I never liked the idea of Sam and Freddie breaking up, it felt like the only purpose of the breakup is so that the show can feature Carly and Freddie going back together and having an opportunity to be able to like each other again. But there is no purpose to why the couple broke up. Many couples are in the same circumstance and situation like Sam and Freddie, the important part is if they love each other or not, and is the 2 actually is right to date, couples fight all the time. So the breakup felt forced in so many ways. Way to go, Nickelodeon.
I’m happy that jennett had the choice to chose if she wanted to be in the reboot and I’m fine with her not being in it but like ruining seddie doesn’t make sense
Sorry to burst that bubble of yours but false, with or without the reboot or Jennette resigning or not, Sam and Freddie were never going to be end-game. There's proof, the actors and producers had leaked it years ago that Creddie was the plan.
@@merman_laozu7781 Neither made sense in the original because Carly was too Shallow, Sam was too Violent and Freddie was too obsessive with certain things. In the revival how ever, Carly has grown to be less shallow and Freddie after going through two divorces has grown up to be less obsessive, making them a much more compatible pairing. It would be a fun story line of how Sam has grown up but considering according to the story she joined a Biker gang to follow her bliss it would mean she is still a free spirit which is actually one aspect of Sam that I wish wouldn't change which would be really incompatible with Freddie's current character.
Man, their breakup was so forced, you can see that the only reason why it happens it's because the writers needed the show to go back to the status quo
No, the relationship was forced, you should hear Janette talk about their first kissing scene in her book. Dan just kept making her redo it demanding “more head movement” and he got all mad when producers told him that they had to move on if they were going to finish filming that day. He enjoyed making her uncomfortable it's why he wrote the relationship into the show in the first place.
@@joshz2491ok but seddie has nothing to do with jennettes experience on icarly, stop trying to use jennettes trauma on the show as an excuse to make seddie a bad ship. although the relationship wasn’t planned out well, they always had chemistry throughout the show
@@srrenityy8083 Regardless of Jennette McCurdy coming back or not, Freddie was always meant for Carly, the actors have confirmed this severally. Sam and Freddie had no chemistry worth being in a relationship.. and on the other hand, Freddie had so much chemistry and compatibility with Carly. Nathan admitted seddie turned out so horrible when they got the chance to date and were just never going to work
@@moiii_01 freddie was never meant for carly. i can tell u clearly didn’t do ur research right bc nathan has said that although seddie wasn’t a good couple, creddie wasn’t all that either and he said that he liked freddie being with none of them and being with another girl that treats him better. seddie def had undeniable chemistry in their relationship, and it was always pointed out. they both had mutual love for eachother, and although the actors may not agree, the characters beg to differ.
@@srrenityy8083 go and search Nathan's interview in 2015😌then remember to laugh at your own self for being so confident in your presumptions🤣🤣🤣... Seddie had chemistry of a younger sister that bullies her brother, yeah that was for sure😆 and admitted when they forced romance out of it, was so weird and wrong, good thing Freddie woke up from that toxicity and never returned.
@@flomillishit8348 Yes, it is. They never stopped loving each other, it's sweet and heartbreaking and the reboot makes no sense in any way. Watch the video, and you hopefully will understand.
I’m a little late to this. But they were each other’s first loves so they will always care in some way for each other even if they don’t end up together.
knowing these two, they never got closure and i know freddie is still in love with her so tell me how the reboot makes any sense at all!!! why isn't he looking for her!!!
i always supported seddie no matter what. the reason i didnt choose carly was because she didnt like the 'obsessive' freddie at first ( i mean thats okay) but then liked him when she thought he was a hero. on top of that, even if she DIDNT like freddie and knew freddie liked her, she didnt want freddie to like someone else too, meaning that she knew she always had freddie wrapped around her finger. i feel seddie was a fiesty, chemistry-loaded relationship because they have been real best friends before that and it was fiery. i dont think that in the reboot they should have completely ruined seddie even if jennette didnt join because in the last episode of sam and cat, sam asks freddie out, so everyone assumes seddie to be the endgame. seddie forever
I haven’t really watched a reboot yet so I don’t know if the chemistry has changed but on the original series Sam and Freddie always had way more chemistry than Carly and Freddie Carly and Freddie never felt romantic they always felt like bffs Sam and Freddie had more passion even when they argue lol
Here is the thing passion is highly overrated and it fades. If you look at Carly and Freddie, really look at them in the original. Carly is just not consciously aware of her feelings for for Freddie. That's why his saving her life is so important because it makes her consciously aware that he is not just her best friend. The problem is that Sam manipulates Freddie into breaking up with Carly and leaves the two of them stuck hovering in this weird grey area. Freddie dates Sam sure but they have no personal intimacy, no patience and no communication, in fact, the only thing that they agree on is that they should break up. The rest of the time they are dysfunctional at best and toxic at worst and Carly is stuck playing therapist. Some couples with opposing personalities work but Freddie and Sam would rather be right than happy and because of that they would never work long-term. Carly and Freddie work because they can just be together, romantic or not and they sacrifice for and stand up for each other. The only pressure in their relationship comes from other people telling them how they should feel and its why Carly in particular does not act on her feelings unless she is alone with Freddie, like their dance at groovy smoothy which is full of physical intimacy. I’m rewatching the original series and she might not act on her feelings much but Freddie is definitely more than a friend.
@@joshz2491 the truth is, I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying Carly and Freddie are definitely way more compatible in real life but here’s the thing this is a TV show and for for a TV pairing seddie is more compelling to watch In my opinion,their dynamic was better They had more chemistry and kept you more invested Freddie chasing after Carly who is the original series never liked Freddie That way got old very quickly and they did not have enough chemistry to keep me shipping the entire series but that’s just my opinion
Ugh, they’re only pushing Creddie together in the reboot for fan service / because they’re the only two true main characters we all know and love from the original… such a shame. All that Seddie potential is wasted, as if none of it existed and as if Carly didn’t think her friends were cute together and didn’t actually go to hookup with other guys 🤦🏻♀️ To clarify, I’ve only seen clips of the reboot and have not actually watched it, I kind of refuse to because of all the Creddie junk, and I know Jennette McCurdy has her reasons for not appearing in the show, but I kind of wish it was just implied that Freddie was with Sam and has been with Sam since the Sam & Cat episode… but alas, relationship drama sells.
@@flomillishit8348 What the actress says isn't canon. And even if it would be canon that Carly likes him, he doesn't like her in that way. And he never did. A crush and real love is something different. He had a crush on her as a little boy which often happens with little boys and beautiful girls they know. As he grew older, he realised it and loved her as a friend. Other thing is, she even abused him, kind of, she used his crush on her so he does anything for her. Nothing against Carly, many people do that, but it's still not nice. But he realised it like every little boy does and understand what love means. Carly is even the one why he and Sam broke up. She said they didn't had a good relationship and they took it seriously. Yes, they fighted a lot, but that's normal, especially when you're a teenager and a person like Sam. But with time, it will get better. But they took her "advise" and broke up, altough they still love each other so much. And then.. They took their time, like I said. And when they met again, in L.A., they made up a date. He loves Sam and that never stopped and the reboot destroys all that, it makes no sense. Creddie fans are ridiculous, sorry. I'm so sure they would have made more Seddie content, but Jennette isn't an actress anymore and that's completely fine, she has valid reasons. But then I wouldn't make a reboot, the second main character isn't there, it's ridiculous. I would just leave it to the fans. Seddie is endgame and always was. It's such a unique couple.
I still think Sam was Freddie's first wife. Like maybe they married in Vegas and divorced right after they realized what happened...but either way, I will die on that hill.
That was always my thought too. Like after Sam answered Cat, she asked him out, I just thought maybe Sam was the first wife before Gwen. It would make sense timeline wise; In theory, anyway. (Lol) 😎
@@geraldinep.3287I don’t really think that theory works, Sam moved to LA and Freddie was all the way in Seattle. I highly doubt that would’ve worked, that just doesn’t seem like a likely option. Sorry if that sounded rude, I was just simply making a statement.
@@geraldinep.3287 Oh I know, the only reason I said that was because I felt like everyone was taking it way too seriously. But like you said everyone is entitled to their opinion ☺️❤️
They are MY endgame I don't care what happens in the reboot, it might be sweet, they might have worked it well, but Seddie will be forever endgame for me and that's why I'm writing my own version making them be healthier and having actual character development :)
I love this ship so much, I think I'm gonna write a song about it. It's gonna be from Sam's perspective and I already have some lyrics. Including this one which I'm very proud: "But I love you, I always have. You can see it in my eyes if you look past the darkness and look past the lies"
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
@@amarylily Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
@@BABS_SEED Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
There was a huge waste of potential from Sam and Freddie's couple, because of that enemies to lovers vibe, but their relationship was terribly executed, so was Sam's behavior forcing "comedy" through violence and toxicity as a friend and girlfriend. Fanfics did a beautiful work playing Seddie couple, even the Creddie one more than the show (now the reboot) could ever do. I was always a Seddie fan and I know it was endgame, at least, for the original creator of iCarly (the you know who). For their own reasons they decided to air a reboot no one asked for and the worst, without Jennette (the most important character we would have loved to watch un-censored in dialogue) I think, with her the show would be a trillion times more succesful xd However, if you are having fun watching the reboot and it has been a gift for your inner child, good for you. More than all, if you are a Creddie fan since the beggining. I just wanted to express how upset all of this got me in this unfortunate adult life 😂
Nathan kress had confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
I appreciate this comment because it doesn’t just see things so much in a black-and-white narrative. I used to rant about this ship being “abusive,” which some could understandably see as such, but I’m trying not to judge too much with real-life standards. I agree with you that Seddie was good potential but horribly executed. They had similar toxic backgrounds, and they had massive character development. When they weren’t fighting (and by “fighting” it’s really Sam tormenting Freddie 96% of the time), they had some wholesome bonding moments, like playing meatball golf. I think the dynamic would’ve been much improved if Freddie also fought Sam more often (he slapped her back one time, and that was nice). Sam overall was a pretty tricky character to handle, and I have complicated views about her. She was very hilarious, but sometimes she takes it too far and it just comes off annoying. She’s a character whom I love and hate at the same time. Though these days I’m not so interested in ragging on Sam as much as I want to uplift Freddie, who I believe is massively underrated and reminds me of those spicy Disney Channel white guys with his charisma. And yeah, Jenette is a wonderful person who deserved better than what she’s been through. As much as we missed her as Sam, we should respect her decision and support her by other means.
