Howard is a great singer but when he joined, the heaviness was toned down so much and there's just no comparison to the powerful screams of Jesse. I was surprised to find out that Howard actually came from a much heavier track record in other projects. Alive or just breathing is their crowning achievement. I'm glad Jesse is back but I like that Howard comes back every now and then to collab either live or on "the signal fire", an incredible song. I learned all my screaming techniques from Jesse as a teen so I'm a bit biased also as a huge fan of Jesse Leach. I just feel like the heavy parts hit so much harder when he's here
When I saw a Killswitch Engage album ranking I immediately clicked. Killswitch Engage are my favorite band and I liked your list even though I don't agree with your ranking on some of the albums(mainly where you put As Daylight Dies). Putting Alive or Just Breathing at S tier was perfect, that's my favorite Killswitch album and perhaps my favorite album of all time.
1. Alive or just breathing 10/10 2. As daylight dies 9.95/10 3. Incarnate 9.92/10 4. Atonement 9.85/10 5. The end of heartache 9.75/10 6. Disarm the descent 9.6/10 7. S/T 9/10
Damn the As Daylight Dies opinion is sooooo controversial hahaha but damn I agree with Alive Or Just Breathing. That record is not only KsE’s best, but it’s definitely one of Metalcore’s greatest of all time. It holds up so well even to this year. The melodies, the breakdowns, the riffs… everything in that record just hits different. Anthemic choruses, heavy breakdowns, amazing melodic sections (every time I listen to The Element of One I get goosebumps, what an intro to a song.)
I personally have nostalgia for disarm descent cuz I was maybe seven when that album first came out and I remember my dad was just blast that album in his truck so when I go back and listen to that album I always find a song and I'm like oh I remember that
It’s hard to pick between The End Of Headache and As Daylight Dies but I’ll go with As Daylight Dies. Killswitch Engage Self Titled 2009 is very underrated and it’s not even bad. The only reason people don’t care to listen is cause the reviews on them.
Metal Trenches check out songs like “In A Dead World,” “The Return,” “Starting Over,” “Save me,” and “Lost.” The songs are good man! I heard bad reviews but I gave a try cause I wanted to listen to all albums and it was great.
Metal Trenches not your review since this is sorta new. I’m talking about the past. People really didn’t like it so others decided not to check it out.
In general, you made a great ranking, imo. Here's mine (I haven't listened Atonement yet): 1. Disarm The Descent 2. Incarnate 3. Alive Or Just Breathing 4. As Daylight Dies 5. The End Of Heartache 6. Killswitch Engage (2000) 7. Killswitch Engage (2009)
Now that I've finally listened to Atonement (which contains the song "As Sure As The Sun Will Rise", one of their best ones to date in my opinion ) I think here's my final ranking: 1. Disarm The Descent 2. Incarnate 3. Alive Or Just Breathing 4. Atonement 5. As Daylight Dies 6. The End Of Heartache 7. Killswitch Engage (2000) 8. Killswitch Engage (2009)
@@Alex-Tremonti Cool. I've gotta check out their later albums. You've got that Alter Bridge profile pic, do you have a ranking of their albums? Thanks.
@@thebooger_boy4002 Definitely! Their latest 3 albums are awesome, specially (for me) Disarm The Descent and Incarnate. Two of the best albums I've heard without a doubt. And, yeah, always! Here I write you my ranking of Alter Bridge albums ;): 1. Blackbird 2. Fortress 3. ABIII 4. Walk The Sky 5. One Day Remains 6. The Last Hero
@@Alex-Tremonti I heard Blackbird before (probably like 1-2 years ago) and think it's a masterpiece but I think I heard ABIII afterwards but didn't really get into it and I guess I just stopped listening then. I'll make sure to check all those albums out. Thanks again. You're awesome, stay safe!
To me personally, With the first 3 Albums (Alive Or Just Breathing, End Of Heartache and As Daylight Dies) I struggled to find songs I didnt like. With everything that came after, I struggled to find songs I DID like. Those first 3 albums, Just like SlipKnoTs first 3, are them at their absolute peak.
