6.5-300 WBY vs 6.5 Creedmoor
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- In this video I show the strengths and weaknesses of the 6.5-300 WBY. I compare it to popular cartridges like the 6.5 Creed, 6.5 PRC, 7mm PRC and 28 Nosler. Should I get one? Let me know below!
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Short answer: yes
Long answer: why the hell not
You know as I read through all the comments it's funny how some people claim to know so much about a gun they don't own. Yes , speed kills barrels, but it also kills anything it hits. So what if you only get 600 to 1000 shots out of a barrel. That is the cheapest replacement for so much fun and bragging rights. Go for it brother. Don't let the negative thoughts bother you.
I'm not worried about barrel life
I like this guy.
I love my 6.5x300 weatherby. It loves the 127 gr. Barnes LRX
I would be excited to see the 300-378. A true beast, but interesting to see by how much it outperforms the 300
I say absolutely yes you should. Ive got 2, an Accuguard and a Vanguard. Shouldn't have any trouble getting 1" groups with factory ammo. 127gr. LRX. Need brass? Buy the silver box 140 grain load. Cheaper than new brass.😮
Dont give a hoot about efficiency if i want go fast. Burn powder like a 427 cu/inch V8 burns gas, both go fast. I hear tails of a 7mm-378 on the horizon 😊.
I think you should go with the 270 Weatherby mag. Its more efficient than the 6.5-300 and hangs pretty close with it for velocity.
Yes your going to love the 6.5~300 Wby. It will stack dimes on accuracy with some practice time at the range. You can get it in a Vanguard pretty affordably. Cant wait for you to join the club. 👍👍
Get the 338-378 also
I have a Mark v in 6.5x300 and all I can say is, wow. It's the fastest, flatest, cartridge that I have. 127 Barnes smoking. Shot a big male bobcat with it at about 120 yards and the cat fell before the sound left the barrel good. I mean it disappeared so fast I thought I missed. Went down to it a d it was laying there on its side. It had spun that cat 180 degrees and flipped it over at the same time. Bad to da bone.
I appreciate that Barnes too
Don't forget about the WBY 6.5 RPM is a nice cartridge mine is awesome. Keep up the good work really enjoy watching your content 👍
i have to say that i'm hyped to see what a 6.5-300 can do (like a 26nosler but this is another story) !
6.5 rpm vs 6.5 prc can be interesting too
I started looking at this cartridge a little differently when Dave Petzal wrote that he replaced his 300 Win Mag (not Wby Mag) Accumark with it and found it to be just as effective on game. Dave has also written before that he has used both the .270 Winchester (with 150 grain bullets) and the .300 Win Mag (with 180 grain bullets) extensively for hunting and cannot see a difference between them in terms of effectiveness on game.
I'm a 70 year old man and have hunted mule deer and elk since I could buy my first legal license at the age of 14. I have had average success so I've harvested a number of elk and have used lots of different calibers to do it. Where I live in southern Colorado there are opportunities to take long range shots but I don't if I'm not comfortable with the shot. In reality a shot across a 40 acre pasture is long. 440 yards. I've used the most popular magnum calibers, 7mm, 300, and 338. As the years have gone by I've lowered the number of rifles down to what works well for me. I've sold off all my magnum rifles because I don't need them and when reloading it costs much more than my other rifles. If I need magnum power I use my 35 Whelen which is a beast and the most efficient cartridge I've ever loaded for yet most often I don't need more than my 30-06 or a 275 Rigby.
I’m remember this poll and was torn about the choices since I would have loved for you to have several. That said, if you’re gonna have a 6.5 it might as well be a weatherby. Hey, if you run out of brass, just grab a few 300s and neck them down haha.
They are fun, accurate and you don't need a muzzle brake, I don't know why I purchased a 6.5 creed and prc I will never hunt with them having the 6.5 x 300, however in the end you don't need us to answer your question it is obvious you answered it yourself. Just share with us when you purchase your 6.5 x 300 WBY. HA HA
Before considering a 6.5-300, play around with lighter bullets with your 340 Weatherby.
Try some Hammer 180-200 grain bullets and compare that to the 6.5-300.