I honestly have up on the reboot . I will not be finishing s2. I’m not really into icarly as much as I used to but seeing these clips reminded me about how much I love it. 😭I miss the OG show
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again. The revival series has turned out to be better and more wholesomely humane than the original ever was
@@jiaralenas Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
I haven't watched the reboot specifically because she wasn't in it she was my favorite part of the original show. I hope everyone who ever did that amazing strong woman wrong get what they deserve.
although im not the die-hard seddie shipper i was in the golden icarly days, i still have a soft spot for them since they were my first real ship. you cant tell me that theyre not going down the creddie route bc of nostalgia purposes and fan service as well as the chemistry miranda and nathan now have which was pretty much non existent in the og show. i havent actually watched the reboot but it seems heavily reliant on nostalgia and cameos in order to draw in any real interest.
Why are there so many of you who keep saying "I haven't watched the show at all but from these certain out of context clips I have seen I think this and that are the problem with it" and I'm not just talking about ICarly. There are too many people who want to criticize something that they themselves state they have never experienced.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
@@TDCamper22 funny thing is Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
I understand why some of you are upset about the creddie when seddie was your favorite. But if Sam was on the show, you know she would be so happy for Carly and Freddie.
The truth is we don't know what would happen if Sam was in the show. There's no more reason to think Sam and Freddie would end up together than Freddie and Carly ending up together. Creddie being canon in the reboot is completely arbitrary
@@lo.miller7297 ehm, you're wrong. Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@dragonpaulz_ Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
So they shouldn’t have done the reboot without Jennette? Unfortunately she had a lot of terrible experiences on the show. Which are completely valid reasons why she didn’t want to come back to the show, and I’m sure they are completely capable of doing the show without her. Fuller House did a whole 5 seasons without the Olsen Twins who played Michelle. Not everyone needs to be in the reboot for it to work.
@@merman_laozu7781 But obviously it’s necessary for the other actors, not everyone from the show wants to make an appearance. Jennette is not going to risk her mental health for a show, I think the reboot is fine with just Carly, Freddie, and Spencer.
@@merman_laozu7781 The reboot is fantastic, answers a lot of query's we had on the original show (like what happened to Carly's mother), and is actually something Jennette doesn't mind as she he adores the other actors on the cast and knows how much this show means to them. No show in the history is necessary, even the original wasn't necessary but when the cast have a genuinely good idea for a show in which they have poured so much love and Passion into it is a wonderful thing to have.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@batmanrocks6727 Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Since Jennette M. isn't likely to return to the role, the only way Seddie will be endgame is if they recast, which is even *less* likely. Or in fanfic.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@aliyahhussain4553 Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@flomillishit8348 Dude, are you commenting on everything to spread your fucking opinion everywhere? We don’t care if you ship Creddie, even if it doesn't make sense, but stop harrasing us with it. We don’t care and do our stuff, you don’t care and do your stuff. Stop offending others. I already explained everything on another comment, kiddo.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
No Seddie in iCarly made me decide to never watch the reboot. Don't get me wrong, Creddie was also in the original version and I'm fine with that ship. I just wish this ended with Seddie. But go Jennette for doing what was best for her.
As a former shipper, imo Seddie was nice potential, but poorly executed, both the build-up and arc itself. I think Freddie genuinely loved and cared about Sam, but not so much the other way around. Considering how she tormented him before they dated, it would’ve been nice to see Freddie hit her at times, or at least pull a Josh is Done moment when he found out she messed up his application (Even under a pro-Seddie stance there isn’t much worth defending; I don’t get why he forgave her). If Sam truly loved him, she would’ve told him the truth a long time ago. Sam overall was a complicated character whom I love and hate at the same time. Though there are a few Seddie moments that I genuinely enjoyed. The kiss in the mental hospital when Freddie acted extra spicy grabbing and smirking at her. And when Sam saved him from the killer tuna (Sam in general was very morally inconsistent, but I do acknowledge how she helped more than harmed during her time at Sam and Cat). I think Freddie himself was a massively underrated character with great development, but he was treated too much like a punching bag. As much as we respect Jenette’s decision and support her for what she’s been through, I think it would’ve been interesting if Sam was in the revival. Maybe she’d feel genuine remorse for how she treated him before, and maybe even make up for the application she messed up.
@@kimseokjin4772 And it's just funny that you're getting upset by critics who critique something you like. Also, in case you haven't figured it out, opinions exist and Nickelodeon show ships are not perfect. If you still can't handle it, too bad.
I think Seddie actually could have worked if the writers had matured the two characters, there could have been a few scenes or even JUST ONE where Sam & Freddie had a REALLY in-depth conversation about their home lives and trying to understand each other.
I couldnt really get into the new icarly show. It didnt feel the same without sam. It seems Freddie's life went downhill without sam. Wasnt he married twice and divorced twice with a kid and broke? Honestly i thought Freddie would be the most successful. Sam by the way i took 80$ out of your wallet
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
1:021:10 I get that. I realized something kind of silly. You know "Don't trust me" by 3oh3? Despite the theme and lyrics, this song actually brings some sentiment in me. You see, I go to this bakery a lot, and I got along very well with a cute female worker (early twenties), who eventually left the job to work somewhere else. One day, I run into her at the bar (karaoke night) after midnight, and it was a good reunion. She and her friends were singing this song, and the woman gestured me to come toward them and pointed me to the lyrics on this screen. She encouraged me to sing with them, and I did. I realized something from that night: I don't just think she's cute; I think I have strong feelings for her. I don't think I want to go out with any other woman. But I don't know, should I ask her out, the next time I see her? I don't have her number, and that was the first time we saw each other outside of the bakery.
i see a lot of people down here saying they hate the reboot, but i don't think the reboot is that bad. and i personally don't think is fair not watching something just because your fav couple is no longer together. i like freddie and i see how much he's grown. and i'm hopping someday jennette come back to the show. honestly, the only thing i think that makes no sense in the revival is the fact they don't mention sam (ok only in the first episode to kinda explain why she's not there). what makes me sad is they being so indifferent about sam with the justification that "is just sam being sam". but if they shows freddie looking for sam, everyone would expect her appearance, which has a lot of chances of failure.
it is fair not to watch it bc ur fav couple isn’t together bc it’s the only thing a lot people enjoyed. and jennette won’t come back, she’s releasing a book she just turned 30 , she’s in a committed relationship and she’s left icarly in the past due to trauma and just moving forward. it’s just that the storylines on the reboot makes no sense which is the point of this video :))))
@@leaveya i completely agree !!! i wasnt trying to be mean sorry if it came off like that!!! im just saying my pov & i know there’s some good moments in it i just don’t like the stories themselves minus the ship stuff yk??? but you’re completely right!!!!
I agrée thé reboot i personally like. It’s definitely not fair that people are hating on it because Sam and Freddy won’t be together. Everyone is in the reboot besides Sam and Gibby. However I do hate that the reboot is pushing Carly and Freddie together. Just because I never wanted them together. I’m hoping it gets canceled before it becomes a thing.
Wow, it's like their feelings changed after many years of space or something. So weird.... Though I think if they just killed off Sam and let Freddie's kid be his and Sam's kid instead, that might have worked better... Then they could bring up them missing Sam and use her loss for the plot repeatedly...
This so sad because im sure if the script would be different since There is Clearly Much more seddies than creddies (I don't know if that changed but it was when Icarly was airing) yeah in pretty sure if Sam was in the reebot they will do what the fans want since they will get alot of hate but that's just my opinion
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Thank you for me the reboot didn't happen and Sam and Freddie are married with their crazy children and their even crazier moms. Also there was another way to show could have worked around this in the reboot They could have had Carly ask oh by the way how are things going with Sam and then you could explain why she's not in the show by saying that she's off doing some journalist stuff or something like that Maybe even hosting a fight club that one's probably the more likely outcome point being is that they could have done anything else to explain that instead they're just like dust in the wind.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
I wish they didn't break up. They could've make it work even if they fought all the time. I know they would. This is how they were. But they cared about each other. They even said they loved each other. And I don't think Sam fallen in love with someone else after Freddie. Neither did Freddie but idk the reboot. I didn't watch it because I know they are probably making Carly and Freddie getting together.
You are right they did end up together in season 3 of the reboot and it disappointed me because Carly and Freddie make better friends they have no romantic chemistry like Sam and Freddie did
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
The reboot is trash 🗑️ and honestly I feel like they shouldn't have had Carly and Freddie get together I will always love seddie I wish Jeannette McCurdy didn't have trauma and was able to come back as sam and her and Freddie could get back together
@@umm3allawy too bad, sorry to burst y'all's bubble..just because you minority don't like it, are sore that you lost because you had wrongly presumed you won with seddie all those years and still can't seem to respect the plot that is continuing from the original nor Jennette's decision, doesn't make it trash lol. It's even better and more humane than the original FYI, and millions are loving it and anticipating more seasons of it. Also it's called a *Revival for a reason.
@@moiii_01 No really its not because of that the reboot in general is bad and how creddie ended up happening was dumb she kept him as his last choice when everyone left her
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Honestly, I don't consider the reboot canon. It's not only making zero sense, a little because of iWon't Cancel The Show aswell, but was also unnecessary.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again. Just so you know, most people are mature enough to see that the canon iCarly revival-sequel series has even come to be even better than the original series and many are loving it
@@moiii_01 not exactly. Dan Schneider and later Nathan Kress both confirmed after Sam and Cat, that Freddie and Sam ended up together. The reboot is non-canon for me, because it doesn't include the original creators like Dan Schneider, so I don't care for it.
@@BritishMilkTea @AmartaniPnZ later confirmed when?🤣or you mean 'you wish' they did so? Search up the interview of Nathan in 2015 and step out of your denial, okay. That episode of Sam and Cat, Dan had y'all dangling especially since Miranda/Carly wasn't it and he knew you guys were desperate yet he still left it indefinite of anything substantial and made sure Freddie didn't still profess whom he picked amongst the two girls, also adding how his mum mentioned the aspect of his still pining and missing Carly in that same episode, that shaow had SEVERAL episodes following that and Freddie wasn't even in the least bit mentioned again talkless of Sam getting back with him, Dan baited and successfully trolled you guys good. Oh and yeah, the *revival series is very much canon, heck even Nickelodeon acknowledges it till date so as a non-shipper of the OG series myself, I can tell that you're just proving sore🤡
@@moiii_01 they did confirm and there is sources online unlike whatever the BS ur saying, ur just a delusional creddie fan who thinks a girl rejecting someone for 15 years and then liking them later as an adult is “healthy”
To be honest I kinda like that Carly and Freddie finally got a chance to be together. In the original series they were only little kids and I don’t think Carly actually realised how much Freddie was there for her but in the reboot after becoming an adult she realise how loyal and kind and loving Freddie was and that he would literally do anything in the world for her and no matter what he was going to be there for her even if their relationship doesn’t work out. For example he was literally willing to recreate every single childhood photo with Carly that was on her destroyed hard drive even though he was mad at her. Freddie loved her so much and if not Carly at least Freddie deserved his Happy ending and his biggest wish to happen
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Personally I like the reboot, and it’s literally just a show. Jennette didn’t want to be in the reboot, but I’m sure the character of Sam would be happy for Carly and Freddie. P.S: I understand if Seddie was your favorite but the reboot definitely make sense because Freddie was in love with Carly first.
