Hello, not trying to be snarky at all but wanted to share a couple things as someone who’s been not only in manufacturing but in productions exactly like this. 1) the machine you saw “holding down” the tile floor as is dried was not holding it down. The tiles steady dried and that machine is a suction lift. They lay the tile as the whole unit then use the suction lift to place it. Yes it was holding It there while it was secured but not to dry. 2) The 3/4” floor board you didn’t like was not the full floor substructure. It is multiple layers one of which was attached already to the dried tile floor assembly that later Is attached. If it were only the one 3/4” board it would twist and sag and droop. Anyway I thought your video was great and thorough but just out of context on a few full production process portions that incorrectly undermined the intended quality. This is exactly why some manufacturers don’t allow close up and full access reviews… context.
Thank you! Just traded my sloppy made 2016 Entegra Cornerstone for a Tiffin bus 6 months ago could not be happier!! No comparison between Entegra vs Tiffin. So glad I traded. Now I have a well made coach....
We watched our Tiffin being built. Very Cool. They let us on board the incomplete RV, and explained the systems to us. We asked them to fix some cosmetic issues, which they promptly did. Top Quality....
Gland to hear from you Glenn... Very good tour of the tiffin factory, In fact, Tiffin is on my short list for my next coach.. Can't wait to see the next vid of the paint shop... Tell Julia hi, see ya soon.....
Great to see you again. Very informative I have not taken the Tiffin tour. I am in the process of purchasing a new coach for next year. I'm looking at custom coach companies like Fourtravel, Newell, and Prevost converter companies maybe Newmar Kingair. Tell your beautiful wife Julia hello.
So glad you are back in the states. Great video and I look foreword to someday meeting you and your wife. We are Renegade Super C people but I don't think that will be an issue.
How’s my favorite RUclipsr? You totally NAILED IT! What a wonderful tour! I absolutely love Tiffin! I spoke with Mr. Bob Tiffin just the other day. I’m considering a new Wayfarer. Please say hi to your lovely Julia. When will you guys be back in the states? I just adore you both. I’m really looking forward for your next adventure/update.
Glenn, I agree with you completely about all the trash everywhere. My wife and I did the Entegra, Newmar and Tiffin tours all in one week back in 2015. The things that really stuck with us from the Tiffin tour was the amount of trash everywhere and the assembly line feel. Obviously all RVs are built on some sort of assembly line, but the Tiffin factory reminded us of an automotive assembly line in a UAW plant. Maybe some of that was the size of the operation. In any case, we came away from the Tiffin tour feeling that a push for more quantity usually translates to problems with quality. Tiffin has some nice products with nice features at very competitive prices, but we decided we would not feel comfortable buying a coach manufactured in their facility. Maybe I am too old fashioned, but if you can't keep your workspace clean then I question the attention to detail you are putting into your products. Thanks for the video, it was interesting to see that everything seems to be in the same state it was three years ago.
They actually just announced that as of Dec 1 2018, visitors will no longer be allowed at any of their production facilities other than the guided tour. No more 'freely visiting' I've had a Thor Vegas and a Winnebago Forza. The Tiffin has been by far the best built coach of the group. Thanks for the video!
Glenn I wish you could put out videos daily as I have found them so entertaining and informative since your first. Have watched them all multiple times actually and then used them as an educational and inspirational aide for the wife to manage expectations when I decided to buy a ‘19 Cornerstone a couple of months ago. Pray for me! Haha.
Well, good luck with the Cornerstone and here's hoping you don't have too many issues. As for posting daily, that could never happen as the whole process takes so long. Days in fact to edit alone. But the good news is that there is a new video coming out this week. So that should keep you occupied for a while.
Great video Glenn, We just came back for the Newmar plant tour in Nappanee IN. Their operations were very clean and safety minded, With Newmar, they will only build 11 coaches a day regardless of demand. Tiffin is well over that number. I was very surprised by all the trash on the floor. It's not if but when OSHA will be making a visit. How much trash is left in the coach for the new owner to clean up? This is one of the many reasons we are going with Newmar for our new coach. Thanks for the video!
I don’t understand all the comments about an assembly line being messy? You can give all the reasons what that may lead too but in the end it doesn’t matter. Tiffin makes a quality coach. Sounds to me some people just like other products more and are looking for any cotton picking reason to bash Tiffin.
