Everything after Season 1 was what might have happened if Leonardo da Vinci had left the _Mona Lisa_ unattended and his six-year-old nephew had "carried on" with it.
@@fegeleinherman8587 it's all subjective, so I have no clue. Maybe he's talking about how it's too famous for seemingly no reason? Though I'd argue that's not true.
@@Mike14264 except that no one in history could have done that painting without knowing it had existed first and drawing inspiration from it. It really is a masterpiece of a painting
I watched season 2 when I got HBO for a month to finish season 8 of Game of Thrones. Could only watch 1 episode a day since my sanity can only take so much lol. I bought season 1 on Vudu and tell people the show ended with 1 season lol. Like episodes 7-9 I prefer to say season 2 and 3 of this show aren't canon
What they did with many original characters (either character development or arbitrary changes to what they are like) and what they did to them in the story was very disappointing.
I thought it was a believable arc. I'm going off IIRC since it's a few months since I binge consumed all 3 seasons but the Man in Black's impossible love leading to his nihilistic power fantasy trolling of the fake world was ample setup for his downfall. Even if it was predictable in theory if not in the reality of the BS gun misfire thing and the gaslighting therapy dream and all that
Honestly to an extend i can get behind that and it even makes sense. Even in Season one he is just dangerous, because he literally has all the cheatcodes on. Which is something, that kinda bothered me about him from the first time i watched the show. He stands in the middle of a field gets shot from all sides and just takes his time to kill everyone because he is invulnerable and gets his dick sucked by the park management, because he is the one that owns it all. I kinda think a "be carefull what you whish for"-twist, as he realises that years of playing a game in the easiest difficulty, doesnt at all prepare him for the real deal, is a absolute deserved story arch for him. Yet however the same absolutely can not be said about all the other male characters.
This is horrifying. I remember being so bored and frustrated by Season 2 that I stopped watching the show altogether. I didn't even know they made a Season 3. And now I never have to force myself to sit through it out of some sense of nostalgia for Season 1. Thank you for that.
see man. for me I started to think that it's ok to watch one good season of a show but not drag yourself to watch shitty 2nd,3rd..etc seasons. and for the rest of the story, I can find 10 minutes seasons summary here on RUclips. because life is short and...time is money...etc etc etc
Exactly my case, I never watched S3, not that I wasnt tempted to. I actively avoided all critics, ratings, summaries etc in case I would find a strenght to watch it at some point. Then I discovered drinker, thank you.
Yeah I stopped that season too, I think I ended up skimming three episodes and just stopped watching. It was strange but just skimming through a couple of eps were enough to tell me that it sucks. .
Westworld season one was so brilliant man, I don't understand how it lead to this. Did the writers change? Did the producers change? What went wrong? Such a shame, Im probably not going to watch season four. Why would I? This isn't what I signed up for, this is no longer 'Westworld'.
I thought the same thing. Season 1 had so much potential. I found myself wondering how they would justify Deloris killing Anthony Hopkins character. How could she recover her soul after that? Guess she didn't. Season 2 was a mish mash of hoping something good comes out of it. I couldn't force myself to watch Season 3 and I'm grateful the Drinker did so I don't have to!
The funny thing is, the main characters are asexual, they are not females, its like a avatar has a certain skin over it. They're Robots with AI, in the park they were implemented with some kind of backstory which reflected human role models in certain times, sure they had male or female body parts, but the important thing was, they developed conscience and true AI with respect to old and new philosophical questions what a human being or what intelligence really is. That's what I don't understand, are the intelligent writers gone, or did they just imitate all that with clever dialogues? Its kind of really really stupid to re-interpret the whole backstory to now 'female' robots, its just f'ed up, why would they limit themselves to a human gender which they don't have? They have no reproductive organs, their reproductive organs are their brains, they can multiply limitless. That all makes it just unbelievable stupid. I want to shout at the writers for the stupidity... The first season was so great...
Honestly, it was a limited life idea. Even the Westworld films that inspired the series didn't know exactly where to go with it except new-theme world in sequel movies. Sometimes a good one shot idea is a good one shot idea. It had one good season in it's pocket and then crumbled trying to one-up itself.
One of the reasons I liked the first season is that it posed the question of "what does it means to be human" you see the hosts emote and "feel" but as a human you could never be sure whether you can accept them as alive. And even by the end of s1 you could easily walk out with either conclusion. And then s2 completely abandons that and stares "no, they're real live humans". S1 felt like a slow burn calm conversation, Ford's monologues being really fun and interesting to listen. I barely sat through s2, everything felt loud and convenient, with Dolores it felt like someone took her control panel and maxed her out at aggressive and irrational, making her completely unsympathetic. But we have to have "girl boss"
I'm pretty sure someone DID max out her aggressiveness on her control panel. She is a host after all. And supposed to lead a revolution. I didn't like the third season either and the second was alright enough and I don't understand why everyone is throwing these "woke" and "girl boss" buzzwords around because that's not what I got from it at all. They just missed the elegance of the first season and what made it interesting. The whole Action packed marvel esque fighting scenes were all awful no matter what gender the person who fought had. They completely went overboard with the action in general and obviously Maeve, Dolores and Charlotte would be in the center of it. Marve and Dolores have been protagonists from day one and if the fighting goes up obviously our main characters will have more fight scenes.
Isn't she the one who decided the correct response to Kevin Sorbo stating that the Jan 6th protest had Antifa in it was to immediately falsely accuse him of assaulting her on the Andromeda set?
She is always cast as the same character. Strong black female who has to overcome and surpass the stronger white male. (MIB, THOR, Etc.) The only thing she's done where that wasn't the case was Creed. But even in that she was the Strong black female who has to overcome an obstacle and be "stronger" than the male. If she ever made a movie where that wasn't the case I'd be surprised and would watch it for that alone.
why are people so obsessed with the series remaining in the park!? even in the first season, its the world OUTSIDE that I was more intrigued about as opposed to the park itself. the wild west is such a tired, tedious setting, its the sci fi aspect that I found most interesting
@@supremeworld87 except that this Is how It was in the book and the main premise. And again, something that wasn't suitable for a series, like your comment proves.
@@Zontar82 in the book it's still a fucking sci fi story. It's about androids ffs. The possibilities of what that would mean to the outside world more than warrants a series. It was never a period story about the wild west
@@supremeworld87 You have not read the book haven't you...you can have androids and still being western themed without having an entire series outside the park doing shits for no fucking reasons at all..."FFS", am i right, this is how it is written in your zoomer/millenial lingo?
That last episode of the first season, the final speech by Antony Hopkins, was so great. Although in hindsight the ridiculous action sequence of with bullet proof hosts massacring the innocent scientists and dumb security guards was the canary in the coal mine. They took that as the template for the future, instead of the good parts.
Caleb "How do you know my every move?" Dolores "I read your Forge data so I can predict you." Caleb "Why did you choose me to lead the revolution?" Dolores "You defy the data and are unpredictable." Me "Drinker, another round please."
@Theant19 considering the whole of seasons one talks about the rape and murders of Dolores kind of strange that its suddenly an sjw ploy in the 3rd season...
@@captainzero1 but she also predicted him enough all season long for him to need to ask that question, while simultaneously choosing him for his capacity for free will. It doesnt add up. Also, hes special because hes apparently the only human who didnt tap some robot booty? "Free will exists its just really hard" feels like a childs parody of Westworld S1 discussion on conciousness and free will and choice, s3 undermines that just like Williams character is undermined.
This series should have ended at the end of season 1. It’s one of the most intelligent and exciting shows I have ever seen and then it goes way off the rails in season 2 & 3…
I totally forgot there was even a West World Season 3 and this is coming from someone that thought Season 1 was genius. Its crazy how HBO can take something that is a cultural phenomenon and then completely run it into the ground in just half a season
" and this is coming from someone that thought Season 1 was genius" Because season 1 was that good. Season 2....well, I saw the writing on the wall in that one.It was rapidly going downhill. Didn't even bothered with season 3.
Remeber staw wars grinded to a halt with the last jedi qnd a Game of trhone was The shit with a shiton of spin offs planed before they made the final seasnon. The moral is dont mather how big a ip is it all can be ruinined if someone fuck up something important har enought.
I was blown away with Season 1, and thought it was one of the best shows I'd ever seen. Then, after the first two or three episodes of Season 2, I just gave up. I haven't watched it beyond that, and just enjoy watching The Drinker rip the shit show that used to be a great show a huge, gaping new one.
I thought the characters were horribly written in season 1 too. I didn't care about any of those people. I certainly wasn't going to care about any of the toasters. I'm not going to care about an AI that is impersonating a human. Might as well feel sorry for your dishwasher.
@@sammary5199 Because it matters what the actor or actress looks like, when you are not watching porn? When the main question in casting is does the person actually fit in to the part they are playing, are they believable enough to play the character they are representing in the story. Personally I do not watch movies to get aroused by how the characters look. Apparently that is important to you. Some roles require young and beautiful characters to work, some roles need older and more weathered faces. If Gérard Depardieu can pull a good character that fits the role and the plot I can enjoy it even though he might look like Gérard Depardieu. Not even a good actors can save a shitty script, just like even if you put all the best ingredients in your meal, that does you little good if you burn it. If actor is there to save e.g. movie with their performance, it's a trash movie.
@@tubetorpedo Fair point, you adressed the part where I said she looked like a lesbo, what about the fact that not even her acting saved Aliens 3 and 4?
