Klay’s Gone, CP3 & Wemby, and More NBA Free Agency Reactions | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Kevin Wildes react to various NBA free agency moves.
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"Well, that's not the answer I wanted to hear but I appreciate your honesty" - Steph Curry 🤣
Such beautiful comedic timing with his delivery 😂
Clicked immediately when I saw that WIldes was a guest.
Im not familiar with him. Is he a writer? Hes got a podcast too or...?
@@enterpassword3313 Also an Influencer and a Gentleman. Wildes does it all.😄😄😄
He knows less basketball than nephew Kyle
He's not very knowledgeable. He's just a pseudo comedic take sports guy. He's entertaining.
@@QuestionEverything562 Very few are actually knowledgeable- even less are entertaining.
if westbrook is the answer then you are asking the wrong questions
Wildes looks like dollar store Matt Damon and I mean that as a compliment
If Matt Damon and Willem Dafoe had a kid…
Klay is a Dallas Maverick!!!
you broke the story to me lol
Terrible move, Klay is cooked
Sooooo ....
Is GS getting Josh Green? Or the pu pu platter of Grimes + Powell + Exum?
If it's Green, are we sure Klay is better than Josh Green?
Why does Lebron get to compete every year?? He doesn’t! The media just pretend he does
lakers haven’t been competitive since the bubble let’s be honest 🤷🏽♂️ the media just loves to spin that bron narrative cause it generates clicks
@@Biggaveli413bro they were in the WCF a couple years ago. I’m not saying they’re title contenders, but don’t suggest they’re not competitive lmao
@@VerbeekTruther if making it to the WCF is “competitive” to you then congrats young man
@@Biggaveli413I'm 34 and getting to the WCF definitely means that team was competitive 😅 and to be completely real the Lakers could have beat any team in the west besides Nuggets and Dallas in thr playoffs in my opinion
@@Biggaveli413you mean when they made the WCF last year they weren’t competitive? One of the final four teams, not competing eh, care to elaborate how that works
Does this mean we get Wemby in State Farm commercials? Maybe Cliff Paul and Hector Wembanyama?
And Chris Paul in HEB commercials
One of the best guests ever oh man I’m so
Happy
32:36 Does Bill not know that Tony Parker played for Charlotte?
Its better to pretend that never happened
Tony got paid 😂 can't blame him for that move that nobody remembers
Cant blame him, that was very forgettable
Just about to post this
I'm pretty die-hard NBA. I must admit I forgot about that myself lol
Mike Dunleavy never had the makings of a varsity GM.
Mike D was dealt a tough hand. Bob Myers bailed bc he knew what would have to be done.
He's not a war time Consigliere.
Bill Simmons has to have the lowest ears in the world
Weird that another man is commenting on another man's body part , sans competitive body building & pro athletes being in & outta shape
@@notoriousLSGshow you are looking for youtube comments to get mad enough to reply to
Draymond Green needs to go, too. He’s a net negative most games. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
I like Wildes with Simmons. They are a good conversational match.
"Why didnt they just keep Dillingham?" If they kept the pick they werent drafting Dillingham. Its not like they drafted Dillingham and then said ah good deal lets trade him now. Dillingham is a Klutch client. Spurs not getting in that business.
Idk why they're so upset about it. All these analysts made it very clear that this was a weak draft. And next year is supposed to be much better. Spurs have Atlanta's first round along with their own. On top of Charlotte and Chicago's lottery protected first rounds. They can't keep all these draft picks so why would they invest resources into the 8th pick in a weak draft? Especially after they already got the guy they wanted.
Bill still testy about the Warriors beating the Celtics in the Finals.
*** menstruating , fixed it for ya
I'd rather have Castle and two future good Minnesota picks than Dillingham and Castle. The Spurs won the draft. Minnesota is happy but Pop has set up the Spurs to create a dynasty.
I'll tell you why it's a bummer. It's a bummer because there's something special about a player that plays his entire career with one team. It doesn't happen often and when it does it's special, especially when you won four titles with that team.
