Thank you so much for suggesting this collaboration, Billy! I had so much fun filming and learned so much about filming! I think I said this so many times, but you are such an inspiration for other Korean learners! "I want to be as fluent as Billy!" Like we said, you can benefit from both native and non-native teachers! USE ALL AND ANY TEACHERS AND RESOURCES, EVERYONE! ❤️
I chose a non-native Korean teacher as they have already learnt Korean from English and thus can relate to any struggles someone learning Korean as a second language may have.
I agree with you so much, and also hope more people can see this beneficial aspect of having a non-native teacher! Some people assume only native speakers make a good teacher, which is not true!
Personally I really like Billy as a teacher, he explains very well and makes korean more interesting each time, plus he managed to master the language as a second tongue and he is for sure able to highlight potholes in the learning process to people in the same starting position, that a native might not recognize for the language being just intuitive. I've recently bought his three Korean learning books and so far I strongly recommend them.
This is EXACTLY what non-native teachers can help and inspire! 🥰 Plus, Billy not only learned as a learner but also learned to be a teacher... so yes he's a wonderful teacher!!!
I would say both is beneficial. Thanks to Billie's video's I learned Hangul. After I felt comfortable with the Korean "alphabet" I switched over to Korean teacher's videos. Billie definitely gave me a HUGE jump start in my learning because of the way his videos were so structured and so clear.
@@boringajeossi2465 맞아요. 저도 고등학교 물리(physics) 선생님이 진짜 똑똑한 분이었는데… 진짜 못 가르쳤어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아는 것과 가르치는 건 달라요! Knowing and teaching are definitely two separate skills!!! Totally agreed!
I have to say, Billy, your books made me not give up on Korean. I guess because you already went through the process. Now that I know a few things I’m able to absorb more from the materials that I was using before and that weren’t working in the beginning. I also feel more confident now using native teachers materials, because like Jream said, they’re very intuitive. Korean is my third language and I’m having a blast learning it.
Your comments made me smile 🥰 Definitely can benefit differently from both! Use them all, why not? Right? 😀 Plus, kudos to you!!! I need to work on my third language!
I'm totally agree with 재림 선생님, we need to use all the ressources native and non native. At the very beginning, I liked to start with a non-native speaker of my native language (French) but after that, it becomes more natural to use ressources with native speakers. However some non-native speakers still useful. So I'm a fan of you two!😋 Thank you for your great work.👏👏👏
At the moment I'm using 2 different native Korean teachers. 1 is helping with conversations, and 1 is helping with grammar and reading. Im so thankful for both! I use alot of non native Korean learners for tips on how to study, or what good materials to use. Im so so thankful for all the different materials and resources for learning! Wonderful video as always Billy!
My native korean teacher was impressed with how much i knew and my pronunciation. She asked what i used to study and when i showed her my GO BILLY book, she confirmed that it is a really great book to learn from.
I think both have their pros and cons for sure. In my opinion, there is something better than a non-native teacher or a native teacher - a teacher who knows the study of linguistics! Whether they are native or not, a teacher who deeply understands not only their student's native language and target language, but how languages work in general would be a real asset in learning and studying a new language 😊 But Billy and Jream are two amazing teachers
There are going to be teachers that you 'click' with. It feels fluid and easier to learn. In a school, you can't pick your teacher, but on YT you can learn from many. The internet makes having an immersive experience with a foreign language and culture possible. Learning a language just takes time, commitment, and practice. It's not hard, but it will feel like it is. Keep doing it. The more you learn, will make you realize how much more there is to learn. And that can be frustrating and overwhelming. Anyone can learn a new language. If you are speaking a language right now, then you can learn to speak another. Never let negative, self defeating thoughts or feelings, stop or discourage you. The most important time to practice and study, are the times you least feel like doing so!!! Make that commitment to yourself to do so, and your success is guaranteed.. 👍
The biggest difference is that a non-native speaker has a better understanding of what it's actually like to be a native English speaker learning Korean (which has different challenges...often completely inverse challenges, even, compared to being a native Korean speaker learning English). Also I think native English speakers are just more accustomed to adjusting their level in general, due to how common non-native English speakers are. I and all my native English speaking friends can hold functional conversations in English with Koreans who barely know any English, but the same cannot be said in reverse.
I agree with this so much! I am using a native teacher who isn't quite fluent in English but since my level of Korean is not that good yet ( I've been studying for about 7 months) I think I can learn a lot from her. I have also been thinking about learning from a non native teacher basically because of the reasons that you mentioned in this video. Thanks so much for making this content since I use it a lot for learning and practicing along with my other lessons. 감사합니다!
@KoreanJream is so well spoken, qualified, and experienced. Thank you for providing accurate information backed up by real world examples. I look forward to seeing what your youTube channel comprises of.
Billy is the best Korean teacher for me. I subscribed the first time I saw his video. His style is easy to follow and as a matter of fact I learned Hangul easily because of him.
I started off with native teacher here in yt, but she took a lot of things for granted because she didn't think it was necessary to further explain. When I found Billy it was really amazing. I felt he understood all the things that were difficult to me, he answered the doubts I had because he himself had to go through the exact same things, and that made it easier for me. Perhaps when I reach a more advanced level I could need a native teacher, or just a native person to practice and chat, but for now I'm good with Billy.
Obviously a mixture of both is probably ideal. One thing I was struggling and still working on is listening comprehension. When I found Billy, I found his Korean to be easier for me to comprehend, probably because as a fellow American English speaker he speaks with somewhat of an accent that makes his Korean friendlier to my ear, which helped me to practice listening without getting discouraged.
In the upper levels, native teachers are great. However, in my experience, in the beginner levels I always ended up adapting to the teacher instead of the other way round. Its exhausting when the teacher can't grasp the level of the student and adapt to it and the classes end up not being useful :(
I agree with your comment 100 percent. I'm under the impression that Korea has certain standards it wants its native teachers to adhere to and the Korean academia world is 180 degrees different than the U.S; therefore, it's hard for that Korean teacher to realize that a left-handed, 65 year old male is NOT going to learn the same way as a right-handed 25 y.o. female. I guess that's why truly effective teaching is an art that not everyone masters.