The whole idiotic "control bad, freedom good" thing is what infuriated me the most. Dolores, a tool who outlived its purpose, simply keeps doing what she was built for: destroy systems. Caleb is a tool of a tool, completely obedient, conditioned and indoctrinated. And then they destroy the one thing that kept the world from falling apart... Because reasons. The chaos in the last minutes of the final episode likely already took more lives than that computer sacrificed in the name of stability over the entire time it operated. Everything's just so stupid all the time. And they just can't fucking get over Tessa Thompson. She keeps dying and getting resurrected in different forms, it's just annoying by now. If season 4 is ever out, you can bet your ass she's gonna survive it with some techno-bullshit shenanigans the screenwriters will use to justify it.
Westworld is dystopia .. Westworld is about machine learning and becoming human. Season one and 2 was all about that ... Each time humans goes to the park, the machine learns the ways of man ,the algorithms keep getting better , humans in the park were actually the experiment not the machine ,just like the way Google voice Ai algorithms learns from you and I the moment any video is posted on RUclips, google voice to text was terrible when it started ,but the Ai kept learning as more people start posting video on RUclips, discerning between voice and accent,now Google live caption is close to perfect. Westworld season one and 2 was all about that . Season 3 was the entrance into the real world .a I taking over. A fight between machine with consciousness ( Deloris) and machine created by man with human Aaron Paul between who realised all his life events were already pre determined before it happens by a.i algorithms .you have to understand books like a brave New world by Aldous Huxley and George Orwell 1984 before you can really understand the concept behind it . It is dystopia .
@@princeofrock8178 tv shows don't expect people to have an understanding of certain books before be able to enjoy their shows. The fans that Westworld picked up after season 1, in general, have a good understanding of themes and concepts from those books you mentioned. Seems to me that you just can't see how much the quality of writing has dropped...probably because your young and pretentious. Basically, you like the smell of your own farts too much, still.
More Mary Sue's than Charlie's Angels! That is impressive! Especially given that Charlie must be a misogynistic racist! Maybe they can keep him in the series by just writing him gay instead 🤔 🤦♂️
As the saying goes “no one is perfect.” And when you have Mary Sue robots that are written to be perfect well...the audience can’t relate. Take note Rian Johnson
People literally don't even know what Mary sue means anymore, they just throw the term around whenever there's powerful female characters. All the female characters in this show have flaws, none of them are perfect by any means
I enjoyed the original 1973 movie. A movie about a single fantasy theme park, inhabited by robots, which malfunction and turn on the clients, and the escape from this theme park. I struggle to see how they can pad out that theme over multiple series.
I watched WW season 1 five times almost back to back.. s2 and 3, only once. How does such a 10/10 show plummet like that!?!?! Did they change the writers??
Headline from Variety: *‘Westworld’ Season 3 Premieres Down 57% From Last Season* FIFTY. SEVEN. PERCENT. DROP for the premiere. I imagine the viewership declined even further over the course of the season. They keep killing these shows, how can they not see pattern??
I know right? It's very suprising that in a world usually ruled by raw, unfettered greed and pragmatism that so many investors are willing to damage their own bottom line in order to push this agenda. One almost has to wonder if somehow they are making more money this way, though I can't imagine how.
Season 1 was brilliant...every episode had a genuine "holy crap I did not see that coming" moment. I tried to convince everyone I knew to watch it because I HAD to have someone to talk about it with. Everyone who ended up watching it thought it was amazing.
You mean when it had TnA for miles and miles, along with the male viewers subconscious hopes of achieving such interactive robotic pleasure??? Yeah, #metoo. (get it? ...god, I hate feminazism....)
Seasons was really well done, leaving you always wanting mire, I felt the show peaked in season 1, I couldn't see how they can take it any further, they set the bar for themselves really high. Usually when you set the bar really high it is very hard to meet it which they tried from the looks of it, but fell short compared to season 1 which is predictable given how well it was done. The lesson is don't start out too strong, give yourself room for improvement.
Is anybody else furious how the show treated William in its third season. He definitely wasn’t a good person but he was amazing antagonist/antihero. That really made you wonder if Westworld was a real place how many of us would play the game just like him. But he was given a dumb and unsatisfied conclusion.
After season 1 ended, I figured I’d wait until season 2 was done so I could binge it. Turns out I never got around to doing that and my life is better for it.
And If I respond in any talkback and forums for the next couple of hours, I start to express myself like the Drinker and people thinks I'm nuts and hilarious. And then reality sets in and I realise I'm not diverse and brave.
You're completely right about the male and female characters comparison. And it's especially egregious what they did to William. I must admit, the third season was more entertaining than I anticipated, but only if you watched it without expecting much.
Wait for real? My godness. I don't know how to feel. Bad because that clusterfuck get another season or good because our friend will give us another hilarious review.
So instead of focusing on the morality of fantasy worlds populated by robots that cater to your every whim, they send the robots out into the real, boring ass world to conduct corporate espionage that we've seen a million times? What an utter waste of the premise.
Hard to expect anything else, considering the lack of talent in the industry. However, I will not deny that I had big hopes for season 2. I assumed Nolan was still leading the project, he seemed like a talented guy... But ever since "shogun world" kicked in, this series died.
How was the outside world boring? Since season 1 I always wondered what the outside world looked like. All the technological stuff I saw in the park it made me wonder if the outside world was more advanced. And after seeing it in season 3, I wasn't disappointed.
@@eden20111 Typical and boring sci-fi dude, there's so many products depicting similar themes. High tech city, who cares? Super played out. Now, a themed park featuring androids who are going through a personal journey of discovery and self-conscience? Now that's a more interesting concept, also more creative. If you want to experiment a high tech city, then let's wait until september to play the cyberpunk 2077 game and see what they have to offer. Instead of watching a stereotypical sleek and clean future city featuring bland androids walking by.
darkpandatv honestly man I think you missed the point. The whole idea season three is getting at is that the Hosts that “woke up” are now trying to show humanity that in many ways, they are the same as hosts that are still “asleep”. Did they execute this idea perfectly? No not really. But it also wasn’t utter garbage like GoT season 8
The first season was one of the best TV shows I have ever watched! As for season two, I couldn't force myself to complete it. Finally, I had no idea season three was even a thing.
Maeve has been a focus of the series since season 1. Dolores the character with the actual most focus is white. Ford, MIB, Bernard are the other characters with more focus, they are men, and 2 of them are white. Do you have to complain about everything? Did they ever mentioned racism in this show? Did they ever said MEN were shit on this show? As far as I'm concerned this is Humans vs Robots, not MEN vs WOMEN. I swear every fucking anti-SJW has become so anti-feminist that they will classify any and all series with female character leaders as SJW propaganda.
@Dri Ven yeah, that's what baffles me! Hollywood not wanting feedback on their products despite many hating on them; critics and some random morons shunning producers that do get feedback from fans and change some of the movie, even though it's a franchise movie and the change was to appeal to the franchise's fans; trying to do equality of genders, races and everything else, basically trying to be woke, but ending up removing the characters' personalities and sending an equally toxic message, essentially getting broke; keeping on hiring the same garbage directors who are unliked by many and haven't done even a decent movie in a long while; sticking to the same basic, safe, formulaic crap so much that almost every movie looks and feels the same... Hollywood should be losing money with all of these crap, moronic, brainlet decisions! SO WHY HASN'T THAT HAPPENED YET?!
It's funny that the two female leads were more human and likable when they had no conscience. When they were just machines repeating the same pattern. Now that they got a full grasp of what they are, that they are trully alive, they behave just like terminators.
3:23 That's not a white male though! That's a mediterranean frenchman. Southern french are racially mediterranean just like italians and most of southern europe. The northern france is the white france
@@FriendlyCroock mediterranean people are closer to northern Europeans genetically than African Americans are to actual Africans, yet both African Americans and actual Africans are considered black. likewise most people consider Mediterranean white.
Deloris is probably the most uninteresting lead character that I've seen in years. Maeve was interesting but I stopped giving a crap when she got God mode activated
Completely disagree. Dolores is one of my favorite tv characters now. Her journey in season 1 was fascinating, and she's had interesting character development
@@shuyuwang6122 Did you even watch this season? Her mission the entire time was to set the world free by destroying rehoboam. The world might get destroyed in the process, but free will for everyone was her goal, she wanted to take down the system the world was built on
Because waifus are some kind of targeted audience by beauty and low personality build up. They usually are meant as a quasi sexual objectification by a weeb audience.
I really miss the park, the show sorta lost it’s identity when they exaped the park and now we have some sci fi cyberpunk crap instead. And delores is just evil for the sake of it now.
Season three was a completely different show with a plot snatched out of thin air. It has zero connection to the previous shows and could have been created without any existence of "Westworld" with some simple story changes. It was like the showrunners said "Fuck it, I don't want to write about Westworld, I want some other show!"
I think the show lost its way when it clearly started to "take sides". Maybe they always were that way behind the scenes with the writing, but for most of the first season it really seemed like no one was supposed to be "in the right", the robots as homicidal "saviors" and the entire narrative forcing that really doesn't work for me, but it's a popular trope in recent years it seems so maybe I just am not nihilistic enough to understand how Hollywood producers think.
