Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. I learned about Andre from Turn Washington’s spies and have been intrigued by their level of honor and formality in war
You're welcome. I've been working on that book A LOT lately to the point one could say I've been writing like a maniac. I've tracked down a whole bunch of biographies of John Andre, Peggy Shippen, Benedict Arnold, books about all 3 of them and the messed up stuff all 3 were up to (including the hard to find journals and diaries that were written by John Andre himself) as well as books about other key players in the American Revolution on both sides for alternate perspectives from both sides on the same matters as well as some books about The Culper Ring. I'll keep you posted and give periodic updates on my channel. If further interested, please subscribe. I've figured it's also a way of bringing back the type of quality fictional literature which is truly lacking these days. So, a fictional take on real and familiar historical events might be a good place to start. Maybe even get people of the younger generation interested in reading actual books again, turning off or shutting their smartphones, iPads, and laptops so as not being constantly distracted by them and actually pick up a book again. Preferably a REAL BOOK instead of digital Kindle book downloads since an actual book truly holding a readers interest doesn't wind up interrupting that since actual books don't run on some type of battery. For that exact reason, actual books are so much better and worth it since they don't ever require any recharging. All by itself, that factor, alone, truly makes actual books worth it. So, even though I'm just some nobody from Baltimore, MD, I think I still have a point and, in particular, concerning the younger generation.
Same with me. I had never heard of John Andre and the entire messed up situation he became tangled up in with Peggy Shippen and Benedict Arnold before watching "Turn". I had heard about bits and pieces of the situation all 3 became tangled up in but not the entire story. So, after that, I just decided to pick up where I left off with the book I had already started writing and that I'd just start making it into something even better. After making a few changes and expanding on what I had already begun writing 5 or 6 years ago, I still wasn't happy with how it was simultaneously developing and not developing so I completely rewrote most of it. Since I hadn't developed the main characters specifically enough, yet, OR decided who to specifically base them on and what directions their narratives would go in I decided to take it in an unusual direction. I'd look around within the historical scope of The American Revolution for someone interesting from that time in history who was highly unconventional, highly respected, and with an unusual, war-related backstory simultaneously who would both resonate with whomever reads the book when I finish it and who can make the plot and the narrative interesting in a way that would stick. Then, I came across the 4 TV series DVD sets of "Turn" in my Amazon recommendations. So, I ordered the first, binged watched it, and then I ordered the other 3. After learning the extremely messed-up story of John, Peggy, and Benedict which could be described as a simultaneous real life love triangle and Romeo and Juliet type of ordeal I just couldn't get that out of my head no matter what without somehow making it into a creative project. Then, I just figured. Yep, that's it. So, I started working on the book again and it just started to quickly take off from there. It was originally planning on it being a dystopian fictional book involving a history-altering war and, then, it began turning into something way better and way more interesting. When something from history hits me like that completely on the spot like a sudden bolt of lightning, I always have to turn it into a creative project in one way or another. So, since I had already started writing something else, somewhat similar, and I hadn't gotten very far with it yet (due to writers block), I just rewrote most of it and, now, I'm just adding to it more and more. Now, ever since, I've been writing like a maniac.
I read that Washington was willing to do a prisoner swap with Andre but the British turned the offer down. I'm glad that Andre's body was reinterred in the UK where he was honored.
@@VloggingThroughHistory ironically that makes Americans and Brits alike probably hate Arnold more. He was the one who should’ve been killed and an honorable man was killed in his place because the British didn’t want to scare off any other potential deserters from the continental army.
I'm just some creative nobody from Baltimore, MD who likes to write. One day, I just decided to get all the Turn DVD's on the spot. I'm a Patriot from a military family on both sides. I started writing a fictional book . After I watched a fictional book about 1/2 a decade ago and I've recently started working on it again. I was trying to find someone from the time of the Revolutionary war to base one of my main characters on. After I watched Turn, all of this just absolutely broke my heart. I wanted to base my main character on someone unconventional yet worthy of respect who never received it. Someone who isn't Benedict Arnold. This story absolutely hit me like a bolt of lightning. To the point I cried. I'm of Scottish, Irish, German, and French heritage. This stuck in my head ever since so I decided to base my unconventional main character on John Andre. Apparently he was never given the respect he deserved and as both an American Patriot and a person of Scottish, Irish, French, and German heritage, I just think he deserves the respect he was worthy of but never received since before he got himself into that messed up situation he was both always respectful of everyone around him and always received equal respect from everyone around him in return. Again, I'm from a military family on both sides and while the rest of my characters will all be based on Americans I just wanted my main character to be both an exception and someone unconventional at the same time. Although it's going to be a fictional book, he will have a happy ending and the outcome will be the opposite. From a fictional perspective, I'm going to reverse what the endings of both John Andre and Benedict Arnold. As a Patriot from a military family this entire sad story hit me like a bolt of lightning and has been stuck in my head ever since. Ever since I learned of this historical event after watching Turn it's just become stuck in my head and completely out of respect as someone from a military family on both sides, as someone of Scottish, Irish, French, and German heritage, as a creative and artistic person, as someone who loves American history and as a Patriot I feel writing a fictional book with the endings of both of these individuals reversed is the least I can do. Thank you for this.
