1968 Porsche 911 With Tesla Power | EV Show
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- What happens when you put Tesla performance in a vintage Porsche 911? In this episode we do a full walk through of a 1968 Porsche 911 in which we installed our bolt-in Tesla subframe. This car was recently given away by Omaze to benefit the Petersen Automotive Museum. We go through all the components of the conversion and take this little hot rod for a drive.
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Is the Delorean getting Tesla swapped? Would be nice 👍
Well, he better come up with a solution for the required 1.21 Gigawatts!
Yes
I noticed that as well!
Yes, it is. We have another episode on it, and more coming soon.
@@EVWest thank you
SLCS ... :-)))) BTW I haven't seen your channel before, but you deal with really great stuff, so I subscribed (with the bell icon). You should do videos more frequently, I'm sure there will be plenty more interested viewers. All the best, ... greetings from Hungary, Europe! ;-)
Holy hell. 400 kW motor!?
I wish I could do this to my is300🥺.... money too low tho lol
I hope EV-conversions will be a lot more common and affordable in the future.
Of course they will. Probably drop 50% in 5 years.
i hope they dont
I think this really shows the conundrum that the automotive world is going through. I simply adore old 911s, and the sounds are a HUGE part of the appeal, especially one with some slight tuning. It will NEVER be as fast or reliable as this modern car - but that isn't the only reason people buy these. I'm really torn. The power, simplicity and sheer HOLY @$#!$%# factor is just huge! But man, running a weber-equipped 911 through a tunnel is something that you'll never understand in a car that goes WZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
I love my VWs mostly for the engine sound but I guess you can't have your 🍰 n eat it🤠
Nice video. I hope there’ll be a video once that Delorean is complete. That would be back to the future. 😉
Sorry , just prefer classic cars to be left alone . In years to come people will be hunting around for the original engine. It’s clever but not in a classic 🙂
This shell was actually trashed and the engine blown. Petersen automotive museum rebuilt it before handing it to the Omaze contest as a fundraiser.
Great production on this episode, Michael. Super engineering on the componentry. I see a time when every cool car worth preserving has its own EV conversion kit. Nice work!
Destroy an old Porsche 911 100%! What a bad joke!
We found the salty purist
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td There are quite a few "salty purists" who actually realise that the EV hype is exactly that: Hype. Comparing that flat 6 to something that sounds like a hairdryer is just insulting
@@TheBlaert The performance is real it's no hype and the sound is a trade off for virtually no maintenance.
Now I hear you with that mic 😉 The show is much better! Keep the good work!
Thanks for hanging in there!
Would like to see how this does in a slalom test vs the OG car given the added weight and where that mass is located at the ends of the car.
Great that somebody's done it now lets leave all other 911's alone.
Eduard Walhout .. Agreed. .. Signed, A "98 Carrera 2S owner.
I know!!! But unfortunately, eventually those old magnesium cases will be trash.
I sold my Austin Healey Sprite bugeye twenty five years ago and I now with electric motors makes me think of all the possibilities.
so many videos have overpowering "music". thanks for doing a good job of the car and the explanation.
Eric Jenkins Agreed. The result was I listened to every word.
it's not a 911 anymore if you rip the heart out
Where's the air-cooled 6cly Varoooom?
OMG yes yes yes. Audio and music levels are perfect. LOVE IT. This is how it should be. Most excellent.
Thank you!
@@EVWest As a first time watcher, the microphone and audio mix is really impressive. Gives the channel an extremely legitimate feel.
I really want a EV Dorian, or hub motor kit so my Bug will be 4WD with on board charging , that would beat the 03 prest like desil/electric
This is awesome, may I know how much the retrofit cost?
I think car included it’s worth like 175k to 250k
The retrofit is listed on their site for $12k.
Scratch the above, that is not Tesla stuff and does not include batteries.
Customers are spending around $35k for all the parts, batteries, etc... for the Tesla drive system for the 911.
@KHALIIL01 putting the engine at the back? 😁
Nice work. We need SO MANY MORE of these. We gotta have cool conversions. there are just way to many cool existing cars (& trucks) to toss all that away. You'all are right on the mark. Keep up the good work : D
An elegant execution of something that should never have been done
I can see the ground below the motor. Is there some kind of shield that protects the motor from water and dirt?
@ My inner Veruca wants a shield and she wants it now!
I love that a model S drives by after SLCS 😂 Perfect way to end it.
It would be appreciated if you provided a 'basic' specs sheet for the end product....like 0-60 time, estimated range, maximum power, top-speed and approximate cost (installed). I know some of this was sprinkled through the video but I didn't hear anything about range or $. Great kit and I'm going to be interested once the improved batteries make it to market in a couple years to allow for increased range in the limited battery space. Is this ready for a Cayman?
