Right now, I am watching the Dr. Umar Saif Podcast, and five minutes ago, I saw your (Dr. Umar's) LinkedIn post announcing your appointment as the Federal IT & Telecom Minister. Good luck, Dr. Umar Saif! Hopefully, we'll witness some positive changes in the IT industry of Pakistan during your tenure.
So I was trying to find the lineage of Dr. Umar Saif, like I want my kids to grow up and be someone like him.... then I find that his father is a Colonel, sadly, I am not. So my appreciation and admiration of the podcast just fizzled out, as how can any ordinary Pakistani dream to be like him, unless they are a son of a Colonel/General? Most of the talk about working, making contacts in Pakistan, and doing stuff could have only been done when you are from a specific background. I believe that Dr. Umar has a good heart, but his accomplishments come from a place of privilege. He isn't bad, his work isn't bad, but the fact that only a person from a specific background could have done this is bad. Reminds me of the political elite talk in some of your podcasts, and now when I see the Pakistan and realize, how most people you see successful are mostly there because how their forefathers leached the country. Yes, it's coming from my hate towards an institution. Why can't there be a 1,000 Dr. Umar's in this country? Because there aren't as many Colonel's in Pakistan. Kind of makes me wonder, Shehzad, do you have someone in the family from the boots? ;)
While what Dr. Umar Saif said about Indian IT industry made enormous sense, there are lots of niche IT companies that provide product engineering services instead of just staffing or body-shopping. In fact digital product engineering is increasing its share in the overall growing pie of IT services. In the end, its still services. But there is a lot of difference between such companies as well as pureplay staffing companies.
Perhaps. But Western companies' intent for doing this is twofold: Reducing the immigration footprint and hiring cheap keypunchers in their country-of-origin.
Shahbaz era was best in promoting IT industry. We were getting free Laptops free training and even free Internet.... I hope for the best while Shahbaz is coming back
In current world an IT company cannot survive without having its own products. I work in a French IT MNC, which has its largest workforce in India. All top IT companies has its campuses in India and everyone now focuses on research and new product developments.
Yeah this guy has a surface knowledge and do not know India has moved up on the ladder focusing mainly on emerging and latest cutting edge technologies. Staff augmentation will not generate $200 B revenues.
@@ssmujooHe is saying what he hears in Pakistan about Indian IT or might have googled it so you are right he has surface knowledge about Indian IT industry....
@@SunShine_747 hahaha khayali pulaaav. 3 billion reserve hain khud ke paas aur billion dollars ke start up ki baat kar rha hai. Abe tujhe kis ne roka tha ab tak.
If Shehzad knew about "Aarrti" he wouldn't support the so-called farmers protests (in reality they were "aarrti protests"), which hurt most of the Indian farmers. I say this, because, he has problem with "Elite Aarrtis" selling farmer products in Pakistan but he supports that in India by supporting those protests.
@@ThePakistanExperienceDon't know why you are deleting my comments. I am simply adding a reference, citing the evidence of my claim. The supreme court panel confirmed that 85.7% farmer bodies supported farm laws. You can verify that. Besides my criticism is regarding the principle here, whether a farmer should have the freedom to sell their product wherever they choose to...or not.
@@iDeepakRananope, farmer bodies were not consulted before that decision,i don't know how got that percentage.....and government handled it very badly, most of the time tried to bribe the representatives by "the lobby"....
@@nikhildeshmukh6221I added that reference a couple of times but those comments were deleted. I would suggest you to google and verify it. Secondly, please read my criticism which I have highlighted in the previous comment. It's regarding the principle. Shehzad agrees with these liberal economic policies when there is an entrepreneur/economist on the show but goes the other way in practical matters. That was my point.
@@iDeepakRanaalso have you watched recent video where rahul gandhi was having conversations with farmers wherein farmers said that if this bill was passed it, they would've made profits No point in giving answers to @ThePakistaniExperience as I have watched several other podcast of him and he has biased opinions on the the current government
It's never a Billion Dollar Idea, but billion dollar execution what matters. If only ideas would have worth billion dollar than there would have been million billionaires.
Being a student who deals with Imagery and listening to someone who have applied it in real world. I'm passionate to create a significant impact through it.
Even though i dont agree with few of ur views, I appreciate what You are doing. keep up the great job bro. Im from India by the way. And happy independence day
I am cyber security engineer . now India has more that 50% Global Capability Centers that's where the real money is company's from Mercedes to Nvidia , Visa to JP Morgan , Dassault to Boeing , Microsoft to amazon google all top company's had back office in India and India is place where all this new products are develop . no one can compete with us in IT
LETS GOO!! So glad he's back, another bingeworthy podcast :). Aaj raat dobara nahin soun gee; sara schedule satyanass aap saab ki waja sae, but worth it ❤❤
1:14:33 this is very very good initiative . All over world most of people invest in real estate this very big mistake Eg .2008 recession because of real Estate . Today China evergrande crisis Because of Real estate Most of Pakistan people invest in real estate this is big mistake. Pakistan focus on investment in manufacturing, services,IT
19:40 the points that Dr. umar saif are highlighted about farmimg in pakistan are applicable to india , espicially indian punjab as well even that 'arhatia'(middle men) thing.
