What school did you go too? I’ve NEVER seen any communal showers in any American school. My high school had 1 private shower that was only for athletes after their games I’m pretty sure the school would get sued for making children get naked in front of each other and shower together
Grim i dont know where in the US you are but in Illinois we had communal showers yes we were forced to get naked in front of eachother. Yes it sucked uncomfortable you basically took a 1 minute quick shower. No one sued that im aware. In some private schools in the 50s they used to swim naked too. crazy i know
@@TheGrimStride I moved around a lot when I was a teenager and every single high school and middle school I went to had communal showers. Did you go to a private school? I'm shocked that you've never seen them
Bob Lanz that’s so weird. Maybe part of it has to do with how old the school is and if it has ever been renovated. Like how can you even take a shower before the next class starts anyway? 1 minute does nothing. We would just use a sweat towel and cologne
Yeah, it’s still a thing but like nobody takes a shower. We have the option to but for sports like wrestling you are required but most people just kinda pee in them
@@TheGrimStride It's not illegal for kids to take a shower. They have to get changed in there too so it makes sense that there would be a shower if they need to clean off. I went to 4 different high schools (most on the west coast but one in Minnesota) and they all had communal showers. It wasn't ever a requirement that you use it but if people complained about your smell you'd usually get sent there during lunch or something to take one in private
I had a community shower in my high school in Georgia, wasn't required but there was a good chance you could be the only one in there since most people didn't like the idea of it
Yup communal showers are a thing in US schools. And I always thought the coach was pennywise luring the kid into the shower. He was already a bunch of the other town's people.
@@TheGrimStride I think almost every school in the US have showers. But maybe many have stalls now. Ours had a communal shower room, which was inside the gym locker room. And no one ever insisted on taking showers, they were usually used by students in sport teams if they wanted to use it.
I’ve never met someone my age who had a communal shower in their school or were forced to take a shower and I live in America. My dad said they had to shower together and he was shocked that I didn’t have to and for some reason thought I should have had to. I have no idea why he was so adamant about that. Like this makes you a man to shower with other naked kids, maybe it’s so you’re not self conscious about your little wiener and you see that everyone had a little wiener too. Except for that one kid who got held back 3 times and had a huge bush and a giant shlong hanging out. Hahaha
From America - I went to public schools, and our locker rooms did have showers in them. That said, they were almost never used, and certainly no one was up anyone's ass about taking a shower. We used to make jokes about how back in the day people must have showered together, so maybe this was a thing in the 80s?
So the kids part of the book and this movie was set in the 1950s... when this communal showering thing happened. Yeah it doesn’t happen now but this movie isn’t set in the now (or the 80s or 70s). It’s accurate for the time.
Prince Albert is both a kind of tobacco and also, an actual (deceased) prince. The joke plays on the double meaning of having Prince Albert in a can. If your thoughts immediately ran to male genital piercings, then something might be wrong with you.
@@bobsickle2336 I can understand how - to younger people - they wouldn't immediately connect this joke to a royal historical figure or a type of tobacco. However, they would know or have heard about the slang term for getting your penis pierced. I think it's a little ignorant and prudish to chalk it up to something being "wrong" with CaptainSoggyDog here, rather it's a generational or societal misunderstanding. Like the difference between technological or computer terms and their original, traditional meanings - if one is not used to this usage of vocabulary in this context, their minds will go to different destinations than what's actually being conferred. I suppose an easy - if not totally illustrative example would be the word 'Tablet'. This misunderstanding just happens to do with getting your penis stabbed so that you can stick metal into it for decorative and tactile purpo- ... on second though yeah, it sounds kinda weird, I admit but it's a phenomenon that's relatively well-known though only a small amount of people do it.
I assume the "Prince Albert in a can" joke was from Stephen King's childhood in the 1950s, when the earlier part of the book is set. Presumably some viewers in the 80s got the reference, but by now it's a very obscure historical thing.
I’m 38 and yes it was a creepy movie as a kid. Very well done for a TV movie in 1990. It’s funny when you can tell the special effects as time passes on.
I know this is 2 years old but this was a TV movie? I saw it on TV but it freaked me out so bad that I stayed away and figured it was theatrical. Mind 💥
I'm 42 now so we are probably the same age and yes, this movie was a big deal to kids our age back then. It was terrifying and everyone talked about it. I rented that double tape VHS many times and couldn't bring myself to watch it alone.
In my high school in the UK we did have a showers but it was a small area connected to the PE changing room. We never used it and I forgot the reason the teacher gave but it had probably never been in use.
At my high school in Australia back in the late 80's and early 90's, there were those communal shower rooms separated by a wall from the rest of the changing room. Yes we were forced to shower after every PE lesson (at least in year 7 to 9)
I was at high school in Australia during the 80s, and we did have one PE teacher who came in and decided we should all shower after PE class. Obviously for kids not used to it (most of us) it was traumatising. Man, I did not want to have to see my friends' genitals. I have a feeling the forced showering petered out after a while - I guess parents complained.
I, to this day, cannot watch the original IT. I can't even look or listen to Tim Curry as Pennywise. He completely did me in. I was completely traumatized as a child watching this. What was my mother thinking! SMH, lol.
Same. Saw the first half hour of part one at a children's party, when I was about 10, birthday girl asked her mum to rent ET, but instead got IT. (How the hell, do you mess that up?) So that was fun.
The slingshot and battery acid are from the book and I was really pissed that they left them out of the new version. The slingshot is one of Bev's Big Badass Moments ("Bev's Big BMs" for short): They get some silver slugs for ammo (because they reason that silver works on werewolves so it should work on It) and they practise with the weapon beforehand to see who's best with it. Turns out Bev is by far the best shot, so she is the one who wields the slingshot when they go after Pennywise as kids, and she gets to fuck him up with it, smashing a hole through his skull. Whereas in the new movie Bev is turned into a typical damsel in distress and gets bugger all to do other than be rescued. And the inhaler works as battery acid because their belief in it makes the stuff melt a hole in Pennywise's face. On the other hand, beating the clown up with sticks and crowbars isn't about belief, it's more about working together as a group, so still a decent message, just different from the original one.
