Critics everywhere. This band is NOT As I Lay Dying people. Different is good. Why the hell do Metalhead elitists want EVERYTHING to sound the same? Sam old bullshit all of the time...."Its not brutal enough, the lyrics suck, its too melodic." Get over yourself. I like Wovenwar, I like As I Lay Dying. I like ALOT of different music and I am GLAD that there are bands for ALL shapes, sizes, and moods out there.
+Jody Hughes Couldn't say it better,this whole thing reminds me of Alter Bridge.People are still associate them with Creed,because 3/4 of the members were in that band.
+Ryan Kearney For one Tim owns half of AILD, so they can't use it without his permission, and they want to get away from being associated with Tim so it makes complete sense to a use a different name, and it's a new band anyway.
We spent a decade building a band of brothers to the bone, and it showed From the reef's kiss calling to the resistance rise we wrote We walked through fire blind The march echoes for all time But now the seasons changing The turning tide I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike We honed a humble phalanx to raze the arrogance in foes, and it showed We found a fraud in a Bishop, and built a nation of flawed sons We walked through fire blind The march echoes for all time But now the seasons changing The turning tide I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull The waves will never take an armored archer core, an armored archer core A means to believe A reverie I couldn't reach Never made a difference to me Go on, our brother You've only just begun Live long with honor From our fire you are born But now the seasons changing The turning tide I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull The waves will never take an armored archer core But now the seasons changing The turning tide [2x] I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike, storm or calm alike, storm or calm alike
Simply better than AILD in almost every way. Not constrained by tired vocals, tired themes and tired unclean vocals trying to sound emotive. This is simply better.
"But now the season's changing. The turning tide; I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike. And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull, the waves will never take an armored archer core." thank you. Keep up the good work lads!
Why is there NO BAND like Wovenwar? I try so hard to find, but they're unique, while heavy screaming are everywhere. Metalheads complain for nothing. Wovenwar is the best!
I appreciate the suggestion, but I do listen to Oh, Sleeper already, and for me they're pretty much like a lot of bands nowadays, I mean, that uses screaming a lot more than cleans. They're awesome, but not my cup of tea.
Being signed to Metal Blade, I expected some crazy vocals... What i got was absolutely refreshing. Oddly, I truly enjoy this sound of metal, and I am one to blast some Oceano, Make Them Suffer, or Thy Art Is Murder for fuckin days.
How CAN'T you compare!? When you consider 'As I Lay Dying' was actually what put these guy's on the map, you can't help but compare. Sorry guy's, but i have followed you(As I lay Dying) from the beginning. I'm not some crazed nerd that live's and breath's a band, i have a family and a busy life, and throughout my life, i have enjoyed alot of music, but As I lay Dying had something that no other band has, and will never have. It was raw, untouched, unfiltered emotion, brought to you by a man that not only managed to convey such energy through his vocals, but the timing, the build of each song is a masterpiece! I have to say that if i simply ignore that 'Wovenwar' where non-related to As I lay Dying, then i would stumble upon Wovenwar and think, yeah, these guy's sound good, and seem to related to the flat feeling most bands have, and the very 'same' feeling most bands have, but good. But, to me 'As I Lay Dying' hits you, and take's you deep into emotion, and for year's nothing can ever compare, or even come's near. Hope the future of Wovenwar work's out for you guy's, but the day you sound like As I Lay Dying, is a day that will never come sadly, after no one's fault, due to the long-lost band member, that to me, gave you guy's sound,sound that is beyond unrivalled. P.S I will keep my drumming stick i fought long and hard for, when i watched you(As I lay Dying) in London, and play back a sound that give's me shiver's every time............AILD
I've always looked up to Tim Lambesis. Even despite everything that went on with him. AILD was one of my favorite bands growing up and I absolutely love their music. Same goes for Oh, Sleeper. So now I have both of them in one? How could you not like this band?
Great song. Great video. Love the Oh, Sleeper references. On a side note, it's a shame how everything this band does leads to the AILD comments. This isn't As I Lay Dying. Your comments aren't going to bring them back. Even as an AILD fan, I would personally take Wovenwar's album over every single AILD album. If you want to hear AILD, go listen to AILD. You're wasting your time here.
@@blackangel9613 yes they are, and they are back to making heavy music again....guitar soul mates, they bring out the best riffs when they work together. Matt and page,(bfmv) Adam d and Joel (Kse) Nick and Phil (aild) Dan and travis (atreyu) Matt and Jason ( shadowsfall) Rob and Matt (chimaira) Doc and Dallas( god forbid) Mike and Oli (atr)
To all the band members of WOVENWAR who've graced their presence in the Tampa Bay area, thank you guys. Every song on your debut record is Gold in my ears. Keep it up boys!
