the moment that RUINED Bran Stark in Game of Thrones

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  • @mylittlethoughttree
    @mylittlethoughttree  8 дней назад +5

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    • @samlerf
      @samlerf 7 дней назад

      Macabre storytelling has great Game of Thrones/Asof videos. You know them?

    • @ninclow5421
      @ninclow5421 7 дней назад

      These breakdowns are really well done! Kudos! Do you have a playlist with all of them in one chance by any chance?

  • @Alexander-kc8oq
    @Alexander-kc8oq 8 дней назад +136

    George: I like writing about the human heart in conflict with itself
    D&D: How about making Bran an emotionless statue?

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 7 дней назад +1

      You realise the same thing will happen in the books, right?

    • @brunopereira6789
      @brunopereira6789 7 дней назад +3

      ​@@HOTD108_ even if he becomes "detached" in this way, the whole process will make more sense, and the specifics will be better

    • @fordhouse8b
      @fordhouse8b 6 дней назад +2

      @@HOTD108_ Sure, but hopefully he will become an emotionless statue that DOES things. one that takes action or causes others to take action. I mean, what did he really accomplish? He was no threat to the Night King. The White walkers could have simply ignored him in that big battle. Maybe killed him after everybody else was dead. Instead the one figure whose demise would destroy all the other Walkers, and all of their zombies decided to place himself exactly in a position where it was physically possible for him to get got. If the Night King had simply stayed 50 miles away from the whole battle, he would have won. All Bran did was sit there and wait, and spout platitudes. Supposedly the Night King wanted him dead because he was a living record of humanities stories, but so what? He rarely shared any stories about anything with anybody. What good is a repository of human knowledge if he just sits there and says basically nothing?

    • @lusinebaghyan8864
      @lusinebaghyan8864 День назад

      ​@@HOTD108_ who says that? He'll most likely become the king of 6-7 kingdoms, but why is it an sure thing for him to become an emotionless robot?

  • @MayhapsYes
    @MayhapsYes 8 дней назад +85

    There's no real relationship in the show with Bran, Summer, Hodor, Jojen, and Meera. D&D never wrote anything developing their relationships. From the book, Bran treats Hodor with so much love (giving him the best food from the harvest festival) yet would steal his body thru warging as he doesn't see any consequence to it because he's a child. Hodor's soul is huddled in a corner shuddering from fear but Bran uses his body as he dreams of walking again. There's no such dynamic in the show.

    • @josephbulkin9222
      @josephbulkin9222 8 дней назад +19

      To say nothing about how he just tells the Reed kids he can go into Hodor's mind, and they dont get fazed by it at all.

    • @autumnsierra2401
      @autumnsierra2401 7 дней назад +11

      ​@@josephbulkin9222right especially when hodor is in obvious distress.

  • @joshliam1967
    @joshliam1967 8 дней назад +67

    Never realized before that part of why Bran's arc didn't do anything for me was because I forgot Meera's name before watching this video...she deserved so much more of a character arc herself.

  • @WatashiMachineFullCycle
    @WatashiMachineFullCycle 8 дней назад +89

    I have been WAITING for somebody to make this video. I find Bran to be a terribly tragic character - much like Arya, he's a young child who has been violently ripped from his family and thrust into life threatening dangers. His internal monologue seems to believe that Bloodraven is some kindly old wizard from the stories who will heal his legs and give him special powers to reuinte with his family. The passage from Bran III in Dance where he daydreams about him and his siblings being ravens in Maester Lewin's rookery, then shaking himself out of it and thinking "that's a stupid kid dream, becoming a greenseer is as good as I could hope for so I gotta grow up and accept my fate" it genuinely shatters my heart every time I read it. There's something very sinister about Bloodraven and the children, and how they are using this child for their own ends, however noble they may think them to be. Like most of the storylines in latter GoT, it seems that the writers didn't know how to approach it and thus all the soul (literally in this case) is sucked out of it.

    • @WatashiMachineFullCycle
      @WatashiMachineFullCycle 8 дней назад +9

      Sidenote, I also believe the Jojen paste theory, and while I do believe that the end of the books will involve Bran "becoming king" as people have said George did tell them this was his plan - we don't know what he meant by "King". I do not think he meant sitting the iron throne. These books have consistently been anti-monarchy, and the iron throne is meant to be viewed as a sinister thing. King of the north? Perhaps. King beyond the wall? Symbolic king? It's difficult to say at this point until we have more to read. But I very much doubt it was ever meant to be taken as "Bran will sit the iron throne and be the next king of Westeros".

