I can’t imagine how long Kratos must have kept that traumatic emotion bottled up and once it started to come out he couldn’t stop no matter how much Lloyd outright demanded him to stop
I always thought the Kratos route was supposed to be the canon one since it's the odd one out (spoilers) and focuses the most on Lloyd. It's also one of the harder routes to get in some of the ports (very difficult on your first playthrough) so you assume there's something special about it. Kind of disappointed it didn't turn out to be the case in the anime.
Also sucks that it leads to having to kill Zelos... for some reason. While I will fully admit I did not like Zelos at first, he grew on me real quick and my respect for him skyrocketed in Dawn of the New World. Although I didn't find this one overly hard to access. I made another save to see who was lined up for this scene. Much to my surprise, Kratos was the second one to show up (not so surprisingly, the first was Colette). And so far he's been in every lineup since even when I didn't really do anything to raise his affinity at all; at this point I'm about convinced that he's programmed to be one of the potential 4 scenes no matter what.
If you've only played the Gamecube version like I did he shows up in your lineup of people no matter how close you are. I mentioned ports because he doesn't show up if he isn't at least in your top 3 in the PS2 and PS3 versions, a little tough to get when he's mostly only in your party for the first quarter.
That I did not know... I've been playing the original because I don't have anything that can run a port right now (I do have the PC version, but my computer is an utter potato and can't really handle it for more than 15 minutes at a time). That said, it's still worlds easier than Zelos or Presea (the latter of who I have NEVER even had in the lineup) XD. Heck, even outside your party you can still do things to boost or lower his standing such as making certain replies to a few things Zelos says, or going to an optional skit point that happens to be nor far outside of Flanoir itself.
I assumed Colette's must be canon because their scene is basically spoiled for you in the game opening animation. Besides, it'd be too sad for Zelos's death to be canon. I hated him in the beginning, but now he's one of my faves. Such a tragic character. I think Zelos feels the most "real" out of all of the characters, if that makes sense.
oh you mean the anime where you met the main antagonist in a random mine? Yeah, say what you want, the visual and music are great, but fuck the narrative structure of the OVA/anime series of Tales of Symphonia.
When you realize he sung “We are one” from the Lion King 2 😱 His voice is so soothing Cam Clark is a sweet man in real life. Follow his RUclips channel he does wholesome stuff. 😃
Kratos: No..I am your Father Llyod: No..no that's not true...that is IMPOSSIBLE!! Kratos: Search your feelings and know to be true Llyod: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I am your Father, reenactment by Tales of Symphonia Cast XD
This is either the PS3 or PC version. Either way, they have almost zero cel-shading. Most of the textures also received an update too. The PC version allows for a mod that re-enables cel-shading and fixes a few other things.
You play this scene for this scene alone...and maybe that thing in Welgaia. Then you reset the game to your extra save file and bring the dead back to life.
And yet, not only would they later reference it in Abyss during the Tower of Rem event, but in the OVA’s omake sequences, they turned it into a straight-up gag involving Mithos bribing the animation staff!
Zelos is the best Symphonia charakter, Kratos is together with alvin the worst Charakter in any JRPG Traitor scum, should be possible to execute those Shits!
@@RealEvilLordExdeath I hope this is satire on both fronts my guy. Did you not pay attention to either of their character arcs? Cause like, this ain’t the one.
@@supergohansonic Satire? Believe me i take 5 Dezels for every one of them. They have no redemption, they deserve the most painfully slowest death possible. They lost the right to be called humans. there Charakter arcs are that they are the worst scum and because the groups not executes them as they can they poison the groups with there lies until the end of the games. If you really think Kratos or Alvin deserve another chance u can also give Hitler and Judas another chance as well.
I'm so sad I've never gotten this scene in the game. I feel like it's really important to the plot, such as other scenes and shouldn't be a possible side scene 😢
Good Thing The OVA Kept BOTH Kratos AND Zelos, Cause FOCK Choosing Between These 2, YES, Kratos Is A Better Fighter, But I Didnt Want Zelos, THE PERVERTED VOICE OF REASON, To Die.