If you want to get a 6.5-300 to add to your stable get it and never look back.
A buddy has one in the back country 2.0 and loves it.
I have some 160 gr TTSX bullets I need to try.
@@ReloadingWeatherby absolutely!
Hammer’s lightest is 175 grain, get a sample pack of 15, I get their sample packs all the time.
Try a 150 accubond in the 300 and compare to the 6.5
@@tylorwoloszyn9076 150’s in a 300 WBY is like a house on fire!
I think you should get a 6.5-300 Weatherby. It would be really interesting to see what you can do reloading for it. I have a 6.5-300 Ultra Ultra Mag.
I haven’t done any shooting with it yet though. I’m waiting on dies. I know it will be disappointing with a 26 inch barrel but if it shows promise, then I will probably keep messing around with it.
I wish wby would just offer 30” barrels on these over bore cartridges.
I agree
Yes, it's pure fun in a cartridge. Speed, a lot of theatrics with smoke and sound, but still quite mild to shoot.
Yes, or 30-378
I have one and really like it. Its an expensive rifle (Backcountry 2.0) and the ammo is expensive. I really only use it for hunting as such. Feels like a waste to own it to use it so little, but im getting into reloading so hopefully that offsets the cost and allows me to shoot it more.
270 Weatherby Magnum
I have one in vanguard synthetic. I bought it when it first came out. Now I wished I would have gotten one in the mark V. Love the caliber.
Yes! Absolutely! I have a 6.5-300 and LOVE it! I always hated the 6.5 manbun and the hype as I was a 30 cal guy. Then I won a Mark V Ultra Lightweight in 6.5-300 and fell in love with the rifle/cartridge. It’s mild recoiling and crazy fast with a ton of energy dumped into the animal.
I’ve switched over to lead free as I eat only wild game and don’t want to add to much lead into my families diet (no matter how awesome Accubonds work). So the speed of the 6.5-300 has been amazingly effective with Barnes 127 gr LRX. I’m going to be working up loads with 130 gr Hornady CX though as well for a bit more oomph (not much but it’s got better SD) for my mountain goat, whitetail, mule deer, elk and moose hunts this fall.
And it has taken 3 big whitetail, and a big black bear this past season with more DRT than my 30-06 ever had. That’s what really sold me on it; seeing them drop in their tracks or only going 20 feet. If you’re using it for longer bullets and target shooting I’d suggest the 156 Berger… just don’t hit anything within 400 yards or it’ll grenade before it gets into the body cavity! It is a speedster for sure!
Its a HOT ROD!!
I like
Looks of that 6.5 RPM. But dont need the 6.5/06 I have. Hahahaha.
Kewl stuff man! ❤❤
Gotta try em all.....within reason of price an availability. Then maybe a Weatherby only cartridge show down
Hey man, I’m fairly new to the channel but been loving the videos on the Weatherby cartridges. You inspired me to dip my foot into them. I just went and picked a 30-378 Thursday. Also, to make it better I’m local as well. So while you wait for the 6.5-300 we could have some fun with my 30-378.😁
Message me on Instagram. I would love to feature your rifle on the channel.
@@ReloadingWeatherby DM sent!
@@SharpsBuffalo1874 Hey guys your going to love the 30-378. When you take it to the range be kind to her and leave the Bolt open between shots to cool off. This will be a big help as you’ll notice she gets Smokin Hot. Look forward to seeing how you like it. I love mine for sure. Enjoy 🤘😎🤘👍👍
@@S_Waltz That’s what I’ve read on forums about it. But, thanks for the heads up.
@@S_Waltzagreed! It’s basically a 30 caliber 6.5-300 because it’s just as crazy overbore! If you’re planning on doing any target shooting let it cool completely between 3 shot groups!
Yes, if your gonna go for an overbore speed demon, the 6.5x300wby is the way to go. People talking about efficiency, if efficiency was the topic then this cartridge wouldnt even be mentioned nor would a 26 Nos etc. This is about flat shooting and pure nasty sweaty sexy speed. I say good choice sir.