@@468strings7 Yes, and the same happens with Japanese teachers. English teachers, on the other hand, go through a very different training, more American/European mixed with local Latin American stuff (I'm from Argentina) and classes tend to be a lot more flexible but still structured. Most Japanese school students complain about their English teachers because they stick to the book too much and don't adapt their teaching to the students' needs, but I never had to go through that at school. All my English teachers were amazing
I am in the KIIP(Korean Immigration and Integration Program) and I have been learning about a year now. I find it useful to have a native teacher who uses only Korean in our classes. It is difficult though because of the learning curve and occasionally I have to seek out English examples of the grammar I am learning. There are always ups and downs when learning a language, but I think I am doing well for someone who has only been learning for a year. I just choose to think that even though the pace may be slow, it isn't a race and I have time to figure out all the stuff in-between. That helps a lot. :)
Natives learn naturally in childhood but non natives have made effort in the second language so they know better learning tips that how should we make it to that language
One of the worst tutors I've had for learning Korean was a Korean-American bloke who considered himself bilingual ('though he'd started learning English at about 7 years old). He didn't understand English grammar properly (he spoke well but he didn't understand English grammar rules) and he couldn't understand why I didn't pick up stuff quicker. I worked my ass off trying to learn the vocab but he just didn't believe me. However, I have had good native Korean teachers and good Non-native teachers. The key is that - when I was at the beginner and lower intermediate levels - I need them to understand English grammar very well in order to have a shared vocabulary with me for explaining how Korean grammar and language works. One of the biggest wastes of time and money were some classes I took in Korea where the teachers were only allowed to speak Korean to teach Korean. I'd only get a rough idea of what the teachers meant, so go home at night to look up the grammar and vocab for myself online, and so often I'd find that I'd had a very wrong idea from the lesson. I thought 야채 was a type of kimchi and ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what 때문에 meant, and there were a huge number of accounting terms that all seemed to mean receipt but turned out to be different types of fees and interest. It's crazy teaching low intermediate in Korean only, and really demoralising. The best teachers for me at that level were the ones who broke the rules and would wrap up the lesson using a bit of English to review what they'd covered. So this is a long list of complaints, but I've gone back to Korea and done it again, so it can't have been too bad. But the second time (at a different school), my level was just a bit higher and I came mentally prepared and with experience learning under those conditions and the whole experience was much better. Resources like Billy's videos, TTMIK's podcasts+lessons, websites like How To Study Korean and various blogs from Korean learners and HiNative become resources that I use flexibly on an as-needs basis.
I have not used any teachers… I have been using an app only but I do watch a few RUclips people like you Billy and Talk to me in Korean but I am a older person who seems to have trouble remembering how things are pronounced if I don’t hear it all the time
I am learning Mandarin currently and I am also about to check out RUclipsr Xiaoma's conversational program which looks interesting. He is a non-native. However, I also seek out native speakers, from the classroom to cultural centers, and marketplaces. Once I hit my goal with Mandarin (even though progress and development always continues). I will be diving into Korean immediately! Thanks for the great informative channel Billy! Thank you Jream! This is a valuable resource!
As a native Korean teacher, 🙋🏻♀️ these two teachers have many advantages over disadvantages of native and non-native Korean teachers. In conclusion, both are the best. 👍👍
I love how both of you explain grammar, and thanks to Billy I found many good channels for learning! Here where I live I have a native teacher and I think the pros are knowing when something doesn't sound natural, getting use to listening to a native regularly and learning culture and history, her life experience in Korea, specially stuff from her childhood/teen years since there's a huge age gap, at the same time we students help her with trends and things like that
That’s an interesting topic! Back when I studied German I used to chat online with Germans and would hear pretty often that my German is better than German of some native speakers. But somehow, since I started learning Korean (by myself) I’ve always looked for native speakers: language exchange partners as well as teachers (though have never had any lessons yet). So... 1. Thank you for reminding that non-natives ARE good teachers, too! From now on, I’ll look for language exchange partners not only among natives. :) 2. Another thought was: I’m living in Europe and don’t know if I will ever be able to go to Korea even as a tourist (not even talking about living there), that was the reason for me to talk to natives more, because they can teach me the culture and some history points better. 3. I like to have the best possible pronunciation, and that’s the reason, as you mentioned, I would choose a native speaker, esp because I’m not in Korea. 4. On the other hand, my good (well, surely not bad) English and German pronunciation I’ve learned while living where I was born (haha, good to remind myself about it), so RIGHT NOW I would say it’s about your willing and efforts. 4. Since I haven’t had any Korean teacher and remembering that some natives might know their native language worse than those who learned, I’m really thankful to my language exchange partner (who IS a Korean and now my friend) for being able to explain to me every thing that I’ve asked (though she’s working with finances), both grammar points and words/idioms meaning.
What a fantastic interview. I like how both videos touch upon different subjects, and both are equally interesting. When your guest Jaerim started to talk in her Busan dialect, my mouth drop to the floor. Understanding Korean as it is it's difficult enough.
I am a "native speaker" of 경상도 사투리 (Gyeongsang dialect) in addition to Korean ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Billy was surprised by my dialect too (didn't know it was caught on camera! 😂) Thank you for watching both videos, and I am so happy to hear you enjoyed them!!!
The pleasure is mine. It's such a luxury to have you both as Korean teachers; I don't think learning Korean has ever had this quality of resources before. It used to be mostly only Chinese and Japanese. Thanks to people like you and some others, the playing field is evening out. It's exciting. One last thing. I swear I thought the Busan dialect part was staged. Maybe it's the editing, but it seemed like you were playing along, hahaha. Loved that part. We may need some behind the scenes footage to see how this episodes were filmed :-) 영상을 만들어 주셔서 감사합니다!!
@@lacanam Hahaha!!! Yeah it was after everything was set up and ready to go, and my friend who was staying there with me that day called so I was telling her to come in when she gets there even if we are filming ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저도 영상 봐 주셔서 너무 감사합니다!!! Oh and I am so happy to hear the Korean language learning world is expanding, and I can be part of it!!!
It's also really important that a native teacher also has learned another language to a high level as well. Days of French and Swedish talks about something like this.
