One note on Foil: it's downshift from uncommon to common in Ultimate Masters lead to UB Delver decks in Pauper to be absolutely insanely dominant, directly leading to the banning of Gush, Daze and Gitaxian Probe in the so called Blue Monday. You could make up the card disadvantage of Foil's free mode and also have the required Islands to discard by using Gush's free mode. Foil did a pretty good impression of Force of Will in that format.
8:40 Here's a fun fact for all your hearthstone players out there: The super grow deck was also called "miracle gro", because it could grow a quirion dryad to massive size, and that is why the Rogue combo decks in that game that aim to win by casting a ton of spells are called "miracle rogue"
I started getting into MTG much more seriously around 1998. Prophecy brings back so many memories for me... something about those days that I sort of miss is that the games I played with my circle were much slower and felt more like an epic battle. There were still insanely fast decks back then, of course, but overall the game was slower for the more casual player. As I have gotten older, however, my wife and I have shifted from competitive play to just having fun with theme decks, tribal decks, and downright goofy decks. We mostly just enjoy and comment on the art of MTG when we play anyway, since we are both artists and MTG has an incredible pool of artists creating works for the cards. Great video, I never would miss one of your uploads.
My first deck was a MM / Prophecy / Nemesis block W Rebels deck. I though I was so clever, combining certain cards from the other sets with the main body of the MM Rebels. Then I found out everybody was playing the same deck.
Wasn't Rebel Informer also used to protect Lin Sivvi? Suppose OP tries to snuff out Lin Sivvi, you could activate Lin Sivvi, hold priority, activate Informer and ta-dah, Lin Sivvi fetches herself. (I believe the Legends rule back then did not allow Lin Sivvi to simply fetch another copy of herself as that would mean two of them would simultaneously be on the battlefield.)
@@golgariguy I remember a very nasty Buried Alive / Balthor the Defiled deck that focused on Faceless Butchers, Laquatus Champion, Nantuko Shade and zombify. With Avatar of Woe as like a Main win con. Those games were always horrible to deal with just the amount of power they had versus other colors at the time.
Yep, Godamn power creep meant to force us oldies into buying new cards just to sit at the table again. Prison decks/control are some of the least evolved deck types where you can still remain relevant with older cards from what I've gathered. Yeah, i'm definitely salty over commander leading the charge on endlessly overpowered legendary creatures/Planeswalkers that skew the eternal formats. 😅
@@shibbidydoowop I can not even play casual... my deck building is too strong for casual.. and not expensive enough to be competitive in Modern/Legacy and with Commander.. I have been trying to build, but its running into the same issue because so many "INVESTORS" are dropping massive amounts of money, buying up older sets creating scaricty to push must have commander cards into the the same realm of Modern and Legacy. If you can not drop $5k on decks, you will never compete, but if you just want to be casual... you better bring at least $500 if you want to be relevant. The power creep would not be so bad.. if the costs for cards were not skyrocketing.
You know, I can't say I'm surprised that a Masques block set was atrociously awful. But not a *single* card has any Vintage points? I knew the set was bad, but Christ when even the #1 card has only 17 points, I think it is safe to say that this set actually *is* worse than Homelands, which at least had Magicians Scroll for Vintage points. Speaking of Vintage, if you don't want the next set released to be as bad as Prophecy, I would highly advise you to do "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)", my contacts at Wizards of the Coast are vast.
I know commander staples aren't always as good in 60 card formats, but it surprised me that rhystic study didn't make the list. I guess it's not as good when you only have one opponent.
It seems like Prophecy might have been an interesting draft format, with so many cards that encourage you to tap out while other cards (like the Rhystics) that let you defend yourself by having mana left over. It could create an interesting dynamic in a self-contained environment. But I don't even know if that kind of drafting existed back then!
I had such a grin when I saw Chimeric Idol show up on the list! I wasn’t playing when it was in standard but I somehow ended up with a copy and put it in my cube as a joke card but now I’ve just grown too attached to it and can never get rid of it
I really like that you look at how cards would have affected the meta at the time of release. If you building decks using older cards or something like that then its really helpful to think of older mechanics. Love these!
Something about Chimeric Idol you forgot to mention - back then there was mana burn, or where you take 1 damage for each unspent mana. Cards that could tap your lands without extra damage were huge
I love Mageta in the novels. He's such a great general. He leads his men against the Keldons and has to be dragged away from the fighting. He's such a bad ass.