Exactlyy!! Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again. The actors even confirmed in recent interviews that Sam would be happy for Creddie Finally getting together now.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Honestly I miss sam on icarly the reboot is not too bad I respect Jeanette McCurdy s choice of not wanting to be in the reboot due to her horrible past traumas being on the show but I feel Carly and Freddie's realtionship is being forced in the reboot because sam isn't in it if she was it would be a whole different storyline I can't really see Carly and Freddie together to me it's more like they are brother and sister and meant to stay best friends. The reboot doesn't make sense with how apparently after the sam and cat episode Freddie got married to two totally different woman and marriages failed so now he's a single father raising his adopted daughter it's ridiculous how they completely erased seddie from the reboot and gave Freddie a different storyline
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
How is Freddie moving on with his life and not just obsessing over Carly and Sam, something that doesn't make sense? Freddie actually moving on with his life, even getting married even if those weren't successful is what Makes Freddie a much better character. If he was still just holding on feelings for his high school sweethearts he'd come up as someone terribly obsessed like he was as a child. The fact that he isn't is what shows he has matured as a person. Also what does the Sam and Cat episode contradict? The one episode people keep bringing up is the episode that has one moment of Sam asking Freddie out that isn't even followed up in the show itself as we never see the date and Freddie is not brought up in the show again even through there are multiple episodes after that episode. So seriously when the show that it happened in itself doesn't bring up what happened then why would the revival?
Sam is horrifically abusive to Freddie. Constantly bullying him, putting him down verbally, threatening him with violence, assaulting him with a tennis racket! And exposing secrets he confessed to Carly live on air. It’s probably not that deep but the fact that Seddie shippers make excuses for Sam’s physical violence and abuse towards Freddie and act like that shit was romantic makes me terrified if these people are in relationships. So is that how y’all treat your partners? Y’all verbally and physically abuse your significant others?
Even though I’m a Seddie shipper through and through, i’m not gonna pretend that it was okay because it wasn’t but I know some people who them and their friends genuinely play around like that. Of course, if both parties don’t consent, then it absolutely is not okay, no matter what genders the victim or the abuser is.
My thoughts exactly. It still boggles my mind how people blatantly ignore the faults of Sam and Freddie as a couple and their relationship history, and consider them to be the best when they are clearly not.
Yeah thanks, I hate the reboot, it's destroying my childhood series. It's not canon for me and for many others. I would love a reboot, IF all characters are included. But Jennette has a valid reason to don't participate. So if I would be in charge, I would just don’t do a reboot. It's not nescessary. Their adult live? That's not like iCarly felt. I would just leave the "KillerTunaJump" as an kinda ending. The rest is for the fans. NOTHING will ever get in the way of Sam and Freddies unique love. (And Cat and Robbies. They never get together either, what a shame).
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
It would have been great for the reboot of Sam came back. Who would he choose as an adult? But McCurdy has a valid reason to stay away. And put Freddie and Carly together isn’t so bad, at least they have a love triangle dynamic so it at least we’ll enough.
Actually Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Sam and Freddie together made no sense no wonder Sam and Cat got canceled Carly and Freddie are meant to be together I’m so happy that Carly and Freddie are a official couple Carly and Freddie are each other’s true love and future husband and wife I was so bored watching Sam and Cat
If Jennette was on the show, it would still be Creddie cause literally no one in the cast shipped Seddie and they all would've been producers. Might have been a added dynamic of a love triangle just to add some tension and drama, but Creddie would've been endgame simply because Nathan though Seddie was weird, Jennette didn't like Seddie, Jerry prefers Creddie, and Miranda has been Creddie's number one superfan for over a decade now. 😂 With or without Jennette, what's happening now was going to happen. I feel like the only one who wanted Seddie was Dan, and he has no involvement so...oh well.
Funny enough Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
seddie was always endgame bc of the sam and cat episode, because dan isn’t involved anymore producers are just giving fan demand and aren’t actually giving creddie a buildup
@@srrenityy8083because he asked her out for dinner? They're friends. Of course they're eating dinner and talk about the old times. Also it happened like 10 years ago. Things have changed. Even if Freddie went back to Sam again it doesn't matter they probably broke up cause after that he got his 2 marriages and got Millicent and then whole Love triangle thing with Carly, Pearl and Freddie, and then whole Creddie thing and then probably they're marriage. Even if he got back to Sam together in Sam and Cat, it's still 10 years ago and a lot of things happened during the 10 years and above
@@Simbala-bq5vy if sam was in the revival (which is canceled now), their storyline wud be more continuous than creddies. they only put freddie n carly together now bc sam isn’t there anymore n they didn’t have any other choice
You need to know that Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@JaxNovoa509 bud i wrote this comment almost a yr ago u seem like a grown adult so get a job instead of unnecessarily leaving dumb comments on ytb like this!!
I will never understand how everyone ships Seddie honestly. They have no chemistry, and when they dated all they did was argue. They were toxic as hell...
*Oh Seddie shippers. Thank you for reminding me of how this world is going to ruin. Thank you for teaching us all that toxic and abusive relationships are totally the way to go. Thank you for being the reason why people (especially young people) end up in all sorts of dangerous situations because they listened to relationship advice from the likes of you. Thank you. Really. I appreciate it.* 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Okay but can u engage with the conversation for a little bit? Most reasonable Seddie shippers (yes there are crazies but that's true for any fandom) will agree that what they did with sam's character was wrong. The reasonable Seddie shippers will agree that the couple is a lot of potential that was wasted and done dirty. But the majority of Seddie shippers love it for the potential that was there, where Sam learns to develop and move beyond her violent ways and mature into herself as a young adult, and Freddie learns to grow a backbone and stops being scared of the world and is able to match sam's energy and passion. Seddie fans aren't just out here praising abusive relationships, so please don't be unnecessarily reductive lol
@@dragonpaulz_ No. Negative. Everything you just said you have is not quite right or just straight up wrong. Sam doesn't develop and move beyond her violent ways at all. She just passes her violent nature onto Gibby. Since she can't abuse Freddie anymore (which she never truly stops, she still insults and demeans him while bossing him around and she said point blank that she still hits him just not in the face) she starts abusing Gibby instead. Did you forget that she attacked Gibby like a wild animal ripping out his hair, messing up his foot/leg to where he had to walk with a crutch, I believe cracking a rib and in the process of doing so also assaulted Spencer hitting him the nether region. And Freddie doesn't really grow a backbone because he continues to just take Sam's ridiculousness. Did you also forget how Sam ruined Freddie's whole future by sabotaging his camp thing? Something that would have gotten him into a great college and set him up for life to make all his dreams come true? She heartlessly ripped that away from him and it was because he didn't know what time it was. He lets her off the hook for that way too easily because Carly forces him to because "Who cares" she says. Who gives a flying you-know-what about Freddie's feelings, his dreams, his wants and needs. He has to forgive Sam just because Carly told him to. Even after she doesn't even actually apologize for it. Sam loves Freddie and wants forgiveness so he has to give it to her. Does that sound good to you? Don't sit there and tell me I'm being reductive when blind worshippers are literally overlooking all this horrible stuff. Potential? What potential? The potential to be a good couple if only Sam wasn't an abusive monster? That's not good, that's not a good risk to take on yourself. I know that because I've been abused. Hell Jeanette herself hates the Sam character and couldn't stand playing her. That says a lot. But there's obviously no convincing you guys. Clearly actually being in an abusive situation is the only way to understand this.
@@truthseeker9249 so it seems you didn't understand what I said lol I am agreeing with you. She doesn't develop or mature in any form, and that is a very blatant problem. I was merely talking about the potential that was never cashed in.
@@dragonpaulz_ Oh. Well. The only way there would have been potential is if Sam was different. Still had most of her personality but wasn't abusive. If she still picked on Freddie the whole show but not as horribly. If it really was just innocent teasing and petty bickering between the two of them and then her falling in love with him and dating him, that would have been really cute. Like if she was rude to him but never physically harmed him or did anything to seriously hurt him mentally things could have been different. It all boils down to Sam. Sorry for my emotions. Like I said I have been abused so I take this seriously. And other people really DO praise Sam and Freddie's relationship and actually defend or rationalize Sam's abusive actions. Either they don't know what abuse is or they love Sam so much as a character that they refuse to see her negative qualities. I see that all the time and I'm so sick of it. I thought you were doing that too. I'm sorry. 😔
@@truthseeker9249 don't worry lol I know there are some crazy ride or die overzealous Seddie fans. I just think they're a loud minority and that most Seddie fans wish that the potential of Seddie was actually what the show was able to tap into, but acknowledge never got there
The thing with Seddie is... Was it important to the plot? Did it made a huge difference on the story and its characters? Cause it didn't changed Freddies character. He wasn't getting mire comfortable. Sam was also the same she still treats him like trash. Also if they would have really supposed to be endgame. Why was Freddie asking Carly if its to late to fall in love with her? It doesn't get mentioned at all. Seddie was just an idea. It was just for the fans while Creddie was for the plot, for the story. Also of Sam always loved Freddie. Why did she beat him up? Oh its because she likes him! Oh really? Then why didn't she beat Cort or that dude in season 1 or that where she change her whole personality just to be with him!? Also if she really had feelings for him, why did she said during the Webicon episode. "It's true Carly and Freddie are deeply in love"? And not "Its true, Freddie and I are dating"? Im sorry but Seddie doesn't make sense at all. It would have worked if she actually developed and became less mean to Freddie not everything in one episode!
@@CoolThings123 seddie was NEVER end-game. They couldn't even work out when they had the chance and needed 3rd party aid with their 24/7 non-compatibility much less how they even admitted they were forcing their connection to be romantic when it wasn't!
Oh My God, same!!😊 I love Sam and I can still tell that she and Freddie weren't the right match for each other and Sam too could tell that Freddie never got over his feelings for Carly in iOpenARestaurant in Season 6 of the original and just as Nathan and Miranda said in recent interviews, I bet Sam would be so happy that Creddie finally got together 💓☺️
I love how never in my entire icarly experience have se/ddies ever managed to debunk any of my arguments and they just change the topic to talk about ship dynamic. I guess being abusive is okay as long as you're a girl, right?