I love the nick Wright dig 😂😂
When dod it happen in the pod?
@Kodreanu23 forgot the time stamp but when bill kept digging at "why we gotta pretend lebrons not the gm" and wildes had the same smirk he does on FTF when someone calls out LeBron on there
The West is so wide open. I would rank it as Thunder, Minnesota, Dallas, Denver, Phoenix, Clippers, Memphis, New Orleans, Houston, Lakers, Sacremento, Golden State, San Antonio, Utah, Portland. Outside of the top 4, the rest could go any direction.
Phoenix and Clippers are too high.... They're fighting for play in spots
Warriors are in a better position than most teams you listed only the thunder,nuggets,wolves,dallas,and grizzlies better. Maybe San Antonio as a dark horse.
New Orleans a head of the lakers
@@MrMoraltv never have the Pels have been ahead of the Lakers since the AD trade.... Now they have a dysfunctional team with no centers, an injury prone franchise player, another disgruntled star who wants to leave out your door as soon as the 1st chance comes...
That's ahead of the Lakers.... You're joking 😂😂😂
"Charlotte is coming back." Dude they were never here!
They're coming back next season ...to play... Not necessarily to win😂
It would have been criminally if the Warriors kept Chris Paul and Paid Him $30M next season.
Lakers 14th?! They drafted Bronny James, Bill!
If I were a Lakers season ticket holder I'd be offended.
You do realize most 2nd round picks don’t even make the team so why are u mad
@@ayeepexxtv5854the problem is this 2nd round pick is going to make the team
That means they’re too high or too low. Cuz theres no way a second round pick affects the lakers in either direction
Bill Simmons will be talking next year about how Bronny and LeBron played a trick on the NBA to get him to the Lakers. About how Bronny purposely played below his skill level to get to Los Angeles in the second round and how LeBron was playing chess to be the first father and son team ever to win a championship.
Draymond is why this is happening to the Warriors.
1. Dray “we won before you, we’ll win after you.”
2. Dray “I want my extension”
3. Dray punch out Poole
Nah they whiffed on their #2 draft pick and decided to keep their kids instead of tracking all of them for real help. Front office has been absolutely atrocious.
he was right about #1 & #2
I’ll never understand the admiration for him. He’s a lackluster basketball player that was fortunate to land on a club that wants him to run from the ball (on offense)
@@Chalk89 casual fan take if that's what you think of Draymond. His antics are awful, but he's a generational defender and out of any player has the BEST chemistry with Steph
@@brandonyee4119 yes, because he doesn’t have to contribute offensively. It’s really not a difficult concept to comprehend. If he was placed on a team that needed him to be a second scorer - is that team going to be good? Absolutely not. He’s a one-dimensional player. If that offends you, maybe your bias is too strong.
80 seconds in, a Cocktail reference?
Fuck yes!
yall are saying Giannis is on the outside looking in because his team had an off year.... The problem is Giannis has missed the last two playoffs. If he is healthy... they will be just fine.
I used to not like Kevin, but he is awesome with Bill
They need to rip the bandaid and trade curry while he has value. I saw the same thing with Kobe, extended him and he had a 2 year farewell tour. It was sad to see.
After cp3 leaves, he can get traded to San Antonio to replace him
Everyone talks about next year's draft. Build continuity but I wouldn't want leaps in wins hoping to luck up in 25 draft then go hard afterwards. My guess on SAS thinking
Bill forgetting Tony Parker didn’t play his last season in San Antonio…
Yeah unfortunately it was so weird to see him in a hornet’s jersey
@wavedgoblin it was weird to see him got to Charlotte because he wanted to "compete"
Yeah as a spurs fan that one really hurt, but now we get our payback by getting cp3 for his last season
saying lebron is the smartest player is laughable. He has some bbball smarts out there no doubt, but bird, jordan, duncan, stockton, jokic, ginobili, etc are easily a whole tier or two ahead of lebron basketball smarts wise. Lebron has some IQ and infinite athletic ability and more performance enhancers than 20 players put together. Stop with the high IQ stuff. Its laughable, he sees the court well, big deal.