I have one in a Vanguard i got just for fun, killed 2 deer with it last season just to try it out. 127gr lrx, one ran hunkered hard with tail down for prob 12yds and killed over and the other is my biggest bodied buck to date, he went nowhere. 1st buck was approx 80yd shot, big guy was 218yds. Hit hard, killed quickly, but neither bled at all. Maybe thats on the lrx bullet but i dont like that. Still was fun to try it out.
Fun gun to play with a little. I say go for it.
Love my 6.5-300
I would be awesome if Weatherby would make a 7mm-300 Weatherby
There is talk of maybe 7mm-378 Weatherby that would be awesome either way
There’s a guy up in Alberta selling his 7-300 Weatherby Mag custom. Custom dies and custom rifle with his own load data. I have a 6.5-300 and seriously want to purchase the 7-300 to up the frontal diameter with almost as much speed! A 145 gr LRX going just under 3400 fps in a 28” barrel (according to the seller) is insane!
But I don’t want to sell my 6.5-300 juuuuuuust yet to afford that project as I LOVE my Mark V Ultra Lightweight combo with that cartridge.
I just wish the 7-300 was a Weatherby supported cartridge, it’d be awesome!
Absolutely. Its my next as well
Go the 270wby man! Barely any content on RUclips of that caliber but alot of people are interested in it.
Absolutely
The 257 Wby Mag and 6.5x300 Wby Mag are the two Wby cartridges that I have the most interest in and in some of the Mark Vs I can get them left handed.
After the speed issues with the 7 PRC you need a true speed pick me up
Definitely should
I've had mine several years. Killed many mule deer, nice whitetail buck too. But I used the factory load with 140 grain swift aflame. Awesome!!!
Buy it!!!!!😊
It's not about want,it's about need.
Get a mark V accumark if you buy one, owned mine now for round 5yrs now and she still going strong 💪🏻
I would say go bigger. Get the 378 weatherby magnum. That is my dream cartridge.
I use US869 in mine and it shoots consistently faster than what the book says. Especially with heavier bullets.
What velocities you getting?
@@ReloadingWeatherby 89gr US869 with 156 Berger EOL at 3320 shoots terrible. 94gr US869 with 127gr barns lrx 3650 shoots good. 94gr with 124gr hammer hunter at 3650 shoots really good. Got 129gr absolute hammers but have yet to try.
Get an accumark at a minimum. Heavier barrel. 6.5 300 heats barrels up real fast!!
If you want speed and more recoil than a 7rem mag. Then yes!!
I just finished my own research on the 6.5
I choose the 6.5 PRC
Only because it has great ballistics and is more affordable than the Weatherby factory rounds.
Yes the 6.5 rpm is a little bit faster the 6.5-300 is a lot faster.
But for ethical hunting distance the 6.5 PRC
Is very adequate.
But if you don’t care about barrel life,recoil,or ammunition cost
then the 6.5-300 is the best choice.👍👍
You should have looked at the 6.8 Western 🇦🇺👍
It's a great way to go through powder by the shovel full.😉
I mean... I'm kind of use to it with my other Weatherby cartridges
I shoot a custom built 26 Nosler, was really hoping to see that comparison. Nonetheless another enjoyable video!
How long is your barrel? What velocities are you getting?
6.5x300 Flattest shooting commercial round made.....enough said.
I feel like it doesnt fill a gap in your arsenal (not that it needs too). In my opinion a 240 or 416 would be nice end caps.
I would only be getting this gun for RUclips content
@@ReloadingWeatherby then send it
Go a head and get the twin turbo man bun lol. Just joking that’s a speedster for sure.
I've been struggling with that decision myself
Yes!
I want the 6.5 Rpm 😃👍
Get one! Get one of each! Insanely overbore! Just know you're the reason there's a powder shortage.😂
Austin I’d also say that I had great results with the Barnes 127 lrx with my rifle it’s a vanguard badlands. Very accurate and I’ve killed two bucks with the rifle and performance is good with those Barnes bullets cuz of the velocity. These bullets can withstand the high velocity and they do not blow up or blood shoot as bad as cup and core bullets. I haven’t tried anything bonded that 130 scirocco would be sweet too.
