Yesss it's refreshing to see more videos that actually call it out instead of just putting it as the top 1 of worst shiny and saying how "The mega/Gigamax form had a better shiny" they basically fixed a problem that they made themselves XD Plus I don't think that white gengar looks that good tbh
@@saphirestorm7952I’d take edgy over goofy purples and green. I guess it’s just personal preference but the black shiny looks sleek and you can’t really go wrong.
@@THGMR-ox7sd Purple and green is one of my favorite colorschemes and is commonly seen on many characters, it also helps it look more friendly to possible prey which makes it easier for it to hunt while edgy doesn't help that at all
Shiny Igglybuff actually has a really good sprite in Pokemon Ranger, of all things. Despite neither it nor shinies being in that game, shiny sprites including for the scrapped Igglybuff were found in the data and it has green eyes like the rest of its line’s shinies and looks really good.
Are you kidding me? It got green eyes like the rest of the line’s shinies in a game where it’s unused sprites. Is it that hard to just change the eyes in the mainline games?
Shiny Gengar actually had a different shiny in a pokemon arcade game and a mobile game that was a sick greenish blue I’ll look for the game name and edit this when I find it Edit: it was Pokemon Duel
Honestly all they’d have to do to fix gengar’s shiny is just make him more closer to black, like a shadow They did do the same thing for combusken’s shiny so…
Someone understands why I say gengar is my favourite shiny i always have to explain this happy to see I’m not the only one who thinks this shiny is not bad
@@raigrex8362 The shiny wasn't bad early on, but it became worse over time with the loss of normal Gengar's Color. It was still kinda bad back then, but it wasn't garbage.
What I find interesting is that for garchomp, it had the reverse effect. Now, it still isn't super different due to their skin tones and lighting in some areas, but the difference is way more noticeable in the 3D games than in the sprite games.
Agreed! But it’s often mentioned as one of the subtle shinies (even though it really wasn’t subtle in Gen 4) and I couldn’t think of another one to put there at the time 😅
I used to love shiny haunted because some of the 2D sprites would have a blue aura around the hands, sadly they never added that when they made the transition to 3D. I don’t blame them, but it really ruined the shiny for me.
I have always thought that shiny gengar is a lot less subtle then people say, but when i saw the purple eyes i knew that would make it a lot better today.
The same thing also just happened with Gastly’s model in Scarlet and Violet. It used to be an awesome high-contrast difference of darker purple vs lighter blue. SV changed regular Gastly’s surrounding mist to be more washed out and blueish so, combined with how significantly lighting affects Pokémon in those games, its shiny now looks barely different :(
I love the old bright purple Gengar but the straight up black Gengar from Gen1 and Gen2 was my favorite, made him look like an actual evil shadow creature haha
It’s actually a problem a lot of people complain about, being that the move to 3D desaturated almost every Pokémon’s colors. Pretty much every vibrant color was brought down significantly.
The problem is also the 3D games themselves. For SOME reason they just, dulled a lot of colours when going from sprites to 3D models, making some shinies, like Gengar here, worse b/c they look so close to the non shiny. You are allowed to have vibrantly coloured models guys! It's not a bad thing!
resaturate the base sprite’s purples and reds and make the pink eyes on shiny gengar brighter, and the whole problem is solved and it’s a really solid shiny
The Volcanion movie had an even better color for Shiny Gengar. It was a light navy blueish color(which appeared in multiple spin off games such as Pokémon Duel and Pokémon Tretta).
I thought I noticed some of the pokemon looking duller in the newer games, but I didn't know it was actually a thing. I really hope they fix this at some point.
Gengar in modern games really just needs to be as vibrantly colored as Ash's. Since his looked way different from the desaturated Gengars we've seen in the last like ten years. That way the shiny variant will actually look different in comparison.
To me it looks like both changed over time, not just the regular. The shiny looked almost black in 2D but in 3D games it looks purple and the regular also looks purple but desaturated.
