Matt Booty Opens Up On Bethesda Studio Closures... | Defining Duke, Episode 182

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
  • In a relatively slow week, we're able to settle into a major interview conducted by Variety with the one and only, Matt Booty. Sitting as Xbox Game Content and Studios President, Matt Booty was a major factor behind Xbox's decision to shut down four Bethesda studios. In the brand's third attempt to answer the deeper reasoning behind these closures, we get a few more breadcrumbs that leave room for assumption on the matter. Alongside that, Booty speaks on the Xbox exclusive situation with remains relatively unclear moving into the future. Plus more on Forza Horizon 4's delisting, Hellblade 2 initial sales, and more!
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    0:00:00 - Intro
    0:14:25 - Forza Horizon 4 being delisted
    0:24:43 - Avowed is fully playable in third person
    0:29:16 - Harvey Smith on Redfall’s final update
    0:32:07 - Xbox's statement on Black Myth Wukong
    0:39:24 - Bethesda Game Studios Montreal is unionizing
    0:44:52 - Hellblade 2 fails to crack top 100 sales in Europe
    0:53:49 - Disney Epic Mickey: Rebrushed release date
    0:57:20 - Katsuhiro Harada on why Soul Calibur disappeared
    1:10:26 - Jet Set Radio Remake leaks online
    1:17:55 - BioWare on Dragon Age Veilguard’s name change
    1:20:34 - What We’re Playing
    1:47:13 - Warm Up Question
    01:57:42 - Matt Booty interview with Variety
    02:43:06 - Game Pass Pick Of The Week
    02:51:40 - Ending Question
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Комментарии • 243

  • @nestorvoronych594
    @nestorvoronych594 6 дней назад +21

    Booty opens up is a wild episode name

  • @NahmOmar
    @NahmOmar 6 дней назад +56

    Matt Booty opens up is a wild way to start the title of the video 😂

  • @maxminy5634
    @maxminy5634 6 дней назад +20

    Matt Booty commenting about cadence is hilarious. He said the same thing last year. Honestly their cadence has been bad since 2021. They dropped fh5 and halo infinite too close together in 2021. While having nothing ready in 2022. 2023 they had hifi early (good), but redfall in may killed momentum. And starfield and forza m again released too close together. Only to leave a large gap until pretty much end of 2024. Only hellblade 2 came out in May. Next titles are sept or later.
    Cadence just hasn’t been good and games are still coming out unfinished.

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 5 дней назад +1

      @@CharityDiary Halo Infinite was good at launch, so was Forza Horizon 5
      Motorsport had a better online system than GT7 but not the players
      Hellblade 2 is more hellblade
      Hifi Rush was genuinely good
      Redfall, well that should've been cancelled
      Starfield was just ok, its better than Fallout 4 in every measurable manner. How you feel is subjective but the design didnt have that feeling

    • @LogicalError007
      @LogicalError007 2 дня назад +1

      ​@@CharityDiaryYour whole history is hating on Xbox. Bruh.

  • @Loopez2284
    @Loopez2284 8 дней назад +44

    Wu-Kong isn't exclusive because of PlayStation. It's a bit bizarre that there's this notion that even PlayStation locked this game. It's not even been advertised as a timed exclusive either.

    • @tiagocaseiro
      @tiagocaseiro 6 дней назад +4

      No one advertises a game as a timed exclusive.

    • @Loopez2284
      @Loopez2284 6 дней назад +27

      @tiagocaseiro FF7 originally did. Deathloop, Stalker 2 there's numerous especially in the small print.

    • @uchennaobi5985
      @uchennaobi5985 6 дней назад +8

      Nintendo said hello kitty is a timed exclusives. Xbox 360 had so many jrpgs timed exclusives by Microsoft.

    • @maxminy5634
      @maxminy5634 6 дней назад +22

      @@tiagocaseiroeveryone advertises it as a timed exclusive. If you paid for timed exclusive or marketing rights, you advertise it. Deathloop, Ghostwire Tokyo, ff7 remake/rebirth, ff16, kena, stray I can go on and on. If you don’t advertise it’s a timed exclusive, why bother paying for exclusivity.

    • @thejimd
      @thejimd 6 дней назад +20

      Some folks are willing to consider any crazy conspiracy rather than accepting the fact that perhaps MS put out an inadequate "next gen" console in the Series S.

  • @thepews1511
    @thepews1511 6 дней назад +19

    33:13 I'm much more inclined to believe Jez Corden asked a leading question over Sony made some secret shadow deal thats getting no marketing.
    When has anyone ever hidden a deal like this?
    1:07:54 As an FGC head hard hard hard disagree about unlocking character for many reasons.
    2:18:54 let's be fair Tango studio staff themselves denied this.

    • @LittleBobbyTV
      @LittleBobbyTV 5 дней назад +1

      Jez is also the person who started the rumor about there being a secret exclusivity deal.
      Sounds like they knew who was asking and told him something they knew he would spin to give them better PR and try to make Sony look worse.

    • @thepews1511
      @thepews1511 5 дней назад

      @@LittleBobbyTV Right let's not forget Jez himself continually says he is NOT a journalist he's a blogger his job isn't to investigate the truth it's to get clicks for Windows Central.
      This is an Xbox podcast so I didn't wanna say too much but I think Jez is intentionally trying to steer critique away from Xbox. Just like they were lying about the reason MvC2.

    • @LogicalError007
      @LogicalError007 2 дня назад

      He quited those things. Big Journalists dont manipulate quotes.

    • @thepews1511
      @thepews1511 2 дня назад

      @@LogicalError007 he himself says he's not a journalist. I'm also not saying he's misquoting them but he never quotes the question he asked.