I am doing a story on Peggy Shippen, so I wanted to hear more about John Andre. This was a great presentation and I'm sharing this video to my Facebook group. Really great story! Enjoyed!
Thank you for your video. I wrote a song about John Andre a few years ago because I was so moved and I still am moved by his life. Someday I will come to visit where you have video tapped. Thank you for being solemn in your presentation. If we all can be so brave.
Across the Hudson, in Putnam County, there are a series of signs denoting the capture of Andre and the path they took him on towards his trial. Funny, there are so many signs, down Route 6, you'd think they were giving the guy a parade.
wow thats so amazing watching tv show TURN made me come over here and watching these historic places is so amazing specially when you cant probably be there in real life , thanks for bringing it to us on the youtube.
Born and raised in Orangetown, NY in the hamlet, Blauvelt, north on Western Highway a mere 3.2 miles from the hamlet of Tappan. We all went to Tappan Zee High School - and Tappan is pronounced (by locals) differently. Non-locals say it as if spelled like TAPPIN (short *i*) but its pronunciation is Tappan (TA (short "a" like apple or tap dancing), and PAN (just like you would say for a frying PAN).
I feel so bad for u, u probably have a job but still, u make great videos and you'll should get more like, subs, or support in general. I think you should make more videos like these. Good job :D
This is phenomenal. I grew up and have a home about 40-mins from West Point in a town named Liberty. I have been to Tappan but was not educated on its history. I’m currently watching Turn and becoming more and more interested in learning our history. I just finished season 3, where they hang Andre. From everything I have read and watched today, it seems Turn did great justice in depicting the accuracy of what went down. Thank you for this.
The '76 House still operates as a tavern/restaurant - there's a good video by the current owner somewhere on RUclips about it. The times I've gone up the road from NJ to dine there I always enjoyed looking for the inverted portrait of Benedict Arnold above the mantel. Beau of the Fifth Column also did an enjoyable video about the monument to Arnold's boot or leg in a cemetery upstate.
We lived in Tappan till I was 4, we lived only a mile or 2 from the 76 House. We pronounce it Ta-PAN but the bridge over the Hudson river is pronounced more like Tap-en Zee.
While his execution was imminent, Andre had requested to die by firing squad. He felt it was more befitting an officer and gentleman. The penalty at that time for spying was death by hanging. Nathan Hale was executed by the British just 4 years prior almost to the day. Unlike Hale who gathered the information himself, Andre was a courier that might have had his mode of death request granted. However, he ends up swinging in what should have been Benedict Arnold's noose.@@eodyn7
@@eodyn7 he actually was that was just addition to his crime of helping Arnold and crossing American lines in civilian clothes with incriminating documents
You pronounced our town incorrectly. It is not pronounced like the bridge. It is TA-pan. I grew up here. My parents bought our home here in 1976. Always pronounced TA-pan.
John Andre was a man of honor! Both side of the war loved his dignity.
You don’t find that anymore
Wasn't he killing Americans?
I liked him
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. I learned about Andre from Turn Washington’s spies and have been intrigued by their level of honor and formality in war
You're welcome. I've been working on that book A LOT lately to the point one could say I've been writing like a maniac. I've tracked down a whole bunch of biographies of John Andre, Peggy Shippen, Benedict Arnold, books about all 3 of them and the messed up stuff all 3 were up to (including the hard to find journals and diaries that were written by John Andre himself) as well as books about other key players in the American Revolution on both sides for alternate perspectives from both sides on the same matters as well as some books about The Culper Ring. I'll keep you posted and give periodic updates on my channel. If further interested, please subscribe. I've figured it's also a way of bringing back the type of quality fictional literature which is truly lacking these days. So, a fictional take on real and familiar historical events might be a good place to start. Maybe even get people of the younger generation interested in reading actual books again, turning off or shutting their smartphones, iPads, and laptops so as not being constantly distracted by them and actually pick up a book again. Preferably a REAL BOOK instead of digital Kindle book downloads since an actual book truly holding a readers interest doesn't wind up interrupting that since actual books don't run on some type of battery. For that exact reason, actual books are so much better and worth it since they don't ever require any recharging. All by itself, that factor, alone, truly makes actual books worth it. So, even though I'm just some nobody from Baltimore, MD, I think I still have a point and, in particular, concerning the younger generation.
