Seriously 15?? Lol I thought he produced for longer than that. I think the moment you play in that DAW is the moment you start. Not the moment you get signed.
Not really. There are producers of just 5-8 years who can produce of this caliber. Years of expertise isn't always a factor of having better experience than someone new but how well you have grasped information and learned doing it. It's not hard if you know what you're doing and can execute it well
Experience is an important factor but since it’s all in the box, new producers can accelerate timeline immensely due to less hurdles. Also, for EDM among others, there is a HUGE luck factor and a plethora of other factors that have nothing to do with making music. Do you and Party on 🎉🎉🎉
For obtaining as insanely loud at -5 LUFS, without huge compromises - one must design the song for being loud. It begins in the sound design/selection.
It's all about mastering the song as soon as you start it. You want to edit sounds when they are pushed to their absolute limit. That's how you get the loudest sound with most clarity. Clip 2 Zero has some of this info.
I’ve switched to using fab pro L2/ SIR standard clip for all actual dynamics control, and compression is more for effect/distortion/vibe. Every track has the pro L2 shaving off 3-5 db (sometimes more if it doesn’t need to be dynamic). Really tightened up my mixes and made mastering way easier.
@@Bloquednb hard limiting does, but to those reaching the set limit, meaning you don't have to add unwanted harmonics to the rest of the sound, if your goal is only to increase perceived loudness
Wow, your knowledge and communication approach are second to none. I have been producing for ages and I learn something new today. Subbed and keep up the awesome work.
This was such a well made easy to understand breakdown! For people interested in learning more about the last concept I want to reference AHEE and Baphometrix. They go super in depth on Skrillex’s bus mastering technique. Thank u for the tutorial!
Most mastering engineers use two limiters to get to a commercial volume as slamming it through one chokes the sound. Also things to consider are expansion which makes songs sound bigger, loud and jump out of speakers. Saturation, multiband compression, mid/side eq and compression etc. Being super loud is irrelevant nowadays but creating a punchy and bold mix is always good. Good job Big Z
If you guys think rumble sounds like skrillex’s best master, it’s because he didn’t master it. Luca pretolesi did. He does all of diplos masters and he did the Jack u album too. I was impressed when I found out skrillex mastered about 70% of his own album. But you can clearly tell Luca is the dude.
Great video. Most of these tips / techniques are valuable even if you're not interested in super loud masters. BTW, standard clip allows up to 256 times oversampling. That's too much for live producing, but it's entirely ok when you print your mix/master. And, standard clip allows you to set one oversampling rate for live and a higher one for printing. And, it allows you to choose the type of brick-wall, anti-aliasing filter you want. It's a pretty great, very configurable clipper for buses and even your 2bus.
The bus comp you added back on after the group limiters will be adding back the extra dB's you gained - granted with a more even response.. You could add another agro limiter or Kclip/Standard Clip?Fire the Clip on after the comp to get those 1 or 2 dB the comp is reintroducing. Sounds really good man
Hey bro, I make DnB and other electronic music. Thanks for all your tips and tricks, some of them have been very helpful to my workflow! thanks again bro!
This video paired with the on that Ahee did about Skrillex's routing chains in ableton are way useful. If you're looking for more info on exactly why/how you can hit -4 LUFS, check that breakdown. Love your videos BZ!
Great guide dude! Limiting and Compression within the mix is such a hard concept to grapple with and you did a great break down of how to use it in a simple and easy way!
I've tried putting an L2 on my Drum/Bass/Synth busses but I get weird timings (latency?) all over the place in LPX. What am I doing wrong? Is it a Logic setting? Help..
The master chain is also missing things like a mono maker, stereo widener, passive eq and many other things that add to the master but don’t have a place in the mix so much ✨✨
This workflow could be improved a lit by using clippers instead of limiters on the busses. Clippers are not pumpy, retain punch and saturate the transient to suppliment loss of level with wide eq bursts...
You can check out my new Serum pack at bigzsounds.com - thanks for watching 🙌🏼
15+ years of music production is also a factor of his level
There are people who have less time in who produce similar results tho
Seriously 15?? Lol I thought he produced for longer than that. I think the moment you play in that DAW is the moment you start. Not the moment you get signed.
@@AAABeatbox then in that case I have 25 years of experience!
Not really. There are producers of just 5-8 years who can produce of this caliber. Years of expertise isn't always a factor of having better experience than someone new but how well you have grasped information and learned doing it. It's not hard if you know what you're doing and can execute it well
Experience is an important factor but since it’s all in the box, new producers can accelerate timeline immensely due to less hurdles. Also, for EDM among others, there is a HUGE luck factor and a plethora of other factors that have nothing to do with making music. Do you and Party on 🎉🎉🎉
For obtaining as insanely loud at -5 LUFS, without huge compromises - one must design the song for being loud. It begins in the sound design/selection.
