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Green Berets are predominantly (BiLateral) while Delta Force is predominantly (Unilateral.) I personally think the Green Berets have a more dangerous mission because they’re putting their trust into host nation partner forces that don’t have the best training, gear, leadership and don’t speak English.. With a unit like Delta Force, it’s all the same Operators that spent years training and deploying (together) and they know exactly how each member of their team is going react in chaos and stress. Delta may have a cooler, sexier mission focus, but what green berets do on the FID side of things is truly challenging, dangerous work that imo doesn’t get the attention it deserves.
The FID ("Foreign Internal Defense") and SFA ("Security Force Assistance") aspect of the SF mission-set is very simple; the first is just about propping up and/or helping improve a foreign partner force (think of all the exchanges and training deployments they do around the world), while the second is about advisory and limited assistance to a partner force (think of efforts such as against ISIS in northern Iraq, assisting the Iraqi and Kurdish forces). The U/IW ("Unconventional/Irregular Warfare") - Indirect Action, or IA (as opposed to Direct Action, or DA; the 75th Rangers' and "Delta's" domain) - aspect of their mission-set, however, is what you described. The whole point of it is to enable and coordinate proxies (regular or otherwise) to fight asymmetrically against a common foe; possibly without a need for the US to get directly involved with "boots on the ground" (read, "large, conventional forces"). This can be useful, for instance, so that the US can fight an adversary indirectly, thus avoiding an "all-out" war with that adversary - e.g.: when the US propped up the Afghan Mujahideen to fight against the Soviets; a more recent example (still in Afghanistan) was during the invasion phase, when the SF worked with the Afghan Northern Alliance (ANA) to coordinate ground actions and air strikes against the Taliban.
@@gabrielcabral1665 Dude, there ain’t anything “simple” about working in the “By, With and Through” of a host nation indigenous force.. I can’t keep track of how many times SF ODA guys got left behind in a gun fight by their partner force when the heat got turned up. Our SF guys are putting their trust in these partner forces and (praying to God) that #1 They don’t accidentally shoot them. #2 They don’t run away when the gun fight intensifies, and #3 they are not working for the Opfor in a counter intelligence effort.
@@joesgotya9930, re-read my first reply to your commentary. I was referring specifically to the SF's FID and SFA missions - and NOT to their U/IW mission (which is what you're focusing on). While U/IW is the SF's speciality, it's FID and SFA that represent the bulk of what the SF do 24/7/365, and these are very [relatively] simple in concept and execution - especially so when compared with U/IW (which has all of the risks and considerations that you pointed out in your reply to me).
No! SF typically work in friendly countries. Green Berets are primarily teachers whereas Deltas are counter terrorism. Of course, during the war on terror every special operations unit including Rangers were tasked with direct action raids, etc.
My uncle was scariest guy I ever met, you can tell a lot from a person's eyes. I never understood it tell I was old enough to talk him about Vietnam. Some of the stories he told me about his time with 5th SFG were just crazy. I mean being out in the jungle for weeks without any real back-up while engaging it touch-and-go fights. The kind of mindset you have to have for that is next level.
I recently watched an episode of SRS. Shawn interviewed Chris VanSant. I do recall Chris mentioning that the standards for Delta qual are only known by a handful of people in the cadre. The 2 part interview was extremely informative, intense and had the usually highlights of military humor.
SRS has probably become one of the best interviewers of military guys on RUclips. That was a good one with CVS. I live literally right next door to Ft Bragg and know guys from both. All are solid guys but the ones I know that were Delta just seem so much more measured about everything. Both SF and D guys are super intelligent but the Delta guys are just a different level. One of my neighbors was in Delta eval and broke his femur about 2 weeks shy of completing the first phase. He was already an SF guy and invited back when he healed. He did make it through the second time. Thanks to all who wear the uniform and defend our country. God Bless America 🤙🤙🇺🇸
I’ve heard a couple of reasons around why that is. One is they are selecting for a slightly different/stronger mindset in Delta. The selection process is more about the individual than the group. For the entire process you’re never part of a team and so you don’t get that group support/motivation. It’s all on you, and in your own head. And the lack of knowledge, how long this tab is going to, or how quickly you need go is to screw with your head even more. The other is it gives them more options to fail guys because they don’t think they will fit in, or have spotted the wrong attitude. Or they just want them to repeat selection for whatever reason. In the late 80s I heard of a guy on SAS selection, he was overheard saying “here we go again” as he put his Burgen on. He was pulled off selection less than an hour later. Maybe they thought he was too -ve. Who knows. There’s a swimming phase in BUD/S that I’ve heard can be used to fail candidates that have passed everything but the instructors don’t think will fit in / make a good SEAL. It’s in diving gear but I can’t remember if it’s closed or open circuit. Anyway as you’re effectively at the mercy of the instructors you’re not going to make it if they don’t want you too.
@@recce8619 The buds swim phase is the one that gets the most guys to quit or get rolled. I was a pretty tough dude in my day but the swim phase most likely would have crushed me too.
Fun fact: Prior to SF-OD, there was the Blue Light Task Force, but Colonel Beckwith won out. We Rangers trained with the BLTF back in the 1970s to be their containment and backup force. Also Randy Shughart came from 2/75 Rangers and was selected into SF-OD
Shughart didn't come from Rangers he came into CAG from the Special Forces, you can see him wearing his green beret with the USASOC flash on it in old pictures of him with Gary Gordon before they died.
@@MCHH-ml2qq Yes and no... Randy and I served in the same platoon of the 2nd Ranger Battalion in the mid-1970s. He left the military, then reenlisted and joined SF.
I was in 18C for 6 years 2007-2012. At least then, we referred to tiers to distinguish funding sources and availability. Not sure if they were precisely accurate. But we did reference the tier system. Generally that often does correlate to unit quality (DEVGRU/CAG). Yet there were cases such as SF detachments that were "tier 1" based on their designated mission. Korea, CIF, Rangers assigned to support CAG, etc. They definitely had superior equipment and training options to a standard ODA.
It doesn't make sense to refer to Delta as green berets. Members of Delta Force wear whatever color beret they are qualified to wear. This means if they entered CAG selection as a Ranger from the 75th, they'll be wearing a tan beret after passing selection. The only green berets in Delta Force are the ones who already wore a green beret when they entered selection. Your beret doesn't get upgraded. Its flash, however, does get updated to the USASOC flash. So you keep the beret, but whatever color it is, it enhanced with that USASOC flash.
They all really fall under MARSOC But it would be nice to see you gets priority over what missions and what equipment who takes priority over who My guess is IMF and CIA are the most secretive then it's who's command is sucking up at the pentagon the most if you get the good calls
When it comes to "have to become a Tier 2 Green Beret first" in order to be a so-called "tier 1 green beret (which I think you are referring to Unit operators with 18 series MOS)", Chris VanSant is an example of attending Q course to change his MOS from 11B to 18E after becoming an Unit operator. 😂
Yep, exactly. Delta is Tier 1, Special Forces is Tier 2, you can be in Delta with an 18 series MOS but you still wouldn't call that a "Tier 1 Green Beret"
Green Berets is Actually the Grand DADDY of Delta because JFK started them for Vietnam, And Delta was Started in 1978 IRAN for Terrorists response. You would think DELTA is OLDER than GREEN BERETS The way they a referenced🤷
@@mohammadmahbub-ulhaquephil6341what's there about saffron terrorist? I just commented about your country's special forces. On the contrary we don't have Ansarullah Bangla team.
