🌟 FLEET FRIDAY 🌟 FDNY SUPER PUMPER 1 TRAINING, FLOWING WATER & COMPARTMENTS
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- FDNY SUPER PUMPER 1 TRAINING & COMPARTMENTS FLOWING WATER AT THE ROCK TRAINING ACADEMY
The Super Pumper 1 will be cross-staffed by Engine 260 and backup Engine 291. It will be assigned to 10-86, 10-87 Foam Signals, Airport Crash Boxes, and special called to any incident by a Incident Commander. When the Super Pumper is assigned also being added will be 2 Hydro Sub Pumps, 1 Satellite, 1 Large Marine Unit, and Car 11 & Car 11F.
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Outstanding video! My Dad was a Lieutenant with the original Super Pumper System. 91 years old now, enjoyed your video too! Many thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You are blesses bro!!you still got your Dad with you!!!👍🙏🙏🙏.ohio
I was assigned to Satellite One
This truck is insane, talk about throwing some water on to a fire. 8000 gal from the main gun and then 2000 gals each rear gun, incredible. Definitely a great truck to have especially in a big city with big fires.
Thanks For Showcasing These Trucks For Us.
Skyler, Thank you for being able to be part of the Super Pumper Training. 1982 to 2023 is a long time between Super Pumpers! But technology did advance 4.5 " to 6" hose. 5200 gpm on a much smaller rig that can haul it's own hose and more satellites, than before... Son of the Original Super Pumper!!!! I think it still needs a Super Tender with 8" hose! I am sure that it was considered. Standing by for a 10-86! 👍👍👍to S.F.
You bet! Thanks for watching
Wow! Great video Skyler. We’ll probably never see this mother at a fire, because if it’s that big the only safe place to watch it would be New Jersey.
Prob never
@@SkylerFire than why waste taxpayers money. What a waste
@@Biggestfoot102099-11 comes to mind.
I believe, it would more likely be used for long distance pumping in case of hydrants system damage or for deflooding the subway in case of flood/hurricane
they just pulled it out a few weeks ago for a fire!
Skyler, one hell of a video. Once they get pumping experience through training, it won't take long to flow water. That is one hell of a truck . I am a retired career firefighter from Pennsylvania
Thanks so much for watching!
That rig is awesome! Thanks for sharing!
You bet!
That's what training is there for.
And that’s what they are doing.
skyler thank you for your content and hard work. back in the day i went to a few major fires where the original super pumper was used. i am amazed how quiet this is in comparison to the original. keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching!
Tom ITS 40 yrs since I joined FDNY , IDK it ever being put to work , or heard of it used. Maybe a drill like this, but not in my 40 yrs . Can you please clarify. I've seen it hundreds of times at Tillery st. ( TFS) but never used thanks
@@burkena yes started as an emt in nyc in 1978, once on the west side of manhattan in a large ancient warehouse complex and then in a row of factories in greenpoint brooklyn. i have the photos to prove it and i can tell you it was quite an experience.
@Tom Savage I was in HS.. & working In teamsters @ the WTC '78..I took the test '77 for FD. Didn't really remember it other than like I said @ Tillery st. Ill have to look it up. Thanks
I just finished watching a video from the manufacture of this truck.This truck is insane !!!!PS: it had the two rear deck guns...like it needed it !!!!!!
Hahahaha
Wow! That is some rig! The super pumper and the fire boat!
Great machines!, AWESOME people!! God Bless the FDNY!
Thanks! You too!
FANTASTIC STUFF SKYLER !!! Thanks for doing this. We got to see the SUPER PUMPER and MARINE CO. 9 and everything involved. Nice job !!!
Thanks
You're welcome. Love anything FDNY but their APPARATUS/EQUIPMENT is of particular interest to me. This video hit it out of the park. Thanks again.
Wow! Beautiful unit! I never seen before! Thanks so much Skyler for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
@@SkylerFire You're welcome!
This is so cool! I was around for a previous version of the super pumper. I was in about 7th grade, so pre-1970. The equivalent of the two trailer mounted pumps was a single tractor-trailer pump unit that could draft water from special man holes that had direct water from the bay. With it were 4 tenders with a huge deck gun and several thousand feet of 6 inch hose. The pump unit could pump on six 6 inch lines. I clearly remember the big MAC truck logo on the tractor unit. Just what is needed now a days for electric car fires. I was wondering when they were going to bring this idea back. Need to flood the 7th or 8th floor of a high rise? This truck can do it! And Fast. I do wonder if they have hose tenders that bring 8 inch lines to where they are going to deploy one of the trailers. The whole idea of the Large Diameter Hose (LDH) is cutting friction loss, so you really need the 8 inch hose. This has the potential of parking a fire boat within a couple thousand feet of anything burning.