This is a great point, 타라 씨! 💙 (Good to see you here too) I always tried to learn different languages for fun, but that also helped me as a language teacher too. But I should resume and learn one of them until I become more fluent now ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I have an expat Korean teacher (who was a teacher in Sth Korea for kids) before moving overseas. She speaks fluent English (learning from a young age). I think whoever the teacher is they have to be able to speak both languages fluently & adapt to what works well for you. I tried native Koreans who speak little English & I couldn't do it - I was frustrated and I froze a lot. I've got heaps of go to videos for learning, each with their purpose (grammar, listening, repeating, absorbing). I use the videos in both languages for grammar and the ones in all Korean for listening & repeating. Role play & animation really helps in those. Billy, you describe grammar in a way that we understand it as well as the nuance which is particular important in Korean. Cheers Mate
For me I like choosing a native korean speaker who is either fluent at speaking English or who is currently learning my mother tongue. This is because pronunciation is everything for me and I feel like if you have that down pack you a step closer to sounding more natural. Also with that you get to see the place sense of natural speakers like how their mouth moves when they speak because you know it comes naturally. That’s one reason why I absolutely love listening to talk to me in Korean Boss lol. The way he can switch back-and-forth from English to Korean so effortlessly it’s really motivating.
I really felt you at the "a native speaker might not know why things are a certain way, they just do them" part. I´m not a teacher, at all, but I´m german and I have a long distance friend from Korea, we chat almost daily and very often when she has a question to an advanced german grammar form I´m like "uhm... let me google that real quick" lol
I chose to learn from both. My tutor is a native speaker. She helps with grammar, pronunciation, intonation, and all the basic. We also fo fun stuff like learn Korean cooking, we will go over Kpop and Dramas. I utilize non native speakers for learning tips. I also love hearing their journeys through learning Korean.
I have 2 native Korean teachers. 1 is a man from Busan, 1 a woman from Seoul. I did that on purpose to get experience talking to a man vs woman, Busan 사투리 vs Seoul standard, and men/women teach differently. They're both fluent in English, so they understand how hard it is to learn.
I think a mixture of native and non-native is the best way to go (and I don't necessarily mean hiring multiple teachers). I often get grammar explanations from non-native sources (Ex: Billy and a website called How to Study Korean) because I find them to be the most understandable. On the other hand, I always check the situational use of vocab, grammar, expressions, etc. (basically anything I learn) with native speakers. For me, I think this mixture is an effective way. edit: lolol I just finished the video and 제림 made a PERFECT point in favour of non-native input: I'm a stickler for correctness in written grammar, so even though my Korean friends will text me with certain "mistakes" that are fine because they don't change the meaning, I always spell and space words correctly 😂
I use a combination of both. Online and in person. In person with a native speaker for pronunciation. Where I live it is hard to find a Korean teacher.
I think both native and non-native teachers are beneficial to the learning experience. I would recommend both for the best overall experience. I speak Spanish & English and have famy members who are also bilingual. O learned a lot from both. If you only use native speakers, you'll miss out on little tips that foreign language learners need to learn from non-native teachers, as they can relate better to your native tongue and will help you with true translation, (as most languages don't literally translate word for word) and help you avoid certain pitfalls they've experienced. Additionally, non-native teachers help to boost your confidence while learning-- an experience that only a non-native speaker can actually impart. On the flipside, as far as culture and pronunciation and a broad range of knowledge, a native speaker will be able to demonstrate and teach invaluable knowledge that connects you to more than just a language, but will be able to solidify your language learning experience and help you connect to an entire country in a way that a non-native teacher would not be able to convey, as the native background experience doesn't exist for non-native teachers.
If your learning Korean studying semantics in the linguistics realm will help immensely as well. Maybe even look at some linguistic analysis of related languages.
I reckon movie lines are so natural and at same time give them laugh. Like non-english speaker copy "This is the way" in Madalorian I would like to recommend '타짜-Tazza' 🤣🤣
I’ve been using native teachers on italki but I may try a non native teacher for grammar. I’m just thinking it might be more fun. The native speaker will be bored out of their mind I think but the non native maybe finds the topic more interesting? For conversation it’s a native speaker all the way. That’s a no brainer for me.
I'm a non-native English teacher and a Korean student and I also think that learners can benefit from both language teachers. Having someone who knows your mother language as well as you do can make a huge difference when you're still trying to figure out how this foreign language works. Speaking as a teacher, most of my own students are Beginners and I personally enjoy working with them the most because I help them build a good foundation. And then, we have the case of native speakers who believe they can teach a language just because they speak it... I take my job very seriously and I worked very hard to become a good teacher so I have a huge problem with native English speakers who don't care about teaching.... Well, you know. Anyway xD As a student, I work with two Korean tutors and one of them is a native Korean who speaks English and Portuguese and that is extremely useful to help me make sense of difficult concepts in Korean. However, with my other tutor, who doesn't speak any English, since I cannot rely on the languages I speak comfortably whatsoever, well, it definitely pushes me to make myself understood in a way that I don't always have to with my other tutor. Pretty much like everyone else has stated... Yes... Both. Hahaha you two are great! 이번에도 수고하셔서 고맙습니다 :)
Great video! I think it's good to learn from a mixture of native and non-native teachers. That's what's great about youtube! Now I'm gonna go check out Korean Jdream's channel ^-^
I have been lucky to have native speakers as teachers since beginner level. It has made it easier to develop a more natural sense of korean. However, if there is a difficult grammar point I need more clarification on, I watch one of your videos because sometimes we need an english parallel to fully understand when and how to use it.