Did you do a video for the 250 ABLR in the .340 WM yet?
Not yet
😃 You Know Austin, I Bet Jack O'Conner Heard The Same Comments About His 270 Winchester! And All Jack Did Was Keep Putting Animals Into the Record Books, While His Critics Didn't! 😜
Who?
@@ReloadingWeatherby Regarding Your Live Chat This Morning and Old "Billy Bob"! O'Connor Hunted Alot of Places With It and Alot of Species and It Did Just Fine! 🤪
@@ronlowney4700 Bu...bu...but, muh 270.
I have a 26 nosler and it's a beast
Nice
I am really interested in that google sheets file you showed. Did you hard code the bullet drop in inches in the cells, or did you use a formula? I have been trying to figure out a formula for my own ballistics excel sheet to calculate drop with no luck.
I put it manually... sadly
Should try out the 240 Weatherby mag best light magnum I ever shot
You say the 6.5 creedmoor is the most popular hunting cartridge but I feel you should double check that. It sure isn't the most popular where I live. Lots of people here have a 6.5 creedmoor but not for elk hunting. It was designed to be a paper puncher at long range, which it does well. I do think you should get a 6.5-300 weatherby because it seems to be what you want, just make sure you buy loading dies for it.
338rpm!
As a world famous Tuber - You are morally obligated to run the 7mm Weatherby!!!!!
I’ve been thinking about running either hammers or Lrx. I want to get a night force 5-25 atacr and throw it on a mark 5 back country 2.0 ti with a gun works titanium suppressor and back landz bipod and custom turrets. Should be the ultimate hunting rifle. 6.5-300
Haven't tried the hammers yet. Very curious!
atacr, is a fine scope I own one BUT, it's too heavy for that gun.
@@chrispolovich3071yeah that’s a good point for some reason I thought it was closer to 30 but it’s like 40 yikes lol
@@dawsondethlefs5266 nightforce nx8
I would be trying those 156 bergers
Hell yeah u should.
I’m looking into getting my first Weatherby. I’m going between the 257 and 7mm. Held the new 307 range xp the other day and I think I’ll got with that in 257. Otherwise the mark V live wild edition in 7mm. Decisions decisions 🤔
Get the 257 Weatherby! Unless you are wanting to hunt bigger game
Ya I’m kind of thinking more 257. If I want bigger game I have a 30-06, 26 Nosler and 300 PRC for that.
@@ReloadingWeatherby would you recommend it in the Vanguard Talon or 307 Range XP? Online I can get the Talon for $1165. 307 locally for $1199
@@tgunz64 I think the 307 will be easier to shoot
@@ReloadingWeatherby or should I go with a Mark V Live Wild? I choose the live wild because it has the features I like and doesn’t cost $2000+ like the backcountry models. Like to keep it around $1500ish or less.
Look at the powder capacities it requires to attain the speeds shown. I question is it worth it? In the age of range finders when all rifles have become long range shoots, if you know the ballistics of you cartridge, I can't justify the additional expense of anything Weatherby.
Yes
Yes!!!!!
The reason why my vote for the 6.5-300 is cuz one I love weatherby cartridges there cool the rifles are great too, I like the 257 wby too but it really isn’t on par with the 6.5-300 wby cuz of the class of bullets that can be used, I’d say it is better than any of the other weatherby cartridges in its class like the 270 or 7mm weatherby. Albeit the 30-378 wby would obviously out shoot this cartridge but not far behind.
Did you get rid of your 300wby? Maybe I missed it, although thought you said you only have the 257 and 340.
No I still have my 300 Weatherby
I also think “Man-Bun”!
latte sipping man bun lol.
Would you be buying another rifle? If you have a gun smith you like you could get a barrel to put in one of your other guns, it be cheaper in my opinion
Might be a good idea
I have a 6.5-300 and I love the thing and it’s a powerful creature good enough to take Sasquatch I’m not kidding
The throat is cracked by the time the rest of the barrel is broke in. 😂 I'm kidding, the 6.5-300 is wild.