Thanks for watching
This gives hit it hard from the yard a whole new meaning!
Great catch of super pumper training from a guy that’s old enough to watch the original super pumper. Being fed from both SOC hydro sub units and a marine unit. In all my years as an engine chauffeur ( not FDNY) it was strictly forbidden to supply any engine or device with mixed non portable water and potable water from a hydrant. If any DEP officials see this post I’m sure they’ll have a serious talk with FDNY administrators. Incidentally I think they should call this unit super pumper 2 out of respect for the original unit.
Interesting and valid point you brought up regarding mixing potable and non-potable water. Enjoyed your comments. Take care.
Thanks for your comment. DEP knows about this unit... This is not to replace the Super Pumper!
I know what your talking about regarding the mixing of the 2 water sources… but I wonder if the hydrants there on the island are actually potable water hydrants…given the amount of water they would use for training I would think that they would be not hooked into the potable water system… I hope someone could actually confirm if the hydrants are or aren’t fed from a potable water main
@@tjlovesrachel In the early 20th century NYC had a separate fire main system. It was in place in parts of Manhattan and the Coney Island area. It was used for high volume flow incidents before pumping engine technology was what it is in the second half of the century or today. Hose lines and or devices could be attached directly to the hydrant with no engine needed. It was shut down mid century due to the cost of maintenance and its age. Even then though the two pump stations were supplied off the potable water system. The stations were located close to waterways and had manifolds that would allow pumping from a fire boat into the system. I don’t know if this was actually done through because the whole system would need to be flushed afterwards because leaving salt water in cast iron pipes would be very corrosive. In my own experience any chauffeur or officer assigned to water supply would face strict discipline if found mixing water sources. I’m sure the DEP has regulations on the paint on hydrants that denote that a hydrant may or may not be fed from a potable source as in many cities.. The hydrant in this post is painted as a potable hydrant. The pump stations on the old system had strict procedures to operate valves to ensure non potable water was not introduced into the potable system.
@@SkylerFire Thanks for your response Skyler. I’m sure the DEP does know about this unit but the cross connection hook up shown is the video is illegal almost everywhere I can think of. If the potable system pressure fails for some reason. The pressures from the fire boat and the submersible pump could easily push non potable water into the potable system endangering the health of thousands of people. If I or any other chauffeur was found mixing water sources , we would have faced strict disciplinary action. As far as the unit’s name in my opinion they should show some respect to FDNY history and the original super pumper.
Excellent video brother ... You can tell this is for the BIG incidents as it takes a LOT of support and time to get it rocking and rolling out all that water. It certainly is impressive!
For Sure!
When I saw this, I noticed it takes a lot of manpower and time to set it up. Amazing.
Such a cool piece of equipment. This apparatus pulls up to a fire, the fire will put it's hands up and say 'I surrender!'
Lol
Thanks for the Post & bringing us up to date on the FDNY Super Pumper !
Thanks
@@SkylerFire K on the notes
Nice video Skyler. I haven't been on the Rock in over a decade yet I can still smell it in my mind.
Thanks!
Beautiful video. Nice to see the North American fire departments brought this technology over from their counterparts in the Eu. I know the European setup is different. Loved their videos of this technology too.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mighty mighty! I have only witnessed a 4000 gpm deck gun in the past. We have a regional department in our area with a large industrial hazard and we called them in on a mutual aid situation because of their big gun capacity. Really enjoyed the video..Thanks!
Great video as a Firefighter on Long Island a Beautiful piece of equipment.....🚒
It sure is!
Holy crap, Marine 9 is a massive ship.
yup
The tucson arizona needs 3 of these pumpers. As well as bullhead city AZ . Laughlin nevada.
This is "awesome day" at the ROCK ! Great video thanks
Wow great piece of kit hopefully if they use in a real fire they set it up a lot quicker
All depends on where the fire is and water source…. Even if it was right on the order setup time is over 30mins
From California never seen one of these really cool thanks for the video. We have different trucks out here some similar that’s cool to see something different. An amazing teamwork. That’s a wonderful piece of equipment
Thanks for watching!