We spent a decade building A band of brothers to the bone, and it showed From the reef's kiss calling To the Resistance rise we wrote We walked through fire blind The march echoes for all time But now the seasons changing, the turning tide I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike We honed a humble phalanx To raze the arrogance in foes, and it showed We found a fraud in a Bishop And built a nation of flawed sons We walked through fire blind The march echoes for all time But now the seasons changing, the turning tide I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull The waves will never take an armored archer core An armored archer core A means to believe A reverie I couldn't reach Never made a difference to me Go on, our brother You've only just begun Live long with honor From our fire you are born But now the seasons changing, the turning tide I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull The waves will never take an armored archer core But now the seasons changing, the turning tide (the turning tide) I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike (storm or calm alike) Storm or calm alike
Wovenwar has grown on me so much through out the years. If you go into them expecting AILD you don't get what you want. But if you go in expecting to get a new great band then this is definitely what you'll get
Everyone comparing Wovenwar to AILD and I'm over here like.... No... they're the replace crack for my Oh, Sleeper addiction when OS went on hiatus for 5+ years.
I really have grown to love this song the more I listen to it, as well as the album. It's not the most unique or groundbreaking, but the passion poured into it is evident. This song, though, is a joy to listen to.
I just can't listen to them without thinking about how badass as I lay dying was. I know it's a totally different band now but I'm expecting tim to just pop out of nowhere and be brutal on the mic
It's the best of both Oh, Sleeper aaand AILD. Personally I love all variations of these gents jamming their respective asses off. Keep that shit up dudes!!!
The crowd really signified what this band really is. They like it but nobody really knows what the fuck is going on. That being said, this song is fucking awesome.
As a diehard AILD fan back in the day, i am ashamed i did not know they started a new band. only discovering it due to reading an article on tims release. lmao different but still awesome.
The band should've said to the crowd, "uh, can u guys move around a little bit, at least look like u enjoy the music? We are shooting a music video here and all."
Great Video Guys. Woven War is awesome and can't wait to see them again. I hate to be negative but I really would have liked to see Micah. Shane you pulled it off just not a sweaty. hahaha
when they first came on to the scene it ws hard to listen without being reminded of As I Lay Dying, but given some time without listening to either i can honestly say these guy are pretty cool. P.S. the reason theyre "not as good" as AILD is because theyre not trying to be AILD anymore
Main vocals are Shane. But Micah does unclean vocals in this. It's hard to miss if you've been listening to Oh, Sleeper for a decade. And the title Archers is a reference to Oh Sleepers old song We Are The Archers. Which was on their oldest release The Armored March EP but was also re-recorded for the When I Am God album
I like it! We certainly miss AILD....but in all likelihood, they're not ever reforming. This isn't AILD 2.0, it's Wovenwar. And just because it's not as heavy, doesn't mean it's not metal. This is pretty good stuff. They're more melodic and less "core" than AILD was, from what I've seen so far
Didn't the members of Asilaydying start this band? If so, I sit back and wonder what would happen if someone were to upload this shit to Tim Lambesis I pod "if they allow them" What he would honestly think of this. And I also wonder, What does it feel like or how the band members adjust to the style as well. I mean, I know for a fact that if I were to be in a hard ass band playin hard ass shit. I would stick to the brutal shit!! \m/ \m/
hay guys everyone makes mistakes what makes you a man is learning from them tim made mistakes now he is paying for them my hope is it makes him better for it not as a murder plotting roid rager but as a song writer as a human being but one thing is for certain tim lambesis is a coward and deserves every minute of his sentence
Great song. I look forward to being told a million times in the comments how they're not AILD...
GunterStryke they're not AILD x1,000,000
***** Thanks homie
They're good but they're not AILD :P
LOL
they're not AILD... that's the best part
Critics everywhere. This band is NOT As I Lay Dying people. Different is good. Why the hell do Metalhead elitists want EVERYTHING to sound the same? Sam old bullshit all of the time...."Its not brutal enough, the lyrics suck, its too melodic." Get over yourself. I like Wovenwar, I like As I Lay Dying. I like ALOT of different music and I am GLAD that there are bands for ALL shapes, sizes, and moods out there.
Jody Hughes Great comment. I actually like this a little bit more, nothing against AILD.
Jody Hughes I think the problem is that most of us are thinking, "Did Trapt change names?"