Vanguard’s have a 26” barrel;)
You need a runoff election vs the 2nd ranked cartridge
Looks like by the time you work up a load and sight it in your barrel gone .
I thought the .375 chey tac was the flattest shooting Cartridge in the world?
It's like going back in time to the first u.s. 6.5 win mag 1958 that started the 6.5 belted magnum look up the info for that in 1958 I bet ud be surprised then to now
I know exactly what it is
Yes you should get it and reload with Barnes 100 TTSX. Push it to 4000 fps! 😂
Haha 200 round barrel life!
@@ReloadingWeatherby but it would be a glorious fast and furious 200 rounds!
I was hoping for the 338 rpm . Still hope you change your mind
Not sure that will happen... I own a 340 Weatherby
@@ReloadingWeatherby I know, I know it's an amazing gun too . Still can't get into the 6.5 craze on my end lol
If you want to change the barrel between 500-1000rounds go for it
Prob more like 400-600.
270 Weatherby just seems more practicle. But you do you, we will still watch.
I keep telling you; “460 WM C’mon!”
👍👍👍yep👍👍😃
. Why don't you think about getting a 7mm Wby Mag first?
Sadly... I have no desire for one.
@@ReloadingWeatherby Sadly... As it may outperform the newer 7mm in many ways.
I have one a Mark V Deluxe Accumark. I’m going to get dragged around here, but this is one of my least favorite Weatherby cartridges.
Why do you dislike it?
@@ReloadingWeatherbyWeatherby takes standard cartridges and makes them perform a whole lot better. Your 340 is a step up from the 338 Win, but nothing insane, that would make it useful only in a niche category. To me, the 6.5-300 is a highly specialized niche cartridge, ultra long range for limited size game, recoil and muzzle blast are extreme. I argue the same for the 338-378. The ROI is just not there.
I don't Needmore
As long as it's a mark V, bro
What is wrong with the Vanguard?
@@ReloadingWeatherby Don't get me wrong - I have 5 Vanguards (one Howa) in 223, 6.5x55, 308, 3006 and 300 win mag, but the mark V is a much better action.
No buy a 25-06 instead.
Get a 270 Weatherby!
I like the 270 Weatherby
Why wouldn’t you compare it to the 26 nosler rather than the 28. That would be a much more 🍎 to 🍏 comparison.
Because the 26 Nosler is within 50 FPS of the 6.5-300 WBY.
If I did iwould get a mkv accumark
@@ReloadingWeatherby so what are you thinking another pretty princess or a purpose built hunting rifle. Modern Weatherby Carbon stock, titanium action. Im sure you know the model I’m talking about. 👍👍. That rifle in that cartridge is a match made in heaven.
6.5 anything is boring but it does come in a vanguard
You will have the baddest 6.5 on the planet , if you buy one get one in the new 307 you won’t be sorry .
If you don't get one, you'll always wish you did.
Ummmmm….yea
I am tired of the 6.5's honestly. I'd rather see something that you don't see often like .270 WBY or 7mm WBY.
How much meat will it wreck?
With an all copper bullet? Not much
Not much if you use the 127 LRX and especially if you don’t smash through both shoulders. I hit my animals through the lungs and just over the heart and they just drop with jelly in the middle. The one I hit through the shoulder (quartering to) it zipped through the muscle and bone and jellied the lungs. It was better than when I’ve done it with my 30-06 with 165 gr Accubonds. Less meat damage and a super quick lights out.
If you use softer bullets, like the 140 gr Hornady or the 156 gr Berger it’ll grenade; especially at closer range. But the Berger is designed for that at low speeds (and huge distances as it is designed to grenade after penetrating 2-3”) so imagine what it’d do at 3200 fps instead of 1800 fps lol 😂
@@Cool-hand-hunting I agree if you hit bone
Hit it behind the shoulder, and don't worry about it.
You need to get two and send me one.
Good idea
26 Nosler!!
Another speed demon
The reasons I won’t buy a 6.5-300 and 6.5 PRC. Own a 26 Nosler and a creedmoor. Covered in the 6.5 arena.
I would not ! Barrel life is too short, and way too much recoil.
No! ........ get a 270 Weatherby!