  • @jarektempleton2104
    @jarektempleton2104 8 дней назад +98

    It’s actually even sadder bringing all these points up because with the adaptation being such a flop, it makes me look that much more forward to A Dream of Spring’s ending, but…

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 8 дней назад +5

      But it will always remain a dream

    • @autumnsierra2401
      @autumnsierra2401 7 дней назад

      If you look at interviews you can see the writers of HBO fully rely on George's writings up until season 6 and of course they made dumb changes even with that background work already done for them. What I'm saying is George isn't an idiot and created 5 books we love and adore I'm sure the last two will be just as amazing.

    • @miguelluciotto2378
      @miguelluciotto2378 7 дней назад +2

      If he ever finish them

  • @ethantaylor9613
    @ethantaylor9613 8 дней назад +45

    I feel that how they did Rickon, and Shaggy for that matter, effects the quality of Bran’s story indirectly

  • @DSBreadcake
    @DSBreadcake 8 дней назад +57

    It's disappointing because the character's rejection of who they are, with little to no pay off or consequence, is a thing that happens with the other Stark kids too. Arya's character arc starts with her rejecting her family, her role within it, and her identity for an all consuming quest for vengeance, only for her to learn that this is a mistake and to head back home to embrace her family and who she is. Instead the show made her this near emotionless killing machine that still only really has vengeance as a goal. Her internal conflict is hand waved away and as a result she learns nothing.

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 8 дней назад +8

      Yeah, and Sansa gets SA'd into a badass!
      Honestly, i have troubles thinking of any satisfying arc resolutions in the series..great build-up, even bigger let down!

    • @DSBreadcake
      @DSBreadcake 8 дней назад +9

      @@saraa.4295 that being the thing the writers used as her reason for her becoming a competent political player, and not the prior 5 seasons of her being stuck in and learning how to survive in the most dangerous political situation possible down in Kings landing was wild. Like, they explicitly showed her growing through insane hardship but cast that aside completely for the "abused woman becomes powerful" trope. Absolutely unforgivable.

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 8 дней назад +5

      @@DSBreadcake yeah..the last season (some might say the last two, but i'm gonna be generous here) really feel like they just wanted this show be finished all ready.
      Not rushed as in: we were forced to work fast, but rushed it: let's get it over with, so we can finally move on!

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 8 дней назад +5

      @@saraa.4295 Not only that, by the end of the show, Sansa was completely under the influence of Littlefinger and Ramsay and none of Ned.
      She rattled Daenerys by leaking the news about Jon on purpose. She usurped the throne from Jon and banished him and she gained independence (while everyone else couldn’t) mainly via nepotism.
      Sansa is now a Machiavellian politician.
      Arya is a psychotic serial killer who abandoned her family.
      Bran is an emotionless surveillance dictator.
      The remaining three Starks are all the most evil versions for each of them.

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 8 дней назад +2

      @@nont18411 well put..
      Some i guess will happen in the book. I personally believe Arya will to a certain degree become "damaged beyond repair" ..the trauma of her travels to the riverlands, the brainwashing by the faceless men, things she will still do..she will certainly not live a home hearth and family ending.
      I personally believe she will warg into Nymeria and live as a wolf, escaping guilt and loneliness forever.
      Sanda will become more political than her parents ever were, but she will find a treasure the values of honor and family as well. I actually believe she will be on an anti Danaerys track, but not so damn obvious..maybe young griff could play a role.
      If the north will be independent...i kinda doubt it, it just doesn't make sense..at least not alone...
      As for Bran, again, i think bloodraven will take over Bran almost completely..which would make him becoming king make sense..
      I do believe Sansa will end up Lady of Winterfell..perhaps as a guardian to Robbs baby or married to a truly good man...
      Without Lady Stoneheart (who will probably End the Freys) and Griff (who will probably challenge Dany in a way that tbe common people, who will prefer him to her, become her enemy) ot was impossible for the show to hit those notes in a way that made sense..

