When a man spends his whole life hunting for vengeance, for blood, he finds that is all he is. When he finally has his revenge, there is nothing left of the man. That is the point of the vengeance ending.
I enjoyed it🤷🏻♂️ definitely better than the "good" ending, also now there peace of mind in him (+ PTSD, I believe thats what the attack of the ghosts was trying to point at)
@@drsoe08 Silas IS a phoney, you seriously think he killed Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? That swamp level at the end proves he was hallucinating, most of the story was bull.
IMO the revenge ending should be the canon one, Silas is beyond redemption at this point, he already killed a lot of people for finding Bob, and he has nothing to lose, the years of violence made him a cold hearted man, the revenge ending suits to the overall journey of Silas Greaves.
I like more the redemption because despite being beyond ...well....redemption I like to think that Silas could live his last days knowing that atleast after all the regrets and being tired he found the strength to spare Bob, one last sign of humanity and maybe his past self inside him after a life full of remorses because he spent most of it chasing the need to revenge turning him into a cold blooded killer, killing innocents or people who didnt had nothing to do with it, giving Silas a bit of peace . At the end of the day I dont think there is a canon ending, Its up to the player to decide what fits better for him .
No necesariamente, ya está demasiado viejo, y se dedicó a matar a criminales y forajidos (gente en extremo malvada, ya que tendían a abusar de forma desmedida de todos) Sílas ya estaba demasiado viejo y comentaba en la historia que estaba cansado de seguir siempre en ese camino Por lo que el camino de la redención es factible
It's cool how both endings, in their own way, wrap up Silas' tale so perfectly. You're either recognized as a Legend, a man who despite always having all odds against him, always came out on top. Or you're seen as a Menace, feared by all for your capacity of sending anyone who gets in your way six feet under. Both equally badass in their own ways.😮
Redemption: You've finally found your nemesis, and as you saw that he redeemed himself, you spared him. You know that killing your nemesis won't bring your brothers back. You walked out to the sunset, not caring what happens next, as you've became a legend to be told among mens. Revenge: You've finally found your nemesis, and you've killed him in a fair duel. Everyone was scared stiff, you are feared by many, as you've gunned down more man than your nemesis ever had. You walked out, having lost everything, and became a man that even legends fear.
a feared legend is still a legend🤷🏻♂️ + since they probably be feared even from his shadow they won't dare to do him like Wild Bill because they know the person that went through all this is un-killable and by attempting that they'll just get themselves few free bullets...
I played this entire game through, and having just come out of one of the toughest shootouts in the game ever, add that to the Mexican stand off in the end, in my shooter-game adrenaline I blindly picked the revenge ending. Like any other duel, I focused, I steadied, I fired. Shot Bob right between the eyes like the drunken, deceptive, two-toed snake he was before he even managed to pull out his pistol from the holster entirely. I should have felt satisfied, pumped even, as I felt like this was the ending I wanted. And in a logical sense it was, as I had gone through so much just to get to Bob and I had finally finished the bastard off. But as I watched the whole ending, watched as Silas Greaves left that saloon emptier than when he had left the bodies of his two brothers behind, my adrenaline was just...gone. Like a balloon deflated just as it had reached it's filling point. So I replayed that mission, had to do it twice because I didn't realize the finale wouldn't play if I chose that last mission from the recollection but I suppose it was some game deity's way of telling me that I needed to work twice as hard if I wanted to get the ending I wanted to see. So it was, redemption gave me no duel but it did give me a little sense of pride as Silas finally forgave Bob for the wrong he did him so many years ago, the Grey Wolf's message had finally gotten to him, to not wallow in bitterness and hate. And at last, the satisfaction I had wanted to experience was there in my heart, though it was not the satisfaction I would have gotten if I had chosen this first, it was good enough. 9/10 game. Please play it.
Haha good writing, your conclusion here definitely fits the games style. I'm already on my third playthrough because the game is so short. But therefore it feels far more condensed/cinematic than other shooters and by now the dialogs start to feel pretty classic.
I like to imagine that Silas entered that saloon with full intent to kill Ben/Bob, but after reflecting on his entire journey over booze with some kindly strangers he realizes that it would accomplish nothing and chooses instead to let go of the past and walks out into the sunlight as a new man with a new life, at peace with himself at last. Grey Wolf would be proud.
Would have been a strangely profound theme; how all it took for him to give up his revenge was a nice chat with strangers. If awaking anger and vengeance in someone comes so easy, I guess it makes sense that sometimes it's just as easy to drown out someone's anger, replace it with brief moments of joy, even if it's from something as unassuming as a nice drink with another person
Silas went his entire life living on the edge. The same kind of life Bob lived but got pushed away forcefully. It echoes the main theme that the two of them were just two sides of the same coin. As Silas double down on his revenge, he came to even hallucinate targets. He lived so long with cutthroats and violence it became a second nature to draw the gun, knowing he could get killed for even the smallest mercy. Bob, again, went the other way. He found people who took him in regardless of his past. People who took him at face value and not heavy superstition. At some point, he went from acting to actually believing in a second chance. A facade became reality. But as Silas said, there came a time both had to pay the check.
I felt bad for picking the revenge ending but I didn't really want to go through that whole story just to say to the man that killed my brothers, "Oh well your good now lets just let that slide"
It's not even about Bob, although it's nice to see he's changed his ways. SIlas sparing his life is for SIlas. The thing about revenge is that very rarely does it satisfy
tbh he did give you a lot of beer and just 1 spanish coin to pay for all of it and he said he changed ways and working as a sweet old man bartender so thats why i picked redemtion
@@shaunbanducci3883 Not only that, but he also was part of the posse that went up against the Daltons. If that didn't show how he changed in my eyes, I don't know what would have since he armed himself to fight alongside the law and protect rather than against it.
Revenge is my favorite, I tend to play games and make the choices in them the way I would make them if I were in that situation and hell, he's hunted the bastard for more than a decade, letting him live just isn't an option.
People are confused as to why redemption is considered the 'good' ending? It's because it shows actual growth as a person. There was something learned over the journey and that's, that anger and revenge don't get anything more than harm. With revenge he just goes on to carry out what everything along his path was telling him was the wrong thing to do. What's left when revenge is done? Usually either more revenge with your head wanted or regret over realizing it wasn't worth as much value as you placed on it. You either build up or you tear down. Ben left his life as Rosco "Bob" Bryant behind him trading for a more peaceful way of things instead. There's not much justice in gunning down someone who's genuinely looking to change.
that's what i really thought about the redemption ending i never chose revenge though thanks for explaining to everybody what the redemption ending actually is.
tineaus unbelievable, so if a mass murderer gets away with it for 30 years and then "changes his ways", he should be forgiven... Sounds like a distopia to me, but if you hate laws, go ahead and change them. Make "redemption" legal.