Just so you know, Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
I don't know, this relationship was equally toxic as it was "showing chemistry" between them. As much as they looked Sexy, i know plenty of couples just like them that end up being in very toxic situations including myself. A couple like them would have been in a divorce, domestic abuse or even worse if this wasn't fiction. I know the opposites attracts thing if something people fetish over in these shows and stories, but realistically in the real world, fiction rarely works. This is why the revival (not reboot) indirectly fixes this in s3e3, in hindsight, after we find out what Carly did to Freddie in Italy before Sam and Cat. So now we know why Freddie went back to Sam during Sam and Cat. ruclips.net/video/wZDvoQFr5aU/видео.html And this is also why the revival is successful with these two. Sam and Freddie were passionate, yet extremely toxic, where as Carly and Freddie look like complete soulmates. Freddie looks genuinely the happiest around Carly and we've never seen Carly look equally comfortable in a relationship until now. They're adults now, wiser, and with completely matured preferences, so them finding each other again after finding themselves as fully realized adults makes sense. There is no need to force complex feelings of love as children, most kids don't have that complex wisdom to make the right choices whenever it comes down to this.
Yes, in real life, this relationship would be toxic as hell but this isn’t real life it’s a TV show and form a TV show perspective in the original show Sam and Freddie were the more entertaining and compelling couple to watch and The chemistry between Nathan and Jeanette was also better that’s why they were the most popular pairing on iCarly during that time #Seddie
@@LILM-zn7uyverything that occurs in canon is depending on the vision of the director and writers. Doesn't matter what the fans favor, or more like half the fans because the ship between Carly vs Sam was honestly closer to 50-50. But at the end of the day, the creators chose to go with the more realistic pairing of Carly and Freddie and the writing now supports that. We now know why Freddie shows up in the Sam and Cat show, because of being "rejected" by Carly at Italy, prior to the Sam And Cat show. As much as we fans try to flip it, the writing works and it is what it is at this point. But we can't just claim that Freddie and Carly don't make sense because of this Sam and Cat moments, especially since we now know why Freddie went back to Sam. Heck, the revival show is already proving that fact wrong.
seddie is actually a very good couple, an amazing couple. They honestly compliment each other perfectly. sams abusive behavior is explained by her rough upbringing. does she go too far? perhaps, but every time she goes too far she recognizes shes done wrong and makes it up in her own way. she actually goes through CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT which is a rarity in nickelodeon shows. she starts off as an angry, hateful, abusive preteen who, through the influence of carly, and most importantly freddie, calms down as she matures into a young adult and is able to control her violent urges. Freddie, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. he starts off as a pushover lapdog who fawns over carly and would bend over backwards to please her. sam's influence is what makes him start to grow a backbone and stick up to himself, even growing to the point where he is standing up to his neurotic mother and even sam puckett on occasion. both characters bring out growth and positive qualities in each other while maintaining that great chemistry that left fans giggling every time they had a moment. as for the abuse part of icarly, people need to learn what tropes are. it is an insanely popular trope for badass hardcore tough person to fall for the person she torments, but people act like this is something new and has never been done before. are her violent outburts sometimes more exaggerated and pronounced than they should be? maybe, but so is everything else in the show. it is, like said before, and exaggerated show with exaggerated characters. besides, nobody wants perfect characters to be with each other. both freddie and sam have flaws, are called out on their flaws, and overcome those flaws because of the other's influence. that is why this couple works beautifully and everyone was upset at how horribly nickelodeon handled the seddie arc.
It's sad to see just how blinded and delusional people are to think a relationship like Sam and Freddie is good. And to actually justify Sam's abuse to Freddie and later to Gibby because she's so evil she has to abuse someone.
Honestly, to me, Carly and Freddie getting together was *almost* as disrespectful as the obliteration of Shane and Angela from Boy Meets World in it's lesser than"reboot"
Don't spread falsity just because you don't like the outcome of a situation, there is NO disrespect in the revival series at all, everything is continuing according to the original's plot..Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 really ok send link to that interview becst want know how I know u just lied multiple. times the og show literally ended with seddie sam and cat literally brought seddie up again and had sam and Freddie saying they still had feelings for EACHother. and ha Zero mention of Carly or Freddie and they literally said I'm reboot if she did if they would see seddie conclusions
@@DemonDon432 Google is free. Help yourself to it, Nathan had the interview since back in 2015 after Sam and Cat ended. And in that episode Ms. Benson had clearly mentioned that Freddie still pined and looked at Carly's door missing her even. Just because Miranda/Carly didn't appear doesn't mean she was out of Freddie's life, mind you so you're the liar here.
I can see why people ship these two and I really do respect that, but I can’t ship them after the small arc they had in the original show. That was such a toxic relationship and it was all played for laughs. Even when I was little it made me uncomfortable. There is also the fact that Sam was awful to him throughout the show. I wouldn’t want to go out with anyone who has ever treated me like that no matter how much they say they love me. Just my opinion though❤
Harper is literally her own character. Sam cannot be replaced. As we grow up, we meet new people. Harper is just a new friend for Carly. Sam will always be THE best friend.
🙄they did not replace Sam. Harper is unique in her own way and respect the actress Laci and keep that delusional toxicity away from her since y'all refuse to respect Jennette's personal decision as well!!
@@srrenityy8083 yeah suree they 'were tg' in arguesome toxicity and abuse 24/7 and barely lasted past even a day without Carly's help which they themselves had to ask for, lol. I wonder which year your fandom would finally wake up from your delusioning 🤡 Oh yeah and how you all keep subjecting Sam to be a second choice to Freddie who would choose and kiss Carly any day without a care about if Sam found out💀 what a 'love' that must be.
@@moiii_01 if u think love is about a girl rejecting a guy for 15 years straight only to support it by saying they’ve “matured”, then you’ve honestly never had a love life before. i’m not saying the abuse part was OK, but sam went through character development and as time went on she made fun of freddie less and less until they got into an actual relationship.
@@srrenityy8083 Sam was literally as good a SECOND CHOICE 💀😄😄😄(she even noticed herself) which Freddie would skip over to go kiss(and choose) Carly in a heartbeat yet y'all clamoring and still cooking excuse theories all for her to settle for LESS🤡 And yes, you sound like you truly have no idea what that is or means and I actually pity that.
I never liked the idea of Sam and Freddie breaking up, it felt like the only purpose of the breakup is so that the show can feature Carly and Freddie going back together and having an opportunity to be able to like each other again. But there is no purpose to why the couple broke up. Many couples are in the same circumstance and situation like Sam and Freddie, the important part is if they love each other or not, and is the 2 actually is right to date, couples fight all the time. So the breakup felt forced in so many ways. Way to go, Nickelodeon.
I’m happy that jennett had the choice to chose if she wanted to be in the reboot and I’m fine with her not being in it but like ruining seddie doesn’t make sense
Sorry to burst that bubble of yours but false, with or without the reboot or Jennette resigning or not, Sam and Freddie were never going to be end-game. There's proof, the actors and producers had leaked it years ago that Creddie was the plan.
@@moiii_01 if so then they made bad choice because seddie made more sense than creddie.
@@merman_laozu7781 Creddie makes all the sense more than seddie ever will.
@@moiii_01 Sigh..
@@merman_laozu7781 Neither made sense in the original because Carly was too Shallow, Sam was too Violent and Freddie was too obsessive with certain things.
In the revival how ever, Carly has grown to be less shallow and Freddie after going through two divorces has grown up to be less obsessive, making them a much more compatible pairing. It would be a fun story line of how Sam has grown up but considering according to the story she joined a Biker gang to follow her bliss it would mean she is still a free spirit which is actually one aspect of Sam that I wish wouldn't change which would be really incompatible with Freddie's current character.
Man, their breakup was so forced, you can see that the only reason why it happens it's because the writers needed the show to go back to the status quo
No, the relationship was forced, you should hear Janette talk about their first kissing scene in her book. Dan just kept making her redo it demanding “more head movement” and he got all mad when producers told him that they had to move on if they were going to finish filming that day. He enjoyed making her uncomfortable it's why he wrote the relationship into the show in the first place.
@@joshz2491ok but seddie has nothing to do with jennettes experience on icarly, stop trying to use jennettes trauma on the show as an excuse to make seddie a bad ship. although the relationship wasn’t planned out well, they always had chemistry throughout the show
@@srrenityy8083 Regardless of Jennette McCurdy coming back or not, Freddie was always meant for Carly, the actors have confirmed this severally. Sam and Freddie had no chemistry worth being in a relationship.. and on the other hand, Freddie had so much chemistry and compatibility with Carly. Nathan admitted seddie turned out so horrible when they got the chance to date and were just never going to work
@@moiii_01 freddie was never meant for carly. i can tell u clearly didn’t do ur research right bc nathan has said that although seddie wasn’t a good couple, creddie wasn’t all that either and he said that he liked freddie being with none of them and being with another girl that treats him better. seddie def had undeniable chemistry in their relationship, and it was always pointed out. they both had mutual love for eachother, and although the actors may not agree, the characters beg to differ.
@@srrenityy8083 go and search Nathan's interview in 2015😌then remember to laugh at your own self for being so confident in your presumptions🤣🤣🤣... Seddie had chemistry of a younger sister that bullies her brother, yeah that was for sure😆 and admitted when they forced romance out of it, was so weird and wrong, good thing Freddie woke up from that toxicity and never returned.
There's your proof that seddie is endgame no matter what the revival does
no
@@flomillishit8348 Yes, it is. They never stopped loving each other, it's sweet and heartbreaking and the reboot makes no sense in any way. Watch the video, and you hopefully will understand.
I’m a little late to this. But they were each other’s first loves so they will always care in some way for each other even if they don’t end up together.
@@flomillishit8348 shhh
I mean the girl that played Sam quit acting so.....
knowing these two, they never got closure and i know freddie is still in love with her so tell me how the reboot makes any sense at all!!! why isn't he looking for her!!!
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Simple; to be respectful of Jeannette
i always supported seddie no matter what. the reason i didnt choose carly was because she didnt like the 'obsessive' freddie at first ( i mean thats okay) but then liked him when she thought he was a hero. on top of that, even if she DIDNT like freddie and knew freddie liked her, she didnt want freddie to like someone else too, meaning that she knew she always had freddie wrapped around her finger. i feel seddie was a fiesty, chemistry-loaded relationship because they have been real best friends before that and it was fiery. i dont think that in the reboot they should have completely ruined seddie even if jennette didnt join because in the last episode of sam and cat, sam asks freddie out, so everyone assumes seddie to be the endgame. seddie forever
I haven’t really watched a reboot yet so I don’t know if the chemistry has changed but on the original series Sam and Freddie always had way more chemistry than Carly and Freddie Carly and Freddie never felt romantic they always felt like bffs Sam and Freddie had more passion even when they argue lol
because Carly wouldn’t make up her mind
Sam isn't in the reboot
Here is the thing passion is highly overrated and it fades. If you look at Carly and Freddie, really look at them in the original. Carly is just not consciously aware of her feelings for for Freddie. That's why his saving her life is so important because it makes her consciously aware that he is not just her best friend. The problem is that Sam manipulates Freddie into breaking up with Carly and leaves the two of them stuck hovering in this weird grey area.