yes, but it is very hard. You basically have to pick choices that she doesn't agree with and constantly cook dishes that use an ingredient she hates. (I think it is Pickles? but idk some guide probably has that written down). If you cook using ingredients a character hates, they lose 1 point in Affection. Which isn't a lot so you need to be cooking a lot to lower Colette's affection
Hi there uh me again i have another question about this...i just pasted the flanoir scene on my "first" play though of the game and my "first" i mean PS3 ive played this many times on the Gamecube but that was sometime ago so now im wondering... can you not get Kratos on your first go? as if i remember correctly it doesn't matter whom the first 3 are you just refuse all 3 and you get this scene...however in an attempt to do so i didnt get the option on the third person...so with that said did they change that? or am i rememering things wrong? or is it just second play though and up? as it has been many years since i last played though the game as i lost my gamecube version also thanks for the casino help ive gotten about half of what i need now :3
crud so basicly i mucked up kinda lame.... k so with that said how can i get it up so i can prep for my next playthough?...and while im at it is there any like method i can use to make collete hate him? or at least get lower not that i hate her just sick of her being the first one all the time especially when im try to do something like this also is there any sort of chart of those rainbow points on the map as i know those can get it up higher
cymonique matthew depending on the friendship points you develop with each party member they will knock on your door when you're in Flanoir (the night before they go to Derris-Kharlan). You get up to three knocks from different party members if you refuse any of them and I do believe if you refuse all three Kratos will call out to Lloyd (possibly depending on your friendship points with him as well but I've hardly had trouble with him). However, keep in mind if you do go with Kratos' scene you will lose Zelos as a party member.
iirc: If Kratos is your highest affection rating, or top 3 if you turn the other options away, you'll get him here and it will also change the rest of the story going forward.
+Kai Mar If you mean "how do you get this scene" and Kratos in your party later, then you just reject everyone that knocks on your door, then he'll call you from outside.
Also, be sure to take advantage of the Training With Kratos scenes at Inns. I think they begin when you first get to Palmacosta, so after every major event try resting at an inn. There's maybe 3 or 4, but rest everywhere you can. This will score you some points with him. Also, in story events when you have choices to make, make the ones that seem to side along with Kratos' ideas while he's on your team. For instance, Colette and Genis totally have do-gooder intentions for every situation, while Raine and Kratos are generally objective and will have more realistic ideas of what choices need to be made. The game pretty much traps you into trying to hook up with Colette, so avoid her as much as possible. Whenever Kratos is an opposing force, make choices that imply that you still trust him. When you instances where your team has to split up, like at Kvar's ranch, put him on your team. It's easy to get him on your side, you just have to be rational in your choices and not so much of a knight in shining armor.
From the wiki: "Since Kratos was human, and had no elven blood in his veins, unlike Mithos and Yuan, who were half-elves, he was forced to ingest a magical rock called "Aionis", which allowed him to cast magic and use magical weapons, in order to become an angel."
And that Lloyd...
Is how I met your mother.
And that's how you get Kratos back in your party permanently.
I can’t imagine how long Kratos must have kept that traumatic emotion bottled up and once it started to come out he couldn’t stop no matter how much Lloyd outright demanded him to stop
Maybe he also thought lloyd needed to hear the truth from him
Tales of Symphonia is definitely one of my favorite Tales of games.
This scene gets me for two reasons. Because it's the bestest scene in Flanoir. And because it makes Zelos die...
Yup. I hate that bastard haha
Yesh :D
Zelos isnt always so bad. but he certainly can be annoying.
Zelos isn't so bad. but Kratos is better
I always thought the Kratos route was supposed to be the canon one since it's the odd one out (spoilers) and focuses the most on Lloyd. It's also one of the harder routes to get in some of the ports (very difficult on your first playthrough) so you assume there's something special about it.
Kind of disappointed it didn't turn out to be the case in the anime.
Also sucks that it leads to having to kill Zelos... for some reason. While I will fully admit I did not like Zelos at first, he grew on me real quick and my respect for him skyrocketed in Dawn of the New World.
Although I didn't find this one overly hard to access. I made another save to see who was lined up for this scene. Much to my surprise, Kratos was the second one to show up (not so surprisingly, the first was Colette). And so far he's been in every lineup since even when I didn't really do anything to raise his affinity at all; at this point I'm about convinced that he's programmed to be one of the potential 4 scenes no matter what.
If you've only played the Gamecube version like I did he shows up in your lineup of people no matter how close you are. I mentioned ports because he doesn't show up if he isn't at least in your top 3 in the PS2 and PS3 versions, a little tough to get when he's mostly only in your party for the first quarter.
That I did not know... I've been playing the original because I don't have anything that can run a port right now (I do have the PC version, but my computer is an utter potato and can't really handle it for more than 15 minutes at a time).
