The comments are teaching me that, yes, there actually are a bunch of people who believe forcing a 13-year-old to abandon his principles and murder someone would have been a more satisfying way to end this children's cartoon. Wild.
I think for the sake of it being a children's cartoon, energy bending was necessary, since it has to remain PG, but I think that if the story didn't have to worry about that, then the better ending would have been Aang having to kill Ozai and learning that not every conflict can be resolved peacefully - that there are some people who cannot be reasoned with. I think that showing that every set of principles and beliefs has flaws and exceptions is a very human and realistic message, even if it not the one you want to hear.
Nitpik: Ozai was trying to kill Aang in the fight, so at that point it would have been self defense, not murder. Killing to stop someone from killing others also is not legally or culturally considered murder in most nations. Betrayal of Aang's principles: yes Murder: Not quite
I think they could have just slowly built on the lionturtle lore from the scroll from the Library episode. I think if Aang actively went on a quest to find it instead of being passive, it would feel more satisfying.
Agree, it's kinda unfortunate that the first mention of him is basically a joke. Piando also mentions them, but he makes it sound as if they're just another hybrid animal rather than something special, and it feels weird that Piando knows about them and have statues of them, while Roku and the other avatars don't.
Agreed. I think it would make more sense if Aang took the action himself to seek out the lion turtle after consulting with the past Avatars. Then his disappearance from the others would seem less like a mystery for them to solve and more like them assuming Aang is running away from his responsibilities again.
@@samasthtcI think he’s referring to how when Aang is on the lion turtle, Roku doesn’t know where he is. But I don’t actually think that means the other avatars don’t know about lion turtles, just that when you see a forest, you don’t assume it’s in the back of a giant creature
Ehhh still, it still completely bypasses the whole internal conflict aang has been experiencing for pretty much the entirety of season 3. Its not JUST the lion turtle, its throwing away potential character development
Bro, if Aang wanted to kill Ozai, it would be the quickest fight. He just had to redirect the lightning at the start back at Ozai and that would be it.
Ngl tgat would be funny. Aang redirects the lightning straight back at the fatherloed, he is dead, aang leaves the avatar state and goes - so is that it?
What if Ozai just simply dodged the redirection and never shot lightning at Aang again? If Azula did it in the comics then Ozai is more than capable of doing it here.
They did bring up the lion turtle in the library in a throw away line Aang: "hey look at this weird lion turtle thing!" Sokka: "ehh I've seen weirder."
Yeah but by that sense, they could have just switched the lion turtle with the cabbage man and nothing would have changed, as the cabbage man has also appeared in the show before!
@@BWHERE This does fix some minor issues with ATLA, but only raises more things that need adjustment in LOK. Primarily if the lion turtles never energy bent: taking and giving the elements to humans, how would Wan have ever become the first Avatar? also please don't attack me for mentioning LOK, lol
@@BindingBenderI think it would be simple enough to leave it as the Lion Turtles bestowing the ability to bend in general to humans. (If Aang uses it to take away bending, logically it can be used to grant it as well.) But then, instead of going from Lion Turtle to Lion Turtle, the Avatar Wan story should go on to show Wan seeking out and learning from the Original Benders: the Sky Bison, Dragons, Badger Moles, and the Ocean and Moon (maybe even in Koi fish form since it's stated in ATLA that they transitioned to the human realm in ancient times). Only after encountering each of them should he then meet Raava, who he aids in battle against Vaatu using the elements as well as energy bending, fusing with Raava in the process.
@@BindingBenderim fine with things needing to be changed in LOK to make sense because lets be honest, LOK was far worse in worldbuilding then atla and ruined multyple concepts atla introduced
@@thomicrisler9855 Apologies for the delayed response, but I respect this adjustment, though if I'm being honest I'm fairly happy with ATLA and LOK, but I fear for upcoming show
I love seeing someone actually look at avatar in a constructive manner as the finale always gave me this empty feeling when I finished it that I couldn’t figure out why
i guess it’s something people were waiting for for years so the expectations were very high. albeit still a great finale and i loved it but maybe some expectations people had were unrealistic
To me, it was as simple as briefly expand the discussion on The Library episode, and have them read on an inscription stating that these beings are said to be better bendings than the greatest avatars known. I believe that it didn't really needed to be stated too much, it feels mystical this way. I'd always seen a spirit like the Lion Turtle almost like a demigod. Also, some people say it appeared from nowhere, but Aang had been meditating a lot seeking for spiritual help. Your solution of having Aang figuring it out himself is great, though. Great video.
I've seen this show, from start to finish, at least 10 times by now. This is the first take I've heard of changes in its story that are in the spirit of the story. I really like it. I would like to add a few more instances of set-up to this. The first - Bloodbending should be another clue for Aang. There should be a line, when they're discussing how to defeat the fire lord, when Zuko mentions Bloodbending as a possible solution and Katara stops him and says that it she doesn't ever want to feel that way again. Aang asks what way? She says 'like she's holding their body hostage from their spirit which she can feel is trying to resist' or something like that. The second - Right from the point he starts getting anxious about the invasion and his fight with the firelord he should begin having strange dreams about the ocean, and often times just look towards the coast suddenly as if he felt like something is watching him. There's a lot of scenes in the fire nation where they are near a coast so there are a lot of opportunities to foreshadow. The third- During his training with the Guru, when they are discussing the Third Eye chakra and dispelling the illusion of separation, there should be a more obvious line but said in the joking mannerisms of the Guru. When they talk about how all the nations are actually one, he should say something along the lines of 'just the nations?' and Aang can say 'what do you mean' and he can be the first one to drop this idea into Aang's head that maybe the illusion of separation goes beyond just how we see people but also to how we see the elements that make up the world and you can leave the scene with Aang thoughtfully pondering that before going on to the next chakra.
TLDR at the end. I love that this revision wouldn’t be hard to implement, and that all the bending styles could still have originally been learned by observing and practicing techniques taught by specific creatures rather than gifted by the lion turtles. (Fire/Dragons, Earth/Badger Moles, Air/Sky Bison, Water/Moon & Ocean spirits.) It opens up the possibility of other creatures, beings or even concepts possibly teaching humanity new; bending styles, techniques, life lessons, ways to influence ourselves and the world around us. The Lion Turtles inclusion into the story then becomes an introduction in learning a brand new bending style, essentially spirit bending. All of the foreshadowing suggested if done with this goal in mind would have subtle taught Aang this bending style thru the entire series. It’s only fitting then for the Avatar to be the first to learn this style and make use of it. However all the records and mentions of the lion turtle prior to meeting one could have shown attempts of previous masters and scholars to learn from the creature. (Communicating with and influencing the decisions of others would be the basics of the bending styles and temporally controlling or permanently altering another would be the more advanced techniques. Keeping in mind the fact that spiritual beings literally inhabit and influence parts of the Avatar world it only makes sense that eventually a bending style specifically for interacting with them would develop eventually) In the Final scenes of the battle I’d make it Aangs internal struggle learning how to properly use the more advanced methods of this new bending style. I’d also add copt out a line that explains why no one else was able to learn this style before Aang. Something along the lines of “To bend another’s spirit mine must be as light and free as air, able to push and pull with the purity of water, my own resolve as direct and unyielding as earth, as full of life and permanently altering as fire.” Then in Kora the Rava backstory could be changed such that the first Avatar also learned spirit bending from the lion turtles. Unlike the other nations and bending styles he was alone and came across Rava and her battle before he could teach any other people the bending style. After bonding with Rava they decided to keep it secret so there wouldn’t ever be a dark avatar. Then in Koras day the birth of the new nation of republic city also has the plot of people wanting to come and learn this new bending style from Aang who was more concerned with first re-establishing the air nation but taught some spirit bending too but no-one really picked it up and as technology was being developed and revolutionized most people just turned to that as part of their cultural identity. These changes would give Koras villains more consistency with the in universe lore. (Much like lightning bending is a water bending technique incorporated into the fire bending style: Amon using water bending with a spirit bending technique to mimic blood bending or at least pretending it’s blood bending when he is doing some minor spirit bending, Unalaq using spirit bending to bond with Vaatu as the first Avatar feared someone would, Zaheer applying a spirit bending technique to his air bending to actually give himself flight, and Kuviras conflict also better incorporating the conflict between spirit and technology) TLDR: Basically I think if this proposed change was implemented as a new bending style into the AtlA universe it would solve the continuity problems in both series, and introduce another element for the writers to incorporate more life lessons into as this is meant as a story to help children understand and make good choices in our complex society.
@@toad6284 Yeah, I never liked the Rava backstory with Lion Turtles teaching bending when Toph clearly learned through the Badgers rather than a Lion Turtle. And proposing spirit bending would kind of still fit with the Greek philosophy of the elements, namely aether(?) I think. Or it had a different name, essentially what the stars and celestial bodies consisted of.
@@Captain_MelonLord The lion turtles didn't teach bending though, they simply bestowed the power to bend upon those who couldn't, humans. When talking about Avatar Juan, it's never stated that the Lion Turtles teach you how to use the power, only that they gave the power to wield it, and that Juan learned how to properly bend fire from the dragons before going to the different turtles to get their elements bestowed to him
@@pancakewaffles I admit I prolly misunderstood the backstory then. It's been a while since I watched it (most obviously because I referred to the first avatar as Rava in my first comment, oops) and that explanation makes more sense.
Agreed, I actually don't even think Energy Bending has to be invented by Aang... It can just be him reinventing it. It's still a result of his own intuition and ingenuity, but afterward they discover it is an ancient technique that can tie him to his ancestors and heritage; something that was lost that he resurrected.
I think this is by far the worst re-write that you could do to the problem. It changes Aang into a reckless Gary Stue who goes unprepared into the fight and just hoeps for a stroke of genius in the last second, which of course then comes. Isn't that how Rey operates? Isn't that equally a deus ex machina moment because the solution appears suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere and exactly when needed?
I actually have an idea for a different rewrite: the lion turtle is the animal guide of a previous Avatar, a much more ancient one, who teaches him chi-blocking. Aang isn't brought to some random cliff, but to a temple where he can meditate. When he is touched by the lion turtle, he sees the memories and contacts the avatar, a much more ancient one, who is the creator of chi-blocking. There is no giving or taking bending powers, just blocking them, but by combining the four elements in one's body into pure energy, the chi can be blocked permanently. When he takes Ozais powers and rejoins the crew, the conversation goes a bit different. Aang: "I took away his powerbending." Toph: "Wow, how did you do THAT?" Aang: "I blocked his chi." Sokka: "Like Tai Lee?" Aang: "Well, not exactly. With the power of all the elements I can close them completely. I hope it works, I'm not completely sure what I did there." And at the end in Irohs tee shop there's a scene outside where Aang trains with Tai Lee, or even with all the Kyoshi warriors. It could be interesting because it would imply that Tai Lee is a descendant from an ancient fighting group that helped the Avatar, similar to the white lotus. And the Kyoshi warriors are gonna close the loop. Alternatively the lion turtle could bring him to a descendant of the fire avatar before Roku who lives in a traveling circus that just passed the sea from the fire nation to the earth kingdom. Because fire already is energy, so fire bending is energy bending, that's how both he and Tai Lee know how to do it, they know the energy flows of the human body in and out.
YES!!! 😮 Yes yes yes yes! I've always seen the finale like Aang choosing at the finish line to be Aang instead of the Avatar, stopping just short of truly accepting his calling and thus failing his growing arc. This solution resolves that wonderfully, by allowing Aang to defeat Ozai as only Aang the full-blown Avatar can. Honestly, I'm perfectly okay with the Lion Turtle only being foreshadowed that one time in the library episode. As long as, like you describe, the principles that make energy-bending work are presented and emphasized. This is a genius way to resolve it. Thank you so much! 🎉 Edit: Also, if the show overtly connected Tai Lee's chi-blocking to entering the Avatar state, then that (mostly) solves that one major contrivance. We just need Sokka to throw out "maybe let us hit you hard in the back" on down time to brainstorm solutions for Aang. The team could ignore the idea, dismiss the idea, or even say it's theoretically potentially possible but not worth trying, and boom. Now we know why the rock works.