Skype was bought by Microsoft in 2011 and was used for Windows messenger and most of the features were integrated in Microsoft Teams, which is leader in Videoconferencing in US and comes with with Windows OS. Zoom has lost ground to Teams in US, India and Europe partly due to good product at low price and initially having server based in China (now they have servers in US and key markets) but lost race due to fear of data stored in China. They have just one product will go down same way like AOL, Netscape. Microsoft bundles with Windows OS gives Microsoft Teams advantage.
Infosys has a product like Finacle which is a very successful core banking system. Indian tech companies build systems for companies globally. India is also the technology backbone of global capital markets and banking. There can be no revolution in Pakistan given the absolute anarchy and religious radicalization. Just yesterday multiple churches were burnt.
I’m from Lahore, Pakistan 🇵🇰 I left Islam after reading Quran and listening Adam Seeker, Sahil Bhai, Zafar Heretics and Harris Sultan. I need your help…..
Very well informed analysis and enlightened guest. Hope he becomes /starts the element of change in a country loosing out on hope for a better tommorow...A man of science and vision for his country & doesn't seem to suffer from national obsession against neighbour country.
I am mechanical Engineer and I am working in Top IT company in India. The logic matters and not software education alone. Skill can be imparted if there is aptitude. The guest is missing the point, Indian IT companies have not thrived on labour arbitrage alone. That’s initial revolution, today, most of IT companies have matured processes to next level. They have Dev centres all over the world. Indian IT companies today build products, All major Product Techs have their RnD centres here. Btw, do you know who is the father of Indian IT revolution? He was born in present day Pakistan. The Fakir Chand Kohli. If Pakistan hadn’t expelled all Hindus and Sikhs in 1947, imagine where they would have been in IT today…..
Populations were not meant to have been expelled but it happened And you seem to conveniently omit the fact that millions of people from present day India were similarly expelled/killed.
@@wkhan5Lol there are books ok these. A popular book with all the evidence and citation you need is Population Exchange. Read it. And not the Butto-Zia history.
India's UPI is now a global revolution in digital payment systems. In fact, now the India Stack is a global tech hot topic. So India's tech industry has evolved significantly and I have just given a few examples.
MashaALLAH, what a super smart & highly intelligent guy, he is. Good to see him as Minister of IT. May ALLAH kareem gives more visionary & problem solver people to this country.
There are 23 iits producing 18000 eng a year, total no of employees of TCS is 600000, if this simple info on Google you can not account and you guys want a billion dollars start up
Great interview. Just wanted to put my two cents in. All successful start-up solve a problem. Chances are that the problem you have identified and solved locally will also be experienced by people else-where and you then scale up. The key is to first identify the problem and then solve it. I have been thinking about this idea for a while now but I can't solve it so I will put it out in the ether and maybe someone will solve it. The local mom and pop shops in Pakistan have very rudimentary ways of tracking and managing their inventory. Its mostly done on pen and paper or excel (maybe). If someone can build a POS mobile solution with reporting built in, I think that would be quite useful. So a mobile app married with a bar code scanner coupled with ability to manually input data. So every time you make a sale you just scan the bar code or manually enter it. And it has built in reports around inventory and sales. Keep that data in the cloud and make it subscription based. If a Pakistani shop keeper will find it useful so will someone in Egypt or Tunisia. The issue will be to figure out the reports, I think.
8:11 Bro, 245 billion dollars ki industry HR ka kaam nahi karti hain. I have watched your podcast but it’s disappointing to hear that the facts shared by the experts is baseless, especially considering the significant size of India’s service sector.
Bhai, at least urdu to comprehend kar lo. He's saying that the companies have an HR model, not that the end product is HR. The employees are providing IT services but the profit margins are derived from pricing/wage differences in India vs developed countries. What exactly was baseless here? He named a few companies built on this set up as well.
Bhai, Urdu comprehend karne ki toh baat hi na kare aap! Hum samajhte hai kyunki ye bhi hindustaani jubaan hai. When he took the examples, he is misquoting TCS hiring people and sending the people to FORD. Arey TCS pehli baat toh HR company hai nahi, they are specialised in Information Technology. The current market capitalisation of TCS is $152bn. In 2015, TCS was ranked 64th overall in the Forbes "World's Most Innovative Companies" ranking, making it one of the highest-ranked IT services companies and a top Indian company. I am talking about TCS only because this gentleman started spitting his “well read” facts by quoting TCS. Agar ye HR companies hoti toh, ye last 2 decades me itne technological reforms nahi hote. Every year India is adding 1400 to 1500 startups. But khair chaddo ji..
It's no more body shopping in Indian IT industry because the salary levels in the industry have gone up a lot and there are many low cost alternatives available for western countries. Indian IT industry has moved now to consulting, KPO , AI, Blockchain , product engineering, and data analytics etc. even though software development and other legacy services are still continued in combination packages.