@@lamronjr8785 Except for Rhystic Study, the mack daddy of all common cards in EDH. Also, Avatar of Woe is pretty good in EDH reanimator decks. Mageta the Lion has some practical application in EDH if you pair it with card draw colors like blue, black, and/or green. It's especially good with black in the aforementioned reanimator decks. I can see him being good in something like Karador. Latulla and Greel could be good in a B/R madness/hellbent deck, like maybe Chainer, Asmora, or Anje Falkenrath.
Thank you! I LOVE Prophecy and i remember at the time, at my casual level, after the horrible year of Mercadia Masque into Nemesis, this was a breath of fresh air. And you know what, i'm sure that if at the time Commander had been as big as it is today, the reputation of this set would be way different, because between the avatar cycle, the wind cycle and the Spellshaper cycle (and Rhystic Study), this set is awesome for commander, especially for its time. Also: Spore. Frog. :)
I remember pulling an avatar of woe and the store owner offered to buy it from me. I was so stoked back then and ended up keeping it and trading it later for a wrath of god lol
Excellent video as always. There aren’t many channels that I instantly watch a video from when I see the notification pop up but this one most def is:) keep up the great channel and the new history of decks themed videos as well. They rock!!!👍👌
I thought about running Chimeric Idol, but I preferred the harder hitting Phyrexian Totem. 5/5 Trample is hard to ignore for long. The free cost is nice, especially in a deck that acts mostly at sorcery speed like Pox.
Prophecy came out right as I started seriously learning Magic (I'd first played in Ice Age but only bought one booster and didn't really get into it). Chimeric Idol was one of my favorite cards for a long time.
I believe almost everything from Masques block had to be watered down and nerfed because the Urza's block was too OP. I started playing around the Masques block too. :-(
@@HellScream107 Yeah, that was very much the case. I don't remember hearing or reading or guessing that at the time, but have heard this in the years since. Urza Block was *awesome*
Ah yes, prophecy, this was the set where I was balls deep in the game, joining limited tournaments left and right... matches were lost, lessons were learned... but that was the most fun i had during my run of Magic While the set was relatively weak, it had its fair share of good or interesting cards: and some of them are: 1) Rhystic Study: either slows down your opponent since they have to pay 1 extra mana for all their spells or you draw a card. This becomes stupid if you have 2 or more in play XD 2) Rhystic Scrying: if timed correctly, its 3 cards for 4 mana and no drawbacks. In some decks, even the "discard 3" drawback can be taken advantage of 3) Outbreak: from the same cycle as Foil, B3 that gives all creature of a chosen type -1/-1 until end of turn. It became more relevant when Tribal became a huge thing in the game! 4) Noxious Field: slow, yes, but an infinite source of 1 damage across the field means x/1s are not going to pull their weight 5) Hollow Warrior / Keldon Battlewagon: Crude ancestors of the vehicle mechanic... Warrior is kinda ok for its time as a 4/4 for 4 with crew 1. Keldon Battlewagon isnt worth talking about 6) Jolrael, Empress of Beasts: turn your lands in to 3/3 creatures... has the potential to win the match for you 7) Avatar of Will, Fury and Might: Their conditions for the -6 cost wasnt too hard back then. Fury and Might can be sided to help deal with rebels, and Will can be used in a black blue hand destruction control. Hope is the only one not worth it bec once you meet the condition, you're one burn spell away from dying
I seem to recall some old legacy decks that tutored up a bunch of Searing Winds by using Dream Halls and Grozoth. No idea if it was ever that competitive, but it sure was funny
Chimeric Idol's context as a top 10 card was that there was the risk of mana burn back in the day, but surprisingly wasn't mentioned anywhere in the vid. Nowadays you can tap your lands for mana at will.
Nothing gives me the same feeling of power that I get when countering one of my friends' Force of Will with Foil in EDH. Fear the power of the sub-1$ budget option!
I posted a short the other day that allows additional use and abuse of Avatar of Woe’s terror ability, all you need is to equip it with Thornbite staff. A creature dies, you can untap Woe…WHOAH!
I too joined around this time and have a soft spot for the set as a whole. Prophecy is actually my favorite of the masque block because I thought the the whole idea of resource denial as a set mechanic was really interesting. It's too bad they couldn't have made it stronger.
I'm very surprised to see rhystic study not to out. It may be due to a ban in several formats, but that card has no business being a common whatsoever. Still, as someone who started a tad earlier (Urza block, but could still buy mirage and even some ice age boosters) I would say fair enough. Avatar of fury is still very dear to me, especially since back then 7 lands were not that much game ending as modern magic might lead players to believe.