That's utter bullshit. Murder is murder, even after 30 years, regardless how much the murderer changes during that time. Silas chased Bob the whole time, just to spare him at the very end? He was Bob exactly, who made Silas relentless and violent, he changed his lifestyle for a long time. If Silas wants to destroy this self, he has to kill Bob, because he was the main reason to blaze his guns through the whole West. That's so dull.
OK ik I'm 5 years late but reading some of these comments on why people should choose the "revenge" option and not the redemption option well I get what you all are saying but some of y'all kinda dont make sense using serial killers, rapists etc and what i mean is, rapists has nothing to do with this game and maybe serial killers but not entirely sure, and yea I get it...spending 30 years going after 1 man...key word or number shall I say...1!! Man for something he did 30 years ago...dont you think after 30 years you would eventually find forgiveness for that one person as you may never find them? Well I guess not...but I'd choose the redemption ending only because I would give that 1 person on more chance to finally change...but if he messes up...then yea id see why you would want revenge but that's just me
@@aidriankingDSG I think if he wanted to go "redemption" way, he should stop killing and headhunting years ago. In 1910 he was already wreck of a man, both mentally and physically. Decision doesn't matter at that point. Imo "redemption" ending doesn't fit his psyche when he killed countless people (also counting Bob's partners) up until months ago. "Revenge" ending is actually climatic and 'terrifying' on it's own. And no, by this point he has nothing to lose. He already lost his whole life, looking for killers of his brothers.
I personally feel the revenge ending is the true ending for Silas. Man spent his whole life hunting for revenge and despite knowing it turned him into another man entirely, it's too late to turn back. What's one more body on a mountain of corpses?
something i love about gunslinger’s two ending options is that (unlike other games) both feel like choices that silas would easily make, rather than having the obvious good ending, and then the deflated, unnecessarily exaggerated bad ending. silas has both gone to hell and back to find and kill bob for killing his brothers, and slowly realized the pointlessness of his revenge, with both feeling well balanced enough for the final choice to make you genuinely think. awesome game, i wish it wasn’t as criminally underrated as it is.
No matter what ending you chose, the ending you chose describes about who you could be when you were in that circumstances like Silas's. When something happen to you and it makes you feel devastated, people suffocates you, betray you, tear you apart, done something painful to you... In the end there's only 1 of 2 things you would choose "Revenge" or "Redemption". If you do "Revenge", "Redemption" alone won't be enough to fill the void in you. If you do "Redemption", "Revenge" would be so worthless to do.
well, is actually "accurate" if you read his nugget of truth in the game, implying that Dwight had an "old cowboy" as friend and mentor when he was young.
@@Madheim777 apparently it is somewhat true, according to his wikipedia article Dwight learned hunting, fishing, cooking and card playing thanks to an illiterate named Bob Davis, but I haven't found any other mention of him or anything that confirms he was an actual cowboy.
I just finished, and i chosed redemption, i think that's the first time in a game that i make it, as you guys say, the "pointless" ending after all the character had to go through. Not for mercy, but i didn't hate "ben", i could see he really was another person now and should be spared. I killed darko in gta iv, chosed revenge in the final mission and recently killed maurice, but all of them didn't give a shit about the bad things they've done. Really amazing game by ubisoft and so cheap.
if they wanted to make us feel bad about killing bob then they should have made him say something along the lines of "well I deserve it" and not pulling his gun out in the duel, in the way they did it it felt like bob wasn't really remorseful but was only saying that to save his own life
Had just played through this game fully and got up to this point and last of us 2 came exactly to mind. Though redemption is a great choice and is the ‘good’ ending, why not enact your revenge after the countless people you’ve already killed. Since it’s based off of the old western movies and tropes, it’s really satisfying getting to end it off with a final showdown and finish what you started. The last of us 2 could’ve borrowed from this honestly.
for me is the inverse, bob lives all his life scared and running, knowing that he is prosecuted, and sees all what he had destroyed and torn apart by just one guy. Silas forgives him and also himself, knowing that at that point, Bob is nothing but a husk of his former self, being a pathetic guy who noone knows, to the point that he had to change his name and identity. Silas on the other side, is a legend and inspirational figure for guys like Dwight.
Redemption ending makes more sense to me, thinking about all people he killed at the end of his story, how the alcohol got him thinking about what grey wolf said, he decided that he WAS Bob, and Bob was Ben. So he left Ben with the coin, signifying that his quest for revenge was over
Turns out killing Bob after so long is not satisfying, anger faded out a long time ago. Plus Bob\Ben is grandpa Max from Ben10 and one year later they invented the Colt 1911 a magazine fed semi-automatic pistol, end of revolvers...
Thelonesniper101 Are you? Magazine fed firearms are much more efficient than drum loaders. It's not the "end" of revolvers but you have to agree that they're much more efficient in a firefight, you don't take too long in reloading, plus modern semi automatic pistols have mechanisms to reduce recoil a lot better than the revolvers.
Not exactly the end of revolvers actually. One big advantage that revolvers have over semi-auto is that it never jams and because of that, they were still issued to troops in both World Wars. In the case of reloading faster however? Both a yes and no. Yes because technically revolvers had to get all of it's rounds loaded in by hand, but at the same time, no because of the invention of speedloaders.
I chose redemption. he had changed, he was remorseful. he now needs to live with fact that the brother of the man he killed was bigger than himself in the end. But on the other hand... i missed out on a duel. so as far as gameplay goes, i missed out on one last bit. revenge is just more of a fun way to end the game for the player...
This game was so damn epic.I was expecting to be a fun shooter from what I saw in the Trailer,but the story was so well written that I got so caught up in this game,that I couldn't stop playing it.I finished it in like 5h the first time and the second time in like 3-4h I loved both endings,but I think I'll stick with redemption,because Ben really changed his life and everybody deserves a second chance after all.
So is it true that Ben was Bob all along as Silas Greaves knew that he was with John Kinney’s gang in the story that helped him reveal he was Bob Bryant all along?