  • @adoreandu-bookish-e4u
    @adoreandu-bookish-e4u 8 дней назад +18

    What if I told you I forgot Jojen died altogether... As far as the show went, Bran's last scene of any impact was "hold the door", there was nothing after that.

    • @jessjess23brooks89
      @jessjess23brooks89 8 дней назад +6

      Especially considering in the books, Jojen does make it into the cave with Meera, Bran and Hodor. And then... We never see him again. There's a theory which is perhaps one of the most set in stone theories in the ASOIAF universe that Jojen dies or more likely is murdered by the children so they can mix bits of him up into a paste they feed Bran who eats it unknowingly to commune with the weirwood.
      DnD dropped the ball so hard on the darker aspects of greenseeing and the dodgy aspect of us not really knowing yet what Bloodraven and the children's true intentions are and even if they are "good", what kind of dark magic has to take place in order to complete their goals. I think being fed his friend to imbue ancient magic might make Bran, a literal child, suspicious and disgusted, no? DnD's inability to understand or fill in this dark, ancient greenseeing magic also completely stunts Bran's character.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 8 дней назад +2

      @@jessjess23brooks89 They seemed to abandon so many magical elements in the show and then forced it so much in the final 3 seasons before going back to Machiavellian politics again in the final 3 episodes (even though the white walkers threat should have been there until the end because “A Song of *ICE* and Fire”). The first case in point about them not caring about magic: The omission of Lady Stoneheart.

  • @DianaMejia-en8uw
    @DianaMejia-en8uw 7 дней назад +10

    The moment in the books where Bran, Lewin, Osha and Rickon receive word of Ned’s death is one of my favorite moments in the whole of ASOIAF. The way he dreams of saying goodbye to his father, the way their wolves start to howl before the raven arrives with the news, Lewins voice breaking and tears in his eyes as Rickon loses it. I always thought Bran’s chapters mirrored Sansa’s very well in that you see a young boy with dreams of knights and gallantry have his world shattered and how that begins to change him and force him into adulthood, especially as he takes the mantle of Lord of Winterfell. In more ways than one Bran is being violently forced to leave behind his boyhood and become something more. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the first chapter is Bran having to witness a beheading and accept it as the way of this world. Becoming a man and/or becoming the Three Eyed Raven are both cruel, unjust journeys and they’re both happing to such a young boy. I didn’t feel much of that was included in GOT and his character arc suffered greatly because of it.

  • @CaptainPikeachu
    @CaptainPikeachu 8 дней назад +17

    Bran had the potential to be a really amazing character who could shine in the later seasons, and Isaac is a wonderful actor, it’s such a shame that the show lost the character and turned him into a plot device.

  • @mechistarvily5078
    @mechistarvily5078 8 дней назад +18

    Bran is one of my favorite characters in asoiaf. It's a shame what they did to him in the show

  • @annihlud6569
    @annihlud6569 8 дней назад +13

    I think that there should have been conflict between Meera and Bran because from Meera's perspective this trip has been orchestrated by an unknown entity that has unknown intentions manipulating her brother and a scared little kid. The three eyed crow/Brynden Rivers should not be assumed to have any of these character's or even the world's best interest at heart. Because he is just an old man in a tree that sends visions saying anything to get them to arrive. Maybe he does have good intentions, maybe not. How can they know for sure.
    Jojen beleived in the visions, Meera was skeptical in the books, and Bran is somewhere in the middle. He wants to believe in the visions and in the Three Eyed Crow because it means he is no longer just a disabled kid and is instead someone important beyond being the son of important people. I haven't reread the books in a long time but I think that in the second book Bran said something along the lines that when people see him and think he can't hear them make comments about how it would have been merciful to have let him die instead of being disabled. He starts the story at 7 years old and these ideas do stick with him. In the 5th book he tells himself that no one would want to marry him because he is disabled and this belief is why he goes along with the visions and lessons. Because even if he has no idea what any of it means or leads to it is in his mind the only way forward for himself.
    But his powers do cause harm. Hodor hates it when Bran changes into his skin. Bran describes Hodor as a beaten dog that retreats whenever he changes into Hodor. Bran on some level knows what he is doing is wrong because he does not tell the Reeds. If it was no big deal then why would Bran hide it?
    And this is not even including the times when bran has eaten human flesh as both a dire wold and as a human. Or the possibility that he ate Jojen.
    I see the potential for a lot of heartbreak. Bran having to decide if he cares about the people around him as people and is willing to limit his usage of his powers. Or if he is willing to use the people around him as props for his own agency and self affirmation. No longer a disabled kid but as a god. Jojen called the weirwood trees the old gods, and Bran can change his skin into a weirwood tree making him a god or something adjacent to a god.
    Meera who lost her brother should be in conflict with Bran over this. Bran might get upset and feel this is a betrayal from Meera, since he feels agency from his lessons. And Meera wants to take it away. Bran has a crush a on Meera, and he is friends with Hodor. While I don't see any chance of a romantic pairing because of the age gap in the books, I see the conflict being that Bran has to choose between these two people and by extension his family or power. He can not have both.
    Conflicts: Bran's internalised ableism that came about from the people around him. Meera & Hodor vs Power/Agency away from the good will of others. Internal reconciliation of the harm he has already done (What he did to Hodor was not ok, and if he did eat Jojen what he did to Jojen was fucked up. And I am sure that Meera, and Howland would have feelings on the matter).
    And all of this is without even getting into whatever the Three Eyed Crow and the Children of the Forest are up to.
    PS The Three Eyed Crow, aka Brynden Rivers killed his brothers to secure the reign of a different brother. He chose power at the expense of people he should theoretically have been close to. It wasn't all on him. But it is a mirror to Bran.