Same with me. I had never heard of John Andre and the entire messed up situation he became tangled up in with Peggy Shippen and Benedict Arnold before watching "Turn". I had heard about bits and pieces of the situation all 3 became tangled up in but not the entire story. So, after that, I just decided to pick up where I left off with the book I had already started writing and that I'd just start making it into something even better. After making a few changes and expanding on what I had already begun writing 5 or 6 years ago, I still wasn't happy with how it was simultaneously developing and not developing so I completely rewrote most of it. Since I hadn't developed the main characters specifically enough, yet, OR decided who to specifically base them on and what directions their narratives would go in I decided to take it in an unusual direction. I'd look around within the historical scope of The American Revolution for someone interesting from that time in history who was highly unconventional, highly respected, and with an unusual, war-related backstory simultaneously who would both resonate with whomever reads the book when I finish it and who can make the plot and the narrative interesting in a way that would stick. Then, I came across the 4 TV series DVD sets of "Turn" in my Amazon recommendations. So, I ordered the first, binged watched it, and then I ordered the other 3. After learning the extremely messed-up story of John, Peggy, and Benedict which could be described as a simultaneous real life love triangle and Romeo and Juliet type of ordeal I just couldn't get that out of my head no matter what without somehow making it into a creative project. Then, I just figured. Yep, that's it. So, I started working on the book again and it just started to quickly take off from there. It was originally planning on it being a dystopian fictional book involving a history-altering war and, then, it began turning into something way better and way more interesting. When something from history hits me like that completely on the spot like a sudden bolt of lightning, I always have to turn it into a creative project in one way or another. So, since I had already started writing something else, somewhat similar, and I hadn't gotten very far with it yet (due to writers block), I just rewrote most of it and, now, I'm just adding to it more and more. Now, ever since, I've been writing like a maniac.
This is incredible. Thanks for sharing! I love John Andre’s last words.
I read that Washington was willing to do a prisoner swap with Andre but the British turned the offer down. I'm glad that Andre's body was reinterred in the UK where he was honored.
Yep he offered Andre for Benedict Arnold.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Thanks for the reply! New subscriber here. You do an excellent job presenting! Great story teller with attn to detail. 👍👍
@@VloggingThroughHistory ironically that makes Americans and Brits alike probably hate Arnold more. He was the one who should’ve been killed and an honorable man was killed in his place because the British didn’t want to scare off any other potential deserters from the continental army.
Andre was a great sympathetic character in TURN Washington’s Spies. Though most full of historical inaccuracies was a good tv show
@@arlonfoster9997an awesome show.
I'm just some creative nobody from Baltimore, MD who likes to write. One day, I just decided to get all the Turn DVD's on the spot. I'm a Patriot from a military family on both sides. I started writing a fictional book . After I watched a fictional book about 1/2 a decade ago and I've recently started working on it again. I was trying to find someone from the time of the Revolutionary war to base one of my main characters on. After I watched Turn, all of this just absolutely broke my heart. I wanted to base my main character on someone unconventional yet worthy of respect who never received it. Someone who isn't Benedict Arnold. This story absolutely hit me like a bolt of lightning. To the point I cried. I'm of Scottish, Irish, German, and French heritage. This stuck in my head ever since so I decided to base my unconventional main character on John Andre. Apparently he was never given the respect he deserved and as both an American Patriot and a person of Scottish, Irish, French, and German heritage, I just think he deserves the respect he was worthy of but never received since before he got himself into that messed up situation he was both always respectful of everyone around him and always received equal respect from everyone around him in return. Again, I'm from a military family on both sides and while the rest of my characters will all be based on Americans I just wanted my main character to be both an exception and someone unconventional at the same time. Although it's going to be a fictional book, he will have a happy ending and the outcome will be the opposite. From a fictional perspective, I'm going to reverse what the endings of both John Andre and Benedict Arnold. As a Patriot from a military family this entire sad story hit me like a bolt of lightning and has been stuck in my head ever since. Ever since I learned of this historical event after watching Turn it's just become stuck in my head and completely out of respect as someone from a military family on both sides, as someone of Scottish, Irish, French, and German heritage, as a creative and artistic person, as someone who loves American history and as a Patriot I feel writing a fictional book with the endings of both of these individuals reversed is the least I can do. Thank you for this.
I am doing a story on Peggy Shippen, so I wanted to hear more about John Andre. This was a great presentation and I'm sharing this video to my Facebook group. Really great story! Enjoyed!
Thank you for your video. I wrote a song about John Andre a few years ago because I was so moved and I still am moved by his life. Someday I will come to visit where you have video tapped. Thank you for being solemn in your presentation. If we all can be so brave.