That said, it's still worlds easier than Zelos or Presea (the latter of who I have NEVER even had in the lineup) XD. Heck, even outside your party you can still do things to boost or lower his standing such as making certain replies to a few things Zelos says, or going to an optional skit point that happens to be nor far outside of Flanoir itself.
I assumed Colette's must be canon because their scene is basically spoiled for you in the game opening animation.
Besides, it'd be too sad for Zelos's death to be canon. I hated him in the beginning, but now he's one of my faves. Such a tragic character. I think Zelos feels the most "real" out of all of the characters, if that makes sense.
oh you mean the anime where you met the main antagonist in a random mine? Yeah, say what you want, the visual and music are great, but fuck the narrative structure of the OVA/anime series of Tales of Symphonia.
There's something so weirdly comforting about how Kratos says "Lloyd" at the start. I love him 😭 ❤
That part is always the "trigger word" I use when I try to voice act like Cam Clarke.
When you realize he sung “We are one” from the Lion King 2 😱
His voice is so soothing
Cam Clark is a sweet man in real life. Follow his RUclips channel he does wholesome stuff. 😃
Kratos: No..I am your Father
Llyod: No..no that's not true...that is IMPOSSIBLE!!
Kratos: Search your feelings and know to be true
Llyod: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I am your Father, reenactment by Tales of Symphonia Cast XD
Hello babe
My princess
Wow, I didn't know how much better it looks with the transparency enabled.
This is either the PS3 or PC version. Either way, they have almost zero cel-shading. Most of the textures also received an update too. The PC version allows for a mod that re-enables cel-shading and fixes a few other things.
CAM CLARKE ♥
... unfortunately, this scene leads up to... well... if you've played this, you know. Did it once. NEVER AGAIN.
You play this scene for this scene alone...and maybe that thing in Welgaia. Then you reset the game to your extra save file and bring the dead back to life.
For Some Focked Up Reason, The Game Forces U To Make A Choice, Só U Can't Have Both, Huh?
I know, I love this scene but I hate the end result...😭
And yet, not only would they later reference it in Abyss during the Tower of Rem event, but in the OVA’s omake sequences, they turned it into a straight-up gag involving Mithos bribing the animation staff!
I didnt mind that ending, i liked havinv kratos back 😅
I love this scene, it wasn't very often you saw this side to Kratos. Same with Zelos.
Zelos is the best Symphonia charakter,
Kratos is together with alvin the worst Charakter in any JRPG
Traitor scum, should be possible to execute those Shits!
@@RealEvilLordExdeath I hope this is satire on both fronts my guy. Did you not pay attention to either of their character arcs? Cause like, this ain’t the one.
@@supergohansonic Satire?
Believe me i take 5 Dezels for every one of them. They have no redemption, they deserve the most painfully slowest death possible. They lost the right to be called humans.
there Charakter arcs are that they are the worst scum and because the groups not executes them as they can they poison the groups with there lies until the end of the games.
If you really think Kratos or Alvin deserve another chance u can also give Hitler and Judas another chance as well.
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Charakter?
@@BokuNoDensetsuNoHoshi Question?
I can't be the only one who cried at this scene😭
Man, I'm a noob to tales game picked the chronicles up for Symphonia and TO Xillia 1. I'm so happy I did. Love these games :)
The tales series is amazing. Understanding the stories is a belssing, and helps ppl mature in many ways.
Made me tear up :'(
I'm so sad I've never gotten this scene in the game. I feel like it's really important to the plot, such as other scenes and shouldn't be a possible side scene 😢
you gotta skip every one but that depress for em to lost touch in lloyd haha!
The beauty of this game is the forshadowing. Its so subtle but on a second playthrough you notice it
Good Thing The OVA Kept BOTH Kratos AND Zelos, Cause FOCK Choosing Between These 2, YES, Kratos Is A Better Fighter, But I Didnt Want Zelos, THE PERVERTED VOICE OF REASON, To Die.
well, kratos lived if you kept zelos anyway so it's not really that much different from the ova besides the fact you can't use him
When you have to chose between talk with your dad or flirt with your girlfriend & save a friend life....
Ofc I would rather talk with my dad. Especially if he looks so gorgeous lol
Some father and son lost quality time...
Kratos "Lloyd I'm batman"
Lol!
Best character
Is it ever possible to get Colette to hate you in three possible choices 😅
yes, but it is very hard. You basically have to pick choices that she doesn't agree with and constantly cook dishes that use an ingredient she hates. (I think it is Pickles? but idk some guide probably has that written down). If you cook using ingredients a character hates, they lose 1 point in Affection. Which isn't a lot so you need to be cooking a lot to lower Colette's affection
I'm crying. Every fucking time.