@@shawnrichards8865 Wouldn't have expected to get a reply after 6 years but I believe so. Last time I played CoJ Gunslinger was when I made this comment :))
For such a short game it was so fun I would love to see this much love and care go into another call of Juarez easily the best in a series I already loved. (With number 3 not existing of course)
I just finished the game and went to see the redemption ending because i tried to get it but when i replayed the last mission it didnt work. I like revenge ending better,i think it suits the badass character silas greaves. And that line when he hands ben the gun "i wont have it said that i left you with nothing" so powerful mate
Man, it always depends on how do you play it. If you play it on the easiest difficulity when all you need to do is to run and shoot, then it can be too short. If you die a few times before you start to be good in this game, then it takes more time and you get more satisfaction for compleating it. In Metro Last light you can beat the game in 7 hours scoring the bad ending. If you go for the good ending that takes like 14 hours + dying time if you play on hard difficulity. But you get satisfaction
I mowed through hundreds of people, killing them with no remorse, and I considered it a lot, and I could only accept revenge, redemption is nice and all but I didn’t kill all those people just to give up now
Perhaps i ain't the bigger man but if someone killed my siblings, especially in a manner this cruel and evil, i wouldn't really just give up cause in their later years they gave up crime. For me someone who does something so twisted is beyond redemption
the game was a big fun. those dialogs of Old Silas pretending drunk and mixing things in his story. soooo funny thank you Techland for such a great game. both endings are good. but i should have chosen the redemption
personally i prefer the redemption ending. The fact that you can't run from your past sins, so they eventually will catch up to you. Silas showed that to Bob, implying that he could have killed him anytime during his stories, but chose to toy with him, and already have hunted him in a metaphorical way. Also Silas is old and tired of killing, and is not exactly a cold blooded killer, but a guy with a motivation. He somehow killed Bob, taking from him all what he had, and made him scared for his life, to the point that he had to make a new name and job, and start a new life. Killing him at that point would be just a plus, and only would add salt to the injury, leaving him with nothing productive. Instead by forgiving him and himself, he can live the rest of his life, knowing that he made justice and also inspiring a youngling (Eisenhower) to do something better than what he did.
I was really hoping in the revenge part Silas would end with him tossing the coin on Bob's cold leadfilled body, saying with an unforfild and somber voice "Let it be known I didn't leave you with nothing Bob." The coin landing on Bob's bloody chest, mixing in with his blood. Then Silas leaving without looking back. Got a bit disappointed how it actually happened. XD
Wasn't a very easy game, but damn, what a story. :-) Choosed Redemption. What would be a good story without learning its lesson? ;-) Also, who would shoot Grandpa Max? ;-)
@@ixb1zzar3xi Finished it today. I can certainly understand why poor Silas was losing his marbles by the end of it. Poor dude could've end up spending his last days shooting up ghost towns until Grey Wolf comes looking for him.
Doesn't really matter does it as I have sold my soul for it an will never again walk with those I have lost Silas greaves you are a true legend of the West
go for revenge, there wouldnt be an epid duel otherwise. try to justify it all you want, the friends ending is nonsense. Your brothers didnt get a chance of penance. Bob has been breathing far too long. The whole game sets this up, to walk away after spending a lifetime to find the bastard? not a chance
After playin the redemption ending idk if I can mentally play the revenge ending just because I love the idea of him just leaving like a bad ass redeemed Also Bob seemed like a changed man
Exactly the same here, Redemption was the way for me, but Just wanted to see the other Ending. Must say, it may be short but this game is well worth the £12 price tag. A really good buy and an amazing game to add to the series :D
These days games are always trying to show us that forgiveness is the best option, don't remember what was my first choice in this game, but when I replayed it not so long time ago I chose revenge without any hesitation as well as I didn't hesitate to shoot bandits as soon as I've heard a heartbeat because they were scumbags so any "honor" cannot be applied to them. Sylas Grieves is all about vengeance, Bob was a Dr. Frankenstein who took life of Sylas and his brothers while created a monster who had nothing else but revenge, but Sylas is old now old and about to die soon, so he should have got his vengeance in the end.
yea, just downloaded it 2 days ago and i finished it already, such a fun game :) came here to see the other enging, cuz i was too lazy to complete the last mission again :)
I would've loved for the good ending to have it's own gameplay, instead of ending abruptly. Wouldn't it have been way more epic if a local gang were to attack the town and then you and Bob would work together to protect it? Not only would've that been frickin epic but it would've also shown that Silas truly learned from his experiences, dedicating his life not to revenge, but making sure nobody gets dealt the injustices he faced when he saw his brothers get hanged... even if it meant protecting those whom wronged him in the past.
this game surprised me for low cost i got a pretty dam good game best I've played in awhile. think the last good 1 was Borderlands 2. i needed this thx Call of Juarez
death ohhhhhhhhh deeeeeath could you please spare me another yeeaaaar damn bro that song really made me cry when thy put it in the credits i wished there was more (btw i did redemption ending im still woking on the other one)
I think this game does both endings well done. You might be motivated and pumped up with adrenaline after playing the game, and especially the thrilling final level. But when you ended Bob's life, you'll probably feel wrong. With Silas declaring he has nothing left, and the bar patrons being terrified of him. I think the Redemption one feels better. Silas seems to get respected instead of feared. Bob may be alive, but his regret will hurt even deeper. And maybe the bar patrons will lose a bit of respect for him. And he will spend the rest of the days wondering, if any new patron at his bar is another one he wronged in the past, and won't be as merciful. And personally, I think Silas' fire for revenge might have died down. If it was Silas a year after his brothers' death, he would definitely have killed Bob. You might have played the game in mere hours, or maybe days, but remember, for Silas it was decades.
Letting him live was the only way to overcome the fact his brothers are dead and killing him won't bring them back. He spent his whole life trying to kill him,but after seeing how he has changed he knows that he is truly sorry for what he did and his punishment was living his life knowing how much of a murderer he was and feeling bad about what he has done. Silas letting him live let Ben feel forgiven and let himself feel forgiven for what he had done to get his revenge. People change,for better or worse.
This isn't really about what's actually happening, but what's happening in Silas' mind. A quote from the 11th chapter, "Without Forgiveness" comes to mind. "Dwight: I think you were just looking for justice, sir. Silas: Is that what i was looking for, Dwight? Is that what it was? Justice?" Silas wasn't looking for justice. He wanted revenge. And that led him to become an empty husk of a man. No family, no friends, no hobbies... Nothing. Just a need for pure vengeance. In the redemption ending, Silas hangs onto the last brink of humanity in himself and stops himself from killing Bob. He realizes that for all these years he's been waiting for this. Waiting to kill an old, tired man, Bob Bryant. Both Silas and Bob have changed. Silas from being a normal man became a murderer. Bob changed from a murderer to a normal man. By killing him, he would fulfill his sick need for vengeance, but lose himself completely. After that, he would be Silas Greaves. The man who killed hundreds of people for the purpose of getting revenge. Nothing else. Sparing him allows him to TRY to at least start a new life. It may be or not be too late to try. That's why the redemption ending is the "good" one. It puts Silas' need for revenge aside and allows him to try to grow as a person, not just increase his killcount.
This is actually, I believe, the first game in which I didn't fucking spoil myself by checking up the ending( For the first time, I didn't even know there were too endings. I strugled for like an hour before choosing which one to choose when I reached the point.) on RUclips or reading comment containing spoilers on trailers. I actually downloaded it and finished it without even checking it up on the internet, and I REALLY liked it. It was the good choice I made by playing it!
