First groups! 7mm WSM
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- In this video I take out my "new" Savage 110 in 7mm WSM. I try some Winchester factory ammo and 150 gr ELD-X handloads. I also brought my Mark V Deluxe in 340 Weatherby and tested the 250 gr Accubond.
So much Hoopla about the 7PRC and the 6.8 W. The 7PRC is basically a 7WSM in a long action, long bullets seated out to 3.35", 6.8W a bit shorter case and a bit longer overall. All 3 almost equal. Individual preference. I will stick to the 7RM, about the same performance
I just shot my latest 7RemMag today. If you didn't have a 7RemMag and the following were all readily available, equal amounts of factory loadings, equal amount of reloading components, etc., which would you choose?
7RemMag
7PRC
7WSM
6.8 Western
Agree, the cartridges you mentioned are so similar that arguing over preference is ridiculous. The majority of shooters are less capable than the cartridges themselves
@@Accuracy1st It will be a 7RM, About the same performance, BUT in a 3.8" action,(a bit more room to seat out long bullets) Standard 1 in 9 twist (doubt I'll ever load heavier than 180 grns (160 to 175grns max) Midway has a 10 to 1 availabillity of loaded ammo and cases. Every fish and takle store on the backroads of America will have 7RM. I doubt about the others. Just covenient for me. Will have my old 1917 Enfield rebarreled to 35 Whelen. If I kept it as 30-06, wouldn't need a 7RM. It's mindbogling to make up My mind. Might just Hotrod it to 28 Nosler
Yeah. Lots of crossover. But if im buying new its 6.8 western.
@@hotramen5952 ok fed boi
You’ve got me side eyeing a new Weatherby. Your love for them is infectious. A new Accumark Apex in 338 RPM may be in my safe soon.
Nice
Check the availabillity between the 338RPM and the Old 338WM. About the same performance
I know you’re sick of me commenting about it…… the 7 WSM was absolutely the biggest miss (I know not 100% in their control) by Hunter/Reloaders. 139-160 grain bullets, a good rifle, and the efficiency of the cartridge is near perfect. All the average Hunter at hunting range needs. It can easily be loaded with reduced loads to mimic the 7mm08 and nearly as efficiently. I’d trade my new PRC rifle today for a fully supported rerelease… have a 300 WSM on the way. Excited for it.
I'm not sick of. Thanks for commenting
Long live the 300wsm it just makes the most sense 😊
Totally agree. I love mine it’s so underrated especially if you reload.
Why wsm and WSSM are not more popular is beyond me.
Lawsuit and royalty money has something to do with it.
One of the main reasons for the WSSM is the feeding problem that occur with that short of cartridge and the other is the lawsuits
Honestly I never got into the WSM, WSSM, or the RSAUM cartridges. Definitely no knock against them by any means I worked up loads for a 270 WSM and it was great. I guess just being a dedicated handloader I still like the belted cartridges just for ease of making brass out of other belted mags. I never did understand how the 7 WSM didn’t really make it though I thought it was a great cartridge. Only ones I ever see in person anymore are the 300 WSM and 270 WSM. I did always think the 325 WSM was the most underrated cartridge of all of them though, and I would prolly own one if I ever found one lol.
The Accubonds would be hard to beat in the 340 Wby. Love the performance of that Nosler bullet! Good luck with the 7mm WSM testing!
I made a cheap barrel cooler out of a usb powered portable inflator pump and a piece of high temp hose from ace. I throw it in the barrel after each 5 shot string when doing load development and moving between charges or seating depth changes.
Nice
I did same/ simular. Works wonderful and wasnt 100$+ like commercial chillers!!
I did the same as well.
Desert Dog Outdoors has a good video about this
The wsm is showing some promise. I think bedding the front action screw/recoil lug might also help with the grouping. I have to say that 340 is absolutely gorgeous!
Thanks
I’ve had all the 7 mags and hands down I had a rifle built in 7mmWSM and have zero regrets. Hand loaded 140 VLD , 140 Nolser Partitions and 140TTSX using IMR 4350 and 215 primer. I hunt mostly whitetail,Hogs and a few Aoudad. Due to a neck and back injury my Elk and Moose days are over. Look forward to passing her down to my Grandson one day.
A buddy of mine has a WSM trio; 300 WSM shooting 165 Accubonds, 7MM shooting 160 Accubonds and 270 shooting 140 Accubonds. They are all good shooters and he’s killed a truck load of game with each. I am not big on shooting on summer days since nothing cools down as quickly as other wise.
I love my 270wsm it’s a killer
My Browning A bolt 7 wsm loves the 140 Badlands with 64 grains of 4831sc, it’ll shoot consistently 5 shot .5 inch groups @ 100 yards with and average velocity of 3100 fps out of a 21 inch barrel. One thing I found that really decreased my group size from 1.5 inch to .5 inch was switching from a magnum primer to a large rifle primer.