Thanks Glen! Missed you guys; how's Julia? I own a Tiffin, and despite some initial warranty work (similar to all other makes) we're very happy. Thanks for sharing your tour!
I like the Tiffins finished look but not sure now having done the tour that it's as good as it looks. Glade you are happy with yours. At the end of the day that all that really matters.
I was shocked what you showed about this factory you would never see that at the Winnebago Factory and at this point I wouldn't buy a Tiffin and I have been looking. Do yourself a favor view the Winnebago tour. It is amazing.
I too was thinking how dirty the floor was. Maybe there is a night shirt do does some sweeping. I did the ORV (Outdoors RV) factory tour in eastern OR. Yes, a fast moving work force, but much clear facility. BUT, no pictures or video allowed...We did it the day after we bought our unit, and they were building our floorplan that day.
Nice video Glenn. One must ask with all that debris in the isles, all around the floor there must be a hazards in the workplace. Do they ask a waiver be signed for possibly injury? The demand seems overwhelming at all RV manufacturers today. The supply seems to not have any OSHA occupational standards in place. Money rules. Oh I really enjoyed the Amish CNC machines. LOL
I've looked and looked yet I can't seem to find another tour which allows a tourist so much access and info to dole out. They all seem like a company production but Tiffin..
If you look at the amount of rubbish around, with you wondering if they ever clean up? Of course if they didn't within a couple of days you would not be able to walk around. I'm sure they clean every day after they close. Perhaps the reason other motorhome manufactures don't want you seeing the whole process. Good coach, quiet and well insulated. Glad we bought a Tiffin.
Did you tour the Service center or the campground at Tiffin ? If the dealer can't fix it you can take it back to the tiffin plant and they will fix it. Also Bob Tiffin answered the phone when My friend called to get a roof repaired that Lazy Days Tampa couldn't repair after 4 attempts. Bob said bring it right over. That is why my next coach will be a Tiffin.
Most manufacturing tours limit where visitors can go because of liability concerns. Tiffin has a great customer service reputation. My choice is Newmar. They have both batt and foam board insulation in their walls. I believe their floors are 1.5" thick. Newmar's price does run about a 30% higher, but they only build 8-10 units a day. You do get what you pay for.
Insulation.... with polystyrene it's all down to the type and rating etc and reduces (like closed-cell foam) the likelihood of condensation etc. For the most part, both the newer poly and foam blocks are complete cut above fibre based materials. But... they all have their pros and cons. Another pro is their sound proofing qualities.
Just seeing this video a year after posting. Not quite certain your reasoning for fiber insulation over foam. Always told that fiber could 'settle' even in a home. I would think in a coach, chances of that happening would increase greatly. As well, my thoughts to "R"-value of styrofoam over fiber would be greater, or am I incorrect? I just know I'd give anything to pull off interior aluminum panels from my 30 year old Airstream motorhome and have closed-cell foam sprayed in, or even ceramic insulation. But I don't want to remove complete interior for such a project. Overall, a great video of the Tiffin Production plant. And yes, I can see the concerns for the waste. I worked in a production environment (construction, and processing) and NOTHING was allowed on the floors at ANY TIME! We never knew when an OSHA Inspector may show. Surprised that Tiffin doesn't have the same concern. OSHA Fines are nothing to sneeze at. Same for PPE for employees.
Excellent Video but your comments about the floor thickness compared to the Entegra is of concern. Why? I would imagine the thicker and best insulated with some flexibility would be best. Can you tell us?.
I learned very little from this accept you like the look of the product and don't like the mess. How about wall construction, and materials, the construction differences that make your RV last over time?
There is a reason companies don't allow video taping and, although I can't speak for Entegra, Newmar has proprietary methods and equipment that they protect. So it isn't a matter of only allowing you to see what they want you to see it is a matter of allowing you to see all they can safely. You see, many states have safety laws which apparently does not include Alabama, because I saw a dozen or more safety violations in your factory tour. I will say, (I am biased because I have a Newmar Dutch Star) that the Newmar factory was spotless. Another complaint that you had was about Amish craftsmanship or the lack thereof. Although it is misleading to make people think that the RVs from Indiana are hand crafted by Amish artisans, it is, however, true that they employ a large number of Amish who are well know for a strong work ethic. I think Red Branch would brag the same way if there were any Amish in Alabama ...but there aren't. Or certainly not in any great numbers. Tiffin makes a fine RV but after seeing the video, I would have to wonder does the slovenliness of the shop reflect the overall nature of their work. Glad I bought a Newmar.