I'm genuinely amazed that rhystic study apparently only has had success in commander. When you brought up rhystic lightning, I was absolutely certain that study was going to be #1. Instead, it's not even on the list.
I had been playing Magic since Revised/Legends/Dark. I bought a lot of cards all through Urza's Saga so, of course, I went all in on Mercadian Masques. And, as we all know, MM was extremely underwhelming compared to Urza's Saga. So I bought very little from Nemesis through Invasion block. I didn't really pick up Magic again until Onslaught.
Haven't watched it yet but I'm gonna predict rhystic study, mageta the lion, foil, rhystic tutor.. I was in my MTG heyday when this set came out so I've got a soft spot for it.. You thought avatar of woe was the shit because let's face it, it was lol. That art is so awesome too
I've started during ice age and Chronicles released.. And through stronghold I think that's the last set I've physically played.. URZA block is still the best and personal favorite of mine.. I've been wanting to get back into magic the gathering playing.. Still haven't figured out how because old the times changed.. And magic the gathering isn't what I remember.. I have been playing around with MAGIC 2015. And that game isn't that bad for brushing me up for recent rules.. And when I decide to get a new phone I'm going to do magic the gathering arena.. And my phone now just missed the my phone is compatible part by a year maybe.. Damn it so close.. But one day I'll be back playing magic the gathering..
Nemesis had more impactful cards, even at the time. Lin-Sivvi dominated block & standard (after Urza's rotated); Blastoderm and Saproling Burst were huge in the popular Fires of Yavimaya deck; Seal of Fire and Seal of Cleansing still see some niche play in eternal formats; and of course, Daze is a multi-format all-star.
I'm curious to know if the mtg content creator I follow on RUclips and Twitch knows each other: do you per change l chance happen to know Covert go blue or crokeyz?
I don''t think it's that bad 1v1. I think it's bad as a product of the meta back then. If the meta is all rebels that rely on activated abilities then yeah, Rystic Study does almost nothing. Suppression Field on the other hand would be an absolute house.
Masque block is really bizarre for a “powered down” block. Like Mercadian Masque has some of the dumbest designed cards ever made like the Rebels and parallax cards (really just the 2/4 or 5?but still). Nemesis just exists and prophecy is just..... just wow the trash in there. Idk who was able to get enjoyment when stuff like the Rhystic spells existed. Yes folks, there was actually multiple cards like rhystic study except they’re all terrible and that one got away with being good just because and even then, it’s not exactly a fun card for anyone else to go against. Prophecy reminds me of a Yugioh set, the infamous Cyberdark impact where the majority of the cards were either unplayable even for their early time or the cards that were competitive were cancerous to play against. Basically stun and burn cards. Prophecy is exactly like that, none of the “good cards” are fun cards to play against or with, its just pain
cyberdark impact _did_ have snipe hunter, black horn of heaven, and instant fusion tho, plus while vanity's fiend is one of those stun cards, it is _significantly_ less obnoxious to play against compared to barrier statues. for as much as cards like **A B A K I** and the eponymous cyberdarks make for completely underwhelming pulls, i think the set's reputation is less about its actual quality ( because let's be real, there are definitely later sets that were even bigger duds ) and moreso just because it's filled with a bunch of gimmicks, yet the only good card that's part of one of those gimmicks is the one that ... unleashed chain burn on the world but it did also result in that time when people were paying top dollar for _senet fuckin' switch_ because of links, so i can't hold it against it
I read somewhere.... can’t remember where..... that because the creators made urzas block insanely powerful their jobs were basically threatened if they didn’t stop going overboard..... which is why masques block is weak af. They were scared to make anything powerful
@@NizzahonMagic Guess you didn't haven't seen all the promotional and fan made material featuring the Avatars and other Prophecy art then. *shrug* Might not be a limited player's thing.
@@mdover2948 Well, if you mean the art is iconic, I can agree to some extent. But the set is pretty devoid of iconic cards, with Rhystic Study probably the only exception
Guys, I see a lot of channels advertising for Card Kingdom. I live in Germany and use Carkmarket. Comparing those two the prices of Card Kingdom are much higher. I am not sure if both are available in every country but if so wouldn't it be like selling your soul promoting the extremely expensive Card Kingdom? Or is it just that prices in US are generally higher?