I was using a larger rifle primer in this video
I have been a die hard Nosler hunter/shooter/loader for many years up until 3 years ago when it became extremely hard to find 7mm Nosler AB’s in 140 or 160gr. I started load development with Hammers and was so easy I put the 120gr HH and 143gr HH in my lineup. Still shoot Nosler but no exclusively. I’m fortunate to be able to harvest 10 whitetail deer a year and a few hogs. I was worried about Hammers not having enough expansion but found out like other bullets, if placed correctly, DRT. Thanks for video. I’m sure it’s hot up there but down in Deep South it’s cooking.
Yes,it is smoking hot..I won't ask exactly which South, S,eastern state with 10deers but I bet I can figure within 3 guesses 😆 greetings from Tupelo..I've been seriously considering, curiously looking at the hammers..270,7mm,708,300wm etc. Do you feel like you are getting really good results/performance for the money?
@@camwinston5248 Hammers are easy to load for but they are sure expensive. Once I work up a load, I don’t shoot many after until hunting season. I still worry about wound channel with them. I’ve killed almost 10 deer so far and had trouble finding one due to almost no blood trail but was only 15 yards away (at dark). Steve (Hammer owner) is a great guy and will help you in any way he can). Great people. I live in North Central Florida and hunt mainly in central Georgia. I know it’s a little warm in Tupelo also. I think you should try the Hammers. I run the 143’s in my .280AI and the 120’s in my 7-08. Hammer Hunters (no tip). They are less money and shoot just as good. They give 10% off to first responders and military vets. They have sample packs and a lot of load info on their site.
@@johnkaraphillis754 I thoroughly appreciate your detailed response..and greetings to you in Florida and I know central GA is a good hunting whitetail location..I fully understand the not wanting to have to track a deer especially in the thickets we have and at dusk dark..I am a strong proponent of a full pass thru with a great wound channel that dumps alot of 'shocking" power on the way as well. I am a great fan of the 35whelen 200gr pill..it knocks a impressive hole and i wouldn't be afraid to take out to 300yd at all if needed. Big fan! Very efficient cartridge as well, I've been looking at the hammers possibly for the 7rm and 300wm primarily..I've found the federal fusion excellent in the 7/08 for deer, I've never had or shot a 280ai but I've always seen it to be a very impressive round on paper,would love to shoot one..I'm also LOL thinking of putting together an 30/378 just for fun of course..now as far as deer are concerned if being open and honest I could probably do 90% of my hunting with the ol' 30/30 and not be lacking at all. I really appreciate the info. Great hunting and straight shooting to you this coming season!! I hope you get one of those 18-20in wide 240lb 10pts this year!!! 🫎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦌
I have a custom 270 wsm with 1-8 Bartlien barrel. With Berger 170gr elite hunter @ 3200 fps
How long a barrel?
Very nice
I don't think that's all heat related with the stringing, that's how non-accustock savages roll. Maybe 60 heat/40 stock, maybe even 50/50. I can loan you one with an aluminum bed in it if you want. That puppy can get under 1/2 moa I bet.
Those loads are screaming. Blowing my SAUM out of the water.
I thought of what you told me before I even shot it as I consistently got a 3rd flyer lol
@@ReloadingWeatherby Aw, you remembered me, lol. Well I'm serious. I'm not doing much shooting right now and I have 2 other rifles to focus on. It's a savage factory stock, not aftermarket. I live in central Davis. I'm actually more serious now, I think that rifle is a winner. If you want, no pressure obv. Thanks for the content.
The load i hunt deer with. in 7 mm wsm I use a 140 GR Burger with 71 GR of RL 19 .
Absolutely love your videos and can’t wait for one to drop. Where are you finding Alliant powders? A Winchester powder rep told me they went all government and no longer going to sell to the reloading consumers. Said only going to see what’s left trickling out.
I believe you.
I got my Alliant powder a while ago
When I pull into the range, if there are more than 4 cars, I just keep driving. Too much money to waste on a bad time. I'll go eat or something, then try later.
Great group to end the day.
Yep
Man that mark V is an incredible looking rifle. I thought the early 220gr hammer group was good but that last 250gr accubond group was unreal.
My next rifle will be a mk V in either a 257 or 300 I think.
What Mark V would you get?
@@ReloadingWeatherby Who would buy a mk V and not get a deluxe 😎
Seen a used mark 5 340 today in west Virginia thought of you soon as I seen it price wasn't bad either
Go get it!
Yep, what R. Dubb said. Two outta three .340 Wby owners recommend it highly. 😂
What store was it?
Sportsman's warehouse morgan town
@@frankspataro9714
Sportsman's Warehouse will probably gouge you for something pretty darn close to the price of a new one.
Watching your videos is costing me mega $$$. Now I'm obsessed with finding a 7mm Weatherby!! Got my 👁 (blue tho) on one that I may go look at on Saturday. If your gonna get a 7 mag, might as well get the Weatherby!!! 🤣🤷
What type of Mark V?
@@ReloadingWeatherby weathermark.