My opinion: the developers miss their mark on the ending. I say this because the revenge segment has dark music (bad/evil) and the good ending has brighter music (good/heroic). In the end, it doesn’t matter what choices you make (morality aside); what matters is following it through, and THAT (in my opinion) is what a true western is about. Having the ending be “you should feel guilty for killing/sparring the villian” makes the story “insisted upon itself”, punishing you; which sort of ruins the your mood by chastising you.
How there isn't a official OST for the music playing on the revenge ending goddamit lol, i know it's a remix from the main menu theme but damn how good it sounds
Even if i love this game, it wasn't a big thing back in the day, this game came out the same year as GTA V, it just hits harder nowadays because games made for the pure intention of fun arent made anymore...
Picking redemption gives you a good felling inside then you think yourself silly because its just a video game But this is my second favorite western game but of course red dead redemption as my first
Redemption is really the only choice for Silas to go forward. Remember the time period this is set it... the "Wild West" is over, there are no more gunslingers or cowboys, there is Law and order, police and sheriffs. Silas is an OLD MAN, he is a man of the old west, and if he can find redemption, he can spend the rest of his years at peace with himself and his choices. If you choose revenge, nothing changes for Silas... except now hes an old gunslinger with no profession, no remorse, and is probably going to go to prison for the murder of Ben/Bob. The wild west we romanticize was actually a period of only about 50 years. (while that is a long time if you live in it... its actually a very short amount of time)
im thinking the same. at that point, Silas didnt have nothing except hate and blood in his hands. Bob had to run all his life scared of Silas, who in a sort of way, took from him all what mattered, even his name and identity. Forgiving Bob, while looking contradictory on a first sight, is actually a way to end the cycle of hate and anger and put some peace on the soul of Silas, knowing that he made himself a legend known by lots of people and even inspiring people like Dwight, while on the other side, Bob is a complete strange who all his life was running and hiding. Silas can live without having to be prosecuted or jailed, Bob will keep his last days with fear and remorse of what he did, knowing that the guy who searched so many years for him could have actually killed him if he wanted, but decided to toy with him, having full power all that time.
i finished the game several times and could not make myself to choose the revenge ending, thats why im here :D srsly my current playthrough is gonna be redemtion again
I love this game! I finished it twice to get both endings, to be honest I better liked the revenge (bad) ending. I like the Call of Juarez series, the first and the second game (bound in blood) really gave me high expectations for the third one (the cartel), which was a very big disappointment for me. But gunslinger really continued the success for the series from where bound in blood stopped!! I wish they make more games like this!! Gunslinger is EPIC!!!
There was never a bad ending. To me, it seems. It all came down to the morality of the player, and the choice you’d make. You claim and finish what they started 40 years ago, or finally know that you had known what to make of it in the end.
I also prefer myself the Redemption, but, after seeing this... Or better to say, when I heard his voice change while he saith "So be it!" in the bad ending, I feel that Revenge may have been a better choice. Bob MAY NOT have changed, after all. Also, I felt bad after seeing Dwight so shocked in bad ending.
![Call of Juarez Gunslinger - Legends Never Die [Bumbles McFumbles]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0geNmXX3k8U/mqdefault.jpg)
Redemption: Walk out of the saloon, feel like a mighty god, admired by everyone.
Revenge: Walk out of the saloon, like a Bad-Ass, feared by everyone.
anyway redempttion best choice
You see, Ben, or should I say Bob, your past always catches up with ya.
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The Poncho: Red
The Brothers: Dead
The Gunslinger: Redeemed.
the best comment about silas greaves ......call of juarez gunslinger
Silas Greaves Did Ben really Change his ways like he said in the end of the game even though he was a different man back then
I just thought that Silas just bullshiting to get a free beer, until he finds BOB
Some details are fuzzy, but the main events are true.
ical survivor Hello, jack
I'd like to think of it as half the stuff is bullshit just to bait so "BOB"
lol
When a man spends his whole life hunting for vengeance, for blood, he finds that is all he is. When he finally has his revenge, there is nothing left of the man. That is the point of the vengeance ending.
yep. you summed it up perfectly.
I enjoyed it🤷🏻♂️ definitely better than the "good" ending, also now there peace of mind in him (+ PTSD, I believe thats what the attack of the ghosts was trying to point at)
But he had to tell his story.
Love how 'Revenge' shuts Jack up quick.
Revenge only keeps Jack All Silent cause he never expected a showdown in the saloon and didn’t wanna be caught up in it?
@@shawnrichards8865 He's silent because he thought Silas was a phony, but the duel proved him wrong.
@@drsoe08 Silas IS a phoney, you seriously think he killed Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? That swamp level at the end proves he was hallucinating, most of the story was bull.
Jack is the real asshole in this game 😂
IMO the revenge ending should be the canon one, Silas is beyond redemption at this point, he already killed a lot of people for finding Bob, and he has nothing to lose, the years of violence made him a cold hearted man, the revenge ending suits to the overall journey of Silas Greaves.
After playing tlou2 I agree with you.
What did the NG+ said?
I like more the redemption because despite being beyond ...well....redemption I like to think that Silas could live his last days knowing that atleast after all the regrets and being tired he found the strength to spare Bob, one last sign of humanity and maybe his past self inside him after a life full of remorses because he spent most of it chasing the need to revenge turning him into a cold blooded killer, killing innocents or people who didnt had nothing to do with it, giving Silas a bit of peace .
At the end of the day I dont think there is a canon ending, Its up to the player to decide what fits better for him .
@kingsora84Steve became the manager not the bartender
No necesariamente, ya está demasiado viejo, y se dedicó a matar a criminales y forajidos (gente en extremo malvada, ya que tendían a abusar de forma desmedida de todos)
Sílas ya estaba demasiado viejo y comentaba en la historia que estaba cansado de seguir siempre en ese camino
Por lo que el camino de la redención es factible
"I won't have it said; I left you with nothing, Bob" redemption or revenge, that line still puts chills down my spine!
The Eisenhower part made me chuckle happily, like it’s a tall tale in a tall tale
What a fantastic game for such low price!
definitely :3
perfect game perfect soundtrack everything's perfect but i'm sad that we r not gonna play more call of juarez in future ...wtf man ......
@@rogersteve2597 I think they got the rights back, so who knows.
Now its free
Downloaded today this great game lmao
[It was free]
It's cool how both endings, in their own way, wrap up Silas' tale so perfectly.
You're either recognized as a Legend, a man who despite always having all odds against him, always came out on top.
Or you're seen as a Menace, feared by all for your capacity of sending anyone who gets in your way six feet under.
Both equally badass in their own ways.😮
Redemption:
You've finally found your nemesis, and as you saw that he redeemed himself, you spared him. You know that killing your nemesis won't bring your brothers back. You walked out to the sunset, not caring what happens next, as you've became a legend to be told among mens.