  • @unkempthawk
    @unkempthawk 9 дней назад +13

    Regarding the Episode Number - last week actually was 181, RUclips has two episode 180s, the last two episodes. Sorry, but this actually seems to be 182. Thanks for all the great content!

    • @MrMattyPlays
      @MrMattyPlays 8 дней назад +12

      Yeah, I talked it out with Dustin on what happened. We have another story to tell on next week's episode which is, indeed, 183!

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 5 дней назад

      blink and you missed it

  • @PlayLaughLogan
    @PlayLaughLogan 5 дней назад +14

    Wukong is absolutely a case like BG3 where the timed exclusivity is a result of the Series S holding devs back. If there was a marketing deal then Sony would be slapping their logos all over the trailers and we wouldnt even know it was coming to xbox later.

    • @robf
      @robf 5 дней назад +5

      Yup Sony would be banging the exclusivity drum loudly and contractually. Feels like Series S BG3 energy on this on.

    • @PlayLaughLogan
      @PlayLaughLogan 5 дней назад +8

      @@robf BG3 wasn't even the only dev to speak out on it either. The Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 devs also stated they had to lower the scope of the sequel due to the Series S limitations. I think we're gonna see this happen more and more as devs start making truly next-gen games and if Microsoft continues forcing Series S and Series X feature parity.

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 5 дней назад +1

      no it isnt lol. we are seeing the laziest, no talent devs the industry has ever seen these days. they arent going to delay a game so the weaker console can be graphically feasible. you make sure it runs fine on the Series X and let the Series S version look like dogfood. we've seen that play time and time again. but every time a game gets delayed on xbox, its the series s is holding it back? makes no sense.

    • @PlayLaughLogan
      @PlayLaughLogan 5 дней назад +6

      @@isturbo1984 You don't understand that it isn't up to the devs. Microsoft themselves force things like feature parity onto them which means they can't let the series s versions just be dogshit lmao. The series s is also objectively underpowered so if devs don't specifically target it then it's harder to optimize games for it later.

    • @robf
      @robf 5 дней назад +6

      @@isturbo1984 I think if you're suggesting Game Science are 'lazy dev' you know absolutely nothing of the game development scene in China. There are many things you could say but lazy certainly isn't one.

  • @DanXcel
    @DanXcel 9 дней назад +54

    Why would people buy Hellblade 2 when it’s available on Gamepass? Hopefully the measure of success here isn’t sales because that would be unfair to any Xbox game launching on gamepass.
    Edit: Same logic applies to Hi-Fi Rush so poor sales is not a valid reason to close Tango.

    • @SamNewman1984
      @SamNewman1984 6 дней назад +2

      in music , they have a calculation of converting streams to sales. they may try to introduce something like that for gamepass

    • @maxminy5634
      @maxminy5634 6 дней назад +15

      Problem here is GP isn’t growing fast enough. If it was there would be no issue. But if GP doesn’t grow while you throw more content in and at the same time individual sales keep shrinking, the math just doesn’t add up anymore.
      Xbox GP makes essentially the same amount of revenue as ps plus. But GP is killing individual game sales. This is not a one off either. Only Xbox exclusive to actually sell decent this gen (and chart top 20 year end NPD) is starfield.
      Forza Motorsport, hellblade 2, hifi rush, Redfall, even halo infinite have been big commercial flops if you compare the sales generated from those titles alone.

    • @shelterfromcold8620
      @shelterfromcold8620 6 дней назад +1

      As a company, if relies on sales. People will be unemployed, no future games...etc.

    • @siciliangamer
      @siciliangamer 6 дней назад +3

      Xbox is and has been bad for gaming for years. They change strategy before the last one has been properly implemented and talented people lose their jobs.

    • @chris9206
      @chris9206 6 дней назад

      ​@@maxminy5634Gamepass was never going to grow that large and hold onto people. Most of the streaming services don't have that hold except for Amazon Prime and Netflix. At the same time Gamepass can't really compete compared to the competition on both fronts as console/handheld and PC, which that's excluding Mobile.

  • @JBrandonMercer123
    @JBrandonMercer123 5 дней назад +2

    It's not Dragon Age: Veilguard. That wouldn't be so bad. It's Dragon Age: The Veilguard. That extra "the" makes it sound so much worse.

  • @jeffsmith3818
    @jeffsmith3818 5 дней назад +4

    Michael Jackson thriller to Skyrim comparison really resonated to me

  • @SwooshJush83
    @SwooshJush83 6 дней назад +8

    Ayo that title lmao

  • @jorrellrichardson3181
    @jorrellrichardson3181 6 дней назад +6

    Cog I'm in my 30s and your definitely overthinking the kids game thing. A game is a game if you like it then play it. Disney is part of our childhoods it's ok to enjoy something childish. There are alot of great "kids" games.

  • @ChrisWTube
    @ChrisWTube 3 дня назад +1

    I’m still so disappointed we’ll never get an Evil Within 3

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae 2 дня назад

    Cog talking about destiny 2 reminds me of a kid reminiscing on the goldfish they had to flush

  • @dageekynerd2898
    @dageekynerd2898 4 дня назад +1

    I didn't expect Hellblade to sell despite the hype that ppl tried to give it saying it would be Xbox's God of War etc. But shouldn't we have heard about how many players by now, did it even chart in Xbox top 50 most played?

  • @MaxIronsThird
    @MaxIronsThird 4 дня назад +1

    The Black Myth Wukong thing is similar to Stellar Blade.
    It wasn't that close to launch but it ended up becoming full exclusivity.

    • @cragismunro8268
      @cragismunro8268 2 дня назад

      Also Sony buying up cut scenes for the new Sonic Shadow.