  • @kyantechristian9747
    @kyantechristian9747 8 дней назад +15

    I think the biggest problem is that he was just an emotionless character. Without other characters around him to add depth he was almost just an extra. Wish they showed him conflicted with his new role and abilities instead of just sitting around with a blank expression.

  • @samuelault4723
    @samuelault4723 8 дней назад +7

    I still can’t believe he finally found the 3 eyed raven and then we went a whole season without seeing him

  • @NonAnonD
    @NonAnonD 8 дней назад +14

    we are so disgustingly back

  • @PacificEgg
    @PacificEgg 8 дней назад +19

    The actor needed glasses, but without them they give him a far off creepy look, so they leaned into it 😂

  • @thecobe-lee9674
    @thecobe-lee9674 8 дней назад +9

    Admittedly, I haven't finished all of the books yet, but I can totally see a world where Bran seizes political power using his abilities, specifically to halt the infighting and get people to unify around dealing with the threat of the Others. An act that would be ostensibly good, but could be carried out in some disconcerting ways, and which would ultimately also be somewhat self-serving. Perhaps echoing the three-eyed crow/bloodraven in more than just name

    • @edmann1820
      @edmann1820 8 дней назад +5

      Hive minded consciousnesses are a theme in GRRM's other work. They're usually the real threat that the characters don't see coming. He also almost never does happy endings. Bittersweet is about as happy as it gets. So if Bran does end up on the throne it's not a going to be a good thing. The CoF are probably the real threat. I think in one of Bran's chapters he asks the COF why they're helping him. As if what had been done to them had been done to men, men would seek vengence.

  • @edmann1820
    @edmann1820 8 дней назад +8

    I don't think the problems with showBran are Bran specific. It started with Daenerys. Emilia Clarke would code switch when trying to appear powerful or commanding. She gets this unemotional dead eyed look and monotone delivery. In later seasons this extended to other characters. As if this style of delivery had been established with the audience as meaning I'm powerful. So doing something different would confuse them/us. You see it with Sansa, Arya, Bran and it's frequency increases with Daenerys. It really became a message of the show. Power = No emotion.

  • @jodieg6318
    @jodieg6318 8 дней назад +4

    Oddly, or rather not oddly enough, what GOT failed to do with Bran's character over several seasons was accomplished by Avatar The Last Airbender in one episode The Deserter. Essentially Bran and Aang are facing the same dilemma of learning a dangerous magic technique and are shown first hand what can happen when it gets out of control, but instead of this being a keystone moment in the character's journey it becomes more of a damp squib moment as it has little to no effect on Bran where in Aang's case it becomes an emotional recall whenever fire bending comes up and ultimately becomes part of his character's growth as it's a consistent part of the story.

  • @PacificEgg
    @PacificEgg 8 дней назад +7

    I missed you and your train across the water!!!

  • @jackwalsh6758
    @jackwalsh6758 8 дней назад +2

    Tyrion - "...and who has a better story, than Bran the broken"
    Stansfield - "EVERYONE!!"