19:20 one thing I would change about the flashbacks here is that they should pile up the negative memories first while Ozai's darkness encroaches and then at the last second with Aangs tiny light everything goes quiet and the camera is shaky. Then Aang remembers that the lion turtle told him that the lion turtle told him he sensed his anguish and to weather the lies (according to your change). This will make Aang remember all the bad memories he already remembered but he will also remember the gaang enduring them together and this will let Aang finally learn energy bending by being an unwavering light in a world of darkness.
One huge flaw with your argument...how do you think all those fire benders on the Air Temples died? Yes, the Air Nomads were pacifists, but not to the extreme that you're suggesting they were. Saying that anybody who thinks Aang should have killed Ozai is agreeing with Ozai is just a fundamental misunderstanding of the Air Nomads and what information the series presented us about them. They went down fighting Edit: clarity
We only have confirmation that Monk Gyatso killed any fire benders, and he was always shown to be more of a pragmatist. He was the one who wanted to break tradition and allow Aang to grow up as a normal boy instead of being raised as the avatar. The other air nomads were massacred without any resistance. Aang even confirms that they have no formal military. Besides, one single Airbender, refusing to uphold the morals of his people is far less consequential when he was still one of many. Aang is literally the entire nation of Air Nomads in one boy, he represents the people alone.
"Air nomad genocide" means litterly destroying not only their people, but also their culture and their places. So if the fire nation is forcing them to act against their culture, it isn't what air nomads believed. Actually from what air nomads believed we know only from aang that is the last one of their kind.
Great video. I generally like the idea of improving the introduction of energy bending. My original thought was to detach it from the lion turtle completely but keep it as a "surprise power up" that is unlocked by truely representing all 4 elements in harmony: steadfast conviction in your own beliefs (earth), evading ideas you recognise as harmful (air), embracing change where it's appropriate/important (water) and maybe most importantly: having an appreciation for the flame of life. I like your idea as well, tho.
Yeah I agree 100% Aang shouldn’t have killed Ozai but energy bending should have been his technique with only a little help of the lion turtle, great video keep it up ❤
Yes! This is what I always say, killing Ozai would be the death of Aang’s culture. Aang peacefully defeating Ozai was him claiming a small shred of victory and survival for his people This is a great list of changes, Ill be referring back to this whenever I think about this issue with the finale, it’s got my full support
Honestly, I think the answer was right there. He should've just banished him to the spirit world, where he'd have no bending. There were already a bunch of instances where his spiritual attunement is shown, and how he travels between spaces. We also know spirits can, and constantly do, steal people away into the spirit realm. Body and all. We see it, at least, with the spirit of the forest and with the face stealer. There's literally nothing they needed to change anywhere else. Just fight, he goes avatar mode, has a few flashbacks of his interactions with spirits and what they've done, decides not to kill him, incapacitates him, and does his avatar spirit magic to phase him into the spirit world. They show how he can't bend anymore, and how he'll now have to deal with being powerless (literally same punishment, but it makes sense). I seriously can't fathom how such genius writers couldn't come up with that solution, cliché as it may be.
@@GhostEmblem Vaatu didn't exist yet in Avatar's mythos, so yeah he'd probably just let Ozai free in the spirit world as there is virtually no damage he could do from that space & may even have the possibility for personal change.
This would've also set up the possibility of Korra meeting Ozai when she went into the spirit world in season 2. She already met Iroh there, implying that he's either dead or people going to the spirit world don't age, making it logical why Ozai is still there as well. Iroh being there also felt somewhat random imo (like they included him just for the fan service and to have some wise character to tell Korra what to do next), but Ozai being there would then at least actually make sense. I'll leave up for interpretation how an interaction between Korra and Ozai would play out, but it would've definitely been interesting. It could even set up an old villain as a new (and much greater) threat if he discovered Vaatu instead of Unalaq for example.
Idk that kinda Just feels like killing him without saying it, "i didn't kill him, i Just sent him to a place only spirits and dead things go, and he can't come back"
I would cut out the lion turtles and have Aang learn Chi Blocking, and he does some advanced level chi blocking combined with avatar state maybe, to take away his bending. It's already been established it can temporally take away bending, so this makes perfect sense!
This is very similar to what they did with blood bending in Korra, permanent chi blocking. I think this could theoretically work for the finale but Aang would need to have trained in it for at least a season leading up to the fight.
Aang killing Ozai would be a second death of his people, because he, willingly, would be abandoning their teachings and ways. In a certain way, it would be to bring to completion what Ozai and his forefathers intendend to.
I agree, the Lion Turtle should be more present than one minor segment in the Library, something that important can't fly over the heads and come back at the final season as if it was "foreshadowed" it's not, they didn't even mentioned how especial it was, they treat it like a random animal and it was a mysthical creature at the end. This needed more time, more hints, one single scene it's not enough.
The lion turtle didn’t give him the ability, it showed him. His connection to the spirit world and ability to quickly learn bending style allowed him to do it. It wasn’t just dropped in his lap
5:04 Love this video but hard disagree here. I think Katara not forgiving him is one of the most mature and overlooked parts of the show. It’s refreshing to see a piece of media for young audiences be nuanced about forgiveness vs. acceptance. Choosing to move on and not perpetuate the cycle of violence is a valuable lesson. Revenge is often hallow and isn’t the path to happiness and inner peace. Katara was right not to take the violent path. Forgiveness is an entirely different story. Forgiveness is earned, and not owed. What steps did Yon Rha take to earn Katara’s forgiveness? Do we even know he’s truly sorry? He only apologized under the threat of death and there’s no indication of remorse before that point. He even selfishly offered his mother’s life in place of his own. He destroyed her family and her childhood and he’s never shown regret for that. The show is not saying forgiveness is useless. Katara DOES forgive Zuko. That’s because he’s earned it. He’s shown remorse and earned her trust. There’s a difference between these two characters. I also love that the show doesn’t judge whether her decision not to forgive is right or wrong. It’s just the path she’s chosen.
I believe you are conflating forgiveness and absolution. Forgiveness is to let go of hatred and malice, to release the hold someone else has on your heart. You can forgive someone while also cutting them out of your life. Absolution is to say that they are no longer culpable, or don't deserve to be treated differently anymore. Katara should NOT absolve Yon Rha because of his foolishness and insincere apology - but she should forgive him, so the anger doesn't burn a hole in her heart. Forgiveness is for yourself, absolution is for the person who wronged you.
I don't know about OP, but I don't think Katara should have forgiven him even by your definition of foregiveness. Hate and anger are very useful emotions in small doses: they teach you to protect yourself and others from similar situations, and they spark righteousness. Lots of activists who ever fought for a better place did so because they hated how unfair things were, and they were angry at the people letting things be unfair. So yeah, Katara should definitely hate the soldier who burned her mom alive (headcanon) for the rest of her life if she so wishes, and I don't think this hate would decrease her life quality in any way, as long as it doesn't become an obsession. On the contrary, I think it will motivate her to continue fighting for justice. Not saying that she would no longer fight for justice the second she would hypothetically forgive him, just that she chose not to and that's perfectly valid. Just like Aang choosing to forgive is also valid.
No, that is very unhealthy. Choosing not to forgive, choosing to hold on to hatred, it only hurts yourself. www.apa.org/monitor/2017/01/ce-corner www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/in-depth/forgiveness/art-20047692
Just taking a slightly unpopular view, but it seems like in this version that energy bending in this form is a rediscovered ancient technique, rather than a brand new one like you’re describing, because if we tie in the Legend of Korra into this series, it all evens out, even with these changes.
I initially wasn't a fan of the changes, but when you got to the end you sold me. I do think more foreshadowing could be used, but I really like how you tied in the spirit water into energy bending. Maybe it could also tie in with lightning redirection, since it's manipulating the energy within you, and there should be more focus besides some comments in passing since we already had one that was barely noticeable until you look back from the end.
I could go for that version; honestly, tho, the whole "blocked chakra, then unblocked by a random rock" thing bugged me WAY more than the lion turtle ever did.
saaaame, it throws all of Guru Pathik's teachings in the trash, together with the katara vs the world dilema. What was the point of season 2 finale if a rock solves everything in the end?
I think the rock is misread by a lot of people. To me Aang functionally died for that segement of the fight. Through out the show Aang is shown to enter the 'survival'/'triggered' avatar state by a constant glow of his eyes and tattoos. Other avatars (like Kyoshi in Avatar Day, and the ones shown in the convo with Roku in The Avatar State) have a momentary flash in and then perform their action. When Aang got hit by the rock 'survival' avatar took over his body, confirmed by the fact that when Ozai is about to be executed it's the other avatars talking as one. (I don't remember it exactly but the closed captioning even explictly says something similiar for the lines) At the last moment Aang comes back and regains control of his body, does the energy bending, and puts out the fires with the "quick flash" avatar state we saw other avatars do. Aang didn't master or control the avatar state until that final moment after bending his own energy to defeat Ozai which if you think Pathik is right, would be the moment the Chakra was unlocked. (I counter that like Yang Chen Pathik is wrong in thinking being the avatar is about sacrificing to become a vessel for power)
@@jacobmerrill693 that's a solid analysis but it doesn't change that the plot beats go like this: aang could not get into the avatar state, then got hit by a rock, then he could get into the avatar state. This chain of events is some of the poorest writing in the show imo. And sure, maybe Guru Pathik was wrong or lying about earthly attachments, but this would be a cheap retcon because the Guru episode was clearly written at face value. It just reeks of the writers wanting to pair Aang with Katara at the end, and throwing a rug over the blocked Chakra storyline.
@@renatad712 I'd say we're immediately told in Crossroads that's Pathik is wrong. Aang questions if he really is suppose to give up Katara and decides to leave to save her. Then in the big fight when he does do it he still doesn't properly enter a mastered avatar state (he's full glow, and compared to the survival version we see earlier unresponsive to things going on around him) and dies. Which to me seems like signals that the Chakra route is junk. As for the rock I still think the beat works, he's still connected to the other avatars (E1 Roku pops up, and then there's the lion turtle council). Aang isn't in a position that would trigger the survival avatar state until the rock moment and the lines about losing the avatar state are easily read as meaning the on demand controlled version. To Aang he can't enter the Avatar state the same way he couldn't in S2E1, the lightning/death blocked Pathik's cosmic energy method putting him back at square one. Aang doesn't have the avatar state because the (incorrect) way we/him think he can control it is blocked by the scar. In reality the state is mastered by a mastery and acceptance of yourself, which Aang does by refusing to let the avatar state kill Ozai and instead take his bending.
@@renatad712 the block in the avatar state wasn't due to Katara because Aang DOES let go of his attachment in Season 2 (why he's able to enter the avatar state before Azula kills him). The block is a physical block from Azula's strike that's unlocked when the wound is reopened. I'm not saying that has to be satisfying for you, but that's what it really is
I might disagree with some of the philosophical points at the beginning but the tweak/rewrites are incredible. Its always easier to edit something than create something new so i understand how the writers could have missed it, but i genuinely think they would be 100% on board with this if they saw it and appreciate that its an improvement. Very much in the spirit of the story. Excellent work.
What I love about this version, is that it also makes Amon's abilities in Legend of Korra more plausable and also sets up Avatar Wan having met the lion turtles in Beginnings without it feeling like a cheap retcon. With energy bending being something one can figure out, instead of being given by the lion turtles (similar to how the original benders figured bending out from the other original masters), it makes Amon's ability to remove bending more consistent with ATLA instead of having to basically retcon how blood bending works. Great video!
the only thing i disagree with you on is energy bending needing to be new. I think its fine for energy bending to be a thing the lion turtles have always done, without it needing to explicitly be a gift from the lion turtle to aand. or in the other direction, just because aang intuits how to energy bend, doesn't mean it needs to be something that has never happened before. It could perhaps even be hinted that some people already can energy bend. but due to some deep spiritual devotion, they never explicitly tell someone how. They just do their best to spread their message of connectedness and all that, and occasionally people reach "enlightnment" and are able to learn to do it themselves. But that adds a whole extra layer of foreshadowing and such that would need to happen. might overcomplicate the ending. but at the very least there's no reason energy bending would need to be wholly new, at least IMO
Energy bending can only be done by the avatar. It’s been confirmed. It is only an avatar ability. Regular people cannot do it regular benders cannot do it.
If we go with the idea that there are other energy benders out there, it could be suggested/implied that Guru Pathik is one. People always critique the ending and the Great Divide, but the one thing from ATLA that's always bugged me a little personally is who tf is Guru Pathik and where did he come from, why does he know so much about the Avatar in a world where there hasn't been one for 112 years.