Wow i didn't know an HD version existed
awesome... lovev this game everyone should!
Did someone say my name boi
How do I get this I tried and nothing
Hi there uh me again i have another question about this...i just pasted the flanoir scene on my "first" play though of the game and my "first" i mean PS3 ive played this many times on the Gamecube but that was sometime ago so now im wondering... can you not get Kratos on your first go? as if i remember correctly it doesn't matter whom the first 3 are you just refuse all 3 and you get this scene...however in an attempt to do so i didnt get the option on the third person...so with that said did they change that? or am i rememering things wrong? or is it just second play though and up? as it has been many years since i last played though the game as i lost my gamecube version also thanks for the casino help ive gotten about half of what i need now :3
Kratos has to be at least 3rd on your affection for him to show up as of PS2. You can still get him on your first run.
crud so basicly i mucked up kinda lame.... k so with that said how can i get it up so i can prep for my next playthough?...and while im at it is there any like method i can use to make collete hate him? or at least get lower not that i hate her just sick of her being the first one all the time especially when im try to do something like this also is there any sort of chart of those rainbow points on the map as i know those can get it up higher
There's an affection guide on GameFaqs that has all the different choices and world skits.
Tales Stuff i was able to find it thanks but it says gamecube is it still the same in this version?
sonicrules364 The affection works the same.
WHY is this non-canon?!?!?
Pixel Cross Ask Zelos And U Will Find Out
Its cannon in tales of abyss
You want our poor Zelos to die?
Because tales of symphonia 2 suggests zelos you don’t kill zelos
How do you get the flanior scenes..?
cymonique matthew depending on the friendship points you develop with each party member they will knock on your door when you're in Flanoir (the night before they go to Derris-Kharlan). You get up to three knocks from different party members if you refuse any of them and I do believe if you refuse all three Kratos will call out to Lloyd (possibly depending on your friendship points with him as well but I've hardly had trouble with him). However, keep in mind if you do go with Kratos' scene you will lose Zelos as a party member.
thx so much
How do you get this cutscene?
iirc: If Kratos is your highest affection rating, or top 3 if you turn the other options away, you'll get him here and it will also change the rest of the story going forward.
Why is lloyd's voice different its suppose to sound like robin from teen titans/ teen titans go
+Jeremy Cox It's not different at all.
how do u get this scene in the game
Get enough bond with kratos
+Nipah EveryDay (did nothing wrong) k thanks
+Anony Mous k thanks ☺️
Actually, you have to refuse to talk to anyone when you get to this scene in Flanoir. After that, Kratos shows up.
how do you get kratos 2 come
+Kai Mar If you mean "how do you get this scene" and Kratos in your party later, then you just reject everyone that knocks on your door, then he'll call you from outside.
I mean how do u get em 2 call u
Also, be sure to take advantage of the Training With Kratos scenes at Inns. I think they begin when you first get to Palmacosta, so after every major event try resting at an inn. There's maybe 3 or 4, but rest everywhere you can. This will score you some points with him.
Also, in story events when you have choices to make, make the ones that seem to side along with Kratos' ideas while he's on your team. For instance, Colette and Genis totally have do-gooder intentions for every situation, while Raine and Kratos are generally objective and will have more realistic ideas of what choices need to be made. The game pretty much traps you into trying to hook up with Colette, so avoid her as much as possible.
Whenever Kratos is an opposing force, make choices that imply that you still trust him.
When you instances where your team has to split up, like at Kvar's ranch, put him on your team.
It's easy to get him on your side, you just have to be rational in your choices and not so much of a knight in shining armor.
***** o yea ik this now i brought him bac plenty of times im good with it i got him 2 2nd place
Ard so how do u talk 2 zelos
So is kratos an half elf or human this always confused me
Kratos is a human with an extended lifespan due to angelification.
@@gigified558 but the only way to become an angel is if you're a elf or a chosen
From the wiki:
"Since Kratos was human, and had no elven blood in his veins, unlike Mithos and Yuan, who were half-elves, he was forced to ingest a magical rock called "Aionis", which allowed him to cast magic and use magical weapons, in order to become an angel."
@@gigified558 oh yeah the same thing that zelos used
Can u tell me exactly how 2 get em
how do u get this 2 come
LJS ENT look up an affection guide for Kratos.
NOpe you just skip everyone justsay no to every one you talk.
Kratos is a wussy.
What, how?