Great review. Just traded a C5 with 300,000km on the clock and still running like a dream, on one of these C4 Shines. I had reservations at first. But after driving the C4 I had none at all. I still have my 2006 C4 VTS 180HP Coupe and what a magnificent car that is. The new C4 is what I expect a Citroen to be and its still a cut above many others. Everyone who see or drives in one instantly loves it and even cant believe its a Citroen. Well done and keep up the good reviews on cars.
The old C4 VTS is a bit of a modern classic. They still look good today. But of course they can't get anywhere near the beautiful ride quality of the new C4.
I test drove this in Singapore yesterday and the steering was overly floaty and very light but the car was very sold and seats super comfortable. Having a hard time deciding between this and the Mazda 3! They're the same price over here.
A very comprehensive review thankyou and pleasant to watch. I have a C5 Citroen diesel 2014 model which I bought new and it's a delightful car to drive and to own. Concerning reliability in well over 100k kilometers it's never given me the slightest problem. I'm seriously considering buying a C4 my only reluctance being I'd have to sell my C5 to do so and I'm having great difficulty persuading myself to part with it.
Great review of a very interesting car. I owned two Citroen C5’s in years past, so comfortable and they were well built, driving was excellent and the comfort of seating and suspensions unbelievably good. Resale was terrible sadly. We also had an old C4 that had the most terrible DSG gearbox. This new very different looking version looks and sounds great.
I'm sure the 5 people who buy Citroens in Australia will be very pleased with this car. More than likely, the Citroen dealer will use one as a demo, and due to poor sales, it will be the same car for the next 3 years.
if with the "I don't know exactly what this hole is for, may be for the key", you're referring to the narrow slit in front part of the central console, just before the "hidden" storage compartment and the wireless phone charging shelf... it's meant to hold your smartphone in "tablet mode"... 😉. you stick it in and it holds it upright 🙂
The issue with the ANCAP 4 star rating is that it's not for missing crash avoidance tech like AEB, Blind spot monitoring, etc..... That stuff is forgivable for quite a lot of people, especially if you're not a new driver. It's literally an issue with poor adult occupant safety during a crash, done with EuroNCAP (which uses a lower speed as compared with American tests, and doesn't use small overlap crashes)
It does have those features - it was down graded for not having a centre airbag in the event of a side impact. The safety feature were considered moderate. ANCAP also lied or changed figured compared to Euro NCAP.
@@cjdwyer93 I'm going to trust ANCAP more than a comment, but if a early 20k Yaris can have centre airbags from base spec, a significantly more expensive car like the C4 should too. I saw from a few comments down that you've preordered one, so I hope you enjoy it. Hopefully I get to see one on the street soon as it looks interesting, but honestly, I see more Mclarens and limited edition Porsches than Citroens.
Curious, the european version has a very different material on the upper dash zone, rear armrest with ski hatch, and the door bins and armrest storage are not rubberized.
Citroen C4 got 4 star due to ONE missing airbag, i.e. a centre airbag. I don't know why Citroen decided to save money on this. I would easily give up that pseudo massage function over this airbag and buy this car. IMO it looks like a small coupe-SUV. With a hybrid engine, this would have been the perfect city commute car. I think it looks gorgeous. The French brands are good at styling.
^ oh boy this... It's the SUV craze and lift tax. The people buying these are middle to old age (like me) and there is considerable desire to be able to get in and out of a car at your hip height and not 'drop down' into a hatch/sedan. This is understandable but largely incorrect. The door gap and seat positioning are much more important. In particular your head room on the way in as this makes you have to lean. Other factors are the perceived increase in viewing height (again most of these are almost the same as a sedan). Some also think that 'because SUV I can tow my 765ft caravan'. On top of this, manufacturers have realised that buyers will pay a premium for 'SUV' or crosses like this thing. Great way to boost profit per unit. Personally, the ride of a car lower to the road is so much more comfortable. I have come through raising a family and 4WDs and SUVs galore. Now have a hatch as our second car and it is so nice being back near the road again.