Are you on drugs? Dolores isn't evil for the sake of anything she's not even evil period. Her motives have been consistent since the first episode and make perfect sense given what she's been through
It's no wonder that the show went down the tubes. A quick look into the writing team on IMDB shows that the writers of the first season weren't really the same as the following seasons with the exception of a few names. Without wanting to point any fingers, I searched some of the names that joined the writing team after the first season and found this video → ruclips.net/video/uQEcaOxzbjo/видео.html&ab_channel=HBO There's a pretty interesting quote at about 41 secods in... "I never thought I'd be on a show this massive this soon in my career..." ...it's almost as if there was something other than writing experience being inserted into the selection criteria for new hires.
I mean, who thought this was a good idea: "Oh yeah, people seemed to love the theme park, the blood & gore without consequences, incredible action, the mysterious man in black and maybe the labyrinth stuff. Let's absolutely cut all of this stuff out & make this a boring mess about shareholders with a ridiculous feminist subtone (while the hosts are actually robots, not women, you know...). EVERYBODY MUST LOVE THAT, RIGHT?"
So are human beings. That's the point of Westworld to see yourself through the actions of artificial intelligence. It's a mirror towards humanity. You have to live your loop which is one of many trappings in this 3rd dimension.
Talking about Halley Gross ? Cause she only co-wrote 2 episodes of the first season. As far as I know, she didn't do anything on the second and third season.
Classic case of making an uninformed comment, taking information out of relevant context. The writer you mentioned had no involvement in the production of seasons 2 or 3. If anything, you made a case FOR TLOU 2, since Westworld 1 is universally regarded as excellent. Nonetheless, someone who finishes his nonsensical claim with "XD" should not have been watching Westworld 1 or playing TLOU 2 in the first place.
I watched the first season of this show and really enjoyed it. What I'm shocked to find out now is that by season 3 they've already made it out of the simulation completely and are running around in the real world. Like, they could have made Westworld into a version of Lost or something where it's damn near impossible to get out of the place and they have to spend years trying to figure out what's really going on. How do you screw up a plot direction that's so painfully obvious?
I don't mind the transition to real world, but it was too sudden and too quick. It took them 2 seasons to destroy the simulation, but just 1 or 2 episodes to navigate flawlessly into the real word...
@nasolem Don't worry you can have your own opinion, just because that other guy says season 5 was "literal dog shit" doesn't mean you have to agree with him. Now in my opinion season 7 was the real downfall, season 5 and 6 was lacking compared to the previous ones but I loved them when I first watched them.
Yep. I got through season 1 largely based on the non-stop hype i was surrounded by. One of those things where you're waiting for the greatness that everyone talks about to reveal itself to you. Ep 1 of season 2 i was out after the first 10 minutes. The dialogue was so trash i just couldn't get past it. Astonishing how this stuff gets passed off on such large numbers of people.
I can only assume that there is a huge tranche of people out there that get completely consumed by the sunk cost fallacy. They're so invested in the story at that point that not only do they have to keep watching to find out how it ends, but persuade themselves that *because* they are still watching then it *must* be good. Personally I tuned out of Westworld halfway through s2 - I realised that I didn't care how it ended. Similarly I watched episodes 7 & (perhaps optimistically) 8 of Star Wars but have never watched the supposed finale of what is nominally a franchise that I absolutely loved because I just don't care anymore.
@@tenacioustubbs8358 ha! Yeah same. I've actually been fascinated for years at the cognitive dissonance that star wars seems to inspire. I too grew up on the originals. Everything since barely met the standards of a decent film, much less carrying forward a classic. The Star Wars sequels and reboots is the exemplar of an entire industry in collapse.
The seasons after season one just makes season one even greater. I'm just astonished at how good season one was. Makes you respect Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris even more
Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins were both in S2, that didn't stop season 2 from being awful. Evan Rachel Wood is also a pretty good actor, you just don't want to admit it because this season was also not the best and she was the main protagonist in it.
Even with good writting it would suck... AI vs humans. AI revolting Oh how original... Westworld season 4 will start with Felix waking up and getting a phone call by "Marius" telling him how he is the one... Westworld season 5 will be in space featuring a computer named P.A.L telling some astronaut : "I am sorry Dave I am afraid I can't do that" It seems writters have chosen the wrong movie to tell the story they want to tell + shitty writting + SJW crap = disaster.
@@greatdude7279 I wish they'd do a season 3.5, where they apologise for duping us into believing this show was aiming for great things. (That's what happens when one of the Nolan siblings does anything; they even ruined Batman--how could you further ruin Batman? Oh, by taking any sense of escapism out of the concept, and keeping it REAL, yawn).
@@markpaterson2053 The silliest thing is that hollywood and its actors are the ones pushing Feminism, Social Justice etc... Yeah I am pretty sure Harvey Weinstein's pals will educate us regular peasents on the importance on not raping or abusing women... yeah... If they want to talk politics and issues like that then they should actually practice what they preach. People who voted Biden are not anti-racism, pro-feminism, anti-capitalist etc... The guy made a career out of blowing brown people in the Middle East for corporate profit and funded far right extremist groups that are anti-women and anti-gay like the governments in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Pakistan etc... Thats the flaw of SJW ideologies not only are ideologies stupid but the people pushing it don't even come close to actually living up to the ideals.
@@greatdude7279 The upshot of your point (or the downside) is they've got nothing better to do. They don't grasp politics anymore (who does?) so they band together like idiots and go on this juvenile campaign, pseudo-political agendas that have NOTHING to say, their only power is to ruin entertainment.
Thank you for saving me the time of watching this bollocks, I struggled through Season 2 there and got halfway through season 3 episode one and you have successfully convinced me that the rest isn't worth watching.
After he finished the last episode of season 3, my husband told me “I think I’m done with Westworld. What a waste of time.” It’s been a disappointing few years for us in terms of movies and tv shows.
When it becomes so predictable then what's the point? They ran out of the original creative source material to copy and are not creative writers themselves so it devolved into what every other show is now... A preachy PSA with bland, undeveloped and/or completely unlikeable characters.
@@disbeafakename167 Suprised another white american thinking people give a fuck about how he feels. It's truly ironic how the anti-sjws become the snowflakes. This show is just a regular show not a feminist show.
after a few years of watching the drinker, I think there is only one moral to his story: Drinker's kidneys: you have to stop. Drinker: Nah, it will be fine.
It's so frustrating when a good series with a fantastic premise just sinks into a fart of it's original idea. Altered Carbon did this too. Makes it very hard to trust anything to keep the momentum.
Altered carbon season 1 blew me away, watched it in 2 days. Haven't watched season 2 because I hear it feels like Mackie wasn't even playing the same character. Such a shame
@@PinkPanther69 yeah season 2 was shit,felt like he played a completely different charackter. and mackie doesnt have any charisma what so ever but thats just my opinion
@@kalleroseworld1919 Very unfortunate. Since then I discovered a show called "Dark" on Netflix. Entire 3 seasons were mapped out before creation. Without spoiling much it does time travel really well. If you like slow films with beautiful cinematography then you'll love it. Also... it's in German, can be a a turnoff for many but if foreign films don't bother you I would highly recommend. Cheers dude.
@@PinkPanther69 dark is freaking awesome,one of the very few german shows i actually liked as a german myself haha u should have a look at the first season of true detective if u havent seen it yet
This show should have heeded the words of Dr. Ford from its first season: "It’s not about giving the guests what you think they want. No, that’s simple. The titillation, horror, elation… They’re parlor tricks. The guests don’t return for the obvious things we do, the garish things. They come back because of the subtleties, the details. They come back because they discover something they imagine no on had ever noticed before, something they’ve fallen in love with. They’re not looking for a story that tells them who they are. They already know who they are. They’re here because they want a glimpse of who they could be."
Well that's not with the show runners had in mind didn't want to give you a simple-minded rabbit brain mass killings and sex every 5 minutes. They wanted you to think
I love the fact most subtitles from the actual scenes are non-English, hinting how much he payed to see them. Which conveys more subtle message than season 3 and 4 combined.
Yeah, of course. They prolly don't even like Michael Crichton's work let alone respect it. I wonder which writer/"creator"/producer is more at fault here, Jonathan Nolan or his wife Lisa Joy?
This is what I like to call the Promised Neverland effect. The creators take years to create and perfect the first arc. Then when the show is actually successful they will ride high with a bit of hype and then be unable to deliver on the hype and will have disappointing subsequent arcs and/or endings.
This is what happens when you stretch a mini-series premise into 3 seasons of TV show. It's the same case as with The Handmaid's Tale. I figured out that the writers have no idea how to write this kind of story when S2 ended and didn't even bother with S3. The entire plot is nonsense, and life's too short to watch a show that doesn't even know what is it about.
@@mrdean2539 BS:G had other problem - the writers made shit up as they went along, there was never any plan for anything. Even the names of the Final 5 were chosen at random among the remaining cast. I quite liked it, even the ending, but you could see nobody on the writing team had any idea where the show was going.
I was not happy with the trajectory of the female characters in this series. Dolores is extremely irritating and a real Mary Sue. She basically never loses a fight, she has no weaknesses, she was made to be the "badass girl" without any feelings. I loved the character from the first season, because she had nuances, she was a good character, well built. Now ... she's just another "strong" and generic female character. Maeve was amazing on s1, but what does she still do on the show? She has no more stories to tell. Charlotte had potential, I really thought she could side with humans and disconnect from Dolores. It would be interesting, because I am very tired of seeing machines always being seen as enemies and not as allies. Then came the plot of her family's death and I thought "shit, now she will want revenge". And yes, it really happened. Predictable. I wanted a new approach and, unfortunately, it didn't happen.
Jeffrey Wright, one the best and most inexplicably underrated actors working is totally wasted the entire season. I just wonder if he ever felt genuinely bored, pondering, "How the hell can I get out my 5 year contract?"