That is exactly what I was saying.... it was so dirty and so much crap on the floor that I was a little disappointed, but the end product was beautiful.
I'm thinking you've discovered the reason Entegra don't want you wandering around on your own and taking photos/videos. Their factory rubbish situation probably looks even worse.
I cant beleive that the UK has now overtaken the US in the health and safety culture - if I went around a factory like that in the UK I would have to wear hi-vis vest, steel toe caps, hard hat, eye protection, cut level 4 gloves etc etc - I retire in 5 years and cant wait to do what you guys are doing
No place I have ever worked could have gotten away with housekeeping like that. A work environment like that makes you wonder if quality really is a top priority ............. well... then .. I guess that applies to the entire motor home industry doesn't it
GREAT video, and I have to agree... the rubbish is awful. You would think as proud as they are to allow people to come see the quality of their workmanship, that good housekeeping would be on order.
The dirty cluttered work areas are a reflection of management attitude. It's unsafe and unhealthy. Visit an automobile factory... You can usually eat off the floor it's so clean. That dirt gets into sensitive electronics making them fail early. Bottom line: you are far more productive when you're organized. There should be a protocol for scrap handling at the point of use. Otherwise you're handling it twice, and that adds to the cost. These people would need HOURS at shift end to do a proper cleanup- again adding to cost. A dirty shop doesn't mean you're more productive; it just shows disorganization and lack of professionalism.
Factories don’t have to be that messy and unsafe. Go visit a Toyota facility if you happen to be near one. Night and day from this. Unfortunately, most US manufacturers still try and fly by the seat of their pants. Part of the reason corporations are moving facilities out of the country. Also, can I ask you what types of PPE you were required to wear on the tour? It seems incredibly irresponsible to have people in the facility without safety toe shoes and safety glasses. The guys at 7:47 should have had hard hats on as well.
The only thing given was a pair of cheap safety glasses. I could walk up to a guy welding in a pair of open toe sandals. Absolutely crazy in my opinion.
It looks like your typical dirty rv factory. Rv industry needs to get more professional.not just slap em together as fast as you can cause you have a lot of orders. I'll wait a little longer for mine if it is done right an professionally.
If you dislike your Entegra so much why do you still have it and why didyou buy it. Get a Tiffin and lets see how you start complaining. There is a you Tube of a family taking an entire tour of the Entegra plant. Watch it and you will see the do what they say.
I agree...he say "Entegra looks like they put their paint on with a brush". I own an Entegra Aspire and have seen many other Entegras....the paint is what always catches my eye. But something tells me this dude is just a constant complainer.
I work at tiffins and I wanna see you build an RV on time without a deadline, while remaining your criticism of cleanliness. it's easy to make a video. you were on the outside stay there.
I think if you watch the video you will see that I am very complimentary about Tiffin, some areas need tiding up for the safety of both visitors and staff alike. Maybe you should visit a few factory tours and see the comparison for your self. Then maybe you're have a different point of view.
@@glenntomkins5237 Before hand most factory settings such as this and others let workers know that a tour group is coming through and try to keep areas clean and tidy but like the comment above deadlines are harsh and companies not workers make it to where its difficult to clean if you havent worked it dont judge it trust me its not fun for workers either.
As you are working ,you create waste ,Duh. I'm quite sure they clean their areas from time to time as they produce vehicles . I think that was a bit of too much nit picking.........
that factory no good bad workers never clean up that means there works the same dirty will be in everything you have to have cleaned workplace to make good RV
Hey! Not to be rude. But you're in Alabama. Not Amish country. You need to get up to Indiana for the real craftmenship. You should of did your homework before degrading the Amish in your video.