  • @illusivekennedy
    @illusivekennedy 5 дней назад +7

    I know you’re all not going to read this but Cog has a giant misunderstanding on what’s going on with Forza. First of all Forza doesn’t necessarily have “the biggest artists” it’s not like GTA or even Crazy Taxi. The thing Cog failed to realize in his own explanation which would’ve realized makes no sense….. if it’s a music issue they can patch out the song. That’s literally what GTA did with games like IV and V to some extent. And crazy taxi all games you used as examples
    Cog if you think the music industry is ruthless, you have no idea about the car industry. Those are the rights that are expiring licensing to use cars…. The basis for the entire game. Super cars and hyper cars come with a huge price tag, ontop of meeting conditions to even entertain the option of using the license. Toyota for instance won’t license to your game if your game involves street racing. Most hyper cars won’t license if you can fully mod their car. There’s a lot of hoops you gotta jump through to get these license, and Microsoft seems to only want to pay for 4 years ontop of that. You can’t really have your cool racing game if you lose the license to all the fun cars.

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 5 дней назад +1

      he regularly makes clown points. his perception of gamers, fans and the industry is all twisted.

  • @admiralalyssa
    @admiralalyssa 5 дней назад +1

    My response to the final question:
    1. Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
    2. Kiryu Kazuma (Yakuza/Like a Dragon)
    3. Dom Santiago (Gears of War)
    4. Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3)
    Honorable Mentions
    - Maruki San (Persona 5)
    - Alister (Dragon Age)
    -Leliana (Dragon Age)
    -Ichiban (Yakuza)
    - Big Daddy (Bioshock)
    - Nora (Fallout 4)
    - Red (Pokemon)
    - Majima (Yakuza)
    - Akiyama (Yakuza)
    - Saejima (Yakuza)
    - Seonhee (Yakuza)
    - Rikiya (Yakuza)
    - Marcus Phoenix (Gear of War)
    - Cpt. Price (MW classic)
    #TopDD

  • @3naruhina
    @3naruhina 8 дней назад +2

    Favorite Old school sports game ... 🎶N-B-A B-B-B-B-BALLERS!!!!" 😂

  • @OmansteveOPlaysGames
    @OmansteveOPlaysGames День назад

    I’m glad Cog is using the past year(s) info as context, so many convos around Tango and the other closures come off as people being purposely obtuse.

  • @Namistai25
    @Namistai25 8 дней назад +10

    Best open world?
    Skyrim

  • @DanielJ-00
    @DanielJ-00 8 дней назад +9

    In regard to best open worlds I think of Death Stranding and more recently Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. For DS, the world actually felt like a character in the story. The beautiful barrenness of it with other player mechanisms left for you to use all around was so amazing. For Rebirth, it was just so surreal seeing the og FF7 map recreated in such a beautiful fashion. Exploring it is such a fun time and I get side tracked from the main story plenty of times just wandering around.

    • @alexporto5669
      @alexporto5669 6 дней назад +2

      Very good examples, I agree

    • @OCMRick
      @OCMRick 6 дней назад +2

      Fewer experiences in gaming (since gen 3) have moved me in the way DS has when you're navigating a rocky valley/coming down mountainous slopes and Low Roar or Silent Poets kicks in.... 🥲

    • @thepews1511
      @thepews1511 6 дней назад +1

      So happy to see someone say rebirth absolutely. I scoured every inch of that map and each step was better than the last.

    • @daksans6764
      @daksans6764 4 дня назад

      ​@@thepews1511Rebirth is absolutely mediocre game

    • @thepews1511
      @thepews1511 4 дня назад

      @@daksans6764 lol 92 meta disagrees

  • @harrymcdowell2212
    @harrymcdowell2212 3 дня назад

    As a former member of the CWA union with AT&T just remember unions do not protect you from layoffs. Unions are great for other things but I hate this narrative that it’ll help with layoffs.
    It just guarantees you get a good severance package which Microsoft already does without a union…

  • @jorrellrichardson3181
    @jorrellrichardson3181 6 дней назад +2

    1:05:35 DOA 6 was worse than DOA 5 I hope it gets picked back up and they find their way.

  • @MaxIronsThird
    @MaxIronsThird 3 дня назад +1

    Johannes speaks english and Tango used UE4 for both Ghostwire Tokyo and Hi-Fi Rush, how can't they hire a couple more bilingual people to pass on the information and requests?
    There is also the time difference, but i don't think that factors in as much.

  • @chris9206
    @chris9206 5 дней назад

    This is the 6th time I have heard of Operation Darkness within 2 to 3 months. When will.Matty do a video on it? I'm curious since that was one of my 1st few 360 games back in the day and was my 1st Atlus game.

  • @ScaryPeet
    @ScaryPeet 6 дней назад +2

    It's funny because of the kid friendly game talk and here I am playing the Spyro Trilogy for the first time on Playstation and I'm 25.

    • @masonl2088
      @masonl2088 3 дня назад

      I need to go back and replay the sly Cooper games, those games molded me as a child

  • @arg_9584
    @arg_9584 6 дней назад +4

    The booty episode

  • @MaxIronsThird
    @MaxIronsThird 3 дня назад +1

    i think Xbox 360 store is only closing for games that aren't BC, it makes no sense to delist BC games, some of which MS had to re-license with the publisher.

  • @swenedog007
    @swenedog007 8 дней назад +1

    Loved the sacred symbols+ destiny episode Cog. You and Chris were fantastic.

  • @grizzlybearking1878
    @grizzlybearking1878 3 дня назад

    I read this as "Matt's booty opens up"💀

  • @prestonphillips473
    @prestonphillips473 5 дней назад +1

    Xbox buys tons of studios, Bethesda, Fallout, World of Warcraft, CoD, etc, and people are upset that Black Myth is ONLY delayed on Xbox while the games they recently bought could very well all be exclusive only.