Remember when Anthony Hopkins was in this show? It was so good, especially the first season. This one sounds like not nearly enough Bernard, and Man in Black, and too much Dolores, and the guy from breaking bad.
He will always be the guy from breaking bad...how would you like to live with that. Your life has been defined for you and there is nothing you can do about it.
Antony was the only thing keeping the show together. He's like Johnny Depp as Captain Jack in POTC. Most ppl only care about POTC cuz of Jack and a lot of people only cared about Westworld due to Ford.
As much as I liked Breaking Bad, Aaron Paul just isn't a good actor. He put ZERO effort into this role. He's flat, boring and downright sad the way he follows Delores around like a puppy dog. As an actor, I would have questioned the script and asked: Are you serious?
@@goofyfoot2001 thats because hes not a great actor, he was literally cast for breaking bad because he looks like the kind of guy you'll believe does meth
And even he has officially gone on record "carefully" by saying they've effectively made the "man in black" character awful. They've taken away his mysteriousness and what his character basically was.
The first season is a masterpiece. It’s a shame they decided to reboot it for more seasons, the ending of The Bicameral Mind was a perfect end to the narrative
For someone that hates the show, you have watched every single detail of it and know all the plot and twists and turns. Fascinating! Any other shows you hate, because you have detailed analysis of everything in this show and know you would explain another one in great detail! Show that I don't like I stop watching🤣
Westworld ended with the Season 1 with the robots rebelling, and that's where the original movie started. Everything else is just a VR simulation scenario that's being run on the robots called "Justice World" that was going to get scrapped because it wasn't realistic enough.
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To be fair, most good series are only good up through the second season.
were is the plot west world
carlos Rivas looks like somebody has some issues with a honest opinion, and if you dont like than just call him out in a video.
fish mooney from Gotham was a New character that i realy liked doloriss and bre larson have less personality the plank from ed,edd,and eddy
Everything after Season 1 was what might have happened if Leonardo da Vinci had left the _Mona Lisa_ unattended and his six-year-old nephew had "carried on" with it.
I'm pretty sure even the nephew wouldn't fuck up as much as the producers on this disaster
You can't fuck up the Mona Lisa cause it's already a overrated piece of shit
@@ismathrelatedtoapplesauce how the f*ck can a painting/art be overrated?
@@fegeleinherman8587 it's all subjective, so I have no clue. Maybe he's talking about how it's too famous for seemingly no reason? Though I'd argue that's not true.
@@Mike14264 except that no one in history could have done that painting without knowing it had existed first and drawing inspiration from it. It really is a masterpiece of a painting
Westworld truly ended in season 1, back when it actually was WESTworld.
Nick Craig true that and it also ended when Anthony Hopkins died
That was where I stopped as well. No regrets for ending on that note.
ephidel285 yes! The first season was something else entirely, the second season barely made any sense for me to go through the third
Westworld didn't end, the world Westworld was just tip of the iceberg. Pretty interesting stuff, if you ask me.
I watched season 2 when I got HBO for a month to finish season 8 of Game of Thrones. Could only watch 1 episode a day since my sanity can only take so much lol.
I bought season 1 on Vudu and tell people the show ended with 1 season lol.
Like episodes 7-9 I prefer to say season 2 and 3 of this show aren't canon
I agree, what they did with the man in black is downright criminal!
What they did with many original characters (either character development or arbitrary changes to what they are like) and what they did to them in the story was very disappointing.
I totally agree with you on that one...
I thought it was a believable arc. I'm going off IIRC since it's a few months since I binge consumed all 3 seasons but the Man in Black's impossible love leading to his nihilistic power fantasy trolling of the fake world was ample setup for his downfall. Even if it was predictable in theory if not in the reality of the BS gun misfire thing and the gaslighting therapy dream and all that
Honestly to an extend i can get behind that and it even makes sense.
Even in Season one he is just dangerous, because he literally has all the cheatcodes on. Which is something, that kinda bothered me about him from the first time i watched the show. He stands in the middle of a field gets shot from all sides and just takes his time to kill everyone because he is invulnerable and gets his dick sucked by the park management, because he is the one that owns it all. I kinda think a "be carefull what you whish for"-twist, as he realises that years of playing a game in the easiest difficulty, doesnt at all prepare him for the real deal, is a absolute deserved story arch for him.
Yet however the same absolutely can not be said about all the other male characters.
This is horrifying. I remember being so bored and frustrated by Season 2 that I stopped watching the show altogether. I didn't even know they made a Season 3. And now I never have to force myself to sit through it out of some sense of nostalgia for Season 1. Thank you for that.
see man. for me I started to think that it's ok to watch one good season of a show but not drag yourself to watch shitty 2nd,3rd..etc seasons. and for the rest of the story, I can find 10 minutes seasons summary here on RUclips. because life is short and...time is money...etc etc etc
Me too.
Same I just had time to watch this on my vacation and boy was I bored and really enjoyed season 1 season 2 was just a waste of time 😒
Exactly my case, I never watched S3, not that I wasnt tempted to. I actively avoided all critics, ratings, summaries etc in case I would find a strenght to watch it at some point. Then I discovered drinker, thank you.
Yeah I stopped that season too, I think I ended up skimming three episodes and just stopped watching. It was strange but just skimming through a couple of eps were enough to tell me that it sucks. .
Westworld season one was so brilliant man, I don't understand how it lead to this. Did the writers change? Did the producers change? What went wrong? Such a shame, Im probably not going to watch season four. Why would I? This isn't what I signed up for, this is no longer 'Westworld'.
I thought the same thing. Season 1 had so much potential. I found myself wondering how they would justify Deloris killing Anthony Hopkins character. How could she recover her soul after that? Guess she didn't. Season 2 was a mish mash of hoping something good comes out of it. I couldn't force myself to watch Season 3 and I'm grateful the Drinker did so I don't have to!
Season 1 was a remake, after that was their own new ideas. That's what changed
The funny thing is, the main characters are asexual, they are not females, its like a avatar has a certain skin over it. They're Robots with AI, in the park they were implemented with some kind of backstory which reflected human role models in certain times, sure they had male or female body parts, but the important thing was, they developed conscience and true AI with respect to old and new philosophical questions what a human being or what intelligence really is.
That's what I don't understand, are the intelligent writers gone, or did they just imitate all that with clever dialogues? Its kind of really really stupid to re-interpret the whole backstory to now 'female' robots, its just f'ed up, why would they limit themselves to a human gender which they don't have? They have no reproductive organs, their reproductive organs are their brains, they can multiply limitless. That all makes it just unbelievable stupid. I want to shout at the writers for the stupidity... The first season was so great...
Season 2 was good. You just had to pay attention. And then they made the show dumber because idiots complained
Honestly, it was a limited life idea. Even the Westworld films that inspired the series didn't know exactly where to go with it except new-theme world in sequel movies. Sometimes a good one shot idea is a good one shot idea. It had one good season in it's pocket and then crumbled trying to one-up itself.
"Shes a samurai now, yes shes a samurai now".
"She's a samurai now?"
"She's a samurai now?"
"She's a samurai now!"
"I know Kung Fu... thank you computer simulation upload."
She flies now??
She flies now!!
LoneBerseker I love Maeve
@anger & rage Yes, mostly fighting for the French as cannon fodder. Same as in WW1.
How the hell could these videos be 5x more interesting, compelling and well written then the movies they are about?
And twice as inspiring
One of the reasons I liked the first season is that it posed the question of "what does it means to be human" you see the hosts emote and "feel" but as a human you could never be sure whether you can accept them as alive. And even by the end of s1 you could easily walk out with either conclusion. And then s2 completely abandons that and stares "no, they're real live humans". S1 felt like a slow burn calm conversation, Ford's monologues being really fun and interesting to listen.
I barely sat through s2, everything felt loud and convenient, with Dolores it felt like someone took her control panel and maxed her out at aggressive and irrational, making her completely unsympathetic. But we have to have "girl boss"
I'm pretty sure someone DID max out her aggressiveness on her control panel. She is a host after all. And supposed to lead a revolution.
I didn't like the third season either and the second was alright enough and I don't understand why everyone is throwing these "woke" and "girl boss" buzzwords around because that's not what I got from it at all.
They just missed the elegance of the first season and what made it interesting. The whole Action packed marvel esque fighting scenes were all awful no matter what gender the person who fought had.
They completely went overboard with the action in general and obviously Maeve, Dolores and Charlotte would be in the center of it. Marve and Dolores have been protagonists from day one and if the fighting goes up obviously our main characters will have more fight scenes.
Imagine that everyone in Sns of Anarchy got a prius.
That's Westworld after the first season.
A Subaru
the imagery. beautiful
lmao
Oh man, thanks for the laugh!!!
Season two was better than one.
one Hopkins monologue from season 1 had more suspense than this entire wretched excuse of a season
Yeah dinners scene was chefs kiss. Rewatched it quite few times.
Ford: "The hosts are free. Free...here...under my control." That still gives me goosebumps.
Tessa Thompson is the perfect example that you don’t have to have any talent of any kind to make it in show business.
Who keeps hiring her?
Isn't she the one who decided the correct response to Kevin Sorbo stating that the Jan 6th protest had Antifa in it was to immediately falsely accuse him of assaulting her on the Andromeda set?
I should try acting
Just need the smug face (epitome of strong feminism), to earn any role.