@@rossjones8656while true, i don't think changing this is a good thing. You can see the bending styles as representations of the four (main) states of matter. Solid, liquid, gas and plasma. And all matter is made of energy. Energy bending being exclusive to those who unify all of these makes sense.
@@BluePhoenix_ you do realize even this can be bend into everyone else. Iroh talking about learing from all other bender style could in theory lead to such power being unlocked.
Lion-turtle WERE mentioned in Season 2 episode 10 at the 10 minute 33 seconds mark. It is portrayed as a random trivia to put aside like that one of the avatar incarnation was left-handed. and lost among all the other animal mixes.
S2E10 at 10 minutes and 33 seconds...and we see Wan-Chi Tong turn his head and tell the group of them in the library to come out of hiding... Wth are you talking about? EDIT: it's at 13 minutes and 33 seconds. Not 10 minutes and 33 seconds.
I found that, along with Buddhist mantra, there were some good parallels with Christianity when it came to what the Lion Turtle said. It was an indirect way of saying, “Be in the world, but not of it” along with other indirect lines in regards to being strong, and it wasn’t about being strong physically, “Be strong and of good courage”
@@natiprot69 the background music that plays when the lion turtle is on screen. also I do believe the fire nation soldiers actually use one when preparing to fight aang in the summer solstice episode. I think both are Chinese mantras which isn't my area of expertise since my study is more on Tibetan and Japanese buddhism so I couldn't tell you what mantras they actually are.
A tiny change to this is that I think you should also keep the lion turtle’s words in Aang’s final flashback montage, albeit the new ones you came up with
This gave me chills. Fantastic video. Your love for this story and it's themes is evident and you've done a great job in providing a much more rewarding ending to it.
While this is good, there is one thing: wouldn’t Aang creating energy bending cause a plot hole for the legend of Korra, since it was shown how the first benders came to be?
You could keep that and just say that the lion turtle knew about energy bending and its appearance was to give Aang a nudge in the right direction instead of just explaining it outright
Yall expect a 12 year old boy to kill someone, terrorist or not, and be mentally fine later on? Especially when killing goes against everything his people taught him? Y'all are crazy.
6:05 *God from the machine. This is loaned from Ancient Greek theatrical plays, where the characters who played the roles of Gods (like Zeus, Ares, Aphrodite etc) would hover above the ground, attached to a machine above the ground
Not gonna lie, I was ready to judge as this is my favourite show ever, but you have shut me up and shown me I am a closed minded fool. I agree with every point you make and you are a creative genius to come up with what you have. Incredible video ❤🫡
i've had an idea of how to fix the ending, which is essentially like yours, but even more minimalist in change. include more lion turtle forshadowing, that would definitely help. but the important part is to change the words the lion turtle says. "the true mind" line is actually pretty strong. it tells aang that if he'll stick hard enough to his beliefs, he'll see through the lies. i'd say essentially only that, maybe a bit more explicitly. the only message the lion turtle needs to give us is telling him he needs to stick to his beliefs even when they lead him to a dead end. that's it. i wouldn't even have the lion turtle say that that's when he'll find another way, no, just be a counter-voice to the avatars. and then you can have the whole fight play exactly the same, even without the lightning stuff you've added. then for the second lion turtle text, i'll essentially repeat the first message: the only way you win is by sticking to your morals. and the only change needed after that is when the two ask him how he did that, aang says that he stuck to his morals and found a way. that's it. that's not to say your version is worse. just that in actuality, very little was actually needed to fix this. the only thing the lion turtle needs to tell aang is to stick to his morals, then aang finds a way because he did. cut, print, done.
The only thing I think I would add to make this a perfect fix would be if Aand had done some introspection on the fact that Ty Les could block people’s bending and practiced a bit with that concept before learning the whole truth. It would feel like he reqlly earned the ability. He was close, but he needed the extra guidance for sake of time.
I actually love the ending, same as Twilight ending in breaking dawn (book not movie cos they added so much drama for entertainment sake n took away from the message), because so much of media is one group is stronger than the other because of love/friendship/power/whatever plot point, etc. and a generalised narrative of violence is always portrayed as good only when good people use it just cos. So this gave us a beautiful example of how violence begets violence, the best way to truly end a massive world altering war is by finding a safe and peaceful resolution. I do think it would've made more depth had be had more lore around the lionturtles, just something simple as something in the library, where we first see them deplicted, could maybe have had a little chat about "oh this says that these creatures know the secrets to bending/extinct form of bending (aka energt bending) and have some massive power that would be useful to us" "neat, we should look for them" "nope, cant, says they're extinct and that even when they werent they only presented to folk with some idealised behavioural/spiritual quality that Ange doesnt feel like he has" "well darn it, fine, lets keep looking for other solutions". Cos the lionturtules are hinted towards but not with any real lore or explanation. I love the peaceful ending, but just needed a little more lore first.
I personally think they spoke to the whole "Aangs character arch" thing in Korra. When his kids talk about him, you see he never really changed. He's set in his ways. And I think that's an amazing way to write a character that is all about freedom & individuality.
Thanks you so much. I am writting my story for an anime and I have been collecting loads of info to make it perfect and I can undoubtedly say that your video has been the most helpful for me. Thanks again.
Good luck on your story! If you haven't already checked them out, I highly recommend Hello Future Me's channel. Lots of good story writing/world building material there.
Aang controlling Ozai's energy to force his own lightning out the other hand would have been _too hype_ I woulda been like "Wait did he just... AANG YOU CAN CONTROL HIS BENDING COOK THIS MAN!!!"
I think you did as well as anyone could without pivoting entirely away from Energy Bending. But I personally still just hate energy bending on a conceptual level, and I would not be happy with any ending that made it canon or relevant. Bending in the show is almost always a 1-directional relationship between the spirit of the bender and the physical world around them. That is to say, their spirit, will, and mind all inform how and what they bend, and the bending itself is a physical manifestation of that. Energy bending reverses this, showing that the physical body of a person can invoke change in another's spirit. And that just feels wrong to me. As soon as spirituality can be affected by simple physical actions, it is no longer really spirituality, just straight up magic. And up until the finale, bending in ATLA never feels like magic. It always feels like (a fictionalized version of) martial arts, the channeling of one's spirit INTO the physical. The spiritual affecting the physical, not the other way around. So yeah, Energy Bending fundamentally sucks, and though this video shows how to make it not as bad, it still isn't ideal, imo.
That's good... I would still add some setup for the Avatar State - maybe connecting to the seeking of answers from previous Avatars and his spirit cracking under the pressure of losing the fight to establish the chakra. Maybe Ozai breaking the rock by lightning bending and having the energy of that triggering Aangs ability to enter the avatar state instead of the rock. This also would solidify the connection between lightning bending and energy bending - leading to a worldbuilding aspect like spiritual restoration as a fire-domain analog to healers from the water-domain, both being splinters of energy bending
How about connecting Ty Lee's aura-sensing and chi-blocking to it as well? Also, do you see yourself writing an Avatar fanfiction with the changes you mentioned here and others?
3:58 Thank you for articulating what I’ve felt about the ending of ATLA. Aang was uniquely qualified to end the cycle of violence. He disproved the Fire Nation’s propaganda that those with power must use it to dominate and destroy. Very good analysis overall. I wonder if some of these ideas can be inferred into the existing ending, like Aang figuring out this new way of bending on his own (with a little help from the lion turtle) because of Toph’s example. But your changes make a lot of sense.
You cannot creat a new bending type, you can only creat a new SUB bending. The 4 main bendings were given by the lion turtles, so this new one had to be given by a lion turtle as well.
This is a clever rewrite! It's a little over-reliant on flashbacks for my taste, but you're one of the first people I've heard talk about the fact that energy bending is a battle of wills. It seems like a lot of people missed that, but it really is a powerful and satisfying conclusion to Aang's character arc, your version just elevates that!
You really got me with the utilitarian argument. Glad you understand how vital it was that Aang didn't concede. I've always found this that lesson leads back to attachment. People like to say they'd be making the hard choice by killing "for the greater good" but they do not realize that doing the right thing will sometimes mean being willing let go of our attachments and risk losing.
Without a proper setup itll always feel like an asspull. There needed overt mention of energy bending and more blatant lionturtle lore. Maybe some of the spirits could give him some backstory on this stuff. Your version is still a deus ex machina . Its not a power he gains and gradually masters like you see him do with the other elements. A simpler, better solution would be him learning how to seal chakra. Chakra is something he learns about over the show. Korra even went on to toy with this concept with Amon (though theres that plot twist involved)
That would've been much better. It always vexed me how the lion turtle gets forced into the story at the last moments just to give Aang a last minute cheat code. This would've actually given us a more satisfying ending and would show his fight with Ozai's mind better. He's basically learning it on the fly, so of course it would not be perfect immediately and actually puts him at risk of being corrupted. Though he's always been able to pick up new bending styles rather quickly (except earth since it's his mental opposite thus requiring more work), holding on to his own morals and values while being the avatar throughout the story and despite his friends and past lives urging him to kill Ozai, would also foreshadow his own will being or becoming unbendable. Though why does that guy on the left 10:42 look like a pig... Edit: The memories flashing by in that last moment briefly reminding him of where he once was and everything he's learned now makes that scene perfect.
I was VERY skeptical in the beginning of this video, but damn this was perfect and genius. I would have never taught this show could get any better. Great video!
Aang and Batman's situationarent really compareable. Aang took away Ozai's bending. That's like if Batman completely lobotomised Joker instead of just putting him in Arkham.
Batman would shoot the joker if he wasnt handcuffed by the writers. He originally killed the criminals. He stopped because they didn't want to keep inventing new ones.
Your ideas could actually work in the Netflix’s Avatar. However, I disagree on the way you were wording Aang’s newfound bending as “cheats.” Yes, he has them but it’s not like he wanted to use it ASAP. He chose not to use it before and after getting his avatar state back despite almost losing. Aang was giving Ozai so many chances to surrender before taking his right to bend. That doesn’t feel like cheating to me. Anyone who watches ATLA as a kid would still be satisfied of the ending regardless if it was a deux machina moment. The only mistake in the writing I’ve notice in the show is that Katara and Sokka failing to warn the allies about Azula knowing the invasion. 1:46
Really good rewrite. I kinda like the idea of Aang being dissappointed as its wisdom throws the question back at him, and saying something like "I haven't decided yet... but I definitely can't let Ozai hurt anyone else." Which at the time makes you think he's going to kill him and maybe Aang even thinks he will but later he decides otherwise when Ozai is at his mercy, leading to the energy bending. Its a fun fake out
i understand the sentiment here, but i kind of disagree with youre interpretation of the dragon turtle. i see it as more of a plot device to separate the group than any deus ex machina. all bending is energy bending, and the dragon turtle just contextualizes this to aang after he spent the rest of the episode asking other figures, some of which we also were hearing about for the first time, were telling him the same thing he has been hearing from his friends, the exact thing he knew he didnt need to hear. I think the dragon turtles do represent something close to what "God" represents in the avatar universe, but not in a cheap way, in the sort of grounded, introspective, "where does life and energy come from to begin with" way.
Hear me out: The Lion Turtles shouldve been the divine creatures of legend that no one knows about, foreshadowed via backgrounds. the lion turtles gave chi to humans, who then learned from sky bison, badger moles, dragons, and the moon spirit how to bend the elements. the humans went to war with the lion turtles seeking power. before dying of injury, the last lion turtle taught the last of the pro-lion turtle monks how to chi bend (which is a better name then energy bending, imo) and gave him his spirit, which made him become the first avatar. after the death of the first avatar, chi bending became a lost art. when aang leaves, he finds the skeleton of the last lion turtle in the ocean, which has become a floating island. being there awakens an energy within him and opens up an inner spectral realm, and allows him to speak with the spirit of the lion turtle himself. In this realm, Aang is not the avatar. It is Aang and the spirit of the last lion turtle, the 2 parts of the one whole known as "The Avatar". this lion turtle teaches aang chi bending, just as he taught the first avatar. Chi bending allows Aang to bend the chi within someone. We see aang come up with an idea, but he doesnt say it and we dont know what it is. Then, in his fight with Ozai, Aang traps Ozai like he did before and gives his speech in his air ball. He lands, LEAVES THE AVATAR STATE, and puts his fingers to Ozais forehead with a confident look. Aang removes the chi from Ozai, removing the ability to bend in the process. So sure Aang doesn't invent chi bending here, but he does become the first human to ever take away someone's bending. and he does it as aang, not the avatar.
