Is it a Logic setting? Help..
If you guys think rumble sounds like skrillex’s best master, it’s because he didn’t master it. Luca pretolesi did. He does all of diplos masters and he did the Jack u album too. I was impressed when I found out skrillex mastered about 70% of his own album. But you can clearly tell Luca is the dude.
Something to mention, in Skrillex's Mumbai Power video you can see he's using the transparent setting on his bus limiter
How to destroy the transient of your kicks...
Solid explanation of the limiting busses. Seen a couple vids on it but this one was great
every sound in your mix sounds so nice man and they all work perfectly together
is LD Elsewhere & LD Mirage a reference to the Brooklyn concert venues?
Always incredible advice! Gonna have to buy your Serum preset pack as well 🤘🏼💛✨🎶
I hope you use ozone 😢for this technique of loudness and pick it’s very interesting but i don’t have fabfilter
Saturation can also be used to increase the perceived loudness of a sound and control the dynamics while reducing the RMS.
Essentially what he is doing with the hard limiting
Limiting doesn`t add harmonics which is why saturation adds perceived loudness.
@@Bloquednb hard limiting does, but to those reaching the set limit, meaning you don't have to add unwanted harmonics to the rest of the sound, if your goal is only to increase perceived loudness
I use BlackBox by Plugin Alliance for loudness. It's perfect
@@Hovis_Enjoyer exactly...plus if you want catching the peack(and i do almost all the time) the attack should be 0 ...
Everyone should watch the clip to zero series in conjunction with this too late if interested in loudness.
I think Luca Pretolesi master his tracks 🤔
Amazing tips as always! You are amazing, dude!🤟🤝
Hey bro, I make DnB and other electronic music. Thanks for all your tips and tricks, some of them have been very helpful to my workflow! thanks again bro!
Logic is really weak for this because the mixer is emulating the limited functionality of an analog console from the 80s with the hardcoded sends and buses and audio tracks. It's a very conservative old design and lacking modular mixing. You can do way more complex grouping stuff in something with an unrestricted generic hierarchical mixer like Reaper. You might not think you need it but it's useful for sound design. Dynamics and phase-related sound design can really make stuff groove and you need good organization and idea-locality in hierarchical mixer flow to pull it off. In something like Logic you can't even conceive of doing stuff like that since it's so limited you can't set it up without making something incomprehensible. Logic might be limiting your knowledge and growth. You should learn something like Bitwig at least.
It's even funnier when Apple still hasn't implemented 32 bit floating point in Logic, even when they *say* they've added it, as well as their limited nesting for busses (you can only have a folder within a folder). Bitwig, FL, REAPER, Cubase, Waveform, and, I am certain, many other DAWs have all done it properly by now, and there's no excuse.
"I don't want any distortion so i'm gonna back off a little bit"
*proceeds to lower volume by more than 50% 😂😂
Granted you're oversampling a lot, could you not do without the True Peak limiting on the busses?
For playing the track out in a club, you don't need True Peak on the master buss either, only there to keep the streaming platforms happy.
This was such a well made easy to understand breakdown! For people interested in learning more about the last concept I want to reference AHEE and Baphometrix. They go super in depth on Skrillex’s bus mastering technique. Thank u for the tutorial!
Could you hook me up with the links of the tutorials, please?
@@prodmonja ruclips.net/video/VdOGSh3Rmak/видео.html
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Clippers, Maximizers, Compression, Limiters and as much Oversampling you can afford (especially when rendering). That's his secret.
As Always Amazing , Thank You Big Z
if you want this 10 minute video fledged out into hundreds of hours of work, check out Baphometrix clip to zero strategy.
a lot of the things in here are what baphometric also goes through but in extreme depth, and is better than most courses about in terms of modern edm mixing/mastering
too boring, too basic technic.
Thanku so much What lookhead does in L2
Try remaking Mumbai Power. Thats an insane skrillex track
COMING BACK TO THIS VIDEO 1 YEAR AFTER AND IT STILL SO RELEVANT. THANK YOUUUUU
Composition + arraignment x good choice in voices and eq.. 👍🏻
Most mastering engineers use two limiters to get to a commercial volume as slamming it through one chokes the sound. Also things to consider are expansion which makes songs sound bigger, loud and jump out of speakers. Saturation, multiband compression, mid/side eq and compression etc. Being super loud is irrelevant nowadays but creating a punchy and bold mix is always good. Good job Big Z
I saw Mr.Bill hitting +1.5 Lufs / 0.1 true peak once and it was amazing. Never been the same since that day.
This workflow could be improved a lit by using clippers instead of limiters on the busses. Clippers are not pumpy, retain punch and saturate the transient to suppliment loss of level with wide eq bursts...
this is - by far - one of my fav. music producing channels / mixing channels on youtube.
Cant you use a clipper instead?