Across the Hudson, in Putnam County, there are a series of signs denoting the capture of Andre and the path they took him on towards his trial. Funny, there are so many signs, down Route 6, you'd think they were giving the guy a parade.
Considering he was arrested in Sleepy Hollow where Patriots Park is today, they sure did give him a grand tour.
OMG I have to come up there. I loved his role in Turn
wow thats so amazing watching tv show TURN made me come over here and watching these historic places is so amazing specially when you cant probably be there in real life , thanks for bringing it to us on the youtube.
Thanks for sharing this
Thank you.. so interesting.
Born and raised in Orangetown, NY in the hamlet, Blauvelt, north on Western Highway a mere 3.2 miles from the hamlet of Tappan. We all went to Tappan Zee High School - and Tappan is pronounced (by locals) differently. Non-locals say it as if spelled like TAPPIN (short *i*) but its pronunciation is Tappan (TA (short "a" like apple or tap dancing), and PAN (just like you would say for a frying PAN).
Correct! It's pronounced "tah-PAN." (Old Tappan native here).
Great video, cheers from across the pond
A neat little video, thanks for what you do.
really love john andre ive written a few essays on him his character and charm never fails to impress me and others
RIP JOHN 😢
I feel so bad for u, u probably have a job but still, u make great videos and you'll should get more like, subs, or support in general. I think you should make more videos like these.
Good job :D
Thanks! Nice job!!
Everyone watching this has seen Turn right?
One of my 5X great grandfathers, Joab Bowers (b. 1765, so he was only 15 in 1780!), guarded John Andre while he was imprisoned.
I like this kind of history
This is phenomenal. I grew up and have a home about 40-mins from West Point in a town named Liberty. I have been to Tappan but was not educated on its history. I’m currently watching Turn and becoming more and more interested in learning our history. I just finished season 3, where they hang Andre. From everything I have read and watched today, it seems Turn did great justice in depicting the accuracy of what went down.
Thank you for this.
I used to cover Rockland County for years as a salesman. I recognize that street corner but I never knew what history was there. Thanks.
Been waiting for this one!🤓
The '76 House still operates as a tavern/restaurant - there's a good video by the current owner somewhere on RUclips about it. The times I've gone up the road from NJ to dine there I always enjoyed looking for the inverted portrait of Benedict Arnold above the mantel. Beau of the Fifth Column also did an enjoyable video about the monument to Arnold's boot or leg in a cemetery upstate.
Excellent Video !!!!
Great video ☺️
Ive been trying to get information on the DeWint House. I have tried emails and calling. Do you know any other ways I get get info. Thanks.
I've been saying Tappan all wrong lol. Thanks for sharing!
We lived in Tappan till I was 4, we lived only a mile or 2 from the 76 House. We pronounce it Ta-PAN but the bridge over the Hudson river is pronounced more like Tap-en Zee.
The Baylor massacre was on September 27, same day as my birthday.
Tap pan that’s how us natives pronounce tappan
John Andre was very cultured, fell in love with Benedict Arnold's wife Peggy (Before they were married) He could play the flute and he loved science.
Im not ashamed his wife Peggy and Benedict are my 1st cousins thru marriages of the Byrds, Willing, Shippen families! 🇺🇸🇬🇧
I do not mean this ugly, but a 1K John Andre are wreath one Benedick Arnold. Character counts.
Absolutely!
Robert Rogers, formally of the Queens Rangers was instrumental in his capture.
Rogers didn’t capture Andre in 1780 he real life like in the show that was Issac Van Wart John Paulding and David Williams
Rogers did capture Nathan Hale four years earlier in 1776
ffs i loved it again.....darn
John Andre was hanged in retaliation for the hanging of Nathan Hale.
No he wasn't.
While his execution was imminent, Andre had requested to die by firing squad. He felt it was more befitting an officer and gentleman. The penalty at that time for spying was death by hanging. Nathan Hale was executed by the British just 4 years prior almost to the day. Unlike Hale who gathered the information himself, Andre was a courier that might have had his mode of death request granted. However, he ends up swinging in what should have been Benedict Arnold's noose.@@eodyn7
@@eodyn7 he actually was that was just addition to his crime of helping Arnold and crossing American lines in civilian clothes with incriminating documents
Man, ‘76 house is still hanging the flag wrong.😑
British spy becomes a folk figure in America. Odd.
I’m from Long Island and I call it the same way said in video, tap an, not ta pan
the coward that murdered major andre.
the town name is pronounced Tap-Pan. 2 syllables
You pronounced our town incorrectly. It is not pronounced like the bridge. It is TA-pan. I grew up here. My parents bought our home here in 1976. Always pronounced TA-pan.
Alea iacta est