I can see that. I kept hearing about how great Disarm the descent is and I really only like about half of the album, too many of the tracks blur together and I think on the earlier albums they were great at having each track stand on it’s own. Really don’t get the love for Descent, it’s okay. I always held the first three up high and I forgot how good As daylight dies is, they came out swinging with that album. Incarnate same thing as Descent, I like about half the album, but somehow I like it a little more than Descent. I think fans and critics were maybe a little overly positive since Jesse came back and I’m glad he came back but maybe they lost a little something when Howard left. And I’ve yet to hear Atonement all the way through but we’ll see.
ok had to see if you said anything about killswitch. Glad to see you do like them and you do mention they have melodic influences here or whatever. they're in my top 10 favorite metal bands of all time. judas priest, megadeth, strapping young lad, nevermore, between the buried and me, killswitch engage, soilwork, in flames, messhugah, mudvayne. I had another one I forgot lol. dying fetus is up there. oh Extol is one of my favorites. a Christian metal band I grew up loving. Undeceived is an amazing album if you've never heard it.
I always thought as daylight dies was one of their best albums but relistening to their whole discography it’s not that good I think people also forget that This Fire as well as the Holy Diver cover are not on the original album. My ranking goes as follows. 1. Alive or Just Breathing S 2. Atonement S 3. The End of Heartache A 4. Incarnate B 5. As Daylight Dies C 6. Disarm the Decent C 7. Killswitch Engage 2 D 8. Killswitch Engage 1 D I also think that atonement is more consistent than end of heartache even though end of heartache might have the better hits but that’s debatable. Also Idk but I really dig incarnate its more spacy to me and different. Also Embrace the journey is one of my favorite songs. Last disarm the decent has some amazing singles but it’s very similar to as daylight dies as it has some of their best songs but is inconsistent. Turning point kicks ass though.
Maaaan why'd you have to do Daylight Dies like that 😩 Daylight Dies, Absolution, Arms of Sorrow, My Curse, Break The Silence, Let the Bridges Burn and THIS FIRE are all 10/10s. My Curse, Arms of Sorrow and This Fire are all in my top 5 Killswitch tracks
I haven't listened to the self titled albums or the latest one but I'd bump Disarm The Descent to an A tier personally. Everything else I'd agree with I will admit Daylight Dies is a weird one. I'd argue it has some of their best songs. This Is Absolution, The Arms Of Sorrow, My Curse, This Fire Burns and Holy Diver but everything else is very forgettable
1. The end of heartache 2. Alive or just breathing 3. Daylight dies 4. Atonement 5. The rest of them have a couple good songs, but overall are on a much lower level
My personal ranking: 1. Incarnate 2. Disarm the Descent 3. Atonement 4. As Daylight Dies 5. KSE 2009 (honestly interchangeable with ADD, incredibly underrated and probably Howard's best vocals ever; This is Goodbye is absolutely devastating) 6. The End of Heartache 7. Alive or Just Breathing 8. KSE 2000
This is super tough but I think I would order them like this: 1. As Daylight Dies 2. Alive Or Just Breathing 3. The End Of Heartache 4. Disarm The Descent 5. Atonement 6. Incarnate 7. Killswitch Engage (2009)
There is no way on God's green earth that any of the killswitch albums with Jesse are anywhere NEAR the quality of the albums Howard put out with them. As daylight dies and the end of heartache are S-tier that's non negotiable.
Oh come on, no way? Alive or just breathing is an incredible album. I could understand that opinion if this album didn’t exist but it does and it goes toe to toe with the Howard albums if not better. It’s a classic for a reason. I can get behind your take on the Howard albums but I think it should also be acknowledged that Alive or just breathing is S tier.
Incarnate worse then the SE2?......again opinions are like buttholes...while incarnate was kinna dissapointong....its masterpiece imo compared to the SE2.