Just imagine these conversions with the 4680 batteries.
Nobody brought them one, that porsche has an owner, they just need somebody who owns a cayman and is willing to convert it to electric drive
0 - 60 looks like it costs 2 rear tires
You forgot to speak about A/C, does it have one? Also where is the cooling system?
I'd like to know more about this, too. Are A/C systems part of your product offerings?
Fantastic work Michael and team! So.... what's the price of the bolt-in system?
Poor Porsche
Eventhough Ferdinant made electric tanks
A electric 911 is like cursing in church
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo........Thats a shell of a magnificent car....with its heart and soul ripped out!
Purists: why!?
Sensible people: f*** yeah!!!
It's crazy fast, but I'm a purist. The sound and feel of the air-cooled engine is better overall experience. I have a model 3, but love the original porsche. Don't like ruining vintage cars like this.
convert them or lose them.. no gas cars in the future ....
@@gui4j Yeah I’d be nice to have my car converted but these guys never respond lol
Converting them is pointless, all you do is add extra strain and stress on the whole car which will make it break faster There is a reason why high horsepower cars need to be much stronger. There might be methylene as fuel in the future as it is sustainable fuel so converting it to methylene would be better
I have always been odd. I need an electric hot rod in my life. Like a Yugo, or Chevette that does 0-60 in 2.3. :)
I was thinking a sick awd converted gremlin. Or maybe a vw thing, possibly a chevy corvair? 😎
If I had the money I’d have an Opel GT from the same era. It’d be light, fast and beautiful to look at, a bit like a baby Corvette.
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Now you mention type R you remind me how much I used to love it’s predecessor, the original civic CRX. I very nearly bought one back in the late 80’s, I ended up with a Ford but always regretted not getting the Honda.
+1. .. Think GEO Metro ..
2 second 0-60 Smart car sounds fun to me
Discusting!! Should really be ashamed of yourself for ruining such a valuable car like that, by removing every bit of it’s heart and soul..
This is why we spent years developing this kit, so that it could be bolt in, and reversible. Just like a wheel and tire combo, it can be changed back to stock at any time, so there is no change to the original body and chassis. We're not environmentalists, we're a speed shop, so the intent is to make the car faster, not cleaner. That's just a nice side effect.
911 is a classic u should give some respect for the flat 6
Very impressive packaging of all the battery and drive unit components.
Next week, we take the Mona Lisa and paint a mustache on the lady! Lets take a look....
lol
That stop the oil leaks!
😂
SLCS! This was amazing you are all BAMF.
I didn't know you could get an electric that light, 2450 lbs.
That is very light i guess its easier to get a car that light when its an actual sports car without all the safety precautions such as airbags and other things plus it probably has a smaller battery
Also the car is not designed for that much power so it uses weaker components as they are lighter.
You are doing amazing work and the regular videos are appreciated.
It would be interesting to see a mini series showing a project from start (enquiry/concept) through to completion.
I just want to be clear, it's not just a trunk, it's an actual trunk.
An actual trunk. On a porsche!
So, same overall weight as stock at 2400 lbs? Not bad with 32 kWh.
I'd already be happy with half the power probably, Model 3 motor with less heat loss. But probably still a challenge to control?
An old Porsche is a Porsche with emotional form and pure engine sounds.........no Lamp on wheels.....🤮
Wow that’s fast. Just acquired a 1966 912 with a vw engine ughh. planning to put a period correct 4 cylinder Porsche 912 motor back in during restoration but your video does open up a different direction do you sell the box or at least provide the cad/ dxf file for us to weld up a engine mount to go with your 912 kit ? Trying to put together a cost. And labor estimate
I like those safety steel toe sandals
Its how deaf ppl watch car shows.
Why would you take an iconic classic & ruin it? It’s the EV folks snubbing the real car loving guys. They could’ve used an old 80’s economy car for the conversion. What’s next a classic 1960’s Corvette?
EV Stingray would be great.
raboox9 wait until Chevy puts out a new one. Don’t destroy a classic one!
Better than letting it rot in the garage because you arent allowed to drive it anymore. Aslo, if you are new here... EV West conversions use all the original mounting points so it is a reversible conversion. They are classic car lovers and do as much as they can to preserve the original vehicles. They dont even usually have them repainted.