The confident look is the only thing I have a problem with. Even with the encounter of the original show, he was still unsure. I think it should be more subtle and unclear, sort of like the original speech. The lion turtle skeleton is such a cool idea tho, I have no idea why no one thought of it before
No, Aang killing Ozai doesn't do anything to endorse Ozai or prove his way of looking at the world. Aang *IS* the world. That's supposed to be what the Avatar is: the living embodiment of the world's will. The world believes in pacifism, but it also believes in self defense and preservation. Aang makes it clear that he's still a child and doesn't understand air nation ideals nor pacifism. Pacifism does *not* mean that you never fight: it means that you don't seek out or instigate a fight, and even if you're in a fight then you do whatever you can to get out of it before finally resorting to violence. Aang *did* try everything he could to stop Ozai outside of fighting back. I trust Yangchen, someone who lived a centuries long life as an avatar and airbender, over Aang who only had about 12 years of living with those ideas. The airbenders defended themselves against the fire nation when they came to slaughter them, it's extremely clear that they were fine with the idea of fighting to defend themselves and others. And if that still isn't enough for you, then look to Buddhist monks who are what the airbenders are modeled after. They are some of the most dangerous and deadly fighters in history because they got tired of being assaulted and robbed on the road while they were traveling. They learned martial arts to *defend* themselves. Aang absolutely was supposed to learnt he lesson that his duty as the avatar takes precedence over his desires as an Airbender. His ideals still live on, after all it isn't Aang killing Ozai it's the avatar killing Ozai. The *only* way that energybending works is if they started teasing the *ability* itself in season 2 and then had Aang working to master it throughout.
Sup B- good vid! I know this is kinda late but man i was thinking like in your last video you talked about game sonic imagine if you did a video showing Archie sonic and testing how far could he go that would be fire
Katara did not owe that guy forgiveness nor did she need to try to forgive him for her sake. he took pleasure in her mothers death. Katara had every right to be angry.
Forgiveness is for yourself. If someone wrongs you, holding onto your hatred and anger only hurts *you* more. Forgiveness is letting go of a bad person’s influence on you. Its freeing.
That’s kinda weak. Forgiveness or not, having your loved one killed is grief that will stick with you for life. Forgiving a murderer wouldn’t bring you solace.
Ffs forgiveness is not something to be deserved or not, it also not requires to be buddies with her murderer. Yes she had every right to be angry, but what she did is essentialy repressed her emotions and let him live. She still was angry and hateful at him so forgiveness is about letting your hatred go. You don't forget, you don't reconciliate, you simply free yourself from your negative emotions inside you that destroy you ,not the killer. As hard as it might seem, maybe katara should have try to forgive him.
@@dawidfigas11 Is that forgiveness or simply moving on? To move on Katara needed closure and for that she needed to confront Yon Rha. For the record I'm glad that neither Aang nor Katara ended up a killer.
@meganmccarthy2974 well forgiveness is also moving on but the diffrence is that katara accepted. Forgiveness is elite form of acception because it requires you also to let all your hatred and resenment go, if katara forgave yon rha she wouldn't be still angry about her situation afterwards. She moved on but she still feels anger understandably so. Forgiveness is harder tho more efficient in healing process because you don't have to battle your negative thoughts anymore
Well, Great Divide, while not really great for the story as a whole, does showcase a way in which Aang learns to lead. Sometimes, a white lie is necessary to settle a pointless dispute that will never end. If Aang couldn’t even settle this small and useless dispute, how would he ever begin his journey to save the world? Especially the aftermath, when brawn isn’t everything. As for the Lion Turtle stuff, hell yes. They only ever mention Lion Turtles once, and barely anyone would have noticed. When the Lion Turtle first appeared, I had absolutely no idea what it was or where it came from. Like, why was it there? Was it waiting for Aang? Why did he get hypnotized into swimming to that turtle? It was all a bit too confusing. If they also mentioned that these lion turtles are sensitive to spiritual energy and can sense imbalances, and noticed Aang’s imbalance with the Avatar State, that would have been perfect. Even better? If Guru Pathik met them before, and actually asked the Turtles to help Aang after he left suddenly from his training. It could be a scenario where Pathik, someone who shouldn’t even be alive after so many years since he knew Gyatso, had escaped the attack from the Fire Nation, fleeing into hiding. However, Pathik, a non-bender but tied to the air nomads, got discovered and was attacked. If Pathik took a raft to sea to escape, it could be that he was discovered in the ocean, attacked by a Fire Nation ship, but the Lion Turtle appeared. The turtle, noticing the imbalance of the elements due to so many deaths, arrived to check out the situation. After determining the cause, the Turtle discovers a lone survivor, Pathik, being attacked. The Lion Turtle sinks the ship as a small retaliation against such a terrible act, and the rescued Pathik thanks the Turtle. Pathik becomes the first to train under the Lion Turtle, becoming far more spiritually inclined than before. His constitution is raised, allowing him to live longer than most, and the Lion Turtle could even tell the Guru that his duty can be to help guide the Avatar in the future, as the Turtle senses the Avatar is not yet dead. It would round out Guru Pathik’s lore, and perfectly acknowledge the existence of the Lion Turtle. But Holy shit. I didn’t think it would have been possible to create an even better ending, but if there ever was one, it was this.
I love this version so much omg. If i had the time I'd edit/animate (I'm an animator) this new finale as best I could (although wouldn't be able to include new voice lines obviously)
I like how Aang doesn’t lose himself to his duty or title. He is still able to be his authentic self and be Aang and doesn’t have to throw that important part of him away in order to meet a standard or certain expectation of him by outside forces and people. And he also still lives up to his duty at the end, by still being true to himself when everyone was telling him he couldn’t. He wasn’t corrupted into thinking he had to be different in order to fit a certain role or title thrusts upon him. It’s beautiful honestly.
Saying they exist and the ability to permanently remove bending are not the same. Had it have been mentioned that Lion Turtles are masters of bending in ways that not even the greatest Avatars are then that would be different. Additionally had we seen the Lion Turtle explain this new method of bending and why this is the original source of bending this would be different.
"What's that?" "A white cat" "Meh" Later "I am the sacred white cat and I can give you the ultimate power to end this journey and defeat the final boss" Do you get why the Lion Turtle is a problem now?
That’s something I would leave open-ended for ATLA but definitely touch on in Korra. I think one of the weaknesses of Korra is how it demystified bending, so I wouldn’t want energy bending to become super commonplace.
“Anyone who thinks Aang should have killed Ozai is agreeing with Ozai.” Would that actually be such a bad thing, though? Obviously Ozai is the worse kind of pure evil ever. I’m not saying he was justified in anything he ever did. That said, I tend to find villains more interesting when they have a point. Not necessarily the “Thanos was right” treatment, but having at least one thing someone can point to and say “well, he was right about that much of it” makes everything they were wrong about carry that much more weight. The fight can play out the way it did, up to the point where Ozai strikes at Aang while he has his back turned, but then have Aang say something like “I won fair and square. I tried to save your life. I don’t want to kill you, just stand down and accept defeat!” Ozai rejects the idea, saying something along the lines of “the strong deserve to rule. If you aren’t strong enough to claim what you want then you’re not strong enough to have it.” And maybe throw in a reference to how the world always bends to the Avatar’s will because of how powerful they are. Then maybe Aang, with sadness in his voice, says “No. The Avatar uses their strength to protect the weak from people like you.” To be clear, I like your idea. I think it’s a cool way to go about the energybending thing. I just don’t think that killing Ozai necessarily means agreeing with his entire worldview. In my view, it more so just means accepting that sometimes, there’s not a good solution, and you occasionally have to choose the best choice from a list of bad options.
what helped me understood energy bending is OSP's "the last of their kind" video by red. the "how" aang defeated ozai, and i mean the PHYSICAL how, isn't what was important. rather, it was the PHILOSOPHICAL "how" he would defeat ozai with his no killing policy conflicting with his avatar duties, as pretty much everyone said he had to kill ozai. so, energy bending is just the physical how, but again it's not the important part. the important part is aang proving he can be both aang the last airbender *and* the avatar, i.e proving the philosophical issue was a false dilemma "in the ultimate moral victory of the show, aang proves he can be both" -red
Killing Ozai would not only have been too easy, but highly less satisfying. It takes a harsher toll, a greater will, and a higher moral compass to be able to spare the life of someone so ruthless and purely evil. Even after he lost his bending, he tries to even turn his son who he banished for simply talking over the general and told him he’d never welcome him back, against the world to continue the fire nations reign. The set up for future story telling would have been lacking. However the underlying resentment from Zuko would have been an interesting twist.
One thing I will say after rewatching the show is that there are multiple mentions of lion turtles and there’s statues of them, which I didn’t realise the first time around, so I guess they did foreshadow them a lil bit
Definitely an improvement but still a bit of an ass pull. honestly i think it would be better if the entire concept of energy bending was just scrapped and they just put Ozai in a North Pole prison.
I would add Aang inventing one new technique per element under training conditions and attempting to use them in combat. He could have modicums of success as his journey progressed. The new techniques would develop over time and culminate in the final battle. We know Aang invents the air scooter. This trend could continue and it would be very believable that he invented/ discovered energy bending.
I think you are mistaken when you say Aang defeated Ozai with Energy bending. Aang defeated and subdued Ozai with the 4 elements and only then did he neuter Ozai with energy bending.
The comments are teaching me that, yes, there actually are a bunch of people who believe forcing a 13-year-old to abandon his principles and murder someone would have been a more satisfying way to end this children's cartoon. Wild.
It would’ve been equally compelling but would’ve been infinitely more pessimistic lol.
It would've been tragic but it would also be consistent withthe foreshadowing they've shown so far. Your version fixes it really well!
I think for the sake of it being a children's cartoon, energy bending was necessary, since it has to remain PG, but I think that if the story didn't have to worry about that, then the better ending would have been Aang having to kill Ozai and learning that not every conflict can be resolved peacefully - that there are some people who cannot be reasoned with.
I think that showing that every set of principles and beliefs has flaws and exceptions is a very human and realistic message, even if it not the one you want to hear.
Nitpik: Ozai was trying to kill Aang in the fight, so at that point it would have been self defense, not murder. Killing to stop someone from killing others also is not legally or culturally considered murder in most nations.
Betrayal of Aang's principles: yes
Murder: Not quite
people don't realize how much bleaker the story would be if Aang killed Ozai. Would people feel the same way if Zuko had to kill Azula?
I think they could have just slowly built on the lionturtle lore from the scroll from the Library episode. I think if Aang actively went on a quest to find it instead of being passive, it would feel more satisfying.
Agree, it's kinda unfortunate that the first mention of him is basically a joke.
Piando also mentions them, but he makes it sound as if they're just another hybrid animal rather than something special, and it feels weird that Piando knows about them and have statues of them, while Roku and the other avatars don't.
@@MegaspinosaurusrexHow do we know that the other avatars don’t?
Agreed. I think it would make more sense if Aang took the action himself to seek out the lion turtle after consulting with the past Avatars. Then his disappearance from the others would seem less like a mystery for them to solve and more like them assuming Aang is running away from his responsibilities again.
@@samasthtcI think he’s referring to how when Aang is on the lion turtle, Roku doesn’t know where he is. But I don’t actually think that means the other avatars don’t know about lion turtles, just that when you see a forest, you don’t assume it’s in the back of a giant creature
Ehhh still, it still completely bypasses the whole internal conflict aang has been experiencing for pretty much the entirety of season 3. Its not JUST the lion turtle, its throwing away potential character development
Bro, if Aang wanted to kill Ozai, it would be the quickest fight. He just had to redirect the lightning at the start back at Ozai and that would be it.
Ngl tgat would be funny.
Aang redirects the lightning straight back at the fatherloed, he is dead, aang leaves the avatar state and goes
- so is that it?
@PineappleDealer37 he redirected the lightning before he even entered the Avatar state.
@c.w.k.n.5117 ah right, that's even funnier lol.