@@joesgotya9930 not really. It would just be really cool to see a comparison between the world’s elite. But I have seen the fights in comments about who’s the best. I’m honestly sick and tired of the constant dick measuring and would rather just appreciate the fact that all those units are allies and not enemies.
@@nbdb23 .. They’re all the same in terms of Organizational structure and charter. Their training, gear, tactics, assets and resources are all damn near the same albeit the US has more of that from a funding POV. The biggest factor that separates US and UK SOF is the intelligence infrastructure. These Units lethality comes from the speed and consistency of the intelligence folks that drive these Units where they need to be. The reason Delta Force could hit 8-10 targets a night mid GWOT was because they had a intelligence Army numbered in the 10s of thousands of personnel behind them that could exploit and analyze information at the speed of war.. The UK SF although heavily active alongside US SOF, did not have this same massive intelligence conglomerate in their Organizations. Former JSOC commander Stanly McCrystal articulates this point in his book “My Share of the Task”
@@joesgotya9930 I bet you didn't write that yourself, you just copy and paste,copy and paste, copy and paste.....You like to give the impression that you've some kind of expert......pathetic
You don't have to be a green beret to become a unit member anyone who meets the standards can attend selection.Chris vanzant went from a ranger regiment to the 82nd to delta.
Shrek McPhee mentioned in one of his interviews that he could have skipped Special Forces and went to CAG from 75th Rangers. He didn't want to be a Green Beret, but thought it was a necessary next step. Like some people who make videos.
General Discharge, I thought about you last week when I ran into a brief situation on my way to catch my local city bus. Have you ever considered doing a vlog piece on rairoad police. I was stopped for running over train tracks. I never knew there was a railroad police department. I thought that would be an interesting segment for General Discharge. Keep up the great work.
To be clear, those who try out for Delta are not strictly all Army personnel. Delta take from all 3 branches of military (even Seals will try out for it save ST6 - although I believe 1 did) with the main reason behind it is that, as the video mentioned, their attrition rate is in excess of 90%+
Deltas and DevGru absolutely refer to themselves as Tier 1. And the largest group during selections are Rangers. Next biggest group is SF Green Berets. Majority of Deltas are Rangers.
@Steve Sherman you are absolutely wrong! Rangers have always supported Delta. Not SF. The majority have always been from Ranger Regt. Very common for Deltas to take a cycle break and go through the Q Course so if they have to leave CAG they can go to a group. You're absolutely wrong!
SFOD-D has nothing to do with an SF ODA. The name has changed, but the name Delta came from the b-52 program in Vietnam. This was under MAC-V and project Delta (B-52) later became the famous SOG recon teams. SFOD-D may recruit mainly from Rangers and SF, but as Beckwith’s book states, they just connected the two in name only. If memory serves me right, it was kind of something he quickly pulled out of his ass when asked what they were going to call it by some general.
Well ok what does the SD stand for in 1st SF ODD stand for additionally, show me a picture of a ODD in his class A what color is his head dress then? For the record I spent 10 years in the Army and 4 of those years was with the 75thRR as an 11Alpha.
@@KILLJOY375 @KILLJOY375 If he was previously an 18-series (and therefore was awarded the green beret upon passing SF Q-course) then he would wear a green beret. If he came from Regiment, then he would wear tan. Delta operator Thomas Payne (MOH recipient) came from 1st Batt so he wore the tan beret.
I had an online argument recently with an ex Navy seal about whether or not Delta Force were "Green Berets". They are not. (He erroneously thought I had stated that they are). "Green Berets" are the head gear authorized by US President Kennedy for the US Army Special Forces upon completion of their " Q" course. As many Delta Force operators come from the 75th Ranger Regiment and never attend the Special Forces Qualification Course "Q " course, they are never authorized to wear the Green Beret, thus to call Delta Force "Tier One Green Berets" is incorrect Even though the US Army officially refers to Delta as the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment - Delta, that does not make them "Green Berets". When I was on active duty stationed at Fort Campbell, Delta Force held almost annual recruitment seminars which were by invite only, and I was sent an invite even though I was not combat arms, but did meet some arbitrary age, rank, and GT score criteria. I attended a couple but never felt the urge to try out
@@devinaugurson9347 I think you misunderstood my comment. I never said Delta was not Special Forces, just not Green Berets Green Berets refers to a graduate of a specific military school. Delta Force operators are not required to go to the Special Forces qualification course. Many Delta operators are ex rangers, and never ever wore a Green Beret. You can't lump all of army Special Forces as Green Berets. Delta stands apart. In my time at Fort Bragg before I retired from active duty, I would drive by the Delta Force compound on my way to my unit headquarters daily. It was an island unto itself with nothing to do with the." Green Berets". You cannot compare Delta & Green Berets to devgru and seals. Devgru is an immediate rung up the ladder from regular seals. There exists no such connection between Delta and regular Green Berets
The CAG comes from both the 75th and SF and from the Airborne. Those who came from SF wear their green beret. Those who came from the 75th wear their sand beret, and for example, those who came from the 82nd wear their maroon beret.
@@AlexJeroy I know this. My my comment was that the video mistake when he calls tier 1 Green Berets, some Delta operators May wear a Green Beret, but that does not make the unit's a Green Beret unit
@@devinaugurson9347 then again, many soldiers wear the Green Beret just because they're assigned to one of the Green Beret companies, but are not Q qualifier. Q course qualified Green Berets, wear what they called the full flash on their beret, those soldiers only assigned to a Green Beret unit but not Q qualified, wear a much smaller patch on their beret. So, if you can't even trust anyone wearing a green beret to be fully Special Forces qualified, you can see how selective it is to wear the Green Beret
@@emmanuelawosusi2365 lmao you're fucking retarded. Not even close dipshit. Rangers are way more skilled and are literally the only SOCOM unit that is an extension of JSOC. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Lmao. Marsoc is trash. They literally did an FTX recently and conducted a raid with 70 operators to take out a single building with 2 OpForce inside and this is the ratio higher ups felt comfortable with. You think Rangers would be this scared? Hahaha
2:00 my understanding is that the Tier system was devised to categories forces from a fiscal perspective within the US department of defence and so was only meant to aid in funding policies etc.
During deployment we had seals with us. I honestly forgot which one, I wanna say either 3 or 4. Towards the end of deployment something big happened. And guess who came and replaced the seals that were with us? Seal team 6. And our qrf was replaced by 2nd ranger bat
I've never understood the arguments between the 75th Ranger community and the Green Berets when it comes to who has the most representation in CAG. It has been stated many, many times by CAG operators that your previous training is of no use to them. If you pass selection you are started at the basics, including basic marksmanship, so that you are trained up in how Delta does it. Many have stated in interviews that they had to unlearn old training habits to pick up on the new training that Delta gave them. There are too many unanswered questions that need to be answered in order to be able to chest thump for either side. 1) What group had the majority of the participants at selection? If more 75th guys are trying out for selection than GBs, then yeah you would most likely see more 75th in Delta. 2) Of those that attempted selection, what percentage of GB's passed vs 75th rangers passed. 3) We have no written varifiable documentation on the numbers, we do have alot of hearsay. Should we make concrete judgements on hearsay? Both groups (75th, GBs) are American Heros, both have different mission sets. The average age for a Green Beret is 31 years old and the average age for the 75th is 24 years old. So, there is a different level of maturity between the groups. Both are dangerous, both have created awesome warriors, and I would want the both on my side in a fight.