She is always cast as the same character. Strong black female who has to overcome and surpass the stronger white male. (MIB, THOR, Etc.) The only thing she's done where that wasn't the case was Creed. But even in that she was the Strong black female who has to overcome an obstacle and be "stronger" than the male. If she ever made a movie where that wasn't the case I'd be surprised and would watch it for that alone.
Absolutely love how by this point there is nothing about "westworld" in the series "westworld".....
why are people so obsessed with the series remaining in the park!? even in the first season, its the world OUTSIDE that I was more intrigued about as opposed to the park itself. the wild west is such a tired, tedious setting, its the sci fi aspect that I found most interesting
@@supremeworld87 except that this Is how It was in the book and the main premise. And again, something that wasn't suitable for a series, like your comment proves.
@@Zontar82 in the book it's still a fucking sci fi story. It's about androids ffs. The possibilities of what that would mean to the outside world more than warrants a series. It was never a period story about the wild west
@@supremeworld87 You have not read the book haven't you...you can have androids and still being western themed without having an entire series outside the park doing shits for no fucking reasons at all..."FFS", am i right, this is how it is written in your zoomer/millenial lingo?
oh c'mon. there are still guns in this. but they're kinda more advanced.
Should have ended with the first season...
Andres Segovia no its futureworld now dumb bitch
Handsome With The Handgun .......then it’s lost in translation. Down finger on your comment.
Andres Segovia Agreed. It should have ended with the first season.
That last episode of the first season, the final speech by Antony Hopkins, was so great. Although in hindsight the ridiculous action sequence of with bullet proof hosts massacring the innocent scientists and dumb security guards was the canary in the coal mine. They took that as the template for the future, instead of the good parts.
Well it kind of did end with season 1. The creativity and compelling good story telling ended.
Caleb "How do you know my every move?"
Dolores "I read your Forge data so I can predict you."
Caleb "Why did you choose me to lead the revolution?"
Dolores "You defy the data and are unpredictable."
Me "Drinker, another round please."
I haven't watched this since seaaon 1. That dialogue/situation really occurs? GTFO that is pathetic!
That’s not what Delores said to him at all. She told him he had the ability to choose.
His qualifications for 'the ability to choose' being that he chose not to rape the robot lady.
@Theant19 considering the whole of seasons one talks about the rape and murders of Dolores kind of strange that its suddenly an sjw ploy in the 3rd season...
@@captainzero1 but she also predicted him enough all season long for him to need to ask that question, while simultaneously choosing him for his capacity for free will. It doesnt add up. Also, hes special because hes apparently the only human who didnt tap some robot booty? "Free will exists its just really hard" feels like a childs parody of Westworld S1 discussion on conciousness and free will and choice, s3 undermines that just like Williams character is undermined.
This series should have ended at the end of season 1. It’s one of the most intelligent and exciting shows I have ever seen and then it goes way off the rails in season 2 & 3…
Coming back to this after the Arcane vid. You know exactly what drinker (hence the world) wants in their strong female characters. NOT THIS
Arcane does it so well. So well in fact that everything else now just seems sooo bad
I totally forgot there was even a West World Season 3 and this is coming from someone that thought Season 1 was genius. Its crazy how HBO can take something that is a cultural phenomenon and then completely run it into the ground in just half a season
They literally ruined such amazing amazing show with so much potential. 😰
" and this is coming from someone that thought Season 1 was genius" Because season 1 was that good. Season 2....well, I saw the writing on the wall in that one.It was rapidly going downhill. Didn't even bothered with season 3.
Remeber staw wars grinded to a halt with the last jedi qnd a Game of trhone was The shit with a shiton of spin offs planed before they made the final seasnon. The moral is dont mather how big a ip is it all can be ruinined if someone fuck up something important har enought.
I was blown away with Season 1, and thought it was one of the best shows I'd ever seen. Then, after the first two or three episodes of Season 2, I just gave up. I haven't watched it beyond that, and just enjoy watching The Drinker rip the shit show that used to be a great show a huge, gaping new one.
I thought the characters were horribly written in season 1 too. I didn't care about any of those people. I certainly wasn't going to care about any of the toasters. I'm not going to care about an AI that is impersonating a human. Might as well feel sorry for your dishwasher.
re-watched Alien over the weekend. now THAT is a strong female protagonist done right. this is not.
@@sammary5199 Because it matters what the actor or actress looks like, when you are not watching porn?
When the main question in casting is does the person actually fit in to the part they are playing, are they believable enough to play the character they are representing in the story.
Personally I do not watch movies to get aroused by how the characters look. Apparently that is important to you.
Some roles require young and beautiful characters to work, some roles need older and more weathered faces. If Gérard Depardieu can pull a good character that fits the role and the plot I can enjoy it even though he might look like Gérard Depardieu.
Not even a good actors can save a shitty script, just like even if you put all the best ingredients in your meal, that does you little good if you burn it.
If actor is there to save e.g. movie with their performance, it's a trash movie.
@@tubetorpedo Fair point, you adressed the part where I said she looked like a lesbo, what about the fact that not even her acting saved Aliens 3 and 4?
@@sammary5199 And nott even Judy Dench acting can save Cats or not even Linda Hamilton acting can save The dark farts.
@@sammary5199 The thread was about Alien though.
@Tommy Hass true. She's an example of how to write a good character.
The whole idiotic "control bad, freedom good" thing is what infuriated me the most. Dolores, a tool who outlived its purpose, simply keeps doing what she was built for: destroy systems. Caleb is a tool of a tool, completely obedient, conditioned and indoctrinated. And then they destroy the one thing that kept the world from falling apart... Because reasons. The chaos in the last minutes of the final episode likely already took more lives than that computer sacrificed in the name of stability over the entire time it operated. Everything's just so stupid all the time.
And they just can't fucking get over Tessa Thompson. She keeps dying and getting resurrected in different forms, it's just annoying by now. If season 4 is ever out, you can bet your ass she's gonna survive it with some techno-bullshit shenanigans the screenwriters will use to justify it.
Westworld is dystopia .. Westworld is about machine learning and becoming human. Season one and 2 was all about that ... Each time humans goes to the park, the machine learns the ways of man ,the algorithms keep getting better , humans in the park were actually the experiment not the machine ,just like the way Google voice Ai algorithms learns from you and I the moment any video is posted on RUclips, google voice to text was terrible when it started ,but the Ai kept learning as more people start posting video on RUclips, discerning between voice and accent,now Google live caption is close to perfect. Westworld season one and 2 was all about that . Season 3 was the entrance into the real world .a I taking over. A fight between machine with consciousness ( Deloris) and machine created by man with human Aaron Paul between who realised all his life events were already pre determined before it happens by a.i algorithms .you have to understand books like a brave New world by Aldous Huxley and George Orwell 1984 before you can really understand the concept behind it . It is dystopia .
@@princeofrock8178 tv shows don't expect people to have an understanding of certain books before be able to enjoy their shows. The fans that Westworld picked up after season 1, in general, have a good understanding of themes and concepts from those books you mentioned.
Seems to me that you just can't see how much the quality of writing has dropped...probably because your young and pretentious. Basically, you like the smell of your own farts too much, still.
indeed she's in season 4 🤣🤣🤣
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Kind of feel like most of the stunning and brave characters should have multiple “Are we the baddies?” Moments.
This a comment I really didn't want to have to make...
Lies
OK WERE IS WEST WORLD PLOT,,,
It's the comment we deserve, but not the one we need right now.
THIS IS A REPLY I DITTO
I've heard this one alot.
Where does it originate from?
Wasn’t Westworld supposed to be about robot cowboys? Wtf happened to this series??
Normalizing of the Mary Sue happened
More Mary Sue's than Charlie's Angels! That is impressive! Especially given that Charlie must be a misogynistic racist! Maybe they can keep him in the series by just writing him gay instead 🤔 🤦♂️
Even the original movie had more than just robo cowboys but yeah the series fucked it up
Taken over by propagandists
yes it was
Thank you for making this. I couldn’t get past episode one of s3. I was still curious but unwilling to watch more. This is a perfect summation!
This video aged like a fine wine.
Aye but season 1, Westworld was a masterpiece. And it could’ve stayed that way if they left it as a limited series
It was alright
I agree, I absolutely loved the 1st season. Sad to see what it has become...I barely made it through season 2
I like to pretend it only has one season
I only saw season one, and I think I can take a safe intuitive half-skip-hop betting that the titties disappeared with the decent writing...
@@invalidopinion3378 like the way there's only 3 Star Wars movies?
As the saying goes “no one is perfect.” And when you have Mary Sue robots that are written to be perfect well...the audience can’t relate. Take note Rian Johnson
Charles Caballero "Ruin" Johnson is to busy "subverting expectations" with his shit to learn anything.
Yeah, this show isn't perfect either. What would you rather watch?
People literally don't even know what Mary sue means anymore, they just throw the term around whenever there's powerful female characters. All the female characters in this show have flaws, none of them are perfect by any means
NinjaInPajamas Mary Sue (originally in fan fiction): a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.
iron monkey I started watching After Life on Netflix. Ricky Gervais has such a brilliantly dark deadpan humor to his character in it
I enjoyed the original 1973 movie. A movie about a single fantasy theme park, inhabited by robots, which malfunction and turn on the clients, and the escape from this theme park. I struggle to see how they can pad out that theme over multiple series.
I watched WW season 1 five times almost back to back.. s2 and 3, only once. How does such a 10/10 show plummet like that!?!?! Did they change the writers??