God this is so hard to listen to. Comparing signing Chris Paul for 1 year to what the rockets did is crazy. Spurs have 7 picks in 2025. They can trade up for whoever they want. They don’t care where they end up next year, they just want internal improvement.
Agreed. The only logic here is not Chris Paul as a player, it's Chris Paul as a teacher, veteran leadership, showing young players how to make winning plays with brains and not athleticism. For a young group that makes sense because you are right, they don't give an F about wins next year.
Bill, Tony Parker played in Charlotte.
Lebron literally gave a list apparently lol. Jonas Valencunas was on the list lol.
Utah is going to take advantage of that Zach LaVine thing and get a load of picks back for Markkanen.
Warriors paid the tax 8 years in a row..since the 2016-2017 season
I assume Draymond is going to be "locked in".
Yeah right.
Steph doesn't get the world moved to contend every year because he doesn't franchise hop. He could have done so and be reviled as much as LeBron is. (Reminder: people loved leBron until The Decision.)
Steph had no need to franchise hop because he had a competent organization. Lebron had to leave Cleveland he would’ve never won shit
Steph is going to the Lakers
@@KK-pm7ud a) why would he do that and b) how can the Lakers afford it? Their resources are pretty much used up.
@@misinfluence
That explains the first but not the second and thirds times.
Alternatively, you could just call it lucky for GSW. They draft Steph, Klay and Draymond, none of which has the hallmarks of a future HoFer. Curry was 7th, Klay was 11th and Dray was 2nd round: 35th. (Dray was probably only drafted at all because Izzo probably called in favors.) And early on people thought Curry would be a health bust.
Maybe, just maybe, it's because he was on a team with multiple other Hall of Famers, genius. You don't have to franchise hop when you're playing with Klay, Draymond, KD, etc. Curry has been spoiled; he has been surrounded by great players since he was on his rookie deal. He had no reason to leave, or else i guarantee he would have. Lebron's best teammates before leaving CLE, meanwhile, was Mo Williams. Context matters.
Critical thinking really isn't that difficult, I promise....
Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan, Deni, Ayton, Walker/Murray/Camara/Rupert, trade Rob Williams, Jerami Grant and Anfernee Simons next year, and the Blazers are gonna be a fun ass team.
Whole lotta mid, 25 wins max
Take away "fun" and that's your team.
they are definitely gonna be one of the teams in the league 👍🏽
Simons is the only known quantity though. And he can be excellent as a second option
@@tedforsstromjacobsson4160third option. He is mikes below Jamal Murray, Dame, or Tyrese Maxey
Lebron was willing to take less money, problem was Klay was willing to take less money too. LOL
What a timing 😂
Klay to Dallas is on the same level as MJ to the Wizards. In 20 years, we won’t count it as part of his legacy, cuz his career is practically over
Denver can’t lose KCP without adding anyone and still be a title contender
Yea but if CB can step in u think it'll be a drop off from kcp? It will hurt the depth of they don't make a move imo
name me 1 nba dynasty that didn't end ugly with at least one of the main pieces ending up on a team they had no real reason to be on. Jordan on the Wizards, Scottie on the blazers, Tony Parker on the hornets, Wade in chicago, Pierce on the nets. it always ends ugly.
How did the Bill Russell Celtics end? I had the impression that they all just rode off into the sunset.
Didn't go back to Boston for years because of the racism he experienced while he lived in the city.
Actually Steph would cry if they built affordable housing in the city
Lol yea Mr BLM crying like 🐕 bcuz govt dare build affordable housing near his mega million compound
I don't feel bad for teams with a great legacy to live on. The Warriors have lost all sympathy. LBJ should coach The Olympics as well. Do they test coaches for PED's?