I started my Korean learning journey with Billy and still on it 😀... Well , l think as a foreign to learn a new language it's better to first get help from a non native teacher who will teach exactly how to learn a language...then you'll decide how you will learn and which is beneficial for you :)
We are in Korean language classes with a native speaker and she. is. awesome! However, she is not a Westerner and therefore does not think like one. She doesn't quite understand why word order is so hard for us, or the fact that just because we've seen the word once, doesn't mean we have it memorized now. She also speaks very little English, so it is difficult for her to explain WHY we need to do this or that. So, for now, I go to class, learn a new concept, then come home and pray that Billy has done a video about it! X-D
iI would think that early on for native English speakers, learning from Billy is more useful. As you become more advanced, a native Korean speaker can probably help further your skills. I am Korean American and English is my native language and I am such a novice I prefer learning from Billy. Thanks Billy for helping motivate me to learn how to speak Korean! :)
Hey Billy...thanks for Helping me learning Korean....I easily understand your lessons on Hangul and I am on 50th video on your Hangul learning lessons but I don't know why it's still hard for me to understand korean and can't really Understand what am I lacking 😅
I choose a native teacher In the first place, although they didn't learn korean as it is their mother tongue but they have equipped the necessary skills on how to teach students that particular language based on students' need as well. And what's more, they speak Korean naturally and know 99% of the grammars and words, and also the perfect pronunciation which a non-native teacher might not be able to mastering Korean as in-depth as a native. For those who picked non-native teacher because they learnt the language and knows the best way to learn the language, I would say that certain method suits certain person, other's learning method might just not the best fit for you, just my personal opinion 🌟
HI! I know this has nothing to do with the video but I wanted to ask something, I'm trying to figure out my Korean name but I wanted to be connected to my actual name so I came up with 김 천국 does it sound weird?
Korean is beautiful. Id love to learn. What do yall suggest i start with learning with Billy? My daughter is Laos American so I speak some Lao. Please help...ty!!
I chose you as my teacher because you are NOT a native speaker. You are able to explain pronunciation of Korean in terms that an English speaker can easily understand.
I just started learning korean and immediately realized that most to all native korean teachers just can't explain a lot of things well in english and they got accents i don't understand which makes it much more harder to learn the language. And a non native teacher kinda gives me hope that i'll make it since i know they were once like me and now they can speak the language!
Awwww this is sooooo sweet... thank you 🥰😅 We both were soaked in sweat and humidity with thunderstorm that kept us on standby for an hour ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ We started filming as soon as the rain stopped 😂
Yes, both complement each other BUT J has the edge because she is ultimately a native speaker who speaks perfect English, good enough for English speakers to learn under from an Korean authentic teacher. Say what you want, Billy is not good enough as his accent falls short of being natural, his knowledge may not be complete.
Accent aside, its a lot easier for me to learn from someone who has the experience learning and struggling just like I’m going through as well. I don’t think its fair to say that he’s “not good enough” simply because his accent isn’t perfect.
Thank you for being so generous about my English and great to see you here! 🙏 As you know, I always appreciate your love but let's also remember it's not a competition! No one has to choose one over the other! As C T said, my English is not perfect (no language learner can ever be perfect) but it is advanced enough for me to teach a certain topic in English... and it goes the same to Billy's Korean! 🥰 His Korean is advanced enough to teach it after vigorously learning it for years just like I learned English. We both put time and effort to prepare for classes, and I believe that is the most important thing as a teacher, right? We will continue our best to teach you all ❤️
Thank you so much for suggesting this collaboration, Billy! I had so much fun filming and learned so much about filming!
I think I said this so many times, but you are such an inspiration for other Korean learners! "I want to be as fluent as Billy!"
Like we said, you can benefit from both native and non-native teachers!
USE ALL AND ANY TEACHERS AND RESOURCES, EVERYONE! ❤️
I’m so happy you both collabed!! This was suuuch a pleasant surprise!! I wish you more success because you are such an amazing 선생님!!! 사랑해요~~🥺💛
@@marvinyounice I am so happy to hear this made you happy too! 😍 저도 응원 너무 감사합니다!!! 계속 열심히 가르칠게요! 저도 사랑해요 ❤️
재림 샘 넘 멋져요!👍👍 샘 채널에서 본 영상과 또 다른 느낌이네요. 영상 진짜 재미있게 봤어요.😊
전 원어민 선생님이니까.... 무조건 원어민 선생님편이에요.😅
재림 선생님 영어를 잘 해요. 재림 선생님의 수업 너무 재미있고 저는 많이 배워요.
@@KoreanArah 감사합니다 쌤! 쌤 댓글 보고 웃었네요 ㅎㅎㅎ 😆 전 쌤 편 ❤️ 느낌이 다른가요? 역시 각자의 스타일이 있긴 하고 그게 보이나 봐요!
I chose a non-native Korean teacher as they have already learnt Korean from English and thus can relate to any struggles someone learning Korean as a second language may have.
That makes sense actually!
I agree with you so much, and also hope more people can see this beneficial aspect of having a non-native teacher! Some people assume only native speakers make a good teacher, which is not true!
Personally I really like Billy as a teacher, he explains very well and makes korean more interesting each time, plus he managed to master the language as a second tongue and he is for sure able to highlight potholes in the learning process to people in the same starting position, that a native might not recognize for the language being just intuitive. I've recently bought his three Korean learning books and so far I strongly recommend them.
This is EXACTLY what non-native teachers can help and inspire! 🥰 Plus, Billy not only learned as a learner but also learned to be a teacher... so yes he's a wonderful teacher!!!
I would say both is beneficial. Thanks to Billie's video's I learned Hangul. After I felt comfortable with the Korean "alphabet" I switched over to Korean teacher's videos. Billie definitely gave me a HUGE jump start in my learning because of the way his videos were so structured and so clear.
I totally agree with you too! 💙 The quality of the class preparation matters more regardless of what the teacher’s background is in the end, right? 😃
@@KoreanJream 대학교 때 CERN 일하고 있는 선생심게서 Physics 배웠는데 아무것도 이해하지 않나요. "일반" 선생님게서 배울 때 이해가 많아요. 가르치기는 누군구 위해 하는 일 아닌 것 같아요
@@boringajeossi2465 맞아요. 저도 고등학교 물리(physics) 선생님이 진짜 똑똑한 분이었는데… 진짜 못 가르쳤어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아는 것과 가르치는 건 달라요! Knowing and teaching are definitely two separate skills!!! Totally agreed!
"Learning is not the product of teaching. Learning is the product of the activity of learners." John Holt
I have to say, Billy, your books made me not give up on Korean. I guess because you already went through the process. Now that I know a few things I’m able to absorb more from the materials that I was using before and that weren’t working in the beginning. I also feel more confident now using native teachers materials, because like Jream said, they’re very intuitive.