Guess that's it. He dead. *Leaves*
wait, what if ozai ends up catching the lightning and they play lightning redirection ping pong?
What if Ozai just simply dodged the redirection and never shot lightning at Aang again? If Azula did it in the comics then Ozai is more than capable of doing it here.
They did bring up the lion turtle in the library in a throw away line
Aang: "hey look at this weird lion turtle thing!"
Sokka: "ehh I've seen weirder."
I would like to know where Sokka has seen weirder
Yeah but by that sense, they could have just switched the lion turtle with the cabbage man and nothing would have changed, as the cabbage man has also appeared in the show before!
@@NobleGuy-cf6ut Now I wish it was cabbage man who taught aang energy bending
I believe that's not the only time either. xD
Caught it on my second watch
This actually fixes the only mistake in an already perfect show, actually made me emotional. Great job
Thank you!
@@BWHERE This does fix some minor issues with ATLA, but only raises more things that need adjustment in LOK. Primarily if the lion turtles never energy bent: taking and giving the elements to humans, how would Wan have ever become the first Avatar? also please don't attack me for mentioning LOK, lol
@@BindingBenderI think it would be simple enough to leave it as the Lion Turtles bestowing the ability to bend in general to humans. (If Aang uses it to take away bending, logically it can be used to grant it as well.) But then, instead of going from Lion Turtle to Lion Turtle, the Avatar Wan story should go on to show Wan seeking out and learning from the Original Benders: the Sky Bison, Dragons, Badger Moles, and the Ocean and Moon (maybe even in Koi fish form since it's stated in ATLA that they transitioned to the human realm in ancient times). Only after encountering each of them should he then meet Raava, who he aids in battle against Vaatu using the elements as well as energy bending, fusing with Raava in the process.
@@BindingBenderim fine with things needing to be changed in LOK to make sense because lets be honest, LOK was far worse in worldbuilding then atla and ruined multyple concepts atla introduced
@@thomicrisler9855 Apologies for the delayed response, but I respect this adjustment, though if I'm being honest I'm fairly happy with ATLA and LOK, but I fear for upcoming show
I love seeing someone actually look at avatar in a constructive manner as the finale always gave me this empty feeling when I finished it that I couldn’t figure out why
i guess it’s something people were waiting for for years so the expectations were very high. albeit still a great finale and i loved it but maybe some expectations people had were unrealistic
@@LeonardEngels but I think his fix is much worse than the original.
To me, it was as simple as briefly expand the discussion on The Library episode, and have them read on an inscription stating that these beings are said to be better bendings than the greatest avatars known. I believe that it didn't really needed to be stated too much, it feels mystical this way. I'd always seen a spirit like the Lion Turtle almost like a demigod. Also, some people say it appeared from nowhere, but Aang had been meditating a lot seeking for spiritual help. Your solution of having Aang figuring it out himself is great, though. Great video.
I like that, more mystical, like a demigod - that fits!
I've seen this show, from start to finish, at least 10 times by now. This is the first take I've heard of changes in its story that are in the spirit of the story. I really like it. I would like to add a few more instances of set-up to this.
The first - Bloodbending should be another clue for Aang. There should be a line, when they're discussing how to defeat the fire lord, when Zuko mentions Bloodbending as a possible solution and Katara stops him and says that it she doesn't ever want to feel that way again. Aang asks what way? She says 'like she's holding their body hostage from their spirit which she can feel is trying to resist' or something like that.
The second - Right from the point he starts getting anxious about the invasion and his fight with the firelord he should begin having strange dreams about the ocean, and often times just look towards the coast suddenly as if he felt like something is watching him. There's a lot of scenes in the fire nation where they are near a coast so there are a lot of opportunities to foreshadow.
The third- During his training with the Guru, when they are discussing the Third Eye chakra and dispelling the illusion of separation, there should be a more obvious line but said in the joking mannerisms of the Guru. When they talk about how all the nations are actually one, he should say something along the lines of 'just the nations?' and Aang can say 'what do you mean' and he can be the first one to drop this idea into Aang's head that maybe the illusion of separation goes beyond just how we see people but also to how we see the elements that make up the world and you can leave the scene with Aang thoughtfully pondering that before going on to the next chakra.
All very good ideas! I particularly like the foreboding shots of the ocean during book 3, it would really add to the spooky vibe of the season.
TLDR at the end.
I love that this revision wouldn’t be hard to implement, and that all the bending styles could still have originally been learned by observing and practicing techniques taught by specific creatures rather than gifted by the lion turtles. (Fire/Dragons, Earth/Badger Moles, Air/Sky Bison, Water/Moon & Ocean spirits.)
It opens up the possibility of other creatures, beings or even concepts possibly teaching humanity new; bending styles, techniques, life lessons, ways to influence ourselves and the world around us.
The Lion Turtles inclusion into the story then becomes an introduction in learning a brand new bending style, essentially spirit bending. All of the foreshadowing suggested if done with this goal in mind would have subtle taught Aang this bending style thru the entire series. It’s only fitting then for the Avatar to be the first to learn this style and make use of it. However all the records and mentions of the lion turtle prior to meeting one could have shown attempts of previous masters and scholars to learn from the creature.
(Communicating with and influencing the decisions of others would be the basics of the bending styles and temporally controlling or permanently altering another would be the more advanced techniques. Keeping in mind the fact that spiritual beings literally inhabit and influence parts of the Avatar world it only makes sense that eventually a bending style specifically for interacting with them would develop eventually)
In the Final scenes of the battle I’d make it Aangs internal struggle learning how to properly use the more advanced methods of this new bending style. I’d also add copt out a line that explains why no one else was able to learn this style before Aang. Something along the lines of “To bend another’s spirit mine must be as light and free as air, able to push and pull with the purity of water, my own resolve as direct and unyielding as earth, as full of life and permanently altering as fire.”
Then in Kora the Rava backstory could be changed such that the first Avatar also learned spirit bending from the lion turtles. Unlike the other nations and bending styles he was alone and came across Rava and her battle before he could teach any other people the bending style. After bonding with Rava they decided to keep it secret so there wouldn’t ever be a dark avatar.
Then in Koras day the birth of the new nation of republic city also has the plot of people wanting to come and learn this new bending style from Aang who was more concerned with first re-establishing the air nation but taught some spirit bending too but no-one really picked it up and as technology was being developed and revolutionized most people just turned to that as part of their cultural identity.
These changes would give Koras villains more consistency with the in universe lore. (Much like lightning bending is a water bending technique incorporated into the fire bending style: Amon using water bending with a spirit bending technique to mimic blood bending or at least pretending it’s blood bending when he is doing some minor spirit bending, Unalaq using spirit bending to bond with Vaatu as the first Avatar feared someone would, Zaheer applying a spirit bending technique to his air bending to actually give himself flight, and Kuviras conflict also better incorporating the conflict between spirit and technology)
TLDR: Basically I think if this proposed change was implemented as a new bending style into the AtlA universe it would solve the continuity problems in both series, and introduce another element for the writers to incorporate more life lessons into as this is meant as a story to help children understand and make good choices in our complex society.
@@toad6284 Yeah, I never liked the Rava backstory with Lion Turtles teaching bending when Toph clearly learned through the Badgers rather than a Lion Turtle. And proposing spirit bending would kind of still fit with the Greek philosophy of the elements, namely aether(?) I think. Or it had a different name, essentially what the stars and celestial bodies consisted of.
@@Captain_MelonLord The lion turtles didn't teach bending though, they simply bestowed the power to bend upon those who couldn't, humans. When talking about Avatar Juan, it's never stated that the Lion Turtles teach you how to use the power, only that they gave the power to wield it, and that Juan learned how to properly bend fire from the dragons before going to the different turtles to get their elements bestowed to him
@@pancakewaffles I admit I prolly misunderstood the backstory then. It's been a while since I watched it (most obviously because I referred to the first avatar as Rava in my first comment, oops) and that explanation makes more sense.
this is my favorite re-write. The minimal changes are way better than trying to re-do everything
Agreed, I actually don't even think Energy Bending has to be invented by Aang... It can just be him reinventing it. It's still a result of his own intuition and ingenuity, but afterward they discover it is an ancient technique that can tie him to his ancestors and heritage; something that was lost that he resurrected.
@@EmethMatthew Yeah, just that little extra buildup, and Aang still being the one to make the solution goes a long way
I think this is by far the worst re-write that you could do to the problem. It changes Aang into a reckless Gary Stue who goes unprepared into the fight and just hoeps for a stroke of genius in the last second, which of course then comes. Isn't that how Rey operates? Isn't that equally a deus ex machina moment because the solution appears suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere and exactly when needed?
I actually have an idea for a different rewrite: the lion turtle is the animal guide of a previous Avatar, a much more ancient one, who teaches him chi-blocking.
Aang isn't brought to some random cliff, but to a temple where he can meditate. When he is touched by the lion turtle, he sees the memories and contacts the avatar, a much more ancient one, who is the creator of chi-blocking. There is no giving or taking bending powers, just blocking them, but by combining the four elements in one's body into pure energy, the chi can be blocked permanently.
When he takes Ozais powers and rejoins the crew, the conversation goes a bit different.
Aang: "I took away his powerbending."
Toph: "Wow, how did you do THAT?"
Aang: "I blocked his chi."
Sokka: "Like Tai Lee?"
Aang: "Well, not exactly. With the power of all the elements I can close them completely. I hope it works, I'm not completely sure what I did there."
And at the end in Irohs tee shop there's a scene outside where Aang trains with Tai Lee, or even with all the Kyoshi warriors.
It could be interesting because it would imply that Tai Lee is a descendant from an ancient fighting group that helped the Avatar, similar to the white lotus. And the Kyoshi warriors are gonna close the loop.
Alternatively the lion turtle could bring him to a descendant of the fire avatar before Roku who lives in a traveling circus that just passed the sea from the fire nation to the earth kingdom. Because fire already is energy, so fire bending is energy bending, that's how both he and Tai Lee know how to do it, they know the energy flows of the human body in and out.
Someone has to animate this ending, this is insane! Or somehow share it with the ATLA team and see what they think of it cuz this is epic!
Thank you!
@@BWHERE Like bruh If Avatar Kyoshi was still alive and kicking I definitely think she would literally kill him Freeze his internal organs
YES!!! 😮 Yes yes yes yes! I've always seen the finale like Aang choosing at the finish line to be Aang instead of the Avatar, stopping just short of truly accepting his calling and thus failing his growing arc. This solution resolves that wonderfully, by allowing Aang to defeat Ozai as only Aang the full-blown Avatar can.
Honestly, I'm perfectly okay with the Lion Turtle only being foreshadowed that one time in the library episode. As long as, like you describe, the principles that make energy-bending work are presented and emphasized.
This is a genius way to resolve it. Thank you so much! 🎉
Edit: Also, if the show overtly connected Tai Lee's chi-blocking to entering the Avatar state, then that (mostly) solves that one major contrivance. We just need Sokka to throw out "maybe let us hit you hard in the back" on down time to brainstorm solutions for Aang. The team could ignore the idea, dismiss the idea, or even say it's theoretically potentially possible but not worth trying, and boom. Now we know why the rock works.
Great idea about Sokka! It would be both funny AND exciting when it happens
19:20 one thing I would change about the flashbacks here is that they should pile up the negative memories first while Ozai's darkness encroaches and then at the last second with Aangs tiny light everything goes quiet and the camera is shaky. Then Aang remembers that the lion turtle told him that the lion turtle told him he sensed his anguish and to weather the lies (according to your change). This will make Aang remember all the bad memories he already remembered but he will also remember the gaang enduring them together and this will let Aang finally learn energy bending by being an unwavering light in a world of darkness.
One huge flaw with your argument...how do you think all those fire benders on the Air Temples died? Yes, the Air Nomads were pacifists, but not to the extreme that you're suggesting they were. Saying that anybody who thinks Aang should have killed Ozai is agreeing with Ozai is just a fundamental misunderstanding of the Air Nomads and what information the series presented us about them. They went down fighting
Edit: clarity
We only have confirmation that Monk Gyatso killed any fire benders, and he was always shown to be more of a pragmatist. He was the one who wanted to break tradition and allow Aang to grow up as a normal boy instead of being raised as the avatar. The other air nomads were massacred without any resistance. Aang even confirms that they have no formal military. Besides, one single Airbender, refusing to uphold the morals of his people is far less consequential when he was still one of many. Aang is literally the entire nation of Air Nomads in one boy, he represents the people alone.