Freddie dates Sam sure but they have no personal intimacy, no patience and no communication, in fact, the only thing that they agree on is that they should break up. The rest of the time they are dysfunctional at best and toxic at worst and Carly is stuck playing therapist.
Some couples with opposing personalities work but Freddie and Sam would rather be right than happy and because of that they would never work long-term.
Carly and Freddie work because they can just be together, romantic or not and they sacrifice for and stand up for each other. The only pressure in their relationship comes from other people telling them how they should feel and its why Carly in particular does not act on her feelings unless she is alone with Freddie, like their dance at groovy smoothy which is full of physical intimacy. I’m rewatching the original series and she might not act on her feelings much but Freddie is definitely more than a friend.
@@joshz2491 the truth is, I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying Carly and Freddie are definitely way more compatible in real life but here’s the thing this is a TV show and for for a TV pairing seddie is more compelling to watch In my opinion,their dynamic was better They had more chemistry and kept you more invested Freddie chasing after Carly who is the original series never liked Freddie That way got old very quickly and they did not have enough chemistry to keep me shipping the entire series but that’s just my opinion
I tried watching the reboot. It didn't feel right without sam.
Ugh, they’re only pushing Creddie together in the reboot for fan service / because they’re the only two true main characters we all know and love from the original… such a shame. All that Seddie potential is wasted, as if none of it existed and as if Carly didn’t think her friends were cute together and didn’t actually go to hookup with other guys 🤦🏻♀️
To clarify, I’ve only seen clips of the reboot and have not actually watched it, I kind of refuse to because of all the Creddie junk, and I know Jennette McCurdy has her reasons for not appearing in the show, but I kind of wish it was just implied that Freddie was with Sam and has been with Sam since the Sam & Cat episode… but alas, relationship drama sells.
no that’s not what’s happened Miranda stated that “Carly has always liked him” lmao sorry.
@@flomillishit8348 What the actress says isn't canon. And even if it would be canon that Carly likes him, he doesn't like her in that way. And he never did. A crush and real love is something different. He had a crush on her as a little boy which often happens with little boys and beautiful girls they know. As he grew older, he realised it and loved her as a friend. Other thing is, she even abused him, kind of, she used his crush on her so he does anything for her. Nothing against Carly, many people do that, but it's still not nice. But he realised it like every little boy does and understand what love means. Carly is even the one why he and Sam broke up. She said they didn't had a good relationship and they took it seriously. Yes, they fighted a lot, but that's normal, especially when you're a teenager and a person like Sam. But with time, it will get better. But they took her "advise" and broke up, altough they still love each other so much. And then.. They took their time, like I said. And when they met again, in L.A., they made up a date. He loves Sam and that never stopped and the reboot destroys all that, it makes no sense. Creddie fans are ridiculous, sorry. I'm so sure they would have made more Seddie content, but Jennette isn't an actress anymore and that's completely fine, she has valid reasons. But then I wouldn't make a reboot, the second main character isn't there, it's ridiculous. I would just leave it to the fans. Seddie is endgame and always was. It's such a unique couple.
@@yodel7781 your right
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Seddie was clearly back in their last interaction so why would the reboot completely disregard that?
I still think Sam was Freddie's first wife. Like maybe they married in Vegas and divorced right after they realized what happened...but either way, I will die on that hill.
That was always my thought too. Like after Sam answered Cat, she asked him out, I just thought maybe Sam was the first wife before Gwen. It would make sense timeline wise; In theory, anyway. (Lol) 😎
@@geraldinep.3287I don’t really think that theory works, Sam moved to LA and Freddie was all the way in Seattle. I highly doubt that would’ve worked, that just doesn’t seem like a likely option. Sorry if that sounded rude, I was just simply making a statement.
@@ChelseyIsATotal5SOSFan that's the fun part about theories; they're just that, and not definitive. 😉 You're entitled to your opinion. ❤
@@geraldinep.3287 Oh I know, the only reason I said that was because I felt like everyone was taking it way too seriously. But like you said everyone is entitled to their opinion ☺️❤️
@@ChelseyIsATotal5SOSFan 💯💯💯
They are MY endgame I don't care what happens in the reboot, it might be sweet, they might have worked it well, but Seddie will be forever endgame for me and that's why I'm writing my own version making them be healthier and having actual character development :)
I love this ship so much, I think I'm gonna write a song about it. It's gonna be from Sam's perspective and I already have some lyrics. Including this one which I'm very proud: "But I love you, I always have. You can see it in my eyes if you look past the darkness and look past the lies"
OOOOO it sounds so good already!!! Update me when it’s done!!
Nice user
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
@@amarylily Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
@@BABS_SEED Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
There was a huge waste of potential from Sam and Freddie's couple, because of that enemies to lovers vibe, but their relationship was terribly executed, so was Sam's behavior forcing "comedy" through violence and toxicity as a friend and girlfriend.
Fanfics did a beautiful work playing Seddie couple, even the Creddie one more than the show (now the reboot) could ever do. I was always a Seddie fan and I know it was endgame, at least, for the original creator of iCarly (the you know who). For their own reasons they decided to air a reboot no one asked for and the worst, without Jennette (the most important character we would have loved to watch un-censored in dialogue) I think, with her the show would be a trillion times more succesful xd
However, if you are having fun watching the reboot and it has been a gift for your inner child, good for you. More than all, if you are a Creddie fan since the beggining. I just wanted to express how upset all of this got me in this unfortunate adult life 😂
Nathan kress had confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked
I appreciate this comment because it doesn’t just see things so much in a black-and-white narrative. I used to rant about this ship being “abusive,” which some could understandably see as such, but I’m trying not to judge too much with real-life standards.
I agree with you that Seddie was good potential but horribly executed. They had similar toxic backgrounds, and they had massive character development. When they weren’t fighting (and by “fighting” it’s really Sam tormenting Freddie 96% of the time), they had some wholesome bonding moments, like playing meatball golf. I think the dynamic would’ve been much improved if Freddie also fought Sam more often (he slapped her back one time, and that was nice).
Sam overall was a pretty tricky character to handle, and I have complicated views about her. She was very hilarious, but sometimes she takes it too far and it just comes off annoying. She’s a character whom I love and hate at the same time. Though these days I’m not so interested in ragging on Sam as much as I want to uplift Freddie, who I believe is massively underrated and reminds me of those spicy Disney Channel white guys with his charisma.
And yeah, Jenette is a wonderful person who deserved better than what she’s been through. As much as we missed her as Sam, we should respect her decision and support her by other means.
I honestly have up on the reboot . I will not be finishing s2. I’m not really into icarly as much as I used to but seeing these clips reminded me about how much I love it. 😭I miss the OG show
SAME!!!! editing the show makes me feel still connected as if nothing changed!!
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again. The revival series has turned out to be better and more wholesomely humane than the original ever was
@@jiaralenas Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked!
I haven't watched the reboot specifically because she wasn't in it she was my favorite part of the original show. I hope everyone who ever did that amazing strong woman wrong get what they deserve.
I hate the reboot I really miss Sam and Freddie i feel like creddie is not made for a relationship is more like siblings
Same
YES THIS!!!!
no
Yeah
Exactly!!!!!!!
although im not the die-hard seddie shipper i was in the golden icarly days, i still have a soft spot for them since they were my first real ship. you cant tell me that theyre not going down the creddie route bc of nostalgia purposes and fan service as well as the chemistry miranda and nathan now have which was pretty much non existent in the og show. i havent actually watched the reboot but it seems heavily reliant on nostalgia and cameos in order to draw in any real interest.
Why are there so many of you who keep saying "I haven't watched the show at all but from these certain out of context clips I have seen I think this and that are the problem with it" and I'm not just talking about ICarly. There are too many people who want to criticize something that they themselves state they have never experienced.
@@anishparajuli5218 Doing research is hard and they have FOMO so they blurt out something so they can feel like part of the chorus
@@TDCamper22 I find this terribly annoying. Especially when they say everything opposite to what is actually happening in what they are talking about.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
@@TDCamper22 funny thing is Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle & they knew better not to try dating again.
I keep hoping Freddie would say something about what happened with him and Sam in the reboot!!
I understand why some of you are upset about the creddie when seddie was your favorite. But if Sam was on the show, you know she would be so happy for Carly and Freddie.
no she would throw up blood lol
if sam was in the reboot i guarantee seddie would be endgame lmao
The truth is we don't know what would happen if Sam was in the show. There's no more reason to think Sam and Freddie would end up together than Freddie and Carly ending up together. Creddie being canon in the reboot is completely arbitrary
@@lo.miller7297 ehm, you're wrong. Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@dragonpaulz_ Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
They should never have done the reboot without all of them
So they shouldn’t have done the reboot without Jennette? Unfortunately she had a lot of terrible experiences on the show. Which are completely valid reasons why she didn’t want to come back to the show, and I’m sure they are completely capable of doing the show without her. Fuller House did a whole 5 seasons without the Olsen Twins who played Michelle. Not everyone needs to be in the reboot for it to work.
@@ChelseyIsATotal5SOSFan They meant the Reboot was really unnecessary and does not make sense any way.
@@merman_laozu7781 But obviously it’s necessary for the other actors, not everyone from the show wants to make an appearance. Jennette is not going to risk her mental health for a show, I think the reboot is fine with just Carly, Freddie, and Spencer.
@@ChelseyIsATotal5SOSFan Exactly. The reboot is dumb af and shouldn't have been made at all.
@@merman_laozu7781 The reboot is fantastic, answers a lot of query's we had on the original show (like what happened to Carly's mother), and is actually something Jennette doesn't mind as she he adores the other actors on the cast and knows how much this show means to them.
No show in the history is necessary, even the original wasn't necessary but when the cast have a genuinely good idea for a show in which they have poured so much love and Passion into it is a wonderful thing to have.
I’m just going to ignore the reboot. But no hate to jennette because I understand why she didn’t come back❤️
For me, it didn't feel the same without sam. I didn't like how they wrote Freddie. You would think he would be the most successful
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@batmanrocks6727 Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
Since Jennette M. isn't likely to return to the role, the only way Seddie will be endgame is if they recast, which is even *less* likely. Or in fanfic.