  • @jermelpurse3018
    @jermelpurse3018 3 дня назад

    There is a reason why Xbox or Microsoft can’t come out and say those words about the studio closures it’s because of future studio purchases. If you come out until the open air about why your studio closed and how you plan to handle it you’ve given a future purchase and it could dissuade them from, going ahead with the deal. It might force them to charge you more to purchase their studio or it could even require that you put certain language in a contract that you would not have had to put in that contract. Had you kept your mouth shut. This is a business, this is not meeting with your friends in the basement to have fun. This is a business and it must be run like a business or you’ll look up one day and you won’t have a business.

  • @balaam_7087
    @balaam_7087 3 дня назад

    You’re a good host Matty, and Cog and you have a nice dynamic back and forth on most topics. I find myself playing on PlayStation the most out of the big 3, but DD is fast becoming my favorite of the 3 LSM podcasts regardless.

  • @legacy48X
    @legacy48X 4 дня назад +1

    Xbox fans will still believe whatever they. Wukong isn’t exclusive but it’s a great statement to shift blame.

  • @ukmaxi
    @ukmaxi 4 дня назад

    They could not make Arkane Austin independent since the HQ for Arkane itself is the original Lyon studio. It would not really make sense to have Arkane Austin still exist outside of Arkane Lyon/Zenimax/Xbox.

  • @MrRiceGuy95
    @MrRiceGuy95 2 дня назад

    I'm confused about Cogs reference to Skyrim, Demons Souls launched waaaaay before skyrim? Unless he is just referring to The Elderscrolls

  • @radrobb3530
    @radrobb3530 6 дней назад +4

    I think stellar Blade has one of the best worlds visually and functionally. Every area has meaning to the story and the platforming/puzzling and vistas are phenomenal. Dragon Age Inquisition also really stands out to me. Memorable places and plenty of leg room to exhaust curiosity.

    • @chris9206
      @chris9206 6 дней назад

      Stellar Blade might have that while the studio are huge fans of Neir Automata and it's not hidden at all. a lot of Neir fans like it while it's own overall identity didn't outshine it.

  • @JBrandonMercer123
    @JBrandonMercer123 5 дней назад +1

    I think Cog gets it.

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae 3 дня назад +1

    Glad the Todd Howard /Bethesda stuff has subsided for now lol

  • @bigbotzone
    @bigbotzone 4 дня назад

    I got a message saying thank you for supporting forza 4, here is a key since it will no longer be available in the store. I guess they are giving it to people who played it a lot on gamepass.

  • @ChrisWTube
    @ChrisWTube 6 дней назад +1

    I’d like the first couple of Soul Calibur games to be relisted on the xbox store

  • @sleepngnight
    @sleepngnight 5 дней назад +3

    It's not a music licensing problem, it's a car licensing problem. Since they use all real cars, and the makers of those cars own the copyright of the cars.
    Car games have to pay for those licensing deals, and have to follow specific obligations to use those cars. Like I believe to use Toyota cars, a game cannot allow illegal street racing.

    • @Synathidy
      @Synathidy 4 дня назад

      Well, then I guess someone at Toyota messed up and missed the illegal street racing in a few Need for Speed games, as well as Forza Horizon 4, which I was happy to recently discover has illegal street racing. Toyota cars are in these games, among many other brands.
      Frankly, it would be an odd financial decision to NOT want a videogame to advertise your car brand by making it look awesome doing sensationalized things like street racing. Being a goody two-shoes in videogames is lame. People don't get enthused for car brands by doing lame things with them in videogames.

  • @spacechannelfiver
    @spacechannelfiver 6 дней назад

    Loving how Cog opens up waxing lyrical about a Playstation game; but not gonna lie i'm literally hoovering up map icons with it; new new patch on PC just got it running so nice. The first inFAMOUS just got me scratching around the map in the same way; and more recently Cyberpunk. AC Brotherhood is the only other thing I think that got me 100% map completing.

  • @matthewbarrios1028
    @matthewbarrios1028 4 дня назад

    I am about to be 40 and I love Lego games, all the Mario games and I loved Illusion Island because I played the old mickey games as a kid on SNES and Genesis.

  • @LaztstaNd
    @LaztstaNd 6 дней назад +1

    There's no way they're going to make everything exclusive forever anymore, maybe 3-5 years at best, but on the other hand, it makes no sense to put all their games on PS5/Switch 2 day one.
    There's just no logical reason to do so and commit to that time frame, when for the most part, it's wayyyyy better for them to pick and choose a date for when to release a game on other platforms, when you're not beholden to a day one release and possibly set it up against another big game/Sony or Nintendo 1st party exclusives.
    Besides you release Starfield on PS, 3 years after release, with 2 expansions and a third one on the way, dropping the same day as the PS release, how many sales are they really going to lose on that one? If people really want it, they'll buy it whenever it comes.

  • @Stoned_apeTheory22
    @Stoned_apeTheory22 4 дня назад

    Something on the bottom of Cog's cup, and its buggin me out.

  • @rafegraves1453
    @rafegraves1453 5 дней назад +3

    Demon Souls came out nearly 3 years before Skyrim. 10:45
    Maybe he meant Oblivion? Or just ES in general? Idk

  • @DankerTVTimeCapsule
    @DankerTVTimeCapsule 5 дней назад

    i noticed the misnumbering. i even dropped a comment in the video comments. However whoever written the title to this one has skipped the numbering and gone to 182.

  • @Loopez2284
    @Loopez2284 9 дней назад +3

    Timestamps? :c

  • @Echo__plex
    @Echo__plex 6 дней назад +7

    Matt Booty is that guy that everyone knows should have been fired but keeps getting promoted for no reason at all. The dude has been spewing the same nonsense about release cadence for years now.
    I will continue to remain skeptical until they start to consistently deliver high quality first party titles without massive gaps.