In the words of Mike Muir from ST, "Just because you dont like it, dont mean it aint no good"
+Jody Hughes Couldn't say it better,this whole thing reminds me of Alter Bridge.People are still associate them with Creed,because 3/4 of the members were in that band.
+Ryan Kearney For one Tim owns half of AILD, so they can't use it without his permission, and they want to get away from being associated with Tim so it makes complete sense to a use a different name, and it's a new band anyway.
We spent a decade building a band of brothers to the bone, and it showed
From the reef's kiss calling to the resistance rise we wrote
We walked through fire blind
The march echoes for all time
But now the seasons changing
The turning tide
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike
We honed a humble phalanx to raze the arrogance in foes, and it showed
We found a fraud in a Bishop, and built a nation of flawed sons
We walked through fire blind
The march echoes for all time
But now the seasons changing
The turning tide
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike
And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull
The waves will never take an armored archer core, an armored archer core
A means to believe
A reverie I couldn't reach
Never made a difference to me
Go on, our brother
You've only just begun
Live long with honor
From our fire you are born
But now the seasons changing
The turning tide
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike
And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull
The waves will never take an armored archer core
But now the seasons changing
The turning tide [2x]
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike, storm or calm alike, storm or calm alike
One of my favorite songs of all time. Hoping they make a BIG come back.
Agree. As much as I love AILD, this band scratches a different itch and I hope the guys find time to do both.
I love AILD to but....i think wovenwar fucking rocks. ....Rock on boys!!
Simply better than AILD in almost every way. Not constrained by tired vocals, tired themes and tired unclean vocals trying to sound emotive. This is simply better.
Even though I love As I Lay Dying, I think this band is great and I can't wait to hear more from them if they make another album.
"But now the season's changing. The turning tide; I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike. And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull, the waves will never take an armored archer core."
thank you. Keep up the good work lads!
I miss AILD so much
Why is there NO BAND like Wovenwar? I try so hard to find, but they're unique, while heavy screaming are everywhere. Metalheads complain for nothing. Wovenwar is the best!
Uhh...Try Oh, Sleeper? They're definitely different, but Shane sings the clean vocals with them too. And they're fucking amazing (best lyrics).
I appreciate the suggestion, but I do listen to Oh, Sleeper already, and for me they're pretty much like a lot of bands nowadays, I mean, that uses screaming a lot more than cleans. They're awesome, but not my cup of tea.
But I do dig Endseekers, Hush Yael, and MAINLY Means To Believe.
Oh, and also Reveries Of Flight
Nothing More, Six Side Die, and Affiance are some of the more melodic heavy bands that you'll hopefully enjoy!
Being signed to Metal Blade, I expected some crazy vocals... What i got was absolutely refreshing. Oddly, I truly enjoy this sound of metal, and I am one to blast some Oceano, Make Them Suffer, or Thy Art Is Murder for fuckin days.
What an absolutely amazingly melodic song! Wovenwar is so Bad Ass!🤘🏻😎
How CAN'T you compare!? When you consider 'As I Lay Dying' was actually what put these guy's on the map, you can't help but compare. Sorry guy's, but i have followed you(As I lay Dying) from the beginning. I'm not some crazed nerd that live's and breath's a band, i have a family and a busy life, and throughout my life, i have enjoyed alot of music, but As I lay Dying had something that no other band has, and will never have. It was raw, untouched, unfiltered emotion, brought to you by a man that not only managed to convey such energy through his vocals, but the timing, the build of each song is a masterpiece! I have to say that if i simply ignore that 'Wovenwar' where non-related to As I lay Dying, then i would stumble upon Wovenwar and think, yeah, these guy's sound good, and seem to related to the flat feeling most bands have, and the very 'same' feeling most bands have, but good. But, to me 'As I Lay Dying' hits you, and take's you deep into emotion, and for year's nothing can ever compare, or even come's near. Hope the future of Wovenwar work's out for you guy's, but the day you sound like As I Lay Dying, is a day that will never come sadly, after no one's fault, due to the long-lost band member, that to me, gave you guy's sound,sound that is beyond unrivalled. P.S I will keep my drumming stick i fought long and hard for, when i watched you(As I lay Dying) in London, and play back a sound that give's me shiver's every time............AILD
I've always looked up to Tim Lambesis. Even despite everything that went on with him. AILD was one of my favorite bands growing up and I absolutely love their music. Same goes for Oh, Sleeper. So now I have both of them in one? How could you not like this band?