The 70% are Rangers came from General Wayne Downing during a Congressional hearing. I suppose you could still call that hearsay and it was from like 2001 or some shit, but it's probably about as verifiable as you'll ever get. There might be more 75th guys trying. I think the 75th is a harder place to get comfortable and the rank structure lends itself to wanting to move on to a SMU once your E6-7, but there are also over 2x as many GBs running around.
Most of the Rangers are in Delta because that’s where most of the assaulters come from. Delta recruit people from other units for different roles to fill up the squadrons.
@Steve Sherman Rangers have a very high pass rate through SFAS. I’m not sure where you are getting this idea that most Rangers would not pass it. And no, most GBs would not make good Rangers. Some would. Not most for sure.
I love the content but this is basically two old videos combined I was hoping to hear more about the CIF units and that school with the crazy long name.
John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School (SWCS); it's a component of the 1st Special Forces Command (Airborne), and it trains personnel from the SF, Civil Affairs, PSYOP, etc, as well as develop new SW tactics, techniques and procedures, and such (based on lessons learned in real life).
CAG and SF are two entirely different entities, 1 is not the other. And Delta are NOT green berets, nor ever termed as one. As stated Delta pulls from everywhere, and nooooo, green Berets do not comprise the bulk of the unit, it is a mixed bag of regular ARMY, Green Berets, Rangers, MARSOC, SEALS, and so on, 1STSFOD is its own thing, Green Berets have their own pipeline, just like Rangers. Like seal team 6, CAG is the cream of the crop, unlike the SEALS the ARMY recognized that they possess a pool of men who have the potential to be the razors edge of the tip of the spear, but may be in the regular ARMY or any of its other entities and they're smart about who is selected. Green Berets have tens of thousands of Green Berets in the history of the US ARMY, where as Delta has only selected under 1500, in 45 years!
If a supposed tier1 green beret (delta) undergoes additional training beyond that of a tier2 green beret, doesn’t that inherently make that individual superior (as you stated - more badass)?
If I remember correctly, delta is a tier 1 unit that can take personnel from all branches. There mission, we probably will never know fully. Like all tier 1 units, theyre almost impossible to know much about. Theres more tier 1 units than we can easily look up and they include some federal policing agencies. Green berets are a strictly army, tier 2 unit. They do mainly training of foreign forces. Highly simplistic explanations but thats what ive been told.
Delta is not Green Berets. They wear the color of the beret they earned at the time of the selection course. If you were a Ranger, you wore Tan, SF you wear Green, the rest i BELIEVE will get Maroon beret regardless. i went to BNCOC with a few guys that were Delta. they came from Ranger Regiment as lower enlisted and/or E5s and were selected for Delta. unlike SF, whose Q-course counts as BNCOC (or whatever they changed the name of the school to these days), Delta does not have that. so when it is time to promote to E-6, they have to go back to their primary MOS's BNCOC/ALC/whatever course to meet the NCOES requirements for promotion. so, the Ranger/Delta guys had their Tan berets for school (cause beret was the headgear at that time). i would assume the alternative to going to BNCOC would have been going through Q-course, but that seems like it would be too much time and work for something that you are already beyond, so the easiest way to get back to Delta would be to do regular old BNCOC/ALC/whatever like a normal E-5/E-6, and get back to your team.
So a person with a sword and two Lightening Bolts is a Person who was a DELTA OPERATOR who chose to come back and be a SPECIAL FORCES OPERATOR for some reason. I think my Brother was a SGT said it was a couple of Drill SGT s when he became a Drill worn such a Patch . They were retiring on a DRILL cycle like he did 🤷
i remeber reading a book about delta force in which during OTC there was Green Berets and Rangers. Not sure if this still aplies since the book was in the timeline of the beggining of Delta Force.
I've found in any Institution even Special Operations there always has to be a class system. Any 11b can operate. If it's so difficult? Why is there a peer sheet. So the Good Ole boys can control the narrative.
'Don't say Delta Force is more badass than a green beret' Sorry, I respectfully beg to differ :). Nothing against Green Berets, GB's are AWESOME, and Delta is SUPER AWESOME...
Never heard anyone say "tier one green beret''. You do not have to go through SFAS first to get a shot at CAG selection. Majority of operators that make it there are pulled from regiment
@@Devin183 he said a large portion, not "most". Example being let's say 50% of CAG are Rangers, but 40% are SF and the other 10% are filled in from other branches. Get it now?
DEVGRU vs SBS would be the correct comparison, not vanilla seals, theyre more on the level of the Royal Marine Commandos albeit probably just slightly better
There's no "tier 1 Green Beret" and "tier 2 Green Berets". You're either Green Beret or not. The Delta unit, later on named Combat Applications Group (CAG) or Army Compartmented Element (ACE), goes in and kills someone or destroys something or whatever and gets out. The Green Berets can do that and more. The Green Berets can stay behind.
Many put too much emphasis on the differences and the tiering system, the vast overwhelming majority of ODA and CAG are where they want to be and more importantly, where they belong. Two completely different set of directives, mission mandates etc., though overlap where it matters the most forward, one team, one fight.🇺🇸
Lol They’re the same thing. The SRR was literally molded off the ISA in 2005. It’s like comparing the SAS and Delta Force, same animal different accent lol
@@joesgotya9930 I know they are based on the ISA, that's why I choose them. Even with that there are usually going to be at least some minor differences.
The comment in this video that Green Berets don’t use translators in the field is incorrect - In Iraq, they were embedded w/us and often went outside the wire w/ the teams. In Iraq, we called them “TERPS” - short for interpreters.
I know they do direct action, hostage rescue home defence against terrorism within the uk, direct support for tirr 1 units, reconnaissance, training foreign militaries etc.
Besides the fact that their countries are allies and have a long-lasting historical bond (thus preventing such a scenario from happening), and the fact that such ponderings are too superficial (e.g.: what KIND of battle/engagement? One defending and one attacking? A double-assault on a target? A direct engagement, or an asymmetrical one? etc, and so on), one must understand that different units, and from different countries, will have different needs and priorities (and thus, different types of support, different doctrinal orientation/specialty, and so forth). For instance, the 22 SAS Rgt has slightly more Operators in its ranks than "Delta" (256+ against 224+), and the SAS 'Sabre' Squadrons are organized into four Troops (Air, Boat, Mobility & Mountain), whereas "Delta's" Assault Squadrons are organized into three Troops (2x Assault Troops, + 1x Reconnaissance & Sniper Troop); but on the other hand, "Delta" has a dedicated aviation Squadron, while the SAS relies on dedicated Army and RAF helicopter units that support it, and JSOC just has far more resources and assets (its own and the USSOCOM's) at its disposal than the UKSF to better arm, equip, train and support its operational components. Either one of the two could beat the other, if the scenario in question was in their favor, somehow; if the conditions and circumstances were just right; if one had the advantage of having the initiative first, and/or volume of force; etc...
a tier 1 green beret is a green beret that is in a smu. being in the unit doesnt make u a green beret.2 different paths. if a ranger or marine gets into delta that doesnt make them green berets. also u dont have to be a green beret to be in delta,guys that do that are doing so to change their mos because its faster and easier if ur sf. plenty of dudes from82nd and regular old big army get in to delta all the time. they arent looking for the best guy,theyre looking for the right guy.