Dude daylight dies is S tier even the bonus tracks are great. EOH is A tier great album but the last 3 songs are not very good.this coming from a guy who hates metalcore
This list is pure blasphemy, to have Atonement ahead of INCARNATE is just mind boggling 🙄 Also based off this list they only have 3 good albums 🤔 I have been listening to metal since 1984 so I trust my ears and analogy way more than yourself. The fact you're ranking this list with lettering like "S" tier is just nerdy, this isn't 2k22 Myteam 🤫
I don’t think you understand how tier lists work. Also maybe stop and reread your comment and realize you’re self-reporting that you’re a grown man trying to protect his over-inflated ego in a RUclips comments section…
@@MetalTrenches I more than understand tier lists, you literally think you're some GOD of metal, yet your narcissistic blasphemy shines through the more you open your pathetic mouth 🤫
Dude As Daylight Dies is 100% S tier. That album is AMAZING. Give it a re-listen.
Really is. Wayyy better than Incarnate and Disarm The Decent.
I relistened right before recording. Just doesn’t hold up
@@MetalTrenches I respectfully disagree. That album is a masterpiece.
It's at least an A in my opinion there isn't a weak song on it
It's at least A tier. Putting it in C tier is just asinine.
Putting As Daylight Dies in C tier is criminal, every song could be a single
Howard is a great singer but when he joined, the heaviness was toned down so much and there's just no comparison to the powerful screams of Jesse. I was surprised to find out that Howard actually came from a much heavier track record in other projects. Alive or just breathing is their crowning achievement. I'm glad Jesse is back but I like that Howard comes back every now and then to collab either live or on "the signal fire", an incredible song. I learned all my screaming techniques from Jesse as a teen so I'm a bit biased also as a huge fan of Jesse Leach. I just feel like the heavy parts hit so much harder when he's here
When I saw a Killswitch Engage album ranking I immediately clicked. Killswitch Engage are my favorite band and I liked your list even though I don't agree with your ranking on some of the albums(mainly where you put As Daylight Dies). Putting Alive or Just Breathing at S tier was perfect, that's my favorite Killswitch album and perhaps my favorite album of all time.
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Daylight is 100% S tier
1. Alive or just breathing 10/10
2. As daylight dies 9.95/10
3. Incarnate 9.92/10
4. Atonement 9.85/10
5. The end of heartache 9.75/10
6. Disarm the descent 9.6/10
7. S/T 9/10
Alfred Garcia 🤘🏻
well someone is a die hard fan!!
Damn the As Daylight Dies opinion is sooooo controversial hahaha but damn I agree with Alive Or Just Breathing. That record is not only KsE’s best, but it’s definitely one of Metalcore’s greatest of all time. It holds up so well even to this year. The melodies, the breakdowns, the riffs… everything in that record just hits different. Anthemic choruses, heavy breakdowns, amazing melodic sections (every time I listen to The Element of One I get goosebumps, what an intro to a song.)
I personally have nostalgia for disarm descent cuz I was maybe seven when that album first came out and I remember my dad was just blast that album in his truck so when I go back and listen to that album I always find a song and I'm like oh I remember that
It’s hard to pick between The End Of Headache and As Daylight Dies but I’ll go with As Daylight Dies. Killswitch Engage Self Titled 2009 is very underrated and it’s not even bad. The only reason people don’t care to listen is cause the reviews on them.
heelgill as I said I don’t like the self titled at all. Curious what you like about it
Metal Trenches check out songs like “In A Dead World,” “The Return,” “Starting Over,” “Save me,” and “Lost.” The songs are good man! I heard bad reviews but I gave a try cause I wanted to listen to all albums and it was great.
@@heelgill Had nothing to do with the reviews for me. I gave it a few listens and just could not get into it.
Metal Trenches not your review since this is sorta new. I’m talking about the past. People really didn’t like it so others decided not to check it out.
heelgill Got another tier list on the channel you enjoy?
In general, you made a great ranking, imo.
Here's mine (I haven't listened Atonement yet):
1. Disarm The Descent
2. Incarnate
3. Alive Or Just Breathing
4. As Daylight Dies
5. The End Of Heartache
6. Killswitch Engage (2000)
7. Killswitch Engage (2009)
Now that I've finally listened to Atonement (which contains the song "As Sure As The Sun Will Rise", one of their best ones to date in my opinion ) I think here's my final ranking:
1. Disarm The Descent
2. Incarnate
3. Alive Or Just Breathing
4. Atonement
5. As Daylight Dies
6. The End Of Heartache
7. Killswitch Engage (2000)
8. Killswitch Engage (2009)
@@Alex-Tremonti Cool. I've gotta check out their later albums. You've got that Alter Bridge profile pic, do you have a ranking of their albums? Thanks.