Amul is not the only dairy cooperative in India. There’s KMF, Aavin and so on and so forth. The cooperatives compete among themselves as well - and the farmer benefits ultimately. In India more than 60% consume packaged milk. Also for farmers in India - the one source of steady income is milk : that they sell to dairy cooperatives. This keeps many rural families afloat.
They forgot the most important thing, that a foreign it company like amazon, google, Microsoft they r taking revenue from indian market after giving their salaries of indian employees
IT revolution is not easy to come for Pakistan. India started with call centres and has migrated to high end research. And we could do because of exchange rate benefit. We could peovide 10-15 people for the price of one. That advantage is still there. Also Indians have skilled themselves. Now attracting projects and companies from West is not easy for Pak, because they see an existing ecosystem in India. Thats why there is a stupendous growth in India in recent years.
It's not that way if they are more innovative with their exchange rate than us they have got high probability to succeed provided they invest in their education which is an uphill task for them. Just listen to some of the students from RUclips channels u will understand there is a huge gap in skills even the basic skills.
Wow great ti see such talented people on your podcast. Would love to see more talented people like Dr Umar Saif. He made ITU Pakistans most premier university of Computer science
It's naive on part of the "expert" to call Indian IT industry HR management companies. TCS, Infosys and other Indian services companies make an equal amount of money by selling Technology products in addition to services. Infosys and TCS are leaders in core banking, AI/ML and other industry focussed products. The expert's understanding of IT services industry is atleast a decade or two outdated.
@21:20 Nahi bhai. Hamara Basic flaw in agriculture ye hai k jo kissan ganna aur gandum laga rha hai, uska baap dada bhi vohi lagata tha.. aur uska beta bhi vohi lagae ga. Majority of kissan, due to lack of knowledge, never try any thing new. They are very reluctant to try new tech. Puri duniya me 2.5kg -3kg per acre seed use hota hai for cultivation of wheat and in pakistan we use 50Kg seed for the same area and even get less yield than rest of the world. duniya crop management ko chor chuki hai, they say that we need to do proper "soil Management" and that in turn will automatically manage your crop. but yaha per sirf ek Asif Sharif sb hain jinho ne is se milta julta concept introduce karia hai.
I disagree with Dr. sahab regarding the intellectual property rights. Them not being enforced in Pakistan properly is a strength of Pakistan. Not its weakness. I am a Tech Entrepreneur in China and the reason Chinese companies became so competitive is because of their lack of respect for International IP. Who cares if foriegn companies cant enforce them in Pakistan? Pakistan is a big market and copied solutions can be developed in Pakistan for Pakistani market. Then when others copy the same idea, it is the job of the entrepreneur to improve faster and maintain dominance. A time then comes when the product is substantially different from foriegn markets due to the local market's response. It is that time when the startup can be repeated as an experiment internationally. Pakistani brothers should focus less on attracting foriegn VCs and more on local VCs, crowdfunding (banned in Pakistan for now) and local Angel investment groups to create a high competition market. Foriegn VCs and companies will come as a by product. It should not be the end goal to attract them.
A little correction: Estonian's population is 1.3m not 2.5m. Btw, Wise and Bolt are from Estonia as well. Wise is made by some Ex-Skype guys, again maybe inspired from Skype itself.
Shehzad I love your Content.... I am from India and found your podcast suddenly and started listening.... and it's refreshing.... the topics are wide ranging.... And as an Indian I love your long form content because there is so much to learn from your podcasts:- about history, politics, economics of Pakistan and the subcontinent.... Great Job .. keep bringing great guests!! Faisal Warraich and Syed Muzzamil and Umar Saif are my favourites till now!!
@@asishrath437raj shamani is better than all combined....and kamaths also have thier podcast...they interview people who are already billionaire and unicorn founders....and some are with 100 billion dollar company founders also😊...
@@Talhatahir-wp9rd loan ke byaaj dina padta hai. par byaaj to harram hai tumari asmani kittab me. or yaa bato aaj tak sirf tumra chinese abu ko chod kar kiska paisa wapas kiya hai?? chinese ko be tum byaaj he wapas kar raha ho. Loan tum china se lete ho kyu ke chinese log bikh nai deta hai tuma wo tum america or UAE se lete ho.
@@dharmendramishra4975 Mujhe nahi lagta kai wo log sanatani hai wo bas indians hain. or jahan tak Namazi hona ke baat hai inhein namazion ka mulk mai hai tera desh kai ghareeb bande kahte peetai hain or apne gharwalon ki daikh bhal karte hain
I think in the 1st podcast with Dr. Umar, he confused IIT Kharagpur with that of Kanpur & said its in south (Sundar Pichai is from IIT Kharagpur), but Kharagpur is also not from South, its in West Bengal.