Class of '96 in an American High School, we had communal shower in the locker rooms. They looked similar to the shower from one of those Resident Evil movies. No shower heads on the outer walls. Great video, Grab That Gem you guys, not somebody else whilst in a communal shower.
If we could get a Bad Boys 1 and/or 2 Caravan of Garbage before Oscar contender Bad Boys For Life, it'd be much appreciated number-one-party-boy Nick and the-host-of-the-podcast James?
Glad to see this getting the kicking it deserves. I got tired of people saying Chapter 1 isn't as good as this one. Kept saying "Are you sure? When's the last time you watched it? Because I think it's just you childhood memories making it scarier and better than it was".
American here, went to high school from 1997-2001, while there were showers in the gym, we never once were asked to shower or told we had to. What I can say is that shows like this terrified me because being naked in front of my wife is scary let alone being naked in front of people I could barely stand! What I will say about the scariness factor is that you would have HAD to have watched this back then, either as a kid or an adult, because movies these days are all about gore and shit when the fear from this was entirely cerebral. I’d be interested to know if maybe gym/recess was longer and that’s why they had kids shower back in the day. Great vid boys, cheers!
@@dreamlandnightmare but it would help you mentally face your fears, think logically and I would take that chance if a pipe and bat did have an impact.
After they leave town, they all slowly forget everything that happens there. When the 27 years ends, they only come back because Mike, who never left, gives them the call.
Since the kid scenes were set in the 1950's in the miniseries, yes kids absolutely had to shower after gym class. My mom had horror stories about being bullied by the other girls in those showers. There was a pretty awful post-gym shower scene near the start of Carrie, too.
For a future caravan of garbage video, could you two possibly cover whatever that Marvel comic is where characters from every Earth based superhero team get turned into Hulks (I think it's called Fall of Hulks, Hulked Out Heroes and World War Hulks in some order)?
@@hellojari07 in all honesty the way I remembered it existed was that I was looking through images of X-Men characters and I randomly found one of a comic strip image of Cyclops and Iceman just fighting each other... as Hulks and then I realised I had seen a video about when just about every hero on Earth getting Hulk powers.
Yes, American schools have showers in locker rooms. But we typically only use them after sports practice after achool, not after an hour long gym class lol
This was a great one guys! I love them all but this one made me laugh a lot. I too enjoy the relentless beating given to Pennywise by the kids in the 2017 film 😂
Oh part 1 is miles better than the part 1 remake. It's just generally better in most every way. The literal film quality is significantly worse, but that's about it. Better acting. More realistic characters and problems. Better focus and payoff. More thematic. Way better pacing (minus those flashbacks). And the way it cuts away from the violence is a better technique, which is why effectively everyone who saw it remembers moments like the little girl and Georgie. Twenty years from now not a soul will remember the remake. No one will praise the visuals because cgi will be better. And people won't like the ending where they beat IT with a bat because that's very stupid.
@@cemarz The part 1 remake does a better job of been more faithful to the book and it wasn’t held back due to been a theatrical release so it didn’t have to tone it down
Here’s the thing. Pennywise is supposed to lure you to your death by being a fun, silly clown who seems friendly. Tim Curry did that. The new Pennywise is so creepy and weird, I wouldn’t go near him. If he talked to me, I’d go home, pack my doo-rag, tie it on a stick and leave town. So, on the one hand, new Pennywise is more scary but on the other, he’d never fool anyone. He looks scary off jump.
EXACTLY. one of the things about pennywise clown form is how some things scare kids but not adults, like if a kid saw a clown like pennywise and was terrified and told an adult the adult might say, "stop being silly" or "grow up, theres nothing to be afraid of" -thats the point of all clowns, there unpredictably. New pennywise is very predictable. Hes obviously not human, and he obviously is evil. It takes him from being a creepy clown to just being another monster.
TheBd62 so true. The whole “clowns are scary” belief became popular in the 80s. Not when the movie takes place. People did not fear clowns back then. They were funny and entertained children. Which is why the contrast of a murderous, monstrous clown worked so well.
@@PaperMario64 yup. People point out how John Wayne Gasey was a real life creepy clown, but forget that actual people hired that man to work actual children's parties! And no one was the wiser.
@@PaperMario64 also the way they beat pennywise in the new movie spoils the second movie. If you can just beat him up with regular kid strength as long as one believe and arnt afraid, its obviously the lack of fear that weakens IT. In the old movie, the kids thought he had a weakness to silver, and so when silver doesnt work the second time they dont no what to do. In the new one there no placebo crutch for them to lean on. which is another obvious point from the book lost.
Rose Red is my favorite of the "classic" Stephen King adaptations. I love it so much I had to give it a googs so I didn't accidently say a Pierce Brown novel.
We had a shower in my junior high and high school, but NO ONE used them because it was weird. Maybe if you were on the basketball or football team and actually got dirty, but after phys ed class, absolutely no one used the showers, and it was never brought up by the teachers as something we should have been doing.
Watched this as a kid when it first aired and it scared the shit out of me. That scene where It comes up out of the drain had me terrified of drains for months!
Eleven Teen the new IT movies are far superior. The child actors alone make the films better. IT from 1990 aged terribly because it was sadly made for TV but older movies aged better than this corny movie
Yung_Grouch the thing here is that the new movie is modern while the older one was older. The new one was trying soooo hard to be scary with the jump scares and the clown. The clown was not meant to be scary. If you ask a lot of people of that time, the 1990 miniseries scared them
Ill never forget the first time I, as a seven year old, read my way through IT with a dictionary on hand for context. I’ll also never forget how confused I was at the inclusion of the child orgy just before the Pennywise fight. Not about what was happening or why, messy childhood and all, just that the Editors and Publishers would let this scene stay in.