@@davidhelfrich2511, only "Delta" recruits from all branches; the ISA only recruits from the Army, the RRC only recruits from within the 75th Ranger Regiment, and "DEVGRU" only recruits from within the Naval Special Warfare (SeAL & SBT/SWCC) community - and all are SMUs; not just "Delta".
Could you do a video on Irish Army Ranger Wing? You know, expand outward to world military knowledge. If you think there’s still plenty of American stuff to talk about that’s fine, but it seems like that well has run dry.
Although "Delta Force" was originally created from within the U.S. Army Special Forces community by SF Colonel Charles A. Beckwith - and despite its original, [non-]"official" designation being 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-DELTA (Airborne), for disinformation -, "Delta" IS NOT, and NEVER WAS a component of the Special Forces branch; "Delta" is an independent organization within the Army (much like the 75th Ranger Regiment, for instance). "Delta" does not have a specific beret or a cap badge/beret flash of its own, and its members wear the beret of their previous unit/branch of the Army, with the USASOC seal/DUI in place of a cap badge/beret flash. "Delta" members don't have to originate from the SF ("Delta" recruits from the whole Army; the whole of the armed forces, actually), and their selection and training pipeline are separate and completely different - for SF, candidates go through SFAS, then the SFQC; for "Delta", they go through their selection phase, then undertake the OTC (with no requirement of being SF qualified, or whatever). Also, the SF branch at large wasn't "Tier 2" (the "Tier" system is no longer in use); only the SF "Commander's 'In-Extremis' Force"/"Crisis Response Force" (CIF/CRF) Companies were "Tier 2", as supporting elements to JSOC (on a need basis; not regular) - but these were deactivated; now they've come up with... "Hard Target Defeat" (HTD) Companies in their place, if I'm not mistaken (go figure)...
2:10 False The number means everything While tier 2 is more diverse, featuring the bare minimum of SOF and the candidacy for Tier 1 The average tier 2 is cheap fodder compared to the average tier 1 SOF go hard but sadly the majority of Tier 2s are not That Hard There’s scaling for each and every SOF of where their population statistics align on the spectrum Such as how their entries, moderates, veterans and superiors tend to perform on such spectrum This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t think of why specifically they exist It’s just an invaluable standard of measuring the character of a SOF’s members
I thought it was true that not all Delta Force operators are Green Berets and that Delta force will pull from special force operators from the other branches as well? I feel that should have been mentioned.
This is correct, and there has actually been a DEVGRU Seal come over to CAG after a break in service. As for the “Tier 1 Green Beret” thing…. It’s a crap title. 60%-70% of CAG comes from the 75th Ranger Regiment and when they move over to CAG, they keep their TAN berets. So the majority of CAG doesn’t even wear a green beret.
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I would love to see a video about the Army's investigative/intelligence elements, CID and Counter Intelligence
Can you do a video on the Intelligence Support Activity vs the British Special Reconnaissance Regiment?
Can you do a video about army eod or the 28th eod company please
75th RR vs RRC please, same format of this, very informative thank you
@@deth4u258 he already did that
Green Berets are predominantly (BiLateral) while Delta Force is predominantly (Unilateral.) I personally think the Green Berets have a more dangerous mission because they’re putting their trust into host nation partner forces that don’t have the best training, gear, leadership and don’t speak English.. With a unit like Delta Force, it’s all the same Operators that spent years training and deploying (together) and they know exactly how each member of their team is going react in chaos and stress. Delta may have a cooler, sexier mission focus, but what green berets do on the FID side of things is truly challenging, dangerous work that imo doesn’t get the attention it deserves.
The FID ("Foreign Internal Defense") and SFA ("Security Force Assistance") aspect of the SF mission-set is very simple; the first is just about propping up and/or helping improve a foreign partner force (think of all the exchanges and training deployments they do around the world), while the second is about advisory and limited assistance to a partner force (think of efforts such as against ISIS in northern Iraq, assisting the Iraqi and Kurdish forces).
The U/IW ("Unconventional/Irregular Warfare") - Indirect Action, or IA (as opposed to Direct Action, or DA; the 75th Rangers' and "Delta's" domain) - aspect of their mission-set, however, is what you described. The whole point of it is to enable and coordinate proxies (regular or otherwise) to fight asymmetrically against a common foe; possibly without a need for the US to get directly involved with "boots on the ground" (read, "large, conventional forces").
This can be useful, for instance, so that the US can fight an adversary indirectly, thus avoiding an "all-out" war with that adversary - e.g.: when the US propped up the Afghan Mujahideen to fight against the Soviets; a more recent example (still in Afghanistan) was during the invasion phase, when the SF worked with the Afghan Northern Alliance (ANA) to coordinate ground actions and air strikes against the Taliban.
@@gabrielcabral1665 Dude, there ain’t anything “simple” about working in the “By, With and Through” of a host nation indigenous force.. I can’t keep track of how many times SF ODA guys got left behind in a gun fight by their partner force when the heat got turned up. Our SF guys are putting their trust in these partner forces and (praying to God) that #1 They don’t accidentally shoot them. #2 They don’t run away when the gun fight intensifies, and #3 they are not working for the Opfor in a counter intelligence effort.
@@joesgotya9930, re-read my first reply to your commentary. I was referring specifically to the SF's FID and SFA missions - and NOT to their U/IW mission (which is what you're focusing on).
While U/IW is the SF's speciality, it's FID and SFA that represent the bulk of what the SF do 24/7/365, and these are very [relatively] simple in concept and execution - especially so when compared with U/IW (which has all of the risks and considerations that you pointed out in your reply to me).
FID was big gay. Rather be shooty shooty
No! SF typically work in friendly countries. Green Berets are primarily teachers whereas Deltas are counter terrorism. Of course, during the war on terror every special operations unit including Rangers were tasked with direct action raids, etc.
My uncle was scariest guy I ever met, you can tell a lot from a person's eyes. I never understood it tell I was old enough to talk him about Vietnam. Some of the stories he told me about his time with 5th SFG were just crazy. I mean being out in the jungle for weeks without any real back-up while engaging it touch-and-go fights. The kind of mindset you have to have for that is next level.
I recently watched an episode of SRS. Shawn interviewed Chris VanSant. I do recall Chris mentioning that the standards for Delta qual are only known by a handful of people in the cadre. The 2 part interview was extremely informative, intense and had the usually highlights of military humor.
SRS has probably become one of the best interviewers of military guys on RUclips. That was a good one with CVS. I live literally right next door to Ft Bragg and know guys from both. All are solid guys but the ones I know that were Delta just seem so much more measured about everything. Both SF and D guys are super intelligent but the Delta guys are just a different level. One of my neighbors was in Delta eval and broke his femur about 2 weeks shy of completing the first phase. He was already an SF guy and invited back when he healed. He did make it through the second time. Thanks to all who wear the uniform and defend our country. God Bless America 🤙🤙🇺🇸
@@ibbylancaster8981 Amen to that brother! #americafirst.