Justice for shiny Gengar! GF did the regular Gengar dirty. I wish they made sure every shiny stands out among their regular form. It pains me to see cool Pokémon don’t get the noticeable shiny treatment. 😢
THANK YOU! I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS! Shiny gengar was actually sick! I feel the same about shiny glaceon too, actually, though I know many that disagree. It was super pretty back in gen 4. The bright white and crystal blue was perfect!
Pokémon were often saturated in the 2d era due to many sprites having legacy traits of when Pokémon was on consoles on non back-lit or poor quality screens
In this case, I'd say that the shiny should become a stronger shade of grey in order to compensate. Though, it still sucks that Gengar is no longer as vibrant as before.
See, I like Gengar having that warmer purple, but I also like the cooler purple it has now, and now I'm thinking that Pokemon should have broader ranges of color, like with some actual variation that isn't just the shinies
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYINNNN people don't wanna admit that the problems started progressing in the sprite games though!! Others have brought up Regice, and that's another major one. I'm so glad we as a society are finally starting to examine the shiny opinions/preconceptions that were cultivated in 2016 and have remained unchallenged since
Hey shiny Glaceon is good! Sure maybe it’s a bit hard to notice at first but it’s a much lighter color for the main body, almost a white color whereas regular glaceon is aquamarine in color. And the crown on her head is a beautiful shade of light blue compared to a darker blue on the regular. Lastly, the markings, tips of the ears, and end of the tail are a gorgeous deep navy blue compare to another shade of aquamarine on the regular colors. It’s a subtle difference but I think the colors are so gorgeous and mesh perfectly to make a really nice shiny
EXACTLY this is the case for a handful of pokes with "bad shinies" like honestly if gamefreak was consistent with their coloring wetd have a lot less of these issues.
Gengar's shiny is actually pretty good when you can see more tones of different colors 😃👍. I genuenly can perfectly see both gengars like black and white just 'cause I have an extra cone and I just love my smiley ghosty 😎
I think they should either fix regular gengar back to how it was before or take shiny gengar and make it a full on black or possibly a navy blue sorta shiny
I cannot understand for the life of me why they changed his colors… I loved the original non shiny gengar’s bright and saturated purple, it was a very beautiful shade. I’m mad they changed it
It’s the same thing with Glaceon. In DPP - BW it has a beautiful whiteish blue body, with brighter blue on the ears with the tips being a darker shade. But once it got to 3D it completely was color washed :(
I never understood why they didn't make his shiny straigh up black or just a dark gray with no purple in the 3d transition, instead of having almost the same colour (precisely because of the saturation problem) and i personally think it got a little worse with SV's lighting system, where unless you're manually checking every gastly or haunter, it's basically imposible to differentiate them from the shiny (i know haunter's mouth is blue in the shiny, but its still really hard to notice it if you're not shiny hunting)
FINALLY someone understands!
Honey what do you mean finally? The community’s been calling this out for years
Yesss it's refreshing to see more videos that actually call it out instead of just putting it as the top 1 of worst shiny and saying how "The mega/Gigamax form had a better shiny" they basically fixed a problem that they made themselves XD
Plus I don't think that white gengar looks that good tbh
Pokemon fans have been calling out colour desaturation for years, wdym finally?
@bluesylveon This is what I wanted to say
Same problem with regice :(
Yeah
Poor Regice
Wait… It has a shiny?
@@Fizazzz😂😂😂😂
@@Fizazzzevery Pokémon does- you just can’t get all of the shinies
You know what? That's a very fair assessment. This is why you don't fuck around with how pokemon look.
unless their called Charizard
They've been slightly changing how the Pokemon look forever now. Compare Venusaur in SV to SwSh for example
Also don't change how shinies look, they butchered my favorite shiny (charizard's) and now it looks like an edgy 11 year old's killer oc
@@saphirestorm7952I’d take edgy over goofy purples and green. I guess it’s just personal preference but the black shiny looks sleek and you can’t really go wrong.
@@THGMR-ox7sd Purple and green is one of my favorite colorschemes and is commonly seen on many characters, it also helps it look more friendly to possible prey which makes it easier for it to hunt while edgy doesn't help that at all
It was also extremely good in gold, silver, and crystal! The eyes being such a vibrant pink worked incredibly well!