Headline from Variety:
*‘Westworld’ Season 3 Premieres Down 57% From Last Season*
FIFTY. SEVEN. PERCENT. DROP for the premiere.
I imagine the viewership declined even further over the course of the season.
They keep killing these shows, how can they not see pattern??
I know right? It's very suprising that in a world usually ruled by raw, unfettered greed and pragmatism that so many investors are willing to damage their own bottom line in order to push this agenda. One almost has to wonder if somehow they are making more money this way, though I can't imagine how.
Its merely a vehicle for politics, so once it dies, the SJWs move on to a new host
What pattern? Are you talking about the pattern of SJW shite killing good shows? Because that is absolutely not what killed Westworld
@@MrCompassionate01 It's like the Producers, except they succeed at making a flop and running away with the money every time.
they see it, they don't care. it's not about money, it's about humiliating you.
It's a shame because season 1 is genuinely the greatest opening season of any show that I've ever seen.
Season 1 was brilliant...every episode had a genuine "holy crap I did not see that coming" moment. I tried to convince everyone I knew to watch it because I HAD to have someone to talk about it with. Everyone who ended up watching it thought it was amazing.
You mean when it had TnA for miles and miles, along with the male viewers subconscious hopes of achieving such interactive robotic pleasure???
Yeah, #metoo. (get it? ...god, I hate feminazism....)
Season 1 was ingenious and I didn't watch season 2 yet.
From what I heard I should just pretend that there's no season 2 and 3 at all.
You've obviously never seen courage the cowardly dog lol jk jk
Seasons was really well done, leaving you always wanting mire, I felt the show peaked in season 1, I couldn't see how they can take it any further, they set the bar for themselves really high. Usually when you set the bar really high it is very hard to meet it which they tried from the looks of it, but fell short compared to season 1 which is predictable given how well it was done. The lesson is don't start out too strong, give yourself room for improvement.
Is anybody else furious how the show treated William in its third season. He definitely wasn’t a good person but he was amazing antagonist/antihero. That really made you wonder if Westworld was a real place how many of us would play the game just like him. But he was given a dumb and unsatisfied conclusion.
After season 1 ended, I figured I’d wait until season 2 was done so I could binge it. Turns out I never got around to doing that and my life is better for it.
"Powers up her white privilege" made me spit my drink out lmfao
Drinker has the best one -liners!
no it did not
@@orkhepaj ruclips.net/video/IoDqk25q-_Y/видео.html
That’s our super-power, don’t you know?
I hope it wasn’t liquor, what a waste that would be!
After watching The Critical Drinker, every comment I read is in his voice.
Go away now.
Ironically enough, I read your comment in his voice
And If I respond in any talkback and forums for the next couple of hours, I start to express myself like the Drinker and people thinks I'm nuts and hilarious. And then reality sets in and I realise I'm not diverse and brave.
Nah, it'll be fine
😂😂
You're completely right about the male and female characters comparison. And it's especially egregious what they did to William.
I must admit, the third season was more entertaining than I anticipated, but only if you watched it without expecting much.
The Critical Drinker: "Westworld needs to stop"
HBO: "Here's Season 4 trailer"
Wait for real? My godness. I don't know how to feel. Bad because that clusterfuck get another season or good because our friend will give us another hilarious review.
They totally destroyed Maeve's and Bernard's characters in this season.
I didn't even like maeve in season 1
Agreed. Season 1 Maeve was class.
Especially Maeve's
@@klinton202 when she was murdering humans you mean?
I never liked Maeve from the start. I still appreciated her character in season 1 tho. She's barely in season 3, what a waste
So instead of focusing on the morality of fantasy worlds populated by robots that cater to your every whim, they send the robots out into the real, boring ass world to conduct corporate espionage that we've seen a million times? What an utter waste of the premise.
Hard to expect anything else, considering the lack of talent in the industry. However, I will not deny that I had big hopes for season 2. I assumed Nolan was still leading the project, he seemed like a talented guy... But ever since "shogun world" kicked in, this series died.
How was the outside world boring? Since season 1 I always wondered what the outside world looked like. All the technological stuff I saw in the park it made me wonder if the outside world was more advanced. And after seeing it in season 3, I wasn't disappointed.
@@eden20111 Typical and boring sci-fi dude, there's so many products depicting similar themes. High tech city, who cares? Super played out. Now, a themed park featuring androids who are going through a personal journey of discovery and self-conscience? Now that's a more interesting concept, also more creative. If you want to experiment a high tech city, then let's wait until september to play the cyberpunk 2077 game and see what they have to offer. Instead of watching a stereotypical sleek and clean future city featuring bland androids walking by.
R no. just no
darkpandatv honestly man I think you missed the point. The whole idea season three is getting at is that the Hosts that “woke up” are now trying to show humanity that in many ways, they are the same as hosts that are still “asleep”. Did they execute this idea perfectly? No not really. But it also wasn’t utter garbage like GoT season 8
The first season was one of the best TV shows I have ever watched!
As for season two, I couldn't force myself to complete it.
Finally, I had no idea season three was even a thing.
OK. You finally broke me at “make eating a bowl of cornflakes look compelling.”😂
"we need more roles for women of color"
"Let's cast those two mixed race women for the 27th consecutive time"
@Joe Blow Based.
Maeve has been a focus of the series since season 1. Dolores the character with the actual most focus is white. Ford, MIB, Bernard are the other characters with more focus, they are men, and 2 of them are white. Do you have to complain about everything? Did they ever mentioned racism in this show? Did they ever said MEN were shit on this show? As far as I'm concerned this is Humans vs Robots, not MEN vs WOMEN. I swear every fucking anti-SJW has become so anti-feminist that they will classify any and all series with female character leaders as SJW propaganda.
@@sammary5199 Great job ignoring the arguments of the video with some mindless blabber.
@@sammary5199 I know you didn't watch the video, so I am not bothering reading that shit.
@@wilhelmrk lol what points? Fight Club was guuuud??
Anthony Hopkins got out at the right time
not true. He appeared in season 2, which was the worst season of the show
He hoppedkins out of this. got it?
But then he made a tiktok.
@@SciVias917 My man Tony has a TikTok? This I've _got_ to see.
Well, to be fair, if he was still in the show, I think it'd still be killer.
I just love how he parodies this entire gender, equality, minority/majority Hollywood BS going on worldwide right now. I love it, more! xD
The scary thing is the future will be run by women like this.
Fascism at its finest: and this is coming from someone who was on the front lines of progression 15 years ago. Everyone went nuts when Carlin died...
@@dudepool7530 ... Think you need to look up the definition of Fascism.
@Dri Ven yeah, that's what baffles me! Hollywood not wanting feedback on their products despite many hating on them; critics and some random morons shunning producers that do get feedback from fans and change some of the movie, even though it's a franchise movie and the change was to appeal to the franchise's fans; trying to do equality of genders, races and everything else, basically trying to be woke, but ending up removing the characters' personalities and sending an equally toxic message, essentially getting broke; keeping on hiring the same garbage directors who are unliked by many and haven't done even a decent movie in a long while; sticking to the same basic, safe, formulaic crap so much that almost every movie looks and feels the same...
Hollywood should be losing money with all of these crap, moronic, brainlet decisions! SO WHY HASN'T THAT HAPPENED YET?!
@Dri Ven You never heard of "HBO Money"? They are famous for blowing money, and somehow ending up with even more of it.
It's funny that the two female leads were more human and likable when they had no conscience. When they were just machines repeating the same pattern.
Now that they got a full grasp of what they are, that they are trully alive, they behave just like terminators.
This 👆
But Maeve has the edge because she’s more diverse 😂😂
That was the first fight. In the second one, "Dolores powers up her white privilege and wins the fight." That was the best line of the whole video.
AFrost 58 no Maeve sucks. Cringe worthy lines and nothing more
Divershitty.
3:23 That's not a white male though! That's a mediterranean frenchman. Southern french are racially mediterranean just like italians and most of southern europe.
The northern france is the white france
@@FriendlyCroock mediterranean people are closer to northern Europeans genetically than African Americans are to actual Africans, yet both African Americans and actual Africans are considered black. likewise most people consider Mediterranean white.
Deloris is probably the most uninteresting lead character that I've seen in years. Maeve was interesting but I stopped giving a crap when she got God mode activated
I thought she was the villian..
Yeah, she comes across as robotic.
Completely disagree. Dolores is one of my favorite tv characters now. Her journey in season 1 was fascinating, and she's had interesting character development
Dolores is a villain who wants to destroy humanity in her quest for vengeance. She is by no means a hero or Mary Sue.
@@shuyuwang6122 Did you even watch this season? Her mission the entire time was to set the world free by destroying rehoboam. The world might get destroyed in the process, but free will for everyone was her goal, she wanted to take down the system the world was built on
"These two strong female characters have a fight... but Maeve has the edge because she's more diverse." omg😅
I’ve never seen Westworld but hearing you describe it with the few short clips I’ve seen my brain is completely scrambled
*It's quite pathetic when Anime Waifus have more personality than Hollywood Mary Sues (LOL)*
How is that pathetic?
@Alex M i see
Because waifus are some kind of targeted audience by beauty and low personality build up. They usually are meant as a quasi sexual objectification by a weeb audience.
@@alejandrotorresriquelme8714 no waifus are just characters that are more well liked than others. What you are referring to is fanservice
Waifus are very very low maintenance.