Listened to part 1 and 2 on my plane ride, love Chris and Shawn
I’ve heard a couple of reasons around why that is.
One is they are selecting for a slightly different/stronger mindset in Delta. The selection process is more about the individual than the group. For the entire process you’re never part of a team and so you don’t get that group support/motivation. It’s all on you, and in your own head. And the lack of knowledge, how long this tab is going to, or how quickly you need go is to screw with your head even more.
The other is it gives them more options to fail guys because they don’t think they will fit in, or have spotted the wrong attitude. Or they just want them to repeat selection for whatever reason. In the late 80s I heard of a guy on SAS selection, he was overheard saying “here we go again” as he put his Burgen on. He was pulled off selection less than an hour later. Maybe they thought he was too -ve. Who knows.
There’s a swimming phase in BUD/S that I’ve heard can be used to fail candidates that have passed everything but the instructors don’t think will fit in / make a good SEAL. It’s in diving gear but I can’t remember if it’s closed or open circuit. Anyway as you’re effectively at the mercy of the instructors you’re not going to make it if they don’t want you too.
@@recce8619 The buds swim phase is the one that gets the most guys to quit or get rolled. I was a pretty tough dude in my day but the swim phase most likely would have crushed me too.
I’ve never heard of a CAG operator being referred to as a T1 Green Beret. I thought they were just completely separate units
Because they're not. This video is terrible for calling them such.
This video is flat out wrong. Delta does not wear the green beret unless former SF members. Delta is it’s own command altogether. This vid is a fail.
That's because nobody does. This video is confusing the issue for something else.
Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta. Delta force. Some people still believe that they are still part of SF. They split off long ago.
They are completely different units.
Fun fact:
Prior to SF-OD, there was the Blue Light Task Force, but Colonel Beckwith won out.
We Rangers trained with the BLTF back in the 1970s to be their containment and backup force.
Also Randy Shughart came from 2/75 Rangers and was selected into SF-OD
Shughart didn't come from Rangers he came into CAG from the Special Forces, you can see him wearing his green beret with the USASOC flash on it in old pictures of him with Gary Gordon before they died.
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Yes and no...
Randy and I served in the same platoon of the 2nd Ranger Battalion in the mid-1970s.
He left the military, then reenlisted and joined SF.
@@Stoney_AKA_James 2-78 .... you?
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2/75
@@garyrobertson5629life is trippy isn't it
I was in 18C for 6 years 2007-2012. At least then, we referred to tiers to distinguish funding sources and availability. Not sure if they were precisely accurate. But we did reference the tier system. Generally that often does correlate to unit quality (DEVGRU/CAG). Yet there were cases such as SF detachments that were "tier 1" based on their designated mission. Korea, CIF, Rangers assigned to support CAG, etc. They definitely had superior equipment and training options to a standard ODA.
It doesn't make sense to refer to Delta as green berets. Members of Delta Force wear whatever color beret they are qualified to wear. This means if they entered CAG selection as a Ranger from the 75th, they'll be wearing a tan beret after passing selection. The only green berets in Delta Force are the ones who already wore a green beret when they entered selection. Your beret doesn't get upgraded. Its flash, however, does get updated to the USASOC flash. So you keep the beret, but whatever color it is, it enhanced with that USASOC flash.
Can you do rangers vs SEALS or Rangers vs MARSOC
Seals and raiders are pretty similar while rangers are completely different
@@mrnoname_2193 LOL
They all really fall under MARSOC
But it would be nice to see you gets priority over what missions and what equipment who takes priority over who
My guess is IMF and CIA are the most secretive then it's who's command is sucking up at the pentagon the most if you get the good calls
@MrNoname_ you have no idea what you're talking about lol. SEALs are basically wet rangers
I’ve been asking for a Raiders vs Rangers video for the past year +
When it comes to "have to become a Tier 2 Green Beret first" in order to be a so-called "tier 1 green beret (which I think you are referring to Unit operators with 18 series MOS)", Chris VanSant is an example of attending Q course to change his MOS from 11B to 18E after becoming an Unit operator. 😂
Yep, exactly. Delta is Tier 1, Special Forces is Tier 2, you can be in Delta with an 18 series MOS but you still wouldn't call that a "Tier 1 Green Beret"
@@jimbojimson haha you get me bro
@@jimbojimson Isn't CAG still considered "Special Forces" since their officially name is Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta?
Bob Poras is another good example too. Got selected, never went to the Q, but got selected for The Unit later on
Green Berets is Actually the Grand DADDY of Delta because JFK started them for Vietnam, And Delta was Started in 1978 IRAN for Terrorists response. You would think DELTA is OLDER than GREEN BERETS The way they a referenced🤷
You definitely don't have to become a "tier 2" Green Beret first... Delta selection is open to all branches and MOS's...
Love how you guys educate us(civilians) with military knowledge in simple terms. Thank you again, love from Bangladesh
Bangladesh has RAB right.
@@nilanjangupta763 At least we don't have safron terrorists 🕶️
@@mohammadmahbub-ulhaquephil6341what's there about saffron terrorist? I just commented about your country's special forces. On the contrary we don't have Ansarullah Bangla team.
@@nilanjangupta763 para commando brigade
@@mohammadmahbub-ulhaquephil6341 You have actual terrorists.
75th ranger regiment is also a very good pipeline for delta
Yup
It’s better actually
It would be awesome if you could do Delta Force vs SAS or DEVGRU vs SBS for a future video.
😂😂😂 Are you trying to start a fight? The comment section on that would catch on fire
@@joesgotya9930 ugh, you again.
@@joesgotya9930 not really. It would just be really cool to see a comparison between the world’s elite. But I have seen the fights in comments about who’s the best. I’m honestly sick and tired of the constant dick measuring and would rather just appreciate the fact that all those units are allies and not enemies.
@@nbdb23 .. They’re all the same in terms of Organizational structure and charter. Their training, gear, tactics, assets and resources are all damn near the same albeit the US has more of that from a funding POV. The biggest factor that separates US and UK SOF is the intelligence infrastructure. These Units lethality comes from the speed and consistency of the intelligence folks that drive these Units where they need to be. The reason Delta Force could hit 8-10 targets a night mid GWOT was because they had a intelligence Army numbered in the 10s of thousands of personnel behind them that could exploit and analyze information at the speed of war.. The UK SF although heavily active alongside US SOF, did not have this same massive intelligence conglomerate in their Organizations. Former JSOC commander Stanly McCrystal articulates this point in his book “My Share of the Task”
@@joesgotya9930 I bet you didn't write that yourself, you just copy and paste,copy and paste, copy and paste.....You like to give the impression that you've some kind of expert......pathetic
Please do U.S. Army Counterintelligence next!
I have been a long time subscriber and I can’t tell you how much I love your content. You guys are really an amazing bunch. God bless, take care.
Would love a vid on USNA as a follow up to the USMA vid you have made before. Maybe even the differences between the two
We're planning on releasing a video that talks about all of the service academies - stay tuned!
You don't have to be a green beret to become a unit member anyone who meets the standards can attend selection.Chris vanzant went from a ranger regiment to the 82nd to delta.
