From Low College GPA to Columbia Law School || How to Transfer After 1L Year

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @priscilla4437
    @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +223

    I should probably add that I am a non-traditional student. That means that did not go immediately from undergrad into law school. I worked for about 3 years before I went to law school. Further, I took the LSAT twice so do not be discouraged if you don't do amazing the first time.
    One thing that stands out is that I did a couple sessions with a tutor who told me that if I did not get into Columbia the first time, I should just hold off on going to law school alltogether and apply the next round because it was nearly impossible to transfer into a school this good. You can imagine how hard that was for me to hear.
    I say all that to say: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER should you let anyone discourage you about your plans. If you say you are going to do it, then, by God, plan, pray, and execute. Do not let ANYONE stand in your way. Not even yourself. You've got this!

    • @JO-sg5kd
      @JO-sg5kd 5 лет назад +8

      You're amazing. May God bless you!

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +1

      @@kerinsajjad8394 Hi Kerin, I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean that you are currently a part-time undergrad student? Or that you are currently a part-time JD student looking to transfer to full-time? If it is the latter, I admit that I do not know enough to answer your question, definitively. What I do know is that every school has requirements of what they are looking for from transfer students. For example, most schools I applied to required something like 30-32 credits completed, core 1L courses completed, etc. I would advise you to reach out to the admission offices of the respective schools you are considering to ask them how they have (if they have ever) dealt with something like that. Best of Luck!

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад

      @@kerinsajjad8394 Ahh okay, I think I understand. No, I don't think that looks bad at all and I actually don't think that it will affect you. At my old school, Con Law is a 2L course (but a 1L course at most other schools). As you can tell, that did not pose any problem for me at Columbia. I just had to take it with the 1Ls when I transferred. So long as you are considered a full time student and you meet the minimum credit requirements, etc., you should be just fine.

    • @yesutoryesutor8434
      @yesutoryesutor8434 5 лет назад +1

      Priscilla Nyankson please what was your lsat score and did you get any scholarships upon transferring??

    • @kosiifediba7242
      @kosiifediba7242 5 лет назад +2

      Congratulations on your success! Its really encouraging to hear your story. I'm currently applying for the fall of 2020 and I'm in a very similar situation. I have two questions if you can find the time to answer.
      1. How much does the ranking of the school that you start at effect your ability to move up in ranking?
      2. What is it like trying to join extracurricular activities at your new school after transferring? I'm interested in joining Law Review wherever I end up, and I would hate to miss the boat.

  • @fcnyc952
    @fcnyc952 5 лет назад +28

    This was a highly-anticipated video! First, for all the viewers, please take note of Priscilla's feedback and insight on the transfer process. Second, from the moment I met Priscilla, I have received nothing but positive feedback, insight, and advice regarding how to transfer law schools successfully. Third, I took Priscilla's advice and feedback and put it to practice. After a long 1L year, to God be the glory, with the wisdom, knowledge, and strength that God gave me, I ended up in the top of my class and am in the process of submitting transfer apps. Priscilla is correct, as a 1L, you will be tested in the following ways: academically, mentally, and emotionally. Lastly, may God continue to bless Angel, Sam, and Priscilla as they have been and are a true blessing in my life!

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +2

      that's really kind of you to say, Franklin.

    • @fcnyc952
      @fcnyc952 5 лет назад

      @@priscilla4437, thank you for your time and continued support. I truly appreciate it! God bless you greatly!

  • @dree324
    @dree324 5 лет назад +33

    I transferred after my first year of law school. I knew I was going to transfer during my first semester. Luckily, I did the early transfer program for the law school I transferred to and I knew in May, but other transfers didn’t find out until July. I would say, being in the top 5% is useful for a top 10-15 law school. But, I was able to transfer to a tier 2 school with a 3.0. But, it’s all relative. Just speaking on my experience 😊

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +2

      Congratulations on your success, Dree! You are right, it depends on where you are trying to transfer. At the end of the day, what matters is that you try your absolute best and that you are happy with the legal education you receive. Best of luck with all future endeavors!