Korean is my third language and I’m having a blast learning it.
Your comments made me smile 🥰 Definitely can benefit differently from both! Use them all, why not? Right? 😀 Plus, kudos to you!!! I need to work on my third language!
Hwaiting!
I'm totally agree with 재림 선생님, we need to use all the ressources native and non native. At the very beginning, I liked to start with a non-native speaker of my native language (French) but after that, it becomes more natural to use ressources with native speakers. However some non-native speakers still useful. So I'm a fan of you two!😋 Thank you for your great work.👏👏👏
감사합니다, 마리 프랑스 님!!! 여기서 봬서 더 반가워요! 🥰 저도 동의해요! I also agree! Why not using all the resources, right? Everyone can offer something helpful!
At the moment I'm using 2 different native Korean teachers. 1 is helping with conversations, and 1 is helping with grammar and reading. Im so thankful for both! I use alot of non native Korean learners for tips on how to study, or what good materials to use. Im so so thankful for all the different materials and resources for learning! Wonderful video as always Billy!
I'm learning from both of these teachers. So, best of both worlds! 😀
Awww thank you so much 제이신스 님! ❤️
My native korean teacher was impressed with how much i knew and my pronunciation. She asked what i used to study and when i showed her my GO BILLY book, she confirmed that it is a really great book to learn from.
where I can buy a GO BILLY book
I think both have their pros and cons for sure. In my opinion, there is something better than a non-native teacher or a native teacher - a teacher who knows the study of linguistics! Whether they are native or not, a teacher who deeply understands not only their student's native language and target language, but how languages work in general would be a real asset in learning and studying a new language 😊
But Billy and Jream are two amazing teachers
There are going to be teachers that you 'click' with. It feels fluid and easier to learn.
In a school, you can't pick your teacher, but on YT you can learn from many. The internet makes having an immersive experience with a foreign language and culture possible.
Learning a language just takes time, commitment, and practice. It's not hard, but it will feel like it is. Keep doing it. The more you learn, will make you realize how much more there is to learn. And that can be frustrating and overwhelming.
Anyone can learn a new language. If you are speaking a language right now, then you can learn to speak another.
Never let negative, self defeating thoughts or feelings, stop or discourage you. The most important time to practice and study, are the times you least feel like doing so!!! Make that commitment to yourself to do so, and your success is guaranteed.. 👍
The biggest difference is that a non-native speaker has a better understanding of what it's actually like to be a native English speaker learning Korean (which has different challenges...often completely inverse challenges, even, compared to being a native Korean speaker learning English). Also I think native English speakers are just more accustomed to adjusting their level in general, due to how common non-native English speakers are. I and all my native English speaking friends can hold functional conversations in English with Koreans who barely know any English, but the same cannot be said in reverse.
I agree with this so much! I am using a native teacher who isn't quite fluent in English but since my level of Korean is not that good yet ( I've been studying for about 7 months) I think I can learn a lot from her. I have also been thinking about learning from a non native teacher basically because of the reasons that you mentioned in this video.
Thanks so much for making this content since I use it a lot for learning and practicing along with my other lessons. 감사합니다!
@KoreanJream is so well spoken, qualified, and experienced. Thank you for providing accurate information backed up by real world examples. I look forward to seeing what your youTube channel comprises of.
Billy is the best Korean teacher for me. I subscribed the first time I saw his video.
His style is easy to follow and as a matter of fact I learned Hangul easily because of him.
I started off with native teacher here in yt, but she took a lot of things for granted because she didn't think it was necessary to further explain. When I found Billy it was really amazing. I felt he understood all the things that were difficult to me, he answered the doubts I had because he himself had to go through the exact same things, and that made it easier for me. Perhaps when I reach a more advanced level I could need a native teacher, or just a native person to practice and chat, but for now I'm good with Billy.
Obviously a mixture of both is probably ideal. One thing I was struggling and still working on is listening comprehension. When I found Billy, I found his Korean to be easier for me to comprehend, probably because as a fellow American English speaker he speaks with somewhat of an accent that makes his Korean friendlier to my ear, which helped me to practice listening without getting discouraged.
In the upper levels, native teachers are great. However, in my experience, in the beginner levels I always ended up adapting to the teacher instead of the other way round. Its exhausting when the teacher can't grasp the level of the student and adapt to it and the classes end up not being useful :(
I agree with your comment 100 percent. I'm under the impression that Korea has certain standards it wants its native teachers to adhere to and the Korean academia world is 180 degrees different than the U.S; therefore, it's hard for that Korean teacher to realize that a left-handed, 65 year old male is NOT going to learn the same way as a right-handed 25 y.o. female. I guess that's why truly effective teaching is an art that not everyone masters.
@@468strings7 Yes, and the same happens with Japanese teachers. English teachers, on the other hand, go through a very different training, more American/European mixed with local Latin American stuff (I'm from Argentina) and classes tend to be a lot more flexible but still structured. Most Japanese school students complain about their English teachers because they stick to the book too much and don't adapt their teaching to the students' needs, but I never had to go through that at school. All my English teachers were amazing
First of all thank you Billy don't be demotivated by less views they are people who really need your content so keep going thanks again
I don't mind wether they are native speaker or not as long as we both can use english as mediator
I am in the KIIP(Korean Immigration and Integration Program) and I have been learning about a year now. I find it useful to have a native teacher who uses only Korean in our classes. It is difficult though because of the learning curve and occasionally I have to seek out English examples of the grammar I am learning. There are always ups and downs when learning a language, but I think I am doing well for someone who has only been learning for a year. I just choose to think that even though the pace may be slow, it isn't a race and I have time to figure out all the stuff in-between. That helps a lot. :)
Natives learn naturally in childhood but non natives have made effort in the second language so they know better learning tips that how should we make it to that language
One of the worst tutors I've had for learning Korean was a Korean-American bloke who considered himself bilingual ('though he'd started learning English at about 7 years old). He didn't understand English grammar properly (he spoke well but he didn't understand English grammar rules) and he couldn't understand why I didn't pick up stuff quicker. I worked my ass off trying to learn the vocab but he just didn't believe me.