  • @SelphieTheNutter
    @SelphieTheNutter 8 дней назад +4

    I think that they should have added more backstory to the children of the forest to fill in the gaps in brabs training. Leaving their perspective until last minute and using it as a climax fir brans training ark was a big mistake.
    We created the white walkers, the end.
    Had they put more depth into the children, they could have expanded on Brans training and featured him more in season 6. If they where willing to explore the magic that was creating Bran, by giving the children more of a reason to be in the story, then I think the changes in Brans character would have made more sense.
    Instead we got, look theres another person in the trees roots, Oh well, lets move on. We created the white walkers, bye Bran have fun being the 3 eyed raven.

  • @arcadedomination8006
    @arcadedomination8006 8 дней назад +6

    Robo Bran should have had a scene with Meera where he speaks 'for' the human Bran in the back of their hivemind.
    Imagine the cold emotionless part apologising and speaking past Bran's thoughts and feelings as a last form of consolidation. Then you could argue this part does it only for manipulation, to keep Meera and the rest on the side of the hivemind. But at least it sparks debate, is Bran still in there and nudging his new form to stay a bit more human, or is it all an act that uses Bran's form as a puppet?
    There could have been a real 'Get Out' style scene where human Bran jumps back into his body and begs them to keep him there, or kill him. And then the hivemind assures them that without it they cannot defeat the Night King, and they're faced with a horrific dilemma.

  • @joaodalcastanher8609
    @joaodalcastanher8609 5 дней назад

    I think that what I wanted to see from Bran and the whole three eyed raven plot-line would be more of the conflict that would be to learn a lot. How Bran would be overwhelmed with knowledge and would be so emotionally distressed that he might go into shock sometimes. Would give a better dinamic to the Stark plot in the war to have to support their brother while trying to find ways to defeat the walkers. Maybe learning of Jon's past breaking his vows would make Bran dislike him, maybe seeing Aria's training would influence him into being more invested in his family, in his friends, wouldn't cost too much to include scenes where Aria talks to a brother she had a "childish rivalry" about their trainings, the sacrifices, both became sort of no one and that would be a really good scene of showing what exactly they feel and their responsability.

  • @luana.passos
    @luana.passos 8 дней назад +3

    Exactly! The show ruin so many of Bran's caracter for the only pourpose to rush its ending. In the books, he will have much more importance.
    Love your asoiaf takes! Waiting for your Jon videos (if your planning to make it) 😍

  • @Qamon23
    @Qamon23 6 дней назад +1

    The best part about the Bran the Broken scene was that the show writers had the gumption to lecture their audience on the importance of good story writing

  • @Hondenzijngevaarlijk
    @Hondenzijngevaarlijk 8 дней назад +7

    Bran literally died during the cave scène. Bran was warging into Hodor while being in the past and when Bloodraven's body died Bloodraven took over Bran's body and that's why Bran got stuck in Hodor in the past where Bran has been ever since. That's why Hodor happened and Bran died while still being in Hodor's body the moment Hodor died. All Bran scenes after the cave is bloodraven in Bran's body. So it really is very tragic and future Bran had been observing himself growing up while stuck inside Hodor knowing the future and not being able to do anything about it.
    Bran and Meera also say this during their last scène together. Bran says he's not really Bran anymore. Meera says that he died in that cave.
    When bloodraven/bran's body is asked if he wants to be king he says: 'why do you think I came all this way?' That does not make sense for someone who never wanted to be king. He manipulated events so that he would be king including pushing Danearys's insecurities by revealing Jon's parents which caused a lot of people to die.
    Future Bran already being inside Hodor is also why it was so easy for Bran to warg into Hodor.
    Bloodraven has been manipulating events from the beginning by warging into animals and giving people visions. Ending up on the throne was his goal from the beginning and we do get to see what he cares about when he's king: Dragons. He shows interest in the location of the last remaining dragon which makes sense because bloodraven is a Targaryan.
    I think the idea of this is great. It makes it so much more interesting and fun to rewatch the show knowing this and the ending makes a lot more sense. But sadly it was executed poorly so it's not as awesome as it could have been and most people don't even see the big plottwist so that makes it even worse. They should have taken more time to make this clear and Bran becoming king was weird the way it was done but I love the idea of what I think it was suppose to be.