That will be worse there is only person who can be sam
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Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@aliyahhussain4553 Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked
honestly creddie exudes platonic bffs till the reboot so i don't see how it really made sense to push those two after what happened beforeeeee
what happened? nothing shut up.
@@flomillishit8348 Dude, are you commenting on everything to spread your fucking opinion everywhere? We don’t care if you ship Creddie, even if it doesn't make sense, but stop harrasing us with it. We don’t care and do our stuff, you don’t care and do your stuff. Stop offending others. I already explained everything on another comment, kiddo.
@@flomillishit8348 you really over here replying to all these ppls comments and on top of that being rude to them too….
@@flomillishit8348how about u shut up and get off the internet if u can’t respect ppls opinions you L creddie shipper
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
No Seddie in iCarly made me decide to never watch the reboot. Don't get me wrong, Creddie was also in the original version and I'm fine with that ship. I just wish this ended with Seddie. But go Jennette for doing what was best for her.
As a former shipper, imo Seddie was nice potential, but poorly executed, both the build-up and arc itself. I think Freddie genuinely loved and cared about Sam, but not so much the other way around. Considering how she tormented him before they dated, it would’ve been nice to see Freddie hit her at times, or at least pull a Josh is Done moment when he found out she messed up his application (Even under a pro-Seddie stance there isn’t much worth defending; I don’t get why he forgave her). If Sam truly loved him, she would’ve told him the truth a long time ago. Sam overall was a complicated character whom I love and hate at the same time.
Though there are a few Seddie moments that I genuinely enjoyed. The kiss in the mental hospital when Freddie acted extra spicy grabbing and smirking at her. And when Sam saved him from the killer tuna (Sam in general was very morally inconsistent, but I do acknowledge how she helped more than harmed during her time at Sam and Cat). I think Freddie himself was a massively underrated character with great development, but he was treated too much like a punching bag.
As much as we respect Jenette’s decision and support her for what she’s been through, I think it would’ve been interesting if Sam was in the revival. Maybe she’d feel genuine remorse for how she treated him before, and maybe even make up for the application she messed up.
The pure denial in this comment section is STRONG.
Indeed. Nothing but dense Seddie fans.
@@JaxNovoa509it ain’t that serious
@@kimseokjin4772 And what's your point? We're allowed to disagree with a popular opinion whether you like it or not.
@@JaxNovoa509 it’s just funny how you are all over the comments being a buzzkill over a Nickelodeon kids show ship yk 💗 it isn’t that serious
@@kimseokjin4772 And it's just funny that you're getting upset by critics who critique something you like. Also, in case you haven't figured it out, opinions exist and Nickelodeon show ships are not perfect. If you still can't handle it, too bad.
I’ll never forgive the writers for splitting them up. Even as a kid it pissed me off, like they are legit perfect for each other
So.....moments like Sam beating up Freddie to make him appreciate Fred is an example of them being perfect for each other?
Ugh saying I love you right before the break up was CRUEL. They belonged together
I think Seddie actually could have worked if the writers had matured the two characters, there could have been a few scenes or even JUST ONE where Sam & Freddie had a REALLY in-depth conversation about their home lives and trying to understand each other.
Like water and oil.
I couldnt really get into the new icarly show. It didnt feel the same without sam. It seems Freddie's life went downhill without sam. Wasnt he married twice and divorced twice with a kid and broke? Honestly i thought Freddie would be the most successful. Sam by the way i took 80$ out of your wallet
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 L
I like creddie it’s cute but seddie is honestly more interesting and feels more realistic some how? Idk
1:02 1:10 I get that. I realized something kind of silly. You know "Don't trust me" by 3oh3? Despite the theme and lyrics, this song actually brings some sentiment in me. You see, I go to this bakery a lot, and I got along very well with a cute female worker (early twenties), who eventually left the job to work somewhere else. One day, I run into her at the bar (karaoke night) after midnight, and it was a good reunion. She and her friends were singing this song, and the woman gestured me to come toward them and pointed me to the lyrics on this screen. She encouraged me to sing with them, and I did. I realized something from that night: I don't just think she's cute; I think I have strong feelings for her. I don't think I want to go out with any other woman. But I don't know, should I ask her out, the next time I see her? I don't have her number, and that was the first time we saw each other outside of the bakery.
i see a lot of people down here saying they hate the reboot, but i don't think the reboot is that bad. and i personally don't think is fair not watching something just because your fav couple is no longer together. i like freddie and i see how much he's grown. and i'm hopping someday jennette come back to the show. honestly, the only thing i think that makes no sense in the revival is the fact they don't mention sam (ok only in the first episode to kinda explain why she's not there). what makes me sad is they being so indifferent about sam with the justification that "is just sam being sam". but if they shows freddie looking for sam, everyone would expect her appearance, which has a lot of chances of failure.
it is fair not to watch it bc ur fav couple isn’t together bc it’s the only thing a lot people enjoyed. and jennette won’t come back, she’s releasing a book she just turned 30 , she’s in a committed relationship and she’s left icarly in the past due to trauma and just moving forward. it’s just that the storylines on the reboot makes no sense which is the point of this video :))))
@@jiaralenas hey hold on, i'm not disagreeing with you, the point i wanna make clear is that i >> personally
@@leaveya i completely agree !!! i wasnt trying to be mean sorry if it came off like that!!! im just saying my pov & i know there’s some good moments in it i just don’t like the stories themselves minus the ship stuff yk??? but you’re completely right!!!!
@@jiaralenas it's ok, i understand your point as well!
I agrée thé reboot i personally like. It’s definitely not fair that people are hating on it because Sam and Freddy won’t be together. Everyone is in the reboot besides Sam and Gibby. However I do hate that the reboot is pushing Carly and Freddie together. Just because I never wanted them together. I’m hoping it gets canceled before it becomes a thing.
This is your proof that seddie is endgame!
Wow, it's like their feelings changed after many years of space or something. So weird....
Though I think if they just killed off Sam and let Freddie's kid be his and Sam's kid instead, that might have worked better...
Then they could bring up them missing Sam and use her loss for the plot repeatedly...
This so sad because im sure if the script would be different since There is Clearly Much more seddies than creddies (I don't know if that changed but it was when Icarly was airing) yeah in pretty sure if Sam was in the reebot they will do what the fans want since they will get alot of hate but that's just my opinion
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked
@@moiii_01 then y do they say they love each other in Sam and cat huh Ur wrong
Thank you for me the reboot didn't happen and Sam and Freddie are married with their crazy children and their even crazier moms.
Also there was another way to show could have worked around this in the reboot They could have had Carly ask oh by the way how are things going with Sam and then you could explain why she's not in the show by saying that she's off doing some journalist stuff or something like that Maybe even hosting a fight club that one's probably the more likely outcome point being is that they could have done anything else to explain that instead they're just like dust in the wind.
I refuse to watch the reboot exactly for this reason. I'll always be a Seddie fan ❤️❤️
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 NO ONE ASKED!
This makes no sense.😆 We all saw the og iCarly ended with Freddie kissing Carly even when Sam was there and that was just the least of it.
I wish they didn't break up. They could've make it work even if they fought all the time. I know they would. This is how they were. But they cared about each other. They even said they loved each other. And I don't think Sam fallen in love with someone else after Freddie. Neither did Freddie but idk the reboot. I didn't watch it because I know they are probably making Carly and Freddie getting together.
You are right they did end up together in season 3 of the reboot and it disappointed me because Carly and Freddie make better friends they have no romantic chemistry like Sam and Freddie did
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 seddie on top cry about it
I honestly didn’t like the reboot its not the same without sam
The reboot is trash 🗑️ and honestly I feel like they shouldn't have had Carly and Freddie get together I will always love seddie I wish Jeannette McCurdy didn't have trauma and was able to come back as sam and her and Freddie could get back together
@@cristinagarcia2215 Its is trash and honestly its based on nostalgia and nothing else
@@umm3allawy too bad, sorry to burst y'all's bubble..just because you minority don't like it, are sore that you lost because you had wrongly presumed you won with seddie all those years and still can't seem to respect the plot that is continuing from the original nor Jennette's decision, doesn't make it trash lol. It's even better and more humane than the original FYI, and millions are loving it and anticipating more seasons of it. Also it's called a *Revival for a reason.
@@moiii_01 No really its not because of that the reboot in general is bad and how creddie ended up happening was dumb she kept him as his last choice when everyone left her
@@umm3allawy she didn't keep in the "last" choice 😑 clearly you haven't watched it to understand the story so don't state what didn't happen.
my tv parents, my FIRST ever ship oml.
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked
Honestly, I don't consider the reboot canon. It's not only making zero sense, a little because of iWon't Cancel The Show aswell, but was also unnecessary.
The reboots canon deal with it
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again. Just so you know, most people are mature enough to see that the canon iCarly revival-sequel series has even come to be even better than the original series and many are loving it
@@moiii_01 not exactly. Dan Schneider and later Nathan Kress both confirmed after Sam and Cat, that Freddie and Sam ended up together. The reboot is non-canon for me, because it doesn't include the original creators like Dan Schneider, so I don't care for it.
@@BritishMilkTea @AmartaniPnZ later confirmed when?🤣or you mean 'you wish' they did so? Search up the interview of Nathan in 2015 and step out of your denial, okay. That episode of Sam and Cat, Dan had y'all dangling especially since Miranda/Carly wasn't it and he knew you guys were desperate yet he still left it indefinite of anything substantial and made sure Freddie didn't still profess whom he picked amongst the two girls, also adding how his mum mentioned the aspect of his still pining and missing Carly in that same episode, that shaow had SEVERAL episodes following that and Freddie wasn't even in the least bit mentioned again talkless of Sam getting back with him, Dan baited and successfully trolled you guys good. Oh and yeah, the *revival series is very much canon, heck even Nickelodeon acknowledges it till date so as a non-shipper of the OG series myself, I can tell that you're just proving sore🤡
@@moiii_01 they did confirm and there is sources online unlike whatever the BS ur saying, ur just a delusional creddie fan who thinks a girl rejecting someone for 15 years and then liking them later as an adult is “healthy”
To be honest I kinda like that Carly and Freddie finally got a chance to be together. In the original series they were only little kids and I don’t think Carly actually realised how much Freddie was there for her but in the reboot after becoming an adult she realise how loyal and kind and loving Freddie was and that he would literally do anything in the world for her and no matter what he was going to be there for her even if their relationship doesn’t work out. For example he was literally willing to recreate every single childhood photo with Carly that was on her destroyed hard drive even though he was mad at her. Freddie loved her so much and if not Carly at least Freddie deserved his Happy ending and his biggest wish to happen
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked
Personally I like the reboot, and it’s literally just a show. Jennette didn’t want to be in the reboot, but I’m sure the character of Sam would be happy for Carly and Freddie.