They did it when my dad went to school and my high school had them but we never used them. I think they started phasing out showers in 90s/early 2000's
American guy here. Yes, showers at high school are a real thing but only after P.E. or sports practice and it's always optional. It was fine. Surprisingly, there was no genital shaming, that I was witness to at least.
Hahaha OMG. The main character pony tail. What if it wasn't what Stephen King looked like at the time, but what he thought was cool and didnt have the confidence to try. It's funny in a mean yet interesting way.
And honestly. I completely misinterpreted Caravan of Garbage when you two started. Totally thought you were making fun of garbage. But in actuality you guys are nerds like me. And this shit is great.
I was in 4th grade when this came out and unbeknownst to my parents I “taped it” off of TV with our “VCR”. I have a soft spot for it as an early gateway to horror, which I still love. Showed it to my 5th grade son, he was 50/50 nervous and bored by it. I am HYPED for Chapter 2!
Communal showers are definitely a thing. I was on the wrestling team and they had us all shower after practice so we didn't get ringworm. Our coach would blast the Rocky soundtrack any time we were in the locker room. The 3rd or 4th song however is a love song. It was always uncomfortable when we didn't shower off fast enough and we would have to stand nude in a room with a drain and walls that would either blast water on you with the power of a hurricane or flick water on you like a drill instructor with a wet mouth. And the water was either as hot as the sun or as cool as Arnold Schwarzenegger in Batman Forever.
Communal showers were a thing in UK schools too but we never used them. Also Curry's Pennywise is still terrorfying to me, his devil in Legend also, love that film
Finally a question relevant to my expertise... Group or "gang" showers are an artifact of building design for facilities categorized as institutional; The layout saves usable area while minimizing building service requirements, specifically for educational & corrections occupancies. The contemporary design intent prioritizes individual privacy, age, and utilization requirements. A few examples include single "build-up" or modular stalls, curtain/furniture systems, or privacy screens integral to the plumbing fixtures. The opposite is true for corrections facilities, where usable area, building services, and safety are priority. tldr; Older facilities have group showers, today most places have single showers...except jail where they see everything.
Showers started being a thing in middle school and highschool, and we really only used them during swimming units. Pretty sure they were available to use for regular units but you were given specifically extra time to shower and dry off after a swimming class.
Yep. Communal showers were a thing for us in middle and high school. Super fun for self conscious teenagers as I’m sure you can imagine. And yes, it was enforced by your gym teacher. You could be docked points for your class if you didn’t take one and got caught.
80s kid here. middle school / high school showers were NOT A THING. nobody EVER used them, and if they had, they'd be instantly labeled some kind of weird ogre freak. in COLLEGE the showers were used by the sports teams -- mostly the away teams. the home teams would just go back to their dorms for a normal human level of privacy. but no. nobody in high school, even in the 80s, was enough of a weirdo to use the showers in gym class.
Dude, none of my friends i grew up with remember either SeaQuest or Earth 2. I remember watching it with my parents but neither of them remembers Earth 2. Hearing James mention both in this one video is like the weirdest validation lol..like finally I know I wasnt just crazy or remembering a dream all these years (yeah i've googled it and knew it really existed, just nice hearing someone else remember it also lol)
Had those showers in Scotland. Moving away from them now. We only had to use them after rugby , swimming, or if we got really muddy. The PE teachers used to walk up and down the middle. It was creepy.
(5:33) I loved Earth 2! What a sweet beautiful mess that show was! I wish they could have found their footing, because I liked what they did in a lot of the episodes. It just never really "gelled", I guess would be the best way to put it. Anyway, cool that you guys mentioned it! :)
Graduated 2010, there were showers in my school gym locker rooms, but mostly for after school sports events. The only time they were used for gym classes were during swim practice. It was super awkward.
Im from the US , ive never showered with another dude, happens a lot here, in my high school only the foot ballplayers did, and everyone els in the locker room made fun of them behind their backs.😂😂😂
Yeah, we had communal showers at my high school as well. You weren't forced to take a shower but (for some reason) bullies would give kids (myself included) a hard time for not taking a shower in them. Always thought that was a bit off.
They're not white supremacists - they're goat supremacist. Well, specifically WHITE goat supremacy - but you're giving the wrong impression of them here. It's rude.
I went to a Canadian public high school and we had communal showers. They were almost never used though and certainly weren’t mandatory after a PE class.
The big shower room was definitely a thing at Melbourne high schools in the 1980s, I had years of it. And yes, everybody had to shower, all together. And yes, the overweight kids, the kids who were slow to develop were made to feel inadequate and ashamed. I was in the cadets in high school, the cadet unit was connected to the school, we went on camp and the showers were a rectangle framed by a plastic sheet wrapped around four trees, perhaps four or five meters each side with a spar you would collect a bag of hot water from a pot and hang it and open a valve at bottom to let a few minutes of water run. One of the officers, a teacher at the school took photographs of three cadets (including myself) showering in a row, butts to the camera, and that photograph was published in the school newsletter. It boggles my mind, he would surely lose his job for taking picture like that today, but he was not even secretive about it, offered the photo to the school newspaper.
As a teenager who just graduated high school I NEVER took a shower at there but the place was so old there were showers that hasn't been used since probably the 70s or 80s.
Others have already said as much, but, yes communal showers were/are a thing in US schools-- and beyond. It's not unusual to have communal showers in any men's rooms where you might shower-- gyms, public pools, YMCAs, campgrounds (though it's not too common at campgrounds anymore). I think as these establishments build new facilities, individual stalls are built. But, when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s, you just had to learn how to not feel weird showering in a big open room with other guys.
I did not have one of those weird communal showers in any of my schools. I think my middle school had showers but they were curtained off. My high school did too but they were even more blocked off, thankfully I only ever had to use them once. I managed to get out of most physical classes one way or another
The older kid in class is in the book. He has stayed back a few years. Although not 25 years by the looks of this dude. And communal showers still are a thing in Australia. I used to work as a rigger and some refineries that produced highly toxic chemicals would have a communal shower, with a few private stalls, and you would have to remove every piece of clothing, put it in your wash bag to be washed by them overnight, then shower with 30 odd other blokes in the same huge room, then get in your own clothes. Get back in the morning and your clothes were laundered and repeat the day. It was pretty strange to begin with but it ends up after a few days just taking a shower and talking shit with the other blokes like nothing odd is happening.