Do invite BILAL GHAURI he a columnist from jang paper. He likes you in politics who supports principal instead of parties or people. He also has a RUclips channel name TARAZZO in which he makes series on all 3 institution of Pakistan and their roll in history from 47-22 with unbiased opinion and fact's from different sources. Please do make a podcast with him on Pakistan future it's going to be success. ((its not spam just a fan of his work))
Please ask the good gentleman to Google about Global Capability Centers in India . And then he will realize how wrong or dated her is about indian IT sector
@ThePakistanExperience ibthink pakistan is planning coeporate farming and this kind of research is needed. But according to kaise bengali coporate farming is not good in the interest of pakistan
The Government/Private Entities need to sit down with Universities, I just entered my Final Year, and so many people had to give up their ideas about AgroTech because the barrier-to-entry is so high
i am Living in Estonia from Last three years its true they have one of best startup eco systmen 🇪🇪 Infact anyone can open there company is Estonia while sitting in Pakistan
To say that Indian IT companies only do body-shopping is being rather naïve. Indian IT professional with TT tables. What crap. Secondly IT professionals don't get trained by just opening engineering colleges and surely not in a year or two. Will take decades of consistent effort to create the eco-system. First and foremost one needs a supply chain of quality students at Class XII level. For 1.4 million engineering seats, 4 million CBSE and 14 million State Board students compete, which is 13X students at Class XII. This has taken India decades to build. Infrastructure, quality teachers, parental support and a thriving private sector education system. That I think should be also be addressed simultaneously or else there will be a mismatch is supply, demand and quality. Not the Madrassa type.
Wanted to just see the intro to see who this guy was... ended up spending 2 hours. That was 2 hours very well spent. Lots of useful insights... irrespective of where you are from.
So to improve your agri yields you decide to hand ove land to the army to handle agriculture. I would be very worried if I was a neighbour of the land being cropped by the army. Army by it's very nature will become the local bully and will have first option on irrigation, seeds, fertiliser etc. Armed Forces business in Pakistan are successful because they get preferential treatment. You keep doing the same thing again and then are amazed when it doesn't work
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Right now, I am watching the Dr. Umar Saif Podcast, and five minutes ago, I saw your (Dr. Umar's) LinkedIn post announcing your appointment as the Federal IT & Telecom Minister. Good luck, Dr. Umar Saif! Hopefully, we'll witness some positive changes in the IT industry of Pakistan during your tenure.
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Isnt this Govt supposed to be for 3 months?
So I was trying to find the lineage of Dr. Umar Saif, like I want my kids to grow up and be someone like him.... then I find that his father is a Colonel, sadly, I am not. So my appreciation and admiration of the podcast just fizzled out, as how can any ordinary Pakistani dream to be like him, unless they are a son of a Colonel/General?
Most of the talk about working, making contacts in Pakistan, and doing stuff could have only been done when you are from a specific background. I believe that Dr. Umar has a good heart, but his accomplishments come from a place of privilege. He isn't bad, his work isn't bad, but the fact that only a person from a specific background could have done this is bad.
Reminds me of the political elite talk in some of your podcasts, and now when I see the Pakistan and realize, how most people you see successful are mostly there because how their forefathers leached the country. Yes, it's coming from my hate towards an institution.
Why can't there be a 1,000 Dr. Umar's in this country? Because there aren't as many Colonel's in Pakistan.
Kind of makes me wonder, Shehzad, do you have someone in the family from the boots? ;)
22:20 Sindh ma ye sab milay ga
While what Dr. Umar Saif said about Indian IT industry made enormous sense, there are lots of niche IT companies that provide product engineering services instead of just staffing or body-shopping. In fact digital product engineering is increasing its share in the overall growing pie of IT services. In the end, its still services. But there is a lot of difference between such companies as well as pureplay staffing companies.
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Perhaps. But Western companies' intent for doing this is twofold: Reducing the immigration footprint and hiring cheap keypunchers in their country-of-origin.
Gyan kyun de rahe ho inko
@@adnan_hashmi Wow. You discovered it.
@@chandrakanthveluri9860 Better than using their psychic abilities like Bharati people do.
Shahbaz era was best in promoting IT industry. We were getting free Laptops free training and even free Internet.... I hope for the best while Shahbaz is coming back
One NAWAZ SHARIF PAWN INTERVIEWING ANOTHER...WHAT A COMBO
Dr. Umar Saif is any country's prized asset. Best wishes.
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The only encouraging comment coming from across the border.Thank you Sanjay.❤
In current world an IT company cannot survive without having its own products. I work in a French IT MNC, which has its largest workforce in India. All top IT companies has its campuses in India and everyone now focuses on research and new product developments.
Capgemini?
Yeah this guy has a surface knowledge and do not know India has moved up on the ladder focusing mainly on emerging and latest cutting edge technologies. Staff augmentation will not generate $200 B revenues.
@@ssmujooHe is saying what he hears in Pakistan about Indian IT or might have googled it so you are right he has surface knowledge about Indian IT industry....
@@SunShine_747 hahaha khayali pulaaav. 3 billion reserve hain khud ke paas aur billion dollars ke start up ki baat kar rha hai. Abe tujhe kis ne roka tha ab tak.
@@HarishSharma-uv1co They live in fool's paradise...