The prices in US are generally higher, this much is true, but it's not just that. They are also much more volatile. Basically, there is a lot of market manipulation going on in the USA: resellers, scalpers, "investors", and other people like that have a huge sway there. Then, there is insider trading too: people with connections to Wizards know about future releases and bans, and use it to buy out cards that are likely to jump up in price. You are lucky that Cardmarket doesn't ship cards outside of Europe, this protects local prices to at least some degree. On another note, Card Kingdom is on the expensive side even in the US. You can get stuff at TCGplayer for a lower price, usually.
Prophecy for me holds a special place since it was the set i came back to the game. After all these years though. Its def a shit set compared to a lot of other ones.
I'm going out on a limb here and say something mildly controversial. I don't particularly care for the human intro. I liked the cards/voice only format.
oh my god - I was playing since revised and took a break after the urza's set - I drafted and got to keep these cards from this set way later. None of them match up to set earlier nor later, and the mechanics were terrible. Keep up mana or discount at rare cases - none of these cards even made my kitchen-table-decks. And then commander came along and made a common the most valuable card. This set has to be worse than anything I have seen so far - and I was cracking Homelands and Fallen Empires
I really liked this set but Foil fuking ruined it. Seriously...why did Maro think free counterspells were ever a good idea? I know he wasn't the lead but you know he designed this card.
One note on Foil: it's downshift from uncommon to common in Ultimate Masters lead to UB Delver decks in Pauper to be absolutely insanely dominant, directly leading to the banning of Gush, Daze and Gitaxian Probe in the so called Blue Monday. You could make up the card disadvantage of Foil's free mode and also have the required Islands to discard by using Gush's free mode. Foil did a pretty good impression of Force of Will in that format.
Now we got the tron dynasty.
Foil and gush is my favorite little combo in my tatyova edh deck
Enjoyed this one 😊
Man your top 10s and the new deck history are just awesome. I love the pure analytics of your scoring system!
8:40
Here's a fun fact for all your hearthstone players out there: The super grow deck was also called "miracle gro", because it could grow a quirion dryad to massive size, and that is why the Rogue combo decks in that game that aim to win by casting a ton of spells are called "miracle rogue"
Avatar of Woe is an A+ in the art department
rk post is such a great artist.
I started getting into MTG much more seriously around 1998. Prophecy brings back so many memories for me... something about those days that I sort of miss is that the games I played with my circle were much slower and felt more like an epic battle. There were still insanely fast decks back then, of course, but overall the game was slower for the more casual player. As I have gotten older, however, my wife and I have shifted from competitive play to just having fun with theme decks, tribal decks, and downright goofy decks. We mostly just enjoy and comment on the art of MTG when we play anyway, since we are both artists and MTG has an incredible pool of artists creating works for the cards. Great video, I never would miss one of your uploads.
You left me on a cliffhanger by not letting me see the rest of the t shirt.
It just says "& Black". He's an Esper player.
My first deck was a MM / Prophecy / Nemesis block W Rebels deck.
I though I was so clever, combining certain cards from the other sets with the main body of the MM Rebels.
Then I found out everybody was playing the same deck.
7:51 one of my favorite cards ever, love its art.
So much content from your channel(s) these days! We’re living in the golden age of Nizzahon you guys.
Wasn't Rebel Informer also used to protect Lin Sivvi? Suppose OP tries to snuff out Lin Sivvi, you could activate Lin Sivvi, hold priority, activate Informer and ta-dah, Lin Sivvi fetches herself. (I believe the Legends rule back then did not allow Lin Sivvi to simply fetch another copy of herself as that would mean two of them would simultaneously be on the battlefield.)
You'd think Avatar of Woe would be great in reanimator decks but power creep is a thing. XD
Once upon a time it was a premier reanimation target!
@@golgariguy I remember a very nasty Buried Alive / Balthor the Defiled deck that focused on Faceless Butchers, Laquatus Champion, Nantuko Shade and zombify. With Avatar of Woe as like a Main win con. Those games were always horrible to deal with just the amount of power they had versus other colors at the time.
@@Duskrequim good times!
Yep, Godamn power creep meant to force us oldies into buying new cards just to sit at the table again. Prison decks/control are some of the least evolved deck types where you can still remain relevant with older cards from what I've gathered.