Im picking at details here, but Chris Vansant got kicked out of Ranger Regiment because of a DUI, went to big army, took the Long Walk from there
Shrek McPhee mentioned in one of his interviews that he could have skipped Special Forces and went to CAG from 75th Rangers.
He didn't want to be a Green Beret, but thought it was a necessary next step. Like some people who make videos.
Brad Thomas also went from Rangers to Delta.😊
These men deserve every dollar they earn for their training and hard work
Wrong! The only results in the military that matter are winning. They lose wars and don't deserve a penny.
They make dog shit
General Discharge, I thought about you last week when I ran into a brief situation on my way to catch my local city bus. Have you ever considered doing a vlog piece on rairoad police. I was stopped for running over train tracks. I never knew there was a railroad police department. I thought that would be an interesting segment for General Discharge. Keep up the great work.
To be clear, those who try out for Delta are not strictly all Army personnel. Delta take from all 3 branches of military (even Seals will try out for it save ST6 - although I believe 1 did) with the main reason behind it is that, as the video mentioned, their attrition rate is in excess of 90%+
One is definitely known to have to the public, word he is not the only DEVGRU guy to go CAG.
Deltas and DevGru absolutely refer to themselves as Tier 1. And the largest group during selections are Rangers. Next biggest group is SF Green Berets. Majority of Deltas are Rangers.
@Steve Sherman you are absolutely wrong! Rangers have always supported Delta. Not SF. The majority have always been from Ranger Regt. Very common for Deltas to take a cycle break and go through the Q Course so if they have to leave CAG they can go to a group. You're absolutely wrong!
SFOD-D has nothing to do with an SF ODA. The name has changed, but the name Delta came from the b-52 program in Vietnam. This was under MAC-V and project Delta (B-52) later became the famous SOG recon teams. SFOD-D may recruit mainly from Rangers and SF, but as Beckwith’s book states, they just connected the two in name only. If memory serves me right, it was kind of something he quickly pulled out of his ass when asked what they were going to call it by some general.
Well ok what does the SD stand for in 1st SF ODD stand for additionally, show me a picture of a ODD in his class A what color is his head dress then?
For the record I spent 10 years in the Army and 4 of those years was with the 75thRR as an 11Alpha.
@@KILLJOY375 @KILLJOY375 If he was previously an 18-series (and therefore was awarded the green beret upon passing SF Q-course) then he would wear a green beret. If he came from Regiment, then he would wear tan. Delta operator Thomas Payne (MOH recipient) came from 1st Batt so he wore the tan beret.
I had an online argument recently with an ex Navy seal about whether or not Delta Force were "Green Berets". They are not. (He erroneously thought I had stated that they are). "Green Berets" are the head gear authorized by US President Kennedy for the US Army Special Forces upon completion of their " Q" course. As many Delta Force operators come from the 75th Ranger Regiment and never attend the Special Forces Qualification Course "Q " course, they are never authorized to wear the Green Beret, thus to call Delta Force "Tier One Green Berets" is incorrect
Even though the US Army officially refers to Delta as the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment - Delta, that does not make them "Green Berets". When I was on active duty stationed at Fort Campbell, Delta Force held almost annual recruitment seminars which were by invite only, and I was sent an invite even though I was not combat arms, but did meet some arbitrary age, rank, and GT score criteria. I attended a couple but never felt the urge to try out
Just because there main mission is different doesn't mean there not special forces aka green berets that's like saying a devgru operator isn't seal
@@devinaugurson9347 I think you misunderstood my comment. I never said Delta was not Special Forces, just not Green Berets
Green Berets refers to a graduate of a specific military school. Delta Force operators are not required to go to the Special Forces qualification course. Many Delta operators are ex rangers, and never ever wore a Green Beret. You can't lump all of army Special Forces as Green Berets. Delta stands apart. In my time at Fort Bragg before I retired from active duty, I would drive by the Delta Force compound on my way to my unit headquarters daily. It was an island unto itself with nothing to do with the." Green Berets". You cannot compare Delta & Green Berets to devgru and seals. Devgru is an immediate rung up the ladder from regular seals. There exists no such connection between Delta and regular Green Berets
The CAG comes from both the 75th and SF and from the Airborne.
Those who came from SF wear their green beret. Those who came from the 75th wear their sand beret, and for example, those who came from the 82nd wear their maroon beret.
@@AlexJeroy I know this. My my comment was that the video mistake when he calls tier 1 Green Berets, some Delta operators May wear a Green Beret, but that does not make the unit's a Green Beret unit
@@devinaugurson9347 then again, many soldiers wear the Green Beret just because they're assigned to one of the Green Beret companies, but are not Q qualifier. Q course qualified Green Berets, wear what they called the full flash on their beret, those soldiers only assigned to a Green Beret unit but not Q qualified, wear a much smaller patch on their beret. So, if you can't even trust anyone wearing a green beret to be fully Special Forces qualified, you can see how selective it is to wear the Green Beret
It will be great if you do Psyops vs. ISA, and PJ vs. 24th STS. These 5 videos will complete the full series for SMU
psyops and isa are totally different mission sets.
24th STS comprises PJs and CCTs.
@@AinProds That is the main point for this series, to talk about what are the differences.
Can you do *Army 75 Ranger Regiment* VS *Marsoc Marines?*
Or marine recon
@@emmanuelawosusi2365 wouldn't that be more for RRC vs Marine Recon
@@Nolangames-ep8up army ranger and recon marines similar in tier level
@@emmanuelawosusi2365 lmao you're fucking retarded. Not even close dipshit. Rangers are way more skilled and are literally the only SOCOM unit that is an extension of JSOC. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Lmao. Marsoc is trash. They literally did an FTX recently and conducted a raid with 70 operators to take out a single building with 2 OpForce inside and this is the ratio higher ups felt comfortable with. You think Rangers would be this scared? Hahaha
all I can say is they are awesome and humble guys and I was lucky I could work with them
Damn you're everywhere bro
2:00 my understanding is that the Tier system was devised to categories forces from a fiscal perspective within the US department of defence and so was only meant to aid in funding policies etc.
During deployment we had seals with us. I honestly forgot which one, I wanna say either 3 or 4. Towards the end of deployment something big happened. And guess who came and replaced the seals that were with us? Seal team 6. And our qrf was replaced by 2nd ranger bat
I've never understood the arguments between the 75th Ranger community and the Green Berets when it comes to who has the most representation in CAG. It has been stated many, many times by CAG operators that your previous training is of no use to them. If you pass selection you are started at the basics, including basic marksmanship, so that you are trained up in how Delta does it. Many have stated in interviews that they had to unlearn old training habits to pick up on the new training that Delta gave them. There are too many unanswered questions that need to be answered in order to be able to chest thump for either side. 1) What group had the majority of the participants at selection? If more 75th guys are trying out for selection than GBs, then yeah you would most likely see more 75th in Delta. 2) Of those that attempted selection, what percentage of GB's passed vs 75th rangers passed. 3) We have no written varifiable documentation on the numbers, we do have alot of hearsay. Should we make concrete judgements on hearsay? Both groups (75th, GBs) are American Heros, both have different mission sets. The average age for a Green Beret is 31 years old and the average age for the 75th is 24 years old. So, there is a different level of maturity between the groups. Both are dangerous, both have created awesome warriors, and I would want the both on my side in a fight.