    • @turokken
      @turokken 5 дней назад +2

      What's wild is they absorbed TWO big publishers, the 2nd of which being the 6th largest Publisher in the industry (by revenue)..... they couldn't have found a replacement within those entities to replace this worthless corpo??
      Who was Bobby Kotic's right hand man? Go get *that guy* to replace Matt Booty. Activision got their games out!

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 5 дней назад

      Xbox's problem is the pump and dump, or shotgun blast approach
      Forza Motorsport released 2 months after Starfield which would've been better to release a month or later to fix some issues, Then Motorsport beginning of this year which would be a few months before Hellblade 2
      We have the exact same games release but spread out a bit more
      Remember 2022 that had Grounded and Pentiment, if xbox delayed Halo Infinite 2-3 months into the start of 2022 instead of 1 month after Forza Horizon 5, guess what seems good again doesnt
      Same for the end of this year, CoD, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Age of Mythology, Flight Sim 2024, third party exclusive like Stalker 2 and the Starfield Expansion which for BGS previous expansions are full on game length. EXCUSE ME thats all coming this year and we already in July
      The problem is that they dont plan releases to make sense

  • @jermelpurse3018
    @jermelpurse3018 2 дня назад

    Matty that was not a miscommunication you had Phil Spencer saying hey we have more games that are going to be going to other platforms that is fine and acceptable to say on a separate note. You have another company executive saying to you just so we’re clear don’t think going to another platform. You will have many games that will be exclusive. It is a two-part statement designed to let you know a few things one don’t get it in your head that everything will be exclusive and don’t think we’re abandoning. The concept of exclusives a company can do both. PlayStation is the perfect example. Look at how often game is released on their main platform of choice and then sometime later that same game is released on PC now we are not we know it is possible to release that game on his initial launch date on PC and the Sony platform of choice. Sony intentionally chooses not to. Convenient way to get a double bite at the apple. Because some of the games win released, you just have to play right then right there cough up your $70 and then if you’re a PC nerd some of my coworkers want the ultimate edition on your PC for the best of the best when it comes to graphics. So you knowlimited quantity of people cough up in additional $70 not a lot but it’s enough for them to justify this sales strategy. I will even imagine that they probably do have their development team. Focus purely on the platform of choice version of the game and then after the first launch, they focus on DLC and the PC.

  • @mou6854
    @mou6854 6 дней назад

    Gene said Oblivion on ilp Cog 😅

  • @joellutz4235
    @joellutz4235 6 дней назад

    Clearly Matty has yet to experience “Honey I Shrunk the kids”. Had a cartoon and everything

  • @hanes2
    @hanes2 6 дней назад

    Missed a Blink182 joke somewhere.

  • @PeopleCallMeQ
    @PeopleCallMeQ 6 дней назад

    starfield would have been really unenjoyable for me without 3rd person. Having both made me actually appreciate both

    • @Ray-dl5mp
      @Ray-dl5mp 5 дней назад

      Yes I think the game combat wise plays better first person but I didn’t try the 3rd person much. I will say though that the game did show me why people wanted Cyberpunk to have the option. The ability to see your character jumping around is awesome whenever you feel like it.

  • @coreyc830
    @coreyc830 5 дней назад +1

    Wasnt only Shinji mikami who left Tango,, Nakamura also left she left as well all the leadership left and John Johannes and his young career isn't fit to lead a studio.. I said this long ago that it wasn't because of the sales of the game or results of the product it was about the state of the studios and the leadership I was told that long ago I left that in the comments on many a RUclips channels nobody believed to me... same thing with Arcane most of the studio had left in Harvey was the only one there they had no leadership and they weren't set up for Success going forward that was obvious because they were still pitching two years after their last project both Studios clearly they weren't set up for success and it probably wasn't easy to run a Japan Studio from Seattle Washington so yeah I'm not mad about the closures at all we were going to get was dog shit game after dog shit game going forward out of those Studios unless they hired them up and they probably couldn't afford to do that at the moment ..they were opening other Studios and doing other things.. they were partnering with other Studios and opening other Studios

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 5 дней назад +1

      you got it backwards. its called early warning lifeboats while the crew working in the bowls go down with the ship.

  • @cragismunro8268
    @cragismunro8268 2 дня назад

    Hellblade 2 is a digital game & Microsoft don't release sale figures for there store fronts. So just Steam sales I guess?

  • @Jon-eo1lz
    @Jon-eo1lz 9 дней назад

    Fighting game unlocks: World Tour Mode in Street Fighter Alpha 3. Playing through that…what? Guile’s in this game?! You unlock characters that weren’t even in the arcade? Who else is in this game? Games actually let you earn things for free by playing them.

  • @DetroitsReaper
    @DetroitsReaper 2 дня назад

    Clash of ninja is GameCube and wii not 360 lol Matt meant rise of the ninja

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae 2 дня назад

    To confirm for cog … YES LEFT 4 dead 2 is back compar and it’s the best way to play left 4 dead outside of pc mods

  • @TheMightySilverback_
    @TheMightySilverback_ 8 дней назад +1

    I think Gene is misremembering regarding Oblivion (not Skyrim) and Demon Souls. We have plenty of early development based interviews on the topic with Miyazaki himself, Kings Field and Wizardry were the inspirations, nothing to do with Oblivion, an interview back in the day had interviewer write in "it's like Elder Scrolls" but it was not from Fromsoft or Miyazaki himself.

    • @daksans6764
      @daksans6764 4 дня назад

      Miyazaki has tendency to copy Bethesda games

    • @TheMightySilverback_
      @TheMightySilverback_ 2 дня назад

      @@daksans6764 lol good one.