Revenge:
You've finally found your nemesis, and you've killed him in a fair duel. Everyone was scared stiff, you are feared by many, as you've gunned down more man than your nemesis ever had. You walked out, having lost everything, and became a man that even legends fear.
+10
Triggernometry: A+
a feared legend is still a legend🤷🏻♂️ + since they probably be feared even from his shadow they won't dare to do him like Wild Bill because they know the person that went through all this is un-killable and by attempting that they'll just get themselves few free bullets...
He never paid for that beer
He did. With the Spanish Doubloon. "Maybe you are right, Jack. Maybe it’s time to pay."
@@Aranya1998 well yes,but actually no...
@@Aranya1998 yes in the redemption ending but not at the revenge one.......he paid him with led in his head
but Dwight told him that it would be his honor to buy him a drink and so does he.
I played this entire game through, and having just come out of one of the toughest shootouts in the game ever, add that to the Mexican stand off in the end, in my shooter-game adrenaline I blindly picked the revenge ending.
Like any other duel, I focused, I steadied, I fired. Shot Bob right between the eyes like the drunken, deceptive, two-toed snake he was before he even managed to pull out his pistol from the holster entirely.
I should have felt satisfied, pumped even, as I felt like this was the ending I wanted. And in a logical sense it was, as I had gone through so much just to get to Bob and I had finally finished the bastard off.
But as I watched the whole ending, watched as Silas Greaves left that saloon emptier than when he had left the bodies of his two brothers behind, my adrenaline was just...gone. Like a balloon deflated just as it had reached it's filling point.
So I replayed that mission, had to do it twice because I didn't realize the finale wouldn't play if I chose that last mission from the recollection but I suppose it was some game deity's way of telling me that I needed to work twice as hard if I wanted to get the ending I wanted to see.
So it was, redemption gave me no duel but it did give me a little sense of pride as Silas finally forgave Bob for the wrong he did him so many years ago, the Grey Wolf's message had finally gotten to him, to not wallow in bitterness and hate. And at last, the satisfaction I had wanted to experience was there in my heart, though it was not the satisfaction I would have gotten if I had chosen this first, it was good enough.
9/10 game. Please play it.
+TheKRAL17 Speaken out of my soul mate :)
Beautiful written.
This is some dedication. You deserves many likes partner!
Haha good writing, your conclusion here definitely fits the games style.
I'm already on my third playthrough because the game is so short. But therefore it feels far more condensed/cinematic than other shooters and by now the dialogs start to feel pretty classic.
Killing Bob is better
I like to imagine that Silas entered that saloon with full intent to kill Ben/Bob, but after reflecting on his entire journey over booze with some kindly strangers he realizes that it would accomplish nothing and chooses instead to let go of the past and walks out into the sunlight as a new man with a new life, at peace with himself at last. Grey Wolf would be proud.
Would have been a strangely profound theme; how all it took for him to give up his revenge was a nice chat with strangers. If awaking anger and vengeance in someone comes so easy, I guess it makes sense that sometimes it's just as easy to drown out someone's anger, replace it with brief moments of joy, even if it's from something as unassuming as a nice drink with another person
Silas went his entire life living on the edge. The same kind of life Bob lived but got pushed away forcefully. It echoes the main theme that the two of them were just two sides of the same coin.
As Silas double down on his revenge, he came to even hallucinate targets. He lived so long with cutthroats and violence it became a second nature to draw the gun, knowing he could get killed for even the smallest mercy.
Bob, again, went the other way. He found people who took him in regardless of his past. People who took him at face value and not heavy superstition. At some point, he went from acting to actually believing in a second chance. A facade became reality.
But as Silas said, there came a time both had to pay the check.
silas greaves the most badass gunslinger in this universe
John Marston
Roland Deschain
And then came along Arthur Morgan
@@asasons ☺
What about Caleb?
God dammned zoomers.
I felt bad for picking the revenge ending but I didn't really want to go through that whole story just to say to the man that killed my brothers, "Oh well your good now lets just let that slide"
It's not even about Bob, although it's nice to see he's changed his ways. SIlas sparing his life is for SIlas. The thing about revenge is that very rarely does it satisfy
tbh he did give you a lot of beer and just 1 spanish coin to pay for all of it and he said he changed ways and working as a sweet old man bartender so thats why i picked redemtion
*Cough* *Cough* The last of us 2 *cough* *cough*
@@shaunbanducci3883 Not only that, but he also was part of the posse that went up against the Daltons. If that didn't show how he changed in my eyes, I don't know what would have since he armed himself to fight alongside the law and protect rather than against it.
@@jeremydaly8293 you mean Americans didn't celebrate whe they gunned down Bin Laden.
Also it's a video game
I've finished the game several times and done both endings.
Never expected to see you here.
Damn hello
@@jaredboron2793 you say hello to a seven year old comment
@@JaCk-vh7yv better late than never
I prefer the Redemption ending, for me is the real ending but both endings are really great
Paid $3.75 for this, awesome game.
this game worth more but... nobody knows
@@pp4559 i know bro
got it for free on steam
I got it free to keep!
Revenge is my favorite, I tend to play games and make the choices in them the way I would make them if I were in that situation and hell, he's hunted the bastard for more than a decade, letting him live just isn't an option.
Exacly, im not going to have a tlou2 bullshit on my own campain
People are confused as to why redemption is considered the 'good' ending?
It's because it shows actual growth as a person. There was something learned over the journey and that's, that anger and revenge don't get anything more than harm.
With revenge he just goes on to carry out what everything along his path was telling him was the wrong thing to do. What's left when revenge is done? Usually either more revenge with your head wanted or regret over realizing it wasn't worth as much value as you placed on it.
You either build up or you tear down.
Ben left his life as Rosco "Bob" Bryant behind him trading for a more peaceful way of things instead. There's not much justice in gunning down someone who's genuinely looking to change.
that's what i really thought about the redemption ending i never chose revenge though thanks for explaining to everybody what the redemption ending actually is.
tineaus unbelievable, so if a mass murderer gets away with it for 30 years and then "changes his ways", he should be forgiven...
Sounds like a distopia to me, but if you hate laws, go ahead and change them. Make "redemption" legal.
That's utter bullshit. Murder is murder, even after 30 years, regardless how much the murderer changes during that time. Silas chased Bob the whole time, just to spare him at the very end? He was Bob exactly, who made Silas relentless and violent, he changed his lifestyle for a long time. If Silas wants to destroy this self, he has to kill Bob, because he was the main reason to blaze his guns through the whole West. That's so dull.