Freakin AMAZING, nothing like the original. Thanks Skyler great footage, great job. Stay Safe
Wow that’s pretty Epic, 2 diesel pumps a Marine boat and Hydrant powering 1 truck. I would love to see this being used on a call
WOW... That deck gun @ 8,000 GPM is amazing. Would loved to have been there to observe.
Thanks for watching!
Very informative, Thanks for sharing
I just saw this truck on Pinterest and I commented that I wanted to see it in action. Thanks for posting this. It was great.
Glad you liked it!
that is some serious equipment right there.
Great video Skyler, a rear look at FDNY special equipment and training. Thanks for the great video.
Wonderful video. Thanks for sharing Skyler...🤗🤗
Thanks
This is one of the best,most interesting and informative videos I’ve seen and enjoy going back to watch from time to time. I’m curious how far the super stream can project and also are you an FDNY member.
I am not a FDNY member thanks for watching
Good job covering something so unique 👍
Thanks
Great Video Skyler.and a Fantastic Training Exercise. Thanks Stay Safe ☮
Glad you enjoyed it
FANTASTIC SUPER PUMPER FOR THE FDNY.
For sure
Skyler Fire great video keep up the good work the old mack fc SUPER PUMPER looking nice
I'm only 10 minutes in and I like it!!!
Did you see what brand of apparatus that was
@@dennisthrockmorton9714 Ferrera
Thanks so much!
Ferrara,,,,
@@SkylerFire well the super pumper can pump 38000 gallons per minute and its the Guinness world record holder as well
Facinating. Seriously!! I would imagine the will use this next to large bodies of water. I am not sure if that would knock a fire down or just knock a house down. Heh. Thank you Skyler. 😁
They can use it anywhere just gonna take awhile to set up. But yes closer to water would be ideal
Great video! Thanks for posting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for all the information Pal, well informative and what an impressive piece of kit, Stay Safe
Glad you enjoyed it
That's one heck of a truck. Pretty cool to see it throwing 8000 GPM.
I had a setup question though - I saw those hard plastic/fiberglass curved pieces, one of them was near one of the concrete pillars - wouldn't it be better to put that where you get the 90 degree bend from where the submersible pump went over the side, preventing that kink at the dock? Just a thought.
Ok probie, pick up the hose. :D
Thanks for your comment
Impressive unit. I assume this unit/system replaces the retired tractor trailer unit. Also, it seem that it would take a considerable amount of time, resources and manpower to get this rig set up.
It’s not really replacing it cause it’s nothing like it. And yeah it will take time depending on where it has to get set up.
@@SkylerFire I see more similarities than differences.
If I have done my research correctly, this new Ferrara SuperPumper directly replaces the Maxi Water System (1987 - 1999, and of which became Satellite 6), which in turn replaced the original SuperPumper System (1965-1982).
@BEDT14 it technically doesn’t replace it.
supercedes@@SkylerFire
Nice truck. That will move a ton of water. Just as long you can get enough water to supply it.
For SUre!!
Awesome i hope u can get a tour of one of the boats get it pumping water
I have one of the marine battalion coming soon. But no big marine unit yet
very interesting stuff! looks like a lot of work, though. Thanks for another great vid!!
Prolonged incidents
Could use something like that out here in either Denver, Phoenix or a city like L.A.Impressive New piece of equipment for the FDNY.
Wow! Outstanding video.
Glad you liked it!
The old super pumper was huge.
yup
In spite of the fact this is a training exercise, it sure seems like a complicated operation. Let's hope there's a faster reaction time as the city burns to the ground.
Well this is for a pro longed incident
Well in a real life scenario. To get water flowing faster what they would do is pull off their hard suction lines and just have the super pumper supply it’s own water and just have the truck feed to other trucks to supply water to the fire. They wouldn’t take this long to set up a water supply with an active fire
If they did that, the fire would either need to be at the water front, of their deluge guns would be off the fire scene.
Very informative Skyler thanks for the video
Thanks
Love your presentation!!!!
Thanks so much!
Hugely interesting vieo Skyler! Have they actually used this BIG pumper at any fires? IHope you get a chance to tape the beast in actual use. You'll haave to let us fans know in advance!! Thanks much my man!
Thanks for watching! They are still training…
Nice Rig , Super Pumper🚨🚒
Thanks
awesome pumper seemed to take quite awhile to hook it all up !