    • @edmann1820
      @edmann1820 8 дней назад +6

      It's a great idea as far as head cannon goes. I don't think D&D would ever be clever enough to think of it though.

    • @Hondenzijngevaarlijk
      @Hondenzijngevaarlijk 8 дней назад +2

      @@edmann1820 I think George rr Martin thought of it but the show makers didn't know about it during the first seasons. I think they were told when they ran out of books but by then too many changes had been made and they didn't adjust to that properly.

    • @mylittlethoughttree
      @mylittlethoughttree  8 дней назад +6

      I"d agree it's a really cool idea but it's not what d&d wrote. Bran says he's not really bran anymore but that "I remember what it felt like to be bran." I think if your theory is correct, they would've extracted far more tragedy out of it rather than just leave it so vague and unexplored that no one really notices. D&d love big cinematic twists. They would've absolutely made that one front and centre

    • @HellmotherEva
      @HellmotherEva 7 дней назад +1

      WHAT.
      OMG.
      This makes so much more sense now! IF this was the intention of D&D they did NOT convey it well. What you wrote is so well thought out, everything starts making sense and I will cling to this until (if) George ever keeps writing.

    • @Hondenzijngevaarlijk
      @Hondenzijngevaarlijk 7 дней назад

      @@mylittlethoughttree Not everything Bran says has to be true. If bloodraven had told people the truth they would not have trusted him. He had to explain not having Bran's personality anymore without revealing his true identity and he'd been following Bran his whole life and he even had acces to (some of) Bran's thoughts so he could pretend being Bran. I agree it's odd that there has not been more focus on it if D&D knew and even if they overestimated the audience and thought it would be clear this way, I'd expect some kind of explanation afterwards because they must have noticed people don't get it. But maybe they realized it wouldn't do their reputation any good when people know because they still messed it up horribly. Maybe they're planning something with the other shows and somehow do a big reveal later. Or they're giving George the honor of blowing everyone's minds with his books if that ever happens. It's very unclear how much the show makers understood. Maybe they were told some of the details and they used them without understanding what it actually meant. Maybe that's what they're trying to say with house of the dragon because that's also about miscommunication. 😂

  • @alexiavya722
    @alexiavya722 7 дней назад

    I think something I found surprisingly important about Brans characterization in the books that is mostly missing from the show is his title as Prince of Winterfell. I feel like his time with Luwin will inform how he will try to manage a kingdom and how his time with bloodraven has corrupted his normal world into a frozen perch watching the rest of the world.

  • @Scerttle
    @Scerttle 6 дней назад +1

    I honestly thought the show was building towards Bran being the Night King and having created the others as an accidental side effect of trying to stop his creation. It possibly would have ended up being somewhat obvious. But imagine if Jon/Arya/Sansa's solution to the walker problem was kill their warging brother.

  • @snowfall-love
    @snowfall-love 8 дней назад +1

    thank you for a new video ! it’s always nice to hear your thoughts on asoiaf :)

  • @itsmainelyyou5541
    @itsmainelyyou5541 8 дней назад +2

    I ended up being so disappointed with Bran's character, I just didn't care about him by the end. He's a search engine. Yay.
    I want to say there's a theory that it is in fact Brynden who warged Bran's body- which would be interesting, if they'd made that deliberate choice. Brynden has a personality. They showed none of this possibility. The most simple question is why Bloodraven has a personality after being the 3 eyed raven for decades, while melded with a weirwood, in a cave, and Bran has none. He doesn't need to flat to be all knowing. It makes no sense. A waste.

  • @ptolover7
    @ptolover7 8 дней назад +1

    Definitely agree with you on pretty much all of this. I'm sure he'll end up king in the books too (if we ever get the books), but I have no doubt it will be led up to properly and will actually make sense. Him being chosen because he "has the best story" (he doesn't) and that everyone, from the Martell to the Greyjoy and everyone in between, just agrees to it! Every part of that makes me cringe watching it

  • @user-luciddream
    @user-luciddream 8 дней назад +3

    i love bran in the books. im sad hes so hated 😞😞

    • @snowfall-love
      @snowfall-love 8 дней назад +2

      every time someone says he’s boring, a fairy dies

  • @txbiaz
    @txbiaz 7 дней назад

    idk why but something about your interaction with rafael the nord vpn guy really made my day

  • @wingy200
    @wingy200 7 дней назад +1

    I actually hate Bran becoming king. Maybe it'll make more sense in the book after George can explain why in the story, but the way they did it in the show was out of the blue and jarring. I actually laughed when I first saw that scene. It's just absurd.