@@BWHERE Only the monk that was closest to Aang and his direct mentor and father figure?
That one?
"Air nomad genocide" means litterly destroying not only their people, but also their culture and their places. So if the fire nation is forcing them to act against their culture, it isn't what air nomads believed. Actually from what air nomads believed we know only from aang that is the last one of their kind.
Even if they did go down fighting, it was because they were attacked. Aang is on the offensive here, which is a major difference.
@@MJ-98 he's being shot lighting at
Great video. I generally like the idea of improving the introduction of energy bending.
My original thought was to detach it from the lion turtle completely but keep it as a "surprise power up" that is unlocked by truely representing all 4 elements in harmony: steadfast conviction in your own beliefs (earth), evading ideas you recognise as harmful (air), embracing change where it's appropriate/important (water) and maybe most importantly: having an appreciation for the flame of life.
I like your idea as well, tho.
Thanks! I tied it into air and earth there at the end but that’s an awesome point about the other two elements!
Yeah I agree 100% Aang shouldn’t have killed Ozai but energy bending should have been his technique with only a little help of the lion turtle, great video keep it up ❤
Thank you!
Yes! This is what I always say, killing Ozai would be the death of Aang’s culture. Aang peacefully defeating Ozai was him claiming a small shred of victory and survival for his people
This is a great list of changes, Ill be referring back to this whenever I think about this issue with the finale, it’s got my full support
Thank you!
Honestly, I think the answer was right there. He should've just banished him to the spirit world, where he'd have no bending. There were already a bunch of instances where his spiritual attunement is shown, and how he travels between spaces. We also know spirits can, and constantly do, steal people away into the spirit realm. Body and all. We see it, at least, with the spirit of the forest and with the face stealer.
There's literally nothing they needed to change anywhere else. Just fight, he goes avatar mode, has a few flashbacks of his interactions with spirits and what they've done, decides not to kill him, incapacitates him, and does his avatar spirit magic to phase him into the spirit world. They show how he can't bend anymore, and how he'll now have to deal with being powerless (literally same punishment, but it makes sense).
I seriously can't fathom how such genius writers couldn't come up with that solution, cliché as it may be.
That would have been badass. Sending Ozai to the Shadow Realm, a place worse than death.
So he would still be free in the spirit world, or he'd be in the spirit world and imprisoned ontop of that like Vatuu?
@@GhostEmblem Vaatu didn't exist yet in Avatar's mythos, so yeah he'd probably just let Ozai free in the spirit world as there is virtually no damage he could do from that space & may even have the possibility for personal change.
This would've also set up the possibility of Korra meeting Ozai when she went into the spirit world in season 2. She already met Iroh there, implying that he's either dead or people going to the spirit world don't age, making it logical why Ozai is still there as well. Iroh being there also felt somewhat random imo (like they included him just for the fan service and to have some wise character to tell Korra what to do next), but Ozai being there would then at least actually make sense. I'll leave up for interpretation how an interaction between Korra and Ozai would play out, but it would've definitely been interesting. It could even set up an old villain as a new (and much greater) threat if he discovered Vaatu instead of Unalaq for example.
Idk that kinda Just feels like killing him without saying it, "i didn't kill him, i Just sent him to a place only spirits and dead things go, and he can't come back"
Genuinely interesting concepts of how to change the finale! I loved it!!
Thank you!
I would cut out the lion turtles and have Aang learn Chi Blocking, and he does some advanced level chi blocking combined with avatar state maybe, to take away his bending. It's already been established it can temporally take away bending, so this makes perfect sense!
This is very similar to what they did with blood bending in Korra, permanent chi blocking. I think this could theoretically work for the finale but Aang would need to have trained in it for at least a season leading up to the fight.
all he needs is basic chi blocking, then he can restrain him
Aang killing Ozai would be a second death of his people, because he, willingly, would be abandoning their teachings and ways. In a certain way, it would be to bring to completion what Ozai and his forefathers intendend to.
I agree, the Lion Turtle should be more present than one minor segment in the Library, something that important can't fly over the heads and come back at the final season as if it was "foreshadowed" it's not, they didn't even mentioned how especial it was, they treat it like a random animal and it was a mysthical creature at the end. This needed more time, more hints, one single scene it's not enough.
The lion turtle didn’t give him the ability, it showed him. His connection to the spirit world and ability to quickly learn bending style allowed him to do it. It wasn’t just dropped in his lap
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Love this video but hard disagree here. I think Katara not forgiving him is one of the most mature and overlooked parts of the show. It’s refreshing to see a piece of media for young audiences be nuanced about forgiveness vs. acceptance.
Choosing to move on and not perpetuate the cycle of violence is a valuable lesson. Revenge is often hallow and isn’t the path to happiness and inner peace. Katara was right not to take the violent path.
Forgiveness is an entirely different story. Forgiveness is earned, and not owed. What steps did Yon Rha take to earn Katara’s forgiveness? Do we even know he’s truly sorry? He only apologized under the threat of death and there’s no indication of remorse before that point. He even selfishly offered his mother’s life in place of his own. He destroyed her family and her childhood and he’s never shown regret for that.
The show is not saying forgiveness is useless. Katara DOES forgive Zuko. That’s because he’s earned it. He’s shown remorse and earned her trust. There’s a difference between these two characters.
I also love that the show doesn’t judge whether her decision not to forgive is right or wrong. It’s just the path she’s chosen.
I believe you are conflating forgiveness and absolution. Forgiveness is to let go of hatred and malice, to release the hold someone else has on your heart. You can forgive someone while also cutting them out of your life. Absolution is to say that they are no longer culpable, or don't deserve to be treated differently anymore. Katara should NOT absolve Yon Rha because of his foolishness and insincere apology - but she should forgive him, so the anger doesn't burn a hole in her heart. Forgiveness is for yourself, absolution is for the person who wronged you.
I don't know about OP, but I don't think Katara should have forgiven him even by your definition of foregiveness. Hate and anger are very useful emotions in small doses: they teach you to protect yourself and others from similar situations, and they spark righteousness. Lots of activists who ever fought for a better place did so because they hated how unfair things were, and they were angry at the people letting things be unfair.
So yeah, Katara should definitely hate the soldier who burned her mom alive (headcanon) for the rest of her life if she so wishes, and I don't think this hate would decrease her life quality in any way, as long as it doesn't become an obsession. On the contrary, I think it will motivate her to continue fighting for justice. Not saying that she would no longer fight for justice the second she would hypothetically forgive him, just that she chose not to and that's perfectly valid. Just like Aang choosing to forgive is also valid.
No, that is very unhealthy. Choosing not to forgive, choosing to hold on to hatred, it only hurts yourself. www.apa.org/monitor/2017/01/ce-corner www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/in-depth/forgiveness/art-20047692
Just taking a slightly unpopular view, but it seems like in this version that energy bending in this form is a rediscovered ancient technique, rather than a brand new one like you’re describing, because if we tie in the Legend of Korra into this series, it all evens out, even with these changes.
I initially wasn't a fan of the changes, but when you got to the end you sold me. I do think more foreshadowing could be used, but I really like how you tied in the spirit water into energy bending. Maybe it could also tie in with lightning redirection, since it's manipulating the energy within you, and there should be more focus besides some comments in passing since we already had one that was barely noticeable until you look back from the end.
I could go for that version; honestly, tho, the whole "blocked chakra, then unblocked by a random rock" thing bugged me WAY more than the lion turtle ever did.
saaaame, it throws all of Guru Pathik's teachings in the trash, together with the katara vs the world dilema. What was the point of season 2 finale if a rock solves everything in the end?
I think the rock is misread by a lot of people. To me Aang functionally died for that segement of the fight. Through out the show Aang is shown to enter the 'survival'/'triggered' avatar state by a constant glow of his eyes and tattoos. Other avatars (like Kyoshi in Avatar Day, and the ones shown in the convo with Roku in The Avatar State) have a momentary flash in and then perform their action.
When Aang got hit by the rock 'survival' avatar took over his body, confirmed by the fact that when Ozai is about to be executed it's the other avatars talking as one. (I don't remember it exactly but the closed captioning even explictly says something similiar for the lines)
At the last moment Aang comes back and regains control of his body, does the energy bending, and puts out the fires with the "quick flash" avatar state we saw other avatars do. Aang didn't master or control the avatar state until that final moment after bending his own energy to defeat Ozai which if you think Pathik is right, would be the moment the Chakra was unlocked.
(I counter that like Yang Chen Pathik is wrong in thinking being the avatar is about sacrificing to become a vessel for power)
@@jacobmerrill693 that's a solid analysis but it doesn't change that the plot beats go like this: aang could not get into the avatar state, then got hit by a rock, then he could get into the avatar state. This chain of events is some of the poorest writing in the show imo. And sure, maybe Guru Pathik was wrong or lying about earthly attachments, but this would be a cheap retcon because the Guru episode was clearly written at face value. It just reeks of the writers wanting to pair Aang with Katara at the end, and throwing a rug over the blocked Chakra storyline.
@@renatad712 I'd say we're immediately told in Crossroads that's Pathik is wrong. Aang questions if he really is suppose to give up Katara and decides to leave to save her. Then in the big fight when he does do it he still doesn't properly enter a mastered avatar state (he's full glow, and compared to the survival version we see earlier unresponsive to things going on around him) and dies. Which to me seems like signals that the Chakra route is junk.
As for the rock I still think the beat works, he's still connected to the other avatars (E1 Roku pops up, and then there's the lion turtle council). Aang isn't in a position that would trigger the survival avatar state until the rock moment and the lines about losing the avatar state are easily read as meaning the on demand controlled version. To Aang he can't enter the Avatar state the same way he couldn't in S2E1, the lightning/death blocked Pathik's cosmic energy method putting him back at square one.
Aang doesn't have the avatar state because the (incorrect) way we/him think he can control it is blocked by the scar. In reality the state is mastered by a mastery and acceptance of yourself, which Aang does by refusing to let the avatar state kill Ozai and instead take his bending.
@@renatad712 the block in the avatar state wasn't due to Katara because Aang DOES let go of his attachment in Season 2 (why he's able to enter the avatar state before Azula kills him). The block is a physical block from Azula's strike that's unlocked when the wound is reopened. I'm not saying that has to be satisfying for you, but that's what it really is
I might disagree with some of the philosophical points at the beginning but the tweak/rewrites are incredible.
Its always easier to edit something than create something new so i understand how the writers could have missed it, but i genuinely think they would be 100% on board with this if they saw it and appreciate that its an improvement.
Very much in the spirit of the story. Excellent work.
I appreciate that, thank you!
What I love about this version, is that it also makes Amon's abilities in Legend of Korra more plausable and also sets up Avatar Wan having met the lion turtles in Beginnings without it feeling like a cheap retcon. With energy bending being something one can figure out, instead of being given by the lion turtles (similar to how the original benders figured bending out from the other original masters), it makes Amon's ability to remove bending more consistent with ATLA instead of having to basically retcon how blood bending works. Great video!
the only thing i disagree with you on is energy bending needing to be new. I think its fine for energy bending to be a thing the lion turtles have always done, without it needing to explicitly be a gift from the lion turtle to aand. or in the other direction, just because aang intuits how to energy bend, doesn't mean it needs to be something that has never happened before.
It could perhaps even be hinted that some people already can energy bend. but due to some deep spiritual devotion, they never explicitly tell someone how. They just do their best to spread their message of connectedness and all that, and occasionally people reach "enlightnment" and are able to learn to do it themselves. But that adds a whole extra layer of foreshadowing and such that would need to happen. might overcomplicate the ending.
but at the very least there's no reason energy bending would need to be wholly new, at least IMO
Energy bending can only be done by the avatar. It’s been confirmed. It is only an avatar ability. Regular people cannot do it regular benders cannot do it.
@@sarickacampbell2642 we are also talking about a re-write here.
If we go with the idea that there are other energy benders out there, it could be suggested/implied that Guru Pathik is one. People always critique the ending and the Great Divide, but the one thing from ATLA that's always bugged me a little personally is who tf is Guru Pathik and where did he come from, why does he know so much about the Avatar in a world where there hasn't been one for 112 years.