Amazing what we can create for good when we put our minds to it- Outstanding teamwork from the FDNY!!! And thanks for the Great vid as well...
Absolutely!
Nice one, liked and shared 🧑🏻👍🏻🚒
You rock!
@@SkylerFire 🧑🏻👍🏻
I'm always amazed at the number of personal NYFD employes. Our Boyz here in town run a two-man engine company. And a two-man 95' tower.
Thanks for watching. Manpower is big key in operations when you have high rise buildings.
That’s nice that the super pumper pumps
Thanks for watching!
what a monster
WOW! Very interesting! I didn't even know this existed. Thank you for the video. What scenario would this be used for? It takes so long to set up. Maybe harbor fires? Thanks for letting us see this.
Thanks for your comment! This unit will be used for Airport Fuel Farms, Fuel Tankers, Foam Calls something Prolonged!
It also can be used for water supply incidents where a large volume of water is needed at a large fire and the local neighborhood system is fully utilized due to the fire. This unit could be placed at a remote location where sufficient water is available and pump large quantities into the fire area using the large diameter hose. The original super pumper was used many times in this scenario.
These types of trucks are seen more at refineries thats why you don’t see them as often
Pretty cool rig! Best of luck
Thanks
Wow! What an Awesome Rig and Video! Great Work Skyler!👍👏
Thanks
@@SkylerFire You're Welcome Skyler!
TRAINING IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FDNY PERIOD.🚒🚒🚒🚒🔥🔥🔥♥♥♥☑☑☑☑
For sure!
Thanks Skyler I would like see the old and the new super pumpers pumping side by side.
The original is now a museum peice. It is not in pumping condition and not owned by FDNY.
Skyler, please give me an example of the type of fire a super pumper would respond to. This is a big set up. When is it utilized?? Thanks.
Thanks for your reply
Very informative and interesting video Skyler. I know it cut in and out as you were viewing different parts of the operation, about how long was it from when the first units parked until they got the flow they wanted to reach? Thanks for giving us a chance to see this. Stay safe out there.
Well they stopped a few times because the main training is to show the pump operator how to take in each water source. As each scene is gonna vary depending how far the water source is needed to supply it. Can take anywhere from 30mins to a hour depending.
That was really good.
Thanks for watching!
I'm confused, you have to be hooked up to a portable submersible pump and a marine unit for this to work?
To get full pressure
I saw a pump system like that in a video before, I think it was Germany or another European country where they had a big container or box truck with about half a mile of 8 inch hose it would lay out for supply line.
holland started it with the hydro sub mote system, every fire service in the uk has at least 2, however ours are transported on a prime mover- a fire truck which drops off the units using a hook lift, we got them after 9/11 when the government decided they where needed. it must be noted one of the first services in the uk to have them was shropshire, they are mainly a rural service and had regular water supply issues. the prime movers are usually based on MAN or scania chassis. Funnily enough my local fire service Cheshire has one in use at a call right now, alongside 12 other appliances.
WOW….. A lot of training to get it going.
Big truck!
I love your videos, but when in the samshellicans will you use this monster. The fire boats can do this already. And the Satellites are hardly used. Great video.
Thanks for watching
VERY NICE!!!!!!!11
I understand that there’s few pieces of unique equipment that’s being set up here and with there own ways of being set up. And I understand only in unique situations. I’m curious do they practice one system at a time, until they get efficient on set up times. And hydrates can’t supply some of them , and do they practice in extreme cold or is there a temperature limit per system? Yes I do have a few questions if anyone can answer one or more. I would appreciate it. Because I can see the benefits of each being used for unique situations.
SOC Members have been trained on the Hydro Pumps for a Long Time. Of Course if the river is frozen it's not gonna work well. This unit is gonna be very rarely used.
Hydrants can be used to supply this , just multiple hydrants. I remember visiting the quarters of the original super pumper in Williamsburg Brooklyn from time to time. The large hose tender that ran with the pumper unit had what in my opinion amounted to a fair sized walk in closet that contained fittings the could be used for every conceivable water supply scenario. Any officer or fire fighter assigned to the super pumper was considered a water supply wizard in my opinion.
10:23 He is Superman! 👏
HA
In the last year since this video as published, how many times has it actually been got to work at real incidents? Not just turned out, but used?
Hasn’t been used yet. It’s for fuel tank farms.