  • @Anna-hg3yq
    @Anna-hg3yq 7 дней назад

    What a great take! I was actually wondering when you might come out with a new video just a few days ago, and was hoping for a GoT one! Thanks so much!

  • @JB-vq6oe
    @JB-vq6oe 8 дней назад +2

    Great analysis, as usual!

  • @snowfall-love
    @snowfall-love 8 дней назад

    the transition to the add was very clever ! go thought tree!!

  • @soyevquirsefron990
    @soyevquirsefron990 11 часов назад

    If D&D wrote the entire series with the dismissive haste they had by season 7, in s1ep1 Hodor would hold the door for Sansa to go into the wheelhouse and there would be Disney product placement inside and that would be the end of both their arcs.

  • @soyevquirsefron990
    @soyevquirsefron990 12 часов назад

    I’d read the books several times over the decade and I didn’t think even season 1 was good enough to match my vision so I didn’t watch any of it as it got popular. Then when the ending came near, I knew I’d be hearing about it so I quickly binged seasons 6-8 because that’s where the differences from the books were, and then watched the ending as it came out. The whole thing I was thinking “this really isn’t that great” and then “this is stupid” and it totally confirmed my initial opinion that it was never good. Turns out, I’d skipped watching the only parts worth watching at all!

  • @salomealhusami594
    @salomealhusami594 6 дней назад

    I missed listening to your voice a lot. Love your analysis!

  • @diablorose
    @diablorose 7 дней назад +1

    The scene with him and Sansa makes my skin crawl

  • @AlbertoFolres
    @AlbertoFolres 3 дня назад

    Dumb & Dumber had no idea the importance of Bran and the plot-twist of Dany.
    That's why they ignored Bran and gave Dany an exaggerated liked personality

  • @Void7.4.14
    @Void7.4.14 12 часов назад

    It would've been mad nice to see him struggle with the means and ends. Everyone should, very few do, but it makes for great storytelling.
    Cause he should be absolutely horrified by what he does to Hodor, among other things. But it should be a conflict because he may see it as what was necessary to achieve a greater good, something he did when he was young, as well as the conflict between what he's been told and what he feels (like being told some things are abominations but seeing little to no harm in em, maybe even some benefits, etc). But nah, none of that lol

  • @FastNCurious88
    @FastNCurious88 8 дней назад

    Something changed him when he was touched/grabbed by the Nightking....

  • @KariNA-bc6ex
    @KariNA-bc6ex 3 дня назад

    After he gets possessed by the 3 eyed raven he became the big bad of the show. He used his powers to make all the others behave TOTALLY out of character...that's my head Canon anyway

  • @saraa.4295
    @saraa.4295 8 дней назад +1

    Bran will not be King
    Bloodraven will!
    I think Bran's Arc will remain a bit passiv..since un the books we can see his thoughts i assume we will see how there will be less and less Bran and i think his Arc might be wether to fight it or not.
    The series never could have fone that as we have no access to thought nor was bloodraven developed as "who he was"

  • @ccorvid
    @ccorvid 8 дней назад

    great video! agreed on all points.

  • @guywithdacap4713
    @guywithdacap4713 8 дней назад

    0:50: "... so let´s just stark!"

  • @Valir_
    @Valir_ 4 дня назад

    My favorite character in fiction, i love Bran so much man

  • @saltybbq3165
    @saltybbq3165 7 дней назад

    Bran was abscent from season 5 was because the actor had to focus on completing his education

  • @rileyobrien8349
    @rileyobrien8349 4 дня назад

    I think bran should have grown extra arms

  • @The_jack_of_clubs
    @The_jack_of_clubs 7 дней назад

    I think youre probably spot on. He stops being a charecter. its not even he becomes 1 dimensional. he becomes nothing.