This person has a new vision ,
There is no competition and hate, with Neighbor's, but accepting changes .
If Shehzad knew about "Aarrti" he wouldn't support the so-called farmers protests (in reality they were "aarrti protests"), which hurt most of the Indian farmers.
I say this, because, he has problem with "Elite Aarrtis" selling farmer products in Pakistan but he supports that in India by supporting those protests.
The Indian Farmers movement was a mass movement. I doubt it was just the Aartis.
@@ThePakistanExperienceDon't know why you are deleting my comments. I am simply adding a reference, citing the evidence of my claim. The supreme court panel confirmed that 85.7% farmer bodies supported farm laws. You can verify that. Besides my criticism is regarding the principle here, whether a farmer should have the freedom to sell their product wherever they choose to...or not.
@@iDeepakRananope, farmer bodies were not consulted before that decision,i don't know how got that percentage.....and government handled it very badly, most of the time tried to bribe the representatives by "the lobby"....
@@nikhildeshmukh6221I added that reference a couple of times but those comments were deleted. I would suggest you to google and verify it. Secondly, please read my criticism which I have highlighted in the previous comment. It's regarding the principle. Shehzad agrees with these liberal economic policies when there is an entrepreneur/economist on the show but goes the other way in practical matters. That was my point.
@@iDeepakRanaalso have you watched recent video where rahul gandhi was having conversations with farmers wherein farmers said that if this bill was passed it, they would've made profits
No point in giving answers to @ThePakistaniExperience as I have watched several other podcast of him and he has biased opinions on the the current government
It's never a Billion Dollar Idea, but billion dollar execution what matters. If only ideas would have worth billion dollar than there would have been million billionaires.
Yes!
Being a student who deals with Imagery and listening to someone who have applied it in real world. I'm passionate to create a significant impact through it.
One of the few podcasts I’ve seen till the end, absolutely phenomenal material and delivery. Mentor!
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Great always we need more people like Dr. Umar Saif to come and share there Insight
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Dude this is the first time I am hating a discussion from this handle!! Most avoidable man for any discussion!!
Even though i dont agree with few of ur views, I appreciate what You are doing. keep up the great job bro. Im from India by the way. And happy independence day
To you too
KHAANE MEIN KYA KHAAYA LAUNDE?
Yeah I know you dont agree with all the positive things they said about Pakistan
@@Talhatahir-wp9rdOh so appreciating what he is doing is negating all good things in Pakistan?
Your Show Starting Music Is very uncomfortable... .
I am cyber security engineer . now India has more that 50% Global Capability Centers that's where the real money is company's from Mercedes to Nvidia , Visa to JP Morgan , Dassault to Boeing , Microsoft to amazon google all top company's had back office in India and India is place where all this new products are develop . no one can compete with us in IT
Hey can i get ur help regarding cyber scam I would b thankfull to you is u send me your email for further detail
Stop this chutiya and be upskilling everyone is trying to compete.
LETS GOO!! So glad he's back, another bingeworthy podcast :).
Aaj raat dobara nahin soun gee; sara schedule satyanass aap saab ki waja sae, but worth it ❤❤
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1:14:33 this is very very good initiative .
All over world most of people invest in real estate this very big mistake
Eg .2008 recession because of real
Estate
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Because of Real estate
Most of Pakistan people invest in real estate this is big mistake.
Pakistan focus on investment in manufacturing, services,IT
19:40 the points that Dr. umar saif are highlighted about farmimg in pakistan are applicable to india , espicially indian punjab as well
even that 'arhatia'(middle men) thing.
Skype was bought by Microsoft in 2011 and was used for Windows messenger and most of the features were integrated in Microsoft Teams, which is leader in Videoconferencing in US and comes with with Windows OS. Zoom has lost ground to Teams in US, India and Europe partly due to good product at low price and initially having server based in China (now they have servers in US and key markets) but lost race due to fear of data stored in China. They have just one product will go down same way like AOL, Netscape. Microsoft bundles with Windows OS gives Microsoft Teams advantage.
Interesting
Infosys has a product like Finacle which is a very successful core banking system. Indian tech companies build systems for companies globally. India is also the technology backbone of global capital markets and banking. There can be no revolution in Pakistan given the absolute anarchy and religious radicalization. Just yesterday multiple churches were burnt.
batein to startup ki aise chal rahi hai jaise koi halwa ho. I am not able to find even a single startup from Pakistan which comes in unicorn list.
I’m from Lahore, Pakistan 🇵🇰 I left Islam after reading Quran and listening Adam Seeker, Sahil Bhai, Zafar Heretics and Harris Sultan. I need your help…..
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these are the kind of podcasts we want, about time you come out of politics and focus on these kinds of podcasts.
Very well informed analysis and enlightened guest. Hope he becomes /starts the element of change in a country loosing out on hope for a better tommorow...A man of science and vision for his country & doesn't seem to suffer from national obsession against neighbour country.
I am mechanical Engineer and I am working in Top IT company in India. The logic matters and not software education alone. Skill can be imparted if there is aptitude.