2:30 Adult Bill in the book is losing his hair. This adaptation seems to mock him by giving him full ponytail and IT Chapter 2 simply casts James McAvoy.
we had showers in high and middle school. It was never enforced to use them even if you had a weightlifting class first period. I never saw them and skipped my classes.
1. Communal showers after Rugby training/matches was a thing here in the UK in my boarding school in the 80's (yes, I'm old... and yes, insert your jokes here by all means...) 2. @8:12 that girl on the right has her whole arm down that guys trousers it's... wonderous, 3. Come on guys... did you ever see 'The Curry' in Annie, Clue or National Lampoons Loaded Weapon ("Wilderness Girls")... ?
Ohhhhh, I'd forget my bloody balloons if they weren't tied to my clown-wrists, niiiice vid as usual btw. Ohhhhh (part 2)... DON'T ever do "The Langoliers" as that is Oscar-material (as in material that came from a tramp/bum called Oscar) but pleeeeease do "The Dead Zone"... Martin Sheen, Christopher Walken AND the baddy from the Sellars Pink Panther movie run in one film.... phewwweeeeeee! #thereisnomiserysequel
These two guys are hilarious, but the editing is so frickin' funny, it really adds a lot to the video. Well done, Ben!
Is that the editor guy? Ben? He doesn't get enough credit.
🙄 worst comment to read when you try to play this video for bedtime....sorry Ben I'm missing out!
I go to sleep listening to them. They have the best back and forth banter on youtube. Shout out AVGN, CINEMASSACRE.
I feel that my brain works the same way as Ben's edits... serious work meeting? No... quick references to movies and puns!
Showers in school were a thing, but you weren't forced to shower
we are
Eric Woodard for a second, I read this too quick and I thought you wrote *Shooters in school were a thing*
@@nastylittlecritter Oh, those pesky shooters
some like it smelly
@@nastylittlecritter More like "Shooters in school are a thing"
Yes. Showers in American public schools are a thing. No, I didn't like it.
A sewer-dwelling clown would have been preferable.
yes, lucky they never made me do it. maybe bc I'm a girl...idk
What school did you go too? I’ve NEVER seen any communal showers in any American school.
My high school had 1 private shower that was only for athletes after their games
I’m pretty sure the school would get sued for making children get naked in front of each other and shower together
Grim i dont know where in the US you are but in Illinois we had communal showers yes we were forced to get naked in front of eachother. Yes it sucked uncomfortable you basically took a 1 minute quick shower. No one sued that im aware. In some private schools in the 50s they used to swim naked too. crazy i know
@@TheGrimStride I moved around a lot when I was a teenager and every single high school and middle school I went to had communal showers. Did you go to a private school? I'm shocked that you've never seen them
Bob Lanz that’s so weird. Maybe part of it has to do with how old the school is and if it has ever been renovated.
Like how can you even take a shower before the next class starts anyway?
1 minute does nothing. We would just use a sweat towel and cologne
Yeah, it’s still a thing but like nobody takes a shower. We have the option to but for sports like wrestling you are required but most people just kinda pee in them
What state do you live in? I’ve never seen it and I’m pretty sure it’s illegal since they are children
Grim im in high school now and N.C.
@@TheGrimStride It's not illegal for kids to take a shower. They have to get changed in there too so it makes sense that there would be a shower if they need to clean off. I went to 4 different high schools (most on the west coast but one in Minnesota) and they all had communal showers. It wasn't ever a requirement that you use it but if people complained about your smell you'd usually get sent there during lunch or something to take one in private
I had a community shower in my high school in Georgia, wasn't required but there was a good chance you could be the only one in there since most people didn't like the idea of it
Don’t diss the shower slide throw some soap on the floor and you got a instant slip and slide
Yup communal showers are a thing in US schools. And I always thought the coach was pennywise luring the kid into the shower. He was already a bunch of the other town's people.
It must be leftovers from a long time ago because I have never seen that in a school. I feel like that would be illegal
@@TheGrimStride I think almost every school in the US have showers. But maybe many have stalls now. Ours had a communal shower room, which was inside the gym locker room. And no one ever insisted on taking showers, they were usually used by students in sport teams if they wanted to use it.
That's a good point.
I’ve never met someone my age who had a communal shower in their school or were forced to take a shower and I live in America. My dad said they had to shower together and he was shocked that I didn’t have to and for some reason thought I should have had to. I have no idea why he was so adamant about that. Like this makes you a man to shower with other naked kids, maybe it’s so you’re not self conscious about your little wiener and you see that everyone had a little wiener too. Except for that one kid who got held back 3 times and had a huge bush and a giant shlong hanging out. Hahaha
_KISS ME FAT BOI!!!_
*~ Pennywise The Dancing Clown (1991)*
But the mini-series came out in 1990
Mr. Friendship 1990*
Mr. Friendship
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"It's PC culture gone mad."- Maso lol
Mr. Friendship *1990*
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Scariest thing in this version of "IT" is that damn ponytail. Still gives me nightmares.
TRUTH.
Compared to a lot of 2010's hairstyles (e.g., topknots), the ponytail looked fine.
The funny thing is he’s bald in the book
@@daleanmonster4218 he's got the landing strip haha
ok CinemaSins
From America - I went to public schools, and our locker rooms did have showers in them. That said, they were almost never used, and certainly no one was up anyone's ass about taking a shower. We used to make jokes about how back in the day people must have showered together, so maybe this was a thing in the 80s?
That's what makes it so scary...the gym teacher is a bully/pervo
nope, we didnt use them in the 80s either. maybe in the 70s?
Same here man
People stopped using the showers around the 80s. Idk why in tv and film they still show americans using the showers
So the kids part of the book and this movie was set in the 1950s... when this communal showering thing happened. Yeah it doesn’t happen now but this movie isn’t set in the now (or the 80s or 70s). It’s accurate for the time.