    • @daksans6764
      @daksans6764 2 дня назад

      @@TheMightySilverback_ Bethesda is really influential

    • @TheMightySilverback_
      @TheMightySilverback_ 2 дня назад

      @@daksans6764 That doesn't mean that they originated their style nor does it mean they influenced Miyazaki lol.
      I can cite Miyazaki saying Wizardry and Kings Field as the origins, can you cite him saying anything about a Bethesda game?
      Which game do you think had an influence and why?
      You can't just say they copied something without providing some kinda substance, or you can but it'd make you an idiot.

    • @daksans6764
      @daksans6764 2 дня назад

      @@TheMightySilverback_ Maybe Miyazaki is huge Bethesda fan. I mean exploration in Elden Ring seems to be inspired by a Bethesda game like Skyrim or even going way back like Oblivion and Morrowind

  • @guybrushthreepwood8174
    @guybrushthreepwood8174 5 дней назад

    i think its pretty clear that Forza Horizon is a service game. i view the diff entries in the service as basically expansions or DLCs at this point. you get a brand new huge map and activities, but i've felt that since FH2, its BASICALLY been the same game, so i don't really see the problem with the delisting. but that's just how i play FH's. I play the new one for like 40-100 hours, then i put it down until the next one comes out.

  • @notimportant8643
    @notimportant8643 3 дня назад

    1:34:18 I thought Bayle was awesome. My only issue with the dlc was the final boss otherwise everything else was great

  • @HaloReachAr0und
    @HaloReachAr0und 4 дня назад

    Unionization will be the death of the games industry games were better with crunch this is facts.

  • @capedcrusader318
    @capedcrusader318 5 дней назад

    i dont have my disc for the original Forza Horizon anymore and it bums me out pretty regularly. To Matty's point, the map was THE draw for me. I don't need any of the licensed music. I wasn't there for that, and I'm a music guy. No Horizon since has captured me the same way. I have a similar issue with Skate 2, can't buy it and 3's map just doesn't hit the same.

  • @imo098765
    @imo098765 5 дней назад

    Sorry. Matty its not that hard they gave answers
    Why did you close those studios?
    Phil: I need to run a sustainable business, so close down the unsustainable ones or move them to a team they can help(Zenimax Online)
    Booty: Leadership, talent available and success. So close the ones that arent setup for success
    well redfall flopped, prey flopped, all of tangos games were mid successes and they had multiple heads leave, mikami-san and ikumi lady of ghostwire and rumours say staff went with both of them to their new studios. Arkane Austin hemorrhaged staff with 80-90% of the people who helped on dishonored 1 and prey all left
    So the horror studio, lost the leads and devs that made the horror games
    The im-sim studio lost 90% of the people who made the im-sim games
    They answered very clearly, they didnt make money and the people who could turn this around are gone

  • @jermelpurse3018
    @jermelpurse3018 5 дней назад

    Artificial price increase I don’t think you guys studied economics well enough supplying demand, gentleman, supply, and demand when that store closes the supply, which is theoretically infinite now shrinks to a very specific level demand does not change but supply does decreases that means price goes up.

  • @_Meatball_
    @_Meatball_ 8 дней назад +2

    There’s something really special when Cog talks about a game he’s excited about. Can’t wait to dive into Still Wakes the Deep this weekend! Great show, dudes!🫡 #TopDD

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae 2 дня назад

    I tried playing some Lego games recently ….. idk if it’s cuz I was alone or eyes but man was it boring. I started with the Star Wars ones back in ps2 I own many of them dc villains to Harry Potter to the incredibles …. They all have the same charm but seem to be missing that “umph “ that it seems they finally found around the latest Star Wars entry imo

  • @harrymcdowell2212
    @harrymcdowell2212 3 дня назад

    Can you not just but the physical copy of horizon 4 used…. It’s not like all those copies disappear just because the digital version gets delisted… people and their fear mongering

  • @uchennaobi5985
    @uchennaobi5985 6 дней назад +5

    Xbox 360 had so many jrpgs timed exclusives by Microsoft. They kinda started these,7 remake was Sony actually first paid timed exclusive from a third party. That game came out 2020.

    • @nc630
      @nc630 5 дней назад

      Why are you lying? Did Sony not pay for Street Fighter 5? Paid exclusives was Sonys entire model against Sega with the PS1 and 2

  • @Keyawnce
    @Keyawnce 5 дней назад

    You think bayles bad, wait till you get to the final boss LMAOOO

    • @Keyawnce
      @Keyawnce 5 дней назад

      You’re not beating that without going online LMAOO

  • @xbotLife
    @xbotLife 6 дней назад

    Matty can say what he wants but shadow of the erdtree will not win GOTY because it is DLC! I’ll check back in when it gets bypassed for a nomination 😁

  • @xman777b
    @xman777b 6 дней назад +16

    Microsoft immediately axing the Forza Horizon 4 DLC without any warning whatsoever, and continuing to list the game until December, is deliberate extortion to make gamers cave, and purchase the $100 'Ultimate Edition'

    • @siciliangamer
      @siciliangamer 6 дней назад +7

      Xbox is bad for the industry and has been for years.

    • @jimcarrey2866
      @jimcarrey2866 6 дней назад

      digital future man

    • @TheBBOYkickass
      @TheBBOYkickass 6 дней назад +2

      There is no extortion. It's on sale on Steam for 80% off right now and July 14 if will be on sale on Xbox.

    • @xman777b
      @xman777b 6 дней назад

      @@TheBBOYkickass ok Phil.