The guest is missing the point, Indian IT companies have not thrived on labour arbitrage alone. That’s initial revolution, today, most of IT companies have matured processes to next level. They have Dev centres all over the world. Indian IT companies today build products, All major Product Techs have their RnD centres here.
Btw, do you know who is the father of Indian IT revolution? He was born in present day Pakistan. The Fakir Chand Kohli. If Pakistan hadn’t expelled all Hindus and Sikhs in 1947, imagine where they would have been in IT today…..
You rock! 😊
Populations were not meant to have been expelled but it happened And you seem to conveniently omit the fact that millions of people from present day India were similarly expelled/killed.
@@wkhan5LOL You don't know your history?
Jinnah was the biggest supporter of hizrat for all Muslims in India.
@@Ayushi_30_Rathore and your source for this dumb theory is???
@@wkhan5Lol there are books ok these. A popular book with all the evidence and citation you need is Population Exchange. Read it. And not the Butto-Zia history.
Wow shehzad! massive complement right at the beginning. You're reaching the right people as it seems. Umar saif, love the guy.
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Thank you for getting my question answered 😍 it means a lot
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Umar Saif again wow
need more people like Dr. Umar Saif to work for Pakistan
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India's UPI is now a global revolution in digital payment systems. In fact, now the India Stack is a global tech hot topic. So India's tech industry has evolved significantly and I have just given a few examples.
Please build toilets in India
19.4% of Indian households do not use toilet facilities.
Welcome to Dr.Umai Saif for becoming as a Federal Minister for Information Technology and Telecom!
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Congratulations to Dr. Umer Saif on becoming Interm IT Minister of Pakistan.
More power to Dr. Umar Saif
Hopefully you read all of my comments...
Good luck for future endeavours,👍
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What a great podcast! Loved it, it should have been much much longer. Thank you and best of luck to Umar Saif!
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Umar Saif ka a treat to watch! Thanks Shehzad ❤
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Great insightful podcast and yes Dr Umar Saif proved once again that shahbaz shareef is the best administrator we have!!
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Pakistan is lucky to have people like him
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Usse kya hota hai ? Desh to IMF se hi chalana hai
A worthy & insightful podcast.
More power to you Sir, Dr. Umer Saif. 🎖️
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MashaALLAH, what a super smart & highly intelligent guy, he is. Good to see him as Minister of IT. May ALLAH kareem gives more visionary & problem solver people to this country.
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21:26 No audio?? Censored??🤔
Tech issue
33:29 agricultural tax laga kr facilitate ker den
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Great Podcast.. Can relate to more or less similar situation in Indian Agriculture. 28:30 Future Contract and not Future Option Btw
The Pakistan Experience is in and of itself a marvelous social startup :)
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There are 23 iits producing 18000 eng a year, total no of employees of TCS is 600000, if this simple info on Google you can not account and you guys want a billion dollars start up
All the best to Mr.Umar Saif. Hope that he will survive in vortex of Pakistani politics.
"The Pakistan Experience" me bhi censorship? 21:23
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Great interview. Just wanted to put my two cents in. All successful start-up solve a problem. Chances are that the problem you have identified and solved locally will also be experienced by people else-where and you then scale up.
The key is to first identify the problem and then solve it. I have been thinking about this idea for a while now but I can't solve it so I will put it out in the ether and maybe someone will solve it. The local mom and pop shops in Pakistan have very rudimentary ways of tracking and managing their inventory. Its mostly done on pen and paper or excel (maybe). If someone can build a POS mobile solution with reporting built in, I think that would be quite useful. So a mobile app married with a bar code scanner coupled with ability to manually input data. So every time you make a sale you just scan the bar code or manually enter it. And it has built in reports around inventory and sales. Keep that data in the cloud and make it subscription based. If a Pakistani shop keeper will find it useful so will someone in Egypt or Tunisia. The issue will be to figure out the reports, I think.
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1:05:30 YTD Pakistani startups have raised $28 million, not $5.
1:25:30 Sheryl Sandberg
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8:11 Bro, 245 billion dollars ki industry HR ka kaam nahi karti hain. I have watched your podcast but it’s disappointing to hear that the facts shared by the experts is baseless, especially considering the significant size of India’s service sector.
Bhai, at least urdu to comprehend kar lo. He's saying that the companies have an HR model, not that the end product is HR. The employees are providing IT services but the profit margins are derived from pricing/wage differences in India vs developed countries.
What exactly was baseless here? He named a few companies built on this set up as well.
Bhai, Urdu comprehend karne ki toh baat hi na kare aap! Hum samajhte hai kyunki ye bhi hindustaani jubaan hai. When he took the examples, he is misquoting TCS hiring people and sending the people to FORD. Arey TCS pehli baat toh HR company hai nahi, they are specialised in Information Technology. The current market capitalisation of TCS is $152bn.
In 2015, TCS was ranked 64th overall in the Forbes "World's Most Innovative Companies" ranking, making it one of the highest-ranked IT services companies and a top Indian company.