@@rossjones8656while true, i don't think changing this is a good thing.
You can see the bending styles as representations of the four (main) states of matter. Solid, liquid, gas and plasma.
And all matter is made of energy. Energy bending being exclusive to those who unify all of these makes sense.
@@BluePhoenix_ you do realize even this can be bend into everyone else. Iroh talking about learing from all other bender style could in theory lead to such power being unlocked.
Lion-turtle WERE mentioned in Season 2 episode 10 at the 10 minute 33 seconds mark. It is portrayed as a random trivia to put aside like that one of the avatar incarnation was left-handed. and lost among all the other animal mixes.
S2E10 at 10 minutes and 33 seconds...and we see Wan-Chi Tong turn his head and tell the group of them in the library to come out of hiding...
Wth are you talking about?
EDIT: it's at 13 minutes and 33 seconds. Not 10 minutes and 33 seconds.
I found that, along with Buddhist mantra, there were some good parallels with Christianity when it came to what the Lion Turtle said.
It was an indirect way of saying, “Be in the world, but not of it” along with other indirect lines in regards to being strong, and it wasn’t about being strong physically, “Be strong and of good courage”
is there a buddhist mantra in the show? Care to share which one?
@@natiprot69 the background music that plays when the lion turtle is on screen. also I do believe the fire nation soldiers actually use one when preparing to fight aang in the summer solstice episode. I think both are Chinese mantras which isn't my area of expertise since my study is more on Tibetan and Japanese buddhism so I couldn't tell you what mantras they actually are.
A tiny change to this is that I think you should also keep the lion turtle’s words in Aang’s final flashback montage, albeit the new ones you came up with
5:05 hell no
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This gave me chills. Fantastic video. Your love for this story and it's themes is evident and you've done a great job in providing a much more rewarding ending to it.
Thank you! 🙏
While this is good, there is one thing: wouldn’t Aang creating energy bending cause a plot hole for the legend of Korra, since it was shown how the first benders came to be?
You could keep that and just say that the lion turtle knew about energy bending and its appearance was to give Aang a nudge in the right direction instead of just explaining it outright
Wow. You do it better than I expected at start. This will be my new lore of atla in my head. You truly love atla through and through❤
Yall expect a 12 year old boy to kill someone, terrorist or not, and be mentally fine later on? Especially when killing goes against everything his people taught him? Y'all are crazy.
“Stay frosty.”
Flameo, my good hotman
6:05 *God from the machine. This is loaned from Ancient Greek theatrical plays, where the characters who played the roles of Gods (like Zeus, Ares, Aphrodite etc) would hover above the ground, attached to a machine above the ground
Wow, I actually felt goosebumps as I was listening to how you would have done the ending. Great video. ❤
Glad you liked it!
Not gonna lie, I was ready to judge as this is my favourite show ever, but you have shut me up and shown me I am a closed minded fool. I agree with every point you make and you are a creative genius to come up with what you have. Incredible video ❤🫡
Thank you so much!
i've had an idea of how to fix the ending, which is essentially like yours, but even more minimalist in change.
include more lion turtle forshadowing, that would definitely help. but the important part is to change the words the lion turtle says.
"the true mind" line is actually pretty strong. it tells aang that if he'll stick hard enough to his beliefs, he'll see through the lies. i'd say essentially only that, maybe a bit more explicitly.
the only message the lion turtle needs to give us is telling him he needs to stick to his beliefs even when they lead him to a dead end. that's it. i wouldn't even have the lion turtle say that that's when he'll find another way, no, just be a counter-voice to the avatars.
and then you can have the whole fight play exactly the same, even without the lightning stuff you've added. then for the second lion turtle text, i'll essentially repeat the first message: the only way you win is by sticking to your morals.
and the only change needed after that is when the two ask him how he did that, aang says that he stuck to his morals and found a way.
that's it.
that's not to say your version is worse. just that in actuality, very little was actually needed to fix this. the only thing the lion turtle needs to tell aang is to stick to his morals, then aang finds a way because he did. cut, print, done.
Okay, I actually really like this new version.
The only thing I think I would add to make this a perfect fix would be if Aand had done some introspection on the fact that Ty Les could block people’s bending and practiced a bit with that concept before learning the whole truth. It would feel like he reqlly earned the ability. He was close, but he needed the extra guidance for sake of time.
I actually love the ending, same as Twilight ending in breaking dawn (book not movie cos they added so much drama for entertainment sake n took away from the message), because so much of media is one group is stronger than the other because of love/friendship/power/whatever plot point, etc. and a generalised narrative of violence is always portrayed as good only when good people use it just cos.
So this gave us a beautiful example of how violence begets violence, the best way to truly end a massive world altering war is by finding a safe and peaceful resolution. I do think it would've made more depth had be had more lore around the lionturtles, just something simple as something in the library, where we first see them deplicted, could maybe have had a little chat about "oh this says that these creatures know the secrets to bending/extinct form of bending (aka energt bending) and have some massive power that would be useful to us" "neat, we should look for them" "nope, cant, says they're extinct and that even when they werent they only presented to folk with some idealised behavioural/spiritual quality that Ange doesnt feel like he has" "well darn it, fine, lets keep looking for other solutions".
Cos the lionturtules are hinted towards but not with any real lore or explanation.
I love the peaceful ending, but just needed a little more lore first.
I personally think they spoke to the whole "Aangs character arch" thing in Korra. When his kids talk about him, you see he never really changed. He's set in his ways. And I think that's an amazing way to write a character that is all about freedom & individuality.
Thanks you so much. I am writting my story for an anime and I have been collecting loads of info to make it perfect and I can undoubtedly say that your video has been the most helpful for me.
Thanks again.
Thanks for watching!
Good luck on your story! If you haven't already checked them out, I highly recommend Hello Future Me's channel. Lots of good story writing/world building material there.
@@thomicrisler9855 thanks I will surely check them out.
Damn, that section where the Lion Turtle speaks to Aang through the will of his energy!? Chef’s Kiss. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Aang controlling Ozai's energy to force his own lightning out the other hand would have been _too hype_
I woulda been like "Wait did he just... AANG YOU CAN CONTROL HIS BENDING COOK THIS MAN!!!"
I want Ozai written better. I wanna know what happens in his messed up head. I wanna know why is it so messed up.
I really like your version of the ending! Glad to see you bring the proper respect for the source material too, well done!
I think you did as well as anyone could without pivoting entirely away from Energy Bending. But I personally still just hate energy bending on a conceptual level, and I would not be happy with any ending that made it canon or relevant.
Bending in the show is almost always a 1-directional relationship between the spirit of the bender and the physical world around them. That is to say, their spirit, will, and mind all inform how and what they bend, and the bending itself is a physical manifestation of that. Energy bending reverses this, showing that the physical body of a person can invoke change in another's spirit. And that just feels wrong to me. As soon as spirituality can be affected by simple physical actions, it is no longer really spirituality, just straight up magic. And up until the finale, bending in ATLA never feels like magic. It always feels like (a fictionalized version of) martial arts, the channeling of one's spirit INTO the physical. The spiritual affecting the physical, not the other way around.
So yeah, Energy Bending fundamentally sucks, and though this video shows how to make it not as bad, it still isn't ideal, imo.
That's good... I would still add some setup for the Avatar State - maybe connecting to the seeking of answers from previous Avatars and his spirit cracking under the pressure of losing the fight to establish the chakra. Maybe Ozai breaking the rock by lightning bending and having the energy of that triggering Aangs ability to enter the avatar state instead of the rock. This also would solidify the connection between lightning bending and energy bending - leading to a worldbuilding aspect like spiritual restoration as a fire-domain analog to healers from the water-domain, both being splinters of energy bending
How about connecting Ty Lee's aura-sensing and chi-blocking to it as well?
Also, do you see yourself writing an Avatar fanfiction with the changes you mentioned here and others?
3:58 Thank you for articulating what I’ve felt about the ending of ATLA. Aang was uniquely qualified to end the cycle of violence. He disproved the Fire Nation’s propaganda that those with power must use it to dominate and destroy.
Very good analysis overall. I wonder if some of these ideas can be inferred into the existing ending, like Aang figuring out this new way of bending on his own (with a little help from the lion turtle) because of Toph’s example. But your changes make a lot of sense.
You cannot creat a new bending type, you can only creat a new SUB bending. The 4 main bendings were given by the lion turtles, so this new one had to be given by a lion turtle as well.
This is a clever rewrite! It's a little over-reliant on flashbacks for my taste, but you're one of the first people I've heard talk about the fact that energy bending is a battle of wills. It seems like a lot of people missed that, but it really is a powerful and satisfying conclusion to Aang's character arc, your version just elevates that!
You really got me with the utilitarian argument. Glad you understand how vital it was that Aang didn't concede.
I've always found this that lesson leads back to attachment. People like to say they'd be making the hard choice by killing "for the greater good" but they do not realize that doing the right thing will sometimes mean being willing let go of our attachments and risk losing.
Without a proper setup itll always feel like an asspull. There needed overt mention of energy bending and more blatant lionturtle lore. Maybe some of the spirits could give him some backstory on this stuff.
Your version is still a deus ex machina . Its not a power he gains and gradually masters like you see him do with the other elements.
A simpler, better solution would be him learning how to seal chakra. Chakra is something he learns about over the show. Korra even went on to toy with this concept with Amon (though theres that plot twist involved)
This is aboslute gold!!!! Such an ending would make soooo much sense ! Thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it!
That would've been much better. It always vexed me how the lion turtle gets forced into the story at the last moments just to give Aang a last minute cheat code. This would've actually given us a more satisfying ending and would show his fight with Ozai's mind better. He's basically learning it on the fly, so of course it would not be perfect immediately and actually puts him at risk of being corrupted. Though he's always been able to pick up new bending styles rather quickly (except earth since it's his mental opposite thus requiring more work), holding on to his own morals and values while being the avatar throughout the story and despite his friends and past lives urging him to kill Ozai, would also foreshadow his own will being or becoming unbendable.
Though why does that guy on the left 10:42 look like a pig...
Edit: The memories flashing by in that last moment briefly reminding him of where he once was and everything he's learned now makes that scene perfect.
I was VERY skeptical in the beginning of this video, but damn this was perfect and genius. I would have never taught this show could get any better.
Great video!
I love this version. I always had an issue with the ending and you fixed it perfectly. Headcanoned.
Aang and Batman's situationarent really compareable. Aang took away Ozai's bending. That's like if Batman completely lobotomised Joker instead of just putting him in Arkham.
Avatar studios should definitely hire you as a writer
Dream job honestly
@@BWHERE Let's just hope that, somehow, they see this.
i love aang. dude did not want to sacrifice his morals. we need more of this type of influence
Batman would shoot the joker if he wasnt handcuffed by the writers.
He originally killed the criminals.
He stopped because they didn't want to keep inventing new ones.
What if they are trying to say that there's always another way. Killing can't be your last option.
Your ideas could actually work in the Netflix’s Avatar. However, I disagree on the way you were wording Aang’s newfound bending as “cheats.” Yes, he has them but it’s not like he wanted to use it ASAP. He chose not to use it before and after getting his avatar state back despite almost losing. Aang was giving Ozai so many chances to surrender before taking his right to bend. That doesn’t feel like cheating to me.
Anyone who watches ATLA as a kid would still be satisfied of the ending regardless if it was a deux machina moment. The only mistake in the writing I’ve notice in the show is that Katara and Sokka failing to warn the allies about Azula knowing the invasion. 1:46
This is the only good take I've heard. Love how you fixed it!
Dude.
Okay for real, I was fine with the OG ending until now. This would have been awesome. I teared up a little.
Thank you!
This is such a good improvement of the finale, it really encapsulates the spirit of the show
Really good rewrite. I kinda like the idea of Aang being dissappointed as its wisdom throws the question back at him, and saying something like "I haven't decided yet... but I definitely can't let Ozai hurt anyone else." Which at the time makes you think he's going to kill him and maybe Aang even thinks he will but later he decides otherwise when Ozai is at his mercy, leading to the energy bending. Its a fun fake out
i understand the sentiment here, but i kind of disagree with youre interpretation of the dragon turtle. i see it as more of a plot device to separate the group than any deus ex machina. all bending is energy bending, and the dragon turtle just contextualizes this to aang after he spent the rest of the episode asking other figures, some of which we also were hearing about for the first time, were telling him the same thing he has been hearing from his friends, the exact thing he knew he didnt need to hear. I think the dragon turtles do represent something close to what "God" represents in the avatar universe, but not in a cheap way, in the sort of grounded, introspective, "where does life and energy come from to begin with" way.