Yeah, i'm definitely salty over commander leading the charge on endlessly overpowered legendary creatures/Planeswalkers that skew the eternal formats. 😅
@@shibbidydoowop I can not even play casual... my deck building is too strong for casual.. and not expensive enough to be competitive in Modern/Legacy and with Commander.. I have been trying to build, but its running into the same issue because so many "INVESTORS" are dropping massive amounts of money, buying up older sets creating scaricty to push must have commander cards into the the same realm of Modern and Legacy. If you can not drop $5k on decks, you will never compete, but if you just want to be casual... you better bring at least $500 if you want to be relevant. The power creep would not be so bad.. if the costs for cards were not skyrocketing.
You know, I can't say I'm surprised that a Masques block set was atrociously awful. But not a *single* card has any Vintage points? I knew the set was bad, but Christ when even the #1 card has only 17 points, I think it is safe to say that this set actually *is* worse than Homelands, which at least had Magicians Scroll for Vintage points.
Speaking of Vintage, if you don't want the next set released to be as bad as Prophecy, I would highly advise you to do "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)", my contacts at Wizards of the Coast are vast.
I think you got auto-corrected. "Merchant Scroll" is restricted in Vintage.
I know commander staples aren't always as good in 60 card formats, but it surprised me that rhystic study didn't make the list. I guess it's not as good when you only have one opponent.
It seems like Prophecy might have been an interesting draft format, with so many cards that encourage you to tap out while other cards (like the Rhystics) that let you defend yourself by having mana left over. It could create an interesting dynamic in a self-contained environment. But I don't even know if that kind of drafting existed back then!
I had such a grin when I saw Chimeric Idol show up on the list! I wasn’t playing when it was in standard but I somehow ended up with a copy and put it in my cube as a joke card but now I’ve just grown too attached to it and can never get rid of it
I really like that you look at how cards would have affected the meta at the time of release. If you building decks using older cards or something like that then its really helpful to think of older mechanics. Love these!
Something about Chimeric Idol you forgot to mention - back then there was mana burn, or where you take 1 damage for each unspent mana. Cards that could tap your lands without extra damage were huge
You didn't get mana burn from leaving untapped lands up.
I do love having Avatar of Woe in my Golgari EDH deck. Gotta love repeatable removal
I love Mageta in the novels. He's such a great general. He leads his men against the Keldons and has to be dragged away from the fighting. He's such a bad ass.
After all these years when I can find these stories?
@@stefanoriva9767 Most used bookstores I've been to have an assortment of older MtG novels.
With one of the coolest cycles of legends in the history of magic, prophecy has etched its place in magic history
cooler than masquerade?
@@shikabaneconga personally I think so
I really miss old Magic.
Me seeing the title: "Hm don't remember this mechanic, what set is it from"
Nizzahon: "Prophecy is a set"
Me: How have I never heard of this set?!
Literally none of these cards see play any more, and the block is entirely forgettable
The best card in the set has 17 points and hasn't seen play since 2002.
I think that answers your question.
@@lamronjr8785 Except for Rhystic Study, the mack daddy of all common cards in EDH. Also, Avatar of Woe is pretty good in EDH reanimator decks. Mageta the Lion has some practical application in EDH if you pair it with card draw colors like blue, black, and/or green. It's especially good with black in the aforementioned reanimator decks. I can see him being good in something like Karador. Latulla and Greel could be good in a B/R madness/hellbent deck, like maybe Chainer, Asmora, or Anje Falkenrath.
Believe it or not, I knew Chimeric Idol had a shot at number one from the fantastic Ranking of Magic series' episode on turtles.
Spiketail Hatchling was one of my first ever Magic cards. I got it years before I seriously started playing the game :)
Thank you! I LOVE Prophecy and i remember at the time, at my casual level, after the horrible year of Mercadia Masque into Nemesis, this was a breath of fresh air. And you know what, i'm sure that if at the time Commander had been as big as it is today, the reputation of this set would be way different, because between the avatar cycle, the wind cycle and the Spellshaper cycle (and Rhystic Study), this set is awesome for commander, especially for its time. Also: Spore. Frog. :)
Chimeric Idol is good for basically the same reason that vehicles are good, isn't it?
Vehicles are significantly more efficient, but yeah, it does have similar upside.
I used to play an Armageddon + Armageddon/Wrath deck. Loved that one.