P.S: I understand if Seddie was your favorite but the reboot definitely make sense because Freddie was in love with Carly first.
And his relationship with Sam was literally abusive.
Exactlyy!! Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again. The actors even confirmed in recent interviews that Sam would be happy for Creddie Finally getting together now.
but carly liking freddie after rejecting him for 15 years? yeah mhm totally compatible
@@truthseeker9249 it wasn’t but ok ☠️
@@moiii_01 “exactly!! 🤓🤓” get ur ahh outta here obsessed seddie fan 😜
It sucks that creddie is endgame in the reboot cuz Sam isnt there 😔
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked
Honestly I miss sam on icarly the reboot is not too bad I respect Jeanette McCurdy s choice of not wanting to be in the reboot due to her horrible past traumas being on the show but I feel Carly and Freddie's realtionship is being forced in the reboot because sam isn't in it if she was it would be a whole different storyline I can't really see Carly and Freddie together to me it's more like they are brother and sister and meant to stay best friends. The reboot doesn't make sense with how apparently after the sam and cat episode Freddie got married to two totally different woman and marriages failed so now he's a single father raising his adopted daughter it's ridiculous how they completely erased seddie from the reboot and gave Freddie a different storyline
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
How is Freddie moving on with his life and not just obsessing over Carly and Sam, something that doesn't make sense? Freddie actually moving on with his life, even getting married even if those weren't successful is what Makes Freddie a much better character. If he was still just holding on feelings for his high school sweethearts he'd come up as someone terribly obsessed like he was as a child. The fact that he isn't is what shows he has matured as a person.
Also what does the Sam and Cat episode contradict? The one episode people keep bringing up is the episode that has one moment of Sam asking Freddie out that isn't even followed up in the show itself as we never see the date and Freddie is not brought up in the show again even through there are multiple episodes after that episode.
So seriously when the show that it happened in itself doesn't bring up what happened then why would the revival?
How does its feel focred it take 2 seasons to get them together and it feels so natural
Sam is horrifically abusive to Freddie. Constantly bullying him, putting him down verbally, threatening him with violence, assaulting him with a tennis racket! And exposing secrets he confessed to Carly live on air. It’s probably not that deep but the fact that Seddie shippers make excuses for Sam’s physical violence and abuse towards Freddie and act like that shit was romantic makes me terrified if these people are in relationships. So is that how y’all treat your partners? Y’all verbally and physically abuse your significant others?
Even though I’m a Seddie shipper through and through, i’m not gonna pretend that it was okay because it wasn’t but I know some people who them and their friends genuinely play around like that. Of course, if both parties don’t consent, then it absolutely is not okay, no matter what genders the victim or the abuser is.
My thoughts exactly. It still boggles my mind how people blatantly ignore the faults of Sam and Freddie as a couple and their relationship history, and consider them to be the best when they are clearly not.
Yeah thanks, I hate the reboot, it's destroying my childhood series. It's not canon for me and for many others. I would love a reboot, IF all characters are included. But Jennette has a valid reason to don't participate. So if I would be in charge, I would just don’t do a reboot. It's not nescessary. Their adult live? That's not like iCarly felt. I would just leave the "KillerTunaJump" as an kinda ending. The rest is for the fans. NOTHING will ever get in the way of Sam and Freddies unique love. (And Cat and Robbies. They never get together either, what a shame).
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 Sorry, my comment is so long ago and my interest in iCarly is zero so I don’t have time to read that all lol
@@moiii_01 no one asked
It would have been great for the reboot of Sam came back. Who would he choose as an adult? But McCurdy has a valid reason to stay away. And put Freddie and Carly together isn’t so bad, at least they have a love triangle dynamic so it at least we’ll enough.
Actually Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 no one asked
@@moiii_01 years ago maybe, but things change all the time in sitcoms.
@@chrismayfield9240 the point is years ago up till now he keeps saying same. It's only logical 🤷🏽♀️
@@srrenityy8083 don't sound so burned😭 you'll get over it someday hopefully 🙃🤡
Sam and Freddie together made no sense no wonder Sam and Cat got canceled Carly and Freddie are meant to be together I’m so happy that Carly and Freddie are a official couple Carly and Freddie are each other’s true love and future husband and wife I was so bored watching Sam and Cat
"Sam and car"
@@JaxNovoa509 I meant Sam and cat the spell checker changed it to car lol
@@kristymichel792 I know. I just found that funny.
@@JaxNovoa509 ok lol it happens sometimes
I will always love these two the best 💜 I’m ok with Creddie happening in the reboot though I will have my Seddie ending left in Sam & Cat
If Jennette was on the show, it would still be Creddie cause literally no one in the cast shipped Seddie and they all would've been producers. Might have been a added dynamic of a love triangle just to add some tension and drama, but Creddie would've been endgame simply because Nathan though Seddie was weird, Jennette didn't like Seddie, Jerry prefers Creddie, and Miranda has been Creddie's number one superfan for over a decade now. 😂 With or without Jennette, what's happening now was going to happen.
I feel like the only one who wanted Seddie was Dan, and he has no involvement so...oh well.
Funny enough Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
seddie was always endgame bc of the sam and cat episode, because dan isn’t involved anymore producers are just giving fan demand and aren’t actually giving creddie a buildup
@@moiii_01 goofy 🤡
@@srrenityy8083because he asked her out for dinner? They're friends. Of course they're eating dinner and talk about the old times. Also it happened like 10 years ago. Things have changed. Even if Freddie went back to Sam again it doesn't matter they probably broke up cause after that he got his 2 marriages and got Millicent and then whole Love triangle thing with Carly, Pearl and Freddie, and then whole Creddie thing and then probably they're marriage.
Even if he got back to Sam together in Sam and Cat, it's still 10 years ago and a lot of things happened during the 10 years and above
@@Simbala-bq5vy if sam was in the revival (which is canceled now), their storyline wud be more continuous than creddies. they only put freddie n carly together now bc sam isn’t there anymore n they didn’t have any other choice
I'm sad
You need to know that Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 NO ONE ASKED KAREN !!
@@srrenityy8083 Calm down, pathetic Seddie fan.
@@JaxNovoa509 bud i wrote this comment almost a yr ago u seem like a grown adult so get a job instead of unnecessarily leaving dumb comments on ytb like this!!
@@srrenityy8083 Don't care. I reply to any comment no matter how many years they've been posted.
I will never understand how everyone ships Seddie honestly. They have no chemistry, and when they dated all they did was argue. They were toxic as hell...
i think u meant creddie 😘😘
Thank god somebody said it …
@@jiaralenas no i think i meant seddie.
@@nicoletravis8702 no we think you meant creddie
@@fayevinyl4596well they didn’t weirdo
*Oh Seddie shippers. Thank you for reminding me of how this world is going to ruin. Thank you for teaching us all that toxic and abusive relationships are totally the way to go. Thank you for being the reason why people (especially young people) end up in all sorts of dangerous situations because they listened to relationship advice from the likes of you. Thank you. Really. I appreciate it.* 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Okay but can u engage with the conversation for a little bit? Most reasonable Seddie shippers (yes there are crazies but that's true for any fandom) will agree that what they did with sam's character was wrong. The reasonable Seddie shippers will agree that the couple is a lot of potential that was wasted and done dirty. But the majority of Seddie shippers love it for the potential that was there, where Sam learns to develop and move beyond her violent ways and mature into herself as a young adult, and Freddie learns to grow a backbone and stops being scared of the world and is able to match sam's energy and passion.
Seddie fans aren't just out here praising abusive relationships, so please don't be unnecessarily reductive lol
@@dragonpaulz_ No. Negative. Everything you just said you have is not quite right or just straight up wrong. Sam doesn't develop and move beyond her violent ways at all. She just passes her violent nature onto Gibby. Since she can't abuse Freddie anymore (which she never truly stops, she still insults and demeans him while bossing him around and she said point blank that she still hits him just not in the face) she starts abusing Gibby instead. Did you forget that she attacked Gibby like a wild animal ripping out his hair, messing up his foot/leg to where he had to walk with a crutch, I believe cracking a rib and in the process of doing so also assaulted Spencer hitting him the nether region. And Freddie doesn't really grow a backbone because he continues to just take Sam's ridiculousness. Did you also forget how Sam ruined Freddie's whole future by sabotaging his camp thing? Something that would have gotten him into a great college and set him up for life to make all his dreams come true? She heartlessly ripped that away from him and it was because he didn't know what time it was. He lets her off the hook for that way too easily because Carly forces him to because "Who cares" she says. Who gives a flying you-know-what about Freddie's feelings, his dreams, his wants and needs. He has to forgive Sam just because Carly told him to. Even after she doesn't even actually apologize for it. Sam loves Freddie and wants forgiveness so he has to give it to her. Does that sound good to you? Don't sit there and tell me I'm being reductive when blind worshippers are literally overlooking all this horrible stuff. Potential? What potential? The potential to be a good couple if only Sam wasn't an abusive monster? That's not good, that's not a good risk to take on yourself. I know that because I've been abused. Hell Jeanette herself hates the Sam character and couldn't stand playing her. That says a lot. But there's obviously no convincing you guys. Clearly actually being in an abusive situation is the only way to understand this.
@@truthseeker9249 so it seems you didn't understand what I said lol I am agreeing with you. She doesn't develop or mature in any form, and that is a very blatant problem. I was merely talking about the potential that was never cashed in.
@@dragonpaulz_ Oh. Well. The only way there would have been potential is if Sam was different. Still had most of her personality but wasn't abusive. If she still picked on Freddie the whole show but not as horribly. If it really was just innocent teasing and petty bickering between the two of them and then her falling in love with him and dating him, that would have been really cute. Like if she was rude to him but never physically harmed him or did anything to seriously hurt him mentally things could have been different. It all boils down to Sam. Sorry for my emotions. Like I said I have been abused so I take this seriously. And other people really DO praise Sam and Freddie's relationship and actually defend or rationalize Sam's abusive actions. Either they don't know what abuse is or they love Sam so much as a character that they refuse to see her negative qualities. I see that all the time and I'm so sick of it. I thought you were doing that too. I'm sorry. 😔
@@truthseeker9249 don't worry lol I know there are some crazy ride or die overzealous Seddie fans. I just think they're a loud minority and that most Seddie fans wish that the potential of Seddie was actually what the show was able to tap into, but acknowledge never got there
The thing with Seddie is...
Was it important to the plot? Did it made a huge difference on the story and its characters?