National treasure Kevin Wildes should be on every podcast really. And yes, I’m a KW burner account
Love wildes. Does a great job. But bill why do you have Embiid at 6. Curry ant Durant Brunsun AD all better last year then Embiid. Guy played less than half of the games last season. Tatum has more playoff games in the last 2 seasons then Embiid played last year. I have him at 13 and there is a strong case for both book and Jaylen to be in top 10. You need to put lebron in an emeritus type role. Hes above the list at this point. He’s still the most important player in the nba. Not the best but def most important.
Bill, Tony Parker played his final year in Charlotte. Bro, you’re really slipping. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
Tony parker played in charlotte
Ive never been so happy to see two white guys talking basketball in my life
OKC was not that close to beating Dallas. You just don't want to accept being wrong about that series.
Warriors wanted to get out of the tax. They did it.
They did not mention Markkenen to the Warriors. That would change their place in the West.
I did not think we would see the day the greatest shooting backcourt in history broke up to play on separate teams. 😢
20:25 that's Russ' biggest problem. He has no ability to tell when is Russ time and when isn't
Tony Parker moved too 😂 . Come on Bill , how much research did you do 🤏🏿 ?
Problem with Russ will always be his scoring. Shoot 7% below league average in TS and take the third most shots on your team, per 100. possessions. Also averages the most turnovers on the team per 100 (4.6).
That contributed to the third highest usage rate on the team (25.1%) behind Goerge (26.6%) & Kawhi (25.5%).
Can't expect to win games when you let a player as inefficient as he is, get so many opportunities with the ball.
If you went ahead and made one of turnovers a true shooting attempts & normalized to the league average 58.0 TS% with Russ's attempts last year. That would account for a three point difference in net rating for those 68 games Westbrook played in.
To try and put that difference in perspective. Net rating of Thunder (7.3), Wolves (6.3), Nuggets (5.5), Clippers (3.4), Rockets (0.9), Lakers (0.6). That doesn't even begin to account for the spacing problems of having him on the court with other non shooting bigs.
You get that with declining defense. As DPM hasn't viewed Russ as a positive defender, since at least 2021.
His raw on/off numbers are somewhat positive (+1.8). So, maybe he gives your team some value in unseen ways. However, could just be noise. And, I don't think the math works or makes sense for Russ to be on your team & still be a legit contender.
I feel like this puts into words why Russ is a net negative player. I don’t watch a ton of NBA anymore but when I watched the Clippers I would see exactly what you described. Russ driving the lane and maybe gets a foul or makes a layup followed by 2 missed jump shots from him.
@@jasonl7937 I watched him a few times this season. First thing that comes to mind is a game where he missed a few layups I thought he should have made.
Don't recall him having much issue getting to the rim. Despite his age. This with his passing is where he provides value on offense.
It's just not enough. Plus, it dries up in the playoffs once teams focus on scheming against your offense. Instead, of scheming to win during the regular season.
Regular season stats:
22 MPG
11ppg/51%TS
4.5AST/2.1TO
In their only playoff series against Dallas - where I assume the lone big cheated of Russ - ...
19MPG
6.3PPG/33.4%TS
1.7AST/1.7TO
Was better in lone previous season playoff series. But, still below regular season numbers (50%TS, sub 2.0 AST/TO ratio). Hence why the Clippers are interested in trading. Very interested I would imagine.
Excellent analysis - much appreciated
Incredible timing
What happend, Klay went to the Mavs?
@@naughtiusmaximus110yes
Warriors were in the second round not play in in 2023 Bill
6:18...no Bill, they actually lost in the semis to the Lakers. And LeBron.
Small thing, Bill, Tony Parker did have that year with the Charlotte Hornets.
Tony Parker played his last season in Charlotte - not a one team guy.