Hear me out: The Lion Turtles shouldve been the divine creatures of legend that no one knows about, foreshadowed via backgrounds. the lion turtles gave chi to humans, who then learned from sky bison, badger moles, dragons, and the moon spirit how to bend the elements. the humans went to war with the lion turtles seeking power. before dying of injury, the last lion turtle taught the last of the pro-lion turtle monks how to chi bend (which is a better name then energy bending, imo) and gave him his spirit, which made him become the first avatar. after the death of the first avatar, chi bending became a lost art. when aang leaves, he finds the skeleton of the last lion turtle in the ocean, which has become a floating island. being there awakens an energy within him and opens up an inner spectral realm, and allows him to speak with the spirit of the lion turtle himself. In this realm, Aang is not the avatar. It is Aang and the spirit of the last lion turtle, the 2 parts of the one whole known as "The Avatar". this lion turtle teaches aang chi bending, just as he taught the first avatar. Chi bending allows Aang to bend the chi within someone. We see aang come up with an idea, but he doesnt say it and we dont know what it is.
Then, in his fight with Ozai, Aang traps Ozai like he did before and gives his speech in his air ball. He lands, LEAVES THE AVATAR STATE, and puts his fingers to Ozais forehead with a confident look. Aang removes the chi from Ozai, removing the ability to bend in the process. So sure Aang doesn't invent chi bending here, but he does become the first human to ever take away someone's bending. and he does it as aang, not the avatar.
The confident look is the only thing I have a problem with. Even with the encounter of the original show, he was still unsure. I think it should be more subtle and unclear, sort of like the original speech. The lion turtle skeleton is such a cool idea tho, I have no idea why no one thought of it before
No, Aang killing Ozai doesn't do anything to endorse Ozai or prove his way of looking at the world. Aang *IS* the world. That's supposed to be what the Avatar is: the living embodiment of the world's will. The world believes in pacifism, but it also believes in self defense and preservation.
Aang makes it clear that he's still a child and doesn't understand air nation ideals nor pacifism. Pacifism does *not* mean that you never fight: it means that you don't seek out or instigate a fight, and even if you're in a fight then you do whatever you can to get out of it before finally resorting to violence. Aang *did* try everything he could to stop Ozai outside of fighting back. I trust Yangchen, someone who lived a centuries long life as an avatar and airbender, over Aang who only had about 12 years of living with those ideas.
The airbenders defended themselves against the fire nation when they came to slaughter them, it's extremely clear that they were fine with the idea of fighting to defend themselves and others. And if that still isn't enough for you, then look to Buddhist monks who are what the airbenders are modeled after. They are some of the most dangerous and deadly fighters in history because they got tired of being assaulted and robbed on the road while they were traveling. They learned martial arts to *defend* themselves.
Aang absolutely was supposed to learnt he lesson that his duty as the avatar takes precedence over his desires as an Airbender. His ideals still live on, after all it isn't Aang killing Ozai it's the avatar killing Ozai.
The *only* way that energybending works is if they started teasing the *ability* itself in season 2 and then had Aang working to master it throughout.
Sup B- good vid! I know this is kinda late but man i was thinking like in your last video you talked about game sonic imagine if you did a video showing Archie sonic and testing how far could he go that would be fire
Surprised this doesn’t have more views. Phenomenal video essay
Thank you!
Calling that a deus ex machina is just a bad call. We always knew Aang didnt have a blood thirst. Great ending.
Katara did not owe that guy forgiveness nor did she need to try to forgive him for her sake. he took pleasure in her mothers death. Katara had every right to be angry.
Forgiveness is for yourself. If someone wrongs you, holding onto your hatred and anger only hurts *you* more. Forgiveness is letting go of a bad person’s influence on you. Its freeing.
That’s kinda weak. Forgiveness or not, having your loved one killed is grief that will stick with you for life. Forgiving a murderer wouldn’t bring you solace.
Ffs forgiveness is not something to be deserved or not, it also not requires to be buddies with her murderer. Yes she had every right to be angry, but what she did is essentialy repressed her emotions and let him live. She still was angry and hateful at him so forgiveness is about letting your hatred go. You don't forget, you don't reconciliate, you simply free yourself from your negative emotions inside you that destroy you ,not the killer. As hard as it might seem, maybe katara should have try to forgive him.
@@dawidfigas11 Is that forgiveness or simply moving on? To move on Katara needed closure and for that she needed to confront Yon Rha. For the record I'm glad that neither Aang nor Katara ended up a killer.
@meganmccarthy2974 well forgiveness is also moving on but the diffrence is that katara accepted. Forgiveness is elite form of acception because it requires you also to let all your hatred and resenment go, if katara forgave yon rha she wouldn't be still angry about her situation afterwards. She moved on but she still feels anger understandably so. Forgiveness is harder tho more efficient in healing process because you don't have to battle your negative thoughts anymore
The third path is always the most difficult. Not choosing that third path, is actually the cop out. Killing is easy
Well, Great Divide, while not really great for the story as a whole, does showcase a way in which Aang learns to lead. Sometimes, a white lie is necessary to settle a pointless dispute that will never end.
If Aang couldn’t even settle this small and useless dispute, how would he ever begin his journey to save the world?
Especially the aftermath, when brawn isn’t everything.
As for the Lion Turtle stuff, hell yes. They only ever mention Lion Turtles once, and barely anyone would have noticed. When the Lion Turtle first appeared, I had absolutely no idea what it was or where it came from. Like, why was it there? Was it waiting for Aang? Why did he get hypnotized into swimming to that turtle? It was all a bit too confusing.
If they also mentioned that these lion turtles are sensitive to spiritual energy and can sense imbalances, and noticed Aang’s imbalance with the Avatar State, that would have been perfect. Even better? If Guru Pathik met them before, and actually asked the Turtles to help Aang after he left suddenly from his training.
It could be a scenario where Pathik, someone who shouldn’t even be alive after so many years since he knew Gyatso, had escaped the attack from the Fire Nation, fleeing into hiding. However, Pathik, a non-bender but tied to the air nomads, got discovered and was attacked. If Pathik took a raft to sea to escape, it could be that he was discovered in the ocean, attacked by a Fire Nation ship, but the Lion Turtle appeared. The turtle, noticing the imbalance of the elements due to so many deaths, arrived to check out the situation. After determining the cause, the Turtle discovers a lone survivor, Pathik, being attacked. The Lion Turtle sinks the ship as a small retaliation against such a terrible act, and the rescued Pathik thanks the Turtle. Pathik becomes the first to train under the Lion Turtle, becoming far more spiritually inclined than before. His constitution is raised, allowing him to live longer than most, and the Lion Turtle could even tell the Guru that his duty can be to help guide the Avatar in the future, as the Turtle senses the Avatar is not yet dead.
It would round out Guru Pathik’s lore, and perfectly acknowledge the existence of the Lion Turtle.
But Holy shit. I didn’t think it would have been possible to create an even better ending, but if there ever was one, it was this.
I hope the live action does something like this
I love this version so much omg. If i had the time I'd edit/animate (I'm an animator) this new finale as best I could (although wouldn't be able to include new voice lines obviously)
these are really good tweaks, subtle but impactful at the same time
I like how Aang doesn’t lose himself to his duty or title. He is still able to be his authentic self and be Aang and doesn’t have to throw that important part of him away in order to meet a standard or certain expectation of him by outside forces and people. And he also still lives up to his duty at the end, by still being true to himself when everyone was telling him he couldn’t. He wasn’t corrupted into thinking he had to be different in order to fit a certain role or title thrusts upon him. It’s beautiful honestly.
Lion turtles' existence is mentioned in the Library episode, so it is not that much of a "deux ex machina." It is so brief but important.
Saying they exist and the ability to permanently remove bending are not the same. Had it have been mentioned that Lion Turtles are masters of bending in ways that not even the greatest Avatars are then that would be different. Additionally had we seen the Lion Turtle explain this new method of bending and why this is the original source of bending this would be different.
Lion turtle was about as important as the cabbage man 😂 I mean I love the show, but come on!
"What's that?"
"A white cat"
"Meh"
Later
"I am the sacred white cat and I can give you the ultimate power to end this journey and defeat the final boss"
Do you get why the Lion Turtle is a problem now?
You are a clown
There is a martial art in this world that make you lose your bending. Ty Lee. Why not let Aang learn that upgrade it to more permanent solution?
Would such a discovery of energy bending allow Ang to grant bending like how the lion turtles used to?
That’s something I would leave open-ended for ATLA but definitely touch on in Korra. I think one of the weaknesses of Korra is how it demystified bending, so I wouldn’t want energy bending to become super commonplace.
My lazy ahh solution? Get frozen again but bring Ozai along.
10000 IQ move
“Anyone who thinks Aang should have killed Ozai is agreeing with Ozai.”
Would that actually be such a bad thing, though? Obviously Ozai is the worse kind of pure evil ever. I’m not saying he was justified in anything he ever did. That said, I tend to find villains more interesting when they have a point. Not necessarily the “Thanos was right” treatment, but having at least one thing someone can point to and say “well, he was right about that much of it” makes everything they were wrong about carry that much more weight.
The fight can play out the way it did, up to the point where Ozai strikes at Aang while he has his back turned, but then have Aang say something like “I won fair and square. I tried to save your life. I don’t want to kill you, just stand down and accept defeat!”
Ozai rejects the idea, saying something along the lines of “the strong deserve to rule. If you aren’t strong enough to claim what you want then you’re not strong enough to have it.” And maybe throw in a reference to how the world always bends to the Avatar’s will because of how powerful they are.
Then maybe Aang, with sadness in his voice, says “No. The Avatar uses their strength to protect the weak from people like you.”
To be clear, I like your idea. I think it’s a cool way to go about the energybending thing. I just don’t think that killing Ozai necessarily means agreeing with his entire worldview. In my view, it more so just means accepting that sometimes, there’s not a good solution, and you occasionally have to choose the best choice from a list of bad options.
what helped me understood energy bending is OSP's "the last of their kind" video by red. the "how" aang defeated ozai, and i mean the PHYSICAL how, isn't what was important. rather, it was the PHILOSOPHICAL "how" he would defeat ozai with his no killing policy conflicting with his avatar duties, as pretty much everyone said he had to kill ozai. so, energy bending is just the physical how, but again it's not the important part. the important part is aang proving he can be both aang the last airbender *and* the avatar, i.e proving the philosophical issue was a false dilemma
"in the ultimate moral victory of the show, aang proves he can be both" -red
Killing Ozai would not only have been too easy, but highly less satisfying. It takes a harsher toll, a greater will, and a higher moral compass to be able to spare the life of someone so ruthless and purely evil. Even after he lost his bending, he tries to even turn his son who he banished for simply talking over the general and told him he’d never welcome him back, against the world to continue the fire nations reign. The set up for future story telling would have been lacking. However the underlying resentment from Zuko would have been an interesting twist.
Aang wasnt willing to let go of katara for cosmic energy? 8:43
Not at first. He did let go in the crystal catacombs right before Azula shot him with lightning.
@@BWHERE"I'm sorry, Katara" [spins up a protective crystal teepee]
One thing I will say after rewatching the show is that there are multiple mentions of lion turtles and there’s statues of them, which I didn’t realise the first time around, so I guess they did foreshadow them a lil bit
Definitely an improvement but still a bit of an ass pull. honestly i think it would be better if the entire concept of energy bending was just scrapped and they just put Ozai in a North Pole prison.
I will be annoyed that it didn’t actually end like this whenever I rewatch the show.
Sorry!
I would add Aang inventing one new technique per element under training conditions and attempting to use them in combat. He could have modicums of success as his journey progressed. The new techniques would develop over time and culminate in the final battle. We know Aang invents the air scooter. This trend could continue and it would be very believable that he invented/ discovered energy bending.
I think you are mistaken when you say Aang defeated Ozai with Energy bending. Aang defeated and subdued Ozai with the 4 elements and only then did he neuter Ozai with energy bending.
Aang killing Ozai would have been the true death of the Air Nomads and their ideals.