However, I have had good native Korean teachers and good Non-native teachers. The key is that - when I was at the beginner and lower intermediate levels - I need them to understand English grammar very well in order to have a shared vocabulary with me for explaining how Korean grammar and language works.
One of the biggest wastes of time and money were some classes I took in Korea where the teachers were only allowed to speak Korean to teach Korean. I'd only get a rough idea of what the teachers meant, so go home at night to look up the grammar and vocab for myself online, and so often I'd find that I'd had a very wrong idea from the lesson. I thought 야채 was a type of kimchi and ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what 때문에 meant, and there were a huge number of accounting terms that all seemed to mean receipt but turned out to be different types of fees and interest. It's crazy teaching low intermediate in Korean only, and really demoralising. The best teachers for me at that level were the ones who broke the rules and would wrap up the lesson using a bit of English to review what they'd covered.
So this is a long list of complaints, but I've gone back to Korea and done it again, so it can't have been too bad. But the second time (at a different school), my level was just a bit higher and I came mentally prepared and with experience learning under those conditions and the whole experience was much better. Resources like Billy's videos, TTMIK's podcasts+lessons, websites like How To Study Korean and various blogs from Korean learners and HiNative become resources that I use flexibly on an as-needs basis.
OMG J IS MY FAVORITE!!! I love her so much😭♥️
감사합니다 😭😍 Thank you for both loving me and loving this collab!!! ❤️
Wow my 2 favorite teachers together!!!🤩
감사합니다 ❤️
I have not used any teachers… I have been using an app only but I do watch a few RUclips people like you Billy and Talk to me in Korean but I am a older person who seems to have trouble remembering how things are pronounced if I don’t hear it all the time
한옥 그리고 비오는 날 :) It was also so good memories :)
Both of you are GREAT teachers. Thank You for being a teacher for us.🌹🌹
As Jream also said, You are an inspiring person too🌹👍.
Thank you so much for your kind words!!! 감사합니다! 🥰
I am learning Mandarin currently and I am also about to check out RUclipsr Xiaoma's conversational program which looks interesting. He is a non-native. However, I also seek out native speakers, from the classroom to cultural centers, and marketplaces. Once I hit my goal with Mandarin (even though progress and development always continues). I will be diving into Korean immediately! Thanks for the great informative channel Billy! Thank you Jream! This is a valuable resource!
As a native Korean teacher, 🙋🏻♀️
these two teachers have many advantages over disadvantages of native and non-native Korean teachers. In conclusion, both are the best. 👍👍
I really enjoyed this video! I've only been learning for about a month and I go back and forth between a native and non-native teacher.
Sounds like you got this game down!!! 화이팅!!! 👍
우와~ 제가 좋아하는 두 분이 함께 나오셨네요!!><
이조합 두 손들고 환영합니당!
😁😁🇰🇷I’m native Korean teacher🙂 They are so funny😂😂🇰🇷👍
I love how both of you explain grammar, and thanks to Billy I found many good channels for learning! Here where I live I have a native teacher and I think the pros are knowing when something doesn't sound natural, getting use to listening to a native regularly and learning culture and history, her life experience in Korea, specially stuff from her childhood/teen years since there's a huge age gap, at the same time we students help her with trends and things like that
That’s an interesting topic! Back when I studied German I used to chat online with Germans and would hear pretty often that my German is better than German of some native speakers. But somehow, since I started learning Korean (by myself) I’ve always looked for native speakers: language exchange partners as well as teachers (though have never had any lessons yet).
So...
1. Thank you for reminding that non-natives ARE good teachers, too! From now on, I’ll look for language exchange partners not only among natives. :)
2. Another thought was: I’m living in Europe and don’t know if I will ever be able to go to Korea even as a tourist (not even talking about living there), that was the reason for me to talk to natives more, because they can teach me the culture and some history points better.
3. I like to have the best possible pronunciation, and that’s the reason, as you mentioned, I would choose a native speaker, esp because I’m not in Korea.
4. On the other hand, my good (well, surely not bad) English and German pronunciation I’ve learned while living where I was born (haha, good to remind myself about it), so RIGHT NOW I would say it’s about your willing and efforts.
4. Since I haven’t had any Korean teacher and remembering that some natives might know their native language worse than those who learned, I’m really thankful to my language exchange partner (who IS a Korean and now my friend) for being able to explain to me every thing that I’ve asked (though she’s working with finances), both grammar points and words/idioms meaning.
I really like Billy’s RUclips videos specifically because he’s a native English speaker who studied a lot of Korean.
What a fantastic interview. I like how both videos touch upon different subjects, and both are equally interesting. When your guest Jaerim started to talk in her Busan dialect, my mouth drop to the floor. Understanding Korean as it is it's difficult enough.
I am a "native speaker" of 경상도 사투리 (Gyeongsang dialect) in addition to Korean ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Billy was surprised by my dialect too (didn't know it was caught on camera! 😂) Thank you for watching both videos, and I am so happy to hear you enjoyed them!!!
The pleasure is mine. It's such a luxury to have you both as Korean teachers; I don't think learning Korean has ever had this quality of resources before. It used to be mostly only Chinese and Japanese. Thanks to people like you and some others, the playing field is evening out. It's exciting.
One last thing. I swear I thought the Busan dialect part was staged. Maybe it's the editing, but it seemed like you were playing along, hahaha. Loved that part. We may need some behind the scenes footage to see how this episodes were filmed :-)
영상을 만들어 주셔서 감사합니다!!
@@lacanam Hahaha!!! Yeah it was after everything was set up and ready to go, and my friend who was staying there with me that day called so I was telling her to come in when she gets there even if we are filming ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저도 영상 봐 주셔서 너무 감사합니다!!! Oh and I am so happy to hear the Korean language learning world is expanding, and I can be part of it!!!
It's also really important that a native teacher also has learned another language to a high level as well. Days of French and Swedish talks about something like this.