This guy is complaining about how dirty the warehouse is . HELLOOOOOOOOO it’s a warehouse it’s part of production . Every company that produces anything has a warehouse just as messy . Now u see why integra doesn’t want filming because of petty complaints like the one you just made
Jerry Stotts u can’t compare a toyota plant where there is an assembly line to a place where motorcoaches are built . These are rolling homes . Go to a site where a house is being built and u will see the same amount of rubish
Hello, not trying to be snarky at all but wanted to share a couple things as someone who’s been not only in manufacturing but in productions exactly like this. 1) the machine you saw “holding down” the tile floor as is dried was not holding it down. The tiles steady dried and that machine is a suction lift. They lay the tile as the whole unit then use the suction lift to place it. Yes it was holding It there while it was secured but not to dry. 2) The 3/4” floor board you didn’t like was not the full floor substructure. It is multiple layers one of which was attached already to the dried tile floor assembly that later Is attached. If it were only the one 3/4” board it would twist and sag and droop.
Anyway I thought your video was great and thorough but just out of context on a few full production process portions that incorrectly undermined the intended quality. This is exactly why some manufacturers don’t allow close up and full access reviews… context.
Glenn;
Glad to see you back in the US, I agree that Tiffin makes a great product. Looking forward to the paint shop posting.
Thank you! Just traded my sloppy made 2016 Entegra Cornerstone for a Tiffin bus 6 months ago could not be happier!! No comparison between Entegra vs Tiffin. So glad I traded. Now I have a well made coach....
Hi Robert, that's great news and I'm sure a lot of people will read your comment with interest.
How’s it doing a year later. I have seen several behind tow trucks.
I agree
G B so true and that is basically the only place to get repairs performed.
We watched our Tiffin being built. Very Cool. They let us on board the incomplete RV, and explained the systems to us. We asked them to fix some cosmetic issues, which they promptly did. Top Quality....
Gland to hear from you Glenn... Very good tour of the tiffin factory, In fact, Tiffin is on my short list for my next coach.. Can't wait to see the next vid of the paint shop... Tell Julia hi, see ya soon.....
I love the smell of a Woodshop!!! Brings me back to my childhood.
Great to see you again.
Very informative I have not taken the Tiffin tour. I am in the process of purchasing a new coach for next year. I'm looking at custom coach companies like Fourtravel, Newell, and Prevost converter companies maybe Newmar Kingair.
Tell your beautiful wife Julia hello.
So glad you are back in the states. Great video and I look foreword to someday meeting you and your wife. We are Renegade Super C people but I don't think that will be an issue.
sure is bizarre all that mess...lol
Most interesting video ! Thanks for sharing 👍
You have to see it first hand, working surrounded by all that mess is one thing. But allowing the potential clients to see it it another.
How’s my favorite RUclipsr? You totally NAILED IT! What a wonderful tour! I absolutely love Tiffin! I spoke with Mr. Bob Tiffin just the other day. I’m considering a new Wayfarer. Please say hi to your lovely Julia. When will you guys be back in the states? I just adore you both. I’m really looking forward for your next adventure/update.
i and thanks for the comments, we are coming back over 12th Oct so more videos to come.
Glenn, I agree with you completely about all the trash everywhere. My wife and I did the Entegra, Newmar and Tiffin tours all in one week back in 2015. The things that really stuck with us from the Tiffin tour was the amount of trash everywhere and the assembly line feel. Obviously all RVs are built on some sort of assembly line, but the Tiffin factory reminded us of an automotive assembly line in a UAW plant. Maybe some of that was the size of the operation. In any case, we came away from the Tiffin tour feeling that a push for more quantity usually translates to problems with quality. Tiffin has some nice products with nice features at very competitive prices, but we decided we would not feel comfortable buying a coach manufactured in their facility. Maybe I am too old fashioned, but if you can't keep your workspace clean then I question the attention to detail you are putting into your products. Thanks for the video, it was interesting to see that everything seems to be in the same state it was three years ago.
Well said.
So what did you buy? And how was the service after the sale?
Thank you for a very interesting video. have a great day
They actually just announced that as of Dec 1 2018, visitors will no longer be allowed at any of their production facilities other than the guided tour. No more 'freely visiting'
I've had a Thor Vegas and a Winnebago Forza. The Tiffin has been by far the best built coach of the group. Thanks for the video!
James Burley That makes this video even more valuable.
Glenn I wish you could put out videos daily as I have found them so entertaining and informative since your first. Have watched them all multiple times actually and then used them as an educational and inspirational aide for the wife to manage expectations when I decided to buy a ‘19 Cornerstone a couple of months ago. Pray for me! Haha.