Cause it didn't changed Freddies character. He wasn't getting mire comfortable. Sam was also the same she still treats him like trash. Also if they would have really supposed to be endgame. Why was Freddie asking Carly if its to late to fall in love with her?
It doesn't get mentioned at all. Seddie was just an idea. It was just for the fans while Creddie was for the plot, for the story. Also of Sam always loved Freddie. Why did she beat him up? Oh its because she likes him! Oh really? Then why didn't she beat Cort or that dude in season 1 or that where she change her whole personality just to be with him!? Also if she really had feelings for him, why did she said during the Webicon episode. "It's true Carly and Freddie are deeply in love"? And not "Its true, Freddie and I are dating"?
Im sorry but Seddie doesn't make sense at all. It would have worked if she actually developed and became less mean to Freddie not everything in one episode!
This video's title sickens me to no end.
SEDDIE IS ENDGAME
@@CoolThings123 No. Seddie is overrated.
@@CoolThings123 seddie was NEVER end-game. They couldn't even work out when they had the chance and needed 3rd party aid with their 24/7 non-compatibility much less how they even admitted they were forcing their connection to be romantic when it wasn't!
Bro you are on every Seddie video your like that one obsessed Freddie in icarly s3 ep 5
@@girlynamedavani I enjoyed countering people's ie seddie fans' falsely made up delusions whenever RUclips suggested them to me.
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I love Sam..but i always have & will be team CREDDIE..lol😅
Oh My God, same!!😊 I love Sam and I can still tell that she and Freddie weren't the right match for each other and Sam too could tell that Freddie never got over his feelings for Carly in iOpenARestaurant in Season 6 of the original and just as Nathan and Miranda said in recent interviews, I bet Sam would be so happy that Creddie finally got together 💓☺️
@@moiii_01 but carly never liked freddie in that way 💀💀 u need to rewatch the show fr
@@srrenityy8083 Or just watch the reboot series that had proven that to be false.
@@JaxNovoa509 the reboot ain’t even continuing anymore buddy
i still prefer seddie a lot more than creddie
I love how never in my entire icarly experience have se/ddies ever managed to debunk any of my arguments and they just change the topic to talk about ship dynamic. I guess being abusive is okay as long as you're a girl, right?
Seddie ship was a TOXIC relationship it was never going to last
Did Freddie lost hus v card with pocket?
yes yes yes
Just so you know, Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 they just said yes what is wrong with u bro
I don't know, this relationship was equally toxic as it was "showing chemistry" between them. As much as they looked Sexy, i know plenty of couples just like them that end up being in very toxic situations including myself. A couple like them would have been in a divorce, domestic abuse or even worse if this wasn't fiction. I know the opposites attracts thing if something people fetish over in these shows and stories, but realistically in the real world, fiction rarely works.
This is why the revival (not reboot) indirectly fixes this in s3e3, in hindsight, after we find out what Carly did to Freddie in Italy before Sam and Cat. So now we know why Freddie went back to Sam during Sam and Cat.
ruclips.net/video/wZDvoQFr5aU/видео.html
And this is also why the revival is successful with these two. Sam and Freddie were passionate, yet extremely toxic, where as Carly and Freddie look like complete soulmates. Freddie looks genuinely the happiest around Carly and we've never seen Carly look equally comfortable in a relationship until now. They're adults now, wiser, and with completely matured preferences, so them finding each other again after finding themselves as fully realized adults makes sense. There is no need to force complex feelings of love as children, most kids don't have that complex wisdom to make the right choices whenever it comes down to this.
Yes, in real life, this relationship would be toxic as hell but this isn’t real life it’s a TV show and form a TV show perspective in the original show Sam and Freddie were the more entertaining and compelling couple to watch and The chemistry between Nathan and Jeanette was also better that’s why they were the most popular pairing on iCarly during that time #Seddie
At the time, but not anymore.
@@LILM-zn7uyverything that occurs in canon is depending on the vision of the director and writers. Doesn't matter what the fans favor, or more like half the fans because the ship between Carly vs Sam was honestly closer to 50-50.
But at the end of the day, the creators chose to go with the more realistic pairing of Carly and Freddie and the writing now supports that. We now know why Freddie shows up in the Sam and Cat show, because of being "rejected" by Carly at Italy, prior to the Sam And Cat show. As much as we fans try to flip it, the writing works and it is what it is at this point. But we can't just claim that Freddie and Carly don't make sense because of this Sam and Cat moments, especially since we now know why Freddie went back to Sam. Heck, the revival show is already proving that fact wrong.
seddie is actually a very good couple, an amazing couple.
They honestly compliment each other perfectly. sams abusive behavior is explained by her rough upbringing. does she go too far? perhaps, but every time she goes too far she recognizes shes done wrong and makes it up in her own way. she actually goes through CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT which is a rarity in nickelodeon shows. she starts off as an angry, hateful, abusive preteen who, through the influence of carly, and most importantly freddie, calms down as she matures into a young adult and is able to control her violent urges.
Freddie, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. he starts off as a pushover lapdog who fawns over carly and would bend over backwards to please her. sam's influence is what makes him start to grow a backbone and stick up to himself, even growing to the point where he is standing up to his neurotic mother and even sam puckett on occasion. both characters bring out growth and positive qualities in each other while maintaining that great chemistry that left fans giggling every time they had a moment.
as for the abuse part of icarly, people need to learn what tropes are. it is an insanely popular trope for badass hardcore tough person to fall for the person she torments, but people act like this is something new and has never been done before. are her violent outburts sometimes more exaggerated and pronounced than they should be? maybe, but so is everything else in the show. it is, like said before, and exaggerated show with exaggerated characters. besides, nobody wants perfect characters to be with each other. both freddie and sam have flaws, are called out on their flaws, and overcome those flaws because of the other's influence. that is why this couple works beautifully and everyone was upset at how horribly nickelodeon handled the seddie arc.
It's sad to see just how blinded and delusional people are to think a relationship like Sam and Freddie is good. And to actually justify Sam's abuse to Freddie and later to Gibby because she's so evil she has to abuse someone.
I love the iCarly reboot and Creddie so I’m never ever gonna stop shipping Creddie no matter what Seddie shipper has to say. Creddie Forevie!
@@SashaMiller-r8n so happy for you! 😀
@ is that sarcastic I can’t tell if it’s thru comment
Seddie is Canon
Honestly, to me, Carly and Freddie getting together was *almost* as disrespectful as the obliteration of Shane and Angela from Boy Meets World in it's lesser than"reboot"
I don't get what you said but don't you dare to compare both situations 😅🤔😒
Creddie and Shawngela best couples btw!
Don't spread falsity just because you don't like the outcome of a situation, there is NO disrespect in the revival series at all, everything is continuing according to the original's plot..Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 ur honestly obsessed
@@srrenityy8083 no, they aren't. All they said was true facts
@@flx_res no they haven’t get ur ahh out of seddie vids 🤡💀
icarly reboot is cool and creddie is cool but we all know seddie was it
Nathan kress confirmed in an interview years ago even before Jennette stopped her acting career that Freddie was always to end up with Carly as he never stopped loving her and she too would realize her feelings for him as even the final episode had Freddie and Carly kiss, this revival directly continues on that..and seddie was just a fling that was entertaining and played out to please their fandom base a bit but they were too abusive and toxic and that fizzled out long ago as they were never meant to last and they never got back together after that break up in the original iCarly. In Sam and Cat, Nathan also confirmed Freddie never dated Sam again, they just met up for old times' sake and then he went back to Seattle and they knew better not to try dating again.
@@moiii_01 really ok send link to that interview becst want know how I know u just lied multiple. times the og show literally ended with seddie sam and cat literally brought seddie up again and had sam and Freddie saying they still had feelings for EACHother. and ha Zero mention of Carly or Freddie and they literally said I'm reboot if she did if they would see seddie conclusions
@@DemonDon432 Google is free. Help yourself to it, Nathan had the interview since back in 2015 after Sam and Cat ended. And in that episode Ms. Benson had clearly mentioned that Freddie still pined and looked at Carly's door missing her even. Just because Miranda/Carly didn't appear doesn't mean she was out of Freddie's life, mind you so you're the liar here.
@@DemonDon432 real cuz what the hell is this dude on
I can see why people ship these two and I really do respect that, but I can’t ship them after the small arc they had in the original show. That was such a toxic relationship and it was all played for laughs. Even when I was little it made me uncomfortable. There is also the fact that Sam was awful to him throughout the show. I wouldn’t want to go out with anyone who has ever treated me like that no matter how much they say they love me. Just my opinion though❤
I personally don't get why people even ship them in the first place. They aren't that great as a couple as they're claimed to be.
Don't break up I don't like it
And they replaced Sam with that chick, WHY?
What chick
Harper
Harper is literally her own character. Sam cannot be replaced. As we grow up, we meet new people. Harper is just a new friend for Carly. Sam will always be THE best friend.
@@ohpinkqueenthank you Exactly
🙄they did not replace Sam. Harper is unique in her own way and respect the actress Laci and keep that delusional toxicity away from her since y'all refuse to respect Jennette's personal decision as well!!
Are y’all really this dumb? It’s not like Freddie was in love with Carly since ever. Oh wait it is.
Saddie>>creddie
Creddie was always best in every way. Argue it anywhere, even the actors have always said and implied so.
@@moiii_01 seddie was the best in every way, they were tg longer than creddie was in the old show and had their own arc. cry about it 🤭
@@srrenityy8083 yeah suree they 'were tg' in arguesome toxicity and abuse 24/7 and barely lasted past even a day without Carly's help which they themselves had to ask for, lol. I wonder which year your fandom would finally wake up from your delusioning 🤡 Oh yeah and how you all keep subjecting Sam to be a second choice to Freddie who would choose and kiss Carly any day without a care about if Sam found out💀 what a 'love' that must be.
@@moiii_01 if u think love is about a girl rejecting a guy for 15 years straight only to support it by saying they’ve “matured”, then you’ve honestly never had a love life before. i’m not saying the abuse part was OK, but sam went through character development and as time went on she made fun of freddie less and less until they got into an actual relationship.
@@srrenityy8083 Sam was literally as good a SECOND CHOICE 💀😄😄😄(she even noticed herself) which Freddie would skip over to go kiss(and choose) Carly in a heartbeat yet y'all clamoring and still cooking excuse theories all for her to settle for LESS🤡 And yes, you sound like you truly have no idea what that is or means and I actually pity that.
ICARLY NICKEIODEON
SAM AND CAT EPISODES
He looks like he fell into an abusive friendship with same the same way he fell into a relationship the same way he fell out of it. 😅 mess!
I❤U