No kcp means no finals for nuggets...we gotta stop pretending like ant isn’t him okc doesn't have shai and mavs don't have luka..whose denver putting on those guys when they get hot
Klay becomes BIG WORM...if ya don't Bill..it's about the PRINCIPALITY of it...yet it's business...let's talk about business and emotions...in Klays case I HOPE HE makes them pay even though the 3 is less than the 4..hence BIG WORM LOOK IT UP ..
Wilde’s best question kept getting ignored by Bill. And also shows why Bill is a brilliant media member, has great NBA knowledge, and would be the #1 WORST DISASTER of an NBA exec if he ever had the chance: “How would you sell this Steph?” He had no answer other than logic and things you do not say to an NBA superstar (and make him feel disrespected) if you wanted to keep him. Bill’s complete dismissal of the handling of ego’s make wonderful talking points AND totally removed from the reality of the situation.
You say any of that to Steph and he would go, “You weren’t here. I don’t owe you anything. And the fans would want me to be happy after I tell them what you just said and how you said it.” And I doubt Steph would leave, but Bill would be gone and mocked appropriately for his interpersonal skills.
Warriors either got to get another All-Star to add with Steph & Draymond, try to win another Championship this year or next year or Blow up the roster and try to compete in a title in the next 3 years or so. Blowup the entire Roster and go with the young players on the team and grow with them (Kuminga, Podzimski & TJD). Trade Steph to Charlotte Hornets for LaMelo Ball, Brandon Miller and Draft picks, trade Draymond to Detroit Pistons for young players and a draft pick, trade Andrew Wiggins anywhere for a good quality starter. Try to compete for a title for the 2027, 2028 Season.
Amazing show:
1) Bill calling BS on Lebron “not running”the Lakers
2) Russ Westbrook is known for being a hard worker yet is bad on defense. What??? I’ve thought this for years. Russ doesn’t play winning basketball, and it feels like it’s his strong will or obstinacy that is to blame.
3) Eighth grade girls????!! 😂
Milwaukee Bucks need to go in reset mode and Blow up the Roster. 2028 Champion possibly?Bucks aren't beating Boston, Philadelphia or New York next season (2025). Trade Giannis to Golden State to teamup with Steph Curry & Draymond, trade Damian Lillard to Lakers to team up with Lebron James & Anthony Davis.
Hi Bill. I have loved your take for more than 20 years, reading your articles and recently your videos/poddies, but you need more complimentary partners. I would almost like your partner to only talk occasionally and feed you a decent question and you tell us more of your oppinion. We tune in for you and your thoughts. Couldn't care less about the others and especially when they "disagree" with you. So the best interaction today was Kev bring up the olympics... but need more of you after "chills down my spine". And can you some how bring "light myself on fire" from text to talk? I used to love that when you wrote it. PS. I don't think you need to drop so many F bombs which I heard in another video, it loses its impact.
Guys age and injurys have an effect on physical performance. If I were a GM I wouold keep that in mind, if I wanted a ring. Now if relationships were more important, as they should be, then I would give the gold thing to Everyone for not giving up. Oh the money thing as well.
"How come LeBron gets to compete for a championship every year? Why can't I? Why do I have to take these huge gap years?"
Because LeBron isn't on the team that drafted him. Plus LeBron has had 3 gap years with the Lakers and it would have been 4 if he didn't beat you in the 2nd round.
I hope the Nuggets don't listen to Joker. Joker wants Russ, that's not a good move at all. Your team IQ gets lower, your shooting gets worse, and your defense drops off too. Great star players are almost never great team evaluators/GMs. Only the great Jerry West has been the exception really.
LeBron is such a smart player that he knows working the refs is more productive than running back on D & not constantly leaving his guys in 4 on 5 situations. A 1000+ more FTA's for the Lakers than their opponents shows his genius?
Bill, Golden State made it to the second round of the playoffs in 2023. They lost to the Lakers. I’m surprised that you forgot that. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
As a Spurs fan, I really hope the Spurs win 30 games. This 2025 draft class is too good to pass up. I don't want them to do anything crazy, but a high pick + Atlanta's pick could go a long way.