OK ik I'm 5 years late but reading some of these comments on why people should choose the "revenge" option and not the redemption option well I get what you all are saying but some of y'all kinda dont make sense using serial killers, rapists etc and what i mean is, rapists has nothing to do with this game and maybe serial killers but not entirely sure, and yea I get it...spending 30 years going after 1 man...key word or number shall I say...1!! Man for something he did 30 years ago...dont you think after 30 years you would eventually find forgiveness for that one person as you may never find them? Well I guess not...but I'd choose the redemption ending only because I would give that 1 person on more chance to finally change...but if he messes up...then yea id see why you would want revenge but that's just me
@@aidriankingDSG I think if he wanted to go "redemption" way, he should stop killing and headhunting years ago. In 1910 he was already wreck of a man, both mentally and physically. Decision doesn't matter at that point. Imo "redemption" ending doesn't fit his psyche when he killed countless people (also counting Bob's partners) up until months ago. "Revenge" ending is actually climatic and 'terrifying' on it's own. And no, by this point he has nothing to lose. He already lost his whole life, looking for killers of his brothers.
I personally feel the revenge ending is the true ending for Silas. Man spent his whole life hunting for revenge and despite knowing it turned him into another man entirely, it's too late to turn back. What's one more body on a mountain of corpses?
something i love about gunslinger’s two ending options is that (unlike other games) both feel like choices that silas would easily make, rather than having the obvious good ending, and then the deflated, unnecessarily exaggerated bad ending. silas has both gone to hell and back to find and kill bob for killing his brothers, and slowly realized the pointlessness of his revenge, with both feeling well balanced enough for the final choice to make you genuinely think.
awesome game, i wish it wasn’t as criminally underrated as it is.
Jack, after shitting on Silas throughout the game, be like, "No, sir, eh Mr. Greaves" lololol
No matter what ending you chose, the ending you chose describes about who you could be when you were in that circumstances like Silas's.
When something happen to you and it makes you feel devastated, people suffocates you, betray you, tear you apart, done something painful to you... In the end there's only 1 of 2 things you would choose "Revenge" or "Redemption".
If you do "Revenge", "Redemption" alone won't be enough to fill the void in you.
If you do "Redemption", "Revenge" would be so worthless to do.
the fact that the kid is Dwight Eisenhower for no reason is funny to me
well, is actually "accurate" if you read his nugget of truth in the game, implying that Dwight had an "old cowboy" as friend and mentor when he was young.
@@Madheim777 did he actually or did they make that up?
Probably a made-up story, but what is apparently true is that Eisenhower was a fan of Wild West and its gunfighting
@@Madheim777 apparently it is somewhat true, according to his wikipedia article Dwight learned hunting, fishing, cooking and card playing thanks to an illiterate named Bob Davis, but I haven't found any other mention of him or anything that confirms he was an actual cowboy.
@@mau7522 thank you!
I just finished, and i chosed redemption, i think that's the first time in a game that i make it, as you guys say, the "pointless" ending after all the character had to go through. Not for mercy, but i didn't hate "ben", i could see he really was another person now and should be spared. I killed darko in gta iv, chosed revenge in the final mission and recently killed maurice, but all of them didn't give a shit about the bad things they've done.
Really amazing game by ubisoft and so cheap.
The game's ending has a true moral .Most of the games nowadays don't have one....
"Do not scorn a weak cub, he may become a brutal tiger." Mongolian Proverb.
if they wanted to make us feel bad about killing bob then they should have made him say something along the lines of "well I deserve it" and not pulling his gun out in the duel, in the way they did it it felt like bob wasn't really remorseful but was only saying that to save his own life
Or if you really wanted to, you could pull your gun out before Bob did just to drive the point further.
Yeah if I had to kill him without him jot fighting back I would have actually regretted my revenge
After going through all that shit I had to kill him, forgiving him felt wrong somehow.
You know, I've got here only to say that this game has a much better revenge story than Last of Us 2.
Had just played through this game fully and got up to this point and last of us 2 came exactly to mind. Though redemption is a great choice and is the ‘good’ ending, why not enact your revenge after the countless people you’ve already killed. Since it’s based off of the old western movies and tropes, it’s really satisfying getting to end it off with a final showdown and finish what you started. The last of us 2 could’ve borrowed from this honestly.
True. lol
Yeah but imo, it feel better here in that you can actually choose.
Honestly revenge is more of a Canon ending for me cause you see coming all the way killing everyone to reach your target, sparing him is just empthy
for me is the inverse, bob lives all his life scared and running, knowing that he is prosecuted, and sees all what he had destroyed and torn apart by just one guy. Silas forgives him and also himself, knowing that at that point, Bob is nothing but a husk of his former self, being a pathetic guy who noone knows, to the point that he had to change his name and identity. Silas on the other side, is a legend and inspirational figure for guys like Dwight.
Redemption ending makes more sense to me, thinking about all people he killed at the end of his story, how the alcohol got him thinking about what grey wolf said, he decided that he WAS Bob, and Bob was Ben. So he left Ben with the coin, signifying that his quest for revenge was over
I wish red dead redemption and Call of Juarez gunslinger were in same universe.
Turns out killing Bob after so long is not satisfying, anger faded out a long time ago.
Plus Bob\Ben is grandpa Max from Ben10
and one year later they invented the Colt 1911 a magazine fed semi-automatic pistol, end of revolvers...
Sunny Price Yeah, I recognized the voice too, specially with a name like "Ben". XD
Sunny Price I recognized him as Colonel Roy Campbell from MGS.
+ectofrost you would be right. same wt the above, ben 10
Thelonesniper101 Are you? Magazine fed firearms are much more efficient than drum loaders. It's not the "end" of revolvers but you have to agree that they're much more efficient in a firefight, you don't take too long in reloading, plus modern semi automatic pistols have mechanisms to reduce recoil a lot better than the revolvers.
Not exactly the end of revolvers actually. One big advantage that revolvers have over semi-auto is that it never jams and because of that, they were still issued to troops in both World Wars.
In the case of reloading faster however? Both a yes and no. Yes because technically revolvers had to get all of it's rounds loaded in by hand, but at the same time, no because of the invention of speedloaders.
I chose redemption. he had changed, he was remorseful. he now needs to live with fact that the brother of the man he killed was bigger than himself in the end.
But on the other hand... i missed out on a duel. so as far as gameplay goes, i missed out on one last bit. revenge is just more of a fun way to end the game for the player...
This game was so damn epic.I was expecting to be a fun shooter from what I saw in the Trailer,but the story was so well written that I got so caught up in this game,that I couldn't stop playing it.I finished it in like 5h the first time and the second time in like 3-4h
I loved both endings,but I think I'll stick with redemption,because Ben really changed his life and everybody deserves a second chance after all.
So is it true that Ben was Bob all along as Silas Greaves knew that he was with John Kinney’s gang in the story that helped him reveal he was Bob Bryant all along?