Seth green looks like he’s like 17 compared to the other kids looking 11.
Close he was like 15/16 when he made this.
"Excuse me sir, do u have Prince Albert in a can? You do? Well u better let the poor guy out." God I love that joke
Prince Albert is both a kind of tobacco and also, an actual (deceased) prince. The joke plays on the double meaning of having Prince Albert in a can. If your thoughts immediately ran to male genital piercings, then something might be wrong with you.
@@bobsickle2336 I can understand how - to younger people - they wouldn't immediately connect this joke to a royal historical figure or a type of tobacco. However, they would know or have heard about the slang term for getting your penis pierced. I think it's a little ignorant and prudish to chalk it up to something being "wrong" with CaptainSoggyDog here, rather it's a generational or societal misunderstanding. Like the difference between technological or computer terms and their original, traditional meanings - if one is not used to this usage of vocabulary in this context, their minds will go to different destinations than what's actually being conferred.
I suppose an easy - if not totally illustrative example would be the word 'Tablet'. This misunderstanding just happens to do with getting your penis stabbed so that you can stick metal into it for decorative and tactile purpo- ... on second though yeah, it sounds kinda weird, I admit but it's a phenomenon that's relatively well-known though only a small amount of people do it.
I assume the "Prince Albert in a can" joke was from Stephen King's childhood in the 1950s, when the earlier part of the book is set. Presumably some viewers in the 80s got the reference, but by now it's a very obscure historical thing.
I’m 38 and yes it was a creepy movie as a kid. Very well done for a TV movie in 1990. It’s funny when you can tell the special effects as time passes on.
I know this is 2 years old but this was a TV movie? I saw it on TV but it freaked me out so bad that I stayed away and figured it was theatrical. Mind 💥
I'm 42 now so we are probably the same age and yes, this movie was a big deal to kids our age back then. It was terrifying and everyone talked about it. I rented that double tape VHS many times and couldn't bring myself to watch it alone.
In my high school in the UK we did have a showers but it was a small area connected to the PE changing room. We never used it and I forgot the reason the teacher gave but it had probably never been in use.
It's scary on a CRT and high definition ruins it by making IT easier to see.
“A haircut that turns into a stalactite” 😂
So my kit only contained a loving father who just supports me, I'd like a refund!!!!
I'll trade you
At my high school in Australia back in the late 80's and early 90's, there were those communal shower rooms separated by a wall from the rest of the changing room. Yes we were forced to shower after every PE lesson (at least in year 7 to 9)
I was at high school in Australia during the 80s, and we did have one PE teacher who came in and decided we should all shower after PE class. Obviously for kids not used to it (most of us) it was traumatising. Man, I did not want to have to see my friends' genitals. I have a feeling the forced showering petered out after a while - I guess parents complained.
My high school had one but no one used it.
I, to this day, cannot watch the original IT. I can't even look or listen to Tim Curry as Pennywise. He completely did me in. I was completely traumatized as a child watching this. What was my mother thinking! SMH, lol.
Same. I saw the movie as a kid and i was scarred for life.
Same. Saw the first half hour of part one at a children's party, when I was about 10, birthday girl asked her mum to rent ET, but instead got IT. (How the hell, do you mess that up?) So that was fun.
Same, I always thought this was the scariest show ever
some movies are real not all of them
@@can-ws8hn Some movies are inspired by or based on true stories. But no movie is real.
The slingshot and battery acid are from the book and I was really pissed that they left them out of the new version. The slingshot is one of Bev's Big Badass Moments ("Bev's Big BMs" for short): They get some silver slugs for ammo (because they reason that silver works on werewolves so it should work on It) and they practise with the weapon beforehand to see who's best with it. Turns out Bev is by far the best shot, so she is the one who wields the slingshot when they go after Pennywise as kids, and she gets to fuck him up with it, smashing a hole through his skull. Whereas in the new movie Bev is turned into a typical damsel in distress and gets bugger all to do other than be rescued.
And the inhaler works as battery acid because their belief in it makes the stuff melt a hole in Pennywise's face. On the other hand, beating the clown up with sticks and crowbars isn't about belief, it's more about working together as a group, so still a decent message, just different from the original one.
6:19 I love that Mason says Skellington 😂
*THAT’S A STAPLE OF THE IT FRANCHISE MAYBE*
99 Luftballoons!
7:53 Pennywise doing flips like a darn Jedi in the sewers, he even got the Lightsaber!
You guys should play the arkham games because of the recent 10 year anniversary of arkham asylum
Communal showers were a thing in my (UK) high school. Never saw anyone use them, I think it was for after-school stuff or Rugby when it rains
There's only one place where you can avoid Pennywise. SPACE!
Which is ironic cause he"s from space
Tim Curry was a riot! Even more so when you realize he is afraid of clowns.
Class of '96 in an American High School, we had communal shower in the locker rooms. They looked similar to the shower from one of those Resident Evil movies. No shower heads on the outer walls. Great video, Grab That Gem you guys, not somebody else whilst in a communal shower.
If we could get a Bad Boys 1 and/or 2 Caravan of Garbage before Oscar contender Bad Boys For Life, it'd be much appreciated number-one-party-boy Nick and the-host-of-the-podcast James?
I hope they change the title to Bad Boys For Lif3 and then its sequel could be called Bad Boys 4 Life
MyNameIsBlue omg yes please!!!..... now show them your badge! .... even though I just mowed them all down with an uzi mid drift! 🤣🤣
Do you mean the Sundance film festival winning movie bad boys for life?
Glad to see this getting the kicking it deserves. I got tired of people saying Chapter 1 isn't as good as this one. Kept saying "Are you sure? When's the last time you watched it? Because I think it's just you childhood memories making it scarier and better than it was".
What video is the Mr Sunday Movies goat puppet from?
My nightmares. Or, goat Han Solo.
Its from an ad
That's James's son
@@thequestion4818 the human is James' son. He's actually the goat.