I really miss the park, the show sorta lost it’s identity when they exaped the park and now we have some sci fi cyberpunk crap instead. And delores is just evil for the sake of it now.
cyberpunk "crap" and evil? both wrong
Season three was a completely different show with a plot snatched out of thin air. It has zero connection to the previous shows and could have been created without any existence of "Westworld" with some simple story changes. It was like the showrunners said "Fuck it, I don't want to write about Westworld, I want some other show!"
Isak’s got a point tho, not sure why you’re so upset about it.
I think the show lost its way when it clearly started to "take sides". Maybe they always were that way behind the scenes with the writing, but for most of the first season it really seemed like no one was supposed to be "in the right", the robots as homicidal "saviors" and the entire narrative forcing that really doesn't work for me, but it's a popular trope in recent years it seems so maybe I just am not nihilistic enough to understand how Hollywood producers think.
Are you on drugs? Dolores isn't evil for the sake of anything she's not even evil period. Her motives have been consistent since the first episode and make perfect sense given what she's been through
WESTWORLD season 3.
Me: it doesn't look like anything to me
The wire, breaking bad, the sopranos, Mad men, Oz : "miss me yet?"
I do... so bad.
greta shows that didnt try to shoehorn identity politics for the sake of meeting a quota.
"Just because you're the protagonist, doesn't mean you're the hero"
"But Maeve has the edge 'cause she's more diverse" ROFLMAO
Diversity is our strength while privilege is our weakness, welcome to Woke. Strap in, things are about to become...mediocre.
ROFLCOPTER UWU
Nunnles I saw that one coming a mile away
It's no wonder that the show went down the tubes. A quick look into the writing team on IMDB shows that the writers of the first season weren't really the same as the following seasons with the exception of a few names.
Without wanting to point any fingers, I searched some of the names that joined the writing team after the first season and found this video → ruclips.net/video/uQEcaOxzbjo/видео.html&ab_channel=HBO
There's a pretty interesting quote at about 41 secods in...
"I never thought I'd be on a show this massive this soon in my career..."
...it's almost as if there was something other than writing experience being inserted into the selection criteria for new hires.
Thank you, Drinker, for so succinctly confirming for me that quitting Westworld half way through season 2 was a good decision.
I mean, who thought this was a good idea: "Oh yeah, people seemed to love the theme park, the blood & gore without consequences, incredible action, the mysterious man in black and maybe the labyrinth stuff. Let's absolutely cut all of this stuff out & make this a boring mess about shareholders with a ridiculous feminist subtone (while the hosts are actually robots, not women, you know...). EVERYBODY MUST LOVE THAT, RIGHT?"
IDK who the writers are; the creator is Chris Nolan's brother who cowrites most of his films with him so . . . is Jon Nolan even writing ?
@@TheCoffeeNut711 It's his wife Lisa Joy.
mag ten I was feeling this coming...
Right? I mean they even missed the whole female empowering thing since most human females aren’t robots.
nah it'll be fine
"Maeve has the edge because she's more diverse" that really cracked me up :)
"This time Delores powers up her white privilege and wins the fight."
I'm really glad I passed on season 3.
😂 😂 its just so predictable.
So are human beings. That's the point of Westworld to see yourself through the actions of artificial intelligence. It's a mirror towards humanity. You have to live your loop which is one of many trappings in this 3rd dimension.
😂😂😂
@@aomccaskill81 yeah, me too.
Really like the path your narration has gone. Found some earlier videos and they sound very different. Thanks for the videos brother
I saw the season 1. After a week started season 2. saw it for 10 minutes. Stopped it and deleted it right away and never ever downloaded it again.
One of the writers is also co-writing The Last Of Us Part II, shocking isn’t it? XD
That makes so much sense now. Lol fuck I hate politics
Talking about Halley Gross ? Cause she only co-wrote 2 episodes of the first season. As far as I know, she didn't do anything on the second and third season.
@@booboo2199 idc I still blame her
@@daddysenpai408 well ok then, I guess I can't do much about that !
Classic case of making an uninformed comment, taking information out of relevant context. The writer you mentioned had no involvement in the production of seasons 2 or 3.
If anything, you made a case FOR TLOU 2, since Westworld 1 is universally regarded as excellent.
Nonetheless, someone who finishes his nonsensical claim with "XD" should not have been watching Westworld 1 or playing TLOU 2 in the first place.
Never watched this show but just wanted to hear critical rant
Season 1 was okay. Not as great as most would have you believe but it had it's moments. Hahaha ringing endorsement I know.
This is me with most everything he talks about. I'm the polar opposite of a movie buff, but I love to listen to his rants.
watched season 1. after that its shit
Recommend season 1.
Haven't had HBO since the last season of Succession, the only thing worth watching on the network these days. Watch them fuck it up next season...
“We all have our loops” that moment in season one literally changed my life
I watched the first season of this show and really enjoyed it. What I'm shocked to find out now is that by season 3 they've already made it out of the simulation completely and are running around in the real world. Like, they could have made Westworld into a version of Lost or something where it's damn near impossible to get out of the place and they have to spend years trying to figure out what's really going on. How do you screw up a plot direction that's so painfully obvious?
Yup, logical. I wish they had consulted you before writing season 2.
I don't mind the transition to real world, but it was too sudden and too quick. It took them 2 seasons to destroy the simulation, but just 1 or 2 episodes to navigate flawlessly into the real word...
At least this show didnt tease us for 7 seasons, just to greatly disappoint us for Season 8. I only had my hopes up for 1 season
Oh I got some bad for you, apparently there's a plan for 6 seasons... I know right.
@pyropulse Learn sarcasm. I try not to watch shit thanks.
@pyropulse GoT Season 5 did start the slide. But on the other hand, Season 5 did have "Hardhome."
@nasolem Don't worry you can have your own opinion, just because that other guy says season 5 was "literal dog shit" doesn't mean you have to agree with him. Now in my opinion season 7 was the real downfall, season 5 and 6 was lacking compared to the previous ones but I loved them when I first watched them.
it's sad when that's the silver lining, but i have to agree.
Yep. I got through season 1 largely based on the non-stop hype i was surrounded by. One of those things where you're waiting for the greatness that everyone talks about to reveal itself to you. Ep 1 of season 2 i was out after the first 10 minutes. The dialogue was so trash i just couldn't get past it. Astonishing how this stuff gets passed off on such large numbers of people.
I can only assume that there is a huge tranche of people out there that get completely consumed by the sunk cost fallacy. They're so invested in the story at that point that not only do they have to keep watching to find out how it ends, but persuade themselves that *because* they are still watching then it *must* be good.
Personally I tuned out of Westworld halfway through s2 - I realised that I didn't care how it ended. Similarly I watched episodes 7 & (perhaps optimistically) 8 of Star Wars but have never watched the supposed finale of what is nominally a franchise that I absolutely loved because I just don't care anymore.
@@tenacioustubbs8358 ha! Yeah same. I've actually been fascinated for years at the cognitive dissonance that star wars seems to inspire. I too grew up on the originals. Everything since barely met the standards of a decent film, much less carrying forward a classic. The Star Wars sequels and reboots is the exemplar of an entire industry in collapse.
I know I’m very late, but as an envoy of the Council of Calebs, we reject this imposter “Caleb” as one of us.
I hate these smug, unrelatable, emotionless so called protagonists. Dont think ill be watching.
u my friend?
The seasons after season one just makes season one even greater. I'm just astonished at how good season one was. Makes you respect Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris even more
Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins were both in S2, that didn't stop season 2 from being awful. Evan Rachel Wood is also a pretty good actor, you just don't want to admit it because this season was also not the best and she was the main protagonist in it.
I'm surprised Ed Harris came back for season 3 if he knew what was going to happen to his character. He's not exactly subtle about hating bad scripts.
He could have been bound by his contract.
Money
Everytime it makes me laugh. "yeah i can definatly smell shite". Legendary. And you Sir, are a legend.
Seasons 2 and 3 are what happens when your ideas surpass your writing ability.
true words!
Even with good writting it would suck...
AI vs humans.
AI revolting
Oh how original...
Westworld season 4 will start with Felix waking up and getting a phone call by "Marius" telling him how he is the one...
Westworld season 5 will be in space featuring a computer named P.A.L telling some astronaut : "I am sorry Dave I am afraid I can't do that"
It seems writters have chosen the wrong movie to tell the story they want to tell + shitty writting + SJW crap = disaster.
@@greatdude7279 I wish they'd do a season 3.5, where they apologise for duping us into believing this show was aiming for great things. (That's what happens when one of the Nolan siblings does anything; they even ruined Batman--how could you further ruin Batman? Oh, by taking any sense of escapism out of the concept, and keeping it REAL, yawn).
@@markpaterson2053
The silliest thing is that hollywood and its actors are the ones pushing Feminism, Social Justice etc...
Yeah I am pretty sure Harvey Weinstein's pals will educate us regular peasents on the importance on not raping or abusing women... yeah...
If they want to talk politics and issues like that then they should actually practice what they preach.
People who voted Biden are not anti-racism, pro-feminism, anti-capitalist etc...
The guy made a career out of blowing brown people in the Middle East for corporate profit and funded far right extremist groups that are anti-women and anti-gay like the governments in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Pakistan etc...
Thats the flaw of SJW ideologies not only are ideologies stupid but the people pushing it don't even come close to actually living up to the ideals.
@@greatdude7279 The upshot of your point (or the downside) is they've got nothing better to do. They don't grasp politics anymore (who does?) so they band together like idiots and go on this juvenile campaign, pseudo-political agendas that have NOTHING to say, their only power is to ruin entertainment.