  • @So_Cato
    @So_Cato 5 лет назад +20

    Nice to know. Thanks girls. And congratulations to you both 🎊

  • @elizabethliu8731
    @elizabethliu8731 5 лет назад +12

    This video is soooo helpful Sam & Angel! Literally in this situation right now... a lot of life circumstances happened, so I don't think I'm going to get into a T-14 law school. I made some regrets in my undergrad career that I really want to turn around in my last year of college. I'm currently in the application process for Howard Law and a couple of Law schools in the NYC area.

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +2

      Elizabeth, I completely understand how things come up in life. I wish you the absolute best in your endeavors this last year and in your application! I'm pulling for you.

    • @elizabethliu8731
      @elizabethliu8731 5 лет назад +3

      @@priscilla4437 Thank you so much! This comment really made my day. I wish the same to you in your journey of whatever you choose to do!

  • @jasmineharper2056
    @jasmineharper2056 5 лет назад +10

    Im a fairly new subscriber and I want to say thank you to Angel and Sam. because youve shown the representation that I needed to see when it came to Ivy League, while being a black woman. I truly appreciate it! Thank you so much!! Columbia is on my short list for Law schools.

  • @NB-tf5wj
    @NB-tf5wj 3 года назад +1

    I love you ladies and have been following your videos for some years now...I've been a paralegal for 4 years and applying to law school 8 years after graduating from undergrad. Your videos have really been a blessing to me during this process of applying to law school as a black woman.

  • @t.webber3294
    @t.webber3294 5 лет назад +6

    This is one of my favorite videos you guys have done, it was straight forward, lighthearted, and informative. Priscilla, Sis you did that! The way you explained your grind speaks volumes about the honest work you put in. Again, I am very proud but even more, inspired by all three of y'all (Birdman voice) #CongratsYouGuys!

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад

      Tyeesha, you are far too kind. I appreciate the words nevertheless. :)

  • @1lambo247
    @1lambo247 5 лет назад +4

    I really appreciate this video. I'm going into my 1L year this fall, but am already thinking about transferring so this video was really helpful

  • @losrob27
    @losrob27 5 лет назад +2

    Three beautiful, lovely ladies! Congratulations on your success!!!

  • @junahcho2224
    @junahcho2224 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for sharing your transfer experience! I was hoping you could speak to what extracurriculars stand out on a transfer app, and what their worth is next to a high gpa.

  • @brittanyedwards6530
    @brittanyedwards6530 5 лет назад +6

    Thank you for your advice and transparency!! I really appreciate it.

  • @protectynggirls
    @protectynggirls 5 лет назад +5

    Thank you so much for this video! i had no idea you could transfer in law school

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +1

      TL, most people don't so Kudos to Angel and Sam for getting the message out. I was really privileged in the fact that a friend and mentor did it first so I always knew that it was an option for me.

  • @onaraonari
    @onaraonari 5 лет назад +3

    Wow, this is very comforting and inspirational, thank you girls god bless you 👏🏻

  • @ohitscassandra
    @ohitscassandra 3 года назад

    Honestly I watch this video often because it’s so encouraging! I have hope that even if my top choice bypasses me this time, the very next year I will get another chance! Thank you for being so detailed! I will share my testimony here soon❤️❤️❤️

  • @ellenhenderson6865
    @ellenhenderson6865 5 лет назад +2

    I can’t change my gpa. I’m older and went to college many years ago. And the LSAT is a challenge for me. NGL. So I’m focusing on my softs. Started volunteering at the courts and working with seniors. And getting an entry level job in law to build work experience. And I’m going to try and apply really early. And, focusing on public interest. Because I realized that transferring..I would not have a chance at need based free money.

  • @grayscar05
    @grayscar05 5 лет назад +5

    Angel's face is hilarious!

  • @gstrassel9008
    @gstrassel9008 5 лет назад +3

    This was very helpful. Thank you!

  • @dancingpenguin333
    @dancingpenguin333 5 лет назад +6

    Hello. I am an undergrad at Columbia University. I would love it if we could grab coffee and talk about your experience with CL

  • @bmar1900
    @bmar1900 5 лет назад +6

    Great video! Do you know if you all can do a video about how to get into law school with a low undergraduate GPA? Like of getting a master's will be better, paralegal certificate, gap year working , etc. I would really appreciate the help! thanks 😊 Also congratulations you all !!!