This is a great point, 타라 씨! 💙 (Good to see you here too) I always tried to learn different languages for fun, but that also helped me as a language teacher too. But I should resume and learn one of them until I become more fluent now ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I have an expat Korean teacher (who was a teacher in Sth Korea for kids) before moving overseas. She speaks fluent English (learning from a young age). I think whoever the teacher is they have to be able to speak both languages fluently & adapt to what works well for you. I tried native Koreans who speak little English & I couldn't do it - I was frustrated and I froze a lot. I've got heaps of go to videos for learning, each with their purpose (grammar, listening, repeating, absorbing). I use the videos in both languages for grammar and the ones in all Korean for listening & repeating. Role play & animation really helps in those. Billy, you describe grammar in a way that we understand it as well as the nuance which is particular important in Korean. Cheers Mate
Great talk, really helpful! Couldn't help but notice-- It's a glass with Billy but no drinks? Hahaha. :D
It was raining so we could just open our mouths :p
@@GoBillyKorean Ahhhh, of course…! 😂
For me I like choosing a native korean speaker who is either fluent at speaking English or who is currently learning my mother tongue. This is because pronunciation is everything for me and I feel like if you have that down pack you a step closer to sounding more natural. Also with that you get to see the place sense of natural speakers like how their mouth moves when they speak because you know it comes naturally. That’s one reason why I absolutely love listening to talk to me in Korean Boss lol. The way he can switch back-and-forth from English to Korean so effortlessly it’s really motivating.
I really felt you at the "a native speaker might not know why things are a certain way, they just do them" part. I´m not a teacher, at all, but I´m german and I have a long distance friend from Korea, we chat almost daily and very often when she has a question to an advanced german grammar form I´m like "uhm... let me google that real quick" lol
I chose to learn from both. My tutor is a native speaker. She helps with grammar, pronunciation, intonation, and all the basic. We also fo fun stuff like learn Korean cooking, we will go over Kpop and Dramas. I utilize non native speakers for learning tips. I also love hearing their journeys through learning Korean.
I have 2 native Korean teachers. 1 is a man from Busan, 1 a woman from Seoul. I did that on purpose to get experience talking to a man vs woman, Busan 사투리 vs Seoul standard, and men/women teach differently. They're both fluent in English, so they understand how hard it is to learn.
I think a mixture of native and non-native is the best way to go (and I don't necessarily mean hiring multiple teachers). I often get grammar explanations from non-native sources (Ex: Billy and a website called How to Study Korean) because I find them to be the most understandable. On the other hand, I always check the situational use of vocab, grammar, expressions, etc. (basically anything I learn) with native speakers. For me, I think this mixture is an effective way.
edit: lolol I just finished the video and 제림 made a PERFECT point in favour of non-native input: I'm a stickler for correctness in written grammar, so even though my Korean friends will text me with certain "mistakes" that are fine because they don't change the meaning, I always spell and space words correctly 😂
I use a combination of both. Online and in person. In person with a native speaker for pronunciation. Where I live it is hard to find a Korean teacher.
Sounds like you got it all lined up perfectly for you! 👍👍👍👍
I think both native and non-native teachers are beneficial to the learning experience. I would recommend both for the best overall experience. I speak Spanish & English and have famy members who are also bilingual. O learned a lot from both. If you only use native speakers, you'll miss out on little tips that foreign language learners need to learn from non-native teachers, as they can relate better to your native tongue and will help you with true translation, (as most languages don't literally translate word for word) and help you avoid certain pitfalls they've experienced. Additionally, non-native teachers help to boost your confidence while learning-- an experience that only a non-native speaker can actually impart. On the flipside, as far as culture and pronunciation and a broad range of knowledge, a native speaker will be able to demonstrate and teach invaluable knowledge that connects you to more than just a language, but will be able to solidify your language learning experience and help you connect to an entire country in a way that a non-native teacher would not be able to convey, as the native background experience doesn't exist for non-native teachers.
I prefer both
If your learning Korean studying semantics in the linguistics realm will help immensely as well.
Maybe even look at some linguistic analysis of related languages.
Jream, I've had the same problem. Many pronounce my name Tam-era. I tell them...like Camera but with a T. I so get it!
Hahahaha! Love it! Thank you for sharing it with me!!! Your explanation is just like mine! I smiled and laughed, so thank you!!!
I reckon movie lines are so natural and at same time give them laugh. Like non-english speaker copy "This is the way" in Madalorian
I would like to recommend '타짜-Tazza' 🤣🤣
I’ve been using native teachers on italki but I may try a non native teacher for grammar. I’m just thinking it might be more fun. The native speaker will be bored out of their mind I think but the non native maybe finds the topic more interesting? For conversation it’s a native speaker all the way. That’s a no brainer for me.
I'm a non-native English teacher and a Korean student and I also think that learners can benefit from both language teachers. Having someone who knows your mother language as well as you do can make a huge difference when you're still trying to figure out how this foreign language works. Speaking as a teacher, most of my own students are Beginners and I personally enjoy working with them the most because I help them build a good foundation. And then, we have the case of native speakers who believe they can teach a language just because they speak it... I take my job very seriously and I worked very hard to become a good teacher so I have a huge problem with native English speakers who don't care about teaching.... Well, you know. Anyway xD As a student, I work with two Korean tutors and one of them is a native Korean who speaks English and Portuguese and that is extremely useful to help me make sense of difficult concepts in Korean. However, with my other tutor, who doesn't speak any English, since I cannot rely on the languages I speak comfortably whatsoever, well, it definitely pushes me to make myself understood in a way that I don't always have to with my other tutor.
Pretty much like everyone else has stated... Yes... Both. Hahaha you two are great! 이번에도 수고하셔서 고맙습니다 :)
Great video! I think it's good to learn from a mixture of native and non-native teachers. That's what's great about youtube! Now I'm gonna go check out Korean Jdream's channel ^-^
Thank you so much for liking this video, and I would be really grateful and happy to have you on my channel as well! 감사합니다!! 🥰
@@KoreanJream You replied to my comment! 감사합니다 ☺️ I watched your videos and I hope other people go to your channel from here too!!
I have classes with a native speaker, but I use Billy's textbook to learn!
17:50 Great advice. Thanks. :)
I have been lucky to have native speakers as teachers since beginner level. It has made it easier to develop a more natural sense of korean. However, if there is a difficult grammar point I need more clarification on, I watch one of your videos because sometimes we need an english parallel to fully understand when and how to use it.