This is a great convo w/ these 2 - KW is good on FTF but def has more depth & critical thinking takes w/ BS - this was one of the few hours+ vids I watched straight thru on Utube - good stuff & much appreciated
Mavs is 100%vbette then OKC What is your problem with Luka? You used to like Luka and he just come from the finales + they getting stronger, Whatsapp whit you and Luka?
Tbh i dont think the warriors are in . Too bad of a place even without klay. Podz Moody Davis in my opinion are all solid nba role players who are ready to play. If they can get solid vets that are like 24 to 27 for a few years im sure they could get another stsr whod want to play with curry even if hes old the shooting wont go away imo
The Warriors need to trade everyone except Steph, get way under the cap, and get a top draft pick and hit the free agent market in 25. They are not winning this year. And LaBron competes for a title every year because he has changed teams multiple times. If you want to stay with the same team your entire career, you are going to go through a rebuild at some point.
Bill if you were the lead sports anchor at Fox and Fox wanted to extend you but your co-star was up in the air and you said i really want rusillo or shannon sharpe and i'll take less money if you can get me one of those guys does that mean you run fox? or is it simply you're trying to help your employer put together the best show possible and are willing to consider creative ways to do so.
Why do people think Klay Thomas wants to play with Lebron James? He should hate Lebron after all these years. Why would he want to help him get another ring? He wants more rings than Lebron.
If I was Steph,I would want to change teams. Put me in position where I can win. Him staying with Warriors for the next 5 years doesn't change much. Let him go somwhere where he can win
Play to the mavs. Dallas is slowly getting deep and the d is on point too.
Bill..... If that happened to your Celtics and they tried to do that with Jason you know damn good and well what he'd say so don't pretend that it would be okay if they did that to Steph.
In 2020 They played miami... yawn
Loaded squad. Rondo howard jr .. bubble ring team was solid
I thought CP AND Thompson would have been perfect for San Antonio if SA wouldn't have to give up anything.
Tony parker played with charlotte
Did this guy just get out of bed? He couldn’t comb his hair for this?
The bucks had injuries in 2022..khris didn't play vs boston in any of the 7 games otherwise they make the finals that year....the nuggets using that as an excuse to why they lost game 7 up 20 is a joke with all their guys active....
The Bucks 21' title looks more like a fluke every season that goes by. So many injuries helped them to get to the Finals. Kyrie and Harden getting hurt and hobbled, then Trae going out.
I feel like the NBA needs a hard cap. I really hate this luxury tax nonsense
Hard Cap & regulate salaries for nba players first two contracts. (6-8 years). Similar to what MLB does.
@@aaronpeters6209 I mean hard cap on team salaries. More of the way the NFL does it.
@@levantz I agree. Just want a caveat that would allow teams who draft well to be rewarded for doing so.
If the Lakers start slow yes the reason will be tired legs from the Olympics. Or the excuse….
Why in TF would Derrick white replace kawhi Leonard on the Olympic team
White would be a nobody if he wasn’t on the Celtics.
Mavs issue were shooting, not defense. If mavs roleplayers shot avg they beat celtics
If LeBron has a chance to compete every year is because he's been on several teams, not one team like Curry
They didnt loose in the playoff game last year......they actually won a series
32:36 Tony Parker played in Charlotte unfortunately so he doesn’t count as a lifer
Tony Parker played a season for the Hornets
Just pay them and tank. You have to spend money anyway. Cheap out somewhere else. 1:41
Nuggets and Thunder have the 2 best players in the West, not Nuggets and Mavs
A healthy Luka is still slightly more valuable than a healthy SGA.
@@Riles3152 Shai finished 2nd in MVP, 3rd in most clutch and 7th in DPOY. He's an elite two way player.
But I can't hate on you for your take
Wildes hair is jacked
Sexy cowlick..... it's a new look. Didn't you hear about this???
Jaylen brown and Wembanyama are way better than Brunson and Mitchell.