Man I love the design space exploded in this set, but good grief are the effects offen underwhelming. That said for EDH it does have some real gems
I remember pulling an avatar of woe and the store owner offered to buy it from me. I was so stoked back then and ended up keeping it and trading it later for a wrath of god lol
Excellent video as always. There aren’t many channels that I instantly watch a video from when I see the notification pop up but this one most def is:) keep up the great channel and the new history of decks themed videos as well. They rock!!!👍👌
Wow, thanks!
this is right in my wheelhouse. started playing magic in Urza's block.
I thought about running Chimeric Idol, but I preferred the harder hitting Phyrexian Totem. 5/5 Trample is hard to ignore for long. The free cost is nice, especially in a deck that acts mostly at sorcery speed like Pox.
Prophecy came out right as I started seriously learning Magic (I'd first played in Ice Age but only bought one booster and didn't really get into it). Chimeric Idol was one of my favorite cards for a long time.
I remember when Prophecy came out and thinking, "holy cow this is underwhelming"
I believe almost everything from Masques block had to be watered down and nerfed because the Urza's block was too OP. I started playing around the Masques block too. :-(
@@HellScream107 Yeah, that was very much the case. I don't remember hearing or reading or guessing that at the time, but have heard this in the years since. Urza Block was *awesome*
Ah yes, prophecy, this was the set where I was balls deep in the game, joining limited tournaments left and right... matches were lost, lessons were learned... but that was the most fun i had during my run of Magic
While the set was relatively weak, it had its fair share of good or interesting cards: and some of them are:
1) Rhystic Study: either slows down your opponent since they have to pay 1 extra mana for all their spells or you draw a card. This becomes stupid if you have 2 or more in play XD
2) Rhystic Scrying: if timed correctly, its 3 cards for 4 mana and no drawbacks. In some decks, even the "discard 3" drawback can be taken advantage of
3) Outbreak: from the same cycle as Foil, B3 that gives all creature of a chosen type -1/-1 until end of turn. It became more relevant when Tribal became a huge thing in the game!
4) Noxious Field: slow, yes, but an infinite source of 1 damage across the field means x/1s are not going to pull their weight
5) Hollow Warrior / Keldon Battlewagon: Crude ancestors of the vehicle mechanic... Warrior is kinda ok for its time as a 4/4 for 4 with crew 1. Keldon Battlewagon isnt worth talking about
6) Jolrael, Empress of Beasts: turn your lands in to 3/3 creatures... has the potential to win the match for you
7) Avatar of Will, Fury and Might: Their conditions for the -6 cost wasnt too hard back then. Fury and Might can be sided to help deal with rebels, and Will can be used in a black blue hand destruction control. Hope is the only one not worth it bec once you meet the condition, you're one burn spell away from dying
The new format is awesome. Keep making your content!
P. S. The Goose
I seem to recall some old legacy decks that tutored up a bunch of Searing Winds by using Dream Halls and Grozoth. No idea if it was ever that competitive, but it sure was funny
I remember when I unpacked woe and immediately fell for the 2 mana terror tap. I still use this card.
Lol I saw Chimeric Idol coming because I played a lot back then and it was the only card from that set I played :P
Avatar of Woe!!! One of the first things that got me into MTG was the 2013 Planeschase game and that was one of my favorite cards
Chimeric Idol's context as a top 10 card was that there was the risk of mana burn back in the day, but surprisingly wasn't mentioned anywhere in the vid.
Nowadays you can tap your lands for mana at will.
Nothing gives me the same feeling of power that I get when countering one of my friends' Force of Will with Foil in EDH. Fear the power of the sub-1$ budget option!
Maybe weak cards but strong artwork
Love Prophecy. Not being a broken set elevates all the cards in a way.
Chimeric idol is by far the best card in the set. Most people don't see that. Touché sir. Touché
I posted a short the other day that allows additional use and abuse of Avatar of Woe’s terror ability, all you need is to equip it with Thornbite staff. A creature dies, you can untap Woe…WHOAH!
I too joined around this time and have a soft spot for the set as a whole.
Prophecy is actually my favorite of the masque block because I thought the the whole idea of resource denial as a set mechanic was really interesting. It's too bad they couldn't have made it stronger.
this list was prophesized to happen
Ding ding ding we have the winner
But we all knew that on the first day of class
I loved Chimeric Idol. Go Turtle!
I'm very surprised to see rhystic study not to out. It may be due to a ban in several formats, but that card has no business being a common whatsoever. Still, as someone who started a tad earlier (Urza block, but could still buy mirage and even some ice age boosters) I would say fair enough.
Avatar of fury is still very dear to me, especially since back then 7 lands were not that much game ending as modern magic might lead players to believe.