@@shawnrichards8865 Wouldn't have expected to get a reply after 6 years but I believe so. Last time I played CoJ Gunslinger was when I made this comment :))
It’s so interesting how much both endings make sense. Usually there’s clearly a ‘right’ ending but this genuinely either is possible
For such a short game it was so fun I would love to see this much love and care go into another call of Juarez easily the best in a series I already loved. (With number 3 not existing of course)
Man, I regret sleeping on this game for so long. Just played it for the first time this weekend and LOVED it!
I just finished the game and went to see the redemption ending because i tried to get it but when i replayed the last mission it didnt work. I like revenge ending better,i think it suits the badass character silas greaves. And that line when he hands ben the gun "i wont have it said that i left you with nothing" so powerful mate
damn, while the revenge ending is utmost badassery to the max, the redemption ending just gives me the chills! Too freaking EPIC!!!!
Man, it always depends on how do you play it. If you play it on the easiest difficulity when all you need to do is to run and shoot, then it can be too short. If you die a few times before you start to be good in this game, then it takes more time and you get more satisfaction for compleating it.
In Metro Last light you can beat the game in 7 hours scoring the bad ending. If you go for the good ending that takes like 14 hours + dying time if you play on hard difficulity. But you get satisfaction
Steve is level headed… I bet he saw a fair share of gun duels during his younger years..
He's older than Silas, so he must have experienced the prime times of the wild west.
I mowed through hundreds of people, killing them with no remorse, and I considered it a lot, and I could only accept revenge, redemption is nice and all but I didn’t kill all those people just to give up now
Perhaps i ain't the bigger man but if someone killed my siblings, especially in a manner this cruel and evil, i wouldn't really just give up cause in their later years they gave up crime. For me someone who does something so twisted is beyond redemption
the game was a big fun. those dialogs of Old Silas pretending drunk and mixing things in his story. soooo funny thank you Techland for such a great game. both endings are good. but i should have chosen the redemption
who would knew bob was all behind all these shinanigans
personally i prefer the redemption ending. The fact that you can't run from your past sins, so they eventually will catch up to you. Silas showed that to Bob, implying that he could have killed him anytime during his stories, but chose to toy with him, and already have hunted him in a metaphorical way. Also Silas is old and tired of killing, and is not exactly a cold blooded killer, but a guy with a motivation. He somehow killed Bob, taking from him all what he had, and made him scared for his life, to the point that he had to make a new name and job, and start a new life. Killing him at that point would be just a plus, and only would add salt to the injury, leaving him with nothing productive. Instead by forgiving him and himself, he can live the rest of his life, knowing that he made justice and also inspiring a youngling (Eisenhower) to do something better than what he did.
Bruh they did a better job than Last of Us Part 2. What an ending to a surprisingly fun game
having done both of them stories, i will just sat to be continued.
I was really hoping in the revenge part Silas would end with him tossing the coin on Bob's cold leadfilled body, saying with an unforfild and somber voice "Let it be known I didn't leave you with nothing Bob." The coin landing on Bob's bloody chest, mixing in with his blood. Then Silas leaving without looking back. Got a bit disappointed how it actually happened. XD
Wasn't a very easy game, but damn, what a story. :-)
Choosed Redemption.
What would be a good story without learning its lesson? ;-)
Also, who would shoot Grandpa Max? ;-)
"Wasn't a very easy game" you can say that again
@@ixb1zzar3xi Finished it today. I can certainly understand why poor Silas was losing his marbles by the end of it. Poor dude could've end up spending his last days shooting up ghost towns until Grey Wolf comes looking for him.
I liked the redemption ending better since it doesn't make you play the fucking duel minigame again.
Casper Dar yeah, when i lose, they will think that i'm a liar, or a guy that seems tougher in his tales
feel bad after killing him tho
ical survivor even it was revenge for killing brothers, i prefer redemption instead
Doesn't really matter does it as I have sold my soul for it an will never again walk with those I have lost Silas greaves you are a true legend of the West
go for revenge, there wouldnt be an epid duel otherwise. try to justify it all you want, the friends ending is nonsense. Your brothers didnt get a chance of penance.
Bob has been breathing far too long. The whole game sets this up, to walk away after spending a lifetime to find the bastard? not a chance
lol Ben/Bob had the same voice as Colonel Campbell from Metal Gear Solid
When Bob says that's how you want it so be it that proves he hasn't changed
He did change. He feels guilty for killing Silas's brothers so he doesn’t beg for mercy and grants him a duel because he thinks he deserves to be dead
After playin the redemption ending idk if I can mentally play the revenge ending just because I love the idea of him just leaving like a bad ass redeemed
Also Bob seemed like a changed man
Exactly the same here, Redemption was the way for me, but Just wanted to see the other Ending. Must say, it may be short but this game is well worth the £12 price tag. A really good buy and an amazing game to add to the series :D
Silas greaves......a true legend
These days games are always trying to show us that forgiveness is the best option, don't remember what was my first choice in this game, but when I replayed it not so long time ago I chose revenge without any hesitation as well as I didn't hesitate to shoot bandits as soon as I've heard a heartbeat because they were scumbags so any "honor" cannot be applied to them. Sylas Grieves is all about vengeance, Bob was a Dr. Frankenstein who took life of Sylas and his brothers while created a monster who had nothing else but revenge, but Sylas is old now old and about to die soon, so he should have got his vengeance in the end.
yea, just downloaded it 2 days ago and i finished it already, such a fun game :) came here to see the other enging, cuz i was too lazy to complete the last mission again :)
Our destiny is what we choose it to be you go and your soul will follow to heaven or hell
Man, I wish Dwight D. Eisenhower was real
I chose the revenge option and I think I did not the good choice but the right choice.
I would've loved for the good ending to have it's own gameplay, instead of ending abruptly. Wouldn't it have been way more epic if a local gang were to attack the town and then you and Bob would work together to protect it? Not only would've that been frickin epic but it would've also shown that Silas truly learned from his experiences, dedicating his life not to revenge, but making sure nobody gets dealt the injustices he faced when he saw his brothers get hanged... even if it meant protecting those whom wronged him in the past.
Mfw the voice actor that voices Silas Greaves is the same one who voiced Canderous Ordo in KOTOR I & II
this game surprised me for low cost i got a pretty dam good game best I've played in awhile. think the last good 1 was Borderlands 2. i needed this thx Call of Juarez
death ohhhhhhhhh deeeeeath could you please spare me another yeeaaaar
damn bro that song really made me cry when thy put it in the credits i wished there was more
(btw i did redemption ending im still woking on the other one)
I think this game does both endings well done. You might be motivated and pumped up with adrenaline after playing the game, and especially the thrilling final level. But when you ended Bob's life, you'll probably feel wrong. With Silas declaring he has nothing left, and the bar patrons being terrified of him.
I think the Redemption one feels better. Silas seems to get respected instead of feared. Bob may be alive, but his regret will hurt even deeper. And maybe the bar patrons will lose a bit of respect for him. And he will spend the rest of the days wondering, if any new patron at his bar is another one he wronged in the past, and won't be as merciful.