Well, good luck with the Cornerstone and here's hoping you don't have too many issues. As for posting daily, that could never happen as the whole process takes so long. Days in fact to edit alone. But the good news is that there is a new video coming out this week. So that should keep you occupied for a while.
So great to hear from you guys. Hope all is well.
We are all fine thank you, and just about to arrive back in the US for another stint.
Great video Glenn, We just came back for the Newmar plant tour in Nappanee IN. Their operations were very clean and safety minded, With Newmar, they will only build 11 coaches a day regardless of demand. Tiffin is well over that number. I was very surprised by all the trash on the floor. It's not if but when OSHA will be making a visit. How much trash is left in the coach for the new owner to clean up? This is one of the many reasons we are going with Newmar for our new coach. Thanks for the video!
Tiffin makes 13 a day wow two more
Newmars are cheaper too. About $50,000 cheaper. You get what you pay for.
I don’t understand all the comments about an assembly line being messy? You can give all the reasons what that may lead too but in the end it doesn’t matter. Tiffin makes a quality coach. Sounds to me some people just like other products more and are looking for any cotton picking reason to bash Tiffin.
Thanks Glen! Missed you guys; how's Julia? I own a Tiffin, and despite some initial warranty work (similar to all other makes) we're very happy. Thanks for sharing your tour!
I like the Tiffins finished look but not sure now having done the tour that it's as good as it looks. Glade you are happy with yours. At the end of the day that all that really matters.
I have worked in factories we always cleanup at the end of shift .
I was shocked what you showed about this factory you would never see that at the Winnebago Factory and at this point I wouldn't buy a Tiffin and I have been looking. Do yourself a favor view the Winnebago tour. It is amazing.
I too was thinking how dirty the floor was. Maybe there is a night shirt do does some sweeping. I did the ORV (Outdoors RV) factory tour in eastern OR. Yes, a fast moving work force, but much clear facility. BUT, no pictures or video allowed...We did it the day after we bought our unit, and they were building our floorplan that day.
Great job !
Nice video Glenn. One must ask with all that debris in the isles, all around the floor there must be a hazards in the workplace. Do they ask a waiver be signed for possibly injury? The demand seems overwhelming at all RV manufacturers today. The supply seems to not have any OSHA occupational standards in place. Money rules. Oh I really enjoyed the Amish CNC machines. LOL
Would love to see you do a tour of the Newmar factory just to compare
It's on my list, but it wont be for a while as we are heading West.
Question were did you get your living room and kitchen carpet matts
I've looked and looked yet I can't seem to find another tour which allows a tourist so much access and info to dole out. They all seem like a company production but Tiffin..
If you look at the amount of rubbish around, with you wondering if they ever clean up? Of course if they didn't within a couple of days you would not be able to walk around. I'm sure they clean every day after they close. Perhaps the reason other motorhome manufactures don't want you seeing the whole process. Good coach, quiet and well insulated. Glad we bought a Tiffin.
Did you tour the Service center or the campground at Tiffin ?
If the dealer can't fix it you can take it back to the tiffin plant and they will fix it.
Also Bob Tiffin answered the phone when My friend called to get a roof repaired that Lazy Days Tampa couldn't repair after 4 attempts. Bob said bring it right over.
That is why my next coach will be a Tiffin.
Yes and the service centre was another horror story with more than 100 coaches waiting and people having to wait 3-4 weeks before being seen.
New tiffin ordered then , out with old in with new 👍🏻
I suppose, when you or anyone is cooking at your home, the kitchen is spotless. No dirty pots, nothing on the counters.
Most manufacturing tours limit where visitors can go because of liability concerns. Tiffin has a great customer service reputation. My choice is Newmar. They have both batt and foam board insulation in their walls. I believe their floors are 1.5" thick. Newmar's price does run about a 30% higher, but they only build 8-10 units a day. You do get what you pay for.
Insulation.... with polystyrene it's all down to the type and rating etc and reduces (like closed-cell foam) the likelihood of condensation etc. For the most part, both the newer poly and foam blocks are complete cut above fibre based materials. But... they all have their pros and cons. Another pro is their sound proofing qualities.
I'm trying to decide which manufacturer to purchase from. It's very telling that Tiffin allows recording and others don't.