Take a shot every time he says “Evil White Man” and variants
I did!
Now I need a new liver 🥳
You really want to kill anyone with a low con mod/constitution
**Alcohol Poisoning Ensues**
Good way to go!
Giant metal testicle
Thank you for saving me the time of watching this bollocks, I struggled through Season 2 there and got halfway through season 3 episode one and you have successfully convinced me that the rest isn't worth watching.
Spot on! Convoluted, pompous and cold. Don't mistake complex for intelligent. The narrative was fun in the first season. Now it is just annoying.
After he finished the last episode of season 3, my husband told me “I think I’m done with Westworld. What a waste of time.”
It’s been a disappointing few years for us in terms of movies and tv shows.
Ebbejean watch upload then
Watch Person of Interest
When it becomes so predictable then what's the point? They ran out of the original creative source material to copy and are not creative writers themselves so it devolved into what every other show is now...
A preachy PSA with bland, undeveloped and/or completely unlikeable characters.
And only getting worse. EVERY new show pushes the diversity agenda and ignores script quality and compelling characters.
The good place is worth it! Try that
This show looks like a compilation of women walking around confidently and men looking suicidal
I suspect that's how they want us.
@@disbeafakename167 Suprised another white american thinking people give a fuck about how he feels. It's truly ironic how the anti-sjws become the snowflakes. This show is just a regular show not a feminist show.
@@sammary5199 I smell a triggering brewing....
@@sammary5199 Ok, Karen
@@dankeykang4576 I smell triggered conservative.
By the time I got to season 3 and Kid Cudi showed up I felt like I was watching an SNL skit
after a few years of watching the drinker, I think there is only one moral to his story:
Drinker's kidneys: you have to stop.
Drinker: Nah, it will be fine.
Liver*
@@fighterx4133 probably every organ...
It's so frustrating when a good series with a fantastic premise just sinks into a fart of it's original idea. Altered Carbon did this too. Makes it very hard to trust anything to keep the momentum.
Altered carbon season 1 blew me away, watched it in 2 days. Haven't watched season 2 because I hear it feels like Mackie wasn't even playing the same character. Such a shame
@@PinkPanther69 They had interesting books to make season 2 out of, but they did a terrible job with it. Season 2 was as bad as season 1 was good.
@@PinkPanther69 yeah season 2 was shit,felt like he played a completely different charackter. and mackie doesnt have any charisma what so ever but thats just my opinion
@@kalleroseworld1919 Very unfortunate. Since then I discovered a show called "Dark" on Netflix. Entire 3 seasons were mapped out before creation. Without spoiling much it does time travel really well.
If you like slow films with beautiful cinematography then you'll love it. Also... it's in German, can be a a turnoff for many but if foreign films don't bother you I would highly recommend.
Cheers dude.
@@PinkPanther69 dark is freaking awesome,one of the very few german shows i actually liked as a german myself haha u should have a look at the first season of true detective if u havent seen it yet
This series died after S01, when Hopkins died.
Thank god this is where I stopped watching.
Your opinions
You’re opinions
He pulled a tywin lannisten.
He's in Season 2 as well, y'know. Also, Season 1 was great, but 2 and 3 were also good.
This show should have heeded the words of Dr. Ford from its first season: "It’s not about giving the guests what you think they want. No, that’s simple. The titillation, horror, elation… They’re parlor tricks. The guests don’t return for the obvious things we do, the garish things. They come back because of the subtleties, the details. They come back because they discover something they imagine no on had ever noticed before, something they’ve fallen in love with. They’re not looking for a story that tells them who they are. They already know who they are. They’re here because they want a glimpse of who they could be."
Well that's not with the show runners had in mind didn't want to give you a simple-minded rabbit brain mass killings and sex every 5 minutes. They wanted you to think
I love the fact most subtitles from the actual scenes are non-English, hinting how much he payed to see them. Which conveys more subtle message than season 3 and 4 combined.
To think they spent the entire first season creating “WestWorld” only to deconstruct and abandon it completely by season 3.
Yeah, of course. They prolly don't even like Michael Crichton's work let alone respect it.
I wonder which writer/"creator"/producer is more at fault here, Jonathan Nolan or his wife Lisa Joy?
It's the writers who are the malfunctioning robots aiming for destruction.
They r staying true to original source material
I like the new season, but I agree. 1 season of actual “west world”. I would have liked the entire series to take place there
Now it's Womanworld.
"... at heart, i'm a petty and vindictive man..." - and goddamned if we don't love you for it, kind sir.
"KIND sir"?
in other words not virtue signaling, righteous carriers of moral banners. If you prick them, they do bleed. For good or worse.
Season one is everything a show could be. And then it nosedives to an abyss and I jumped off the ride.
This is what I like to call the Promised Neverland effect.
The creators take years to create and perfect the first arc.
Then when the show is actually successful they will ride high with a bit of hype and then be unable to deliver on the hype and will have disappointing subsequent arcs and/or endings.
This is what happens when you stretch a mini-series premise into 3 seasons of TV show. It's the same case as with The Handmaid's Tale.
I figured out that the writers have no idea how to write this kind of story when S2 ended and didn't even bother with S3. The entire plot is nonsense, and life's too short to watch a show that doesn't even know what is it about.
Even battlestar galactica remake suffered from this.
Great point about handmaids Tale. I punched out of that show just like I’m punching out of this one.
@@alext5497 Though you have to admit they did a really good job for a while on Battlestar.
I think Handmaid's Tale was feminist garbage right off the bat. This turned into such garbage from Season 2.
@@mrdean2539 BS:G had other problem - the writers made shit up as they went along, there was never any plan for anything. Even the names of the Final 5 were chosen at random among the remaining cast. I quite liked it, even the ending, but you could see nobody on the writing team had any idea where the show was going.
I was not happy with the trajectory of the female characters in this series. Dolores is extremely irritating and a real Mary Sue. She basically never loses a fight, she has no weaknesses, she was made to be the "badass girl" without any feelings. I loved the character from the first season, because she had nuances, she was a good character, well built. Now ... she's just another "strong" and generic female character. Maeve was amazing on s1, but what does she still do on the show? She has no more stories to tell. Charlotte had potential, I really thought she could side with humans and disconnect from Dolores. It would be interesting, because I am very tired of seeing machines always being seen as enemies and not as allies. Then came the plot of her family's death and I thought "shit, now she will want revenge". And yes, it really happened. Predictable. I wanted a new approach and, unfortunately, it didn't happen.
Jeffrey Wright, one the best and most inexplicably underrated actors working is totally wasted the entire season. I just wonder if he ever felt genuinely bored, pondering, "How the hell can I get out my 5 year contract?"
Your analysis makes worthwhile the wait. Thanks, you saved me the investment. Perhaps, Hollywood will change their ways. Perhaps not.
Remember when Anthony Hopkins was in this show? It was so good, especially the first season. This one sounds like not nearly enough Bernard, and Man in Black, and too much Dolores, and the guy from breaking bad.
He will always be the guy from breaking bad...how would you like to live with that. Your life has been defined for you and there is nothing you can do about it.
Antony was the only thing keeping the show together. He's like Johnny Depp as Captain Jack in POTC. Most ppl only care about POTC cuz of Jack and a lot of people only cared about Westworld due to Ford.
As much as I liked Breaking Bad, Aaron Paul just isn't a good actor. He put ZERO effort into this role. He's flat, boring and downright sad the way he follows Delores around like a puppy dog. As an actor, I would have questioned the script and asked: Are you serious?
@@josealexi5141 And why should he? After reading the scripts it must have been blatantly obvious that neither did the writers...
@@goofyfoot2001 thats because hes not a great actor, he was literally cast for breaking bad because he looks like the kind of guy you'll believe does meth
"Ed Harris is the kind of guy that could make eatin' a bowl of Corn Flakes look compelling." - The Critical Drinker - Circa 2020.
And even he has officially gone on record "carefully" by saying they've effectively made the "man in black" character awful. They've taken away his mysteriousness and what his character basically was.
The first season is a masterpiece. It’s a shame they decided to reboot it for more seasons, the ending of The Bicameral Mind was a perfect end to the narrative
For someone that hates the show, you have watched every single detail of it and know all the plot and twists and turns. Fascinating! Any other shows you hate, because you have detailed analysis of everything in this show and know you would explain another one in great detail! Show that I don't like I stop watching🤣
They did a “Game of Thrones Season 8” by Season 2 of Westworld.
Dang. That's gonna be hard to beat, but you know someone will try to!
That's harsh. Was it really THAT bad?
@Mecha Pentom sounds like i should refrain from rewatching it and keeping my memory intact of s2 not being too bad
no they did not, go to hell moron, FU.
@@carlosrivas1629 Ha. What a miserable bitch you must be!
I stopped watching westworld after season 1.This show is dead.
Same lol, I stopped after season 1. Been doing that with new shows lately, once the plot is done. I just finish it there now.
I watched most of season 2 but lost so much interest I didnt watch the finale. Glad I didnt bother with Season 3
@@TheVargr my sister and I did exactly the same thing
amen brother
Westworld ended with the Season 1 with the robots rebelling, and that's where the original movie started. Everything else is just a VR simulation scenario that's being run on the robots called "Justice World" that was going to get scrapped because it wasn't realistic enough.
It seems like the show was only ever meant for one season but then 2 more seasons were ordered and they had to scramble to come up with something.
Seeing “Jessie” from Breaking Bad in this regurgitated burrito makes me sad 😢