Great song. Great video. Love the Oh, Sleeper references. On a side note, it's a shame how everything this band does leads to the AILD comments. This isn't As I Lay Dying. Your comments aren't going to bring them back. Even as an AILD fan, I would personally take Wovenwar's album over every single AILD album. If you want to hear AILD, go listen to AILD. You're wasting your time here.
Evan Williams This is As I Lay Dying. call me nostalgic, but stick to the roots. Fool
Perfectly said, Evan.
Whats the Oh Sleeper references?? i dont get it!
@@yuricmendess the lines "when I am God" and "children of fire". Oh Sleeper songs.
the guitar work in this is soooo goood!!! phil and nick are one the best guitar duos!!!
BFMV Matt and Page are so damn good.
@@blackangel9613 yes they are, and they are back to making heavy music again....guitar soul mates, they bring out the best riffs when they work together.
Matt and page,(bfmv)
Adam d and Joel (Kse)
Nick and Phil (aild)
Dan and travis (atreyu)
Matt and Jason ( shadowsfall)
Rob and Matt (chimaira)
Doc and Dallas( god forbid)
Mike and Oli (atr)
To all the band members of WOVENWAR who've graced their presence in the Tampa Bay area, thank you guys. Every song on your debut record is Gold in my ears. Keep it up boys!
this is soooo good, i hope we get a second album soon!!!
We spent a decade building
A band of brothers to the bone, and it showed
From the reef's kiss calling
To the Resistance rise we wrote
We walked through fire blind
The march echoes for all time
But now the seasons changing, the turning tide
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike
We honed a humble phalanx
To raze the arrogance in foes, and it showed
We found a fraud in a Bishop
And built a nation of flawed sons
We walked through fire blind
The march echoes for all time
But now the seasons changing, the turning tide
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike
And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull
The waves will never take an armored archer core
An armored archer core
A means to believe
A reverie I couldn't reach
Never made a difference to me
Go on, our brother
You've only just begun
Live long with honor
From our fire you are born
But now the seasons changing, the turning tide
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike
And though my vessels lone-manned with brazen broken hull
The waves will never take an armored archer core
But now the seasons changing, the turning tide (the turning tide)
I've raised my sail to coming storm or calm alike (storm or calm alike)
Storm or calm alike
I feel like I am not a true man until I can out-beard the drummer.
lmao I thought I was alone there for a sec.
I'm with you bro haha!
If you see him in the aild my own grave video then youll realise that no one can out beard the lorax
Johan Hegg from Amon Amarth might have him beat, but he's a viking, so...😂
Wovenwar has grown on me so much through out the years.
If you go into them expecting AILD you don't get what you want. But if you go in expecting to get a new great band then this is definitely what you'll get
Everyone comparing Wovenwar to AILD and I'm over here like....
No... they're the replace crack for my Oh, Sleeper addiction when OS went on hiatus for 5+ years.
I was, and still am, a big AILD fan, but if you can't how this band is better musically then it's your loss.
I really have grown to love this song the more I listen to it, as well as the album. It's not the most unique or groundbreaking, but the passion poured into it is evident. This song, though, is a joy to listen to.
It’s a criminally underrated album. I came back after having them on blast about 4 years ago
This is great
SOOO underrated.
another year, another underrating.. STILL IN MY STEREO
Favorite from Wovenwar! Great song.
Great joke !!
Why are you even here if you don't like it
to see what the guys of aild have done after but ... so sad
That drum sequence right around 2:54 is fairly simple and straightforward but hot dammit Jordan can make it look so buttery smooth.
This is my most fav song by them!
Wow Amazing Vocals...... Well Done Metal Blade!
Please release a new album.🔥❤️
no heavy, no weight, just melodic all the time.
you are excused.
My favorite song ever by them ❤❤❤ although i have others, this one is by far my favorite ❤❤❤😭😭😭
Seeing these guys is on my to-do list.
Love this song!
I just can't listen to them without thinking about how badass as I lay dying was. I know it's a totally different band now but I'm expecting tim to just pop out of nowhere and be brutal on the mic
I dig it i can't wait to see them live!
This is sick
Great song, this band has a great sound.
Way better than the last two AILD albums. Rock on boys!
It's the best of both Oh, Sleeper aaand AILD. Personally I love all variations of these gents jamming their respective asses off. Keep that shit up dudes!!!
Can't believe I've never heard these guys before. This is epic
makes me want to cry
Diggin it.
Great song. I like the video too.
Fuckin' Tim.
This song is amazing
Oh my God,
I MISS AS I LAY DYING
I MISS AS I LAY DYING
Tim was and is still a better vocalist and front man than this guy...
awsome!!!!
I like wovenwar, tempest is cool too
This is very cool.