Wait, no SPORE FROG?
Prophecy was my first, and only, set. Never could win a game so I quit playing. Now I know why. Thanks!
You can also use Withdraw as a Peel from Reality if you want to rebuy an ETB or something.
2:01 Skipperino Introerino
Late night new videos are fun
they are convenient because for me in Europe, they appear in my feed right when I'm having breakfast in the morning! XD
Also I used Chimeric idol with sands of time, and Teferis realm, with targeted phasing... 😈
I'm genuinely amazed that rhystic study apparently only has had success in commander. When you brought up rhystic lightning, I was absolutely certain that study was going to be #1. Instead, it's not even on the list.
It isn't that good in 1 v 1 normal Magic.
Do you have a foil card?
nice to see a fellow wingspan fan :)
I've always wanted an Avatar of Woe, and Foil is a poor man's force of will.
I have the same nostalgia about Prophecy!
If you top-deck one of these cards, you’re sure to turn a prophet.
Boooooo!
I had been playing Magic since Revised/Legends/Dark. I bought a lot of cards all through Urza's Saga so, of course, I went all in on Mercadian Masques. And, as we all know, MM was extremely underwhelming compared to Urza's Saga. So I bought very little from Nemesis through Invasion block. I didn't really pick up Magic again until Onslaught.
Haven't watched it yet but I'm gonna predict rhystic study, mageta the lion, foil, rhystic tutor.. I was in my MTG heyday when this set came out so I've got a soft spot for it..
You thought avatar of woe was the shit because let's face it, it was lol. That art is so awesome too
I've started during ice age and Chronicles released..
And through stronghold I think that's the last set I've physically played..
URZA block is still the best and personal favorite of mine..
I've been wanting to get back into magic the gathering playing..
Still haven't figured out how because old the times changed..
And magic the gathering isn't what I remember..
I have been playing around with MAGIC 2015.
And that game isn't that bad for brushing me up for recent rules..
And when I decide to get a new phone I'm going to do magic the gathering arena..
And my phone now just missed the my phone is compatible part by a year maybe..
Damn it so close..
But one day I'll be back playing magic the gathering..
Now seing all these Spellshapers, what about a Top 10 with them?
I still don't understand (after 20 years) how come nemesis is regarded as a better set than prophecy.
Nemesis had more impactful cards, even at the time. Lin-Sivvi dominated block & standard (after Urza's rotated); Blastoderm and Saproling Burst were huge in the popular Fires of Yavimaya deck; Seal of Fire and Seal of Cleansing still see some niche play in eternal formats; and of course, Daze is a multi-format all-star.
Underpowered isnt a bad thing necessarily. Makes the boosters cheaper to draft and in my opinion its not bad to slow down power creep a bit haha
Upon seeing the image: I recognize that Avatar.
Summer of 2000, magic times!
I'm curious to know if the mtg content creator I follow on RUclips and Twitch knows each other: do you per change l chance happen to know Covert go blue or crokeyz?
maybe it's the worst set, but... I love the carts art it contains ;D
I think Rhystic study is the best prophecy card even tho it’s not on the list
Wow, that's an interesting list
Just wild thar Rhystic Study, a 20$ commander card, doesn't even appear on the list! Although it makes perfect sense, since it's terrible in 1v1.
I don''t think it's that bad 1v1. I think it's bad as a product of the meta back then. If the meta is all rebels that rely on activated abilities then yeah, Rystic Study does almost nothing. Suppression Field on the other hand would be an absolute house.
Prophecy is the best set now because the best card from it was a turtle.
Masque block is really bizarre for a “powered down” block. Like Mercadian Masque has some of the dumbest designed cards ever made like the Rebels and parallax cards (really just the 2/4 or 5?but still). Nemesis just exists and prophecy is just..... just wow the trash in there. Idk who was able to get enjoyment when stuff like the Rhystic spells existed. Yes folks, there was actually multiple cards like rhystic study except they’re all terrible and that one got away with being good just because and even then, it’s not exactly a fun card for anyone else to go against.