Shiny Igglybuff actually has a really good sprite in Pokemon Ranger, of all things. Despite neither it nor shinies being in that game, shiny sprites including for the scrapped Igglybuff were found in the data and it has green eyes like the rest of its line’s shinies and looks really good.
There are shines in that game???
@@A_rare_pongping No, they were scrapped in development but the sprites are still in the code.
@@twilightjoltik3151 oh
Are you kidding me? It got green eyes like the rest of the line’s shinies in a game where it’s unused sprites.
Is it that hard to just change the eyes in the mainline games?
Somebody at GameFreak has to have a vendetta for all this shinies changing and then continuing the barely noticeable shinies especially to this day.
That makes so much more sense! Shiny Mega Gengar slays!
Shiny Gengar actually had a different shiny in a pokemon arcade game and a mobile game that was a sick greenish blue
I’ll look for the game name and edit this when I find it
Edit: it was Pokemon Duel
its not an arcade game but maybe youre thinking of stadium?
@@asher3311 nah it was an arcade game I know it
@@asher3311 There actually is an arcade game where Gengar, along with several other pokémon, has a different shiny.
He's black in battle revolution which is cool
In Pokémon Shuffle, it's blue like Shiny Gastly!
When you look at the different sprites and 3d models over the generations you see much more vibrant they were back in the GBA games
Honestly all they’d have to do to fix gengar’s shiny is just make him more closer to black, like a shadow
They did do the same thing for combusken’s shiny so…
Ironic you'd mention shadows since gengars colloseum/XD gale of darkness shiny is just that, jet black.
@@pineappleudh6561 yeah I always assumed that was what shiny gengar was always supposed to be! A shadow shiny just fits it too well
I think the shiny gengar is perfectly fine in scarlet/violet
It looks so basic wdym lol @@bulbaa2241
@bulbaa2241
SV certainly has helped making certain hard to notice shinies a bit more distinct, still wouldn't say its particularly good though.
Someone understands why I say gengar is my favourite shiny i always have to explain this happy to see I’m not the only one who thinks this shiny is not bad
The shiny is still garbage
@@raigrex8362 The shiny wasn't bad early on, but it became worse over time with the loss of normal Gengar's Color. It was still kinda bad back then, but it wasn't garbage.
Off topic but NEEDY STREAMER OVERLOAD OST BACKGROUND MUSIC???? I exploded
THAT'S where I recognized it from omg
i love shiny glaceon too, i thinker the darker blues are perfect
Gengar is just doing its job, being spoopy
Interesting perspective, considering how regular Pokémon sprites change color over generations!
What I find interesting is that for garchomp, it had the reverse effect. Now, it still isn't super different due to their skin tones and lighting in some areas, but the difference is way more noticeable in the 3D games than in the sprite games.
Aight imma say this from now, shiny educational Catherine is something we need, wether it's videos or shorts, hope you'll do more of this
Shiny glaceon is good imo
Agreed! But it’s often mentioned as one of the subtle shinies (even though it really wasn’t subtle in Gen 4) and I couldn’t think of another one to put there at the time 😅
Agreed. Glaceon has one of the best subtle shinies out there.
I used to love shiny haunted because some of the 2D sprites would have a blue aura around the hands, sadly they never added that when they made the transition to 3D. I don’t blame them, but it really ruined the shiny for me.
These episodes are quite honestly the best part of my Sundays.
Shiny mega Gengar is one of my favorite shiny.
Gengar is one of my all time favorite shiny designs!!!
In its mega form
I have always thought that shiny gengar is a lot less subtle then people say, but when i saw the purple eyes i knew that would make it a lot better today.
super interesting! that first shiny gengsr sprite looks like some haunted statue or something i really like it
The same thing also just happened with Gastly’s model in Scarlet and Violet. It used to be an awesome high-contrast difference of darker purple vs lighter blue. SV changed regular Gastly’s surrounding mist to be more washed out and blueish so, combined with how significantly lighting affects Pokémon in those games, its shiny now looks barely different :(
I hope one day they make all the pokemon as vibrant as they once were
Pokemon that you can't never unsee
Exactly! I really wish they brought back original bright ol purpink gengar :(
Now the most noticeable detail is that it has a blue tongue when it opens it's mouth
I vote we remedy this by making shiny Gengar oversaturated purple like regular Gengar was before
Gengar went from arms up ready to spook someone, to arms out at sides like it's sneaking around, to just being tired.