    • @matthewdavis6403
      @matthewdavis6403 5 лет назад +1

      Dont mean to put you on the spot but how low is your GPA? If its below a 3.3 then yes doing great in a masters program would look a lot better....it also depends on your lsat score, lower the GPA, higher your lsat score needs to be....dont forget your personal statement either or great letters of recommendations, those do wonders if they arent generic

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +2

      Mar, it truly depends. I would say go with the masters if that is something you feel you want to pursue. I did not get a masters in the interim and actually, I did not go directly from undergrad to law school. I worked for 3 years until I decided that I could no longer push it back.

    • @bmar1900
      @bmar1900 5 лет назад

      Thanks appreciate the responses

  • @debraleejohnson3631
    @debraleejohnson3631 4 месяца назад

    does the type of the school you are transferring from matter?

  • @grayscar05
    @grayscar05 5 лет назад +13

    What's gonna happen to the channel now? I so enjoyed ya'll journey and advice and I have no interest in law school. I love the energy and I'm inspired by ya'll work ethic

    • @Sistersinlaw
      @Sistersinlaw  5 лет назад +5

      Thank you! We're going to keep the channel alive to the extent that we can. We have a video on what's next a little later this summer!

  • @marshallstrawbridge8
    @marshallstrawbridge8 5 лет назад +34

    Is being in the top 5% of your class necessary or sufficient condition?

    • @dree324
      @dree324 5 лет назад +5

      Marshall Strawbridge I transferred to a tier 2 with a 3.0.

    • @stephanies3484
      @stephanies3484 5 лет назад +15

      I see what you did there

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +2

      Marshall, hahahahahahah this was great. I will say "it depends." 😉

    • @dree324
      @dree324 5 лет назад

      @@stephanies3484 Yeah, the second best law school in my state, #1 in my area.lol Just had to do what I had to do. Also, I have a job at a full-service corporate law firm (we are located in various states). I think you do see what I did. 😁🤑

    • @stephanies3484
      @stephanies3484 5 лет назад +2

      @@dree324 sorry I was actually talking about OP's LSAT joke 😶

  • @leiladiallo8890
    @leiladiallo8890 4 года назад +1

    Do they consider your LSAT after your first year and can you use the same personal statement etc?

  • @chandiniramaiah7900
    @chandiniramaiah7900 2 года назад

    Did you also submit a diversity statement for your transfer application?

  • @WhitneysScript
    @WhitneysScript 3 года назад +1

    I mainly wanna know if she was precluded from any organizations (like law review) or scholarships because she transferred.

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 2 года назад +2

      Hey hey! So I actually don’t get notifications when yall ask questions so I apologize is these answers are late.
      At some schools (Cornell), I would not have been allowed to write on for law review. Columbia didn’t have that rule so I could have written on if I wanted to. You will need to look through the school’s transfer process to determine what, if anything, you’re precluded from doing. I had done write on for my old school already and honestly, I didn’t wanna deal with the headache again so I went for a different journal. I wasn’t precluded from any activity at all at Columbia.
      Transfer students don’t get scholarships normally, no. However I will say that my alma mater offered me one. They said it was based on my undergrad need but low key I think they wanted me bad enough that they were willing to make an offer cuz I’ve never heard of this before anywhere.

  • @IyannaEllis351
    @IyannaEllis351 5 лет назад +2

    I’m self studying for the November LSAT at the moment (PowerScore) and would like to know do you have any friends who self study? And if so is there any advice that can be given? Such as study schedules, other free sources to help with portions of the prep that can’t really grasped.

    • @alexxxanddrraaa
      @alexxxanddrraaa 5 лет назад +11

      I'm studying for the September LSAT on Khan Academy. It's all free, you take a diagnostic practice test, then enter your goal score and they tailor a practice schedule for you to get you to that goal score. They also rank the sections you need to work on based on your diagnostic test from low to high. You also have access to lessons that break down the questions and answers, they have a section for review, etc. Super resource heavy, I love it!

    • @IyannaEllis351
      @IyannaEllis351 5 лет назад +2

      DRACARYS88 yes I was recently using that to see if I could get better on sections that I’m currently struggling with, I will definitely use the khan academy more

    • @amyj8199
      @amyj8199 5 лет назад

      I self studied for 4 mnths. My score only improved 5 points. If you want to go to Columbia, invest your money into hiring a tutor or go to an in person class. Self studying is literally my biggest regret

  • @andremcknee119
    @andremcknee119 4 месяца назад

    What was your lsat score and your gpa upon applying to your first law school

  • @FlorenceElu
    @FlorenceElu Год назад

    Doesn't transferring hurt your ranking?