And personally, I think Silas' fire for revenge might have died down. If it was Silas a year after his brothers' death, he would definitely have killed Bob. You might have played the game in mere hours, or maybe days, but remember, for Silas it was decades.
Redemption: You kill all my brother, but you can go, i forgive you. WTF
Revenge: Justice is served
Letting him live was the only way to overcome the fact his brothers are dead and killing him won't bring them back. He spent his whole life trying to kill him,but after seeing how he has changed he knows that he is truly sorry for what he did and his punishment was living his life knowing how much of a murderer he was and feeling bad about what he has done. Silas letting him live let Ben feel forgiven and let himself feel forgiven for what he had done to get his revenge. People change,for better or worse.
This isn't really about what's actually happening, but what's happening in Silas' mind.
A quote from the 11th chapter, "Without Forgiveness" comes to mind.
"Dwight: I think you were just looking for justice, sir.
Silas: Is that what i was looking for, Dwight? Is that what it was? Justice?"
Silas wasn't looking for justice. He wanted revenge. And that led him to become an empty husk of a man. No family, no friends, no hobbies... Nothing. Just a need for pure vengeance.
In the redemption ending, Silas hangs onto the last brink of humanity in himself and stops himself from killing Bob. He realizes that for all these years he's been waiting for this. Waiting to kill an old, tired man, Bob Bryant.
Both Silas and Bob have changed. Silas from being a normal man became a murderer. Bob changed from a murderer to a normal man. By killing him, he would fulfill his sick need for vengeance, but lose himself completely. After that, he would be Silas Greaves. The man who killed hundreds of people for the purpose of getting revenge.
Nothing else. Sparing him allows him to TRY to at least start a new life. It may be or not be too late to try.
That's why the redemption ending is the "good" one. It puts Silas' need for revenge aside and allows him to try to grow as a person, not just increase his killcount.
don't forget to add ending finale theme song in the good bad and ugly while facing him
one of the few games where i like both endings
I like revenge end better
not me
This is actually, I believe, the first game in which I didn't fucking spoil myself by checking up the ending( For the first time, I didn't even know there were too endings. I strugled for like an hour before choosing which one to choose when I reached the point.) on RUclips or reading comment containing spoilers on trailers. I actually downloaded it and finished it without even checking it up on the internet, and I REALLY liked it. It was the good choice I made by playing it!
I prefer the redemption
My opinion: the developers miss their mark on the ending. I say this because the revenge segment has dark music (bad/evil) and the good ending has brighter music (good/heroic).
In the end, it doesn’t matter what choices you make (morality aside); what matters is following it through, and THAT (in my opinion) is what a true western is about. Having the ending be “you should feel guilty for killing/sparring the villian” makes the story “insisted upon itself”, punishing you; which sort of ruins the your mood by chastising you.
How there isn't a official OST for the music playing on the revenge ending goddamit lol, i know it's a remix from the main menu theme but damn how good it sounds
Why the hell would you EVER let this guy get away with multiple murders just because he gave up on murdering people?
Best cowboy Game for a 2011 game
2013
Jack calls you a liar, and you have to re-start the duel.
really, all of you, revenge!!, pray for your souls, you need to learn what forgiveness mean.
Forgive to a mass murderer? Who humiliated and killed your brothers? Are u serious?
Why is it every time there is a game with a good and bad ending everyone gets confused on how the bad ending is bad and the good one is good?
Cos humanity is pretty crazy on average.
when i first heard about his brothers i thought it was the brother from COJ Bound in Blood
me to but than i understood is totaly another story
musat marin
1. They look nothing like Thomas and Ray.
2. Both McCall brothers die in the first CoJ.
pepper Mill i got it already xD
musat marin just saying why people can't really come to that conclusion.
Love this game, but I chose revenge, I won't spare a man I been hunting my whole life for he needa die.
redemption is good end
Agreed
this game is a masterpiece! i wonder why it sold so bad...
Even if i love this game, it wasn't a big thing back in the day, this game came out the same year as GTA V, it just hits harder nowadays because games made for the pure intention of fun arent made anymore...
One of the underrated gem game
I knew Bob was ben because silus says"your past catches up to you doesnt it ben" in a level
Picking redemption gives you a good felling inside then you think yourself silly because its just a video game But this is my second favorite western game but of course red dead redemption as my first
this plot twist actually surprised me on my first playthrough
Redemption ending is the best for me.
Redemption is really the only choice for Silas to go forward. Remember the time period this is set it... the "Wild West" is over, there are no more gunslingers or cowboys, there is Law and order, police and sheriffs. Silas is an OLD MAN, he is a man of the old west, and if he can find redemption, he can spend the rest of his years at peace with himself and his choices. If you choose revenge, nothing changes for Silas... except now hes an old gunslinger with no profession, no remorse, and is probably going to go to prison for the murder of Ben/Bob. The wild west we romanticize was actually a period of only about 50 years. (while that is a long time if you live in it... its actually a very short amount of time)
im thinking the same. at that point, Silas didnt have nothing except hate and blood in his hands. Bob had to run all his life scared of Silas, who in a sort of way, took from him all what mattered, even his name and identity.
Forgiving Bob, while looking contradictory on a first sight, is actually a way to end the cycle of hate and anger and put some peace on the soul of Silas, knowing that he made himself a legend known by lots of people and even inspiring people like Dwight, while on the other side, Bob is a complete strange who all his life was running and hiding. Silas can live without having to be prosecuted or jailed, Bob will keep his last days with fear and remorse of what he did, knowing that the guy who searched so many years for him could have actually killed him if he wanted, but decided to toy with him, having full power all that time.
The stories in all these games have been pretty good. This one is the best though.
i finished the game several times and could not make myself to choose the revenge ending, thats why im here :D srsly my current playthrough is gonna be redemtion again
Sure, he met all the big outlaws and even eisenhower, who spends his evenings in some bars at his age..
Redemption is always a good thing.
I love this game! I finished it twice to get both endings, to be honest I better liked the revenge (bad) ending. I like the Call of Juarez series, the first and the second game (bound in blood) really gave me high expectations for the third one (the cartel), which was a very big disappointment for me. But gunslinger really continued the success for the series from where bound in blood stopped!! I wish they make more games like this!! Gunslinger is EPIC!!!
There was never a bad ending. To me, it seems. It all came down to the morality of the player, and the choice you’d make. You claim and finish what they started 40 years ago, or finally know that you had known what to make of it in the end.
I also prefer myself the Redemption, but, after seeing this... Or better to say, when I heard his voice change while he saith "So be it!" in the bad ending, I feel that Revenge may have been a better choice. Bob MAY NOT have changed, after all. Also, I felt bad after seeing Dwight so shocked in bad ending.