Hey man I was wondering can I use a soft clipper before this technique? Would that help even more 😊
im guessing you already mix down to -6 or -10 db correct before you thru it thru master buss correct ???
The only part of all this that I struggle with is what settings to use on the final limiter. I dont have Pro L2 which makes it harder. Been trying to get a result using Fruity Limiter or Maximus but can never get it anywhere near how I like it. The settings always feel wrong because I cant grasp how to properly set the attack and release settings
Honestly use LoudMaxx limiter, it’s free and is very clean and transparent sounding. It has no controls, it’s straightforward.
@@exceptionsounds6714 Downloaded it earlier its actually really good thanks!
What headphones do you recommend for mixing. I tried the buyer DT range and they are so coloured at the top end. Sent them back.
I feel stupid admitting this, but the section about keeping your drums mostly fry was game changing for me.
all solid techniques but you have to CTZ if you are in the box and don't have the luxury of a million dollar studio with expensive hardware... No way your getting to a clean 7 lufs with this alone... but you can get "comparably loud"
Dude how long have U been digging into this to get that amount of knowledge? Music studies? Some courses maybe? That's not a knowledge from some random YT tutorials.
why are you cutting at cca 18khz? you’re not gaining anything except phase problems
I thought loudness war is going to end. Why do producers care so much about the volume? I don't get it. Anybody can control volume knob or fader if they like the music. You should focus on quality instead.
You're still the LOGIC Pro and overall production GOAT!
How is it possible, that you got a soothe 2 1.5.1, and the latest version on their website is 1.3.1?!
It’s naive to think that you can achieve top class mixing and especially mastering at home,
Everything is done by professional mixing and mastering engineers in pro studios with a pro equipment
Step 1: hire GRAMMY-nominated engineer Luca Pretolesi.
whio do you think really makes skrillex's music? one ghost producer and engineer or a whole team? id go with whole team
why catching up the loudest bits, why not using a compresor way before, so you avoid having to do all this.
cant you just put hard/soft clippers instead of 16x L2s?
-5.5 rms is not that loud tho brother. Most tracks are -4-7 now on the magic ab 🙏🏻
This is heavenly good!
Do you reckon you its worth getting the fab filter plug ins?
Talent aside, working in a Northward acoustics room doesn't hurt.
guys can anyone tell me whats the difference between using a clipper more agressively on the master bus and this technique
This kind of quick instant videos u shall actually avoid… are made for clicks and won’t help u at all
Literally nothing to do with Skrillex.
Click baited.. 😅
Is there a way to see more information on your packs? For example how many sounds are in the serum pack etc.
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Man, pls release this song or send me wav/flac file, so sick :D
lol at thinking -5 LUFS is "loud" :) laughs in drum & bass
does he turn off the 1:1 on the individual track limiters ? and then feed them into master last limiter?
I don't know why, but I like your voice
Great video again, bro! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Pretty sure Skrillex doesn’t master his own tracks
Insane video, man! Hope you will keep analyzing different artists and then make video about it!
How To Get A SKRILLEX Level Mix & Master
If you didn’t have RUclips you’d have nothing.
Hello friend, all your videos are great, I have a question, at what values do you put the kick, bass, clap and hi hat in the mix? e.g. kick -6 peak bass -10 peak. thank you
..this is amazing tip..regards
Great video. Most of these tips / techniques are valuable even if you're not interested in super loud masters. BTW, standard clip allows up to 256 times oversampling. That's too much for live producing, but it's entirely ok when you print your mix/master. And, standard clip allows you to set one oversampling rate for live and a higher one for printing. And, it allows you to choose the type of brick-wall, anti-aliasing filter you want. It's a pretty great, very configurable clipper for buses and even your 2bus.
Thanks for sharing. Great help.🤗
Since when does Skrillex make Trance(?)
When are we collapsing on some content? :)
Ignore this vid and just add 222 instances of ott and soundgoodizer
Keep doing these content, you do it well
5.9 LUFs? that's not that loud though...
What’s that song at the end of your video????
So real big dumb and clipped. Gotcha 😂
Basically, make it loud without distortion
Youll never get the sound without a summing mixer
This is such a great video.
Dope
It is not the best idea to limit your drums, unless you want that pumping effect. Prefer soft clipping instead.
don't get RMS and LUFS mixed up. A decently loud master should peak at around -4.5 RMS where as in terms of LUFS you usually land at around -8
the king
Saturation+Clipping+Maximizing
This video has so many gems in it. Thank you, I never thought to do this with the limiter.
You’re a natural born teacher man, thank you for this 🙏
i don't get how the FF limiter can catch fast peaks with 10 sec attack setting you have put in the video , something seems not logical to me, to catch peaks fast the attack shouldn't be fast ??? i guess it's to avoid distortion but the is something i can't understand about it
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Great video! P.s. but alone the name Skrillex gives me nightmares, the big Dubstep destroyer…
Great videos, thank you so much man