I really love this song, they've digressed themselves into something new. It's better than seeing AILD disbanded. This is some great music.
I heard Tim put a hit on this song.
This song kicks ass I love
Amazing band! 🤘❤️
The crowd really signified what this band really is. They like it but nobody really knows what the fuck is going on. That being said, this song is fucking awesome.
As a diehard AILD fan back in the day, i am ashamed i did not know they started a new band. only discovering it due to reading an article on tims release. lmao different but still awesome.
This band is as good as As I lay Dying when Josh Gilbert takes the lead vocals....
I like Wovenwar and AILD, two completely different sounds
The band should've said to the crowd, "uh, can u guys move around a little bit, at least look like u enjoy the music? We are shooting a music video here and all."
2000th like. Should be over 200 mil!
Why am I just discovering you guys???
just discovered them. its not that bad... marked in my favourites.
it's getting better xD
Ready... aim... fire!
the word alive-never forgett
I miss to Tim, him wonderful voice, but this is good too. Saludos desde Colombia.
AWESOME SONG
I came here trying to find something that resonates with as i lay dying and so my search continues.
Try Caliban - I Am Nemesis
Great Video Guys. Woven War is awesome and can't wait to see them again. I hate to be negative but I really would have liked to see Micah. Shane you pulled it off just not a sweaty. hahaha
dam I love the main riff
when they first came on to the scene it ws hard to listen without being reminded of As I Lay Dying, but given some time without listening to either i can honestly say these guy are pretty cool. P.S. the reason theyre "not as good" as AILD is because theyre not trying to be AILD anymore
Lets get Oh, Sleeper back!
I'm just happy these talented artists moved on from Tim, I think this band sounds good, just different
From the lyrics sounds like a farewell to Tim. RIP AILD but this band is killing it! In my humble non giving a shit about yours, opinion
いいなぁ・・・この曲。
I wish this was as I lay dying!!
can any tell me what an armored archer core is exactly? lol, from the lyrics it sounds like something on a ship
should've included Micah in the video
Micah sounds great on this track
It gives the song a nice Oh, Sleeper feel. Which is a good way to spice things up since people cant stop comparing this to AILD.
+Deku Butler Isn't this Shane? Micah tends to stick to unclean vocals besides.
Main vocals are Shane. But Micah does unclean vocals in this. It's hard to miss if you've been listening to Oh, Sleeper for a decade. And the title Archers is a reference to Oh Sleepers old song We Are The Archers. Which was on their oldest release The Armored March EP but was also re-recorded for the When I Am God album
Deku Butler I just listened to it again. Totally him. And then looked it up. You are right! My bad!
"As I Lay Sleeping"
Very god !!!
Baaaaaad!
Can't say I'm on love. love the band still. not sure about the singer. AILD 4ever!!!
I like it! We certainly miss AILD....but in all likelihood, they're not ever reforming. This isn't AILD 2.0, it's Wovenwar. And just because it's not as heavy, doesn't mean it's not metal. This is pretty good stuff. They're more melodic and less "core" than AILD was, from what I've seen so far
Didn't the members of Asilaydying start this band? If so, I sit back and wonder what would happen if someone were to upload this shit to Tim Lambesis I pod "if they allow them" What he would honestly think of this. And I also wonder, What does it feel like or how the band members adjust to the style as well. I mean, I know for a fact that if I were to be in a hard ass band playin hard ass shit. I would stick to the brutal shit!! \m/ \m/
👍👌
notice how the audience is standing still
micah kinard sing in the track or is shane blay?
Better than the old
this is not AILD for sure but this is great ..get over it or get out
well , they had to move on since tim is in prison obviously.
good for them.
Wonder how Shane feels without having to play onstage lol
hay guys everyone makes mistakes what makes you a man is learning from them tim made mistakes now he is paying for them my hope is it makes him better for it not as a murder plotting roid rager but as a song writer as a human being but one thing is for certain tim lambesis is a coward and deserves every minute of his sentence
So Oh Sleeper is done?
no just on hiatus while woven war does its thing
Definitely playing smaller venue's now that Tim isn't there haha.
or the fact that this is a whole new band with a new sound. AILD starred the same way.
The venue in the video is about the same size as the last place I saw AILD, which was just a couple weeks before Tim got arrested.
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The screams now kind of remind me of Oh, Sleeper's screamer.
it's the same guy... i hope this wasnt a troll XD?
Donovan Maree Honestly it wasn't at first, but I searched it up and figured it out right after posting lol.
Disappointed they did actually have Micah in the video.
That mustache tho....