The 70% are Rangers came from General Wayne Downing during a Congressional hearing. I suppose you could still call that hearsay and it was from like 2001 or some shit, but it's probably about as verifiable as you'll ever get. There might be more 75th guys trying. I think the 75th is a harder place to get comfortable and the rank structure lends itself to wanting to move on to a SMU once your E6-7, but there are also over 2x as many GBs running around.
Most of the Rangers are in Delta because that’s where most of the assaulters come from. Delta recruit people from other units for different roles to fill up the squadrons.
@Steve Sherman Rangers have a very high pass rate through SFAS. I’m not sure where you are getting this idea that most Rangers would not pass it. And no, most GBs would not make good Rangers. Some would. Not most for sure.
Thanks!
Tier is for funding designation.. that's it...It has morphed into a thought of "a skill hierarchy"
Another excellent video. Thank you.
I love the content but this is basically two old videos combined I was hoping to hear more about the CIF units and that school with the crazy long name.
Yeah this video is pretty pointless must be running out of ideas
John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School (SWCS); it's a component of the 1st Special Forces Command (Airborne), and it trains personnel from the SF, Civil Affairs, PSYOP, etc, as well as develop new SW tactics, techniques and procedures, and such (based on lessons learned in real life).
Thank you for the upload. Your channel is always interesting
CAG and SF are two entirely different entities, 1 is not the other.
And Delta are NOT green berets, nor ever termed as one.
As stated Delta pulls from everywhere, and nooooo, green Berets do not comprise the bulk of the unit, it is a mixed bag of regular ARMY, Green Berets, Rangers, MARSOC, SEALS, and so on, 1STSFOD is its own thing, Green Berets have their own pipeline, just like Rangers.
Like seal team 6, CAG is the cream of the crop, unlike the SEALS the ARMY recognized that they possess a pool of men who have the potential to be the razors edge of the tip of the spear, but may be in the regular ARMY or any of its other entities and they're smart about who is selected.
Green Berets have tens of thousands of Green Berets in the history of the US ARMY, where as Delta has only selected under 1500, in 45 years!
If a supposed tier1 green beret (delta) undergoes additional training beyond that of a tier2 green beret, doesn’t that inherently make that individual superior (as you stated - more badass)?
Let’s back all the way up, They all are Special Forces. They are all bad ass.
If I remember correctly, delta is a tier 1 unit that can take personnel from all branches. There mission, we probably will never know fully. Like all tier 1 units, theyre almost impossible to know much about. Theres more tier 1 units than we can easily look up and they include some federal policing agencies. Green berets are a strictly army, tier 2 unit. They do mainly training of foreign forces. Highly simplistic explanations but thats what ive been told.
What was the point of your post?
You didn’t share anything new or different from what is in this video..
Delta is not Green Berets. They wear the color of the beret they earned at the time of the selection course. If you were a Ranger, you wore Tan, SF you wear Green, the rest i BELIEVE will get Maroon beret regardless. i went to BNCOC with a few guys that were Delta. they came from Ranger Regiment as lower enlisted and/or E5s and were selected for Delta. unlike SF, whose Q-course counts as BNCOC (or whatever they changed the name of the school to these days), Delta does not have that. so when it is time to promote to E-6, they have to go back to their primary MOS's BNCOC/ALC/whatever course to meet the NCOES requirements for promotion. so, the Ranger/Delta guys had their Tan berets for school (cause beret was the headgear at that time).
i would assume the alternative to going to BNCOC would have been going through Q-course, but that seems like it would be too much time and work for something that you are already beyond, so the easiest way to get back to Delta would be to do regular old BNCOC/ALC/whatever like a normal E-5/E-6, and get back to your team.
Do a Delta Force VS Navy Marching band VS Under 12s Girls Soccer comparison!
Can you do a video about PMCs?
Your content always rocks but I especially enjoy how you integrate your sponsors 😆. Keep up the great stuff, folks!
The question I wanna ask is, what do they gain in being a teir 1 beret? Do they get anything good or they only get to go fight tough enemies?
Good stuff as always!
Thanks!
So a person with a sword and two Lightening Bolts is a Person who was a DELTA OPERATOR who chose to come back and be a SPECIAL FORCES OPERATOR for some reason. I think my Brother was a SGT said it was a couple of Drill SGT s when he became a Drill worn such a Patch . They were retiring on a DRILL cycle like he did 🤷
Your bro lied to you. Sorry, I had to tell you. 🤷♂️
@@gbody2617 so what was they doing then?
i remeber reading a book about delta force in which during OTC there was Green Berets and Rangers. Not sure if this still aplies since the book was in the timeline of the beggining of Delta Force.
Can you do Green Berets vs Rangers?
I've found in any Institution even Special Operations there always has to be a class system. Any 11b can operate. If it's so difficult? Why is there a peer sheet. So the Good Ole boys can control the narrative.
Good thing they captured El Chappo really slowed down the fentanyl thing hahaha
you should make a video about navy AIRR rescue swimmers🙏🏽💪🏽
We saw British SAS can you do other groups in British military
'Don't say Delta Force is more badass than a green beret' Sorry, I respectfully beg to differ :). Nothing against Green Berets, GB's are AWESOME, and Delta is SUPER AWESOME...
You should do a video about the us army criminal investigation division or CID for short
Never heard anyone say "tier one green beret''. You do not have to go through SFAS first to get a shot at CAG selection. Majority of operators that make it there are pulled from regiment
facts, pissed me off when he kept saying "Tier one Green berets" and that most of CAG is Green berets, when most of them are from regiment.
1:32
No they don't cag recruits from every branch
@@Devin183 he said a large portion, not "most". Example being let's say 50% of CAG are Rangers, but 40% are SF and the other 10% are filled in from other branches. Get it now?
Delta is, while primarily manned by Special forces team guys..it is in fact a multi service organization ..
Incorrect
So what you're saying is I need funny goggles (NODs) to upgrade? Lol
Delta does executive protection? That's terrifying if the people in power feel the need to use Tier 1 operators to protect themselves.
They also protect the President mind you.
Schwarzkopf used Delta as bodyguards.
Can you do an army's 28th eod company, please
Please do one on special operations support personnel
SEALs vs SBS next?
DEVGRU vs SBS would be the correct comparison, not vanilla seals, theyre more on the level of the Royal Marine Commandos albeit probably just slightly better
There's no "tier 1 Green Beret" and "tier 2 Green Berets". You're either Green Beret or not.
The Delta unit, later on named Combat Applications Group (CAG) or Army Compartmented Element (ACE), goes in and kills someone or destroys something or whatever and gets out. The Green Berets can do that and more. The Green Berets can stay behind.
Great video
Many put too much emphasis on the differences and the tiering system, the vast overwhelming majority of ODA and CAG are where they want to be and more importantly, where they belong. Two completely different set of directives, mission mandates etc., though overlap where it matters the most forward, one team, one fight.🇺🇸
Can yall do a video on the difference between marine and army infantry
Can you go over Navy Submariners vs other Navy communities?
Did you do the audio with a Home Alone Talkboy? "Credit Card? You Got it."
Get we get a video on the US ARMY Calvary units
Can you do ISA vs the British SRR?
Lol They’re the same thing. The SRR was literally molded off the ISA in 2005. It’s like comparing the SAS and Delta Force, same animal different accent lol
@@joesgotya9930 I know they are based on the ISA, that's why I choose them. Even with that there are usually going to be at least some minor differences.