  • @saranonimus9211
    @saranonimus9211 8 дней назад +3

    I hated Bran becoming king. Maybe GRRM can/will pull it off, but in the show, it was just a lazy cop-out. Plus, it annoys me when the physical functioning of characters is unrealistic. For example, while it's ok to include characters pissing/pooping, the only time a character notably menstruates is when Sansa "flowers." Fine, we don't need a lot of references to that, but Brienne lives in armor, and at some point, it's gotta be a problem. And Bran...are we never going to address how he relieves himself and the assistance that must require? If they want me to buy into these characters, the realism does matter.

  • @geoninja3631
    @geoninja3631 8 дней назад

    💜

  • @quinnzel316
    @quinnzel316 8 дней назад +2

    first

  • @JB-vq6oe
    @JB-vq6oe 8 дней назад +2

    Honestly, I started reading George’s A Song of Ice and Fire: A Game of Thrones… and I wasn’t impressed. I mean yes it was well done as far as the interwoven politics, but that’s about it. George is NOT a fantasy or sci-fi writer and is more about shock value after building things (OMG he killed that character?!). He’s along the lines of Stephen King in that aspect (who also happens to be another author I can’t read anymore because he got predictably boring…), and it only works so well for so long.
    The tv show just kind of highlighted that, only it was worse because it altered characters and living/dying when they shouldn’t be, etc.
    Bran shouldn’t be king. I can first remember the idea of a person having the collected memories or history of a people from a Tamora Pierce book, Woman Who Rides Like A Man (her Alanna character), where the prince, Jonathan, becomes the inherited memory-keeper of the desert-people that the more “civilized” people have historically skirmished with from time to time. This makes sense, however, because it’s collected memories from dozens of generations of the lives of those keepers, rather than access to THE WHOLE OF HISTORY, and makes him not only king of his kingdom but leader of the desert people and finally unites them. THAT makes sense.
    George’s shock-value ideas don’t.

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 8 дней назад +7

      I disagree on George just building on shock..i think he he is an intricate world builder with motivations that make sense. And i don't think in the books, bran will be king because he has the knowledge of humanity, but because he will be taken over by bloodraven who was one of the saviest dudes who ever lived..
      More importantly though: i'm thrilled to find another Tamora Pierce reader in this comment section! I loved her books as a teen ;)

    • @JB-vq6oe
      @JB-vq6oe 8 дней назад

      @@saraa.4295 i can respect the disagreement :) I do admit I didn’t mention his world building, as he does do a good job at that and most character motivations make sense within the context of the world, though I do feel some conflict as if some people suddenly get schizophrenic and make weird decisions out of nowhere, like watching a soap opera and going “Come on, no one’s actually going to react like that! It’s only for the drama!” But I digress 😅
      Glad to meet another as well

    • @saraa.4295
      @saraa.4295 8 дней назад +2

      @@JB-vq6oe me too..i think i read the first Alanna book when i was abou 13, and every other series since them i own them in german and english (i'm swiss and was not fluent in english as a teen)..
      My favorite is the trickster duo..
      I have not yet read numairs origin...are they good?
      I really hope one day these books find their way to the screen too.
      (Not now..right now they try to make everything the GOT and that would suvk)

    • @bonbonvegabon
      @bonbonvegabon 8 дней назад +1

      bahahah King writes like a child lol Georges books are complicated for smart people lol

    • @JB-vq6oe
      @JB-vq6oe 8 дней назад

      @@saraa.4295 actually those are the only stories I haven’t read myself, funny enough.
      I keep meaning to just go out and buy everything, especially since I have a young teenage daughter myself now, but I thoroughly enjoyed Trickster’s Choice and Trickster’s Queen.
      I am attempting to learn German, and I don’t think I’m doing terrible, since a lot of English is built off older Germanic languages. I think knowing more than one language is great!
      I agree that they should be made in video format, as hour-long episodes and each book is a season, but more than 8-10 episodes per season, as tv shows have gotten ridiculous with less and less episodes per season nowadays. And yes, the GOT treatment is also what I am afraid of! Maybe in another 5-10 years some of her stories can come to visual media. :)

  • @Laramaria2
    @Laramaria2 7 дней назад +2

    I would love to see Bran becoming quite erratic, going from completely calm and almost lacking emotions to full on anger, screaming, like he's loosing not only himself but also control of what he even is, of his own mind. But no, the show wanted dragons but was ashamed of being a fantasy story so what we get is... Nothing... 🫤