Prophecy reminds me of a Yugioh set, the infamous Cyberdark impact where the majority of the cards were either unplayable even for their early time or the cards that were competitive were cancerous to play against. Basically stun and burn cards. Prophecy is exactly like that, none of the “good cards” are fun cards to play against or with, its just pain
Didn't Mercadian Masques also have Rishadan Port? Now that's another card that's a pain to play against.
cyberdark impact _did_ have snipe hunter, black horn of heaven, and instant fusion tho, plus while vanity's fiend is one of those stun cards, it is _significantly_ less obnoxious to play against compared to barrier statues. for as much as cards like **A B A K I** and the eponymous cyberdarks make for completely underwhelming pulls, i think the set's reputation is less about its actual quality ( because let's be real, there are definitely later sets that were even bigger duds ) and moreso just because it's filled with a bunch of gimmicks, yet the only good card that's part of one of those gimmicks is the one that ... unleashed chain burn on the world
but it did also result in that time when people were paying top dollar for _senet fuckin' switch_ because of links, so i can't hold it against it
I read somewhere.... can’t remember where..... that because the creators made urzas block insanely powerful their jobs were basically threatened if they didn’t stop going overboard..... which is why masques block is weak af. They were scared to make anything powerful
Its definitely true, but the other two sets in the block aren't nearly as weak as Prophecy.
I started magic by buying the green preconstructed deck.
I don’t care if Prophecy is seen as bad. Still iconic.
I'm not sure I've ever heard someone argue that Prophecy is iconic.
@@NizzahonMagic Guess you didn't haven't seen all the promotional and fan made material featuring the Avatars and other Prophecy art then. *shrug* Might not be a limited player's thing.
@@mdover2948 Well, if you mean the art is iconic, I can agree to some extent. But the set is pretty devoid of iconic cards, with Rhystic Study probably the only exception
@@NizzahonMagic I mean, yes, plenty of people see art as iconic. Icons. lol you know
Nostalgia 🎉
Guys, I see a lot of channels advertising for Card Kingdom. I live in Germany and use Carkmarket. Comparing those two the prices of Card Kingdom are much higher. I am not sure if both are available in every country but if so wouldn't it be like selling your soul promoting the extremely expensive Card Kingdom? Or is it just that prices in US are generally higher?
The prices in US are generally higher, this much is true, but it's not just that. They are also much more volatile. Basically, there is a lot of market manipulation going on in the USA: resellers, scalpers, "investors", and other people like that have a huge sway there. Then, there is insider trading too: people with connections to Wizards know about future releases and bans, and use it to buy out cards that are likely to jump up in price. You are lucky that Cardmarket doesn't ship cards outside of Europe, this protects local prices to at least some degree.
On another note, Card Kingdom is on the expensive side even in the US. You can get stuff at TCGplayer for a lower price, usually.
I had played pretty steady since revised and I had bought in pretty hard on prophecy. It was so bad I didn't buy another pack until time spiral.
A Legions one has to be done
Huh, there's enough decent stuff from Prophecy to make a top 10 list... Could have fooled me.
Lol, oh ye of little faith. XD
Remember that it had the other two Masques block sets in its Standard, and that those sets were also underwhelming.
The ONLY card I know from prophecy off the top of my head is Rhystic Lightning, so that?
Do Odyssey, do Torment do Onslaught.
Will get there
@@NizzahonMagic Thank you. I love binge re-watching these playlists!
Prophecy for me holds a special place since it was the set i came back to the game. After all these years though. Its def a shit set compared to a lot of other ones.
Wasnt rhystic study in prophecy
Yes. I mentioned it more than once in this video.
heck yes
NO SPORE FROG?
I'm going out on a limb here and say something mildly controversial. I don't particularly care for the human intro. I liked the cards/voice only format.
I agree
Well then let it be if you don’t care enough to openly oppose it.
Kamigawa next pls
Prophecy is maybe one of the worst sets in MtG history.. but it is also one of the sets with best artwork in whole MtG.
No. No. Not rebels again. Nononono
YOU CANT JUST LET US READ HALF YOUR SHIRT
oh my god - I was playing since revised and took a break after the urza's set - I drafted and got to keep these cards from this set way later. None of them match up to set earlier nor later, and the mechanics were terrible. Keep up mana or discount at rare cases - none of these cards even made my kitchen-table-decks. And then commander came along and made a common the most valuable card. This set has to be worse than anything I have seen so far - and I was cracking Homelands and Fallen Empires
I really liked this set but Foil fuking ruined it. Seriously...why did Maro think free counterspells were ever a good idea? I know he wasn't the lead but you know he designed this card.
Wow. I expected bad. But these are teeeerible. A 3 mana artifact that becomes a vanilla 3/3 is at the top. Ew
Doesnt matter- Prophecy made Rhystic Study...
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