It's all about mastering the song as soon as you start it. You want to edit sounds when they are pushed to their absolute limit. That's how you get the loudest sound with most clarity. Clip 2 Zero has some of this info.
@@matthewchavezm.b.s5503 There are countless more aspects than just not sacrificing or compromising clarity.
COMING BACK TO THIS VIDEO 1 YEAR AFTER AND IT STILL SO RELEVANT. THANK YOUUUUU
I’ve switched to using fab pro L2/ SIR standard clip for all actual dynamics control, and compression is more for effect/distortion/vibe. Every track has the pro L2 shaving off 3-5 db (sometimes more if it doesn’t need to be dynamic). Really tightened up my mixes and made mastering way easier.
Big Z … the man teaching us what other won’t , thanks so much king super helpful 🙏🏼
every sound in your mix sounds so nice man and they all work perfectly together
Music gigachad
this is - by far - one of my fav. music producing channels / mixing channels on youtube.
Always incredible advice! Gonna have to buy your Serum preset pack as well 🤘🏼💛✨🎶
Solid explanation of the limiting busses. Seen a couple vids on it but this one was great
Something to mention, in Skrillex's Mumbai Power video you can see he's using the transparent setting on his bus limiter
Saturation can also be used to increase the perceived loudness of a sound and control the dynamics while reducing the RMS.
Essentially what he is doing with the hard limiting
Limiting doesn`t add harmonics which is why saturation adds perceived loudness.
@@Bloquednb hard limiting does, but to those reaching the set limit, meaning you don't have to add unwanted harmonics to the rest of the sound, if your goal is only to increase perceived loudness
I use BlackBox by Plugin Alliance for loudness. It's perfect
@@Hovis_Enjoyer exactly...plus if you want catching the peack(and i do almost all the time) the attack should be 0 ...
This video has so many gems in it. Thank you, I never thought to do this with the limiter.
Wow, your knowledge and communication approach are second to none. I have been producing for ages and I learn something new today. Subbed and keep up the awesome work.
This was such a well made easy to understand breakdown! For people interested in learning more about the last concept I want to reference AHEE and Baphometrix. They go super in depth on Skrillex’s bus mastering technique. Thank u for the tutorial!
Could you hook me up with the links of the tutorials, please?
@@Prodmonja ruclips.net/video/VdOGSh3Rmak/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/5UT42-ur080/видео.html
Thank you! Love all your videos! Just purchased one of your sound packs too! Sounds I definitely been searching for;)
Most mastering engineers use two limiters to get to a commercial volume as slamming it through one chokes the sound. Also things to consider are expansion which makes songs sound bigger, loud and jump out of speakers. Saturation, multiband compression, mid/side eq and compression etc. Being super loud is irrelevant nowadays but creating a punchy and bold mix is always good. Good job Big Z
If you guys think rumble sounds like skrillex’s best master, it’s because he didn’t master it. Luca pretolesi did. He does all of diplos masters and he did the Jack u album too. I was impressed when I found out skrillex mastered about 70% of his own album. But you can clearly tell Luca is the dude.
This beat is 🔥🔥🔥! You've got some serious skills. Can't wait for more! 🎧👏
You’re a natural born teacher man, thank you for this 🙏
Great video. Most of these tips / techniques are valuable even if you're not interested in super loud masters. BTW, standard clip allows up to 256 times oversampling. That's too much for live producing, but it's entirely ok when you print your mix/master. And, standard clip allows you to set one oversampling rate for live and a higher one for printing. And, it allows you to choose the type of brick-wall, anti-aliasing filter you want. It's a pretty great, very configurable clipper for buses and even your 2bus.
That limiter tip has to be one of the best things I've learnt on the internet, kudos brother.
As Always Amazing , Thank You Big Z
That last tip was huge, helped so much .
Amazing video, this is the key piece I was missing in mastering my tracks for loudness. Thanks!!!
Big info from Big Z. Thanks for sharing, man. Always looking for things I don't know or have not thought of yet. I learned something today!
Great video again, bro! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Congratulations for all your work, i am denfinitly getting Modern Syths, as soon as posible, greetings from Ensenada México amigo : )
Amazing tips as always! You are amazing, dude!🤟🤝
Each and every Big Z video that comes out have become like crack to me.. Great work as always!!
Composition + arraignment x good choice in voices and eq.. 👍🏻
I saw Mr.Bill hitting +1.5 Lufs / 0.1 true peak once and it was amazing. Never been the same since that day.