Interesting watching this. I'm in a smaller county FD where we are using everything from LDH in the urban & suburban areas off decent hydrant systems, to rural/urban interface with a mix of hydrant and tender/tanker water to rural & wildlands with all tender/tanker water shuttles.
Looks like 130PSI to the deck guns with about 25-30 PSI residual inlet from the video of the gages. With 1000 gal's of foam (assuming 3% Class B) that would be a big attack for an industrial fire. Especially if it can push that to attack engines downstream as a premixed solution.
I'm wondering if the rear LDH Storz fittings are intake or discharge? Also, for the 8" to the hydro pumps, is there a bend appliance to ease the hose transition over the quayside, would reduce the bend radius for better flow and less turbulence in the hose on the sharp 90 degree bend.
We run 8-12 lengths of 6" LDH on most of our urban and suburban engines, with at least 1,000 feet of 3" supply, and 1,000 feet of 2 1/2 attack in the bed generally, along with at least two 1 3/4 attack lines in either minuteman or triple lay. Our rural engines run more 3" and 2 1/2, and less LDH as we would not have as much total supply GPM due to tender/tanker supply shuttles. Most engines also have 100 feet of 'trash line' in a flat lay in the bumper.
During one training day I was the engineer and I remember the training Chief telling me to have the 2nd firefighter/plugman wrap the LDH at the North hydrant on the fairgrounds road and then take the engine all the way to the South field (1150 feet) and pump to a Blitzfire 400 feet away over a pair of 2 1/2. The evolution went well, we used every length of the LDH the engine had, but it took us forever to repack all the LDH and 2 1/2. (I don't know for sure, but I think he was mad at us for something.) Got a picture of the empty hose bed somewhere, was depressing.
Repacking LDH does not sound like a grand-ole time. 😣 My condolences for your knees and back 🤣
Rear connections are discharge. All intake is done on. 2 intakes on each side. Unit rolls with 6” valved reducers on them. In Skylers post the driver side valves were removed and fittings were attached to accommodate the 8” hose. The intakes on the opposite side were using the 6” valves.
Awesome!
Pretty dope!!!! Do you know if there will be one assigned to each borough?
No. Just one
Great video, but I don't understand the reason behind removing the relief valves. This is what they were meant for, you should only remove them if you are trying to draft. What's the reason?
Thank Christ for streets and avenues.
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Excellent video !
Thank you very much!
So you need all that other equipment to run the Super Plumer? That seems redundant, just to get it setup seems like a lot of man power! Is that pumper only used for boat fires or building fires also?
The unit is for prolonged incidents. It’s for fuel tank farms near the airports mainly.
Sure could have used this in Maui.
Question 1 Where will The Super Pumper Housed where the old one was on Tillery Street
FYI that 6 “ hose is a above ground Water Main
The men Don’t have to walk out the 6” Hose it will Drain Itself
Leave the one connected to the rig (shut down the Gate and open the other End it will drain by it self
What Rig has that 8 inch Black Hose ( Another above ground Water Main
E260
The 8” hose is part of the special operations command hydro sub submersible pumps system.
Why didn't they mount a Davit crane to the back of those trailers in order to place those pumps into the water? Would save a lot more time and safer.
Does anyone know what happened to the original Soopa Pumpa?
It’s in a fire truck museum I believe
also another question was this a ordered unit or a engine the got converted to this service in the shop
Ordered unit
Great video Skyler as always . Thanks for all the work you do making these videos .I just opened my own RUclips channel . I do have a question on this beast of a pumper . Where will this rig be houed in the city ??
E260
Looks like they will need a big support staff just to get that engine into operation
I have to ask,25min.& no water.What happens in winter under inclement conditions 🤔
This was training. Nobody was in a rush they are learning. This is easily going to take 20mins to 45mins to setup it all depends on where the water sources are going to be. And that’s to get full pressure. This is not a unit that’s gonna respond all the time. It’s for major fires and prolonged incidents
This truck could also draft from a river and supply 4or 5 engine's as well
Yes it can
Lots of resources in that training. What do you guys do if there's a call? Other stations have to cover?
To train a good amount of people on the truck. 6 satellites, back up companies and marine units have to be trained on it. Covers the whole NYC.
How healthy for the pumpers to be using salt water?
They are washed out after
As of this date 4/2024, has the super pumper yet been used to fight a fire?
No but been on 5+ calls