Hi Austin! Love the videos! I always like hearing about cartridges and comparisons. I have had a Mark V Deluxe in .340 Weatherby for 19 years now! What a heavy hitter and I am beyond glad you got your dream rifle! I hope you get the chance to take it elk hunting this fall. You know, I have not always subscribed to the 3 shot group for accuracy. I like to shoot when the barrel is cool to see how it does in a first shot hunting situation. In my experience, like you, that 3rd shot always seems to be a flier. With those hot magnums, the barrel is just too hot and expands thus the rifling doesn't have the nice grip on the bullet. I could be wrong! Any thoughts?
I agree it's harder to get a good 3 shot group with a magnum. First shot is most important obviously. It can take a little more work to get a nice 3 shot group vs something like a 308 Winchester. But I can always eventually find a load that works.
My favourite bullets
Which ones?
@@ReloadingWeatherby Winchester supreme 270 wsm just impossible to find in Canada
Good shooting what was velocity on your hand loads
I’ve never considered the 340 weatherby for purchase due to the recoil. Meanwhile, you are shooting one like it’s a 243.
Haha! Thanks for watching Chad
If you put a brake on a 340 the recoil is acceptable !…….
Question:: Are you shooting the ttsx bullets in a clean barrel?? No other bullets have been shot thru it before?? IDK why, but if you shoot copper after a gilded metal bullet, the copper will not group!! i didn't know if you knew that, so i wanted to bring it up. Keep shooting, and i will leep watching, lol. Good stuff , thanks for sharing.
In my browning abolt 7mm wsm Per Barnes data I’m shooting a max load load of 66 gr of h4831sc. Velocity averages 3120. 1 inch groups. I don’t wanna play with it to much to conserve brass. I’m just deer hunting so I think that’s good. So what velocity did you get with you 150 eldx?
Oh that’s with 140ttsx
I haven't test velocity yet
That last group with the 340 is a keeper, what velocity are you getting with that load?
2900 FPS
What do you think about N560 powder for your 340? I was considering trying it since I cannot find reloader 22 anywhere
Give it a try
That Weatherby is gorgeous. When do expect to blood it?
October
I got a 7mm rem mag with a 1-8 twist barrel last Christmas. It was supposed to be a 7 prc. 😢 But my wife got the wrong one online. Is the 7prc pointless to get now?
Do you reload? If you do... The 7 mag is a bit better than the 7mm PRC
Thank you @ReloadingWeatherby just barley started reloading. Need a chronograph still. But I can scratch the 7prc off my wish list. 6.8 western die shows up this week. Loaded up 7 rem mag this weekend. Can't wait to make it to the range
looks like both guns are capable for 100 yards, but no more.
Totally!
“3rd shot was a flier.”
“I wasn’t shooting very good.”
“Hadn’t liked the bullet in the past…but today it does.”
“Didn’t let the barrel cool before that 3rd shot.”
Classic phrases that 3 shot group shooters have to say to rationalize performance that is inconsistent with their expectations or previous results.
Shoot 10-20 rounds into these groups and they will quit varying so wildly and that “flier” will all of the sudden fall well within your total group size.
You shoot constantly and you think that you are pulling these wild fliers? That’s illogical. You’re not likely to be that bad of a bench rest shooter as much as you shoot.
If you are, shooting 10-20 round groups will show you really quickly what is and is not a flier. Those “2 together and 1 alone” groups are only confusing until you repeat them 3-4 times and then all of the sudden you have a circular blob that all of those shots fall into.
You’re chasing your tail. 1 month, or 10 years from now you’ll realize it and see how much time and powder you’ve been wasting. I know this because I did the same stuff and mental gymnastics for a decade or two.
I’m poor, pay for every round I shoot and still shoot 10-15 shot groups because I don’t like lying to myself.
I know I just sound douch3y, but I don’t mean it that way. Liking the the channel, just subscribed and would love to share some range time with you if you’re ever in my area.
You’re off base with the testing protocols if you are actually interested in quantifying accuracy performance of your systems and components.
I'm very familiar with group dispersion. I almost exclusively shoot magnums. Which means barrel life is shorter, powder runs out quicker, not to mention the lack of primers. If you want to use up more recourses and barrel life just to prove you have a 10 shot 1 MOA gun... all the power to you.
As for me... nah, I'm good. I appreciate you watching and subscribing
This caliber has Feeding issues? Fat cartridge. Nothing different than 7 mag that Feeds well and Ammo Everywhere. I stay 7 mag for last 43 YRS
Not in this specific gun. But I've seen the feeding issues in another gun in 300 WSM.
That term flyer is an excuse that people that don’t understand ammunition and rifles or just plain can’t shoot use to make them feel better about what they can’t explain about the groups!!
Thanks for watching Terry. Yes the "flyers" are just part of the dispersion of the group. And we both know I'm not the problem as the shooter. Tune in for next week when I shoot the 175 gr ELD-X in the 7mm WSM. I think it's going to surprise a bunch of people.