  • @Legally_Balddd
    @Legally_Balddd 2 года назад

    Did you have to pay another seat deposit to transfer?

  • @GabbyandShikamaru
    @GabbyandShikamaru 5 лет назад +1

    Do you believe your LSAT matters in the transfer process? Or is it solely your law school GPA + letters and other materials

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +2

      I'm sure they take that into account, but do not rest on those laurels alone. While they may consider it, after 1L, your LSAT is not that important (considering it isn't actually and accurate indicator of how well you will do in law school). Focus on grades.

  • @rachelosei_
    @rachelosei_ 5 лет назад +1

    If I have a “W” on my undergrad transcript do you think I can still transfer into Columbia law school
    Or even law school in general?

    • @arlenehaig610
      @arlenehaig610 5 лет назад +7

      yeah, they care 95% about GPA and LSAT

  • @girlwithathought2940
    @girlwithathought2940 9 месяцев назад

    did she ever say what her undergrad GPA was?

  • @melaniebrown1443
    @melaniebrown1443 4 года назад

    I graduated from UNC-Chapel Hill with a 3.1 GPA. I graduated with a degree in computer science, which explains my low GPA. Do you think I have a shot at a T14 law school?

    • @samanthabrown5433
      @samanthabrown5433 4 года назад +1

      Hey girl, I'm in the same boat! I graduated with a very similar GPA from Texas A&M. From what I've come across in my research, ANYTHING is possible! Study for your LSAT and make it a priority for at least 3 months. There are several T14 schools that will overlook a low GPA if you have an impressive LSAT score. I highly recommend using Law School Numbers and looking at your target school's GPA and LSAT. The general rule of thumb is if your GPA is below the school's median, your LSAT should be above their 75th percentile. Best wishes, you've got this(:

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 2 года назад

      Yes, I absolutely do.

  • @CanadianNaturalle
    @CanadianNaturalle 5 лет назад

    Wow! Great video. What type of extra-curricular activities would ya'll suggest taking part in to stand out? Leadership positions etc? Thank you so much.

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +4

      KiKi, That really depends on your school and what you are trying to do. Most schools do not allow 1Ls to participate on trial teams but I was lucky enough that my school did (and it aligned with my litigation interests) so I was on the arbitration trial team; I was a student ambassador; and I was in BLSA. There really isn't a lot of room to do TOO much given how hectic and difficult 1L is so I would say: Under no circumstances should you bite off more than you can chew. At the end of the day, the grades matter the most.

    • @ellenhenderson6865
      @ellenhenderson6865 5 лет назад

      The courts here in Los Angeles use college students (and high school) as volunteers in the Self Help center helping underserved litigants with family law. That’s what I’m doing right now. Maybe your states court does the same?

  • @slv8581
    @slv8581 3 года назад

    Did she have to take the LSAT again to transfer?

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 2 года назад

      No I did not. You use the same scores

  • @ellenhenderson6865
    @ellenhenderson6865 5 лет назад

    You don’t get the same scholarships offered in 1L transferring in 2L. Right?

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +2

      That's correct. Most, if not all law schools will NOT offer you any scholarships as a transferring 2L (caveat: I can only speak to the T14 Schools on that subject). I did get a rather generous scholarship offer from my alma mater, however, which is a T20 school but I think it was for a combination of reasons (including the grades).

    • @ellenhenderson6865
      @ellenhenderson6865 5 лет назад

      Priscilla Nyankson Thanks Priscilla!

  • @lacroix9697
    @lacroix9697 5 лет назад +2

    What school did you transfer from? (If you feel comfortable sharing?) And also any study tips for an entering 1L who wants to transfer? Thanks!

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +5

      Hi La Croix, I transferred from the University of Missouri

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 5 лет назад +6

      Sorry, I didn't read carefully enough. I would say: 1. get in a study group for ; finals but make your own outline; 2. use an outline from the year before as a resource when making your outlines to make sure that you are not missing anything; and 3. take practice exams, and if your professors have the time, ask them about any confusing parts of the exam you took. Further, you want to ask them exaclty what they are looking for in an answer (some profs want a "kitchen sink" approach and others prefer that you answer only the question asked of you).