When will we get part 2 ? 🤔😎
Just seeing this video a year after posting. Not quite certain your reasoning for fiber insulation over foam. Always told that fiber could 'settle' even in a home. I would think in a coach, chances of that happening would increase greatly. As well, my thoughts to "R"-value of styrofoam over fiber would be greater, or am I incorrect? I just know I'd give anything to pull off interior aluminum panels from my 30 year old Airstream motorhome and have closed-cell foam sprayed in, or even ceramic insulation. But I don't want to remove complete interior for such a project.
Overall, a great video of the Tiffin Production plant. And yes, I can see the concerns for the waste. I worked in a production environment (construction, and processing) and NOTHING was allowed on the floors at ANY TIME! We never knew when an OSHA Inspector may show. Surprised that Tiffin doesn't have the same concern. OSHA Fines are nothing to sneeze at. Same for PPE for employees.
Tiffin builds them so fast the clean up at night, sorry but Tiffin is a far better RV in soo many aspects it's a production line what do you expect?
But what motor homes do they make
Excellent Video but your comments about the floor thickness compared to the Entegra is of concern. Why? I would imagine the thicker and best insulated with some flexibility would be best. Can you tell us?.
The Entegra floor thickness is very impressive and you can really feel how solidly built it is IMO nothing moves or squeaks even after 2.5 years.
Glenn where is all the Amish people that makes all the handmaid cabinets
I learned very little from this accept you like the look of the product and don't like the mess. How about wall construction, and materials, the construction differences that make your RV last over time?
I agree
nicely done... a little OCD on the rubbish aspects but its good to see a new fresh look at Tiffin
Believe me, I cut out so much video about the rubbish as it was everywhere.
There is a reason companies don't allow video taping and, although I can't speak for Entegra, Newmar has proprietary methods and equipment that they protect. So it isn't a matter of only allowing you to see what they want you to see it is a matter of allowing you to see all they can safely. You see, many states have safety laws which apparently does not include Alabama, because I saw a dozen or more safety violations in your factory tour. I will say, (I am biased because I have a Newmar Dutch Star) that the Newmar factory was spotless. Another complaint that you had was about Amish craftsmanship or the lack thereof. Although it is misleading to make people think that the RVs from Indiana are hand crafted by Amish artisans, it is, however, true that they employ a large number of Amish who are well know for a strong work ethic. I think Red Branch would brag the same way if there were any Amish in Alabama ...but there aren't. Or certainly not in any great numbers. Tiffin makes a fine RV but after seeing the video, I would have to wonder does the slovenliness of the shop reflect the overall nature of their work. Glad I bought a Newmar.
Tiffin is one of the Best!
That is exactly what I was saying.... it was so dirty and so much crap on the floor that I was a little disappointed, but the end product was beautiful.
I'm thinking you've discovered the reason Entegra don't want you wandering around on your own and taking photos/videos. Their factory rubbish situation probably looks even worse.
The only thing they have that is a Winnebago idea is the wiring.
Why dont you trade for tiffin?
I cant beleive that the UK has now overtaken the US in the health and safety culture - if I went around a factory like that in the UK I would have to wear hi-vis vest, steel toe caps, hard hat, eye protection, cut level 4 gloves etc etc - I retire in 5 years and cant wait to do what you guys are doing
In the UK you need to ware safety glasses to take a dump !
Great Escape 😂😂😂
I'm surprised that OSHA isn't getting after them about all the safety hazards.
Amazing how they get away with it.
No place I have ever worked could have gotten away with housekeeping like that. A work environment like that makes you wonder if quality really is a top priority ............. well... then .. I guess that applies to the entire motor home industry doesn't it
I’m sure every person in that shop had safety glasses on
GREAT video, and I have to agree... the rubbish is awful. You would think as proud as they are to allow people to come see the quality of their workmanship, that good housekeeping would be on order.
You really have to experience it to understand it. Now my garage at home is a mess, so for me to think it was messy is really saying something.
You keep going on about the mess... well that isn’t anything compared to other shops...
Your also going in the middle of a work day.