It's, honestly, the greatest Ad you will ever see.
American here, went to high school from 1997-2001, while there were showers in the gym, we never once were asked to shower or told we had to. What I can say is that shows like this terrified me because being naked in front of my wife is scary let alone being naked in front of people I could barely stand!
What I will say about the scariness factor is that you would have HAD to have watched this back then, either as a kid or an adult, because movies these days are all about gore and shit when the fear from this was entirely cerebral.
I’d be interested to know if maybe gym/recess was longer and that’s why they had kids shower back in the day.
Great vid boys, cheers!
Why did none of the kids grow up and join the military and come back like the Punisher to fight Pennywise?! That's how I would have done it
Physical weapons won't help you against a metaphysical creature.
@@dreamlandnightmare but it would help you mentally face your fears, think logically and I would take that chance if a pipe and bat did have an impact.
After they leave town, they all slowly forget everything that happens there. When the 27 years ends, they only come back because Mike, who never left, gives them the call.
Get young Roland in there and have him come back to shoot penny wise in the face
@@dreamlandnightmare thats what you want us to think!
Since the kid scenes were set in the 1950's in the miniseries, yes kids absolutely had to shower after gym class. My mom had horror stories about being bullied by the other girls in those showers. There was a pretty awful post-gym shower scene near the start of Carrie, too.
For a future caravan of garbage video, could you two possibly cover whatever that Marvel comic is where characters from every Earth based superhero team get turned into Hulks (I think it's called Fall of Hulks, Hulked Out Heroes and World War Hulks in some order)?
never heard of it, but sounds like it'll be a great episode
@@hellojari07 in all honesty the way I remembered it existed was that I was looking through images of X-Men characters and I randomly found one of a comic strip image of Cyclops and Iceman just fighting each other... as Hulks and then I realised I had seen a video about when just about every hero on Earth getting Hulk powers.
Yes, American schools have showers in locker rooms. But we typically only use them after sports practice after achool, not after an hour long gym class lol
This was a great one guys! I love them all but this one made me laugh a lot. I too enjoy the relentless beating given to Pennywise by the kids in the 2017 film 😂
I love the editing of these videos! they add a lot of fun to the already hilarious commentary from both of you
I loved this when I was a kid, terrified me.
It's easy to beat up on old films.
Oh part 1 is miles better than the part 1 remake. It's just generally better in most every way. The literal film quality is significantly worse, but that's about it. Better acting. More realistic characters and problems. Better focus and payoff. More thematic. Way better pacing (minus those flashbacks). And the way it cuts away from the violence is a better technique, which is why effectively everyone who saw it remembers moments like the little girl and Georgie.
Twenty years from now not a soul will remember the remake. No one will praise the visuals because cgi will be better. And people won't like the ending where they beat IT with a bat because that's very stupid.
@@cemarz The
part 1 remake does a better job of been more faithful to the book and it wasn’t held back due to been a theatrical release so it didn’t have to tone it down
Here’s the thing. Pennywise is supposed to lure you to your death by being a fun, silly clown who seems friendly. Tim Curry did that. The new Pennywise is so creepy and weird, I wouldn’t go near him. If he talked to me, I’d go home, pack my doo-rag, tie it on a stick and leave town. So, on the one hand, new Pennywise is more scary but on the other, he’d never fool anyone. He looks scary off jump.
EXACTLY. one of the things about pennywise clown form is how some things scare kids but not adults, like if a kid saw a clown like pennywise and was terrified and told an adult the adult might say, "stop being silly" or "grow up, theres nothing to be afraid of" -thats the point of all clowns, there unpredictably. New pennywise is very predictable. Hes obviously not human, and he obviously is evil. It takes him from being a creepy clown to just being another monster.
TheBd62 so true. The whole “clowns are scary” belief became popular in the 80s. Not when the movie takes place. People did not fear clowns back then. They were funny and entertained children. Which is why the contrast of a murderous, monstrous clown worked so well.
@@PaperMario64 yup. People point out how John Wayne Gasey was a real life creepy clown, but forget that actual people hired that man to work actual children's parties! And no one was the wiser.
@@PaperMario64 also the way they beat pennywise in the new movie spoils the second movie. If you can just beat him up with regular kid strength as long as one believe and arnt afraid, its obviously the lack of fear that weakens IT. In the old movie, the kids thought he had a weakness to silver, and so when silver doesnt work the second time they dont no what to do. In the new one there no placebo crutch for them to lean on. which is another obvious point from the book lost.
TheBd62 You’re right! That’s another great point! I feel like folks couldn’t see past the special effects. So sad.
Rose Red is my favorite of the "classic" Stephen King adaptations. I love it so much I had to give it a googs so I didn't accidently say a Pierce Brown novel.
We had a shower in my junior high and high school, but NO ONE used them because it was weird. Maybe if you were on the basketball or football team and actually got dirty, but after phys ed class, absolutely no one used the showers, and it was never brought up by the teachers as something we should have been doing.
Hahaha
Is the thing you turned into crowbar-proof?! lol Probably NOT!! 😂
Watched this as a kid when it first aired and it scared the shit out of me. That scene where It comes up out of the drain had me terrified of drains for months!
The 2017 reboot is still better, but the 90's original is a classic in it's own way.
*WHA-HA WHA-HA WHA-HA*
Excuse me Sir Do you have Prince Albert in a can? ....You D? well,you better let the poor guy out
the new one was not better. they tried to hard but hey its my opinion
Eleven Teen the new IT movies are far superior. The child actors alone make the films better. IT from 1990 aged terribly because it was sadly made for TV but older movies aged better than this corny movie
Is your refrigerator running? It is!? Well, ya better catch it!
Yung_Grouch the thing here is that the new movie is modern while the older one was older. The new one was trying soooo hard to be scary with the jump scares and the clown. The clown was not meant to be scary. If you ask a lot of people of that time, the 1990 miniseries scared them
Group showers in the US definitely exist. This was the worst part of junior high. No Contest!