I am talking about TCS only because this gentleman started spitting his “well read” facts by quoting TCS.
Agar ye HR companies hoti toh, ye last 2 decades me itne technological reforms nahi hote. Every year India is adding 1400 to 1500 startups. But khair chaddo ji..
but Dill ka Rishta App is not working now
He is correct
I am electrical engineer
Working as Consultant for one of the largest IT company of world
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It's no more body shopping in Indian IT industry because the salary levels in the industry have gone up a lot and there are many low cost alternatives available for western countries. Indian IT industry has moved now to consulting, KPO , AI, Blockchain , product engineering, and data analytics etc. even though software development and other legacy services are still continued in combination packages.
Great to listen to him again...! Thank you
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A big fan of you Dr. Umar Saif !
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Dairy supply chain is managed via cooperatives in the US as well. Cooperatives are the most optimal solution for the dairy market.
Interesting
Amul is not the only dairy cooperative in India. There’s KMF, Aavin and so on and so forth. The cooperatives compete among themselves as well - and the farmer benefits ultimately. In India more than 60% consume packaged milk. Also for farmers in India - the one source of steady income is milk : that they sell to dairy cooperatives. This keeps many rural families afloat.
Excellent. Invite him often.
Very insightful n forward thinking.Please maintain the same Quality of Podcast . From Bangalore India.
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They forgot the most important thing, that a foreign it company like amazon, google, Microsoft they r taking revenue from indian market after giving their salaries of indian employees
One of the best infact he best podcast I have watched and listened to date.
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Shezad too good. Invite more like these from IT and Core Engineering to urban planners
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IT revolution is not easy to come for Pakistan. India started with call centres and has migrated to high end research. And we could do because of exchange rate benefit. We could peovide 10-15 people for the price of one. That advantage is still there. Also Indians have skilled themselves. Now attracting projects and companies from West is not easy for Pak, because they see an existing ecosystem in India. Thats why there is a stupendous growth in India in recent years.
It's not that way if they are more innovative with their exchange rate than us they have got high probability to succeed provided they invest in their education which is an uphill task for them. Just listen to some of the students from RUclips channels u will understand there is a huge gap in skills even the basic skills.
call centers came after not before and **no** we are not doing any high end research
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@@ThePakistanExperience np
PTV and Radio Pakistan can open their studios and equipment to content creators by creating shared co content creation spaces.
amazing idea
@@bellowcloudlion1656 they got so many studio, 🎙️ so much equipment sitting idle.
Wow great ti see such talented people on your podcast. Would love to see more talented people like Dr Umar Saif. He made ITU Pakistans most premier university of Computer science
It's naive on part of the "expert" to call Indian IT industry HR management companies. TCS, Infosys and other Indian services companies make an equal amount of money by selling Technology products in addition to services. Infosys and TCS are leaders in core banking, AI/ML and other industry focussed products. The expert's understanding of IT services industry is atleast a decade or two outdated.
Best illustration of Making Castles in the Air
@21:20 Nahi bhai.
Hamara Basic flaw in agriculture ye hai k jo kissan ganna aur gandum laga rha hai, uska baap dada bhi vohi lagata tha.. aur uska beta bhi vohi lagae ga.
Majority of kissan, due to lack of knowledge, never try any thing new. They are very reluctant to try new tech.
Puri duniya me 2.5kg -3kg per acre seed use hota hai for cultivation of wheat and in pakistan we use 50Kg seed for the same area and even get less yield than rest of the world.
duniya crop management ko chor chuki hai, they say that we need to do proper "soil Management" and that in turn will automatically manage your crop.
but yaha per sirf ek Asif Sharif sb hain jinho ne is se milta julta concept introduce karia hai.
I disagree with Dr. sahab regarding the intellectual property rights. Them not being enforced in Pakistan properly is a strength of Pakistan. Not its weakness. I am a Tech Entrepreneur in China and the reason Chinese companies became so competitive is because of their lack of respect for International IP. Who cares if foriegn companies cant enforce them in Pakistan? Pakistan is a big market and copied solutions can be developed in Pakistan for Pakistani market. Then when others copy the same idea, it is the job of the entrepreneur to improve faster and maintain dominance. A time then comes when the product is substantially different from foriegn markets due to the local market's response. It is that time when the startup can be repeated as an experiment internationally.
Pakistani brothers should focus less on attracting foriegn VCs and more on local VCs, crowdfunding (banned in Pakistan for now) and local Angel investment groups to create a high competition market. Foriegn VCs and companies will come as a by product. It should not be the end goal to attract them.
Sheryl Sandberg was the Fb/meta COO Dr. sb was referring to.
A little correction: Estonian's population is 1.3m not 2.5m.
Btw, Wise and Bolt are from Estonia as well. Wise is made by some Ex-Skype guys, again maybe inspired from Skype itself.
Wyze or wise?
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Shehzad I love your Content.... I am from India and found your podcast suddenly and started listening.... and it's refreshing.... the topics are wide ranging.... And as an Indian I love your long form content because there is so much to learn from your podcasts:- about history, politics, economics of Pakistan and the subcontinent.... Great Job .. keep bringing great guests!! Faisal Warraich and Syed Muzzamil and Umar Saif are my favourites till now!!