@@silo_fx3182 Yup. I don't know where the pensioner myth came from. I live opposite a large senior citizens club and the carpark is near void of SUVs and bubble cars. It's a sea of regular sedans and hatches. I'm 56, have broken my back twice and have some flexibility issues and find getting in and out of my JCW Mini no harder than anything else.
Ugly is as ugly does. French? No thanks. A country that can commit an act of war against a friendly nation will never have my custom. Remember the Rainbow Warrior?
Great review. Just traded a C5 with 300,000km on the clock and still running like a dream, on one of these C4 Shines. I had reservations at first. But after driving the C4 I had none at all. I still have my 2006 C4 VTS 180HP Coupe and what a magnificent car that is. The new C4 is what I expect a Citroen to be and its still a cut above many others. Everyone who see or drives in one instantly loves it and even cant believe its a Citroen. Well done and keep up the good reviews on cars.
The old C4 VTS is a bit of a modern classic. They still look good today. But of course they can't get anywhere near the beautiful ride quality of the new C4.
I’ve pre-ordered one 🥰
No point arguing why I love Citroen because everyone’s critical. Their loss, my gain.
@@MaX.19 Sure. It’s really hard to believe your cactus has mechanical issues at 8,000 km. Not being covered under warranty usually means you F* up.
@@MaX.19 None of that is actually true.
I test drove this in Singapore yesterday and the steering was overly floaty and very light but the car was very sold and seats super comfortable. Having a hard time deciding between this and the Mazda 3! They're the same price over here.
A very comprehensive review thankyou and pleasant to watch. I have a C5 Citroen diesel 2014 model which I bought new and it's a delightful car to drive and to own. Concerning reliability in well over 100k kilometers it's never given me the slightest problem. I'm seriously considering buying a C4 my only reluctance being I'd have to sell my C5 to do so and I'm having great difficulty persuading myself to part with it.
I'd I had a little bit more confidence in the dealer network and reliability this would be on my 2022 shortlist. It is very desirable.
Especially the dealer network. My local Pug-Reno-once Citroen dealer has given-up its Citroen franchise :(
Great review of a very interesting car. I owned two Citroen C5’s in years past, so comfortable and they were well built, driving was excellent and the comfort of seating and suspensions unbelievably good. Resale was terrible sadly. We also had an old C4 that had the most terrible DSG gearbox. This new very different looking version looks and sounds great.
I'm sure the 5 people who buy Citroens in Australia will be very pleased with this car. More than likely, the Citroen dealer will use one as a demo, and due to poor sales, it will be the same car for the next 3 years.
See my reply to Liam S above re my once local dealer
Great review, thank you. The new Citroën looks fantastic and seems very well appointed. Very desirable x
if with the "I don't know exactly what this hole is for, may be for the key", you're referring to the narrow slit in front part of the central console, just before the "hidden" storage compartment and the wireless phone charging shelf... it's meant to hold your smartphone in "tablet mode"... 😉. you stick it in and it holds it upright 🙂
The issue with the ANCAP 4 star rating is that it's not for missing crash avoidance tech like AEB, Blind spot monitoring, etc..... That stuff is forgivable for quite a lot of people, especially if you're not a new driver. It's literally an issue with poor adult occupant safety during a crash, done with EuroNCAP (which uses a lower speed as compared with American tests, and doesn't use small overlap crashes)
Agree. This isn’t not something that should be lightly brushed off
It does have those features - it was down graded for not having a centre airbag in the event of a side impact. The safety feature were considered moderate. ANCAP also lied or changed figured compared to Euro NCAP.
@@cjdwyer93 I'm going to trust ANCAP more than a comment, but if a early 20k Yaris can have centre airbags from base spec, a significantly more expensive car like the C4 should too. I saw from a few comments down that you've preordered one, so I hope you enjoy it. Hopefully I get to see one on the street soon as it looks interesting, but honestly, I see more Mclarens and limited edition Porsches than Citroens.