Shiny Gengar does actually look better than people give it credit for.
It doesn't
@@raigrex8362 Says you. You're just salty, cause I'm not siding with you and other people that are incorrect.
😮😮 I never knew Gengar used to look like that! It looks so much better with the bright reddish purple!! 💜
Mark and Dewey’s VA’s voice Donnie and Leo in Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. No wonder their minds are wired the same way; they’re twins.
Someone finally brings this up! Everyone who talks about bad shinies always forgets about this.
I love the old bright purple Gengar but the straight up black Gengar from Gen1 and Gen2 was my favorite, made him look like an actual evil shadow creature haha
Shiny gengar does have the pretty sick white mega shiny (and the same for g-max, if you didn’t know!)
It’s actually a problem a lot of people complain about, being that the move to 3D desaturated almost every Pokémon’s colors. Pretty much every vibrant color was brought down significantly.
I UNDERSTAND!! But you gotta admire shiny mega gengar
I hope the 3d games fix this and make the models more vibrant in color again or make the shinies stand out more.
I still really hope that they bring back Haunter's hand glow with an outline effect at every angle type of effect.
The problem is also the 3D games themselves. For SOME reason they just, dulled a lot of colours when going from sprites to 3D models, making some shinies, like Gengar here, worse b/c they look so close to the non shiny.
You are allowed to have vibrantly coloured models guys! It's not a bad thing!
The old vibrant purple color suits gengar more because of its poison typing
This is the problem for a LOT of Pokémon. Especially pikachu. AND charmander in scarlet and violet.
I say the same thing about regice. It looked so much more cooler and noticeable in the sprite games.
Pokémon had a rough transition to 3d
resaturate the base sprite’s purples and reds and make the pink eyes on shiny gengar brighter, and the whole problem is solved and it’s a really solid shiny
Another case of "shadows screw me over" form shiny hunting
"But with everyone shiny, no one will be"
once upon a time...
The Volcanion movie had an even better color for Shiny Gengar. It was a light navy blueish color(which appeared in multiple spin off games such as Pokémon Duel and Pokémon Tretta).
funnily enough, the exact opposite of this happened to Garchomp, and bro goes hard in gen 9
I thought I noticed some of the pokemon looking duller in the newer games, but I didn't know it was actually a thing. I really hope they fix this at some point.
Yeah, they muted the colors for a lot of the pokemon when it went 3D which I don't know why
They made up for it with the mega so it's chill
Leafeon: Allow me to introduce myself
Gengar in modern games really just needs to be as vibrantly colored as Ash's. Since his looked way different from the desaturated Gengars we've seen in the last like ten years. That way the shiny variant will actually look different in comparison.
The loss of vibrant colors has my biggest gripe with the 3D games.
Gengar got the 🖕🏽During the further generations. 😭
Pokémon ended up losing so much of its vibrancy and color when it transitioned to 3D and I have no clue why.
Gengar mega form laughing at normal gengar
To me it looks like both changed over time, not just the regular.
The shiny looked almost black in 2D but in 3D games it looks purple and the regular also looks purple but desaturated.
i didn't even realize! that's really cool
Justice for shiny Gengar! GF did the regular Gengar dirty. I wish they made sure every shiny stands out among their regular form. It pains me to see cool Pokémon don’t get the noticeable shiny treatment. 😢
THANK YOU! I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS! Shiny gengar was actually sick!
I feel the same about shiny glaceon too, actually, though I know many that disagree. It was super pretty back in gen 4. The bright white and crystal blue was perfect!
The Gen 1 Yellow Sprite was awesome.