    • @MajerHawk
      @MajerHawk 5 дней назад +1

      Why was this glazed over? Cog was way off base with this one. The game will essentially be gone. Unless you get the disc version which will increase in price. Why can’t they release a patch?

  • @-Sparagmos-
    @-Sparagmos- 5 дней назад

    Exclusivity is total cancer. If you’re gonna put barriers for me to play your game, I’d rather just skip it.

  • @captainmaverick712
    @captainmaverick712 6 дней назад +1

    Are we really still talking about those studio closures?

  • @mrigamer7084
    @mrigamer7084 5 дней назад

    Unionizing will be the final nail in the coffin for the gaming industry.

    • @Deytookourjurrrs
      @Deytookourjurrrs День назад

      What? What coffin the industry is literally booming 172B across all platforms and 34B is from PC

  • @gondotheslayer
    @gondotheslayer 5 дней назад

    Matty thats wild. skyrims map layout is better than oblivion but worse than fallout 4, morrowind probably has the best of the elderscrolls games, fallout 4 is my favoirite layout.

  • @radrobb3530
    @radrobb3530 6 дней назад

    Much love to the elden ring lovers but damn y'all never shut up about it lol. Again, not for me and nothing against it, but man it comes up soooooooooooo much lol. I suppose that's the best I can do since it's been good for the industry. *Sigh* success is annoying sometimes 🤣

    • @radrobb3530
      @radrobb3530 6 дней назад

      Funny enough, I go hard bringing up Stellar Blade IRL to anyone that listens lol so I'm not innocent whatsoever 😎

  • @AlexCaste
    @AlexCaste 3 дня назад +1

    Matty & Cog: those games are usually just called, Family Friendly games. It isn't that hard. Cog, just admit that you are not interested in family friendly style games.

  • @somedude1324
    @somedude1324 4 дня назад

    The disrespect matty has for the Breathe of the Wild games is unacceptable!

  • @KrytopsyX
    @KrytopsyX 5 дней назад

    Defending Microsoft Xbox wasn't something I saw coming, licensing always been a thing but now it's just that consumers have direct access to the store inventory and listing directly with those digital stores per se.
    If you went to a physical store and you didn't find the game you wanted to buy, you would just exit the store or ask if they could order it for you. Nowadays with digital storefronts, you expect the game to be always there, always in stock, always available for you to purchase and you expect said store to continuously pay for the physical space it occupies in the store or server even if it doesn't make business sense and they end up paying more money than they are making because of it.
    You have so much higher expectations to the point that it goes directly against the laws in regards to licensing.
    That being said, where are we going from now? If you can't change the law, you can work around the licensing by removing said licensed content out of the game but that means dev time and dev time has a cost. How many people would buy said game after all the devs worked out the licensing out of the game? If gamers aren't welling to pay for those games, who should pay?
    In a perfect world, everybody would be in good financial conditions to afford paying the devs to push out a version without licensed contents to make the game last forever but you also get the problem of having to support multiples systems that will come and go as they age and become less available too.
    It's a multilayered issue, when you have to decide where it starts making sense and when it doesn't anymore to support those games, especially if gamers just talk and not act on their words.

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 5 дней назад

      really? have you ever seen a video with Corporate Cog? thats his nickname for a reason. if you want to know the answer to any question coming his way, ask yourself two things: is it about a mega corporation or 2) does is it have anything to do with de.i? if the answer is yes to either, his answer is obvious.

  • @jermelpurse3018
    @jermelpurse3018 3 дня назад

    Microsoft finally realized the truth and it’s a truth. None of us have been willing to utter out loud. They won’t crack the Japanese market that’s it. It’s not happening, not in the traditional manner that will not happen so let that go. Don’t waste money trying to do so it won’t happen. If you wanna know how bad it is in Japan for Xbox if sales in Japan jumped 500% guess what they would still be abysmal. If sales in Japan jumped 10% they would barely be noticeable. It’s a market to penetrate not through traditional measures not with game studios not with systems and platforms that’s not happening so it’s foolish for them to waste money trying to do so. They thought they could’ve done it several generations ago and you know what they did. They put out the Japanese games on their platform and guess what the Japanese customers did they bought PlayStation they said this is where I grew up. This is where I can find Final Fantasy this is what I will buyand that’s it. You can’t recover from that. It’s a market they will never get into traditional means so don’t waste the money. We don’t have money to waste.

  • @OCMRick
    @OCMRick 6 дней назад +1

    I get the license issues of some games but FH4 is not one of them. There's really no excuse, given the first party nature of it, that they couldn't patch out/over the particular problem area (should be negligible time and effort) .
    I'll guess music, as apparel is minimal and most cars feature again in FH5, so just take the track/s out and sell as V2 with a bit of a disclaimer on the game page in the store. Yeah it's not your newest version but it's a different flavour to 5, some prefer it and in either case it regularly shows in most popular on gamepass and sales. Strange decision.

    • @sleepngnight
      @sleepngnight 5 дней назад +1

      It's not a music licensing problem, it's a car licensing problem. Since they use all real cars, and the makers of those cars own the copyright of the cars.
      Car games have to pay for those licensing deals, and have to follow specific obligations to use those cars. Like I believe to use Toyota cars, a game cannot allow illegal street racing.

    • @OCMRick
      @OCMRick 5 дней назад

      @@sleepngnight If true, it has to be a really small percentage given most of them show up again in 5. Either way, the solution would be the same and I think any minor costs would be more than offset by future profits

  • @dylantortosa7678
    @dylantortosa7678 5 дней назад

    I'm almost 29 Dukes and I still play Lego titles. I think those games are truly timeless and are wonderful to playthrough..nothing wrong with that!

  • @TheScarecrow78
    @TheScarecrow78 5 дней назад

    Still Wakes the Deep is GREAT! I played it through the other night and loved it. The voice acting is indeed some of the best Ive ever seen. Also Cog TY for recommending Yakuza: Like a Dragon! I thought it was amazing!