I still say we need an entire Caravan of Garbage, where James does nothing but roast Mason for 10:01, when Mason has no idea.
Ill never forget the first time I, as a seven year old, read my way through IT with a dictionary on hand for context. I’ll also never forget how confused I was at the inclusion of the child orgy just before the Pennywise fight. Not about what was happening or why, messy childhood and all, just that the Editors and Publishers would let this scene stay in.
They did it when my dad went to school and my high school had them but we never used them. I think they started phasing out showers in 90s/early 2000's
American guy here. Yes, showers at high school are a real thing but only after P.E. or sports practice and it's always optional. It was fine. Surprisingly, there was no genital shaming, that I was witness to at least.
Mom: You don't need the new IT movie. We have IT at home.
IT at home:
Hahaha OMG. The main character pony tail. What if it wasn't what Stephen King looked like at the time, but what he thought was cool and didnt have the confidence to try. It's funny in a mean yet interesting way.
And honestly. I completely misinterpreted Caravan of Garbage when you two started. Totally thought you were making fun of garbage. But in actuality you guys are nerds like me. And this shit is great.
A dad that beats you he’s in the box
Or...is he?
Just the neglect and lack of male role model you need to become the bully you’re meant to be
WHAT'S IN THE BOX?! What's inn the booxxx
I was in 4th grade when this came out and unbeknownst to my parents I “taped it” off of TV with our “VCR”. I have a soft spot for it as an early gateway to horror, which I still love. Showed it to my 5th grade son, he was 50/50 nervous and bored by it. I am HYPED for Chapter 2!
It wasn't terrible, it was made for TV rather than cinema. Plus they were still influenced by "The 80's"
9:49 "That's proper old school bullying."
Damn, maybe my childhood wasn't so bad after all.
Yes communal shows are a thing. My school got rid of ours and have put in 6 individual showers
I wanted to say thank you for recommending Garth Marenghi's DARKPLACE (was mentioned in the Swamp Thing Caravan of Garbage) So good, thank you
It's a masterpiece
I have big nostalgia goggles for the mini series. And to it's credit there are definitely some things it does even better than the remakes :p
Communal showers are definitely a thing. I was on the wrestling team and they had us all shower after practice so we didn't get ringworm. Our coach would blast the Rocky soundtrack any time we were in the locker room. The 3rd or 4th song however is a love song. It was always uncomfortable when we didn't shower off fast enough and we would have to stand nude in a room with a drain and walls that would either blast water on you with the power of a hurricane or flick water on you like a drill instructor with a wet mouth. And the water was either as hot as the sun or as cool as Arnold Schwarzenegger in Batman Forever.
How can you mention Tim Curry without the Rocky Horror Picture Show
@8:50 many schools still have showers, however they aren't used. It is no longer mandatory to take showers together.
Would you kindly do Return to Oz? That's scarier than this.
And fucking amazing
The wheelers still haunt my dreams
They have to do it now for sure. Damn good strategy 👌
Communal showers were a thing in UK schools too but we never used them.
Also Curry's Pennywise is still terrorfying to me, his devil in Legend also, love that film
Have you guy's done Legend, with Tim Curry and Tom Cruise?
Yes! I want a caravan of garbage episode with that! Liiiiiiiiiilyyyyyyy!
Finally a question relevant to my expertise...
Group or "gang" showers are an artifact of building design for facilities categorized as institutional; The layout saves usable area while minimizing building service requirements, specifically for educational & corrections occupancies. The contemporary design intent prioritizes individual privacy, age, and utilization requirements. A few examples include single "build-up" or modular stalls, curtain/furniture systems, or privacy screens integral to the plumbing fixtures. The opposite is true for corrections facilities, where usable area, building services, and safety are priority.
tldr; Older facilities have group showers, today most places have single showers...except jail where they see everything.
Eventually everything becomes your caravan of garbage
Showers started being a thing in middle school and highschool, and we really only used them during swimming units. Pretty sure they were available to use for regular units but you were given specifically extra time to shower and dry off after a swimming class.
OMG I went to that exact school at 8:11 I can't handle this
"What I love about the Beverly character..." *the scene leading to where she gets beat by her dad*
"That she's making a sale to Japanese business men"
Thumbs up if you remember Earth2! That was a good show!
Yep. Communal showers were a thing for us in middle and high school. Super fun for self conscious teenagers as I’m sure you can imagine. And yes, it was enforced by your gym teacher. You could be docked points for your class if you didn’t take one and got caught.
If you're doing Stephen King crap do TV adaptation of The Langoliers.
IT..
IS..
AMAZING!!!
And it has Bronson Pinchot. So 90s!
@@acespot1 "Scaring the little girAALH!"
I loved that as a kid. :D It's all-teeth face in the new movies reminds me a lot of the langoliers.
@@barkasz6066 That "langoliers" may be the worst example of CGI I've ever seen.
dreamlandnightmare yes but dammit that’s what makes it so good
80s kid here. middle school / high school showers were NOT A THING. nobody EVER used them, and if they had, they'd be instantly labeled some kind of weird ogre freak. in COLLEGE the showers were used by the sports teams -- mostly the away teams. the home teams would just go back to their dorms for a normal human level of privacy. but no. nobody in high school, even in the 80s, was enough of a weirdo to use the showers in gym class.
They were absolutely a thing in 80s and 90s in Alaska. And they were required.
The amount of make up, prosthetics and other shit Tim Curry has put all over himself for our entertainment should earn him a golden statue.
Have you seen lately he is in a wheelchair now
@@locolopez75 well he is in his 70's
@@WoodFaerie he had an accident his health is bad
Dude, none of my friends i grew up with remember either SeaQuest or Earth 2. I remember watching it with my parents but neither of them remembers Earth 2. Hearing James mention both in this one video is like the weirdest validation lol..like finally I know I wasnt just crazy or remembering a dream all these years (yeah i've googled it and knew it really existed, just nice hearing someone else remember it also lol)
CinemaSins: IT.
Honest Trailers: IT.
Mr Sunday Movies: IT.