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He just joined the federal caretaker government. Hopefully he can do a few good things in the next 4 - 5 months that this government will get.
A great talk.
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Bw the Face book COO name is Sheryl Sandberg. She wrote a bestseller book LEAN In. Now she quit META.
I think It is most Educative Podcast...I think Indian don't do this type of Podcast..Being an Indian I don't miss such podcast.
🤣🤣. Bahut podcast h aise
@@krishna-de2jb Just Name few I would like to hear.
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@@asishrath437raj shamani is better than all combined....and kamaths also have thier podcast...they interview people who are already billionaire and unicorn founders....and some are with 100 billion dollar company founders also😊...
@@asishrath437search yourself. you are educated just type proper words. Period
Can someone share link for app..dil ka rista?
we need more people like him.
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La Pakistan: Why build a Billion Dollars industry when we can directly beg a Billion Dollars. 🤣🤣🤣
there is a concept of Loan in the World. khair in jahil sanatanio ko kya pata
Sanatan ka log hi America 🇺🇸 ma CEO bane hai😂😂😂😂😂
Andhnamaji log din ma 5 baar namaz padho aur koi kaam nhi karna hai😂😂😂😂
@@Talhatahir-wp9rd loan ke byaaj dina padta hai. par byaaj to harram hai tumari asmani kittab me. or yaa bato aaj tak sirf tumra chinese abu ko chod kar kiska paisa wapas kiya hai?? chinese ko be tum byaaj he wapas kar raha ho. Loan tum china se lete ho kyu ke chinese log bikh nai deta hai tuma wo tum america or UAE se lete ho.
@@dharmendramishra4975 Mujhe nahi lagta kai wo log sanatani hai wo bas indians hain. or jahan tak Namazi hona ke baat hai inhein namazion ka mulk mai hai tera desh kai ghareeb bande kahte peetai hain or apne gharwalon ki daikh bhal karte hain
Cautiously hopeful about Pakistan's future after a really long time
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I think in the 1st podcast with Dr. Umar, he confused IIT Kharagpur with that of Kanpur & said its in south (Sundar Pichai is from IIT Kharagpur), but Kharagpur is also not from South, its in West Bengal.
21:25 sound issue here.
Apologies
Do invite BILAL GHAURI he a columnist from jang paper.
He likes you in politics who supports principal instead of parties or people.
He also has a RUclips channel name TARAZZO in which he makes series on all 3 institution of Pakistan and their roll in history from 47-22 with unbiased opinion and fact's from different sources.
Please do make a podcast with him on Pakistan future it's going to be success.
((its not spam just a fan of his work))
Plz invite him again. And explain in simple words
Down to earth and humble personality!
Please ask the good gentleman to Google about Global Capability Centers in India . And then he will realize how wrong or dated her is about indian IT sector
in the podcast you said its 3 hours but we get only around 1 hour 46 mins. why?
Ghalti se bol dia hoga. We haven't removed anything
I was returning from tirupathi in train and i had a passenger who was doing research in soil analysis
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@ThePakistanExperience ibthink pakistan is planning coeporate farming and this kind of research is needed. But according to kaise bengali coporate farming is not good in the interest of pakistan
The Government/Private Entities need to sit down with Universities, I just entered my Final Year, and so many people had to give up their ideas about AgroTech because the barrier-to-entry is so high
i am Living in Estonia from Last three years its true they have one of best startup eco systmen 🇪🇪 Infact anyone can open there company is Estonia while sitting in Pakistan
To say that Indian IT companies only do body-shopping is being rather naïve. Indian IT professional with TT tables. What crap. Secondly IT professionals don't get trained by just opening engineering colleges and surely not in a year or two. Will take decades of consistent effort to create the eco-system.
First and foremost one needs a supply chain of quality students at Class XII level. For 1.4 million engineering seats, 4 million CBSE and 14 million State Board students compete, which is 13X students at Class XII. This has taken India decades to build. Infrastructure, quality teachers, parental support and a thriving private sector education system. That I think should be also be addressed simultaneously or else there will be a mismatch is supply, demand and quality. Not the Madrassa type.
19.4% of Indian households do not use toilet facilities.
Build toilets in your country, and don't waste your time
Wow waited alot for yhis podcast Dr.Umer sb again❤
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Wanted to just see the intro to see who this guy was... ended up spending 2 hours. That was 2 hours very well spent. Lots of useful insights... irrespective of where you are from.
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So to improve your agri yields you decide to hand ove land to the army to handle agriculture. I would be very worried if I was a neighbour of the land being cropped by the army. Army by it's very nature will become the local bully and will have first option on irrigation, seeds, fertiliser etc. Armed Forces business in Pakistan are successful because they get preferential treatment. You keep doing the same thing again and then are amazed when it doesn't work
I also listened the first episode in full
21:23 Sound issues Shahzad Bhai
Sorry
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