Curious, the european version has a very different material on the upper dash zone, rear armrest with ski hatch, and the door bins and armrest storage are not rubberized.
I always wished we got Citroen here in the states.
Won't the passenger airbag send the iPad into your face at 500 mph?
Great idea tho.
The airbag is positioned above the iPad holder, so no problem
I was blown away by how good the C4 is. In my opinion it runs rings around its sister car the 2008 and is far better value.
They couldn't create a pop out table or workbench due to safety restrictions, in a collision the passenger would risk being impaled.
True. And a laptop is just as easy to have on your lap, so you don't really need a table.
no electric tail gate: WIN !!! thank you Citroën.
Nice, nice little review.
Citroen C4 got 4 star due to ONE missing airbag, i.e. a centre airbag. I don't know why Citroen decided to save money on this. I would easily give up that pseudo massage function over this airbag and buy this car. IMO it looks like a small coupe-SUV. With a hybrid engine, this would have been the perfect city commute car. I think it looks gorgeous. The French brands are good at styling.
I really want to know if four MEDIUM (not large) sized suitcases would fit in that boot.
I don't think, I know!
Its great
Price please?
At least it doesnt look boring.
No AWD making the big ground clearance baffling.
It has character!
^ oh boy this... It's the SUV craze and lift tax. The people buying these are middle to old age (like me) and there is considerable desire to be able to get in and out of a car at your hip height and not 'drop down' into a hatch/sedan. This is understandable but largely incorrect. The door gap and seat positioning are much more important. In particular your head room on the way in as this makes you have to lean.
Other factors are the perceived increase in viewing height (again most of these are almost the same as a sedan).
Some also think that 'because SUV I can tow my 765ft caravan'.
On top of this, manufacturers have realised that buyers will pay a premium for 'SUV' or crosses like this thing. Great way to boost profit per unit.
Personally, the ride of a car lower to the road is so much more comfortable. I have come through raising a family and 4WDs and SUVs galore. Now have a hatch as our second car and it is so nice being back near the road again.
@@silo_fx3182 Yup. I don't know where the pensioner myth came from. I live opposite a large senior citizens club and the carpark is near void of SUVs and bubble cars. It's a sea of regular sedans and hatches. I'm 56, have broken my back twice and have some flexibility issues and find getting in and out of my JCW Mini no harder than anything else.
Why dose it have Character?
@@Hill-Climb-Racing572 Ever owned a Citroen?
Amazing
This or the Arkana?
It's a quirky and unique looking car, but there really isn't much pulling me to buy one in all honesty.
I love ours
Aussies before you say how much better a Holden is.....remember the Holden has gone the way of the dinosaurs.......😀
Good review but no mention of the new Nissan Duke ST-L? Loving mine ..
More of a suv than a golf rival.
Looks like SUV coupe 😉
French Car European
cool sexy car
Bloody ancap BS
Good luck with servicing. My advice, DON’T TOUCH IT !!!
It’s a Citroen, reliability second only to JLR, yeah but no thank you.
Maybe 30 years ago but the times are changed. Keep on dreaming….
According to a survey published in the UK Telegraph yesterday using MotorEasy data, reliability of Citroen is second only to Honda...
Ugly is as ugly does. French? No thanks. A country that can commit an act of war against a friendly nation will never have my custom. Remember the Rainbow Warrior?
I guess you'll be avoiding German, Japanese, Italian and Chinese cars too?
Jesus more of those Kona styled front lights. Ugly car it is.
Jesus Citroen invented them years ago, Hyundai copy pasted them.
french cars suck for reliability
PSA hasn’t sucked on reliability tables for many years now
@@chasingcars fair call, i trust your insight, but i drive a 207 and it has fallen to pieces compared to my camry. Perhaps they have improved
Comparing a 207 to the current crop of PCA cars??? 😂😂😂
@@wheresmycheese8511 1 year later, nice!
It just doesn't looks right to me. Look like a cheap car for deleveoping countries...