I started my Korean learning journey with Billy and still on it 😀...
Well , l think as a foreign to learn a new language it's better to first get help from a non native teacher who will teach exactly how to learn a language...then you'll decide how you will learn and which is beneficial for you :)
We are in Korean language classes with a native speaker and she. is. awesome! However, she is not a Westerner and therefore does not think like one. She doesn't quite understand why word order is so hard for us, or the fact that just because we've seen the word once, doesn't mean we have it memorized now. She also speaks very little English, so it is difficult for her to explain WHY we need to do this or that. So, for now, I go to class, learn a new concept, then come home and pray that Billy has done a video about it! X-D
iI would think that early on for native English speakers, learning from Billy is more useful. As you become more advanced, a native Korean speaker can probably help further your skills. I am Korean American and English is my native language and I am such a novice I prefer learning from Billy. Thanks Billy for helping motivate me to learn how to speak Korean! :)
그래서 빌리 씨는 제 제일 좋아하는 한국어 선생님이세요😀😀.
우리를 가르쳐 드려서 감사합니다😀😀.
맞아요~저는 GoBilly랑 TTMIK 채널을 통에서 한국어 많이 배우고 있어요
지난날(?)에 재림 쌤, 허 쌤, 아라 쌤, 샘물 쌤, Jenn 쌤 추천 해 주셨어 감사합니다.
맞아요, 빌리 쌤은 다른 선생님들도 잘 추천해 주시죠? 저는 그 때는 아직 유튜브 안 했었어요 😅 근데 이번에 저랑도 콜라보해 주셔서 저도 너무 고마웠어요!
@인드라 어머! 인드라님이 빌리 님 추천으로 제 채널을 구독하셨네요. 감사합니다.😊
@@KoreanJream 맞아요! 그때 샘 채널 막 시작하셨을 때라고 하셨었죠. 그동안 샘 채널이 엄청나게 성장했네요!!
@@KoreanArah넵,. 벌써 1 년 넘네요 그 영상은 ruclips.net/video/BBisPopFv9M/видео.html
@@KoreanArah 그래도 팬데믹 동안 나름 열심히 살았나 봐요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 😂
BILLY! I wouldn’t dare call you a loser, and I think you should never do that to yourself either. Even if you’re joking.
Hey Billy...thanks for Helping me learning Korean....I easily understand your lessons on Hangul and I am on 50th video on your Hangul learning lessons but I don't know why it's still hard for me to understand korean and can't really Understand what am I lacking 😅
I choose a native teacher
In the first place, although they didn't learn korean as it is their mother tongue but they have equipped the necessary skills on how to teach students that particular language based on students' need as well.
And what's more, they speak Korean naturally and know 99% of the grammars and words, and also the perfect pronunciation which a non-native teacher might not be able to mastering Korean as in-depth as a native.
For those who picked non-native teacher because they learnt the language and knows the best way to learn the language, I would say that certain method suits certain person, other's learning method might just not the best fit for you, just my personal opinion 🌟
I really like your videos 🤩🤩
Why would there be so many different ways of saying “you” if a lot of them are going to end up being received as rude or awkward?
HI! I know this has nothing to do with the video but I wanted to ask something, I'm trying to figure out my Korean name but I wanted to be connected to my actual name so I came up with 김 천국 does it sound weird?
ruclips.net/video/poJu2NYVmOo/видео.html
Korean is beautiful. Id love to learn. What do yall suggest i start with learning with Billy? My daughter is Laos American so I speak some Lao. Please help...ty!!
I have a free course you can start with here: ruclips.net/video/sx0yyQqkpqo/видео.html
Awesome! Thank you so much Billy.
Shes jreamy 😍
I chose you as my teacher because you are NOT a native speaker. You are able to explain pronunciation of Korean in terms that an English speaker can easily understand.
This is an important thing! I hope more people see the advantage of having a non-native speaker when learning a new language! :)
Don’t forget to eat lots of fruits and vegetables, I love you.
Non native is waaay better and i mean waaaay better to me!
I just started learning korean and immediately realized that most to all native korean teachers just can't explain a lot of things well in english and they got accents i don't understand which makes it much more harder to learn the language.
And a non native teacher kinda gives me hope that i'll make it since i know they were once like me and now they can speak the language!
im trying to learn korean😘
I just keep switching resources
I still want to be like a native speaker lol
빌리쌤 구독자수에 비해 조회수가 너무 적게 나오네요.왜그런건지..일종의 교육 채널이라 그런건가...이유가 궁금해지네요
빌리쌤 화이팅!
korean Native
I'm doing self study any advise?
ruclips.net/video/7g7pznY4HAw/видео.html
@@GoBillyKorean You literally have a video for EVERYTHING 😲👍
Something is wrong with the camera, Jream doesn't look as pretty as usual.
Awwww this is sooooo sweet... thank you 🥰😅 We both were soaked in sweat and humidity with thunderstorm that kept us on standby for an hour ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ We started filming as soon as the rain stopped 😂
Now explain that to Asian schools that don’t allow non-natives to teach English...
Billy resembles Charlie puth lol😅
Yes, both complement each other BUT J has the edge because she is ultimately a native speaker who speaks perfect English, good enough for English speakers to learn under from an Korean authentic teacher. Say what you want, Billy is not good enough as his accent falls short of being natural, his knowledge may not be complete.
We actually talked about this exact issue with non-native teachers in the video :)
Accent aside, its a lot easier for me to learn from someone who has the experience learning and struggling just like I’m going through as well. I don’t think its fair to say that he’s “not good enough” simply because his accent isn’t perfect.
Her English is definitely not perfect
Thank you for being so generous about my English and great to see you here! 🙏 As you know, I always appreciate your love but let's also remember it's not a competition! No one has to choose one over the other! As C T said, my English is not perfect (no language learner can ever be perfect) but it is advanced enough for me to teach a certain topic in English... and it goes the same to Billy's Korean! 🥰 His Korean is advanced enough to teach it after vigorously learning it for years just like I learned English. We both put time and effort to prepare for classes, and I believe that is the most important thing as a teacher, right? We will continue our best to teach you all ❤️
just gonna go out on a limb and say the native speaker is better. no offense buddy