Has he mentioned the driving range of these conversions at all ? Also with the gap between the electric motor in the back and his control box in the boot how sure is the waterproofing ? Yes EV's are instantly fast but also drain fast then spend at lease 20-45 mins somewhere charging ? Ask the Tesla drivers in Chicago how much they love their EVs... lol . I'd probably buy a hybrid in the future but hey dont be surprised one day they stop liquid fuels .... lol... After all that is our govts plan .....
my dream car, BEV DeLorean.
I remember seeing the contest to win this car, but they never showed the car operate, or mentioned the range. It was poorly marketed, but a beautiful car.
@james braselton uh... sure?
32kwh capacity, what does your miles per kWh come out as? Clearly lighter than a Tesla probably with less frontal area. Would like to think you are achieving 4.5 miles per kWh? Say 135 mile range? Does your installation include regenerative braking? Maybe a rear seat box with an extra 16kwh battery and just a single Tesla motor would give more than adequate performance and greater range?
Came here to ask the same about regen. Since this 911 is RWD only, no mention was made of any motors in the front, and the front does most of the braking, I have to assume that there is no regen.
I’m rethinking rebuilding my old 912 engine 🤔
That is the saddest thing I have seen in RUclips so far
As an owner of a REAL air cooled Porsche, I couldn’t agree more. Without the sound it’s not even close to the same driving experience. I won’t even get into the fantasy that ev’s pollute less or where we will magically get the power to charge millions of ev’s. Flame away millennials, flame away.
I am with you on this guys , what is wrong with these people ? I own a Vincent motorcycle imagine putting an electric motor in that , if you own a Rolex watch put a quartz movement in it , it will be more accurate than a mechanical movement. With classic engineering people who understand appreciate these things . This kind of thing is clever as a one off , ok .
Good to see there are actual car enthusiasts alive and kicking like you guys. They're all blinded by this electric is clean myth
why do you put a video of a product that you sell and then DO NOT say in the video , how much the conversion is??????
Lets put it this way... if you have to ask, you cant afford it.
This is probably a stupid question but I'm just learning. With a 32kw battery pack what would be the range? 120 miles give or take?
Yeah I think you're pretty close here. The 120ah BMW i3 has around the same size batter and goes 120 miles without babying it. This Porsche is lighter but may be a wash if BMW is tuned for better efficiency
We've been getting bout 140 miles per charge.
Awesome thanks for the replies guys. EV West is doing something that needs expansion. What a fascinating subject.
Souless car! Just because you can does not mean you should.
Just because you can comment.... just kidding, but really, celebrate diversity.... and SPEED!
Would be cool to see you do a similar conversion to a 65-69 Corvair, the poor man's Porsche.
check out the Electrovair!!! ( ruclips.net/video/YXxgatAznHU/видео.html )
I'm curious...is this not the same car featured on Jay Leno's Garage? Same colour, same wheels, front battery install looks identical, even license plate matches,except for the year sticker. That car was described as a 912.
32kWh? Only the first-gen Nissan Leaf had a smaller battery. Though in fairness, I've found it mostly adequate for the past 10 years, but I understand why you'd do it with a Porsche; it keeps the 911/912 lighter, more nimble.
What a neat idea, offering "plug" compatible replacement electrical power units! This could work with any vehicle and would be certainly profitable for cars that have been market winners produced in large quantities. You just find a model with a timeless look like the Porsche 911. Once you remove the ICE and all its accessories (radiators, gear box, gas tank etc..) you are left with enough real estate for the batteries as electric motors are small compared to what you have removed. Great project for a start-up... and to attract Climate Change suckers!
Hello I have an 1981 911/930 porsche turbo. do you have a Tesla subframe for it as in your video. I can not seem to fine it on your website. And do you sell all the parts required. Secondly would you be interested in doing the conversion.
Thanks
Did I see a Dolorean ? Good luck finding a battery powerful enough :')
1.21 gigawatts should do it nicely!
Ah, the nine-eleven. The beauty, the heritage, the sound of the air cooled flat-six and the crisp gearchange....fuck me sideways. I get it when someone makes an EV out of a DeLorean because that had only its looks speaking for it. But this is like bringing your kids to a taxidermist so they are quiet and don't need food.
So it sounds like you can just supply the 911 kit for the install, I assume the customer has to source the some parts too? I note Air conditioning wasn't mentioned but I am aware electric kits are available, have you also installed this? Im interested as I have an old Porsche 993 that will need an engine rebuild at some point. Im in Australia.
Why just dont buy an taycan Turbo s? Has literaly better performance than any Tesla xd
This is great! Goes like a Tesla but doesn't look like one. Ideal.
So true
I love the Tesla Powered Porsches BUT....STOP THE PRESS!!! Show us the DE LOREAN!!!!