The bus comp you added back on after the group limiters will be adding back the extra dB's you gained - granted with a more even response.. You could add another agro limiter or Kclip/Standard Clip?Fire the Clip on after the comp to get those 1 or 2 dB the comp is reintroducing. Sounds really good man
Keep doing these content, you do it well
So many useful and essential tips, I will watch it again many times
Amazing reverb tip! Thanks Big Z!
Hey bro, I make DnB and other electronic music. Thanks for all your tips and tricks, some of them have been very helpful to my workflow! thanks again bro!
You're still the LOGIC Pro and overall production GOAT!
Great video. I was thinking about this the past few weeks. Copped the presets as a thank you.
Insane video, man! Hope you will keep analyzing different artists and then make video about it!
This video paired with the on that Ahee did about Skrillex's routing chains in ableton are way useful. If you're looking for more info on exactly why/how you can hit -4 LUFS, check that breakdown. Love your videos BZ!
-4 LUFS is just completely unnecessary these days.
Most of tracks on Eatbrain label are -3 to -4 Lufs
yeah doesn't anything above like -10 LUFS just get squashed anyways on streaming services
@@Danz_Partydjing tho
At least in dubstep djs like it around at least -6
I love hearing about production tips for Skrillax 🙌🏻
I feel stupid admitting this, but the section about keeping your drums mostly fry was game changing for me.
The Group Mastering trick is Gold!!! ❤❤
layers as one sound. simple concept, but great to focus in on!
is LD Elsewhere & LD Mirage a reference to the Brooklyn concert venues?
Great guide dude! Limiting and Compression within the mix is such a hard concept to grapple with and you did a great break down of how to use it in a simple and easy way!
Thanks, always useful ! king
You are the best!! Pure
This is such an amazing and simple tutorial for all of my vocals! Thank you so much!
This is so on point. Thank you man!
Great video! Some good points here.
I hope you use ozone 😢for this technique of loudness and pick it’s very interesting but i don’t have fabfilter
Thanks for sharing this! And those presets sound very smooth, looking to cop soon
"I don't want any distortion so i'm gonna back off a little bit"
*proceeds to lower volume by more than 50% 😂😂
Big Z, thanks for your Channel and Knowledge!
Good stuff Big Z!
Absolute geniuse tip !! Thanks 🙌
This vid was really helpful and straight to the point, huge W
Ty❤️
Great tips man
I've tried putting an L2 on my Drum/Bass/Synth busses but I get weird timings (latency?) all over the place in LPX. What am I doing wrong? Is it a Logic setting? Help..
Wow. I love this video. Thank you.
This is heavenly good!
This video is a golden nugget... Thank you so much!!
I always enjoy your content
Loving the project track very nice
Great video! Thanks for sharing, one of the best tutorials I’ve seen in a while 🙌
I needed all of this 🙌
what a great video! Again! you are killing the production videos man, So many useful and concise tips here, thank you for sharing!
Excellent video once again! I love to see (and hear) your in depth tips & tricks on just one certain subject; they supply great new insights!
don't get RMS and LUFS mixed up. A decently loud master should peak at around -4.5 RMS where as in terms of LUFS you usually land at around -8
Love this channel!
Awesome, just what I needed to know in an easy to understand way, thanks, subbed 👍 😀
your synth are the best !!!
Thanks for the tips my man! So awesome!
Really valuable tips here thx mate
So many gems in this one
Also, his routing is crazy. His tracks are routed to different chains... Hype chain, basic chain, chain master, premaster.
Nice man thx for sharing that!!!
good stuff, birds back bowling baby!
Perfect, thank you! EDIT: I try in a mixing process and wow, really can get 2 or 3 dB more at -0 in my master! Thank you again!
Thanks for sharing. Great help.🤗
Big Z u magnificent bastard, you've done it again!
This is something I haven't tried yet. Thank you .
The master chain is also missing things like a mono maker, stereo widener, passive eq and many other things that add to the master but don’t have a place in the mix so much ✨✨
great knowledge, love the example song too ngl
Great videos, thank you so much man
Thanku so much What lookhead does in L2
This is such a great video.
I use 0 Attack to catch the peak bro...works like a charm
Exxelent and well produced and delivered video 📀
Really nice video! Thank you for making this
2:34 - Does Logic have track grouping? Good way to codify the idea of tracks supporting each other
Imma try that for sure! Thanks for the video 🙏
Awesome! I think I will have a look at these serum presets for reverse engineering
Usefull as always!!
It is not the best idea to limit your drums, unless you want that pumping effect. Prefer soft clipping instead.
This workflow could be improved a lit by using clippers instead of limiters on the busses. Clippers are not pumpy, retain punch and saturate the transient to suppliment loss of level with wide eq bursts...
Secret: just pump it up all and kill the dynamics. Actually there should be variation in loudness of the notes and the percussion.