  • @ReMeNissioNs-ic3jz
    @ReMeNissioNs-ic3jz 5 дней назад

    Miyazaki banished us to the shadow realm, and people out here acting surprised this dlc is a nut buster lol.

  • @MdrnGmngScks
    @MdrnGmngScks 5 дней назад

    One point Cog pointed out about cadence: I dont think Avowed and AssCreed being close to each other is a problem as they are totally different audiences. AssCreed is more mainstream sort of action game while Avowed is more of a competitor to Dragon Age, and I would absolutely choose Avowed over Veilguard as Obsidian always produces bangers, while it feels Bioware has been on a downward trajectory since they botched the Mass Effect 3 ending (Andromeda and Anthem being absolute disasters), and personally for Dragon Age, I only ever enjoyed the first one, 2 was awful and Inquisition I know had its fans but it didnt grab me.

  • @somethingyouhave
    @somethingyouhave 6 дней назад

    Why wouldn’t you get Grounded as a show? It’s inspired by a live action production already.

    • @EvernhamNo9
      @EvernhamNo9 6 дней назад +1

      You just answered your own question

    • @somethingyouhave
      @somethingyouhave 5 дней назад

      @@EvernhamNo9 as if nobody has ever made a similarly themed piece of media? Why make Avowed when Skyrim exists? The Honey movies are like 30 years old, and if you can just tell a slightly novel angle on a shrunken person story, you’re good to go. The proof of concept is there in non interactive media. And the concept was proven to not be stale with the game, Grounded. Pull on some 90s nostalgia (or whenever Grounded is set) and it could work really well.

  • @persies4397
    @persies4397 5 дней назад

    I didn't play it when it came out but I really don't understand how Control was such a flop. Played the base game and all the DLC recently on Gamepass and it was really enjoyable imo.
    Also dude I remember thinking it was so cool that each system had their own special character back in the Soul Calibur 2 days. The game was incredible back then and now it's just disappeared, crazy.

  • @MrNikoSrb
    @MrNikoSrb 5 дней назад +1

    Wasn't Matty saying stupid stuff like Elden Ring is easy but he summons? like of course, it's easier when you summon man.

  • @Thifurious
    @Thifurious 4 дня назад

    Yeah, I'm not giving Jez the benefit of the doubt that he didn't ask a leading question. Dude is as fanboy a journalist as they come lol. It's kind of pathetic, looking at his tweets.

  • @coreyc830
    @coreyc830 6 дней назад

    Plenty of people bought hell-blade 2 but I think it comes down to it was a short game and when you have a short game on Game Pass people just beat it on Game Pass but there's plenty of people who purchased it maybe not Millions but I don't think it was ever supposed to be that I think it was just a short game and that's the explanation.. I saw hundreds of streamers playing at who bought it on Steam

  • @johnguymer8063
    @johnguymer8063 6 дней назад +4

    Down vote cause of ridiculous amount of ads

  • @coreyc830
    @coreyc830 6 дней назад +2

    The game preservation conversation is disingenuous because PlayStation discs are just paperweights you have to DRM online verify the game just like every other platform same thing with Xbox but at least if you buy the game with Xbox you could play it until Jesus comes back you can play it until your kids kids kids kids die if you like a game buy it and you will have it forever with Xbox licenses run out every Force has been the listed since the beginning of the series this is nothing new conversation around it is so disingenuous just by the fucking game and you'll never lose it I don't know if people on Twitter are just dumb or are willfully ignorant.. and Cog is wrong it's not the music or not just the music it's the car manufacturer licensing that's really what it is that's why it's that game specifically

    • @SwiftGuyver.
      @SwiftGuyver. 5 дней назад +3

      The vast majority of PS4/PS5 discs contain a full build of the game and can be installed and played completely offline. There’s literally groups like DoesItPlay testing this stuff. So far there’s only been a small handful of PS5 discs that are glorified coasters (Jedi Survivor & Hogwarts Legacy immediately come to mind). Xbox has more of a problem with their Series X physical library due to them still using 50gb discs instead of 100gb like PS5.

  • @brandonscott3423
    @brandonscott3423 6 дней назад

    We need Lego Batman 2 remastered it’s my favorite Lego game

  • @Captain_Neckbeard
    @Captain_Neckbeard 3 дня назад

    Thank God Demon's Souls plays nothing like Skyrim. Skyrim plays like shit.

  • @isturbo1984
    @isturbo1984 5 дней назад +4

    Black Myth Wukong. Went from me buying it day one full price to support the devs pushing back against toxic industry standards... just for them to jump into yet another annoying industry trend. Officially downgraded to waiting for a sale. Again, i have tons of games to play. I don't need this on day one.

    • @michaellewis6005
      @michaellewis6005 5 дней назад +5

      Lol

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 5 дней назад

      @@michaellewis6005 "to support the devs pushing back against toxic industry standards." this. this is what is making you melt down. i have said something along these lines on many videos. this channel is the only one with the weird copes. you arent going to make me buy it full price. no, you just consume. you. me, i'll continue to speak with my wallet as the industry collapses, thanks.

    • @michaellewis6005
      @michaellewis6005 5 дней назад +1

      @@isturbo1984 lmao

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 4 дня назад

      @@michaellewis6005 still not buying at full price. lmao

    • @michaellewis6005
      @michaellewis6005 3 дня назад

      @@isturbo1984 👍

  • @peattisma1489
    @peattisma1489 6 дней назад

    gaming is a business, sometimes tough decisions need to be made to close studios down but Matt Booty needs to stfu... isnt there anyone at MS to tell him to stfu???