@@thebooger_boy4002 Definitely! Their latest 3 albums are awesome, specially (for me) Disarm The Descent and Incarnate. Two of the best albums I've heard without a doubt. And, yeah, always! Here I write you my ranking of Alter Bridge albums ;):
1. Blackbird
2. Fortress
3. ABIII
4. Walk The Sky
5. One Day Remains
6. The Last Hero
@@Alex-Tremonti I heard Blackbird before (probably like 1-2 years ago) and think it's a masterpiece but I think I heard ABIII afterwards but didn't really get into it and I guess I just stopped listening then. I'll make sure to check all those albums out. Thanks again. You're awesome, stay safe!
To me personally, With the first 3 Albums (Alive Or Just Breathing, End Of Heartache and As Daylight Dies) I struggled to find songs I didnt like. With everything that came after, I struggled to find songs I DID like. Those first 3 albums, Just like SlipKnoTs first 3, are them at their absolute peak.
I can see that. I kept hearing about how great Disarm the descent is and I really only like about half of the album, too many of the tracks blur together and I think on the earlier albums they were great at having each track stand on it’s own. Really don’t get the love for Descent, it’s okay. I always held the first three up high and I forgot how good As daylight dies is, they came out swinging with that album. Incarnate same thing as Descent, I like about half the album, but somehow I like it a little more than Descent. I think fans and critics were maybe a little overly positive since Jesse came back and I’m glad he came back but maybe they lost a little something when Howard left. And I’ve yet to hear Atonement all the way through but we’ll see.
you forgot their 2000 self titled album
ok had to see if you said anything about killswitch. Glad to see you do like them and you do mention they have melodic influences here or whatever. they're in my top 10 favorite metal bands of all time. judas priest, megadeth, strapping young lad, nevermore, between the buried and me, killswitch engage, soilwork, in flames, messhugah, mudvayne. I had another one I forgot lol. dying fetus is up there. oh Extol is one of my favorites. a Christian metal band I grew up loving. Undeceived is an amazing album if you've never heard it.
What did you think of the production on Atonement? Thanks.
Love it. I think it's a vast step forwards for them.
Killswitch Engage debut has this eastern/spanish flavour in harmony/melodies, it’s sad that they rarely use this sound since AoJB
I always thought as daylight dies was one of their best albums but relistening to their whole discography it’s not that good I think people also forget that This Fire as well as the Holy Diver cover are not on the original album. My ranking goes as follows.
1. Alive or Just Breathing S
2. Atonement S
3. The End of Heartache A
4. Incarnate B
5. As Daylight Dies C
6. Disarm the Decent C
7. Killswitch Engage 2 D
8. Killswitch Engage 1 D
I also think that atonement is more consistent than end of heartache even though end of heartache might have the better hits but that’s debatable. Also Idk but I really dig incarnate its more spacy to me and different. Also Embrace the journey is one of my favorite songs. Last disarm the decent has some amazing singles but it’s very similar to as daylight dies as it has some of their best songs but is inconsistent. Turning point kicks ass though.
Killswitch Engage 2009 definitely lacked heart and passion because that's when Howard wanted out
Almost better to just wait on the album then
Totally desagree, Jesse is incredible.
Maaaan why'd you have to do Daylight Dies like that 😩 Daylight Dies, Absolution, Arms of Sorrow, My Curse, Break The Silence, Let the Bridges Burn and THIS FIRE are all 10/10s. My Curse, Arms of Sorrow and This Fire are all in my top 5 Killswitch tracks
We all have our personal tastes. I do love My Curse
Me whose favorite albums are KSE and incarnate 😭😭😭
Those are good albums, fine for settling in type of records, nothing innovative for them but solid. I like Incarnate more than Descent.
As Daylight Dies at C?! I respect your opinion and channel but man I cant get down with that choice.
Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind.
did you listen to the special edition with the additional tracks? 2 of my favorites from the album is not on the regular edition@@MetalTrenches
AOJB, Atonement, ADD, EOH, ST1, Incarnate, Disarm, ST2
Matt Walter Glad to see others ranking Atonement so high
as daylight dies is much better than end of heartache imo. end of heartache is mostly boring save for a few tracks
Sci Fi Early 2000's Guy madness
@Metal Trenches okay my opinion has definitely changed but I still think ADD is better
I agree I like as daylight does better but they are neck and neck in quality
Both are strong albums really.
I haven't listened to the self titled albums or the latest one but I'd bump Disarm The Descent to an A tier personally. Everything else I'd agree with
I will admit Daylight Dies is a weird one. I'd argue it has some of their best songs. This Is Absolution, The Arms Of Sorrow, My Curse, This Fire Burns and Holy Diver but everything else is very forgettable
Yeah, very inconsistent. Major high points but also a lot of duds.
Alive or Just Breathing, The End of Heartache and As Daylight Dies are S Tier albums. Everything else is B Tier.
1. The end of heartache
2. Alive or just breathing
3. Daylight dies
4. Atonement
5. The rest of them have a couple good songs, but overall are on a much lower level
Your top three is the same as mine.
You think the self titled is better than incarnate? Bruh, for real? Man I like Incarnate but hey opinions are just that.
My personal ranking:
1. Incarnate
2. Disarm the Descent
3. Atonement
4. As Daylight Dies
5. KSE 2009 (honestly interchangeable with ADD, incredibly underrated and probably Howard's best vocals ever; This is Goodbye is absolutely devastating)
6. The End of Heartache
7. Alive or Just Breathing
8. KSE 2000
Fixation on the darkness. Aojb best metalcore album of all time
This is super tough but I think I would order them like this:
1. As Daylight Dies
2. Alive Or Just Breathing
3. The End Of Heartache
4. Disarm The Descent
5. Atonement
6. Incarnate
7. Killswitch Engage (2009)
Unpopular opinion: My Curse isn't a great song. There. I killed myself
There is no way on God's green earth that any of the killswitch albums with Jesse are anywhere NEAR the quality of the albums Howard put out with them. As daylight dies and the end of heartache are S-tier that's non negotiable.
Insert The Big Lebowski meme
Oh come on, no way? Alive or just breathing is an incredible album. I could understand that opinion if this album didn’t exist but it does and it goes toe to toe with the Howard albums if not better. It’s a classic for a reason. I can get behind your take on the Howard albums but I think it should also be acknowledged that Alive or just breathing is S tier.
Signal fire has Howard jones on vocals too
AOJB best album. U kno ur stuff 🍻
Metalcore was life for me in the 2000's
As daylight dies is there best
Bro will always put the newest album in A
Disarm is an A
Don't disagree
Wow As daylight dies in c?
Incarnate worse then the SE2?......again opinions are like buttholes...while incarnate was kinna dissapointong....its masterpiece imo compared to the SE2.
Agree to disagree
Tier list fit for a king or review albums please
As Daylight Dies is A tier. Incarnate is B tier. Your B tier entries are C tier. Fixed! :)
I wasn’t aware that my opinion needed to reflect your opinion.
Dude daylight dies is S tier even the bonus tracks are great. EOH is A tier great album but the last 3 songs are not very good.this coming from a guy who hates metalcore
Agree with the last 3 songs being meh. I think people forget about those
This list is pure blasphemy, to have Atonement ahead of INCARNATE is just mind boggling 🙄 Also based off this list they only have 3 good albums 🤔 I have been listening to metal since 1984 so I trust my ears and analogy way more than yourself. The fact you're ranking this list with lettering like "S" tier is just nerdy, this isn't 2k22 Myteam 🤫
I don’t think you understand how tier lists work. Also maybe stop and reread your comment and realize you’re self-reporting that you’re a grown man trying to protect his over-inflated ego in a RUclips comments section…
@@MetalTrenches I more than understand tier lists, you literally think you're some GOD of metal, yet your narcissistic blasphemy shines through the more you open your pathetic mouth 🤫