The “tier” is a funding system. At its simplest, the amount of money available per solider.
The comment in this video that Green Berets don’t use translators in the field is incorrect - In Iraq, they were embedded w/us and often went outside the wire w/ the teams. In Iraq, we called them “TERPS” - short for interpreters.
Can you do some videos on uk units?
Which ones would you like to see?
I'm not the original poster but I like to see the same video. Maybe SBS, since you probably haven't done it yet.
British pathfinders and special forces support would be very cool they are highly trained.
I know they do direct action, hostage rescue home defence against terrorism within the uk, direct support for tirr 1 units, reconnaissance, training foreign militaries etc.
Can you do a Tier 2 Special Tactics Operatir vs a Tier 1 Special Tactics Operator?
Maybe I've missed it, do you have a Navy Seal vs DevGru video?
Yes we do!
can you do a viedo about elite marine Angelico's please
Brother I always wondered What if British SAS faces US Army's Delta Force in battle under different combat situations
They never will
You do understand that they are basically integrated right? US/UK/AUS/NZ/CAN so that will never happen. It goes beyond NATO.
Besides the fact that their countries are allies and have a long-lasting historical bond (thus preventing such a scenario from happening), and the fact that such ponderings are too superficial (e.g.: what KIND of battle/engagement? One defending and one attacking? A double-assault on a target? A direct engagement, or an asymmetrical one? etc, and so on), one must understand that different units, and from different countries, will have different needs and priorities (and thus, different types of support, different doctrinal orientation/specialty, and so forth).
For instance, the 22 SAS Rgt has slightly more Operators in its ranks than "Delta" (256+ against 224+), and the SAS 'Sabre' Squadrons are organized into four Troops (Air, Boat, Mobility & Mountain), whereas "Delta's" Assault Squadrons are organized into three Troops (2x Assault Troops, + 1x Reconnaissance & Sniper Troop); but on the other hand, "Delta" has a dedicated aviation Squadron, while the SAS relies on dedicated Army and RAF helicopter units that support it, and JSOC just has far more resources and assets (its own and the USSOCOM's) at its disposal than the UKSF to better arm, equip, train and support its operational components.
Either one of the two could beat the other, if the scenario in question was in their favor, somehow; if the conditions and circumstances were just right; if one had the advantage of having the initiative first, and/or volume of force; etc...
@@gabrielcabral1665 It's just curiosity besides you never know what's in our future hopefully we will be ok
@@Ry43deck How could you know? You don’t know what will or can happen on the next 100, 300 or 500 years.
Great video can you make a video on how All American special forces stack up to other countries special forces .
Can you also do 82d airborne infantrymen in Delta?
3 words into the video and you’re already wrong about something. That’s a new record.
Man for April 1st you should have done a video on the Ghosts from ghost recon 😂.
id like to think of it as, if tier 1 cannot resolve the customer's issues, they transfer the call to tier 2
a tier 1 green beret is a green beret that is in a smu. being in the unit doesnt make u a green beret.2 different paths. if a ranger or marine gets into delta that doesnt make them green berets. also u dont have to be a green beret to be in delta,guys that do that are doing so to change their mos because its faster and easier if ur sf. plenty of dudes from82nd and regular old big army get in to delta all the time. they arent looking for the best guy,theyre looking for the right guy.
You are right. The way I understand it SMU is open to the other branches as well. Correct me on that if I am wrong.
@@davidhelfrich2511 you don't need to say SMU, just say Delta. But no you are not wrong, it is open to anyone in the military
@@davidhelfrich2511, only "Delta" recruits from all branches; the ISA only recruits from the Army, the RRC only recruits from within the 75th Ranger Regiment, and "DEVGRU" only recruits from within the Naval Special Warfare (SeAL & SBT/SWCC) community - and all are SMUs; not just "Delta".
where did you get the clip for the video at 9:05
Tier 2: Special Forces
Tier 1: Not technically "officially" recognized by the US Government. They're shadows.
what is the diff between conflict and war??
I wonder how Soar reacts when they see their patch used to represent Delta.
The 160th SOAR(A) no longer wears the USASOC Patch…They wear the ARSOAC Patch now…
Could you do a video on Irish Army Ranger Wing?
You know, expand outward to world military knowledge. If you think there’s still plenty of American stuff to talk about that’s fine, but it seems like that well has run dry.
Maybe when they sober up.
I thought Chuck Norris Delta Force is tear 1 same as DEVGRU 4 Navy.
Not John Wayne vietnam Green Beret.
10/10 ❤ This video.
Although "Delta Force" was originally created from within the U.S. Army Special Forces community by SF Colonel Charles A. Beckwith - and despite its original, [non-]"official" designation being 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-DELTA (Airborne), for disinformation -, "Delta" IS NOT, and NEVER WAS a component of the Special Forces branch; "Delta" is an independent organization within the Army (much like the 75th Ranger Regiment, for instance).
"Delta" does not have a specific beret or a cap badge/beret flash of its own, and its members wear the beret of their previous unit/branch of the Army, with the USASOC seal/DUI in place of a cap badge/beret flash.
"Delta" members don't have to originate from the SF ("Delta" recruits from the whole Army; the whole of the armed forces, actually), and their selection and training pipeline are separate and completely different - for SF, candidates go through SFAS, then the SFQC; for "Delta", they go through their selection phase, then undertake the OTC (with no requirement of being SF qualified, or whatever).
Also, the SF branch at large wasn't "Tier 2" (the "Tier" system is no longer in use); only the SF "Commander's 'In-Extremis' Force"/"Crisis Response Force" (CIF/CRF) Companies were "Tier 2", as supporting elements to JSOC (on a need basis; not regular) - but these were deactivated; now they've come up with... "Hard Target Defeat" (HTD) Companies in their place, if I'm not mistaken (go figure)...
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The number means everything
While tier 2 is more diverse, featuring the bare minimum of SOF and the candidacy for Tier 1
The average tier 2 is cheap fodder compared to the average tier 1
SOF go hard but sadly the majority of Tier 2s are not That Hard
There’s scaling for each and every SOF of where their population statistics align on the spectrum
Such as how their entries, moderates, veterans and superiors tend to perform on such spectrum
This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t think of why specifically they exist
It’s just an invaluable standard of measuring the character of a SOF’s members
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Fire watch SOI, tactically acquiring MRE's since 1776.. Semper Fi
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I thought it was true that not all Delta Force operators are Green Berets and that Delta force will pull from special force operators from the other branches as well? I feel that should have been mentioned.
This is correct, and there has actually been a DEVGRU Seal come over to CAG after a break in service.
As for the “Tier 1 Green Beret” thing…. It’s a crap title. 60%-70% of CAG comes from the 75th Ranger Regiment and when they move over to CAG, they keep their TAN berets.
So the majority of CAG doesn’t even wear a green beret.
The difference is that the Rangers among other special forces strive to be Delta
Tier one stacks bodies, tier, 2 stacks countries.That's what I would assume.That's right.What I said
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As far as i know they didn't capture Saddam Hussein. A group of marines did.
It was Delta Force as well as soldiers from the Army's 4th Infantry Division. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Saddam_Hussein
Actually, something is terribly wrong if you see delta force in person.