I have hymer ad Europa 6.5 meters
The dirty cluttered work areas are a reflection of management attitude. It's unsafe and unhealthy. Visit an automobile factory... You can usually eat off the floor it's so clean. That dirt gets into sensitive electronics making them fail early. Bottom line: you are far more productive when you're organized. There should be a protocol for scrap handling at the point of use. Otherwise you're handling it twice, and that adds to the cost. These people would need HOURS at shift end to do a proper cleanup- again adding to cost. A dirty shop doesn't mean you're more productive; it just shows disorganization and lack of professionalism.
very intelligent i'm jealous
There are no amish in Alabama
V Moore - Correct! - It is Newmar that employs the Amish craft people.
But is there trash laying around ...?
Trash means there working hard not worrying about cleaning their worried about the product
Maybe you should have bought a Tiffin!!
Boeing aircraft make the wire harness the same way.
It's fascinating watching how they do that.
Take the Newmar tour. You won’t see all the trash and the wood work is done by Amish men and women.
Trash means there working hard not worrying about cleaning their worried about the product
Appalling. Shocking factory. Never thought it was a quality product.
all that stuff on the floors of the factory I bet gets drug into the coach during the manufacturing process
Thank you for your effort making this!! Agree, wasn't impressed by all the rubbish around and HES.
That’s because there are no Amish in Alabama that’s not a state that they live in
Factories don’t have to be that messy and unsafe. Go visit a Toyota facility if you happen to be near one. Night and day from this. Unfortunately, most US manufacturers still try and fly by the seat of their pants. Part of the reason corporations are moving facilities out of the country.
Also, can I ask you what types of PPE you were required to wear on the tour? It seems incredibly irresponsible to have people in the facility without safety toe shoes and safety glasses. The guys at 7:47 should have had hard hats on as well.
The only thing given was a pair of cheap safety glasses. I could walk up to a guy welding in a pair of open toe sandals. Absolutely crazy in my opinion.
It looks like your typical dirty rv factory. Rv industry needs to get more professional.not just slap em together as fast as you can cause you have a lot of orders. I'll wait a little longer for mine if it is done right an professionally.
I think you will be waiting a very long time.
If you dislike your Entegra so much why do you still have it and why didyou buy it. Get a Tiffin and lets see how you start complaining. There is a you Tube of a family taking an entire tour of the Entegra plant. Watch it and you will see the do what they say.
I agree...he say "Entegra looks like they put their paint on with a brush". I own an Entegra Aspire and have seen many other Entegras....the paint is what always catches my eye. But something tells me this dude is just a constant complainer.
No safety vests and allowing visitors that close. Not professional.
I work at tiffins and I wanna see you build an RV on time without a deadline, while remaining your criticism of cleanliness. it's easy to make a video. you were on the outside stay there.
I think if you watch the video you will see that I am very complimentary about Tiffin, some areas need tiding up for the safety of both visitors and staff alike. Maybe you should visit a few factory tours and see the comparison for your self. Then maybe you're have a different point of view.
@@glenntomkins5237 Before hand most factory settings such as this and others let workers know that a tour group is coming through and try to keep areas clean and tidy but like the comment above deadlines are harsh and companies not workers make it to where its difficult to clean if you havent worked it dont judge it trust me its not fun for workers either.
Time to trade in the Entegra for a Tiffin.
Not sure about that Lucy
The factory was a mess
Yep, total mess
As you are working ,you create waste ,Duh. I'm quite sure they clean their areas from time to time as they produce vehicles . I think that was a bit of too much nit picking.........
that factory no good bad workers never clean up that means there works the same dirty will be in everything you have to have cleaned workplace to make good RV
I think they have now stopped letting the public roam around, so now they probably only show you what they want to show you.
indeed the rubbish is incredible, I would not buy these motor coach because of that
To.much rubbish.
Hey! Not to be rude. But you're in Alabama. Not Amish country. You need to get up to Indiana for the real craftmenship. You should of did your homework before degrading the Amish in your video.
I hav visited many places in Indiana
Tiffin so far looks like it's not very diverse when it comes to workers.
This guy is complaining about how dirty the warehouse is . HELLOOOOOOOOO it’s a warehouse it’s part of production . Every company that produces anything has a warehouse just as messy . Now u see why integra doesn’t want filming because of petty complaints like the one you just made
john marquez go to a Toyota planet and you will not see and rubbish on the floors.
Jerry Stotts u can’t compare a toyota plant where there is an assembly line to a place where motorcoaches are built . These are rolling homes . Go to a site where a house is being built and u will see the same amount of rubish