    • @Bl3ssingK
      @Bl3ssingK 5 лет назад

      Priscilla Nyankson Hello Priscilla,
      Would I be able you some questions related to this video? Thank you in advance.
      Blessing

  • @healthykrissy212
    @healthykrissy212 3 года назад

    This was soooo helpful! Does Priscilla have an IG or other socials? I’d love to get in touch with her!

    • @Sistersinlaw
      @Sistersinlaw  3 года назад

      Yes, @nanadagreat on Instagram.

    • @healthykrissy212
      @healthykrissy212 3 года назад

      @@Sistersinlaw thank you!

    • @Viva__XO
      @Viva__XO 3 года назад

      @@Sistersinlaw has her ig name changed?

  • @thiaguinhogameplays
    @thiaguinhogameplays 4 года назад

    What's your intro song?

  • @yesutoryesutor8434
    @yesutoryesutor8434 5 лет назад

    Please does transfer come with scholarships??

    • @Jessica-yd3ld
      @Jessica-yd3ld 4 года назад

      It really depends on schools. Some schools do not offer scholarships to transfer students, unfortunately:(

  • @NB-tf5wj
    @NB-tf5wj 5 лет назад +2

    I'm late to you ladies but question...how low is too low regarding undergrad gpa? I'm almost 7 years removed from undergrad , does gpa outweigh professional experience?

    • @mdgamble
      @mdgamble 5 лет назад +1

      N B yes, would love feedback on this. I am in the same situation and considering going to Law school.

    • @priscilla4437
      @priscilla4437 4 года назад

      Sorry, I haven’t checked this thread in a while. No, given how long you have been out of school, I can or say that it matters as much as someone without professional experience

  • @SirShoddrick
    @SirShoddrick 4 года назад

    L School is so subjective according to each professor, you may study eight hours a day, and not wright an exam the way a professor wants it, and barely pass that class.

  • @PKMNFan4664
    @PKMNFan4664 2 года назад

    May I ask where you transferred to Columbia from?

  • @Marah914
    @Marah914 5 лет назад +4

    Can you stop eating rightnow?... is embarrassing!...Anyways thanks for the info. I needed this.

    • @Sistersinlaw
      @Sistersinlaw  5 лет назад +12

      I'm not embarrassed one bit lol. Happy you found the information helpful!

    • @nanostar7660
      @nanostar7660 4 года назад +2

      I totally agree! That was soo unprofessional and distracting

  • @nanostar7660
    @nanostar7660 4 года назад +4

    Eating doritos while doing a video is so trashy and unprofessional. Please don’t do that again. You are young professionals representing black women and we live and die by how we are represented.

    • @Sistersinlaw
      @Sistersinlaw  4 года назад +1

      Have you heard of a mukbang or asmr? Similar effect.

    • @nanostar7660
      @nanostar7660 4 года назад +2

      Angel & Sam LLP , I have heard of them. However, those are for people seeking those things out specifically. They aren’t for educational purposes and don’t have to same trope attached to them as what is so easily attached to black women as “unprofessional” or “undignified” or “classless”. I am not trying to hate just trying to point out that it is important to be mindful of what you represent- young, beautiful, and well-educated black women. They call us “ghetto” too easily and you can be the perfect example of that not being the case-if you are mindful of how you present yourself.

    • @Sistersinlaw
      @Sistersinlaw  4 года назад +28

      @@nanostar7660 The entire purpose of our channel is to push back against the narrative that to be successful you have to conform to this quintessential image of what a professional Black woman is. We neither want nor aspire to be that. We can be professional while being ourselves and eating Doritos, and if that means our channel is not for everyone, so be it. Happy MLK weekend!

    • @contrarianthinker
      @contrarianthinker 4 года назад

      Nano Star stop worrying how others view you that’s a serious problem with black people

    • @harutan64
      @harutan64 3 года назад

      @@Sistersinlaw I'm so happy to see y'all being yourselves! I'm not the most mature or anything super great, so it's great to see that I don't have to impress people. I'm still intimidated because y'all are ridiculously smart though lol