Pokémon were often saturated in the 2d era due to many sprites having legacy traits of when Pokémon was on consoles on non back-lit or poor quality screens
What they need to do then is to make the vibrant purple gengar the shiny... or restore saturation
Shiny Mega Gengar is so heckin pretty tho 😩
In this case, I'd say that the shiny should become a stronger shade of grey in order to compensate. Though, it still sucks that Gengar is no longer as vibrant as before.
Same goes to Garchomp, but the opposite. In 3D, specially in Scarlet, the shiny looks damn good!
The same thing happened ro Jigglypuff too. The only thing that's different now is the eye color.
I'm glad my favorite Pokemon is getting talked about
Gengar is my number one favorite Pokemon in the world 💜💜💜😈✨🥰
Tbf it felt like a lot of pokemon in general were desaturated in x and y
You've got a point. But Mega Gengar's shiny is top class and it just feels like we could have had so much more.
Shiny catherine implies there are normal catherine, and possibly even regional catherines around the world, along with other shinies aswell.
See, I like Gengar having that warmer purple, but I also like the cooler purple it has now, and now I'm thinking that Pokemon should have broader ranges of color, like with some actual variation that isn't just the shinies
They really need to give the pokemon their vibrant colors back
THANK YOU. tbh i still think gengar should be near full black with purple accents like he was in the beginning. That’s still peak gengar.
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYINNNN people don't wanna admit that the problems started progressing in the sprite games though!! Others have brought up Regice, and that's another major one. I'm so glad we as a society are finally starting to examine the shiny opinions/preconceptions that were cultivated in 2016 and have remained unchallenged since
I wish they made the shiny more purple red, as if they swapped places
Exactly I wish they'd keep the saturation up😤
Hey shiny Glaceon is good! Sure maybe it’s a bit hard to notice at first but it’s a much lighter color for the main body, almost a white color whereas regular glaceon is aquamarine in color. And the crown on her head is a beautiful shade of light blue compared to a darker blue on the regular. Lastly, the markings, tips of the ears, and end of the tail are a gorgeous deep navy blue compare to another shade of aquamarine on the regular colors. It’s a subtle difference but I think the colors are so gorgeous and mesh perfectly to make a really nice shiny
EXACTLY this is the case for a handful of pokes with "bad shinies" like honestly if gamefreak was consistent with their coloring wetd have a lot less of these issues.
Yeah! I love shiny gengar! It adds to the gosty spookyness with the dull colors better than the white in my opinion and it just makes it so adorable:)
Gengar's shiny is actually pretty good when you can see more tones of different colors 😃👍. I genuenly can perfectly see both gengars like black and white just 'cause I have an extra cone and I just love my smiley ghosty 😎
I've just made a amigurumi gengar and chose a warmer purple, I think I chose because of that memory a didn't realize till now
I’m glad they’re fixing Garchomp
Personally I liked the Gastly line in Gen 1 and 2, with black and pointy designs.
I still want it to be the same as Shiny Mega Gengar lol
This is actually the reason I'm aiming to hunt one in gold and FRLG!
tynamo needs more love
Honestly Shiny Glaceon has been growing on me, I feel the colors work better? The white fur looks better and works for its Ice typing.
I think they should either fix regular gengar back to how it was before or take shiny gengar and make it a full on black or possibly a navy blue sorta shiny
It’s not the different people’s fault it’s the normal people’s fault
-mr potato and shiny Cathren
I cannot understand for the life of me why they changed his colors… I loved the original non shiny gengar’s bright and saturated purple, it was a very beautiful shade. I’m mad they changed it
It’s the same thing with Glaceon. In DPP - BW it has a beautiful whiteish blue body, with brighter blue on the ears with the tips being a darker shade. But once it got to 3D it completely was color washed :(
I never understood why they didn't make his shiny straigh up black or just a dark gray with no purple in the 3d transition, instead of having almost the same colour (precisely because of the saturation problem) and i personally think it got a little worse with SV's lighting system, where unless you're manually checking every gastly or haunter, it's basically imposible to differentiate them from the shiny (i know haunter's mouth is blue in the shiny, but its still really hard to notice it if you're not shiny hunting)
I wish they kept the vibrant colors in the 3d games :[
I totally agree!