How many miles do you get on a charge and how quick does it take charge?
Plug and play is the key to EV transversion.. No bullshit cutting , mods etc just drop and go.
So what's the bulk cost or price range?? You miss the driving, shifting,etc. for just a quick take off :-) but an option for a commuter car you want to keep and make it green...supposedly Tesla tried to charge 22k for a new battery pack
Would love to hear more about transmission mating possibilities with the Tesla drive train. Also, would a system that includes the front and rear drive trains be possible? Subscribed, great content!
I have a 996 with bad motor. Do you have a suggestion regarding an electric motor package. Cost is important.
show us the 356 electric! please!
I'm surprised only 55% of the weight is on the rear tires, given that half the batteries and ALL the motors are hanging past the axle.
Now thats what I'm talking about. Absolutely 💯 love this. How about taking a stab at a 07 Honda Pilot yeah?? Couldn't be that hard right?😃.SLOCS lol.
What does a conversion cost on average? I can imagine the entire setup running well over $100k for the 1968 911, including the cost of the 911. Likely double the cost of the 911, if in excellent shape.
The site lists for 11k without the batteries. A Porsche 911engine complete rebuild is now more than that. More if you increase the performance.
That's pretty cool but I'd leave the classic cars alone or at least keep a manual gearbox
Yes, when I first saw that they swapped the original engine with a tesla system i wanted to vomit. How could you do that to such a beautiful and iconic car. Just keep it original. Very sad...
Fantastic episode, 10/10 quality and brevity. SLCS fans. 2.06 seconds! 👀👀👀
Too much power for a light short wheelbase car. Work on an all wheel drive 911. Would be sad to see that old beauty wrecked.
400 kW? Most cars only have about 64 kW. How did you pack so much into a tiny vehicle?
Great work Micheal! Love it. Man you fingers were close to those + - contractors...... ;)
YES! Love the addition of the lapel mic! Major improvement, thanks. Now... when does this drop-in package show up in the EV West catalog?!
Not sure about the batteries mounted so low in the crash zone. Even when somebody reverses and bumps into a curb with low force, that would be it either to the chassis or to the battery.
32 kWh battery...? What 120 mi range? Definitely an around town car.
Raridade car
The American bumper are horrible 🤢 and the subframe assembly with different areas without cover? No sense
I wish one day i could have my old MK2 Corolla Trueno electrically powered.
subframes are Aluminum or steel? (I assume aluminum but you never said) Range on this car?
tesla powered delorean/time machine, then tesla powered family griswold truckster lol
Look How they massacred my boy
well said man, well said
You just lost all respect with me with those rubber bonnet hold down straps WTF are those all about
Very neat. And the Delorean up there :)
Can anyone from 🇬🇧 comment on if they’ve converted or bought a converted car where they got it insured, particularly look at the London congestion charging zone, thanks in advance 😁👍
look at the 911 in @fullychargedshow .
Funnily enough I was trying to work this out yesterday. On the official Transport For London CC & ULEZ website it says that the V5C for the car has to show ‘electric’ as the fuel type. The DVLA website has this page: www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-details-registration-certificate/what-evidence-to-give about changing the V5C. So it looks as if it is possible to get exemption. BUT - you are dealing with government here so who knows how easy it is in practice. Plus the CC exemption stops on 25th December 2025, though I assume that the ULEZ exemption will continue.
RUclips videos have been posted showing EV conversions by at least 4 different companies in the UK, so it is possible - but it is quite expensive. The cost seems to depend on range, performance and whether the company you choose has done your model of car before. You need to budget for at least £30k for a small car and probably twice that for a big one. That is lots of CC days ....
Search for ‘Zero EV MX5’ for a series of build videos about their MX5. They said the kit will be sold for about £30k. Very educational series.
Should any 911 that has been converted like this car now be called a ... 9e11 😀
Stripping Porsche of it's great sounding engine is like telling hot girl to be silent during sex.
"Yeah, we had an electric conversion done in the early 21st century".
EXCUSE ME,
BUT I WOULD NEVER HIRE ANYONE WHO WORKS IN THONGS TO DO ANYTHING.
PERIOD.
Hi, are guys selling that kit? With the bms, batteries, etc. if yes, could you please post a link! Thanks in advance and, AMAZING video. You guys inspire everyone to jump into a project like this one.
You can check with the sales team at EV west using sales@evwest.com they can answer the specific questions you have. Drew - EV West Media Manger
What a pity it doesn’t have a Porsche engine sound
How does the battery weight affect the handling and what is the range?
Solid state power for the rest of us. Excellent explanation and tour. Very cool!