Because the new movie's coming out, duh.
@@ThreadBomb wowwee geewillikers, could it really be :O
Had those showers in Scotland. Moving away from them now. We only had to use them after rugby , swimming, or if we got really muddy. The PE teachers used to walk up and down the middle. It was creepy.
Saw Chapter Two today. Loved every minute of it.
I thought this miniseries was terrifying when I was a kid.
The original Pennywise is so much better than the modern one BUT I'm still going to see Chapter 2 in cinemas next weekend.
How so? Even as a child I could do nothing but laugh at Curry's performance. I love me some Tim Curry but lordy that's a hammy role.
(5:33) I loved Earth 2! What a sweet beautiful mess that show was! I wish they could have found their footing, because I liked what they did in a lot of the episodes. It just never really "gelled", I guess would be the best way to put it. Anyway, cool that you guys mentioned it! :)
Honestly I'm so glad the 2017 and 2019 movies exist
Graduated 2010, there were showers in my school gym locker rooms, but mostly for after school sports events. The only time they were used for gym classes were during swim practice. It was super awkward.
Im from the US , ive never showered with another dude, happens a lot here, in my high school only the foot ballplayers did, and everyone els in the locker room made fun of them behind their backs.😂😂😂
Yeah, we had communal showers at my high school as well. You weren't forced to take a shower but (for some reason) bullies would give kids (myself included) a hard time for not taking a shower in them. Always thought that was a bit off.
Lol did you ever tell them that was pretty gay of them? Bullies hate being called gay
I still prefer the originals over the new movies - ngl
Thumbs up for referencing two of my favorite 90's sci-fi forgotten shows!!! Seaquest and Earth 2 lmao!!!!!
my favorite white supremacists are back!
I do not understand the reference but I thumbed you up.
I hope it's a reference.
@@Battleschnodder i as well also too do not done did not recognize the reference but liked his comment still oh yes i did
They're not white supremacists - they're goat supremacist. Well, specifically WHITE goat supremacy - but you're giving the wrong impression of them here. It's rude.
White Supremacist is not a good thing. Imagine a world with only the colour white. Horrible. Magenta Supremacy is the way forward.
You have favorites? Wow. You’re an idiot.
Goddamn I can hear how much it threw Mason off when James said "See you next week", leaving him to go "Grab that gem you guys... goodbye" :P
“By a variety of non threatening traps” LMAO I cant this review is so funny 😂😂😂
I never had showers in any of my schools until high school and even then it was very rare that anyone ever showered after PE/gym class.
I went to a Canadian public high school and we had communal showers. They were almost never used though and certainly weren’t mandatory after a PE class.
The big shower room was definitely a thing at Melbourne high schools in the 1980s, I had years of it. And yes, everybody had to shower, all together. And yes, the overweight kids, the kids who were slow to develop were made to feel inadequate and ashamed.
I was in the cadets in high school, the cadet unit was connected to the school, we went on camp and the showers were a rectangle framed by a plastic sheet wrapped around four trees, perhaps four or five meters each side with a spar you would collect a bag of hot water from a pot and hang it and open a valve at bottom to let a few minutes of water run. One of the officers, a teacher at the school took photographs of three cadets (including myself) showering in a row, butts to the camera, and that photograph was published in the school newsletter. It boggles my mind, he would surely lose his job for taking picture like that today, but he was not even secretive about it, offered the photo to the school newspaper.
As a teenager who just graduated high school I NEVER took a shower at there but the place was so old there were showers that hasn't been used since probably the 70s or 80s.
Others have already said as much, but, yes communal showers were/are a thing in US schools-- and beyond. It's not unusual to have communal showers in any men's rooms where you might shower-- gyms, public pools, YMCAs, campgrounds (though it's not too common at campgrounds anymore). I think as these establishments build new facilities, individual stalls are built. But, when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s, you just had to learn how to not feel weird showering in a big open room with other guys.
I did not have one of those weird communal showers in any of my schools. I think my middle school had showers but they were curtained off. My high school did too but they were even more blocked off, thankfully I only ever had to use them once. I managed to get out of most physical classes one way or another
How can you forget Tim Curry's best role as a girls scout cookie seller in National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1?
The older kid in class is in the book. He has stayed back a few years. Although not 25 years by the looks of this dude. And communal showers still are a thing in Australia. I used to work as a rigger and some refineries that produced highly toxic chemicals would have a communal shower, with a few private stalls, and you would have to remove every piece of clothing, put it in your wash bag to be washed by them overnight, then shower with 30 odd other blokes in the same huge room, then get in your own clothes. Get back in the morning and your clothes were laundered and repeat the day. It was pretty strange to begin with but it ends up after a few days just taking a shower and talking shit with the other blokes like nothing odd is happening.
2:30 Adult Bill in the book is losing his hair. This adaptation seems to mock him by giving him full ponytail and IT Chapter 2 simply casts James McAvoy.
we had showers in high and middle school. It was never enforced to use them even if you had a weightlifting class first period. I never saw them and skipped my classes.
9:10 That's the Russian General from Stargate SG-1 playing the coach...
Tim curry saying "hiya georgie!" Is still one of the scariest scenes ive ever seen
1. Communal showers after Rugby training/matches was a thing here in the UK in my boarding school in the 80's (yes, I'm old... and yes, insert your jokes here by all means...)
2. @8:12 that girl on the right has her whole arm down that guys trousers it's... wonderous,
3. Come on guys... did you ever see 'The Curry' in Annie, Clue or National Lampoons Loaded Weapon ("Wilderness Girls")... ?
Ohhhhh, I'd forget my bloody balloons if they weren't tied to my clown-wrists, niiiice vid as usual btw.
Ohhhhh (part 2)... DON'T ever do "The Langoliers" as that is Oscar-material (as in material that came from a tramp/bum called Oscar) but pleeeeease do "The Dead Zone"... Martin Sheen, Christopher Walken AND the baddy from the Sellars Pink Panther movie run in one film.... phewwweeeeeee! #thereisnomiserysequel